Fellowship of the spirit conference at St. John's University in New York, NY

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because I was in India and they didn't consult me before they wrote the four,
they wrote a 4th edition in 2001.
Now does anyone else ever do this? You buy a book, you take the paper cover, you crumble it up, you throw it away. And I can't tell you how many years it was before this guy pointed out to me that on the paper cover on the 3rd edition from 1976 where it says Alcoholics Anonymous 3rd edition, the inside paper cover that I used to throw away, not only does it say that up until then there were 300,000 copies of our book.
Up until 55,
150,000 recovered. One for every two books. Is that anywhere close to the number now? No,
but there's a much more important paragraph. No one ever showed me because I would go to these service conferences and the big debate was trinkets, money, this controversy, that controversy, and some little person would raise their hand, say what did Bill Wilson say service is? And somebody from GSO would say service is anything that makes carrying the message possible.
Then somebody would have the nerve to say
what's the message? And you would think the whole room was just going to go into an uproar.
That's what they should have been talking about. But on the paper cover they used to tell us, and here's what it said in 76. The basic text, page one through 164 remains unchanged. This is the A A message just as it was introduced in 1939.
Let's look at what they've done in the only time they've been allowed to change it since 1976. They couldn't change page one through 164. There's a catch 22. Thank God, because every one of us in this in this room would have had some major changes to make in one through 160. There's a catch 22. You got to have a vote from 3/4 of all the groups to change page 164. But look what they did to the paper cover that used to say page one through 164 is the A A message
Now it says
the basic text page one through 164, which had been the foundation of recovery for so many Alcoholics, remains unchanged. They don't even say it's the message anymore. They say it used to be the foundation for many Alcoholics. And they might as well said, as far as the way it feels to me, the way it's written, they might as well have written this
page one through 164, which had been the foundation of recovery. So for so many
of those poor Alcoholics and a a that's had to do, it remains and still remains unchanged. But now they're saying it's something that had been just the foundation for so many of us. It's not even the message anymore.
How about this one?
Dear God, have mercy on Alcoholics Anonymous. They're going to change this
forward to the 4th edition.
The difference between a meeting online and the Home group around the corner are the same modem to modem, face to face. A a speak the language of the heart. My God help us. They're telling us that me online on a screen is the same as my Home group around the corner.
Now, they could have said that online you might get in touch with us. It might be helpful if you're outside the country or you're alone up in Podunk, Arkansas or someplace. But to say that modem to modem or face to face it's the same, and that your Home group around the corner where you look another each each other's eyes is the same as a meeting online is a sad reflection of what's going on in Alcoholics Anonymous, the only time they've been able to change it since 1976.
We should all be writing letters to them, right?
They don't even know what they don't even tell us on the paper cover. What's the A message now? It's something that had been
one through 1 through 164 is now a has been.
Another question to consider before 1:00 somewhere in step one,
Do you have more than two alternatives on page than the ones that are on page 25? Start to consider it, see what alternatives come up. Maybe there's some new alternatives after 10 years that weren't alternatives at at six months.
Maybe you're going to find some new reservations after 15 years that weren't even considerations for somebody that was new.
Maybe lurking notions. The book refers to lurking. Here's how anal retentive my Home group is in Santa Monica. There's a line that talks about lurking notions. They actually would have a meeting where somebody would use as a topic and people would talk about what color would a new lurking notion be? Where would it be in the room this year? Would they change size? Would they change shape? Would they look prettier? Lurking notions after 15 years that weren't there in the corners at 5. New lurking notions.
Current agnosticism,
current unmanageability, the current manifestations of page 52. That's what I get excited. That's where I am. I just spent longer in the in the set aside prayer and the first three steps than I have in 20 years.
And you know what I saw? I didn't have to get fucked up in step one. I didn't have to go crazy. 10:11 and 12:00 work.
I've been in a set aside prayer since November 2001.
I've been in the first three steps since January.
All right, now I'm in inventory. I get to be here in inventory without saying, oh, I'm all screwed up, I'm in inventory. People in my Home group now say things like this. Oh, I saw that I was all screwed up and it was time to do the work again. You know what I say to him? How could you be screwed up if you saw it was time to do the work again? People that are all screwed up never see that it's time to do the work again. You're awake. You're awake if you know it's time to do the work again. Not many people get to do it again.
I used to see the steps as separate.
You kind of got one over here. Mark just talked about it. Step one's over here. And you know what I used to think? Step one's only true when you're in it.
When you're formerly in step one, that's the only time that truth is true. But shouldn't the experience go like this? Shouldn't two deepen one? Shouldn't 3 deepen one? I'm talking the first half of 1 without any dash. Don't get stuck on the dash. They're the same. The unmanageability is a drink. There's no separation between the 1st. That's a mistake him and I used to make. The first half of step one. The second-half of Step 1. The unmanageability is a drink with a name and a face to
you because you think you're innocent.
There's no dash.
I used to see the steps like circles. One over here, 2 separate. Now I'm in hope. Three is over here, 4 is over here. Inventories in the trunk, locked in a box. Nobody's going to see it. Can't show it to anybody. Don't. Don't share it with the closest person in my life and the person I love more than anybody in the world. We keep our program separate. Nuts. Let me get that right. Let me see now, the most important person in the world
with the most important relationship you both have, which is with God,
you're going to keep it separate. We keep our programs separate. I would like to have a wife that one day we go through the work together. Wouldn't that be something? I know couples that have do the work together go to means you like, but the program ain't just the groups you like. Let her go where she likes. Let her go where she can complain about you. You go where you can complain about her. Come together, do the work, love God together. We keep our program separate. It's nuts.
Then I started to see the steps as a straight line,
1:00 to 12:00,
back to 1:00 to 12:00. Nobody in this room will ever be able to go back through the steps ever again. You go from where you are forward. The first step this time ain't going to be the first step from the last time. We're going to bring up considerations that are not valid for somebody doing the work the first time that we've had to consider with lengths of time.
So how do I see the steps now if they're not separate entities, they're not a straight line. The steps are a circle. If anybody in this room, let me ask you this, if 12 doesn't take you to a realization of one, I don't know what does because they're bringing the first step to your house every other day. Check this out. Oh, check this out. Those are the people that stay in one that are involved in 12.
Why you having trouble with 12? He mentioned it. It's not just unfinished amends that go back to step one.
Ah, I don't need to do 10 and 11. I get a little flaky. It doesn't matter. Pray in the car. You're having trouble with 1011 because you've lost the consciousness of the first step, not the knowledge. You could go to the university, your Home group, down to the detox. You give a great lecture on step one. Physical craving, mental obsession, spiritual malady. Do it on the board. Do it fancy. Do it jazzy. Do it rap, do it rhyme. Do it however you want to do it, but you can't. But you're having trouble with 10:11 and 12:00 or 10:00 and 11:00 or finishing the men's. It's not
because you've lost the knowledge of step one. It's because you've lost the consciousness of step one that reminds you. It pushes you into 1011, pushes you into working with others.
One more thing,
another question. Is grace sufficient? Do I want a conscious contact?
Grace is sufficient only as long as ignorance lasts. Grace only lasts as long as ignorance. You see some truth, you better have some power to do something with it. You need a little bit more than grace when you start to see some truth.
Few comments on the first step maybe some of you can take with this evening
bringing your consciousness. Maybe we come back tomorrow. But
you know, a lot of you raised your hands, you've got some time away from a drink and I, I think a valid question. Well,
how do you, how do you look at the first step, having time away from a drink? And then Joe's been talking about the use of 10/11 to do that and the use of meditation as a vehicle. And that's how you do that.
You you use prayer and meditation as you begin to reflect on your experience with alcohol,
terms of the craving of the body.
Have I experienced this? And you begin to use prayer meditation in the 10 step tools and 11 step as you begin to look at pages 23 to 43.
And it describes several states of mind sober from which you drink from
several states, mine including ultimately the strange mental blank spot. And it talks about Fred Frank. Fred drank when there's not a cloud in the horizon and you go back into your consciousness. And what starts to bubble up for me in in the middle of all that is I happen to get taken back into because my deals current see, how do I have a current experience with step one?
How do I do that? And when I get taken into is I get taken in looking at a period of time and the number of situations I was in that a guy like me drinks in every time.
Might have some problems at work, might be relationship problems, might be physical health problems, might be financial. Take your pick. Could be health.
And that stuff starts to bubble up again. And I begin to see the amount of grace and the conscious contact that I had in the course of the time prior to where I'm looking at it now. And I begin to see that I've been taking the times to that strange mental blank spot.
Tell you I I just had a real, real
profound experience with this area. I'm going through a thing of smoking, not smoking and I'm not involved with this other than getting to go along for the ride. But
last December, this is the kind of guy I am with anything. I I wouldn't check myself into a place for a week to get past the initial DTS off that shit. And
I had about 25 days
and I was doing everything they told me in the program.
You know, I've given this to God and I had three people in my support system
and I left work one day and this thought came in and I of course, this is in conjunction with going back through this process and, and the thought filtered through my mind. It'd be nice to have a cigarette
and so I made the first call. I thought I'd try that.
I've never believed in that because there wasn't my experience at work, but I thought I would try it. Maybe I'd miss something. I'm open minded. So I call and I indicate that I'm having this obsession with this one, the cigarette. And they gave you all this shit, you know, you know, and OK, yeah, thank you very much. Yeah. Get, get that suck bitch off the line. And I get a little further down the road and it's just just my it's just filling my car up now. Part of me just, you know,
my head's, you know, right down the road there's you know, and so I make the second call, make a Long story short, I make all three calls and I zoomed into a 711. I got me the cigarette and I and I got home that night and I'm sitting there choking on that cigarette and
reflecting on me and alcohol
and that grace Joe talked about touched me and I sat there and I cried
all these years. Nay, And I think I'm doing something to keep myself sober.
See my God just and you lose you lose you, you lose that. See I'm the kind of guy when I want to drink and nothing getting between me and a drink and God removed that from me. And I had to have that damn experience with nicotine to be shown to be convinced to my innermost self once again and surrender to this thing called alcoholism. At almost 20 years without a drink, just sat and cried in by God. You can tell I still cry when I when I think about it,
when I think about this grace and this power and what it's done for me because when a guy like me wants something and I want to drink. She had sponsor spiritual retreat person, you know,
get the hell out of my way. I'm going for it. See. Wow, what an incredible deal. So maybe give some thought to some of those pages. And
tomorrow we're going to talk some more about unmanageability. And I'm like Joe, it's, it's about drinking. We are going to talk about it though some of the stuff on page 52 bedevilments great word. I think we're going to talk more about that tomorrow. So our session tomorrow, first one starts at I believe 9:00 AM. OK, I'm hoping, I'm hoping that with each step
we can meet those hearts in this room
that are doing the work for the first time. I'm hoping we can meet those who think they've been through the steps and they're stuck on 9 1/2. I'm hoping we can meet those very few who've entered the world of the Spirit with considerations for each step. So here's two, here's a couple considerations. You're looking at the work for the first time. 2 considerations. That's all there is. Do you lose control when you start and can you keep yourself stop when you stop?
Those that have been around for a while and have done one through 9 and a half, one through 9 3/8, one through 9 and 5/8,
here's a consideration.
Don't you kind of feel like a hypocrite when you say God is everything, but you know He wouldn't be there for the physical craving if you took a drink?
And for those of you on the other side of a set of amends, here's the consideration.
How can you still say you're powerless over alcohol and your life is unmanageable when you've been given power and the power to manage your life for a long period of time? I'm not saying you got power over alcohol. I'm not saying you can drink. I'm saying, how long can you go hiding behind? I'm powerless over alcohol and my life is unmanageable and blame it on being an alcoholic. When you've entered this world of the Spirit and you've recovered,
you've been given power, something's come between you and alcohol,
and you're not going to find your first step tomorrow in trying to get back to what it was like.
Those of you that have been around for a while should look at what it was like. What happened? Something came between you and alcohol many years ago, but what is it like now with alcohol? Is there any more freedom? Do I feel like a hypocrite when I say God is everything, but it's still my master 'cause I'm afraid if I accidentally took a drink, the craving would be there? Do I have reservations, new reservations,
God's everything, or nothing? What does that really mean?
I've ingested alcohol in the last 20 years.
One time I was at a party. There's a glass of water. I didn't take a sip. I didn't smell it. I didn't taste it. I thought it was water. I took a big swing. Half a glass was vodka.
God was there. I didn't turn into a werewolf. He's been there for the mental obsession. He's been there for the spiritual malady. He's been there in every area of your life. But now you got some that we're going to call the current agnosticism in your life that'll make you feel like a hypocrite when you approach the idea whether God's everything or nothing. And if you've been around for a while and you're looking at these first three steps again, is it possible that when they say fearlessly face the proposition that God is everything or nothing, How can you go to the second
scared of drinking again? Because your fear of drinking again is based in an idea that you can do something to keep yourself from drinking again. Because fear is about self-reliance. Anybody that's been around and done inventory knows that. And when they say fearlessly face the proposition, I think they mean fearlessly without fear. Friend of mine told me the other day, the book doesn't mean without fear. When they say it fearlessly, they mean with fear, but you do it anyway. No it doesn't
taken the second step without fear because I saw my fear of step one was rooted. It's the hardest one to see any fear you got's rooted in an idea that you can do something about that fear without God on your own power. Because fear is about self-reliance. Let me tell 2 funny stories about people that want to keep you sick, People that want to keep you in the delusion.
You know those kind of sponsors, they don't point you that they don't point you to God, they point you to them. Call me, you need me, I'll I'll edit your men's list. Call me every day, I'll run your life. I know sponsors in Southern California, believe it or not, that have told people who they're going to marry.
Can you imagine?
Show up, suit up. Come here, go there. Do this.
You point him to God because you can't keep him sober anymore. You can keep yourself sober.
Sponsors that are like that don't believe they're alcoholic. They believe they're God. They got power over alcohol and Alcoholics.
So
guy goes to one of these sponsors, He said you've been my advisor for many years. I got 2 problems. He said only two. What are they? He said I'm in love with two women.
He said tell me about him. He said one's beautiful.
I love her with all my heart, but she's poor as a church mouse. What about the other one? Well, she's attractive, kind of plain, got all the money in the world. He says, well, don't you think you should marry the woman that you see is beautiful just the way she is, regardless of what she has or doesn't have?
He says, I knew you were gonna say that I'm gonna marry her.
He's walking out the door. The sponsor goes, uh, excuse me, could I have the number of that other girl you were talking about?
Here's another one about those that want to keep your delusions alive. They want to keep your lies alive.
Newcomer to the neighborhood
Just moved in. It's a newcomer. It's a newcomer. It's a newcomer. Walks down to the local bar. He's walking in drunks, walking out drunk. Gets in an imaginary car, starts an imaginary engines, drives off.
Guy thinks it's a little strange. The newcomer goes in the bar, has a few drinks, goes home. Next night, same thing. He's going in, the drunks coming out, imaginary car, Imaginary engine drives off in the imaginary car.
He says what we should be saying. He says to the bartender,
you know the bartender in your Home group. He says to the bartender, the guy's serving up the stuff, right? He says to the He says to the bartender, why don't you tell the guy the truth? He says, are you kidding me? He pays me 100 bucks a week to keep his car clean.
That's what they're doing.
Thanks. Let's go. Let's go. Rest. We'll see you at 9:00 in the morning.
My name's Mark Houston. I'm an alcoholic.
How are we all doing this morning?
I allow people say, well, you know how? How was your night's sleep? And I said, you mean all three hours?
They were, They were a great three hours. And then me and Mike and Ken met at 6:00 and
spent some time in prayer and meditation. Then we went down and worked out for 1/2 hour. And I tell you that to brag,
and here we are. I want to read a couple things. And then Joe and I were talking the this morning. I'm going to spend some time going through what I call a methodology of the first reconsiderations
as we have been shown as outlined in our big book. And then he's got some things to say, and
we're going to do some of that stuff this morning. Virtually all the entire afternoon is going to be spent on steps 4 through 9. We're going to do a bunch of stuff, have some fun with a process we call Theater of the Lie
in which you get a chance to kind of see inventory come alive. You get a chance to see what you're up against and
then tomorrow the whole morning is going to be devoted to the strict spiritual disciplines of steps. 10/11/12 But I would like to read something. This is from a book called 365 Dow Daily Meditations says practice says spiritual success is gained by daily cultivation.
If you practice for the day then you have one. If you are lazy for the day, then you have lost
self. Cultivation is the heart of spiritual attainment. Gaining insight inability is not a matter of grand dramatic initiations or sporadic moments of enlightenment. Those things are only highlights in a life of consistent activity. Whatever system of spirituality you practice, do it every day. If it's prayer, then prayer every day. If it's meditation and meditate every day. If it is exercised, then exercise every day.
Only then will you be able to say that you're truly practicing spirituality. This methodical approach is reassuring in several ways. First, it provides you with a process and a means to maintain progress, even if that particular day is not inspiring or significant.
Just to practice is already good.
Secondly, it gives you a certain faith. If you practice every day, it is inevitable you will gain from it. Thirdly, constant practice gives you a certain satisfaction. How can you say to yourself you have truly entered a spiritual path unless you can look back on years of daily practice and take comfort in the momentum that it has given you?
Unbeknownst to me, every area of my life,
including spiritual practices, the effect produced by alcohol, which was instantaneous and very spiritual in nature, I thought should happen with everything I've ever done in my life. You know, start work on Monday and you should be CEO by Friday.
You want to lose some weight on Monday and it's not off by Friday. And just, you know, I didn't know that I was asleep to that, that that's how I came out. Everything. The idea of years of practice just did not have a lot of appeal to me
because again, I'm I'm looking for effect, if you will. So one other thing I want to read, I call it's called the donkey. I don't know if you all know this, but you all, you all wrote a donkey here this morning.
So it's called donkey. Dismount your donkey
says Some places in this world are very hard to climb and people use animals. Each person can only ride one,
and each animal might have a different name.
The writers go up the trail in different orders, and they will discuss their varying opinions about their experiences. Consider like going through the steps right, your Home group, whatever.
They may even have conflicting opinions.
Can you imagine?
One traveler may think the trip thrilling, another may find it terrifying, and a third may find it boring. At the summit, though, all the travelers are going to stand the same place. Each of them has the same chance to view the same Vista. The donkeys, meaning the steps however you got to the summon, are then put to rest in graze. They're not needed anymore. We all travel the path to God.
The donkeys are the various doctrines that each of us embrace. What does it matter what doctrine we embrace as long as it leads us to the summit?
Your donkey might be a Zen donkey, mine might be a Dow donkey. This Christian, Islamic, Jewish, even agnostic donkeys. Let's see in in a there's 12312 donkeys. There's a
doing the steps is outlining the big book donkeys. There is back to the basic donkeys. There's one step a year donkeys. There's all kinds of donkeys. There's meeting maker, maker donkeys. There's just don't drink and go to meeting donkeys,
it says.
Why poke fun at others over the name of their donkey? Aren't you writing one yourself?
We need to put aside both the donkeys and our interim experiences once we arrive at the summit. Whether we climbed and suffering or joy is immaterial. We are there.
All religions have different names for the ways of getting to the Holy Summit, but once you reach the summit, you no longer need names and we can experience all things directly.
So let's all leave our donkeys aside this weekend and for an open mind and an open mind and a new experience. I want to talk about, for lack of a better word, I'll call it methodology, a donkey, a discipline and practice. How do I work with the considerations of the first three-step. We talked last night for those who weren't here, we talked about the idea of
call it the zero step, call it the step before the step, but to sit with some questions before you
go through this process of the steps. And one of those questions was, do I want to do this?
And you get to decide that nobody can decide that for you. So do I do I want to do this? Why do I want to do this? That's always a great question. Why do I want to do this? Why do I want to do the steps? And then we we talked about willing to go to any length
and we painted a clear picture what that looks like willing to go to any length. If you answer the first two questions and you're satisfied with that, willing to go to any link means that that we're going to look at the first step.
You know, do I have an illness of the body? Am I physically powerless over alcohol once I take a drink? Do I have an obsession of the mind in my direct experience, if I committed the most insane act sober when I didn't want to, do I suffer from what the big book calls the spirituality, untreated alcoholism? Do I know what that looks like?
We're going to look at that step one, you know, Step 2,
two parts of the second step. Are you going to be willing to believe is a power greater than yourself?
You're faced with a self-imposed crisis. You're going to be willing to choose that powers everything in your life.
We're going to look at the third step. And are you convinced an elite based on self will cannot and will not work? And we're going to talk about that probably quite a bit here this this weekend because you really come up against that when you get some time away from alcohol and your life gets better.
And if you're convinced of that, then you're we're going to finally look at the idea of what's really wrong with us. And I got bad news for those of you who think alcohol or drugs is your problem, your problem is selfishness and self centeredness.
And they go on and and they really start to amp us up a little and say that as a matter of fact, they're so audacious that they're going to tell us that at some point in time we made decisions based on self, which places this position to be hurt every time, not occasionally
every time. And that all of our troubles of our own making.
All, ALL,
you know,
boy, who wants to hear that? You know, maybe it has something to do, you know, with my race or gender or mom or dad or all,
you know, it's like, what does that mean? You know, it says when we're going to talk about that, we're going to talk about another sentence, which I find somewhat important. Seldom talked about in our halls is, is that above everything you and I have to get rid of selfishness or it's going to kill me.
That's very seldom a topic in meetings. I think that's think about it's going to kill you and we don't talk about it, right?
You don't think they meant above it then? I had a guy say to me one time, well, what is above everything mean,
you know,
or it selfishness is going to kill us. And you know, we got to embrace the idea that only God can make that possible. Seeing you got to talk about this and they're willing to go to stay linked because if you got some struggles with God, you might not want to go through this process, you know, and then we're going to talk about a third step decision, bottom of page 62 and a four part relationship in that decision. We're going to talk about the third step prayer, which is not the decision. That prayer is going to be an affirmation of the decision.
Do you want to do that? There's no Amen behind the prayer because you're going to open up a stream of action and a stream of consciousness, which is why the book is going to warn you very heavily. You better think very well before taking this step, making sure you're ready. Ready for what? Ready to do 4 through 12. Better sit down. You don't think about this. You're willing to go to any link. You know you're willing to do this. You're willing to submit and surrender to this ahead of everything else in your life. And we're going to we're going to write 3 inventories, a resentment inventory, 4 column
who were angry at people, institutions and principles, why and how that affected us, her threat and interfere what 7 areas itself.
Then we're going to disregard that. And we're going to take a look at what's called a fourth column. Where are we at fault? Disregard the other person completely. It's our inventory, not theirs. We're the we're the ones going to die. Then we're going to write a fear inventory. You know, imagine that tough macho drunks going to write a fear inventory. You know, all this won't take long
days and weeks later, you know,
and then we're going to write a sex inventory, another area that I seldom ever hear discussed in Alcoholics Anonymous. I can't never figure that one out either. But we are going to talk about that this weekend, this sex inventory list. You know, you get tired of making lists and answering a whole bunch of questions. And then we're going to talk about you can. Now you're going to take that, you're going to read it to somebody. Are you willing to do that? And Joe and I are going to suggest an experience to some of you which is outlined in the big book that you read your inventory to
person.
And then as a result of reading that inventory, we have come face to face with a lot of defects that are ego uses to operate in the world.
And we put a name to them and we see how they drive and dominate our life in the sixth step. And then the 7th step, we are basically going to ask our creator to remove that from all of us. Good. And Ben, or am I willing to do that? And then the 8th step, we're going to spend some time, we're going to make a list of all the people we've harmed. All a or is that all word again?
All the people owe money to, all the people I've stole from, all the people I robbed emotional security from,
and the list goes on and on and on. We're going to make that list and we're going to be very thorough with that list. Mother Earth, how many of you have ever littered raise your hands?
Did you ever consider you? Oh, Mother Earth and amends. Some of you have.
So we're going to make a list of all the amends, and then we're going to go make the amends. We're going to pay all the money back.
We're going to go find these people. We're going to get on the Internet. We're going to call friends. We're going to get on a mission. They kind of like the Blues Brothers. We're on a mission from God,
and you're going to keep that in the forefront of your consciousness until till it's done, the approaches are made.
And are you willing to do that? You know, it's like, well, I don't know, my life's pretty comfortable. I owe a little money. I don't know if I want to do that or not. Hey, it's your deal, not my deal. But that's what we're going to do. If you want, if you're willing to go to any links, right,
then we're going to talk about the 10th and 11th step. And if you're willing to go any link, what that means is you're only going to get three hours sleep and you're going to meet with two other guys at 6:00 AM in the morning. You're going to spend some time in prayer and meditation whether you want to or not.
It's like I, I still laugh about that. You know, you,
you know what I'd rather been doing at 6:00 this morning?
Not sitting there with Mike and Ken. Now. Now, like everything else in spiritual living, when I got to the other side of that meditation, I was so grateful that Mike asked me last night and Ken asked me if we could do that together. I was so grateful. That is not how I was experiencing that at 5:30 this morning when the alarm went off.
Are you willing to do that? You know, are you willing to sit in meditation, willing to work with the disciplines of 10/11 And you know, you want to spend the rest of your life trying to be a service to God and your fellow human beings in the 12th step, being inconvenienced and running here and going there and
jeez, Mark, I just don't want to drink, you know, in this a bit much here, you know,
getting a little carried away on us. Are you buddy? You know, it's just,
you know, I just prefer not to drink and go to meetings. And so, well, unfortunately, that doesn't work, you know, and if you've been sober for a time, you're up against a whole another set of stuff, right?
So that's what we looked at for those of you weren't here last night, I'm willing to go to any length. And at least at this point in time, I think you'll have a clear picture what that looks like, right? See. And now you get to decide do you want to do that?
So, you know, again, the first step proposition. Let's see Diane alcoholic death or do what Mark just talked about. I I don't know, let me think about that a little bit. You know, and because that's what we do, right. And I'll tell you why it's a first step reservation because we don't think all the stuff that willing to go to any length as it's outlined in the big book. We don't think doing that or not doing that is anything to do with whether we drink or not or lead any kind of a life with power piece happiness in a sense of direction.
If you'll hear one thing for me this weekend to remember, here's what it is.
If you want to know what you believe in, look at your actions. Do not pay any attention what your mind tells you. Oh, I'm spiritual and I'm listening over here screwing people over. It don't fit in the same box. So this weekend sit and look at your actions to to tell you where you're at with the first step. Do you need power those kinds of things. Example. This may make a little make it a little clearer when Joe and I talk about Steps 1011 on
Sunday morning. You'll see in there that the book says we need to be doing this every day.
So here would be a question you could ask yourself. Just take the last 14 days and ask yourself, what have you done with the disciplines of 10/11 in the last 14 days? And if you find that you only did something two or three days out of the 14, I submit to you that you are having some first step reservations. You are resting on your laurels. See, my laurels are what I did yesterday. I woke up today. It's all new. I've never been in this moment before in my life. I've never experienced this breath. I've never
experienced you. I've never experienced Joe in this moment.
Never. I can't rest on the laurels. And I closed my eyes last night. That was it. It was done. My spiritual life was over. I woke up today started all over again with Mike and Ken. Thank God. See, thank God I did fit. Spiritual condition. Great new day. Get to start all over. Not resting on the laurels of yesterday. It doesn't matter, right?
So that's all the kind of stuff that we looked at. So let's go back to what I'll call a basic mechanics of the first three steps. Doctor's Opinion to page 23.
You take the big book, you turn statements into questions, and really what you're doing is looking at one thing and one thing only, and that is that when I take a drink, do I lose power, choice and control over how much I drink? There's a total of 33 pages there. You got the Doctor's Opinion is 10 pages long.
Some of the most important information in the entire book about your first step,
A man who has tremendous experience with us, who told us what was wrong through observation. As far as I can tell, everything medical science has come up with as I sit here this morning
actually confirms the doctors observations about what's wrong with us. This idea that we take a drink and the drink takes us because we break out in a phenomenon called craving and we don't know why. Well, they do know why today
our DNA is a little bit different than other people.
They have a device in them in which they'll have a drink or two and their physical body says stop, this is not good for you,
no more is needed. Pass.
We have things to do tomorrow
and they walk away.
We don't have that little guy,
See, We take a drink
and it just explodes into my God. I wonder how many bottles of wine they got back there?
God, where have you been?
I've been longing for you today. You know, just
20 years later, you know he's still talking to you because of a phenomenon called craving.
You take the drink and the drink takes you and you're going to look at that in those pages. And you got, of course, Bill's story, 1st 8 pages and Bill's story. Do you think, drink and feel like Bill to identify am I like Bill
Pages 9 up through 16 are our bills recovery? Am I willing to do what Bill did? And then Bill also described the promises that manifest as a result of doing what it was that he did.
So then from there you're going to go up through page bottom of page 22, top of page 23 and looking at the physical body stops
and then ask yourself a question. Does your experience abundantly confirm that you are like these people? Does this happen to you? And if yes, then you know you're physically powerless. Pages 23 to 43 is where you're going to come face to face with this idea that the main problem of the alcoholic centers in the mind rather than in the body. You begin to get the feeling of pages 23 to 43 that
there that there's there's an explanation as to why the Big Book does not spend much time talking to you and I about drinking,
making alcohol. It's because that's not the problem.
The problem is that sober, I have a mind that takes me back to alcohol based on what I alcohol does to me. Once it's in my body, which is I lose control and I begin to suffer these consequences. And there's 20 pages there. And those 20 pages and, and are designed to convince you of something. And that is that the most insane thing you're ever going to do, you're going to do sober. And there's nothing you can do about it. At certain times
it's going to go on and tell you that you've lost the power of choice and drink sober
20. Pay attention. 23 to 43 are talking to you about the state of consciousness you're in this morning. You are sober and is trying to impress upon you you've lost the power of choice in drink sober and it goes on to tell you why.
I'll elaborate a little on this. This issue
choice comes from Will.
Big Book says at certain times your will is unavailable to you.
So there were some of you in here said you're choosing not to drink today. If choice comes from well, and I strongly suspect it does, how how do you have a choice in drinking if your wills unavailable to you? That's why it says that in there,
says at certain times you're going to be able to bring into your consciousness with sufficient force, which is where choice comes from the suffering humiliation of a week or a month ago. You are without defense against the first drink.
You don't think they meant without defense, do you?
And it goes on further. And for those of you have this idea of thinking it through, it talks about a state of consciousness. And I'll bet everyone here has experienced it where you do not think at all.
You do not think at all. And then you're pounding on the bar saying, how did I get here? You do not even think at all. And you begin to look at your experience and say, my God, did these things happen to me? And they talk about that crazy jaywalker, you know, in and out of a A and in and out of treatment centers and sanitariums and,
you know, keeps jumping out and jaywalking, keeps getting hit by the fire truck and saying this dog won a Jay Rock. It won't get me. And I So you start to look at your experience in another way and say, my God, that's me. How many times have I done? Then they talk about Jim
Steps 123 drink 123, drink 123 drink 123 drink decision followed by no action.
Jim tells us to carefully review what led up to the first drink and they lead you into something behind that. It says the bottom line is we really don't know why we take the drink. We talked about that. I drink when I'm on top of the world and I drink when I'm on the bottom. I drink when I got money and drink when I don't. I drink with cheese my life and I drink when she's not. I drink when Dad's alive, I drink. When he's dead, I drink. That's what I do. I don't need a reason to drink.
And so you begin to look at that, that idea, and then it goes a little bit further and, you know, talks about a guy named Fred. I've always liked Fred.
Now my story is not like Fred's, but I can relate to this. The day that Fred picked up a drink, there wasn't a cloud on the horizon. Life is going good.
You know, he had a woman in his life he wanted and he had the career he wanted and he had finances and
all that other kind of stuff. And you had a great day.
Crossed the threshold of a room, his mind said. Be nice to have a little cocktail before dinner.
And goes on to say there was nothing he could do but act on that.
Six days later, he wound up in a taxi cab in New York City asking himself, how did he get here?
So those of you who are feeling great in your life is very manageable today
and there's not a cloud in the horizon.
You're like him too.
Then they finally describe the alcoholic mind. When they say the main problem centers in the mind, the alcoholic mind. And then then they describe it. It's called a strange mental blank spot. And in a strange mental blank spot, all the self knowledge and all the willpower and all the reasons to not drink and all your time away from a drink are going to be completely unavailable to you.
And from that place you will drink.
And then they sum us up in the bottom of page 43
once more. Mark at certain times has no effective mental defense against the first drink. Is your this your experience, Mark? Mark, has it been your experience in the last year?
See, I, I submit to you that every single one of you in here in the last year, if you took this into powerful consideration and said, God, show me the number of times last year when I should have been drinking that I wasn't. Through your grace and love, you'll be shown some
because I don't know about you, but
it didn't take much to move me toward to drink alcohol. I've gone through a few things in the last year. We all have,
you know, we go through things, right? Because life, that's just what life is. Ups, downs, lows, highs. See, and I didn't drink.
My defense has to come from this power greater myself. And so, you know, you sit with that
then you know, they talk about the unmanageability of her life, the idea that that's an internal condition. It can manifest externally, but it's an internal condition. Some of the words that are used to describe it are restless, irritable, discontent. Some of the stuff on page 52, the bedevilments having trouble in personal relationships. I've added a new one to that that I like to look at and that is that. What's the condition of your internal dialogue that you have with yourself?
How would you like to have a print out of that to pass out to friends?
I've often thought about that. We're in a meeting of AA and the topic is God, right? And somehow we could flash up on the screen just 15 second blips of what's going through every member's mind in there. They just go lock us up somewhere and the topic is God, right? You know what are you having trouble in personal relationships? Where are you at with this internal, internal dialogue you're having with yourself? You thought life trouble and personal relationships. How is that?
Start with the one with yourself. What kind of relationship are you having with yourself in every area of your life?
The mental relationship, Your thought life, if you will? The emotional relationship you're experiencing with yourself? The physical relationship you have with yourself? Start with yourself first.
How do you do in taking care of yourself? From there, begin to look at other relationships,
significant others begin to look at your relationships at work. You know, there's a great exercise if you're in delusion about page 52. Go up to 10 people who care about you. If you have that many left and
all right, terrible
and say to him, I have a question for you and you can, you can tell him some guy put you up to this,
say I'm real curious how I show up to you and have a notebook and be a little prayed up first
and do that with about 5 or 10 people and you may be real surprised, very, very surprised. That's an exercise I like to give people. How am I showing up to you? How do I show up to you in this relationship? See,
I did that with my employees about a year ago. Then I had to write inventory when they gave me the responses.
Thank God that I'm open and minded enough to do that because there was some stuff I need to look at that I was asleep to. Thank God I'm not open minded. Right, but how is it with your emotional nature? How is it with money
making a living, making a life? How is it with being full of fear?
You still go through the day packed full of fear. Little vulture starts talking to you in the morning. About time you got up.
Got some things I want to say to you. You know, we all got that little guy, right? You know, we, we do theater of the light of day. It's basically kind of like a board meeting. You've all had several today. It started first thing this morning, your board meeting and you, most of you have one or two main people that call the meeting to order. It's not always the spiritual man or woman, I can assure you, right?
You know, sometimes the four agreements talks about, it's the judge. Get up, we've got things to talk about.
Joe Hawk brought Apollo's unfinished immense. Sit down. I got to talk to you. Must have had nine here. Come up to me, said. Oh God, always open.
Boy, you had a fun meeting this morning, didn't you? You know,
judges saying, see, I told you you needed to made that amendment right. You have those kind of dialogues. You know, how is it with all that stuff?
You know you're going to sit and take a look at that. Call it the unmanageable of your life. Call it the spiritual malady.
Can you be at peace with yourself? Where are you at with this need for approval and acceptance that'll lead you to be dishonest with others? Not authentic and genuine. You know
where you at with all that you know,
So you sit and you look at that experience and you get done with that and you're faced with a question that is, do you need power?
Are you interested in any of this changing? Would you like to get involved with that process?
Is like a power of your dilemma.
Is lack of power your dilemma? Great question. See, I don't my experience. Is this
anything that you're going to look at in the first step that perhaps you would like to see change in your life? It is not a question of knowledge.
I don't care what it is. For me it has always been lack of power.
See, for example,
Wait May May 11th came into my conscience. I want to lose some weight. I know more about nutrition than a nutritionist.
So what
my deal was lack of power May 11th through some work, some stuff, I go on a diet, lost 21 lbs power. It took power. It didn't take knowledge. I didn't need knowledge, right? See power, lack of power in my dilemma is that my dilemma? And you're going to sit down, you're going to look at that thing. You look at this idea and those that you've been sober for a while, you have, we have moral and philosophical convictions galore, right? All our memory of all of our past experiences and blah, blah, blah. And how's that? How's that working today?
You know,
you're going to look at the idea that is there a power greater myself
that I'm willing to tap into, that'll take me into areas of consciousness and that I know nothing about, am willing to choose to make that power everything.
Then the promise in there is that if I'm willing to seek that power through a course of action, the power will reveal itself to me, through me, to me, and through me.
Then you look at the third step. The idea of it might convince that any light based on self will cannot and will not work. And a page and a half in there, what that looks like. You know what, you know what? You know what I mean. My arrangements would only stay put
if these people would only do as I wish. The show would be great.
Everybody, including me, would be pleased. Life would be wonderful.
Goes on and on and on.
Then in the third step you finally look at what's the road of the problem, Your selfishness self-centered. Am I going through life being driven by 100 forms of fear, self delusion, self seeking, self pity? Do I believe that all my troubles are my own making? Do I believe that above everything I need to get rid of this selfishness? And if so, do I believe that only God makes that possible through the process of the rest of the steps
sit with that, You know, do I have to have God's help 20 years. So do I have to have God's help again going through this process and then you make your decision the bottom of 62. What is that right
that from hereafter in this drama called Life
New Life Reborn, this morning we got up right. God's going to be the director and I'm the actor. God's the principal, I'm the agent, God's the father, I'm the child, God's the employer. I'm the employee, and that's the deal. Am I willing to do that? Am I willing to stand on that relationship
more willing to assume my responsibility for my party in that in that deal?
And if so, then then we're going to say that prayer, right? We're going to offer ourselves to God to build with us and do with us as God wants, do with us as God wants. Why would people, why would any person make that kind of statement to this power? Think about that as God, Ioffer myself to thee, you build with me and you do anything with me you want. Why would we do that?
Because
we once again have come up with a life
driven by self will and the consequences of it and the suffering of that. That's why
that's why we become willing to say that relieve me, the bondage itself, so I can better do your will, the bondage itself and everything that comes along with that, that sense of separation. There's some of you sitting in this room today surrounded by people that are feeling completely alone and separated.
That illusion that there's anything but oneness. The pain of that, the huge pain of that, of being separate from bondage of self. So I can better do your well, take away my difficulties so that victory over them bears witness to those I would help of God's power, God's love, and God's way of life. See, I mean, I do thy will always.
So that's kind of the methodology in the first first three-step considerations.
Good morning. I'm Joe. I'm an alcoholic.
Good to be here.
So where do you go for rejuvenation
if sleep is all you got? You sleep more and more and more. You get more and more tired.
Oh, I have a busy morning. My kids get up, They're always up by 7. I have to be at work at 8:00. Get up an hour before your kids and do an hour meditation and see if it isn't worth 3 hours of sleep.
I met people don't sleep anymore.
Swear to God, in India
I know a man hasn't laid down or slept in 40 years. He reaches a state twice a day in meditation. Doesn't need sleep any more.
I've had times where I take 2 hours of sleep,
18 hours of practice,
four hours of study, running a newspaper, running a restaurant, starting a drug and alcohol program,
double your meditation. You feel more space and time in your life. You'd think you'd be taking time away. You're adding time. I'll give you some examples. You ever been watching a movie and like 20 minutes go by and you've missed it? But you were right there.
What did I miss, darling? What did it? What did I miss? You ever had times where you wake up in the morning, you're looking at the clock and and it's going like really quick one minute, it's like one after, it's one minute past seven and you just take a moment and it's like 25 after and you got to go. But you ever had those times where it's like one minute past seven and then it's still one minute past 7,
like 20 minutes go by and it's only 5 after 7?
What is that? Does time change?
Mind changing? Only thing that can change. They're not going to change. This isn't going to change.
Smack her, huh?
You gotta wake up.
You know what you got to do to wake him up? You got to shake him up.
You got to shake him up, to wake him up. What shakes you up? Questions, not answers. Answers are too comfortable, too easy.
What's the problem? Oh, I know you just end up with what you already know, right? Where I go for where I go for rejuvenation is prayer and meditation.
I used to watch
many, many people come to my house in Santa Monica.
I'm not saying this at all to brag. I kept track of 200
that made it to the 9th step. Now I didn't sponsor 200 people a lot. Most of them I was not their sponsor. They just wanted to go through the work. I can't tell you there was probably 3 or 400 that pooped out and somewhere in one through 4200 made it to amends. This isn't a testament to my great work. It's a testament to all we did was what was in here. I kept track of those 200 until I went to India because I'd call them on their birthdays and, you know, sometimes they'd stay in touch,
sometimes they'd become their own sponsor and take themselves through the work. Where is Larry?
I'm just kidding,
but we both know it's about God. It's about God being the director. That's how can they make the decision that God's going to be the director and then you're still their director or their principal or their father.
Yeah, you got to let that go too, as the sponsor just as much as the sponsee.
So where do I go for rejuvenation? Where? Where is My refuge,
My refuges within and without?
Sometimes somebody would come over and they leave and you feel drained. You're just like sucked by these power suckers that just want to suck power rather than experience power, Especially if you're accidentally working with an Al Anon. Now, Al Anon's working with Al Anon's, Al Anon's working with Al Anon's get a tremendous amount of power from each other, right? But an alcoholic working with an Al Anon 'cause we forget sometimes we're their drug, right?
I was engaged to one. I'll tell you how clear she got in the first step. She she discovered a physical craving that would take place in her body for the energy of an alcoholic. That's what they live on. That's their drug. That's why there's so many Al anon's hanging around in AA. And my buddy asked her a question once. Why do so many of you all anons end up in a A groups? And she got a look on her face like you dumb son of a gun. And she tried to put it in words that he would understand.
She thought. And she thought I could tell she was thinking. And she said, well, what would you, what would you do to stay in a bar with a free tab?
This is their bar.
Were there drug?
Then sometimes somebody would come over to your house you're working with and they leave and you're just full. Now, why is that? Because you're putting in the same amount they are. You're not doing the work for them. Follow one principle. When you're working with others, never put in more than they are, but be there for them with all your heart. Be willing to go to hell with them. See, for me to look at the first step with somebody who's looking at it for their first time, I got to go to a place that I'm not in anymore
because I don't live in what it was like. But when you knew that's all you got is what it was like.
See, I got what happened. You know, I have experienced strength and hope. My hope is in what it's like now.
My strength is in what happened,
my experience is in what it was like.
What happened was something came between me and alcohol and drugs 20 years ago.
Tradition one talks about.
Maybe I should read it properly.
Our common, our common welfare should come first. Personal recovery. Your recovery depends upon a unity that can be in this room, in your Group A as a whole.
But I believe that some of the problems that some of the groups that are represented in this room by the five heads of the five families,
I believe that some of the problems because they don't see that the first tradition also works opposite.
I'll give you, I'll tell you what I'm talking about. If, if, if, if my personal recovery depends upon the unity of the group that I belong to,
then isn't doesn't it work the other way around? Isn't unity dependent on personal recovery? Have you ever seen many groups with much unity when there wasn't personal recovery going on within the group that wanted unity? So what's going to solve these problems that these conflicts, these, this gossip and these problems between these groups is each individual's continued personal recovery.
Because Unity also depends on personal recovery as much as personal recovery depends upon. Unity
works both ways.
You can locate yourself the first time through the work by going one through 9.
Step one locates your bodily, mentally, spiritually
faith. Where's your faith too? Where's your life? Run on self will three. What's the truth in your inventory? 4 But if you've been around for a while, you can locate yourself by going backwards through the considerations.
One thing I should say about what was talked about last night, by finishing amends, we don't mean there won't be any more. And by finishing amends, we don't mean that some aren't ongoing for the rest of your life.
I put my mother through some stuff. I spoke to my mother one time through a plate glass window in the Michigan State Penitentiary on a telephone and saw in her eyes harm that I never thought could be healed.
She passed away June 9th. We were free and clear. There was valid pain. There was valid grief, but it wasn't grease. It wasn't grief filled with selfishness. It wasn't grief filled with guilt 'cause she and I were clear. Last time I saw her, two years ago last month, she was so clear. She looked at me and said this will be the last time we see each other. No drama. Oh, I'll never see. No, she would. Just like when your mother's clear,
she went in an amazing way. I want to talk about tomorrow.
So how do you locate yourself going back through the work? You take yourself where you are.
Let's say there's a couple people, as we saw last night by a few hands that went up that have gotten to the other side of one, one set of amends or a couple times and you're in 1011 and 12, but you're having some struggle. Or let's say the majority of this room are have done one through 9 1/2. They think they've had a spiritual awakening as a result of the steps. They've had a spiritual awakening, but they've had a spiritual awakening as a result of one through 9 1/2 or however far they are and you're struggling with some amends or let's say
some of you are in the room, you're struggling with inventory. It's never the step that you're on that you're having struggle with unless you just flat don't know the mechanics. There's everyone in this room knows the mechanics. That's not what we wanted to cover this weekend.
If you don't know the mechanics, there's a lot of people in this room to go to, right? Let's say you're stuck on some amends. Let's say you're stuck on inventory. Go backwards through the considerations. For example, got 10 amends left. It's not because do you know where they are? Yeah, sometimes there's questions about I need to find them. Book talks about that.
I got an inventory. I'm struggling with it. I can't finish it. Do you know how to write it? Yeah. So I have these amends. Do you know where they are? Yeah. You know how to make amends? Yep. Are you willing?
That's where you are. And you're really probably not willing because you're not sure what you really asked in six and seven
because you're, it's not eight that you're not clear on.
Because if you're not willing, there's something missing 6:00 and 7:00. And if you're not really, if you're getting a little flaky about 6:00 and 7:00, it's probably because you you might have withheld something from 5:00 that you're now fighting with that you're not being honest about.
And that probably was because maybe your writing wasn't quite thorough and you're going back on some of that. The selfishness, the dishonesty, the self seeking and the fear didn't really have anything to do with drinking again. Now,
it was true when I was in the 5th step. It was true when I was in the inventory. Step one was true when I was in step one. But I've somehow moved past the truth in step one rather than deeper into the truth. I've had times where I'm in nine and one is more. Not one like when you're miserable because there's two through 8 connected to it, but one where the consciousness of it is deeper in 1011 and 12 than when I was in one. And maybe you're struggling with nine because you've gone back on your decision in Step 3.
Maybe you didn't really decide what it says to decide there. And maybe he didn't really choose God as everything because of these. Maybe these are men's that are unfinished or connected to. You've gone back on your choice in the second step. And maybe you've gone back on your choice in the second step because your life, your life's becoming a little more manageable and you're feeling a little better emotionally. And maybe you were just an emotional drinker, or maybe you were just a circumstantial drinker. And now that the emotions have straightened out and the circumstances are better,
maybe now you could drink like a normal person. Because you're not quite clear on the first half of step one anymore. It always goes back to one.
I got 3 Texas jokes. I've been living there long enough to tell jokes about Texas.
In Texas, Crystal, correct me if I'm wrong, but in Texas, sometimes people spend more time introducing themselves with their introduction than they do sharing, right? Is that right?
Go by the grace of God and the fellowship of this program and people like you and the 12 steps and the 12 traditions. I haven't found it necessary to take a drink since August 17th, 1982,
Old old boy in the room says
I saw you in the bar last week, you were drinking, he said. It just wasn't necessary, though.
I wasn't necessary.
Someone said something to me the other day in Texas. I thought I was going to go crazy. You know what they said to me? Is it hot enough for you?
No, I thought to myself, I'd like it to be just a little hotter, right? I'd like to be just like melting while I'm standing here talking to you. Is it hot enough for you? That's a crazy question.
Here's the worst one. Supreme Court recently banned executing retards, right? One, Texas says the other. Where are we going to find our fund now, right.
They'll execute some retards and and it's a wide expanse in that in to fit into that category. In Texas,
they'll execute some retards. If you're retarded, don't go to Texas.
If you're retarded and you live in Texas, be really careful.
Sorry,
I
some of these, uh,
unsigned death packs. The lies, the lies that we don't want to share with each other. You don't say anything to make me uncomfortable. I won't say anything to make you uncomfortable. Here's how it goes.
And I was just in the house where this is true. Sponsor lives in one part of the house, sponsee lives in the other part of the house, and the sponsor has an idea that the sponsee has been stealing some of his cigars.
He says, how am I going to handle this?
He thinks he thinks he thinks. He screams out. My sponsee has been stealing my cigars. Nothing happens.
My sponsee has been stealing my cigars. Nothing happens. He goes across the house into the sponses room and he says did you hear anything? Sponses? I didn't hear anything. He's you didn't hear anything. Just then he said I didn't hear anything. He said, okay, I want you to go in my room and yell out something as loud as you can and I'm going to sit here in your room. I'm going to see if I can hear you
sponsor.
This is too ironic. Sponsor Sponsee goes in the sponsors room and goes my sponsors messing with my girlfriend,
my sponsors messing with my girlfriend goes back where the sponsor is in his room and says the sponsor. Did you hear anything he said? I didn't hear nothing. Would you like to have a cigar?
That's nasty, man.
I'm sick enough to have made notes about that shit, right?
You thought I was trying to figure out the book. I don't need to figure out this thing anymore, right? That's my problem. My problem is the trap of knowledge. How do you get past the trap of knowledge if you've done some work? Oh, I know what to do with the doctor's opinion. I'm going to mark it all up and get all the questions marked, right? Right. Go through the questions. Pray for an open mind and new experience. Some questions might come out of the doctor's opinion you didn't see the first time.
There might be some questions the second time through the work or the third time through the work or the OR the reason you're stuck in in amends
because there's some new reservations. Maybe there's reservations at five years that you wouldn't even bring up to somebody that was doing the work the first time. Give an example. I'm going through the work one time with a buddy of mine
from my Home group in Santa Monica. And he looked at me and he said, you know, you know that place in the book where it says
he thought his long period of sobriety had qualified him to drink like other people? He said, you're not suffering from that delusion. You think your long period of sobriety has qualified you to not drink like other people. And if you do this, this, this the right spiritual practice with the right teacher, you can keep yourself sober like a normal person could.
Wow, he had me.
Maybe lurking notions, maybe reservations change each time through the work. Maybe now, after 20 years, I've learned enough to control my drinking right?
So we talked last night about where it starts.
For me, it starts with four considerations.
Five actually. He asked me to make him a couple months ago. Is this work what I want to do?
Maybe I don't.
How can I come to the work now after this many times from half to
I don't have to do the work.
So once you see through an illusion, you got to come back to it with a different motivation. My my my mind goes like this. If I've finally seen that meetings don't keep me sober, shit, why go to meetings?
No, a healthy relationship with a a Bill Wilson wrote about it. Our founder had some real struggles getting free of his dependence on the program of Alcoholics Anonymous that he started. He said a healthy relationship goes like this. Have to need to want to love to.