The Fellowship of the Spirit convention in Queens, NY
I've
been
listening
to
since
I
guess
2002,
2003
and
he's
just
a,
a
wonderful,
wonderful
speaker
and
example
of
the
power,
you
know,
I'm
really
grateful
to
to
have
him
in
my
life,
even
though
it's
mostly
through
tapes,
you
know,
But
you
know,
we
do
talk
on
the
phone
sometimes
and
he's
a
great
guy,
you
know,
he's
a
great
guy.
And
you
know,
Mickey,
Mickey,
I
don't
know
too
well,
but
I
know
that
he
was
very,
very,
he
was
the
one
who
started
a
fellowship
of
the
spirit.
He's
gonna,
I
asked
him
to
talk
about
that,
the
history
of
fellowship
of
the
spirit.
And
I'll
tell
you
this,
you
know,
I've,
I've
talked
with
him
on
the
phone
and
every
time
I
talk
with
him,
I
get
this,
this
calm
feeling,
this
calming
feeling.
You
know,
it's
like
the
sunlight
of
the
spirit.
I
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
he's
got
that
effect
and
you
know,
that's
for
real.
And
Maria
Marie
M
is
going
to
be
the
Allanon
speaker.
I
don't
know
where
she
is,
but
oh,
there
she
is.
You
know,
let's,
let's
give
a
round
of
applause
to
the
speakers.
And
we're,
we're
really
so,
so
grateful.
Jack,
the
Marine
is
going
to
be
here
tomorrow
and
enough
out
of
me.
And
we'll
we'll
have
them
start
off
any
way
they
want.
OK,
thanks.
We'll
start
out
with
introductions.
Thank
you
very
much,
Harry.
And
my
name
is
Mickey.
I'm
an
alcoholic
and
it
is
a
it's
a
joy
to
be
with
you.
There
are
old
friends
here
and
new
friends
here
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
in
Queens,
NY
on
this
beautiful
evening
talking
about
life
and
death.
Umm,
being
saved
from
a
seemingly
hopeless
state
of
mind
and
body.
And
give
Peter
a
moment
to
say
hi
and
then
I'll
get
started.
And
Peter
recovered
alcoholic.
Hi
Peter,
grateful
be
alive
and
sober
and
part
of
a
sake
of
place
called
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Want
to
thank
Harry
for
this
kind
invitation.
To
Mickey,
myself,
Marie
and
Marion
to
be
here
to
share
this
weekend
with
you.
And
to
the
committee
who
put
this
together.
So
if
we
can
just
give
it
up
for
the
committee.
And
so
thanks
President,
it's
a
treat
for
me
to
share
this
weekend
with
my
sponsor
Mickey
and
seeing
some
old
friends
and
I'm
sure
a
bunch
of
new
found
friends.
I'm
thrilled
to
be
here
and
we
hope
God
leads
us
to
this
book.
We'll
we'll
kick
it
around,
share
our
experience.
We'll
be
coming
at
you
experientially
with
this
book
to
illustrate
what
has
happened
to
us
as
a
result
of
this
book,
A
power
call
God
and
the
sacred
fellowship
called
Alcohol
Exonomous.
So
I'm
thrilled
to
be
here
and
get
to
share
with
you
guys.
Thanks,
Peter.
So
Harry
asked
if
I
would.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
share
a
bit
of
my
story
with
you
so
that
you
have
some
confidence
that
one
of
the
facilitators
this
weekend
is
actually
alcoholic.
So
we're
going
to
do
that
and
we'll
each
do
that.
But
Harry
asked
me
if
I'd
share
with
you
a
little
bit
about
the
origins
of
the
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit
conference,
says,
and
I
would
love
to
do
that.
What
happens
is
that
Don
Pritz,
who
some
of
you
may
have
known,
and
if
you
haven't,
if
you
didn't
know
him,
you
may
have
heard
him
on
tape
and
unbelievable
gentleman
in
a
lifelong,
practically
lifelong
friend
of
mine
and
Marie's
and
Don
and
Marie
and
I
talked
about
the
fact
that
we
would
be
invited
to
conferences
around
the
country
and
they
were
more
intimate.
They
were
more
like
this
size
than
what
we
had
in
Colorado.
What
we
had
in
Colorado
was
like
1500
people
show
up
at
the
state
convention
and
there
were
overflow
rooms.
It
was
videotaped,
piped
in
and
everything.
And
I'm
going,
we
often
have
this
great
experience
to
be
able
to
come
up
and
shake
people's
hands
and
say
hello
and
and
get
to
know
some
people
in
these
other
conferences.
But
we
don't
have
that
in
Colorado.
What
do
you
say
we
give
that
a
shot?
And
so
I
understand
you
at
Gary
be
out
here.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
last
year
or
year
before
with
Bob.
Oh,
for
those
of
you
came,
well,
it's
one
of
those
weird
stories.
We're
sitting
on
Gary's
kitchen
floor
in
his
double
wide
trailer
in
Indianapolis
talking
about
this
idea
for
this
conference
in
Gary's
from
Cheyenne,
WY
and
lived
in
Denver
for
years.
And
that's
where
I
met
him
40
years
ago.
Pardon
me.
And
we
said,
well,
all
right,
we're
going
to
go
back
to
Denver.
We're
going
to
talk
to
Don,
and
we're
going
to
get
this
thing
rolling.
And
I
said,
Don,
if
you
will
provide
the
man
and
woman
power
to
get
this
thing
pulled
together,
Marie
and
I
will
go
and
find
a
hotel.
And
we
each
kicked
in
$250.
We
put
up
to
50,
and
Don
put
up
to
50.
And
we
started
the
1st
what
we
called
the
Breckenridge
Conference
in
Breckenridge,
Co
in
1993.
And
I
came
up
with
the
theme
for
the
first
conference.
And
the
theme
was
the
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit,
because
I
feel
so
strongly.
It's
like
if
you're
in
the
fellowship
of
the
Spirit,
you
know
it
and
we
look
for
each
other.
You
have
to
forgive
me
this
weekend.
I
am
very
emotional
about
this.
How
do
you
tell
somebody
how
you
feel
about
being
given
your
life
back
and
getting
a
chance
to
be
useful?
That
if
we
die
tomorrow
and
we
go
across
the
river
and
we're
talking
to
our
boss
and
he
can
say,
did
you
do
anything
for
my
kids?
We
can
say
we
tried.
You
know,
we
pitched
in,
we
gave
it
a
shot.
So
the
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit
was
the
first
year
theme
and
that
name
stuck.
I
didn't
expect
it
to
like
everything
else
with
this
conference,
we
did
not
know
what
the
heck
was
going
to
happen.
We
just
started
it.
So
I
had
this
idyllic
vision
of
people
coming
to
the
Colorado
mountains.
We
would
have
a
few
speakers.
You
could
bring
your
family.
We
could,
you
know,
you
could
walk
around,
enjoy
the
mountains
and
it
was
going
to
be
like
that.
And
then
Don
says
why
don't
we
have
workshops
for
the
steps?
Now
he's
complicated
my
idea,
which
turns
out
to
be
the
heart
and
soul
of
the
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit.
Conferences,
workshops
on
the
steps,
this
book,
these
steps
as
they're
written
and
supported
in
the
Big
Book
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
our
life
itself.
So
we
we
went
that
way.
What
started
out,
I
thought,
we're
all
going
to
be
walking
around,
maybe
with
flowers
in
our
hair.
It's
an
old
hippie
thing,
but
whatever
turned
out
to
be,
you
don't
have
two
seconds
to
turn
around
before
you're
in
another
workshop
with
people
from
all
over
the
country.
And
then
something
started
to
happen
that
was
really
interesting.
We
would
have,
I
remember
going
at,
we
had
people
come
from
different
sections
of
the
country.
So
we
had
people
coming
from
Louisiana.
And
so
the
the
Louisiana
folks
would
be
making,
you
know,
shrimp
and,
and
jambalaya
and
they'd
be
cooking
these
meals
in
their
room.
And
the
people
from
New
Mexico
would
be
coming
up
from
Santa
fantas
and
they'd
be
having
enchiladas
and
God
knows
what
Mexican
food
in
their
room.
And
we
started
bouncing
room
to
room
and
being
with
each
other.
When
you'd
get
into
the
room,
then
you
would
see
a
girl.
I
remember
a
girl,
young
woman
from
New
York,
leaning
over
to
a
guy
from
Lafayette,
LA,
and
saying,
now
where
did
you
find
that
4th
column
in
the
fourth
step
or
where's
that?
And
we
started
to
watch
this
thing
happen
and,
and
it
was
noteworthy
because
we
had
people,
we
call
it
the
Miracle
on
the
Mountain.
We
have
people
who
come
and
I
tell
people
the
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit
in
Colorado,
there's
no
secret
handshake.
We
don't
wear
the
same
letter
sweaters.
We
don't
do
any
of
that
stuff.
It's
all
right
smack
out
of
the
big
book
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
but
something
happened
in
that
and
it
continues
to
happen
today
where
people
will
come
up
and
they
will
find
their
programs
get
kick
started.
They
just
get
this
breath
of
fresh
air.
And
there's
and
there's
people
from
all
over
the
country.
We've
had
people
come
from
Vietnam.
We've
had
people
fly
in
from
London,
Australia
just
to
be
with
us
in
the
mountains.
It
gives
me
goosebumps,
right?
Gives
me
goosebumps
and
and
they're
coming
in.
What
are
they
coming
for?
This
is
a
head
scratcher
because
I
can
be
really
very
left
brained
sometimes
and
I
want
to
figure
it
out
and
I
can't.
Other
than
the
fact
that
God
has
blessed
us.
We're
trying
to
do
what
He's
asked
us
to
do
and
it
is
out
of
the
book.
It's
not
out
of
the
book
like
I'm
going
to
beat
you
with
this
book.
It's
out
of
the
book.
Like
I'm
going
to
love
you
with
this
book.
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
what
this
book
and
the
principles
and
practice
is
in
it
have
done
for
me.
And
then
we
have
panels
and
we
have
panels
from
people
from
all
over
the
country,
all
over
the
world,
sharing
their
experience
with
what
it
was
like,
what
happened
and
what
it's
like
now.
So
as
a
little
bit
of
history
for
the
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit,
we
used
to
have
60
people
come
down
from
Seattle,
WA
to
be
with
us
and
we
look
forward
to
every
year
and
they
come
down
like
this
big
gang
of
joy
and
chaos.
And
then
the
traders
turned
around
and
started
their
own.
We
now
have,
I
say
we
now
have.
That
is
a
complete
misstatement.
There
are
now,
I
think
about
11
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit
conferences.
There's
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit
Dublin.
They
just
started
one
in
Johannesburg,
South
Africa.
We've
got
one
in
the
Ukraine.
The
people
in
Mongolia
are
very
interested
about
this.
Do
you
understand
why
I
sat
down
occasionally
and
say,
what
is
this?
What
is
this
thing
that
's
so
magnetic
that's
drawing
people
in?
It's
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
but
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
be
careful
here,
because
this
is
a
program
of
love
and
tolerance.
This
is
a
program.
This
is
a
conference
based
on
what's
in
here.
There's
a
sense
of
orthodoxy
about
it,
if
I
can
say
that.
It's
like,
why
don't
we
give
it
a
shot?
The
way
it's
written,
what
can
we
lose?
Why
don't
we
give
it
a
shot
like
as
it's
written
and
why
don't
we
share
with
each
other
out
of
our
experience
for
what
happened
in
our
lives
as
a
result
of
having
done
this?
So
it's
it's
really
catching
on
around
around
the
country.
We
have
it
in
the
South,
we
have
it
here,
we
have
it
on
Mid-Atlantic.
We
have
all
of
these.
We
don't
have
anything.
We're
not
affiliated
with
each
other
except
that
we
do
look
for
each
other
around
the
country.
And
there
are
phone
calls
that
come,
hey,
I
got
somebody
who's
getting
sober
in
in
Minneapolis.
Who
do
you
have,
you
know,
somebody
in
Minneapolis?
You
got
anybody
in
Lafayette?
Do
you
know
anybody
in
Queens?
And
I'm
going
to
have
a
yes
for
that.
So
Harry,
that's
my
shot
at
it.
And
in
the
course
of
it,
I
can
say
we,
because
we
have
people
will
call
us,
we've
got
in
touch
with
the
people
from
Johannesburg
and
they,
they
said,
how
did
you
structure
this?
What
did
you
do?
And
we
shared
with
them
what
we
have
done,
what
we
did
to
incorporate
to
become
a
nonprofit
organization
for
safety
reasons
and
for
prudence
and
so
on
down
the
line.
So
I've
had
the
privilege
of
going
and
speaking
at,
at
some
of
these
conferences
and,
and
I
miss
Don,
I
miss
him.
That
guy
was
Mr.
Moonlight.
I
don't
know,
he
was
something
else.
And
so
that's
a
bit
about
the
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit
conference.
It
is
a
pleasure
to
be
at
the
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit
New
York
with
you,
and
you
will
surely
meet
some
of
us
as
you
trudge
the
road
of
happy
destiny,
right?
Something
happens
to
a
person
who
has
alcoholism,
who
encounters
this
big
book
and
somebody
who's
works
out
of
this
big
book.
The
Greek
Orthodox
have
a
term
for
actually
the
Blessed
Mother,
and
the
term
in
Greek
is
theoticos,
and
theoticos
means
God
bearer.
So
literally
Mary,
you
know,
is
a
God
bearer.
OK.
But
I
think
what
happens
if
we
work
this
program
out
of
the
book
is
we
become
Theotokos.
I'll
tell
you
this
and
then
I'm
going
to,
I'll
get
the
qualifying.
I
do
you
remember
this
terrible
Aurora
theater
shooting
that
happened
in
Denver?
Well,
I
was
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
we
were
at
Marie
and
I
were
up
with
friends
up
at
the
Fellowship
of
the
Spirit
conference.
We
came
back
and
our
whole
intersection
was
filled
with
news
vans
and,
and,
and
journalists
running
around.
We
didn't
know
what
was
going
on.
We
didn't
know
why
we
didn't
know
that
the
shooting
had
occurred.
And
it
turns
out
that
Marie
and
I
live
across
the
street
from
the
psychiatrist
of
the
shooter,
OK,
which
we
also
didn't
know,
which
has
now
been
blasted
all
over
the
world.
And
so
I'm,
I'm
sharing
this
with
you
about
what
it
means
to
become
Theoticos.
And
so
the
reporters
would
come
up
to
ask
and
ask
us
about
her.
She's
our
neighbor.
So
it
would
say
she's
a
lovely
person,
she's
a
great
neighbor.
And
that's
all
we
have
to
say
about
her,
period.
And
so
the
dust
died
down.
And
then
one
day
we
work
out
of
our
homes.
So
the
garage
is
converted
into
a
custom
cowboy
boot
shop.
So
Amen.
And
so
I
tell
people
I
got
a
convertible
shop.
I
can
just
raise
the
door
and
everybody
can
come
in.
Whatever.
Let's
all
get
together.
And
we
saw
this
nice
young
woman
going
across
the
street
to
knock
on
our
neighbor's
door.
And
our
neighbor
had
the
good
sense
to
go
into
hiding
because
she
was
just
being
inundated.
OK,
so
she
turned
around
and
looked
at
Marie
and
I,
we
were
in
the
shop
and
she
came
over
and
I
thought,
00
and
she's
from
Texas.
And
I've
got
all
these
feet,
they're
called
lasts,
and
they're
all
hanging
from
the
ceiling
and
it's
what
you
build
boots
on.
So
I've
got
all
these
feet
hanging
from
the
ceiling
and
she
looks
in
and
she
says,
hello,
are
you
a
cowboy
bootmaker?
I
said
I
sure
AM.
And
she
says
I'm
from
Texas.
She
came
in
and
we
started
talking
and
I'm
thinking
to
myself,
in
my
cynicism
and
myself
protection,
she's
softening
me
up
and
us
up
so
she
can
start
pumping
us
for
information
about
our
neighbor.
Two
hours
later
we
know
everything
about
each
other's
lives.
Now
she
doesn't
have
any
questions
about
the
neighbor.
And
and
so
a
year
and
a
half
go
by
and
she
says
it
was
great
being
here.
And
she
called
and
left
a
message
and
she
says,
Mickey,
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
think
about
you
and
Marie
often.
I
don't
think
about
you
every
month.
I
don't
think
about
you
every
week.
I
think
about
you
every
day.
She's
ACBS
producer
and
she
says
I
would
like
to
talk,
come
talk
to
you.
And
I
said
OK.
She
says,
I
want
to
put
you
on
Sunday
morning
on
CBS.
And
so
she
says,
but
it's
not
about
the
boots,
it's
about
you.
And
I'm
thinking,
what
do
you
want
to
put
me
on
CBS
And
it's
taken
me
now
and
that
she
I
met
with
some
higher
ups
and
it's
not
happening
and
I
don't
think
it
will.
But
what
it
took
me
all
this
time
and
it's
taken
me
months
to
think
about
it.
I'm
thinking
to
myself,
what
does
she
want
to
talk
to
me
of
for?
I
think
she
wants
to
talk
to
me
because
she
met
the
God
in
me.
It's
not
me.
She
met
the
God
in
me,
which
is
how
we
are.
A
program
of
attraction.
Would
you
agree?
And
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
create
a
God
sized
hole
that
God
can
take
up
residence
in,
work
for
us
and
work
through
us.
So
that's
what
this
weekend
is
about.
God
bless
our
time
together,
huh?
So
I
started
drinking
when
I
was
five
years
old.
I
grew
up
in
Europe,
and
in
Europe
they
would
give
the
kids
wine,
cut
back
with
water
for
the
evening
meal.
And
aren't
we
European
and
ain't
I
alcoholic?
You
know
what
I'm
saying?
So
when
I
got
sober,
I
came
into
the
club.
I
got
sober
in
1974.
I
have
40
years
of
continuous
sobriety,
which
I
I'm,
I'm
sincerely
going
to
tell
you,
I
came
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
at
27
years
old
for
two
weeks
of
sobriety.
I
had
been
drinking
all
my
life
and
I
could
not.
It's
like
I
got
on
a
train
and
I
knew
I
couldn't
get
off
the
train.
I
knew
it
was
not
going
to
happen.
I'd
been
on
that
train
all
my
life,
but
I
was
so
sick.
I
was
so
exhausted.
I
was
so
discouraged
and
I
wanted
off
the
train
and
I
thought
if
I
could
get
two
weeks
of
sobriety,
I
would
be
so
grateful
to
you
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
because
I
came
to
you
because
you
had
alcohol
in
your
name.
I
knew
nothing
about
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
I'd
seen
a
movie,
The
Days
of
Wine
and
Roses
in
1960,
something,
and
they
told
me,
people
told
me
that
AA
was
in
that
movie.
I
don't
remember
it.
I
could
tell
you
how
much
he
drank.
I
could
tell
you
where
he
hit
his
hit
his
bottles.
I
could
tell
you
how
he
tore
up
the
greenhouse.
But
I
didn't
remember
that
I,
I
was
in
that
movie.
Think
we're
not
in
danger?
It's
right
in
my
face
and
I've
got
this
thing
and
I
don't
even
remember
it.
So
if
I
could
get
just
two
weeks
where
I
wasn't
that
sick,
if
I
get
2
weeks
where
I
wouldn't
wake
up
and
my
hands
would
be
crippled.
I
called
her
friend.
I
said
what's
wrong
with
my
hands?
He
said
it's
the
booze
dummy.
And
I'm
thinking,
how
can
booze
do
this?
To
my
hands,
I
don't
understand.
It's
like
I
came
in
from
Mars
or
something.
I
did
not
know
anything
about
this
disease
except
I
would
go
over
to
the
University
of
Colorado
Medical
Center
library.
And
I'm
looking
up
for
what
is
it
in
Coors
Beer
that's
making
me
so
sick?
And
I
was
getting
close
to
him,
to
the
rice.
This
guy
cannot
live.
You
see
what
I'm
saying?
I
think
it's
the
rice
and
and
I
found
out,
I
found
out
that
you
had
God
and
Spirit
that
was
going
to
solve
the
problem.
And
I
thought
I
have
got
to
get
out
of
here.
I'm
like,
are
they
going
to
cure
me
with
fairy
tales
or
what
is
this?
I'm
going
to
die.
They
don't
understand
I'm
going
to
die.
I
got
to
don't
give
me
fairy
tales.
I
am
going
to
die.
So
I
met
with
my
sponsor.
Now
my
sponsor
it
turns
out
was
kind
of
like
a
Siamese
twin
triplet,
quadruplet
guy
because
I
said,
can
we
have
lunch?
He
says,
sure.
I
show
up.
There's
like
six
guys
at
the
table
always.
And
I
tell
him,
guys,
I
made
a
discovery.
I'm
not
alcoholic
because
if
you're
alcoholic,
you
got
to
do
this,
you
know
what
I
mean?
And
I'm
going
to
die.
So
I'm
going.
I'm
not
alcoholic.
And
the
the
head
thug
over
in
the
meeting
and
I
was
looking
at
me
and
he
said
his
guys
were
about
6-6
and
an
old
sheep
rancher.
And
he
looks
at
me
and
he
says,
really
great.
He
says,
you
know
what?
There's
a
bar
on
the
other
side
of
this
restaurant.
Come
on
over,
I'll
buy
you
a
beer.
I
said
what?
He
said
seriously,
come
on
over
and
I'll
buy
you
a
drink.
I
said
I
can't
do
that
and
he
said
why?
I
said,
if
you,
if
you
buy
me
that
drink,
I'll
go
to
hell.
And
he
says,
and
you're
not
alcoholic.
It
was
like
my
rear
end
was
riveted
to
the
chair.
I
could
not
move.
And
that
dispelled
that.
And
the
only
option
that
was
offered
to
me
was
to
walk
this
road,
to
walk
this
road,
Fairy
Taleville,
thank
God,
right?
And
so
it
was
on
this
road
that
my
life
was
given
back
to
me.
And
I
got
more
than
two
weeks
of
sobriety.
What
was
it
like
when
I
drank?
I
can
tell
you
this,
if
you
talk
to
any
newcomer
at
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
they
have
a
plan.
Everybody's
got
a
plan,
right?
Here
was
my
plan.
I
had
a
loaded
32
automatic
pistol
in
my
top
drawer
and
if
this
doesn't
work
I'm
putting
my
brains
on
the
wall.
It
was
not
a
great
plan,
but
it
was
true.
And
I
had
that
gun
up
there
for
the
1st
3
1/2
years
I
was
sober
and
my
wife
is
not
alcoholic
and
she
had
to
live
with
the
knowledge
that
that
gun
was
in
that
drawer
for
3
1/2
years.
A
suicide
is
not
the
mark
of
a
flexible
personality.
I
only
had
one
plan.
This
doesn't
work.
I'm
out
of
here.
I
couldn't
tolerate
it
and
I
used
to
be
in
a
a
meetings
and
I
want
to
put
this
out
on
the
table
here.
I
am
not
here
this
weekend
to
talk
to
you
about
drinking.
I
am
here
to
talk
to
you
about
alcoholism
for
real.
This
is
because
I
got
in
here
and
you
notice
how
everything
is
competitive.
Everything
I
drank
more
than
you
spilled
on
your
tie.
First
of
all,
I
didn't
wear
a
tie,
but
you
know
what
I
mean.
So
that
makes
you
king
alcoholic.
And
what
am
I?
I'm
a
loser
again.
Well,
I'm
more
spiritual
than
that
guy,
really.
Now
we
got
that
one
going
for
us.
That's
a
good
one.
But
I
would
sit
in
meetings
and
I'm
thinking
I
want
to
die.
I'm
coming
out
of
my
skin.
What
is
wrong
with
me?
What
a
a
do
I
go
to?
What
anonymous
do
I
go
to?
I
can
taste
the
bullet.
I
I
need
help.
Where
do
I
go?
Who's
going
to
help
me
and
why
I
bring
that
up
now
and
we
have
still
not
heard
about
Mickey's
drinking
is
that
the
drinking
is
a
like
a
red
flag
that
flies.
My
relationship
with
alcohol
is
like
a
red
flag
that
flies,
that
tells
people
because
of
this
addictive
relationship
with
a
non
addictive
substance
already
we
got
heresy
on
the
table.
This
individual
has
alcoholism.
If
this
individual
has
alcoholism,
there's
a
whole
lot
more
wrong
with
him
than
the
way
he
drinks.
And
I
say
I'm
addicted
to
a
non
addictive
substance.
What
does
that
mean?
It
means
that
nine
out
of
10
people
in
this
world,
give
or
take,
these
are
mother-in-law
statistics.
9
out
of
10
people
can
drink
alcohol
with
more
or
less
impunity.
One
out
of
10
people
has
a
deadly
addictive
allergic
relationship
to
ethyl
alcohol,
and
nobody's
been
able
to
tell
me
how
many
drinks
do
you
have
to
drink
to
catch
alcoholism?
Seriously,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
what's
up,
well,
I
drank
so
much
I
became
alcoholic.
Is
that
how
it
worked
in
your
life?
I
was
down
to
shoot
when
it
started.
You
don't
have
to
buy
what
I
say.
We
know
that
nobody
speaks
for
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
I'm
here
to
share
with
you
my
experience,
strength
and
hope.
But
I'm
putting
this
out
because
I
want,
I
want
to
say
something.
I
want
to
say
this
is
a
real
disease.
And
when
I
stop
drinking,
I
ran
into
Mickey
and
I
couldn't
handle
him.
And
he
thought
these
terrible
things
and
he
was
erratic.
One
minute
he's
depressed,
the
next
minute
he's
going
to
run
IBM.
What
is
who
is
this
guy?
And
I'm
stuck
with
him.
And
I
got
to
bring
him
into
the
room.
Oh,
let's
have
a
potluck.
I
got
to
bring
Mickey
into
the
room.
Scared
me
to
death.
I'd
be
in
an
early
AA
meeting
and
people
would
say
it
was
a
discussion
meeting.
Mickey,
what
would
you
like
to
say
about
this?
And
I
had
to
pull
the
committee
inside
of
me
for
who
was
going
to
speak
because
I've
been
wearing
so
many
masks
for
so
long.
Trying
to
be
whatever
I
thought
you
wanted
me
to
be,
so
you
wouldn't
reject
me,
so
I
wouldn't
be
isolated.
So
I
had
that
go
in
my
whole
life.
What
did
it
look
like?
I
I
got
drinking
with
my
parents.
I
stole
alcohol
from
my
parents.
My
parents
would
have
a
party
and
I
would
drink
what
they
called
a
dead
soldiers.
The
dead
soldiers
were
whatever
drink
it
was.
Now
the
ice
is
melted
in
the
thing
and
we
just
eject
the
cigarette
butt.
Now
we're
going
to,
you
know,
social
drinker,
social
drinker
and
and
I
got
kicked
out
of
every
school
I
went
to
until
I
got
to
high
school.
I
got
kicked
out,
but
it
wasn't
like
let's
have
a
parent
teacher
conference.
Mickey
seems
to
be
disturbed
having
some
trouble.
It
was
get
the
hints
and
do
not
come
back
to
this
school.
And
I
want
you
to
know
what
I
did
with
addicts,
those
experiences,
I
thought,
what
is
wrong
with
them,
right?
We
are
bulletproof.
We're
going
to
die
behind
this
thing
and
we
don't
even
know
we're
in
prison.
And
I'm,
you
know,
I
got
to
think
so
in
the
eighth
grade,
which
I
also
got
kicked
out
of,
I
got
it
figured
out
for
the
first
time
in
my
life.
I
found
a
book
about
a
man
that
I
could
identify
with
completely.
His
name,
It
was
a
it
was
a
biography
of
Napoleon
Bonaparte.
Napoleon
Bonaparte
was
kind
of
a
runt
Corsican.
And
he
sat
back
and
he
said,
you
know,
he
looked
at
the
world.
He
says,
I
think
I
can
take
it.
And
he
did
a
good
job,
right?
I
read
this
book
and
I
thought,
my
God,
I'm
a
genius.
I
mean
this
sadly,
I'm
a
genius
and
they
don't
understand.
Sooner
or
later
they're
going
to
understand
that
I'm
a
genius.
Now
this
genius
is
about
to
get
kicked
out
of
another
school.
Because
I
would
do
things
like
the
teacher
would
say
something
I
didn't
like,
and
I
would
stand
up
in
the
classroom
and
tell
the
teacher
what
I
thought
of
him.
It
doesn't
wash
and
I
pulled
other
things
which
I
shudder
about.
Today
I
was
an
altar
boy
and
a
vandal
and
I
never
knew
which
one
was
going
to
show
up.
And
I
meant
both
of
them.
And
you
know
Bill
Wilson,
it
talks
about
him
going
into
the
Winchester
Cathedral
when
he
was
overseas
in
England
in
World
War
1,
and
he
walked
up
to
the
altar
and
he
said
he
knew
there
was
a
God.
And
I
was
in
Rapid
City,
SD,
at
Cathedral
Grade
School,
and
I
went
in
there
on
a
hot
afternoon
all
by
myself.
And
I
stood
in
that
church
and
I
stood
before
the
altar,
and
I
knew
there
was
a
God,
and
I
knew
that
the
train
was
waiting
me,
waiting
for
me
at
the
front
door
of
the
church.
I
had
the
God.
I
walked
out.
I
got
back
on
the
train
and
I
went
to
hell.
I
was
a
student
of
history.
I'll
give
you
an
idea,
they
said.
What
will
you
like,
Mickey?
I'll
tell
you
what
I
was
like.
I
grew
up
in
Europe.
When
I
was
in
France,
the
flea
market
looked
like
5th
Ave.
in
New
York.
Racks
and
racks
and
racks
of
clothes.
What
kind
of
clothes?
Not
to
uniforms.
They
turns
out
they
didn't
need
them
anymore.
Helmets,
decorations,
swords,
daggers,
guns,
all
of
this.
I
grew
up
with
that.
I
walked
across
the
battlefields
of
World
War
Two,
World
War
One.
I
got
immersed
in
all
of
that,
and
I
got
fascinated
because
of
total
ignorance
with
the
Nazis.
So
it's
8th
grade
Rapid
City,
SD
Cathedral
grade
school.
If
they're
going
to
have
show
and
tell,
can
you
see
this
one
coming?
So
I'm
going
to
bring
my
Nazi
memorabilia
to
the
just
ignorant.
They
headed
me
off
at
the
pass.
I
had
a
reaction
to
this
in
those
days,
the
nurse,
this
was
in
1960.
In
those
days,
the
nurses,
for
instance,
would
have
these
liquid
shoe
Polish,
right,
the
cotton
dauber
at
the
end
and
they
put
it
on
their
shoes
with
their
uniforms,
right,
and
go
to
work.
I
got
a
hold
of
one
of
these.
Honest
God
I'm
so
sorry.
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
idea.
So
on
Saturday
night
I
got
one
of
those
things
and
I
put
swastikas
in
the
school
windows
this
big
in
a
Catholic
grade
school
in
Rapid
City,
SD
And
I
showed
up
on
Monday
morning
and
my
henchman
was
pulled
out
of
class
1st
by
the
principal.
Now
Dan's
gone,
my
compatriot
in
this
thing
and,
and
I,
I,
I
know
this
is
it.
The
jig
is
up,
man.
I'm,
I'm
going
down
on
this
thing.
He
never
shows
back
up.
She
calls
me
out
in
the
hall.
I
walk
out,
the
first
things
out
of
my
mouth.
I
didn't
do
it.
She
says
you
didn't
do
what
I
said.
I
didn't
put
this
nailed.
So
while
my
classmates
graduated
and
you
graduated
from
8th
grade
in
their
suits
and
the
girls
were
in
their
pretty
dresses
and
they
got
to
go
to
the
first
dance,
I
stood
across
the
street
in
my
vinyl
motorcycle
jacket
smoking
old
gold
cigarettes
and
drinking
grain
Belt
beer.
Into
hell
with
you.
That's
what
I
was
like.
It's
like
I'm
talking
about
somebody
else.
I
was
never
geared
to
carry
that
weight.
I
was
never
designed
by
God
to
live
that
in,
that
alienation
from
my
own
soul.
And
here's
the
kicker.
I
applied
to
two
seminaries
to
be
a
priest.
Please
talk
to
me.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
can
relate
to
the
duality
of
these
positions.
They
are
completely
nuts.
And
I
really
wanted
to
be
a
Catholic
priest.
I
really
did.
But
the
train,
you
see,
and
I
wish
I
could
tell
you
that
it
was
the
ethyl
alcohol
that
caused
the
psychosis
here.
It
was
not
the
ethyl
alcohol.
If
I
told
you
that
I
drank
to
control
my
alcoholism,
would
that
mean
anything
to
you?
I
tried
to
get
my
medicine
to
put
out
the
torture,
and
I
wanted
to
be
a
good
boy.
I
sincerely
did
and
I
could
pull
it
off
sometimes.
So
that's
what
I
was
like
and
it
just
got
wetter
and
the
medicine
didn't
work.
And,
and
you
know,
Marie
talks
about
my
wife
talks
about
how
she'd
be
in
a
car
with
me.
We'd
gone
to
the
party.
I
get
in
the
car,
we're
going
home,
she's
driving
and
and
I'm
really
friendly.
She
looks
left,
turns
back
to
me
and
I'm
somebody
else.
Doctor
Jekyll
and
Mr.
Hyde.
And
I
did
not
know
what
was
wrong
with
me.
And
I
saw
psychiatrists,
psychologists.
I
I
went
and
talked
to
priests.
I
talked
to
anybody.
Please
help
me.
I
don't
know.
I'm
coming.
I
mean,
I
was
sketchy.
I
was
like
this.
I
was,
I
was
in
motion.
So
finally
I
got
to
this
satellite
health
thing
from
the
Denver,
Denver
County
Hospital.
They
had
satellite
offices
and
I
got
to
go
there.
And
how
much
did
it
cost?
Nothing.
Thank
you
very
much.
Because
I
wasn't
working.
And
I
go
in
to
see
the
psychologist
and
we
do
not
talk
about
drinking
ever.
I'm
just
bobbing
and
weaving
over
in
this
chair.
And
she
says,
you
seem
nervous.
Really.
And
she
says,
why
don't
you
take
this
Valium?
So
I'm
trying
to
fix
my
hangovers
with
Valium
and
alcohol.
That's
nice.
And
I'm
in
there
for
a
few
weeks.
And
after
a
while
now
I'm
seeing
her.
If
you've
ever
been
under
any
kind
of
psychiatric
care,
you
know,
there's
such
a
thing
as
a
50
minute
hour.
You
got
50
minutes.
Go
for
it
once
a
week.
So
I'm
doing
it.
Here
we
go.
I
don't
know.
I'm
just
coming
unglued.
And
SO
she
she
finally,
I
said
to
her,
listen,
few
weeks
and
I
said,
how
am
I
doing?
She
says,
do
you
really
want
to
know?
If
they
ask
you
that,
say
no.
I
said
yeah.
She
said,
Mickey,
you
are
the
most
negative
human
being
I
have
ever
met
in
my
life.
She
says,
I
don't
know
how
it's
possible
for
you
to
be
able
to
walk
around
the
streets.
Whoops.
Time
is
up.
I'll
see
you
in
a
week
if
you
don't
think
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
like
the
greatest
show
on
earth,
the
biggest
gift
from
God.
I
don't
know
what,
50
minutes
in
an
office
with
somebody
who
doesn't
know
what's
wrong
with
you
and
you
don't
know
what's
wrong
with
you,
and
you
got
to
wait
a
week.
I
was
coming
unglued,
so
I
came
into
AAI,
called
one
night
at
10:00.
Marie
was
out
at
a
class,
a
pottery
class.
I
was
with
our
daughter.
I
drank
for
the
first
three
years
of
our
marriage.
She
was
out.
I
called
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
as
I
said,
because
you've
got
alcohol
in
your
name.
And
they
said,
can
you
come
over
to
the
1311
York
St.
in
Denver?
And
I
said
no,
I
got
my
daughter
and
they
said,
look,
would
you
like
us
to
come
to
your
house?
I
said
please,
Marie's
gone.
So
she
comes
home
right
before
these
guys
arrive
at
the
front
door.
Meanwhile,
I'm
nervous,
like
what
are
the
neighbors
going
to
think?
Like
they
wear
sweatshirts
with
a
on
him
or
so
I
don't
know.
Nobody
gives
you
a
blueprint
for
your
own
12
steps.
So
I'm
I'm
cleaning
up.
I
don't
want
to
think
I'm
a
drunker.
And
so
Marie
gets
home.
And
I
said,
Marie,
I've
called
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
she
said,
and
I
said
they're
coming
over.
And
she
said,
should
I
stay?
I
said,
I
don't
know.
I
said,
we'll
ask
him.
So
the
doorbell
rings.
These
two
guys
are
there.
They
come
in.
I
said,
listen,
my
my
wife
is
not
alcoholic.
Is
it
OK
if
she
stays?
And
the
guy
looks
at
her
and
he
says,
can
you
be
honest?
And
she
said
yes.
And
I
vouched
for
and,
and
he
looks
at
my
wife
and
he
says,
the
first
thing
I
want
you
to
know
is
you
are
just
as
sick
as
he
is.
Thank
you,
God,
right?
Not
by
way
of
being
vindictive,
but
by
way
of
recognizing
the
fact
that
alcoholism
is
a
family
disease
and
my
wife
has
alcoholism
just
as
badly
as
I
have
alcoholism,
only
without
the
bottle.
And
the
Al
Anon
family
groups
are,
listen,
I'm
a
booster.
I'm
all
over
that.
So
the
12
steps
started
from
there.
I
came
into
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
I
went
to
my
first
meeting
the
next
day,
and
God
supported
me.
I'm
telling
the
whole
time,
obviously,
but
I'll
tell
you
this
last
thing
and
then
I'll
shut
up.
I
went.
Now
I'm
getting
about
to
get
ready
for
my
first.
I
was
in
advertising,
my
first
national
ad
agency
job.
Because
I'm
a
drunk
and
I'm
going
to
go
see
my
boss
and
I'm
going
to
tell
him
Bill,
I
know
what's
wrong
with
me.
So
we're
going
to
have
this
meeting
at
the
airport
and
I'm
there
and
I'm
ready.
Man,
I
got
my
London
fog
raincoat
on.
You
know,
it's
the
only
thing
on
me
that
had
any
spine.
We
meet
at
the
airport.
I
said,
Bill,
I
found
out
what's
wrong
with
me.
I'm
an
alcoholic
and
I'm
going
to
my
1st
a
a
meeting
today
and
he
just
looks
at
me
and
the
guy
was
a
telephone
freak
and
he
just
looks
at
me,
doesn't
say
a
word
and
gets
up
and
leaves.
Here
my
first
official
act
on
the
way
to
payday
and
glory
here
is
I'm
going
to
lose
another
job.
I'm
going
to
lose
my
job.
And
he
comes,
but
he
just
because
I
tell
you,
the
telephone
freak,
he
just
had
to
make
the
phone
call
now.
So
he
goes
up,
he
makes
the
phone
call,
he
comes
back
and
he
sits
across
the
table
from
me.
He
doesn't
say
a
word
and
looks
me
in
the
eye.
He
reaches
into
the
breast
pocket
of
his
coat
and
pulls
out
the
24
hour
a
day
book.
Right.
I
had
no
fancy
footwork.
I
got
nothing.
I'm
bringing
nothing
to
the
party
and
the
first
thing
I
get,
I'm
in
God's
hands
and
it's
going
to
be
OK.
How
many
of
us
have
been
waiting
for
that
sense
it's
everything's
going
to
be
OK?
And
we
tell
each
other
that
in
here.
And
for
40
years,
I've
had
the
privilege
of
being
able
to
tell
people
it's
going
to
be
OK,
you're
going
to
be
OK.
Follow
the
yellow
brick
road.
You're
going
to
be
OK.
I
just
love
you.
I'm
so
glad
to
be
with
you
tonight.
Anyway,
thank
you
for
listening.
So
we're
going
to
take
a
bit
of
a
break
now.
Let's
call
it
10
minutes
and
then
we'll
get
back
together
and
Peter
will
share.
How'd
I
do,
Coach?
Was
that
all
right?
Thank
you.
Where
are
you
from?
Harlem.
Where
you
from?
God
bless.
I
remember
you
up
there.
Thank
you
very
much.
Not
not
time
you,
yes,
so
could
you
see
you
again?
I
met
this
lady
the
first
fellowship
and
experience.