AA myths and misconceptions at the Unity and Service conference in Concord, CA
And
now
please
help
me
welcome
our
main
speaker
for
this
evening,
Bill
yen
from
Buford,
GA.
On
the
topic
of
AA
myths
and
misconceptions,
I
I'm
Billy.
I'm
an
alcoholic.
My
sobriety
is
January
the
5th
of
1990.
My
Home
group
is
the
early
morning
AA
literature
discussion
group
meets
at
the
NABA
Club
7:30
every
morning.
Please
if
you're
ever
in
town,
come
by.
It's
a
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
having
me
here.
I
was
here
last
year.
Look
forward
to
coming
back.
It's
it's
weird,
you
know,
as
you
get
older
and
you
stay
in
a
a
longer
I,
I
hosted
an
event
this
week
at
a
winery.
It's
crazy.
My
life,
you
know,
like
I
was
in
Napa
all
week.
I
with
a
bunch
of
other
people
in
my
industry
and
you
know,
it's,
it's
so
hard
to
think
back
about,
you
know,
what
can
you
really
pull
off
in
life
when
you're
smoking
cigarettes
somebody
already
smoked
and
put
out,
when
you're
eating
food
somebody
already
ate
and
pushed
outside?
I
mean,
it's
so
hard
to
explain
to
people,
you
know,
the
life
that
we're
given
here.
It's
interesting.
I'll
tell
you
quickly
that
last
year
I
was
a
trustee.
This
year
I'm
not
a
trustee.
I'm
a
past
trustee,
which
is
awesome.
And
I've
embraced
that
role.
I've
embraced
it.
But
you
know,
life's
funny
and
God
can
be
do
the
right
things
to
humble
you.
But
you
know,
last
about
a
year
ago,
I
guess
almost
a
year
ago,
I
took
a
new
position
at
my
company.
And
when
I
took
this
position,
I
had
to
sit
down
with
somebody
in
HR
and
they
basically
reviewed
all
the
disasters
that
I
just
inherited.
That
worked
for
me.
You
know,
they
had
like
a
stack
of
files
and
they
just
gave
me
the
five
minute
lowdown
on
some
problems.
And
one
of
the
people
that
they
gave
me
the
lowdown
on
sounded
awfully
like
myself,
sounded
very,
the,
the
story
sounded
very,
very
familiar.
And,
and
then
lo
and
behold,
I'm
in
Boston.
I'm
meeting
like
12
other
people
that
I
work
with
and
we
all
meet
at
this
steakhouse
the
night
before
to
get
ready
for
our
meeting.
And
I
noticed
that
he's
drinking
and
I'm
a
big
fan
of
to
the
employer.
I
mean,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
greatest
chapters
in
the
big
book,
one
of
the
greatest
chapters
not
only
about
how
to
be
an
employer,
but
actually
how
to
be
a
sponsor.
If
you
follow
what's
in
that,
you
will
be
on
track.
But
anyway,
he's
drinking
and
I'm
thinking,
oh,
this
is
not
good.
But
what's
funny
is
that
a
couple
of
weeks
later,
through
some
circumstances,
I
heard
that
he
was
back
on
track
and
doing
well.
And
so
I
hadn't
run
into
him
for
a
while,
although
technically
he
reports
to
me.
But
anyway,
I
was
in
Chicago
and
I
met
another
15
people
for
work
to
get
ready
for
a
big
meeting
the
next
day.
And
as
I
was
coming
out
of
the
men's
room,
I
ran
into
this
guy.
Now,
everybody
knows.
Most
people
know
I
don't
drink,
few
know
I'm
a
member
of
the
club.
But
it's
funny,
you
know,
God
is
funny
because
he
stopped
me
as
I
was
coming
out
of
the
men's
room
and
wanted
to
have
a
quick
discussion
with
me.
And
he's
a
very
bright,
educated,
successful
35
year
old
way
past
where
I
was
at
35.
And,
you
know,
he
said
to
me,
he
said,
you
know,
I
just
want
you
to
know
I
got
110
days
for
the
first
time.
I
have
a
Home
group.
I
have
a
sponsor.
I
actually
have
a
service
commitment.
And
then
he
goes,
you
probably
don't
do
any
of
that
stuff
anymore.
And
I'm
standing
there,
like
standing
in
the
hallway
of
the
bathroom,
you
know,
leading
out
to
the
restaurant.
And
all
you
can
do
is
chuckle
to
yourself,
right?
You
can
just
chuckle.
I
was
at
a
conference,
I
don't
know,
a
month
and
a
half
ago,
and
I
happen
to
be
sitting
at
a
table
outside,
minding
my
own
business,
smoking
a
cigar,
enjoying
the
solitude.
And
a
couple
of
guys
sat
down
pretty
close
by.
And
I
didn't
know
them,
They
didn't
know
me.
And
they
started
talking
about
service
and
they
started
talking
about
the
service
manual
and
they
started
talking
about
the
concepts.
And
I'm
just
listening
to
all
this
and
one
thing
led
to
another
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
was
in
the
conversation
a
little
bit,
but
it
was
very
funny
because
when
I
when
we
all
left
to
go
back
inside,
the
one
guy
said
to
me,
do
you
have
a
service
manual?
Would
you
like
one?
And
I
just
said
to
my,
I
just
laughed
to
myself,
all
right,
God,
like
it's
exactly
where
I
needed
to
be.
I
have
quite
an
interesting
topic
tonight
and
a
lot
of
directions
I
could
go.
A
lot.
This
is
not
an
audience
of
archivists
and
historians.
A
few,
but
not
all.
If
it
was
an
audience
of
archivists
and
historians,
I
would
probably
be
debating
very
finite
issues
in
the
history
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
those
myths.
You
know
is
a
birthday,
right?
How
many
people
really
wrote
the
big
book?
I
mean,
I
could
go
on
and
on,
but
I
had
decided
a
couple
of
months
ago
that
I
wanted
to
be
effective.
If
you've
any
hurt,
I
mean,
that
word
is
a
word
we
don't
use
a
lot
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
But
if
you
get
a
couple
of
TOMI
tapes,
you
probably
can't
go
7
minutes
into
a
tape
without
seeing
hearing
the
first
effective
and
then
hearing
effective
used
many
times.
Like
there's
a
lot
of
things
we
do
that
are
not
effective.
That's
the
truth.
That's
just
the
truth.
And
so
when
I
thought
about
this
topic,
how
do
you
be
effective
to
really
talk
about
some
myths
and
misconceptions
that
I
see
out
there
that
really
affect
our
lives
as
active
members
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
active
members
of
home
groups
and
things
that
affect
our
fellowship
as
a
whole.
And
so
I
asked
some
other
people,
I
thought
about
it
myself.
I
mean,
you
can
see
I
have
quite
a
list
of
myths
and
misconceptions
that
I
believe
are
out
there.
And
you
know,
the
greatest
thing
you
know,
any
speaker
can
really
do
is
piss
off
somebody
in
the
audience
because
there's
nothing
worse
than
everybody
just
nodding
the
head
and
agreeing.
Because
then
we
become
just
some
cult.
And
we
all
think
the
same
way.
The
best
way
to
get
somebody
to
read
our
literature
is
to
say
something
that
they
don't
agree
with
and
let
them
start
looking
for
themselves.
I
tell
people
all
the
time
my
job
when
someone
calls
me
with
a
question
is
not
to
give
them
an
answer.
Usually
it's
more
to
tell
them
where
they
can
find
their
own
answer.
My
job
as
a
service
sponsor
is
not
to
have
my
own
political
party
and
Alcoholics
Anonymous
my
job.
In
fact,
if
I
want
to
know
I
did
my
job
right,
than
my
service
fonsees
should
be
willing
and
able
to
vote
against
me,
even
if
we're
sitting
in
the
same
vote.
That's
a
sign
that
I
did
my
job.
That's
a
sign
that
they
did
all
their
homework.
And
believe
it
or
not,
they
came
to
a
different
conclusion
than
me.
We
should
celebrate
that
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
The
day
that
that
stops
happening,
we
don't
have
what
we
have
today.
And
so
I
have
my
list
of
myths
and
misconceptions
that
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
a
little
bit.
But
the
first
one
that
I
have
to
talk
about
that
I'll
just
mention
quickly.
Maybe
one
of
the
greatest
myths
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
that
a,
A
was
perfect
in
the
beginning.
If
there
was
ever
a
greatest
myth,
it's
that
from
June
10th,
1935,
up
until
most
of
the
founders
and
old
timers
died,
AA
was
perfect
and
they
had
no
problems.
I
mean,
I
could
put
that
right
along
with
the
myth
that
people
used
highlighters
in
1937,
right?
It's
not
true,
right?
I
mean,
there
were
no
highlighters.
There
was
no
book.
So
when
I
hear
people
say
things
or
when
I
hear
people
say
I
want
what
the
first
hundred
had,
well,
which
one
of
the
first
100?
Because
that's
a
pretty
iffy
proposition.
You
know,
you
want
really
the
21
or
I'll
argue
22
who
stayed
sober
until
the
book
actually
was
published
or
you
want
some
of
the
others
who
had
tragic
consequences.
Because
if
you're
believing
that
just
because
you
heard
somebody
say
I
want
the
program
the
first
hundred
had
and
you're
believing
that
the
1st
100
stayed
sober
for
the
rest
of
their
lives.
I
just
want
to
point
you,
you
might
want
to
do
some
research
because
that
is
absolutely
not
true.
And
a
A
was
not
perfect.
There
is
a
term
that
drives
me
crazy
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
it's
called
Contemporary
A.
A
When
people
say
I
can't
stand
contemporary
A
well,
I
have
bad
news
for
them.
Contemporary
AA
has
existed
since
June
10th
of
1935.
There
has
always
been
division
and
divisiveness
inside
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
To
say
that
it's
gotten
worse.
So
this
whole
belief
that
things
were
perfect
is
such
a
myth.
But
I
really
want
to
get
into
some
useful
ones
that
I
think
are
useful
in
today's
world
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Probably
one
of
the
things
that
is
quoted
most
often
that
is
really
not
in
our
literature,
that
it
seems
newcomers
learn
within
90
days
and
throw
it
out
there,
is
that
all
you
need
is
a
resentment
in
a
coffee
pot
to
start
a
group.
OK,
If
ever
something
has
caused
more
damage
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
our
unity
as
a
fellowship
in
society,
it
is
that
ridiculous
quote.
I
would
be
the
first
person
to
tell
anybody
they
have
a
right
to
start
their
own
Home
group
if,
and
it's
a
big
if,
they're
really
starting
a
Home
group
and
not
a
meeting.
If
they're
starting
a
group
that's
going
to
be
connected
to
the
rest
of
AA,
if
they're
starting
a
group
that's
really
going
to
be
a
Home
group,
then
I
couldn't
jump.
I
couldn't
be
more
happy
for
them.
But
we
have
all
these
meetings
where
people
took
coffee
pots
and
resentments
and
they're
nothing
more
than
one
hour
gatherings.
That's
it.
There
is
nothing
else
there.
I
mean,
some
old
speaker
said
it
better
than
I
did.
You
know,
you
judge
the
quality.
And
I'm
not
going
to
debate
any
prayers
tonight.
Whatever
prayer
you
use,
God
bless
you.
If
you
don't
believe
in
God,
it
doesn't
even
matter.
I'm
not
going
to
argue.
But
in
the
old
days
was
very
common
in
most
areas
that
meetings
started
with
the
Serenity
Prayer
and
ended
with
the
Lord's
Prayer.
So
I'm
just
going
to
work
off
that
basis.
But
you
know,
there's
a
couple
of
great
old
speakers
that
used
to
say
all
the
time,
you
can
judge
the
quality
of
a
meeting
by
what
happens
between
the
Serenity
Prayer
and
the
Lord's
Prayer,
but
you
cannot
judge
the
quality
of
a
group
by
that.
The
quality
of
a
group
gets
judged
by
what
happens
between
the
Lord's
Prayer
and
then
next
time
they
say
the
Serenity
Prayer
to
start
that
meeting.
What
happens
when
they're
not
meeting?
What
are
they
doing
as
active
members
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
between
when
their
meeting
ends
and
when
their
meeting
starts?
Are
they
connected
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
as
a
whole?
Are
they
going
into
detoxes
or
panels
or
whatever
you
call
them?
Are
they
involved
in
a
group?
Are
they
involved
in
general
service?
Does
the
group
actually
care
about
each
other?
Does
the
group
actually
fellowship
together?
That's
the
real
sign
of
a
Home
group
and
this
resentment
and
coffee
pot.
I
mean,
and
I
know
it's
hard
for
people
that
are
not
members
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
to
understand
that
concept,
but
we
have
way,
way
too
many
meetings.
That's
my
humble
opinion
and
all
it
does,
you
know,
you
can
talk
about
the
spiritual
breakdown.
You
can
say
finances
aren't
spiritual,
but
then
you'd
have
to
debate
me
on
the
7th
tradition.
And
the
7th
tradition
tells
me
that
there
is
a
spiritual
aspect
to
money
and
finances.
And
the
truth
is,
no
wonder
A
A
had
a
contribution
problem.
I
mean,
you
can't
keep
dividing
and
dividing
and
dividing
and
be
self
supporting.
It's
impossible.
It
is
mathematically
impossible.
The
cost
of
milk,
the
cost
of
rent,
the
cost
of
coffee,
the
cost
of
sending
your
GSR
to
Prosser
or
wherever
they
go,
the
cost
of
sending
them
to
assemblies.
Once
you
divide
a
group,
you
just
multiply
by
two,
sometimes
3,
and
that
is
not
productive
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
as
a
whole.
I
mean,
all
you
have
to
do
is
look
at
a
Grapevine
or
a
box.
459
from
19.
I'm
just
going
to
throw
out
80,
So
if
you
have
a
chance,
take
a
look
at
1:00,
take
a
look
at
the
calendar
and
take
a
look
at
how
many
conferences
and
conventions
there
are.
And
then
look
at
today.
Today
people
have
to
base
their
budgets,
their
disposable
AA
income
on
which
ones
they
can
go
to
and
which
ones
they
can't.
No
different
than
all
these
groups
we
have.
How
can
we
possibly
be
self
supporting
when
I
mean,
it's
so
alcoholic,
so
alcoholic.
And
you
know,
because
if
a
new
member
or
even
a
member
sober
a
long
time
sits
down
with
someone
that's
been
in
a
a
long
time
and
tells
them
that
they're
in
financial
ruin,
They
have
no
money
left
in
the
bank,
got
a
bunch
of
credit
cards
maxed
out
behind
on
rent,
three
months,
all
of
that.
Most
often
if
you
talk
to
a
A
members
who
have
sponsored
people,
it's
not
usually
that
complicated
a
problem.
Usually,
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
usually
if
you
get
into
the
details,
they
are
usually
spending
more
money
a
month
than
they
make
a
month.
That's
what
it
usually
comes
down
to.
It
is
not
anything
super
complicated.
It
is
just
that
the
amount
of
money
that
comes
in
is
less
than
the
required
money
to
go
out.
And
some
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
would
tell
that
person
part
of
being
sober
is
we
spend
less
than
we
make.
Actually,
we
kind
of
discount
it
by
20%
and
then
we
spend
that
because
we
save
for
hard
times
and
that's
just
part
of
being
sober.
And
I
don't
think
there's
anyone
here
who
to
argue.
Now
I'm
listen,
I've
been
homeless,
I've
had
money
problems,
so
I'm
not
talking
like,
but
I
think
most
of
us
would
agree
that
nobody
would
tell
that
person
to
keep
spending
more
than
they
make.
Nobody
would.
However,
when
you
get
a
bunch
of
Alcoholics
together
as
a
group,
whether
it's
a
Home
group,
A
district
and
assembly,
or
the
General
Service
Board
or
AOL
services,
something
happens
to
our
alcoholic
group
kind
of
scenario.
As
a
group,
we
forget
what
we
tell
our
sponsees.
We
convince
each
other
that
it's
OK
to
spend
more
money
than
we
make.
Groups
do
it,
districts
do
it.
The
last
time
I
checked,
almost
40%
of
the
areas
out
of
the
93
had
deficit
budgets.
How
is
that
possible?
How
is
it
possible
that
general
service
areas
are
able
to
convince
each
other
that
it
is
OK
to
spend
more
money
than
they
take
in?
How
is
it
possible
that
the
last
time
I
even
just
did
a
quick
study
there
was
still
15
areas
out
of
the
93
that
didn't
Expense
income.
Budget
income,
only
budgeted
expenses.
I
hate
to
get
a
little
technical
on
use
of
the
word
budget,
but
that's
not
a
budget,
that's
a
wish
list.
That's
that's
kind
of
like
having
three
credit
cards
and
just
saying,
well,
we
want
this
so
we're
going
to
take
it.
We
don't
know
what
money
we're
going
to
use
to
pay
for
it.
We're
going
to
do
it.
But
that
evil
and
corroding
threat
is
the
big
book
uses
all
comes
from
the
resentment
in
the
coffee
pot.
It
all
breeds
from
that
belief
now.
And
like
I
said,
there
are
times
to
create
a
new
group,
no
doubt
about
it.
But
you
have
to
ask
yourself,
are
you
creating
a
Home
group
or
you're
creating
a
meeting?
And
I
want
to
get
to
that
kind
of
next
myth
or
debate
that
we
have
in
a
a
all
the
time
meeting
makers
make
it
right.
God
knows,
will
that
stir
the
pot
in
certain
places,
right?
That'll
just
send
the
place
into
a
tizzy,
you
know,
And
if
you
have
certain
of
my
favorite
big
book
speakers
there,
they
will
just
be
the
first
to
jump
up
and
say
that
that
that
statement
meeting
makers
is
killing
people.
I'm
out
of
that
debate
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
Number
one,
I
don't
believe
that
it
means
just
go
to
meetings
and
don't
do
anything
else.
I
think
it
means
if
you're
brand
new,
spiritually
broken,
can't,
can't
even
read
more
than
one
paragraph
without
losing
concentration,
that
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
go
to
another
meeting
tomorrow.
I
believe
that's
what
it
means,
but
I've
started
to
not
to
say.
My
response
to
that
is
I
don't
know
about
that
because
I
don't
have
experience
with
that
because
what
I
know
is
that
home
groom
member,
Home
group
members
make
it.
That's
the
statement
that
I
know
is
true.
That's
the
statement
that
I
know
resonates
with
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
You
know,
I
was
talking
to
someone
before
the
meeting
and
tonight
and
you
know,
one
of
the
things,
you
know,
we
say
we
have
our
issues,
but
when
you
meet
people
and
other
fellowships,
when
they
see
some
of
the
real
active
home
groups
that
we
have,
sometimes
they
get
a
little
jealous.
I
mean,
sure,
you
can
work
the
steps
and
decide
to
leave
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
maybe
never
drink
again.
I
have
no
doubt
about
that.
But
are
you
giving
up
on
the
deal
you
made
with
God?
Are
you
deciding
that
you
have
no
responsibility
to
pass
this
on
to
the
people
who
were
here
when
it
was
passed
on
to
you?
I
mean,
how
can
you
tell
me
you
don't
need
a
Home
group?
All
you
have
to
do
is
work
the
steps.
But
that
sounds
awfully
selfish,
which
I
could
go
into
that
myth.
It's
a
selfish
program.
I
mean,
where
did
that
come
from?
Where
could
that
have
possibly
come
from?
I
don't.
I
try
to
think
sometimes,
who
made
that
up?
Is
it
a
selfless
program?
Of
course
it's
a
selfless
program,
but
it's
not
a
selfish
program.
In
fact,
we
know
if
you
care
about
yourself
more
than
others
more
than
50%
of
the
time,
chances
are
you'll
drink.
That's
just
what
we
know
because
it's
what
we
see.
We
are
people
who
are
so,
so
self-centered
that
are
very
lives
depend
upon
helping
others
and
doing
service.
You
can
become
the
perfect
big
book
thumper.
You
can
have
the
perfect
leather
bound
inventory
notebook.
You
can
have
the
perfect
ruler
based
columns.
You
can
have
all
of
that,
but
are
you
active
in
some
type
of
service?
Back
to
the
very
fellowship
that
saved
your
life.
Let's
see,
I
I
highlighted
the
ones
I
know
I
wanted
to
get
to.
So
I
think
next
I'm
gonna
go
to
promotion.
That
word
is
a
tricky
word
inside
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
it
seems
to
be
used
very
very
badly.
Just
my
opinion.
Want
to
cross
off
the
ones
I
got?
Um,
first
of
all,
let's
deal
with
the
first
part
of
that.
There's
no
such
thing
as
promotion
inside
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
OK,
so
when
you
go
to
a
district
meeting
or
an
area
meeting
or
an
intergroup
meeting
or
somewhere
else
and
somebody
says,
oh,
we
don't
promote,
well,
yeah.
But
inside
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
we
promote
the
hell
out
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
We
scream
from
the
roof
tops
and
let
people
know
about
our
area
events,
about
our
workshops,
about
ever
going
on
inside
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
We
want
a
A
members
to
know
about.
That's
not
the
type
of
promotion
that
they're
talking
about,
especially
in
the
long
form
of
the
traditions.
The
long
form
of
the
traditions
uses
a
couple
of
words
together,
like
sensational
advertising.
You
know
what
sensational
advertising
is?
That's
if
we
had
a
billboard
with
a
picture
of
a
car
crash
or
a
picture
of
somebody
in
a
hospital
with
all
kinds
of
lines
coming
out
of
them
and
a
doctor
with
paddles.
That
sensational
advertising.
I've
seen
some
of
the
greatest
examples
of
attraction.
Actually,
lately
I've
seen
one
area
that
started
to
put
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
whatever
that
saying
is.
You
know,
if
you
have
a
problem
with
drinking,
that's
your
business.
If
you
want
to
stop,
that's
ours.
Whatever
little
saying
you
use.
But
on
supermarket
carts,
how
awesome
is
that?
Everybody
gets
a
supermarket
cart
right
there.
I've
seen
it
on
the
side
of
buses.
How
awesome
is
that?
I've
seen
now
these
digital
boards
where
it's
even
cheaper
to
rent
space
because
they
can
flip
flop
them
and
you
can
only
pay
for
110th
of
the
time.
But
promotion
was
never
about
inside
our
fellowship.
Which
brings
me
to
an
interesting
point
about
promotion.
I
am
a
person
who,
to
my
core,
believes
in
these
traditions.
But
I
have
to
say
clearly,
I
don't
think
it's
impossible
to
believe
in
our
traditions
and
not
take
advantage
of
the
powerful
communication
tools
available
in
the
world
today.
You
can
be
both.
You
can
observe
all
12
traditions
and
take
advantage
of
the
communication
channels
in
the
world
today.
It's
just
a
little
tougher
when
you
apply
the
traditions.
But
the
traditions,
I'm
going
to
guess
a
lot
of
people
in
this
room
have
been
a
group
treasurer,
have
been
on
some
committee
where
money
is
involved.
Obviously
this
event,
but
anyone
who
has
held
an
event
or
held
a
position
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
what
we
all
know
is
the
traditions
don't
make
it
easier
to
do
something
or
to
put
something
on
or
to
hold
an
event.
They
actually
make
us
stop
and
think
it's
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
but
there's
supposed
to
be
that
way.
They're
supposed
to
be
speed
bumps,
like
you're
driving
down
a
street.
You're
supposed
to
roll
over
it
and
say,
oh,
wait
a
minute,
Whole
Foods
wants
to
donate
money
to
our
convention
or
wants
to
give
us
food.
Or
when
I'm
in
an
elevator
at
a
supermarket
and
I'm
going
up
to
the
parking
deck
and
the
elevator
is
decorated
with
all
the
organizations
that
that
supermarket
has
given
stuff
to,
and
one
of
them
says
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
I'm
like,
what?
Like
the
traditions
were
made
to
make
things
a
little
bit
slower
and
to
be
thoughtful
and
contemplative
about
what
are
we
doing
as
a
whole.
But
it
doesn't
mean
that
Facebook
is
bad
or
Twitter
is
bad
or
the
Internet
is
bad.
What's
bad
or
irresponsible,
I
would
go
so
far
to
say
is
if
we
as
a
fellowship
don't
help
new
people
on
how
to
do
it
responsibly,
but
we
seem
to
stay
away
from
that
and
we
seem
to
want
to
publish
in
paper.
It's
crazy.
If
you
are
online,
right,
and
you're
on
Facebook
and
you
want
to
know
if
something's
OK,
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
look
for
a
piece
of
paper.
I
think
you
want
to
go
to
AA
org
and
you're
going
to
hope
that
there
should
be
something
listed
there
that
says
Facebook
helpful
hints.
How
do
you
respect
your
own
11th
and
12th
tradition
and
also
take
advantage
of
this
wonderful
tool?
Now,
I'm
not
pro
a
con
Facebook,
just
using
an
example,
but
I
was
joking
around.
I,
I
was
talking
to
somebody
who's
been
around
a
while.
I
told
a
couple
of
people
at
dinner.
I'll
tell
you
how
long
he
was
around.
And
he
wasn't
a
member
of
the
Fellowship.
In
1941,
he
answered
an
ad
for
a
part-time
bookkeeper
for
a
publishing
company.
That
publishing
company
was
called
Works
Publishing.
Up
until
the
year
2000,
he
was
the
only
man
alive
who
had
been
all
50
general
service
conferences.
His
name
is
Dennis
Manders.
He
passed
away
a
few
years
ago.
I
had
the
honor
of
meeting
him.
He
was
He
spoke
at
the
50th
General
Service
Conference
for
a
few
minutes
and
he
had
a
me
and
him,
I
was
the
youngest
delegate
that
year
and
him
and
I
struck
up
a
relationship.
I
was
telling
the
people
at
dinner
because
at
one
point
he
looked
over
to
me
and
he
looked
at
the
rest
of
the
crowd
of
delegates
and
he
said,
you
know
what
the
good
news
is?
And
I
was
didn't
know
what
he
was
talking
about.
And
I
said,
no,
I
don't
know
what
the
good
news
is.
He
says
you're
the
only
one
in
here
with
a
shot
at
being
at
the
100th
General
Service
Conference.
All
these
other
people,
they
won't
be
here.
You,
you
have
a
shot.
But
that
that
endeared
me
to
him
and
we
talked
a
lot.
But
I
want
to
pass
on
something
he
told
me
that
stays
in
the
back
of
my
head
all
the
time,
he
said.
Billy,
if
Bill
Wilson
was
alive
a
would
have
been
on
the
cover
of
Wired
magazine
years
ago.
He
told
me
that
in
the
mid
2000s
and
you
can
just
listen,
go
online,
go
take
an
A
comes
of
age,
take
it,
pass
it
on,
take
the
language
of
the
heart,
take
an
electronic
one
and
just
type
in
a
search
bar
communication
and
see
how
many
times
Bill
Wilson
uses
that
word
that
it
is
vital
to
our
very
existence.
So
the
myth
that
we
can't
take
advantage,
we
know
where
newcomers
are.
I
was
at
a
regional
forum
a
couple
years
ago
in
Oklahoma.
A
19
year
old
woman
got
up
to
the
podium
or
up
to
the
microphone,
she
said
two
years
ago,
drunk,
hammered
out
of
her
mind
in
her
parents
house
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
she
typed
into
a
search
bar.
I
am
a
teenage
female
and
I
can't
stop
drinking.
That
led
her
to
the
AA
org
page
eventually.
And
I
say
eventually,
because
we
better
get
a
handle
on
SMO,
an
SEO,
search
engine
optimization,
we
shouldn't
be
afraid
of
that.
Instead,
we've
stayed
back
and
did
nothing.
And
the
first
seven
things
that
come
on
come
up
because
people
bought
words.
Newcomers
get
led
to
treatment
facilities
and
not
Alcoholics
Anonymous
when
they
wanted
to
go
to
a
A.
Why
are
not
we
making
that
a
total
high
priority,
that
when
somebody
types
in
something
about
Alcoholics
Anonymous
or
help
with
drinking,
we
should
be
the
first
thing
that
comes
up?
And
there
are
ways
inside
our
traditions
to
do
that.
And
we've
failed.
To
be
perfectly
honest,
we
have
not
done
it.
But
this
woman,
I
use
her
an
example,
19
years
old
when
she
made
the
statement,
she
eventually
got
to
the
a.org
page,
which
led
to
the
Houston
intergroup
page,
which
led
her
to
two
women
coming
over
her
house
the
next
day.
And
guess
what?
She
sobered
today.
Why?
Because
we
were
where
she
went
to.
And
that
is
the
most
important
thing
for
the
newcomers
of
today.
I'm
not
saying
everybody
goes
there,
but
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
everywhere.
And
you
know,
I
want
to
give
another
example
because
people
get
all
crazy
about
certain
things.
But
the
phone
book,
I
actually
have
one
at
my
house,
but
I
don't
say
it's
a
joke.
I
say
it
because
it's
a
tool
that
I
use
and
I
used
to
use
when
I
was
on
the
board
all
the
time.
I'd
make
photocopies
of
it
because
there
are
some
people
who
would
tell
you,
but
Oh
my
God,
if
we
have
this
or
if
we
have
that
and
all
of
a
sudden
an
ad
pops
up,
we're
affiliating
with
that
company.
OK,
so
let's
go
back
30
years
to
my
phone
book
where
in
the
Yellow
Pages
and
white
pages
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
listed.
And
guess
what's
right
next
to
it?
The
person
who
bought
the
half
page
ad
for
AAA
Towing,
The
person
who
bought
the
ad
for
the
A
club,
whatever
bowling
alley.
What's
right
next
to
that?
The
Anderson
Law
Firm
that
handles
personal
injury
cases.
They
all
paid
more
money.
So
it's
bold
or
it's
big.
Does
that
mean
a
A
was
affiliating
with
all
of
those
companies?
Apparently
not,
because
I've
researched
the
General
Service
Conference.
It
never
made
it
to
the
board
or
to
the
conference.
It
was
just
accepted
that
people
have
a
right
to
buy
ads
in
the
phone
book.
But
that
doesn't
mean
we
shouldn't
be
there
because
newcomers
go
to
the
phone
book.
So
our
reluctance
to
grab
on
to
not
the
future,
but
the
current
could
definitely
be
a
detriment
to
us.
And
that
promotion
word
has
been
something
that's
really
gotten
in
the
way
of
us.
And
I
would
just
encourage
anyone
to
read
the
long
form
of
the
tradition
to
read
a
comes
of
age,
to
read
the
12
and
12
and
to
really
examine
and
study
what
were
they
really
talking
about?
So
I
think
the
next
one
I'm
going
to
go
to,
um,
so
inside
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
God
knows,
I
always
joke
around
the
greatest
thing
about
AA,
it's
membership.
The
worst
thing,
it's
membership,
right?
I
mean,
on
any
given
day
you
could
love
it
or
it
could
drive
you
crazy.
I
and
I
always
joke
around
with
inner
groups
because
sometimes
I
say
I'm
jealous
of
inner
groups
because
at
least
they
get
to
work
with
the
drinking
people,
right?
You
know,
the
sober
Alcoholics
are
almost
a
tougher
customer
service
crowd
than
the
drinking
alcoholic.
But
what
I
want
to
stress
is
that
there's
definitely
a
feeling
in
some
parts
of
a
A
that
we
have
too
much
literature.
Some
people
feel
that
way,
Some
people
feel
that
this
literature
they
don't
like.
But
when
we
start
talking
like
that,
sometimes
you
could
hear
something
like
all
pamphlets
are
bad.
We
only
use
the
big
book.
Everything
else
is
watered
down.
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
I
want
to
tell
you
that
there
are
some
pamphlets
that
should
be
musts.
There
are
some
pamphlets
that
should
be
put
in
big
books
when
you
give
somebody
one.
I
mean,
I'll
just
give
you
a
sample.
Not
all,
but
a
sample,
the
A
a
group
is
must
reading.
This
pamphlet
is
must
reading.
But
I
will
tell
you
that
you
will
read
this
in
a
parking
lot
to
somebody
and
they
will
look
at
you
like
you
just
discovered
America,
right?
Like
where
did
you
get
that?
Who
told
you
that
this
pamphlet
is
must
reading?
Both
problems
other
than
alcohol.
Small
one.
The
big
one.
It's
must
reading
the
AA
member
medication
and
other
drugs
is
one
that
I
love
when
I'm
in
a
meeting
where
people
stop
practicing
medicine.
I
love
to
have
this.
I
love
to
be
able
to
let
somebody
know
that
listen,
not
that
I
want
to
disagree
with
that
other
person,
but
we
don't
do
that.
And
even
though,
if
you
don't
want
to
believe
me,
you
should
read
it
right
here,
we
actually
follow
Doctor's
orders.
We
don't
go
against
doctor's
orders.
It's
actually
an
outside
issue.
We
stay
away
from
it.
The
12
traditions
illustrated,
The
12
traditions
illustrated.
I
mean,
if
somebody
doesn't
really
want
to
ever
read
the
12:00
and
12:00,
I'm
not
going
to
complain.
But
God,
are
there
some
good
examples
in
this
pamphlet?
Now
I
hear
the
myth
about
we
have
too
many
pamphlets
or
too
many
special
interest
pamphlets
or
but
I
just
want
to
say
this,
and
I
feel
this
to
my
heart.
There
was
an
A
past
trustee.
His
name
will
come
to
me
quickly.
Alan
Alt
as
that
was
right.
Right.
Last
name,
yes.
So
Alan
was
a
non
alcoholic
Class
A
trustee
and
a
man
who
worked
in
prisons
his
entire
life.
And
I
served
with
him
when
I
was
an
appointed
committee
member
and
I
grew
to
really
respect
him.
But
he
said
something
sometime
that
really
caught
my
attention
because
he
talked
about
all
the
debates
inside
a
A
about
literature
and
pamphlets,
and
he
talked
about
audience.
And
now
because
I,
I
speak
a
lot
at
work,
I
speak
a
lot
publicly.
And
I
realized
that,
you
know,
the
most
important
question
to
ask
yourself
when
you're
speaking
in
public,
it's
not
really
a
note.
It's
not
really
studying.
The
most
important
thing
you
need
to
know
is
who
is
your
audience?
You
can't
do
anything
without
knowing
who
is
your
audience.
And
what
Alan
Alt
said,
which
is
so
wise,
he
said.
You
know
the
one
thing
I've
learned
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
he
said.
Every
pamphlet
that
we
print
for
alcoholic,
I
mean,
for
professionals,
Alcoholics
hate.
And
every
pamphlet
we
print
for
Alcoholics,
professionals
hate,
he
said.
But
that's
OK
because
they're
reading
the
wrong
pamphlet
for
the
audience.
Even
certain
pamphlets
that
are
geared
towards
bringing
people
in.
When
it
comes
to
pamphlets
that
are
for
meant
for
Alcoholics,
there
are
pamphlets
that
are
for
people
already
in
AA
and
pamphlets
for
people
not
in
a
A
yet
even
in
that
subculture
or
subset
of
people.
People
already
sober,
been
through
the
big
book,
have
a
sponsor.
They
read
some
of
those
other
pamphlets.
They're
like,
that's
garbage.
They
don't
even
remember
mention
the
big
book.
They
don't.
But
it's
not
for
the
person
with
a
foundation
who
has
36
spiritual
principles
in
their
life,
has
a
sponsor
and
a
Home
group.
You
know,
I've
said
before,
you
know,
I
always
compare
it
to
shark
fishing.
I've
never
been
shark
fishing,
but
I've
watched
a
lot
of
shows
on
shark
fishing.
I've
seen
a
lot
of
shows.
I
don't
really
know
a
lot
about
shark
fishing,
but
I
know
this,
that
they
take
a
lot
of
buckets
of
blood
and
they
dump
it
into
the
water
and
it's
called
chum
and
the
sharks
are
attracted
to
that
and
then
they
catch
a
shark.
You
can't
catch
a
shark
with
chum,
you
can
only
attract
it.
The
same
for
me
with
some
of
our
pamphlets.
You
can't
catch
an
alcoholic
with
a
pamphlet.
You
can
take
them
through
the
steps
with
a
pamphlet,
but
you
can
attract
them
so
that
they'll
want
to
do
that.
I
always
tell
the
story.
You
know,
in
in
1999,
when
I
was
a
delegate,
there
was
a
big
discussion.
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
the
debate
about
the
African
American
pamphlet.
That's
a
whole
workshop
on
its
own,
but
I
got
to
read
a
lot
of
good
background,
a
lot
of
good
background,
and
some
of
that
background
has
changed
my
thought
on
literature
from
wanting
to
ban
all
of
it
to
now
appreciating
it.
That
3
letters
in
particular,
three
women,
all
from
different
parts
of
the
country,
actually
two
from
the
same
general
vicinity.
The
1st
letter
was
from
a
gay
woman
and
it
really
caught
me
because
I
can
be
so
judgmental.
So
I'm
going
to
point
to
that
pamphlet
rack
right
out
in
the
back
there.
If
you
I'm
sure
you've
all
seen
a
rack
in
a
Home
group.
But
she
wrote
that
she
went
to
her
second
meeting.
She
wasn't
sure
if
gay
people
belonged
in
AA
at
that
time
in
society.
She
wasn't
even
sure
if
people
would
like
her
because
she
was
gay
based
on
where
she
lived,
what
part
of
the
country.
But
she
wrote
in
her
letter
that
at
her
second
meeting
she
saw
the
gay
and
lesbian
pamphlet
in
the
in
the
rack.
She
even
wrote
in
her
letter
that
she
never
read
it,
ever.
But
its
very
existence
there
allowed
her
to
believe
that
she
could
be
an
AA
and
she
could
get
a
sponsor
and
she
could
get
a
Home
group.
The
other
two
were
from
people
of
a
certain
religion
to
women
of
a
certain
religion
from
a
certain
part
of
the
country
that
had
been
in
and
out
of
correctional
facilities
for
a
long
time,
over
20
years
from
the
teenage
years
on
up,
alcoholic
drinking
since
their
teenage
years,
for
the
next
20
years.
And
the
religion
that
they
believed
in
and
the
pastors
that
they
went
to
would
not
send
people
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
because
we
don't
tell
you
what
God
to
believe
in.
And
so
I
never
thought
about
that.
That
never
really
crossed
my
mind.
But
their
letters
sure
impacted
me.
So
the
myth
is
all
pamphlets
are
not
bad.
Some
of
those
pamphlets
are
the
greatest
gold
we
have
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
So
let
me
go
to
an
easy
one.
Other
fellowships,
you
know,
one
of
the
greatest
unproven
myths
in
all
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
that
you
hear
talked
about
by
people
that
have
never
been
to
where
they're
talking
about
one
of
the
greatest
myths
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
I
won't
even
single
out
another
12
step
fellowship
is
when
somebody
in
a
meeting
screams
out
loud
that
some
other
fellowship
doesn't
work,
or
that
some
other
fellowship
is
not
solution
based,
or
that
some
of
the
fellowship
is
all
about
this
or
that.
All
said
by
people
who
have
never
been
to
that
fellowship.
And
it
is
a
death
sentence
that
we're
doing.
When
we
do
that.
It
is
not
a
myth.
It
is
a
death
sentence.
We
have
no
right
whatsoever
to
be
putting
down
other
12
step
fellowships,
but
we
do
it.
We
laugh,
we
do
it.
You
know,
I
had
to
finally
realize
that
if
I
run
in,
if
I
go
to
some
meeting
regularly
and
there's
somebody
there
who's
not
an
alcoholic,
but
they're
dying
of
something
and
they
hear
somebody
like
me
say
stupid
things
like
that
other
fellowship
doesn't
work.
There's
a
chance
that
that
person,
because
they've
interacted
with
one
of
us,
maybe
it
started
to
look
up
to
one
of
us.
And
because
I
say
something
stupid
like
that,
they
think,
oh,
Billy
said
that
that
doesn't
work.
And
then
what
happens?
They
die.
That
sounds
like
I'm
stretching
the
truth,
but
I'm
not
stretching
the
truth.
The
myth
that
Alcoholics
Anonymous
can
cure
or
arrest
drug
addiction
is
one
of
the
worst
myths
in
all
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
One
of
the
worst.
I'll
go
back
so
that
I'm
not
saying
it.
I'll
go
back
to
the
group
pamphlet.
The
primary
purpose
of
any
AA
group
is
to
carry
the
A
message
to
Alcoholics.
Period.
Experience
with
alcohol
is
one
thing
all
members
have
in
common.
Period.
It
is
misleading
to
hint
or
give
the
impression
that
a
A
solves
other
problems
or
knows
what
to
do
about
drug
addiction.
Period.
End
of
sentence,
end
of
paragraph.
If
we
don't
believe
that
that's
a
A,
we
should
change
it.
But
for
today's
date
and
time,
that's
our
group
conscience.
Now,
I'm
not
up
here
telling
you
or
telling
anybody
because
depending
on
where
I
am
in
the
country,
some
days
I'm
a
liberal,
some
days
I'm
a
conservative.
It
depends
on
the
audience
and
what
they
think
of
my
views.
So
I
really
don't
care
to
be
perfectly
honest,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
I
am
a
person.
I
wish
we
would
throw
out
the
short
form
of
the
third
tradition.
I
wish
we
would
get
rid
of
certain
statements
because
the
long
form
is
so
good.
It
couldn't
be
any
clearer,
as
somebody
just
said,
we
ought
to
be
for
all
those
who
suffer
from
alcoholism,
period.
It
doesn't
say
you
can't
have
any
other
problem.
I'd
be
curious.
I'll
ask
right
now.
Has
anyone
in
here
who
has
served
as
a
sponsor
and
Alcoholics
Anonymous
ever
worked
with
an
alcoholic
that
had
no
other
problems?
OK,
I
am
not
saying
if
you've
used
drugs
you
don't
belong
in
AA.
I'm
not
saying
if
you're
a
drug
addict,
but
you're
also
an
alcoholic,
you
don't
belong
in
a
A.
Of
course
they
do
and
you
do,
of
course,
but
we've
taken
that
so
far
down
the
road.
It
is
very
sad.
I
lost
a
good
friend
of
mine
last
Saturday
night
because
his
girlfriend
found
him
and
he
Od'd.
28
years
old.
My
friend
Billy,
who
I
took
him
out
of
his
mother's
basement
apt,
I
don't
know,
nine
years
ago
with
another
friend
of
mine.
And
I
only
mention
him
because
I'm
tired
of
taking
pictures
of
Facebook
posts
that
say
Rhode
Island
Rest
in
Peace.
For
somebody
who
died
of
a
drug
overdose
that
I
know
from
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
I
am
tired
of
taking
those
pictures.
I
am
tired
of
certain
members
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
who
have
convinced
themselves
because
of
the
alcoholic
ego
that
because
they
have
been
through
the
12
steps,
they
can
help
anybody.
It
is
simply
not
the
truth.
And
so
I
have
to
be
brave
enough
to
stand
up
and
say
that.
I
have
to
be
brave
enough
that
I
think
everybody
in
AA
should
have
an
NA
meeting
book
or
a
HA
meeting
book
in
their
car.
I
think
everybody
should
be
brave
enough
to
not
just
want
to
humiliate
or
scold
or
anything
else
inside
a
meeting,
but
be
willing
to
stand
outside
in
the
parking
lot
for
1/2
an
hour
and
find
out
where
can
that
person
go
to
get
their
life
saved.
Like
my
life
was
saved.
And
it's
just
as
much
my
a
responsibility
to
get
them
there
as
it
is
to
tell
somebody
I'll
be
their
sponsor
and
Alcoholics
Anonymous
to
just
be
so
flippant
to
say,
well,
they're
not
an
alcoholic.
I
don't
need
to
do
anything.
I
don't
know
how
you
would
rectify
that
with
the
big
book.
I
don't
know
if
that
how
that's
being
of
service
to
God
and
those
around
you.
I
mean,
we
really,
really
as
a
fellowship
need
to
get
rid
of
this
myth
that
we
are
all
things
to
all
people.
Singleness
of
purpose
where
a
lot
of
places
I
get
accused
of
being
a
liberal.
Singleness
of
purpose
is
not
about
exclusion.
It
is
about
saving
lives.
Absolutely,
positively
read
our
history,
read
where
it
comes
from.
And
so
I
think
this
myth,
you
know,
and
again,
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
group
pamphlet
because
there's
something
that
ties
very
into
this
and
that
is
on
page
13,
another
one
of
the
biggest
myths
of
all
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
the
definition
of
an
open
and
closed
meeting,
probably
misunderstood
by
90%,
maybe
a
little
more,
but
open
and
close
meetings
are
clearly
laid
out
here.
When
I
meet
a
young
kid
at
a
club
by
where
I
live,
I
always
joke
around
when
I'll
say
that
I
hate
the
term
ISM,
that
that
term
just
drives
me
nuts.
When
I
ask
some
young
kid
why
they
think
they're
an
alcoholic
and
they
say
oh
I
have
the
ISM
and
I'm
like
really?
Because
what
I
have
to
report
about
that
is
that
over
the
last
20
something
years
in
my
career,
as
I've
had
to
manage
people
and
manage
more
people
and
manage
people
that
manage
people,
I
have
found
out
one
thing.
Everybody
has
an
ISM.
Everybody,
every
single
human
being
has
some
ISM.
Most
of
them
have
multiple
Isms,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
missing
2
very
important
things.
They
do
not
have
the
physical
compulsion
to
have
to
have
another
drink
once
they
start
drinking,
and
worse
than
that,
they
do
not
the
next
day
when
they
are
completely
physically
sober,
regardless
of
the
consequences
of
the
night
before,
their
brain
does
not
tell
them
to
light
the
fuse
again
and
to
do
it
again.
The
other
thing
that
I've
learned
about
talking
to
some
new
people
is
if
they're
at
a
closed
meeting
is
how
many
people
are
irresponsible
and
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
will
tell
somebody.
I'm
just
going
to
play
out
what
happens.
Probably
happening.
Well,
it's
5:00
to
9:00
on
the
West
Coast,
but
it
probably
happened
at
least
1000
times
in
the
last
three
hours.
This
is
pretty
central
meeting
time
across
the
country.
More
meetings
happen
between
6:00
PM
Eastern
and
9:00
PM
Pacific
than
any
other
time
of
day.
But
I
know
what's
happened
in
parking
lots.
Somebody
has
said
to
another
a
a
member,
oh,
this
is
a
closed
meeting,
I
can't
go.
And
somebody
has
looked
them
in
the
eyes
and
said,
oh,
just
tell
them
you
have
a
desire
to
stop
drinking.
That
is
not
what
this
book
says.
This
pamphlet
says
that
is
not
the
group
conscience
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
It
says
very
clearly
closed
meetings
offer
a
a
members
only
or
for
those
who
have
a
drinking
problem
and
have
a
desire
to
stop
drinking.
Having
a
desire
to
stop
drinking
is
only
50%
of
the
requirement
to
attend
a
closed
meeting.
Not
according
to
me.
According
to
this,
the
other
50%
is
to
also
have
a
drinking
problem.
But
yet
we
have
people
who
irresponsibly
tell,
people
just
say
you
don't
have,
just
say
you
have
a
desire
to
stop
drinking.
And
then
we
go
to
the
open
meeting,
which
again
we
could
probably
do
a
workshop
for
three
days
on.
Open
meetings
are
available
to
anyone
interested
in
in
the
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
program
of
recovery
from
alcoholism.
Non
Alcoholics
may
attend
open
meetings
as
observers.
I
think
we
can
safely
say
that
in
a
lot
of
places,
open
meetings
have
become
all
addictions.
Anonymous.
That's
just
a
fact.
Was
never
supposed
to
be
that
way.
Observer
means
observe.
And
again,
I
love
and
embrace
the
group
conscience
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
so
much
that
if
you
disagree
with
me,
I
respect
that.
If
you
disagree
with
this,
I
respect
it.
But
you
should
send
in
an
agenda
item.
You
should
send
an
agenda
item
in
to
the
General
Service
Conference
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
you
should
say
me
or
my
group
or
my
district
or
my
area
does
not
believe
in
this
definition
of
a
closed
meeting.
It
is
okay
to
just
be,
have
a
desire,
but
not
to
have
a
problem
with
drinking.
If
that's
what
you
believe,
somebody
should
send
that
in.
But
until
that
happens,
that
is
not
what
a
closed
meeting
is.
You
need
to
have
both.
That
quickly
takes
me
to
the
next
myth,
which
is
the
good
old
tradition
about
group
autonomy.
I'm
not
sure
which
of
the
12
are
the
most
misunderstood,
but
I
will
safely
tell
you
that
the
autonomy
tradition
is
definitely
in
the
top
three
of
misunderstood
traditions.
There
is
no
doubt
about,
in
my
experience,
traveling
and
sponsoring
people
and
talking
to
people,
it
is
very
important
to
embrace
the
word
custom.
Very
important
because
there
is
a
big
difference
between
a
custom
and
a
tradition.
A
custom
is
what
kind
of
coffee
do
you
drink,
what
night
of
the
week
or
month
do
you
have
your
anniversary
meeting.
A
custom,
maybe
even
how
you
tell
people
to
dress
even
if
I
don't
agree
with
it.
A
custom
may
be
that
use
group
money
to
buy
anniversary
trips,
which
drives
me
personally
crazy,
but
so
be
it.
That's
a
custom.
Accustomed
may
be
what
nights
of
the
wheat
you
meet.
Another
custom
may
be
that
you
have
a
picnic
every
year.
Those
are
all
great
things
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
exactly
what
group
autonomy
was
created
for.
Group
autonomy
though,
was
never,
if
you
read
any
of
the
history,
had
anything
to
do
with
being
a
veto
power
over
one
of
the
11
other
11
traditions.
Tradition
for
does
not
override
any
other
of
the
11.
If
you
are
breaking
one
of
the
other
eleven,
you
are
affecting
other
groups
or
AA
as
a
whole.
The
example
you
are
setting
by
breaking
the
other
11
is
so
dangerous
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
the
snowball
effect
that
it
has
because
people
will
hear
that
and
say
it
and
say
they
saw
you
do
it
or
your
group
do
it.
Tradition
for
has
caused
us.
You
know,
when
you're
in
an
A
a
business
meeting,
I
always
perk
up
when
I
hear
someone
go
right
to
autonomy
or
tradition
for
because
I
know
right
away
they
are
about
to
break
at
least
one,
probably
two,
maybe
three
of
the
other
traditions.
That's
just
the
way
it
goes.
As
soon
as
someone
mentions
that
word
autonomy,
it
never
had
anything
to
do
with
the
other
11
traditions
and
it's
caused
us
some
real
big
problems
because
a
lot
of
times
when
we
talk
about
traditions
instead
of
talking
about
the
pros
and
cons
or
the
merits.
If
you
want
to
debate
Tradition
3
or
tradition
6
or
tradition
9,
I
love
nothing
more
than
the
sit
outside
and
debate
it.
It's
a
little
strange,
right?
But
I
admit
that
today.
But
I
would
love
to
debate
it.
You
have
your
list
of
why
you're
right,
I
have
why
list
why
I'm
right.
But
both
of
us
on
our
list
of
why
we're
right
should
never
have
tradition,
for
that
is
not
a
reason
to
be
right
when
it
involves
discussing
one
of
the
other
traditions.
The
only
way
AA
has
stayed
together
is
by
observing
all
12
traditions.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
myth
of
Corrections
meetings.
So
I
am
an
alcohol,
A
member
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
who's
an
alcoholic
who
spent
not
a
lot
of
time,
but
over
a
year
in
a
Correctional
Facility,
sober
member
of
a
Correctional
Facility
group,
two
groups
actually,
because
I
was
transferred
from
one
to
the
other.
There
are
some
misnomers
out
there
about
meetings
and
correctional
facilities.
First
of
all,
there's
the
myth
that
the
traditions
go
out
the
window
when
you
have
a
meeting
in
a
Correctional
Facility.
Nothing
could
be
further
from
the
truth.
Nothing.
The
other
myth
which
ties
into
that
myth,
and
I'm
sure
there's
many
people
in
here
who've
done
this
type
of
service,
is
that
our
job
as
outside
sponsors
is
to
go
in
and
run
the
whole
meeting.
That
could
not
be
further
from
the
truth.
Our
job
is
to
give
them
an
AA
setting
that
looks
as
close
as
possible
as
to
AAA
in
the
outside
world
so
that
when
they
get
out,
they
feel
comfortable
going
into
that
AAA
meeting.
That
means
a
resident
of
that
Correctional
Facility
should
be
the
chairperson.
That
means
a
resident
of
that
Correctional
Facility
should
be
the
secretary.
That
means
that
when
you
can,
you
have
one
of
them
speak.
Nothing
wrong
with
bringing
in
a
guest
speaker.
We
do
that,
but
this
kind
of
trend
that
we
need
to
bend
and
comply.
There's
a
great
in
the
corrections
manual
or
or
kit,
there
is
a
thing
called
the
four
step
process
created
by
a
great
member
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Because
the
truth
is,
if
somebody
wants
you
to
bring
an
AA
meeting
into
their
facility,
you
should
never
just
say
yes.
You
should
say,
when
can
I
meet
with
you?
We'd
like
to
come
meet
and
it's
important
to
find
out
what
do
they
really
want
because
they
want,
they
might
want
something
else
besides
AA.
And
the
trap
we
fall
in
is
that
we
only
have
one
thing
to
provide
a
A.
They
may
want
something
else
and
that's
great
and
it
might
even
be
good,
but
it's
not
what
we
do.
We
don't
have
combination
A,
a
NA
meetings.
We
just
don't
do
that.
We
don't
waive
the
requirements
on
open
or
closed
meetings.
It's
just
either
one
or
the
other.
But
somewhere
along
the
line,
because
I
can
tell
you
I
have
seen
in
writing
in
an
area
newsletter
or
in
a
prison
group
newsletter
that's
part
of
an
area
corrections
committee
where
they
list
dual
meetings.
How
is
it
possible
that
a
General
Service
Area
sponsored
Corrections
committee
who
brings
meetings
into
this
facility
lists
the
meeting
as
a
dual
A
a
slash?
Something
else.
So
that
myth
is
really
a
real
big
myth.
So
in
my
last
couple
of
minutes,
I
want
to
talk
about,
I'll
say
quickly,
get
rid
of
the
myth
that
whoever
goes
to
the
math
room
elect
this
GSR.
I
will
tell
you
in
one
minute
or
less
what
that
means.
If
you
say
that
or
do
that,
it
means
you
could
not
give
a
you
know
what
about
Alcoholics
Anonymous
or
its
future
or
the
people
who
are
still
suffering.
If
your
group
is
electing
people
that
are
in
the
bathroom,
don't
elect
them.
Don't
send
us
them.
The
only
way
Alcoholics
Anonymous
can
stay
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
be
the
true
group
conscience
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
if
groups
send
people
who
are
going
to
do
the
job
and
want
to
represent
that
group.
That's
it.
So
I'll
move
off
of
that
one.
I'll
handle
one
quickly
and
then
I'll
go
to
the
one
I
want
to
end
with.