The Brentwood Beginners Workshop in Los Angeles, CA
Now,
let's
welcome
our
speaker,
Gloria
A.
What
an
order.
Oh
my
gosh.
Good
evening.
My
name
is
Gloria
and
I
am
an
alcoholic.
Steps
to
come
up
here.
Thank
you,
Melanie
for
asking
me
to
come
out
and
share.
And
I
was
telling
Beverly
before
this
meeting,
Last
time
I
spoke
here
was
about
14
years
ago.
And
I've
always
been
very
grateful
to
this
meeting
because
I
got
a
raise
from
my
job
because
of
this
meeting.
I
had
come
dressed
up
to
work
and
my
boss
was
so
concerned
I
was
interviewing.
She
pushed
through
a
raise
for
me.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I
do
not
expect
the
same
thing
this
time.
So
anyway,
my
sobriety
date
is
May
29th,
1985.
I
have
a
sponsor
that
I
use
as
a
sponsor.
I
have
a
Home
group,
which
is
a
women's
group
on
Monday
night
in
Chatsworth.
And
I
know
in
my
next
meeting
is
and
all
those
four
things
are
not
what
keep
me
sober.
But
what
they
do
is
they
keep
me
here
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
one
day
at
a
time
so
that
I
can
hear
about
the
12
steps
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
That
if
I
work
them
and
apply
them
in
my
life,
I
will
find
and
have
found
a
power
greater
than
myself
that
allows
me
to
stay
sober
a
day
at
a
time.
And
so
just
a
kind
of
brief
qualification,
I
never
met
a
social
drink.
I
was,
I
was
the
daily
drinker
by
the
time
I
was
19
years
old.
I
came
from
a
family
that
drank
a
lot.
And
that's
not
what
makes
me
an
alcohol.
Like,
what
makes
me
an
alcoholic
is
when
I
pick
up
a
drink,
I
drink
and
I
drink
until
it's
done.
You
know,
I
drink
until
I'm
done.
And,
and
I
never
really
thought,
I
never
tried
to
control
my
drinking.
I
got
here
at
the
age
of
28
years
old
and
I
thought
I
was
too
young
to
be
here.
My
last
year
of
drinking
was
pretty
much
like
it
started.
I
was
living
in
a
little
apartment
in
North
Hollywood.
A
man
that
I
had,
I
would
have
died
for,
you
know,
love
of
my
life
that
we
had
had
a
secret
relationship
for
a
year
and
a
half.
Because
you
see,
I'm
the
kind
of
woman
who
will
sell
myself
to
the
lowest
bidder.
Finally
decided
that
that
he
didn't
want
to
be
with
me
anymore
because
he's,
what
the
book
talks
about,
is
a
hard
drinker.
We
got
together
and
we
drank
alike.
He
was
my
soul
mate.
We
got
together
because
we
would
go
out
after
work
and
he'd
tell
me
a
sad
little
story
about
his
office.
Awful
little
marriage.
And
I
would
be,
I
mean,
it's
so
straight
out
of
the
big
book.
I'm
so
sad
and
pathetic,
you
know,
and
I
was
commiserating
and
understanding.
And
So
what
happened
though,
he
left
that
marriage
and
we
kind
of
moved
in
together.
But
you
see,
he
wasn't
an
alcoholic.
So
what
used
to
drink
alike
together?
What
happened
was
that
once
we
moved
in
together,
he
he
stopped
because
he
drank
because
he
was
unhappy
in
that
marriage.
And
once
he
got
out
of
that
marriage,
he
did
not
have
the
physical
disease
of
alcoholism.
So
he
didn't
have
to
drink
anymore.
In
fact,
what
he
discovered
was
jogging
and
sprouts.
I
on
the
other
hand,
I
on
the
other
hand
am
an
alcoholic
and
I
could
not
stop
drinking
a
day
at
a
time.
I
on
the
other
hand,
would
come
home
to
that
man
and
he
would
give
me
that
look
and
he'd
see
that
huge
bottle
of
wine
going
down
every
night
and
he'd
give
me
that
disgusted
look,
just
that
disgusted
look,
you
know.
And
I
embarrassed
that
man
terribly
at
a
wedding
and
one
of
my
hardest
amends
was
to
that
man.
So
anyway,
finally
what
happened
was
after
about
a
year
and
1/2,
he
decided
he
could
not
live
with
me
anymore.
And
again,
we
were
working
at
a
company
together,
but
we
hadn't
told
anybody
we
were
dating
because
he
wanted
to
keep
it
a
secret.
And
so
he
found
me
an
apartment
very
quickly.
He
says
I
can't
live
with
you
anymore,
it's
your
smoking.
And
I
still
don't
believe
to
this
day
that's
what
it
was.
And
he
quickly
found
the
apartment
in
North
Hollywood,
CA.
And
that
is
where
I
did
my
last
drinking,
my
last
year
of
drinking
North
Hollywood,
CA
on
Camarillo
St.
between
Lankershim
and
Tahunga.
I
did
not
know
when
he
moved
me
there
that
that
was
a
hotbed
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
so
my
last
year
I
was
living
in
this
little
apartment
with
two
cats
and
I
put
this
aluminum
foil
type
stuff.
It
was
not
aluminum
foil,
but
it
was
silver
and
it
kept
the
sun
out
and
it
kept
you
from
looking
in.
And
because
I
didn't
want
the
manager
to
see
to
see
the
cast.
But
the
real
reason
is
I
really
didn't
want
anybody
looking
in.
You
know,
I
had
nobody
in
my
life.
Nobody
was
calling
me.
I
lived
a
very
sad,
you
know,
very
lonely
life,
very
pathetic.
My
mind,
all
I
did
was
I
would
get
up,
I
would
go
to
work.
I
would
have
to
go
to
the
Denny's
at
lunch
because
it
had
a
bar
there.
And
I
thought
it
was
the
only
Denny's
in
town
that
had
a
bar.
But
I've
discovered
since
then
many
of
you
have
found
other
Denny's
that
had
bars
in
them,
you
know,
and
I
would
go
every
day
at
lunch
and
I
would
tell
myself
if
you
go
to
the
bar,
you'll
get
served
faster.
I
don't
ever
remember
eating
at
the
bar
in
Denny's.
You
know,
I
did
not
know
at
that
point
in
time,
at
the
age
of
seven,
that
I
could
not
get
from
morning
to
afternoon
without
a
drink.
Did
not
know
that.
All
I
knew
was
that
I
had
to
go
and
I
would
drink
and
I
would
drink
at
Denny's
and
then
I
would
come
back
and
I
would
work
and
then
I
would
go
home.
And
I
always
stole
from
petty
cash.
I
always
reimbursed
it.
But
my
first
sponsor
said,
you
know,
what
did
you
take
it
without
asking?
I
said,
yes,
she
goes.
And
that's
known
as
stealing.
You
have
educated
me
on
a
lot
of
levels.
I
really
did
not
want
to
be
educated
about
when
I
first
got
here,
you
know,
but
I
thought
I
would
steal
from
petty
cash
every
day
because
you
see,
I
never
quite
seem
to
have
enough
money.
So
I
could
buy
that
big
bottle
of
wine
on
my
way
so
I
could
go
and
I
would
drink
and
I
would
just
pass
out.
You
know,
that
was
my
life.
I
was
going
nowhere.
I
had
stopped
driving
a
lot
because
I
am
a
very
dangerous
drunk.
I
am
a
drunk
driver.
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
I
came
to
on
the
one
O
1
on
the
four
O
5
on
Laurel
Canyon,
on
the
various
canyons,
wondering
just
out
of
the
blackout.
And
then
I
would
black
out
again,
you
know,
And
what
I
do
know
today,
and
this
really
scares
me,
the
longer
I'm
sober
and
the
more
that
scares
me.
And
I'm
really
glad,
glad
about
that.
Because
the
truth
is,
you
know,
they
say
if
you
go
out
the
best
you
can
hope
for
us
to
start
where
you
left.
And
that
is
where
I
would
start
off
is
coming
to
hopefully
out
of
a
blackout
on
the
405
somewhere.
So
anyway,
but
so
I,
so
I'd
stop
driving
'cause
that
was
just
a
little
too
much
fun
and
I
had
no
place
to
go
anyway.
And
I
had
no
money
to
go
drink
in
bars.
I've
never
been
a
bar
drinker
because
I
could
never
get
them
into
somehow
buy
me
the
drink.
I
guess
I
was
not
a
program
of
attraction.
So
this
last
year
I
was
just
drinking
at
home,
you
know,
I
would
go
home
and
I
would
drink
and
I
would
pass
out,
you
know,
and
that,
that
was
my
drinking,
you
know,
that
was
my
drinking.
I
got
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
It
was
actually,
I
first
came
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
in
March
of
1985
because
what
had
happened
was
this
is
where
I
did
that
last
night.
That
night
I
came
to
on
the
four,
oh,
actually
on
the
101134,
excuse
me,
I
came
to
on
the
134
in
a
blackout
about
two
or
three
in
the
morning.
And
I'm
clutching
for
Valium.
And
I
don't
know
how
I
know
their
Valium,
but
I
know.
And
I,
I
remember
this
every
time
I
drive
the
134
at
that
point
in
time,
at
that
point
on
the
the
134,
I
remember
this
coming
too.
And
I'm
coming
to
and
all
of
a
sudden
I'm
remembering
where
I
had
been
and
what
I
had
done.
And
I
could
not
believe,
I
remember
at
that
moment,
I
could
not
believe
how
desperate
I
was
for
any
sense
of
human
contact
and
what
I
was
willing
to
do
to
get
that,
that
utter
incomprehensible
demoralization.
And
I
blacked
back
out.
I
do
not
remember
getting
home.
And
I
came
to
the
next
morning
on
my
couch.
Somehow
I
got
home.
I
came
to
the
next
morning
on
my
couch
and
the
television's
blaring.
And
it's
March
of
1985,
and
this
is
when
all
the
Schick
Shadel
hospitals
and
all
the
treatment
centers
and
they
were
all
advertising,
you
know,
Saturday
morning.
What
better,
you
know,
target
market,
what
better
way
to
get
them
as
they're
coming
to,
you
know.
And
I,
I'm
sitting
there
and
I
have
this
moment
and
I
realize
that
I
want
to
die.
And
I
realized
that
I
am
not
going
to
die,
That
in
fact,
I
am
going
to
continue
to
wake
up
day
after
day
after
day
in
this
utter
demoralization
and
incomprehension
of
what
I
am
doing
to
myself.
And
so
I'm
one
of
those
that
the
only
thing
I
knew
about
Alcoholics
Anonymous
was
from
this
movie,
Days
of
Wine
and
Roses.
And
so
I'm
one
of
those.
I
called,
I
looked
you
up
in
the
phone
book
and
I
called
a
central
office
and
I
said
something
like,
I
think
I
may
have
a
problem
with
alcohol.
And
no
man
had
answered.
And
he
said,
can
I
take
your
phone
number?
You
know,
and
I
always
tell
the
newcomers
and
gosh,
you
know,
what
a
great,
what
a
great,
you
know,
breath
of
sobriety
here.
You
know
I
tell
the
women
I
sponsor.
You
know
your
job.
I
told
them
you
know,
you
know
I
think
I
have
AI.
Hope
you
be
desperate.
I
hope
you
be
desperate.
And
desperate
doesn't
mean
100%
desperate.
It
means
51%
desperate.
And
I
was
51%
desperate.
And
so
I
gave
him
my
right
telephone
number.
And
a
few
minutes
later,
the
phone
rang.
And
I
still
remember
looking
at
that
phone
on
that
coffee
table
in
this
disgusting
place
that
I
was
living.
And
I
thought,
are
you
going
to
answer
it?
And
I
did.
And
he
had
found
a
woman
to
call
me
back.
And
I
said
again,
something
like,
I
think
I
may
have
a
problem
with
alcohol,
you
see?
But
I'm
still
looking
good.
I
have
a
job,
I
have
a
car.
The
car
used
to
be
square.
Now
it's
a
little
round,
but
who
cares?
You
know?
You
know,
you
know,
in
my
head
I'm
still
fine,
but
there
is
something
wrong
with
me.
I
remember
thinking
there
was
something
intrinsically
wrong
with
me
as
a
human
being.
There
is
just
I
am
garbage.
I
am
garbage.
And
I
don't
know
what's
wrong
with
me
that
I
cannot
seem
to
stop
this.
And
So
what
happened?
I
said,
I
think
I
may
have
a
problem
with
alcohol.
And
then
I
remember
I
said,
but
I
don't
have
enough
money
to
go
to
a
treatment
center.
And
she
laughed.
She
said,
oh,
honey,
I
spent
$30,000
on
treatment
centers,
but
it's
Alcoholics
Anonymous
that
got
me
sober.
And
so
she
talked
to
me
for
a
few
minutes
and
she
said,
oh,
I
and
A
friend
would
like
to
come
over
and
talk
to
you.
And
I
remember
thinking,
no,
you
know,
I
think
I
was
afraid
they
were
going
to
come
steal
something.
You
know,
and
trust
me,
there
was
nothing
in
that
house
to
steal.
And
so
I
said,
you
tell
me
where
you
are.
And
little
did
I
realize
that
I
was
living
right
down
the
street
from
one
of
the
big
there
was
a
big
speaker
meeting
at
that
time.
Now,
I
used
to
always
walk
down
to
the
Ralphs.
There
was
a
route
at
the
corner
of
Lankershim
and
Camarillo.
There
used
to
be,
there
is
a
church
there,
Saint
Matthews,
and
there
used
to
be
a
big
Ralphs.
So
I
would
go
down
every
Saturday
night
and
get
my
big
bottle
of
wine
and
I'd
see
all
these
people
hanging
outside
this
church
and
smoking
away.
And
I'm
thinking,
Oh
my,
they're,
they're
dedicated,
aren't
they,
you
know,
hanging
out
at
a
church
on
a
Saturday
night.
Little
did
I
know
that
was
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
you
know,
And
So
what
happened
was
they
told
me
there
was
a
big
meeting
down
there
and
to
and
to
just
go.
And
so
I
wanted
to
look
good.
So
it
took
me
all
day
to
sober
up,
but
I
was
still
desperate.
That
demoralization
was
still
with
me.
And
so
I
remember
I
walked
my
way
to
that
church
and
I
am
very
grateful
for
greeters
at
meetings
because
I
gotta
tell
you,
it
took
every
ounce
of
courage
I
had
to
walk
to
the
church.
And
courage
is
not
lack
of
fear,
it
is
doing
it
despite
the
fear.
And
so
I
don't
know
that
I
could
have
walked
across
the
threshold
once
I
heard
all
the
bright,
the
loud
laughter
and
the
bright
lights.
I
think
I
would
have
just
run.
But
there
were
two
greeters
at
the
door,
and
they
just
pulled
me
in.
I'm
thinking
I'm
looking
good.
And
I'm
sure
they
saw
a
newcomer,
you
know,
And
I'm
so
glad
they
pulled
me
in
gently
and
they
didn't
make
me
sit
in
the
front.
And
I'm
so
very
grateful
for
that.
You
know,
they
let
me
sit
in
the
back,
but
they
did
find
a
woman
to
sit
on
each
side
of
me.
And
they
got
me
a
cup
of
coffee.
And
I
don't
remember
what
I
heard
of
that
meeting.
I
remember.
I
do
remember
thinking,
how
low
can
you
go?
You
have
now
come
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
but
I
was
desperate.
You
know,
I
didn't
know
where
else
to
go.
You
know,
I
had
done
therapy
in
the
past.
You
know,
I
had
done
cold
Turkey.
I
tried
to
do
it
for
him,
but
I
was
a
daily
drinker.
I
could
not
stop.
And
so
I
looked
down
and
I
heard
a
guy
take
a
cake
for
10
years
and
talk
about
being
diagnosed
as
paranoid
schizophrenic.
For
whatever
reason,
that
was
a
program
of
attraction
for
me
because
I
came
back
the
next
day.
And
so
I
lasted
about
3
weeks.
And
it's
like
I
tell
the
women
I
sponsor.
Your
job
is
to
get
them
to
the
meeting.
You
don't
know
what
the
newcomers
going
to
hear.
Trust
me,
it's
not
going
to
be
your
wise
spiritual
you're
trying
to
hand
off
to
them.
You
know,
you
need
to
help
them
get
to
the
meeting.
So
I
lasted
about
3
weeks,
but
you
see,
I
started
to
feel
better.
I
remember
thinking,
you
know
what,
I'm
only
28.
You
know,
I've
made
so
many
mistakes
in
my
life.
If
I'm
not
really
an
alcoholic,
I
don't
want
to
make
this
mistake.
So,
you
know,
I
had
the
big
book,
thank
you
very
much.
I
now
knew
you
just
don't
drink
so
much.
Thank
you
very
much.
And,
and
I
had
gotten
a
new
job
down
in
Anaheim
now.
And
so
I,
I
remember
thinking
I'm
going
to
be
fine.
And
So
what
happened
was
I
got
a
new
job
down
in
Anaheim
and
I'm
still
living
in
North
Hollywood.
And
I
went
out.
I
went,
I
was
working
there
for
a
couple
weeks
and
I
went
out
with
a
bunch
of
people
after
work
and
had
a
couple
of
drinks.
And
you
know
what,
The
heavens
didn't
part.
And
I
didn't
get
hit
by
lightning.
And
you
know
what,
I
was
fine.
I
didn't
come
to
in
a
blackout,
you
know,
coming
home.
But
what
happened,
it
didn't
take
long
because
one
of
those
things
that
I
had
not
realized
I
had
heard
in
those
three
weeks
I
had
come
to
you
was
some
of
those
yet,
you
know,
And
now
I
have
to
drink
in
the
morning
to
get
in
the
car
because
the
fear
is
back.
And
it
is
back
worse
than
ever.
Because
you
see,
I'm
not
a
new
job.
And
the
truth
is
I
know
I'm
garbage
and
I'm
just
waiting
for
them
to
find
out
that
they've
made
a
huge
mistake.
So
I
have
to
drink
to
get
into
the
car
to
drive
from
North
Hollywood
down
to
Anaheim.
I
have
to
drink
at
lunch
to
get
from
the
morning
to
the
afternoon.
And
then
I
have
to
drink
before
I
get
back
in
the
car.
I
have
to
before
I
leave
Anaheim
to
come
back.
And
I
did
that
for
about
a
month.
And
my
last
drunk
was
Memorial
Day
week
in
1985.
I
remember
it
started
with
my
brother's
weddings.
Weddings
and
me
have
never
done
real
well.
And
so
I
remember
I
don't
remember
much
about
the
wedding.
I
do
remember
trying
to
make
it
about
me
and
not
about
him.
And
then
I
came
back
to
Los
Angeles
and
I
went
back
to
work
and
it
was
the
first
day
back
after
Memorial
Day.
And
a
bunch
of
us
went
to
Charlie
Brown's
after
work
down
in
Anaheim.
And
my
boss
was
there.
And
I
remember
I'm
drinking
wine
after
wine
after
wine
after
wine
and
my
boss.
And
when
I
drink,
I
don't
know
about
you,
but
when
I
drink,
my
mouth
starts
to
flap
and
it's
flapping
and
flapping
and
flapping
away.
And
I'm
saying
all
the
things
that
I
shouldn't
be
saying
because,
you
see,
I'm
trying
to
impress
you.
Because
you
see,
I
know
I'm
garbage.
And
so
I'm
trying
to
be
something
I'm
not.
I'm
trying
to
be
bigger
and
better,
you
know?
And
trust
me,
I
am
not
impressing
you.
And
my
boss
has
given
me
that
look
like,
shut
up,
shut
up,
you
know,
And
I
can't.
And
all
of
a
sudden,
like
silent
radio
again,
I
don't
remember
reading
this.
Like
silent
radio.
I
saw
a
line
from
the
big
book
in
my
head
that
said.
And
before
he
knew
what,
he
found
himself
pounding
on
the
bar
one
more
time,
wondering
how
he
got
started.
And
I
knew
at
that
moment
it
was
over.
And
So
what
happened
was
somehow
I
don't
remember
getting
home
from
Anaheim
to
North
Hollywood.
I
do
not.
It
was
a
blackout
one
more
time.
But
what
I
can
tell
you
is
I
came
to
in
my
apartment
in
North
Hollywood
on
the
phone
to
him
who
could
not
stand
me
anymore
because
I
kind
of
stalked
him
a
little
bit
asking
him,
why
don't
you
love
me
anymore?
And
when
that
man
heard
who
it
was,
the
disgust
in
his
voice,
I
could
not
believe
that
anyone
could
hate
me
as
much
as
this
man
hated
me.
And
so
the
next
morning,
I
woke
up
hungover,
I'm
sure
you
know,
and
some
of
you
had
forced
of
some
of
the
women
had
forced
telephone
numbers
on
me.
And
so
I
called
one
of
those
phone
numbers
and
I
said,
are
you
going
to
a
meeting
tonight?
She
said
no,
but
you
know
where
we
are.
And
she
hung
up.
And
I'm
going
to
tell
you
that
woman
gave
me
the
greatest
gift
because
it
says
if
you
want
what
we
have
and
are
willing
to
go
to
any
length
to
get
it.
And
I
had
to
be
willing
to
go
to
any
length
to
get
it.
I'm
not
sure
I
really
wanted
it,
but
I
knew
I
did
not
want
what
I
had
any
more.
I
could
not
live
the
way
I
was
living
anymore.
I
did
not
want
to.
I
wanted
to
die
and
it
wasn't
going
to
happen.
And
so
I
did.
I
crawled
my
way
back
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
my
first
meeting
back,
I
used
to
go
to
a
lot
of
meetings
at
this
place
called
Studio
12
in
North
Hollywood,
and
it
was
a
men's
recovery
house,
but
they
had
a
lot
of
mixed
meetings
there.
And
I
walked
back
in
just
terribly
embarrassed
and
humiliated.
And
what
I
can
tell
you
is
what
I
most
impressed
me
was
that
you
remembered
my
name.
And
nobody
had
remembered
my
name
in
a
very
long
time.
And
so
you,
you
pulled
me
back
in.
And
I'm
not
one
of
those
I
was
happy
to
be
here,
newcomers.
I
got
to
tell
you,
you
know,
I
really
went
out
of
my
way.
I
think
I
was
really
daring
you
to
ask
me
to
leave.
So
I
went
out.
First
of
all,
you
made
sure
I
had
commitments.
Now,
I
never
thought
about
turning
down
the
commitments.
And
you
just
never
occurred
to
me
very
grateful
for
that.
But
you
made
sure
I
had
commitments
so
that
I
would
show
up
and
be
here
in
hopes
that
I
would
hear
the
message.
So
you
allowed
me
to
be
the
really
the
hostile,
you
know,
cookie
lady,
you
know,
you
know,
the
really
mean
greeter,
you
know,
the,
you
know,
I
will
make
the
worst
coffee
in
town
kind
of
coffee
gal.
You
know
it.
And
it
really
was
I,
I
think
I
really
wanted
you
to
ask
me
to
leave.
And
the
old
timers
were
just
kind
of,
oh,
honey,
just
keep
coming
back.
Smile
as
they
pour
half
their
coffee,
pour
water
and
it,
you
know,
and
you
know
what?
And
those
commitments
kept
me
coming
here.
And
then
you
kind
of,
you
kind
of
you
kind
of
nag
me
about,
well,
I
need
to
get
a
sponsor,
get
a
sponsor,
get
a
sponsor.
And
we'll
finally
ask
a
woman
to
get
a,
you
know,
asked
her,
you
know,
will
you
be
my
sponsor?
And
I
remember
she
said,
no,
but
I'll
take
you
through
the
steps.
Well,
that
wasn't
quite
the
answer
I
was
looking
for,
but
I
called
her
my
sponsor
anyway,
you
know,
And
then
I
just,
you
know,
you
told
me
if
you
could
drink
every
day,
you
can
go
to
a
meeting
every
day.
So
you
told
me
these
things
that
just
somehow
I
couldn't
argue
with,
OK.
It's
not
like
I
had
a
great
social
life.
He
matured
commitments.
You
said
if
you
can
drink
every
day,
you
can
go
to
a
meeting
every
day.
You
nag
me
into
getting
a
sponsor
and
you
really
highly
recommended.
I
started,
I
start
working
these
steps.
And
so
I
did
start
working
these
steps
with
that
sponsor
and
I'm
very
grateful.
I
like
I
said,
I
was
not
easy
to
work
with.
I
was
really
unhappy.
I
was
really
angry,
which
I
discovered
through
a
lot
of
inventories.
That
was
fair.
It
was
all
fear.
I
was
frightened
of
you.
You
know,
we
were
just
talking
before
the
meeting
about,
you
know,
not
liking
people.
And
I'm
a
woman
who
at
the
age
of,
you
know,
12,
I
had
a
poster
on
my
wall
of
Lucy
from
Peanuts
that
said
with
her
hands
on
her
hips,
I
love
mankind.
It's
the
people
I
can't
stand,
you
know,
because
you
all
scared
me.
You
all
scared
me.
I've
been
very
equal
opportunity.
And
so
I
came
to
these
meetings
and
I
started
to
watch
trudge
this
road,
you
know,
and
that's
where
I
began
to
discover,
though
the
fellowship
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
I
didn't
realize
everything.
I'm
telling
you
now,
I've
learned
in
hindsight,
I
had
no
idea
what
you
were
giving
me.
All
I
knew
is
that
if
I
went
to
these
meetings
that
for
the
for
an
hour
and
a
half,
the
headache
that
I
had,
because
trust
me,
when
you
think
as
much
as
I
think
you
have
a
headache,
I
would
get
relief
from
that
headache
for
an
hour
and
a
half,
you
know,
and
I
would
have
some
place
to
go,
you
know.
And
so,
and
then
you
start
to
tell
me
things
like,
you
know,
don't
leave
5
minutes
for
before
the
miracle.
And
I
remember
sitting
in
Studio
12
thinking
very
hard,
you
know,
it
would
be
just
my
luck.
If
there
be
such
a
thing
as
a
miracle,
I'd
be
trotting
door
right
as
it's
about
to
happen.
You
know,
that
kept
me
here
for
a
very
long
time.
So
I
started
to
work
the
steps
with
that
sponsor.
But
you
know
what
the
truth
is?
It
says,
you
know,
the
promises
happen
midway
through
the
9th
and
it
says
you're
really
not
going
to
have
a
spiritual
awakening
until
the
culmination
of
the
12
steps,
you
know.
So
what
happens?
I
started
to
work
the
steps
with
this
sponsor.
And
then
when
I
was
about
three
years
sober,
you
know,
I
remember
think
I'm
bored
with
my
life,
you
know,
and
I'm
a
mover
because,
you
see,
when
I'm
bored,
what
do
I
do?
I
move.
And
I
don't
just
move
across
town.
I
got
to
move
1000
miles
someplace,
you
know,
and,
and
quit
a
job
and
move
and,
and
I
hadn't
finished
the
steps.
You
see,
I
wasn't
a
free
woman.
I
had
no
power
greater
than
myself.
I
wasn't
free.
I
hadn't
done
any
of
the
amends,
you
know,
but
I
was.
So
I
just
didn't
want
to
do
this
thing
anymore.
And
So
what
happens?
I
remember
sitting
there,
I'm
going
to
move
and
my
mother
was
about
to
retire.
My
sister
was
about
to
declare
bankruptcy
up
down
here.
And
so
she
wanted
to
move
and
they
all
decided
to
move
up
to
Seattle
because
I
like
Seattle.
And
So
what
happened
was
I
told
my
sponsor,
I
still
remember,
I
told
her
I
sitting
across
from
dinner
and
saying
I'm
moving
Seattle.
And
she
gave
me
that
sponsor
look,
that
look
that
says,
oh,
well,
there's
nothing
I
can
say
about
this
except
all
she
said
was,
remember,
you
can
always
come
back.
I'm
so
very
grateful
for
that.
And
so
I
did.
Within
two
weeks,
I
was
out
of
Los
Angeles,
up
in
Seattle.
And
within
24
hours
of
being
living
with
my
mother
and
sister,
I
realized
this
had
been
the
biggest
mistake
I
had
ever
made.
And
I'm
going
to
tell
you
Seattle
A
A
is
just
fine.
It
is
just
fine.
It
was
different.
It
is
just
fine.
And
I'm
also,
I'm
going
to
say
I'm
very.
To
the
Pacific
group,
because
there
was
a
gal
who
had
moved
up
there
from
the
Pacific
group
and
they
really
know
how
to
be
of
service.
And
that
woman,
I
was,
I'm,
I
was
heading
out
the
door,
you
know,
and
she
put
her
hand
out
to
me
and
she
goes,
you're
from
LA.
She
goes,
I'm
from
LA.
We're
going
to
be
friends
with
you,
like
it
or
not,
OK,
You
know,
And
so,
and
she,
and
then
we
took
every
commitment
possible
because
commitments
weren't
quite
as
important
up
there
as
they
were
down
here.
So
I
did.
I
did
everything
she
told
me
to
do,
you
know,
but
what
happened
when
you
see,
I
did
not
have,
I
did
not
have
a
power
greater
than
myself.
I
had
not
had
awakening.
I
had
not
finished
the
steps,
you
know,
and
I'm
living
with
these
two
women
that
I
absolutely
hate.
I
mean,
we
have
all
regressed.
Trust
me.
We
have
all
regressed.
So
what
happens
is
I
almost
drank
at
nine
months
and
I
got
on
my
knees
in
the
kitchen
and
I
said
to
this
power
that
I
did
not
believe
in.
I
said,
please
help
me,
Please
help
me.
And
then
I
said
to
my
mother,
and
I
got
to
tell
you
nobody.
When
I
told
my
family
that
I
was
getting
sober,
that
I
gotten
sober,
nobody
in
my
family
jumped
up
and
down.
My
mother
wouldn't
talk
to
me
for
a
month.
And
my
father
always
said
was,
I'm
sorry,
I
said
a
bad
example
for
you.
You
know,
it
was
the
big
elephant
in
the
house.
And
so,
umm,
I
said
to
my
mother,
I
said,
I
gotta
move
back
to
Lai
said
it
because
I'm
going
to
drink
up
here.
And
she
would
get
that
look
on
her
face
kind
of
like
that.
I
don't
want
to
know.
I
don't
want
to
know.
I
don't
want
to
know,
you
know?
But
So
what
happened
is
we
all
moved
back
to
Los
Angeles.
And
so
here,
so
I
can
tell
you
as
I
took
the
second-half
of
the
first
step,
which
is
my
life
is
unmanageable
when
I
was
signing
a
30
year
mortgage
paper
with
these
two
women
to
buy
a
house.
And
I'm
living
with
these
two
women
that
I
absolutely
hate.
And
I'm
buying
a
house
out
of
fear
of
economic
insecurity,
that
this
is
the
one
chance
I'm
going
to
have
to
have
something
that's
mine.
And
I
don't
care
that
I
have
to
live
with
them,
no
matter
how
much
I
hate
them.
I
am
down
to
one
meeting
a
week.
And
we
moved
to
West
Hills
and
I'm
living
in
an
8
by
10
bedroom,
no
aluminum
foil,
but
I'm
living
in
an
8
by
10
bedroom.
I
hate
my
job.
I'm
going
to
one
meeting
a
week,
which
is
the
Saturday
women's
meeting.
And
I
got
to
tell
you
when
I
took
my
four
year
cake
there,
I
was
really
angry
at
my
mother
because
she
had
ended
up
in
the
emergency
room
one
more
time.
And
I
was
less
a
little
irritated
at
the
got
it
because,
you
know,
it
was
my
4th
birthday.
Not
that
they
cared,
you
know.
So
I
remember
I
went
to
that
meeting
and
I
took
my
four
year
cake
and
I
got
to
tell
you,
not
one
woman
in
that
room
wanted
what
I
had.
I
saw
at
that
moment
how
sick
I
was
reflected
in
their
eyes.
I
don't
know
what
I
was
sharing,
but
I
guarantee
you
it
was
the
disease
of
alcoholism
at
four
years
of
going
to
meetings.
And
that's
why
I
say
you
can
go
to
all
the
meetings
in
the
world,
but
unless
I
was
going
to
work
those
12
steps
fully
and
apply
them
daily
in
my
life,
I
was
not
going
to
find
peace.
I
was
not
going.
I
was
headed
out
the
door.
Because
the
truth
is,
and
this
is
something
Clancy
also
says,
the
12
steps
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
have
done
for
me
slowly,
what
a
a
has
done
for
me
quickly.
And
if
I
don't
find
a
way
to
change
how
I
feel
inside,
because
my
nature
is
restless,
irritable,
and
discontent,
if
I
don't
find
a
way
to
change
how
I
am
inside,
I
will
ultimately
have
to
find
a
way
to
fix
those
feelings.
And
if
I
don't
do
it
through
the
12
steps
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
a
power
grid,
I'm
going
to
have
to
do
it
the
way
I
know
how,
which
is
through
alcohol.
And
the
best
I
can
hope
for
is
coming
to
out
of
a
blackout
on
the
405
and
hopefully
not
kill
somebody.
And
So
what
happened
was
that
four.
And
so
then
what
happened?
A
woman
we
both
know
she
had
just
found
out,
Ashley,
that
she
was
at
the
Saturday
women's
meeting.
You
never
know
where
the
message
is
going
to
come
from.
She
just
found
out
about
this
Saturday
women's
meeting
that
her
sponsor
was
going
to
speak.
And
she
just
found
out
that
her
sister
had
been
diagnosed
with
terminal
illness
and
she
was
too
upset.
And
I
remember
she
she
goes,
would
you
drive
me?
My
sponsor
speaking
tonight
and
I'm
just
too
upset
to
drive.
And
I
can
tell
you
that
after
hanging
out
in
a
for
about
four
years,
I
did
no
service
had
something
to
do
with
this
thing.
So
I
said
sure.
And
little
did
I
realize
that
that
woman
was
going
to
be
an
Eskimo
too.
At
the
woman
who
I
believe
changed
my
life,
which
is
my
sponsor.
And
So
what
happened
is
I
went
and
I
heard
that
woman
sharing
that
woman
shared
how
at
7
years
of
sobriety,
she
and
her
husband,
she
was
dying
out
of
resentment
and
fear.
She
was
having
a
nervous
breakdown,
but
it
was
all
about
resentment
and
fear
her
husband
and
their
marriage
over
she
she
got
she
goes,
there
were
like
three
women
in
AA
in
the
town
they
were
living
in
and
she
couldn't
get
along
with
two
of
them.
You
know,
she
was
just
dying.
And
I
got
to
tell
you,
that
woman
gave
me
the
first
hope
I'd
gotten
because
she
see,
it
was
seven
years,
seven
years
and
she
was
dying.
And
you
see,
because
I
realized
that
I
had
thought
that
if
I
had
not
gotten
this
program
after
my
first
year,
I'd
somehow
miss
my
window
of
opportunity.
And
so
it
wasn't,
there
was
still
hope
there.
And
so
it
took
me.
I
got
to
tell
you,
it
took
me
a
couple
more
months
to
call
her
to
get
a
little
more
desperate.
And
Martha
would
send
messages.
She
would
send
messages
through
Martha,
the
newcomer.
I'm
four
years
and
the
newcomer
knows
I'm
sick,
you
know,
And
she
would
send
messages
through
Martha
and
say,
hey,
if
Gloria
ever
wants
to
call
me.
But
you
see,
I
have
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
I
have
to
ask
for
the
help.
And
finally
I
did.
I
got
desperate
enough
and
I
called
her
and
I
said,
will
you
sponsor
me?
And
she
did
exactly
what
the
big
book
talks
about.
She
said,
why
don't
you
come
over
and
let's
talk
about
it.
And
she
shared
her
story
and
she
laid
out
the
kid
of
virtual
tools.
And
I
remember
sitting
there
in
her
part
in
her
house
in
Sherman
Oaks
on
Moorpark,
just
dripping
sweat,
dripping
sweat,
dripping
sweat.
And
I'm
waiting
for
her
to
offer
to
take
me
through
the
steps.
But
that's
not
what
the
book
says.
I
have
to
ask
for
it.
And
out
of
my
little
voice,
like
squeaked,
will
you
take
me
through
the
steps?
And
I
got
to
tell.
And
then
I
started
to
go
into,
she
goes,
yes.
And
I
started
going
to
should
I
sell
the
house?
Should
I
leave
my
family?
Should
I
leave
my
job?
Blah,
blah,
blah,
blah.
She
goes,
I
don't
know.
And
I
got
to
tell
you,
she's
one
of
the
few
people
in
alcohol
synonymous
that
did
not
have
an
opinion
on
my
life,
you
know,
And
that
is
why
that
woman
is
still
my
sponsor
today,
as
much
as
I've
tried
to
turn
my
life
over
to
her.
And
so
she
goes,
I
don't
know
what
you
should
do,
but
I
guarantee
you
if
you
work
these
12
steps
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
your
thinking
will
clear
up.
And
when
you're
thinking
clears
up,
then
you
can
make
decisions
that
are
right
for
you.
That
has
held
me
in
good
stead
since
that
day.
So
that
woman
is
still
my
sponsor.
Longest
relationship
I've
ever
had
25
years.
And,
and
I'm
very
grateful
life
has
been
up
and
down.
My
dad
died
when
I
had
six
months
over,
and
my
mother
died
when
I
had
10
years
sober.
You
know,
I've
had
jobs.
You
know,
my
sister
and
I,
when
we
went
to
sell
that
house,
it
got
really,
really
ugly.
And
I
had
to
become
willing
at
15
years
of
sober,
I
had
to
become
willing
to
walk
away
from
everything
in
that
house
because
I
was
so
resentful.
I
was
going
to
drink
if
I
stayed
in
that
house,
demanding
what
I
felt
was
rightfully
mine
because
she
did
not
want
to
sell
the
house.
So
I
moved
into
a
little
studio
apartment
in
Sherman
Oaks.
And
for
the
first
time,
I
found
a
little
piece.
And
I
got
to
tell
you,
I
was
really
angry
with
her.
Very,
very
angry
with
her.
But
Pat
made
sure
I
called
her.
She
goes,
you
know
what?
I
don't
care
what
you
talk
about.
So
we
talked
about
the
animals.
That's
all
we
talked
about.
And
finally,
after
working
these
steps
and
really
applying
and
doing
everything
that
Pat
told
me
and
calling
her
once,
finally
I
came
to
a
point
where
I
went
to
my
sister
and
I
said,
you
know
what?
You
don't
need
to
pay
me
back
anything
anymore.
I
don't
care.
You're
my
sister,
that's
all
I
want.
And
I
was
free.
I
was
free.
Yes,
me.
Goosebumps
still.
So
anyway,
well,
you
have
made
me
a
free
woman
and
a
comfortable
woman
in
my
own
skin
and
I
am
very
grateful
to
that.
And
just
I
keep
coming
back
because
you
know,
I
need
you
as
much
now
as
ever.
I
do
know
that
I
have
another
drink
of
me.
I'm
not
sure
I
have
another
recovery.
Thank
you.
OK,
what
do
I
do
now?
Oh,
questions,
questions.
Any
question.
Wow,
I
must
have
answered
everything
in
that
little
25
minutes.
Sarah
Hand
Did
I
see
it?
OK,
yes,
OK.
The
question
is
what
is
my
life
like
today?
You
know,
my
life
is
it's
real.
My
life
is
very
real
today.
And
I'm
a
woman
who
always
had
great
intentions,
you
know,
great
aspirations,
great
hopes.
Today
is
very
real.
It's
good
and
it's
and
it's
hard,
hard
times.
You
know,
what
I
can
tell
is
fear
doesn't
rule
my
life
anymore.
I
have
good
friends
in
my
life.
I
have
I
am
peaceful.
I
am
a
woman.
I
am
a
runner
by
nature,
you
know,
because
you
see,
when
I
blow
through
all
of
you
or
there's
something
fearful,
I
got
to
go
and
I
got
to
run.
But
by
working
these
steps
and
getting
comfortable
because
you
see,
I
do
believe
in
a
power
greater
than
myself
that
I
do.
And
I'm
not
going
to
lie
to
you.
I
wish
I
told
you
I
did
it
every
day,
but
I
do
more
and
more
every
morning
Rev
up
the
tools
and
ask
God
for
help
and
ask
God
for
direction
and
really
try
to
turn
the,
the
day
over
to
that
God
that
I
am
comfortable
and
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
whatever
is
going
to
come
my
way,
you
know,
and
I
didn't
know
that
I
wanted
peace.
I,
I,
I
think
when
I
in
here,
I
wanted
him,
the
house,
the
job,
the
money,
you
know,
I
mean,
who
doesn't
honestly,
you
know,
I
haven't
gotten
some
of
the
things
that
I
thought
I
wanted,
but
I
can
tell
you
is
I
love
the
life
I
have.
You
know,
I
sponsor
women.
I
am
sponsored,
you
know,
I
have
good
fellowship.
I
am
a
part
of
my
Home
group.
You
know,
I
bring
value
to
the
table
and
I'm
a
woman
who
never
thought
I
had
any
value
at
all,
you
know,
and
I
bring
value
to
the
table.
I
try
to
be
of
service
to
the
best
I
can
on
a
daily
basis.
Some
days
are
better
than
other.
And
you
know
what,
I'm
glad
we
have
just
24
hours
in
a
day.
And
I'm
glad
I
heard
a
long
time
ago,
you
start
your
day
over
anytime.
You
know,
I'm
grateful
to
be
here.
I,
I
am
blessed.
I
am
blessed
that
I
have
history
with
people.
That's
one
of
the
best
things
that
I
see.
I'm
a
woman.
We
had
no
history
with
anybody.
My
family
very
small,
no
history.
And
I
have
history
with
Beverly
and
I
have
history
with
Melanie
and
I
have
history
with
Manny.
And
for
a
woman
like
me
who
wanted
so
much
to
have
connection,
connection
with
people,
and
even
though
we
may
not
see
each
other
often,
I
have
a
connection
and
a
history
with
these
people.
Nobody
can
take
away
and
nobody.
And
just
to
finish
up,
nobody
can
take
away
the
peace
and
comfort
that
I
feel
every
night
when
I
go
to
bed,
knowing
that
I
did
the
best
I
could.
I
do
not
have
to
drink
anymore
to
drown
the
feelings
of
discontent
and
demoralization.
Thank
you
for
asking.
Yes,
Sir.
So
what
happened
with
my
sister
when
I
told
her
that,
you
know,
my
sister
and
I
still
have
a
relationship
today
and
she,
what
I
can
tell
you
is
she
sold
the
house
for
a
lot
of
money
and
I'm
really
glad
I
don't
know
how
much.
And
she
moved
out
to
Washington,
DC.
We
are,
you
know
what,
I
love
my
sister
and
she
is
my
sister
and
but
I
know
who
I'm
dealing
with.
And
so
the
truth
is,
and
I
found
out
through
inventories
that
actually
she's
a
very
fragile
woman
and
that
I
have
a
program,
I
have
a
place
to
go
and
she
has
no
place
to
go.
She,
you
know,
you
know,
we're
there
for
each
other.
I
don't
know
that
she
tells
me
the
truth
about
a
lot
of
things.
I
mean,
we
still
talk
in
a
very
superficial
level.
I
know
she's
had
health
problems.
I've
tried
to
do
what
I
can
for
her,
but
she's
making
the
choices
that
she
wanted
to
make
in
life.
So
I
guess
what
I
can
say
is
I
did
not
draw
a
line
through
her
name
and
she
did
not
draw
a
line
through
my
name.
I
think
the
fact
that
I
went
to
her
and
said
you
owe
me
nothing
anymore
was
the
turning
point
because
where
we
were
heading
was
there
was
no
turning
back.
It
had
become
so
charged,
you
know,
And
So
what
I
know
is
when
a
resentment,
it
will
take
me
down.
And
it
wasn't
worth
it.
And
so
I'm
grateful
for
the
relationship
we
have.
It's
not
the
kind
of
relationship
I
would
have
hoped
for,
but
she's
still
my
sister.
And
if
push
comes
to
shove,
I
will
be
there
for
her.
Thank
you
for
asking
John
Hand
over
here.
Absolutely.
Could
I
talk
about
the
amends
as
particularly
to
that
man
he
was
on
the
immense,
you
know,
it
was.
Well,
first
of
all,
I'm
actually
very
grateful
for
blackouts
because
there's
a
lot
of
men's
I've
never
had
to
make,
so
I'm
grateful
for
that
and
moving
as
much
as
I
have.
They
don't
come
up
to
you
in
meetings
because
they
live
in
another
part
of
the
country.
The
amends
to
my
and
like
I
said,
the
amends
to
my
family
was
a
little
hard
because
nobody
wanted
to
hear
it.
You
know,
when
my
father
had
died
and
I
was
not
able
to
make
amends
to
my
father
directly.
So
there
was
a
man
who
was
actually
God
puts
people
in
our
lives
and
a
man
that
I
worked
for.
He
was
just
the
sweet.
This
man
loved
me
and
he
just
loved
me
and
I
So
I
was
able
to
make
amends
to
my
father
through
this
man
because
at
three
years
of
sobriety,
he
got
very
ill.
And
so
I
would
go
and
visit
him
at
the
hospital
and
I
would
read
him
out
of
the
big
book
and
I
was
able
tell
that
man
about
how
I
loved
him.
He
was
just
a
sweet
gentleman
and
all
the
things
I
wanted
to
tell
my
father.
I
was
able
to
tell
that
man
when
I
gave
me
the
immense
to
my
mother,
she
just
sat
there.
She
really
didn't
want
to
hear
it,
you
know,
and
all
I
really,
and
you
know,
what
I've
learned
is
we
don't
shove
anything
down
their
throat.
You
know,
if
a
a
if
me
telling
her
I
was
an
A
major
uncomfortable,
I
didn't
have
to
shove
that
down
her
throat.
But
what
I
did
do
is
acknowledge
I
must
have
scared
you.
And
I'm
sorry
I
was
so
volatile
and
I'm
sorry
I
was
so
needy.
You
know,
I'm
sorry
for
that,
But
I'm
much,
you
know,
but
I'm,
I'm
taking
care
of
now
and
I'm
responsible
now.
And,
and
that
woman
lived
my
we
had
that
house
until
the
day
she
died.
And
so
I
was,
I
was
making
a
living
amends
to
my
mother
and
just
being
a
good
daughter,
you
know,
now
for
the
man,
what
happened
was
because
trust
me,
he
did
not
want
to
see
me.
And
he
was
one
of
the
last
ones.
I
remember
standing
outside
of
Dickens
on
a
Friday
night.
I
had
tracked
him
down
and
I
had
left
a
message
at
his
work
phone
and,
and
said,
this
is
Gloria.
And
I
was
six
years
sober,
I
think
at
the
time.
And
so
he
hadn't
heard
from
me
in
six
years.
And
I
left
a
message
and
I
heard
his
voice.
This
is
Gloria,
this
is
my
number.
Would
you
please
call
me?
I
need
to
talk
to
you.
And
he
didn't
have
to
call
me
back.
And
I
remember,
and
so
I
said,
so
that
was
like
a
Friday.
And
then
on
Monday,
he
was
supposed
to
call
me
back.
And
I
remember
standing
outside
of
Dickens
on
Friday
night.
And
I
remember
telling
my
sponsor,
you
know,
I
don't
think
I'm
an
alcoholic.
And
the
look
on
her
face
after
all
this
time
we
had
been
working,
she
was,
where
is
this
coming
from?
And
I
said,
well,
you
know,
by
the
way,
I
called
Rich
and
I
think
she
goes,
oh,
you
don't
want
to
make
the
amends.
And
she
was
right.
I
was
terrified.
So
what
way
to
get
out
of
making
amends
is
you're
not
an
alcoholic
anymore?
And
she
said,
nice
try,
but
I
don't
think
so.
I've
heard
your
story.
And
so
I
will
tell
you
that
man
called
me
on
Monday.
And
this
was
before
cell
phone.
So
he
had
to
call
me
at
the
office.
And
I
had
a
little
CHEAT
SHEET
of
the
things
that
I
had
done
because
I
had
to,
you
know,
and
he
did
not
jump
up
and
down.
He
just
said,
this
is
rich,
what
do
you
want?
And
I
told
him
exactly
what
I
was
sorry.
I
said
I
was
so
sorry
for
how
I
had
embarrassed
him
and
his
family
at
his
sister's
wedding.
I
was
so
sorry
that
I
was
so
needy
and
so
dependent
upon
him.
I
was
so
sorry
for
everything
I
had
done
to
hurt
him,
how
he
was
not
in
charge
of
my
life
or
my
emotional
needs,
you
know?
And
he
just
was
quiet
on
the
phone.
He
didn't
jump
up
and
down.
He
didn't
say,
oh,
good
for
you.
And
then
he
said,
are
you
done?
I
said
yes.
And
he
hung
up.
And
I'm
going
to
tell
you
again,
just
like
that
woman,
he
gave
me
the
greatest
gift
because
he
didn't
have
to
call
me,
you
know,
and
I
was
free.
I
think
that
is
the
first
time,
after
all
the
work
I
had
done,
that
I
really
felt
free
because
I
knew
now
if
I
ever
saw
him,
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
look
him
in
the
eye
and
be
OK.
I
had
nothing
more.
There's
a
line
in
the
big
book
around
the
amends
because
it
says
as
God's
people
we
stand
on
our
feet.
We
crawl
before
no
one
because
it's
not
about
me
groveling
and
saying
forgive
me
for
just
breathing
and
I'm
so
sorry.
That's
not
what
it's
about.
It's
about
acknowledging
the
hurt
I
did
to
you
and
about
if
I
can
rectify
it,
I
will.
But
I
couldn't
rectify
this.
I
couldn't
bring
back
the
wedding
and
redo
it.
I
couldn't
do
any
of
that.
But
I
could
say,
I'm
so
sorry
I
did
that.
And
I
don't
call
him
one
day
at
a
time,
you
know?
And
so
that's
why
it
says,
I
love
that
line
because
it
says
we
stand
on
our
feet.
We
crawl
before
no
one.
Does
that
answer
your
question?
OK.
Thank
you
for
asking.
Yes,
ma'am,
That's
a
great
question
because
I
remember
I
must
have
been
four
months.
So
we're
sitting
at
Studio
12,
and
for
the
first
time
I
heard
this
was
about
God.
For
the
first
time
I
heard
that
AA
was
a
spiritual
program.
And
I
still
remember
sitting
straight
up
in
my
chair
and
thinking,
Oh
my
God,
I've
joined
a
cult,
you
know?
But
all
I
knew
was
that
for
four
months
I
had
been
okay
and
I
hadn't
come
home
drunk
and
I
hadn't
had.
One
of
the
things
I
first
physically
noticed
when
I
first
got
sober
was
in
the
shower
and
looking
down
and
realizing
all
those
bruises
were
gone.
That
was
really
my
first
awakening
that
there
was
something
different
here.
Because
I
guess
when
you're
drunk
and
you're
passed
out
and
you
got
to
crawl
from
one
place
to
the
other,
you're
going
to
hit
a
lot
of
things
on
your
way
there.
Just
like
the
car,
you
know,
got
real
round
after
time.
So
at
nine
months,
yeah,
I
really
did
not
have
a
God.
I
didn't
know
if
I
believed
in
a
God.
And
I
will
tell
you,
I
was
three
years
sober
and
I
was,
no,
I
wasn't
three
years
sober
at
the
time.
What
happened
was
that
I
had
started
to
work
with
that
sponsor
and
when
we
came
to,
you
know,
you
got
to
come,
came
to
believe,
you
know,
I
have
to
find
something.
What
am
I
turning
my
will
in
my
life
over
to?
You
know,
And
I
had
to
really
think
about
that
because
I
did
not
grow
in
a
family
that
had
any
religious
bent.
In
fact,
if
anything,
religion
was
for
fools
and
children,
you
know,
it
was
not
something
that
was
encouraged.
It
was
pull
yourself
up
from
your
own
bootstraps.
So
this
was
a
very,
very
difficult
thing
to
conceive
of.
And
so
had
to
vary
a
lot
of
long
talks
with
my
sponsor.
And
we
talked
about
I
couldn't
believe,
you
know,
in
a
Santa
Claus
God,
and
I
couldn't
believe
in
a
God
in
a
cloud.
And
I
didn't
think
God
had
a
gender.
And
I,
you
know
what
didn't
I,
you
know,
what
couldn't
I
believe
in?
So
we
looked
at
all
that,
and
I
had
to
throw
it
away
because
choose
your
own
conception.
And
she
shared
with
me
about
how
she
had
come
to
her
own
understanding
of
a
God,
and
she
had
done
that.
And
she
had
been
raised
Catholic.
And
what
she
realized
one
day
was
that
there
were
so
many
things
she
labeled
she
didn't
believe
in.
But
when
she
sat
in
the
room
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
she
looked
around
at
all
the
sober
people
in
that
room,
and
all
of
them
were
saying
that
because
of
a
power
greater
than
themselves,
they
were
sober
and
happy.
She
thought,
how
can
I
deny
that?
And
so
I
heard
her
say
that.
And
so
I
started
with
just
a
very
big,
there's
something
going
on
here.
And
as
long
as
I'm
coming
here,
I'm
comfortable.
So
I
was
willing
to
turn
my
will
in
my
life
over
to
it.
And
what
I
knew
was
that
in
the
years
that
I
had
been
sober,
I
had
not
hindered
a
lot
of
those
humiliations.
And
every
time
I
had
done
what
you
had
told
me
to
do
and
turn
it
over
to
something
I
don't
believe
in,
it
had
always
worked
out.
So
I
began
really
through
the,
well,
my
way
isn't
working.
I'm
doing
this.
I
may
not
believe
it,
but
it
seems
to
be
working.
And
I
can
tell
you
it
was
about
that
man
that
I
told
you
living
amends
to
my
father
through
who
had
gotten
very
ill.
He
died
when
I
had
about
four
and
a
half
five
years
sober.
And
I
remember
I
went
to
his
funeral,
which
is
at
his
partner's
house.
And
I,
I
looked
at
a
picture
of
him
on
his
dresser
and
I
started
to
cry.
And
I
realized
that
had
been
God
the
whole
time
that
God
had
put
that
still
gives
me
this
one.
God
had
put
that
man
in
my
life.
And
that
was
God
right
there
who
would
just
love
me
and
love
me
just,
you
know,
the
way
I
was,
you
know,
and
I
started
to
look
around
and
I
realized
that
the
God
was
all
around
me,
you
know,
and
little
things.
And
I
started
to
recognize
this.
Like
I
tell
the
women
I
sponsor.
Look
around
yourself
every
day
and
try
to
find
an
evidence
of
God.
It's
there,
It's
there,
but
you
got
to
look
for
it.
It's
the
quiet
moments,
it's
the
phone
call
when
you
least
expect
it.
You
know,
it's,
it's
the
the
paycheck
that
you
weren't
expecting
yet.
You
know,
it's
the,
I
remember
sitting
on
AI
was
nine
months
over
and
I'm
sitting
on
a
coffee
shop,
you
know,
and
saying,
Oh
my
God,
if
this
is
the
best
job
I
ever
get,
it's
OK.
Because
you
see,
I've
been
worrying
about
the
job
and
all
of
a
sudden,
2
weeks
later
I'm
out
of
that
job.
And
I'm
in
another
one,
you
know,
and
I
thought,
Oh
my
God,
that
was
God,
you
know,
and
God
doesn't
always
give
me
what
I
want,
but
God
gives
me
everything
I
need.
And
that
is
where
my
relationship
with
God
is
today
because
at
15,
I
fell
apart.
I've
had
a
couple
of
big
hard
times
in
sobriety.
At
15,
I
hit
a
really
big
wall
in
at
20,
I
hit
a
really
big
wall.
And
the
one
at
15
was
about
a
Santa
Claus.
God.
I
was
sponsoring
a
lot
of
women
and
they
were
all
getting
married
and
having
babies
except
for
me.
And
I
was
getting
resentful
and
I
was
getting
angry.
And
a
friend
of
ours,
Julie
C,
was
used
to
always
say,
what
do
you
mean
2
newcomers
in
a
panel
doesn't
equal
him.
You
know?
And
I
was
getting
really
mad
because
where's
mine?
I've
been
doing
this
deal.
And
they're,
they're
not
doing
it
as
much
as
I
am
and
they're
getting
what
I
want.
And
I
started
to
get
mad
and
mad.
And
then
what
happened
was
I
got
fired
by
about
three
women
in
a
row.
And
rightly
so,
you
know,
rightly
so.
And
what
happened
was
I
had
to
leave
and
I
talked
this
over
with
my
sponsor.
I
had
to
leave
those
meetings
because
you
see,
I
was
starting
to
believe
my
own
BS
and
I
had
to
go
and
hear
the
music
of
a
a
again.
I
had
to
go
be
one
of
many
again.
And
So
what
happens?
I
started
to
go
out
to
meetings
by
my
house,
you
know,
and
I
started
to
just
do
everything
you
would
taught
me
to
do.
And
I
did
a
lot
of
inventories
and
I
realized
that
I
had
a
Santa
Claus
gone
and
I
had
to
come
to
it.
Just
God
is,
you
know,
and
God
has
always
given
me
everything
I
need.
It
may
not
be
what
I
want,
but
always
everything
I
need.
And,
you
know,
Pat
always
says
you're,
you're
trying
to
paint
this
picture
over
here.
It's
an
Etch
A
Sketch.
And
God
is
trying
to
paint
this
Picasso
over
here.
You
know,
you
got
to
let
go
of
this
and
let
God,
you
know,
just
run
the
show.
So
my
spirituality
and
my
belief
in
God
is
stronger
than
it's
ever
been.
I
cannot
define
it,
but
I
know
that
it's
not
about
stuff.
What
it
is,
is
about
peace
and
comfort
and
that
every
day,
as
long
as
I
trust
this
power,
this
God,
the
right
people,
the
right
situations,
just
the
right
things
will
happen
so
that
I
can
be
comfortable
and
I
don't
have
to
drink
a
day
at
a
time.
And
it
continues
to
grow.
It
is
not
ending.
And
I
think
that's
where
I
want
to
go.
A
friend
of
ours,
Rhonda,
says
I'm
here
for
the
long
haul.
And
I
thought,
you
know,
that
you
just
stopped
growing
after
you
got
about
20.
Well,
no,
no,
you
got
to
keep
growing.
And
so
my,
my,
I'm
doing
more
prayer
and
meditation
and
I'm
really
seeking
knowledge
of
God.
Knowledge
of
God.
My
sponsor
used
to
say
your
prayer
has
always
help
me,
help
me,
help
me.
I
said,
well,
yeah,
help
me.
She
goes,
yeah,
but
it's
help
me,
help
me,
help
me
get
my
way
thinking.
Well,
yeah,
you
know,
she
goes.
So
now
my
prayer
is
help
me
be
of
service
because
I
do
find
when
I'm
being
of
service
and
I'm
not
thinking
about
me
and
I'm
thinking
about
you,
I
am
so
much
happier.
And
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'm
a
comfortable
woman.
And
that's
really
all
I
wanted.
So
does
that
help
explain?
Thank
you.
Other
questions?
Yes,
Sir.
Ram,
Sir.
Well,
I
think
Manny
can
answer
that
because
I
was
just
talking
to
him
about
thinking,
you
know,
I've
been,
I've
been
privileged
to
speak
about
once
a
month
for
about
the
last
year
and
a
half
because
she's
in
between.
I'm
thinking
about
I'm
going
to
move
because
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I
want
to
go
back
to
Seattle.
It's
going
to
be
better
there,
you
know,
or
a
girl
comes
in
my
life
and
then
I
just
need
to
get
her
through
the
steps
and
then
you
know
what?
And
then
I'm
out
of
here.
As
soon
as
I
get
her
through
the
steps,
I'm
out
of
here
because
you
know
what
it
is?
I'm
always
thinking
there's
something
greener
on
the
other
side.
I'm
always
thinking
my
idea
myself
will
myself
knowledge,
you
know,
where's
God
and
all
that?
There
is
no
God.
You
know,
when
I'm
thinking
that,
I'm
thinking
that
I
this
illusions
that
somehow
it's
going
to
be
better
there
somehow,
you
know,
So
again,
a
day
at
a
time.
I
haven't
moved,
but
yes,
I
have
them
today.
And
normally
I'm
scared
about
something.
Normally
there's
fear.
I
mean,
fear
drives
my
life.
It
says
100
forms
of
fear.
You
know,
fear
has
really
been
a
decision
maker
on
that.
Those
inventories
really
showed
me
how
much
fear
has
motivated
most
of
my
decisions
all
through
my
life
into
sobriety.
So
I
don't
move
a
day
at
a
time
today,
and
that
doesn't
mean
I
won't
move
someday,
but
I
don't
do
it
when
I'm
thinking
like
that.
What
I
do
know
today
is
I'm
long
enough
sober
that
you
know
what?
Today
is
not
the
day
to
make
the
decision.
And
like
I
said,
I
think
I
was
just
looking
for
something
to
fix
it,
something
to
fill
it,
something
where
I
didn't
have
to
look
at
myself,
something
where
I
didn't
have
to,
you
know,
do
the
work,
you
know,
I
could
start
over
again.
And
and
yet
I
got
to
tell
you,
I
on
some
levels,
like
I
talked
about
history,
I
can't
imagine
on
some
levels
leaving
here.
I've
been
here
a
very
long
time
and
I
can't
imagine
leaving
a
lot
of
the
people
that
I
do
have
a
chance
to
see.
So
yeah,
it
is
there.
I
mean,
I
can
tell
you,
you
know,
if
I
don't
do
what
I'm
supposed
to
be
doing,
that
old
behavior
and
old
thinking
comes
back
immediately.
Well,
not
immediately,
but
it,
it
takes
is
it?
It
doesn't
take
long
to
creep
back.
You
know,
I
do
go
to
like,
I
try
to
go
to
three
meetings
a
week.
You
know,
I'm
active
in
two
of
them.
I
and
I
sponsor.
And
what
I
know
is
I,
I
don't
do
what
you
tell
me
to
do.
If
I
don't
do
that,
continue
that
routine
and
I
start
to
slip
away,
the
thinking
comes
back,
where's
mine?
I'm
getting
resentful,
disgruntled.
Then
my
best
solutions
come
back,
like
to
move,
you
know,
quit
your
job.
That
would
be
a
good
one.
Yeah.
Quit
your
job,
you
know,
And
so
I
just
know
that
that's
the
crazy
thinking.
And
that's
why
I
need
to
stay
close
to
you
and
do
give
away
what
you've
given
me
and
continue
to
do
these
steps.
Does
does
that
answer
OK?
Thank
you.
Yes,
Sir.
I'm
sorry.
The,
the
question
is
who
noticed?
I'm
not
sure
I
can
answer
that
question.
I
don't
know
who
who
noticed.
You
can't
stay
sober
on
a
unless
you
help
others.
I
do
know
that
our
12
steps
says,
you
know,
we
have
to
practice
these
principles
and
all
our
affairs
and
help
another,
you
know,
help
another,
you
know,
I
help
other
Alcoholics
and
I
know
that
for
me,
it's
kind
of
like
a
teacher
if
I
can't
give
it
away.
And
I
have
found
actually,
and
that's
another
thing
where
God
came
from
and
where
the
program
became
mine,
where
you
went
from
my
head
to
the
very
fabric
of
being
was
through
sponsorship.
And
by
having
to
explain
how
I
did
these
steps,
how
I
have
come
to
a
knowledge
of
a
power
greater
than
myself,
having
to
try
to
pass
on
to
them
what
they
in
a
way
they
can
understand
that
there
are
times
I'd
say
to
myself,
do
you
really
believe
that?
And
I'd
say
no,
and
I'd
have
to
retract
it,
you
know,
because
I
was
telling,
you
know,
again,
my
sponsor
says
you're
going
to
you're
going
to
say
things
you
may
not
believe.
I
don't.
She
didn't
agree
with
everything
her
sponsor
said.
She
goes,
but
you're
going
to
have
the
chance
to
ask
yourself,
do
you
or
not?
So
then
I
found
myself
getting
more
honest
and
telling
them
really
what
I
do
believe.
And
I
do
believe.
So
by
giving
to
them,
all
of
a
sudden
I'm
finding
that
I'm
staying
sober
and
I'm
comfortable.
And
I
do
know
that
it's
not
about
me
when
I'm
given
to
somebody
else.
And
it
doesn't
mean
just
Alcoholics.
It
means
at
work,
it
means
you
know
who's
ever
the
person,
the
poor
sales
clerk
who's
in
front
of
me.
And
I'm
really
irritated
about
something,
and
I'm
angry
that
I
don't
take
it
out
on
them
because
they're
an
easy
target,
you
know,
and
because
that's
a
lot
of
kind
of
stuff
behavior
I
used
to
do.
So
it's
real
critical.
It's
kind
of
the
full
circle.
Thank
you
for
asking
last
question.
Yes,
Sir.
Thank
you.
Wow.
You
know,
it's
funny,
I
was
talking
to
somebody,
oh,
what's
better
about
a
a,
you
know,
29
years
later
from
when
I
got
here
versus
now?
And
what's
worse
and
is
that
the
question,
what
could
you
be
doing
better?
What
could
we
be
doing
better?
Well,
personally,
I
think
Los
Angeles,
I
think
Southern
California
a
does
it
great.
I
think
we
really,
I
think
the
meetings
in
Los
Angeles
just
pull
people
in
and
I
think
that's
so
great
and
let
them
be
here.
You
know,
for
me,
the
fellowship
is,
I
don't
know
if
it's
because
I'm
older
or
just
life
is
harder
and
traffic
is
harder.
You
know,
I
don't
do
as
much
fellowship
after
work
or
after
the
meeting
anymore.
I
can't,
I
got
to
get
home
because
I
get
up
at
4:30,
you
know,
but
that
doesn't
mean
there's
not
fellowship
going
on
there.
I
think
it
really
depends
upon
the
meeting.
I
happen
to
belong
to
meetings
and
go
to
meetings
where
they're
strong
fellowship,
they're
strong,
you
know,
sobriety
and
really
pulling
in
the
newcomer
and
including
them
in
the
commitments.
And
I,
and
I
think
I
do
find
the
same
A,
a,
there
are
meetings,
there's
a
lot
of
different
meetings
here
all
over.
Some
I
won't
go
back
to
because
I
don't,
but
they're
autonomous.
And
that's
the
great
thing
about
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
each
group
is
autonomous,
you
know,
as
long
as
it
doesn't
interfere
with
the
group
as
a
whole.
And
so
there
are
meetings,
I
wouldn't
go
back
because
they
don't
speak
to
me.
But
how
do
I
know
that
that
meeting
won't
keep
somebody
here
long
enough
for
them
to
finally
realize,
wake
up,
you
know
what?
I'm
not
quite
hearing
the
solution
anymore.
But
because
that
meeting
allowed
them
to
do
whatever
it
is
they
were
going
to
do
long
enough
to
say,
I
want
whatever
it
is
that
group
over
there
is
doing.
So,
you
know,
I
don't
really
know.
I
think
as
long
as
we
hold
true
to
these
traditions,
which
to
me,
you
know,
a
lot
of
the
traditions
can
be
broken
at
the
public
level.
You
know,
I
think
we
really
need
to
hold
true
to,
you
know,
understanding
those
traditions.
And
I
start
to
learn
more
about
the
traditions
when
I
was
about
20
and
started
going
to
that.
I
think
that
is
our
responsibility.
I
think
it
is
our
responsibility
to
help
the
newcomer
get
to
a
meeting.
I
think
it
is
our
responsibility
to
tell
the
newcomer
the
truth
and
not
coddle
them.
And
by
that
I
mean,
you
know
what,
just
tell
them
the
nature
of
their
disease,
that
it's
not
OK.
You
don't
have
to
go
out.
That's
not
you
don't
have
to.
You
can
have
one
sobriety
date,
you
know,
and
it
doesn't
mean
you're
bad
if
you
do.
Because
thank
God
there
are
people
who
have
struggled
coming
in
and
out,
in
and
out.
And
thank
God
we
have
those
stories
to
say
it's
possible,
but
it's
also
possible
to
have
one.
So
you
know
what
I
feel
of
personal,
personal
importance
that
I
need
to
hold
true
to
the
traditions
in
my
meeting.
And
that
means,
you
know,
again,
if
I
see
someone
personal,
this
is
personal
opinion,
texting
during
a
meeting,
I
say,
you
know
what?
I
put
my
hand
on
them.
Say
please.
You
know,
this
is
a
meeting
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
It's
distracting
to
me.
And
I'm
not
sure
you
hear
the
message,
you
know
what
I'm
saying?
Because
again,
it's
about
respect
for
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
You
know,
if
I
hear
someone
speaking
in
a
meeting
while
somebody's
talking,
you
know,
well,
you
know,
am
I
a
little
bit
of
a
Nazi
secretary
right
now
at
my
women's
meeting?
But
you
know
what?
It,
you
know,
when
we
have
announcements,
that's
not
a
call,
that's
not
a
license,
that's
not
a
respect
for
Alcoholics
Anonymous
if
everyone's
talking
doing
it.
So,
you
know,
it's
kind
of
like,
I
believe
our
responsibility
to
pass
on
the
kind
of
respect
for
Alcoholics
Anonymous
that
I
got.
Some
people
like
it
and
I'm
sure
I'm
on
some
people's
resentment
list,
but
I
don't
care
because
I
want
this
program
to
be
the
way
I
came
in.
And
so
for
people
like
you
who
asked
those
kinds
of
questions,
I
think
as
long
as
we're
passing
the
John
and
the
doors
are
open
and
you
got
greeters
and
you
got
coffee
and
you
got
a
speaker,
you
know
what?
That's
the
AAA
I
came
into.
Thank
you
for
asking.