Mark H. and Dave F. at the Fellowship of the spirit convention at St. John's University, Queens in New York July 27th

Good evening, everybody. I'm Mark. I'm an alcoholic.
We've got about 1/2 hour to go and I want to move on to the second step, which is we're going to get presented with the idea of a solution to what we looked at in the first step, our experience, if you will.
I, I, I've always found it quite humorous when Alcoholics are asked to talk about God,
although it's somewhat appropriate because we've gone through life thinking regard. So I guess it's only natural you talk about God. But they asked Thomas Merton one time talk about God and he said something that I completely agree with. He said that when asked about God, silence makes more sense than words.
Words are
all we have to work with here. Yet this this evening, in the longer I'm sober,
we were talking, Bart and I were talking last night and see, I don't understand God. I know God, but I do not understand God.
God is so far beyond
anything that I could even begin to to
wrap my mind around it, if you will.
I came to to a a I've been raised a Methodist and then I had meant
a lady who said, if you want what I have yet to become a Roman Catholic and, and I said that's not a problem when I want something. And
so I, I spent a year of instructions and became one. And
that's how that goes for people like us, right? Of course, if you're like me, you know, God can take
our selfie self-centered motive and use it to his own benefit. But so I had a lot of belief systems, if you will, about God. And then I guess through life and alcoholism and time in Vietnam and whatever, I suppose more than anything else I was ambivalent. Although at various times, you know, you you find yourself talking to this God supposedly that you maybe don't even believe in. And so
I came to a a with a lot of misconceptions and in in a wee agnostic's
it, it finally uses the word prejudice 678 times. Prejudice means preconceived thought or opinion. So I would ask, I would beg of all you to, to maybe lay aside what you think you know of God as you listen to Dave and I talk a little bit about the second step.
And that becomes difficult to do, which is why we, we, we like to use that prayer because, see, the minute I put God in a box,
I can't know anymore, nor will I experience anymore about that. And so you come to the second step in which you begin to understand is that you need power.
And the book talks about, well, that's the whole purpose of this book. The main object of this book is enable you to find a power which will solve your problem.
That's a real important thing to remember here. See the organ that brought you to a A. Your mind is not the organ you go into for a solution.
You understand what I just said. The mind that brought you to a A is not where you go for a solution to your alcoholism and drinking and life in general. The main problem does center in your mind
I when I look back at my first ten years in a A and some of you might be able to relate to this. I had truly made my mind God and did not know that I truly had had did that in hindsight, but I I was asleep to the fact
matter of fact I've been asleep dreaming. I'm awake most of my life going through life driven by 100 forms of fear of self delusion, self seeking and self pity thinking I'm making choices. You can you don't you do not go through life making choices If you're sound asleep being driven with a mind made false sense of self. You think you're God. And when I look back in my first ten years, I see there's,
I think the Bible talks about there should be no gods before me. And I had put one before God, which was my mind, my mind's idea of God. So you come to the second step in the idea is do you need power and
begs just begs. Finally, please lay aside what you think you know now here's another reason why you might consider doing that. I think the Carpenter gave you and IA great tool litmus test. If you to this thing about God and knowing God and what the Carpenter talked about was the fruit of your life. And that is always a great barometer for me in relationship to to this experience with God and conscious contact.
I look at the fruit of my life and
if the tree is somewhat barren, that's a great time to be willing to lay aside what you think you know, to have an open mind, a new experience with God, maybe as you don't understand God. I tell you why I quit saying that in 1997 or 98. I came out of a meditation and I do. I call it free flow writing for periods of time. I just write whatever comes up. And what rolled off my pen is why do you keep telling people you understand me? Who do you think you are?
And that is not a? That is not normally something Mark would have written.
And normally when I'm posed with a question, I sit with it for a while because see, the ego uses an answer to bypass truth. The bypass experience. Well, I didn't have to sit with that very long. So I quit telling people I understand God because I don't. I have experienced God and that experience is very difficult to even put any words. And I know God, beyond that I cannot comprehend, nor do I understand God.
But back to this, this second step. And then what do I do? You know, what do you do around the issue of God
when you've gone for years without a drink and when you have felt so loved by God that you weep like a baby? And when you have experience God, what do you do at the second step? It's one thing when you're brand new.
And what I like to do with the second step at that time is, is realizing my need for power. It it poses me with a question, you know, am I willing to believe is a power greater than myself? And I like to tag something on that. Who can take me past here,
right past this block of knowledge and experience in memories? See, just as my body can't live off the food of a week ago, what the experience I had with God a week ago is insufficient to keep me in fit spiritual condition today. So that's a question I I like to work with as I approach the second step
is am I willing to believe is a power greater than myself who can take me past here? See are the dimensions that I know nothing about. I was talking to a gentleman Joe outside. We had a similar experience to mine with the exception of he drank. I just almost went insane and committed suicide. And he said something that that was also my experience. He said, you know, Mark, I, I really didn't know God in those ten years.
And he said I know that now because today I know God. But he said
because I'd been able to accomplish so much and a bell went off when he said that. See, the things that I thought I could accomplish on my power were the things today that are of no value to me that I used to think were of value to me. IE earning money, a home, a car, whatever. And self-reliance in those areas had worked for me in my first ten years of sobriety, if you will.
All the things today that I want to accomplish, I cannot do on my power.
See, I want, I want to be able to love. I want to be free of judgment. I want to serve my brother and sister. I want to have compassion in my heart for people who are asleep dreaming they're awake. I have no power on my own to bring any of that aback. Everything today that I value I cannot bring about because my selfishness is the exact opposite of the very things that I value today. And so I, I like he had a very similar experience,
which is why I'm back to like I said, my first ten years my mind was God. I worship my mind and didn't even know it. See, one of the greatest barriers I had to God was telling you that I believed in God.
Do you understand what I just said? See, if I tell you I believe in God, I actually think I do.
If you want to know where you're at in relationship to God, go back to the question Dave posed, and that is this how well do you know God? How much time do you spend with God? Remember I told you if you want to know what your belief systems are, look at your actions. And at 10 years, my answers to those questions were very little time doing nothing with meditation, weighing a few prayers in the shower on the way to work. And then I go to meeting and lie to you, and you'd ask me what's the most important thing in my life.
The example is let's say that those of you have children.
If the time that you spend with God is all the time you spent with your children, would they feel loved? I
move on to the next question.
And, and so you know, that becomes, that becomes really the, the litmus test. Then where am I at with this God? And after my experience at 10 years, here's where I was at. I had a 20 year history with alcohol. God separated me from alcohol. I had 10 years of not taking a drink, doing some work, etc, then almost committing suicide. And what I came to know through that experience is there were two deaths that I had to die. I had to die an alcoholic death, meaning there must be no reservation or looking notion
day I'll be immune. The second death is are you willing to die the death of self before you and I make our third step decision. The book says with God's help, I can be entirely rid of self. Was I willing to do that? And there's normally only one thing that and this is what most of you are in this room because most of you have some time. This is the death you've got to be willing to go through. Am I willing to die the death of self, of selfishness?
And I only know one way to do that in that steps four through 9/4 through 9/4 through 9,
then work with the disciplines of 1011 and 12. I know of no other way to do it. I'm sure there are. I just don't. I just don't know of them. And when I was sitting in that nut house, that psychiatric hospital, I drew a line in the sand. And here's what the line in the sand was, is. I said from this day on, I am going to do this thing. And the reason is because at that time, I am 44 years old. I've been on Mother Earth for 44 years. I was as miserable as any human being could ever be.
I had a life of 20 years drinking and 10 years sober and I'm still so miserable I can't even begin to describe it. And I realized that the only thing I had never been willing to do was draw a line in the sand and put God first and foremost in my life through a course of action. And I had been doing that since then. And I can't even begin to tell you The changes that have have taken place in my life. I can't even begin to tell you
I don't know what it is about us. And this may make some of you a little uncomfortable, but by the way, the big Book says that if David and I disturb you about the question of alcoholism, you're supposed to thank us is for your benefit.
So, but
every alcoholic addict that I have ever met, I believe has such a deep spiritual thirst to know God at a deep, deep level that a lot of other people don't need. In my experience is if you don't answer that call, you are never going to be satisfied with whatever your external world looks like. I don't care how much money you have and how many cars you have and whether he or her or it is in your life, if you're like every alcoholic guy, know
God must come first and foremost in your life.
I guess the Carpenter said it another way. Seek ye first the Kingdom. I will add the rest unto you. Do not get that in any other order but that.
And I guess I must have realized that at 10 years, which is why I do the lie in the sand. And there were several statements I made at the same time around the second step. Number one, I said, God, my life is no longer my business. I have tried to make them my business drunk or sober. And here's where I am in a padded cell in a nut house. And I said I quit, I'm done. I will go anywhere you want. I will do anything you want. I will live the way you want me to live. It's I quit. I have resigned from the human race.
I just am not doing well here. And really in hindsight, at 10 years sober is when I made my third step decision and followed through with the vigorous course of action. I've been doing that ever since and I'll tell you why I did it because sober the way I was living wasn't working. There's no other reason. There isn't anyone in this room that ever came to the came to the work as little sunbeams for God
see you. You know, we we we come to this because we've tried everything else sober. You know, we've tried just meetings and we've tried some inventory and we've tried few of men's and we've tried this and we've tried that and and finally none of it works. And if there's enough grace in there, we hear some guy talking about the book over and over again. He looks like he's got power and peace and we very begrudgingly go up and talk to him for just a little ever. We don't want to ask him to, you know, work with us quite yet. That be radical, but
you know that's that's all men and women in this room come to this thing right you know it just didn't work anymore sober and so you know I'm I'm back to this God issue and you know back to the second step because this this is my experience with God. You go to the and then this is from him and fox. But if you go to the ocean with a thimble, you get a thimble full of water, how much a God you want. You got to understand how much God loves you and I,
I
based on my experience with God. If, if, if I don't want to take any course of action to seek God. He does not love me less. I just will know him less. He loves me so much that he will allow me to do that. Yet at the same time, when I begin to seek a course of action, the big Book says there was a time I needed and wanted God, and God came. But soon the sense of his presence was blotted out by worldly clamor, mostly within myself. And so it has been ever since.
My experience with God is, is that when through a course of action, my actions say so clearly, Father, I want to know thee. You know, God, I want to know thee,
His grace, His love will match that intent in that course of action. That has been my experience around this second step. So laying aside prejudice and saying maybe there's just so much of God that I do not even know because you must understand. This book says that if you and I do this work, God's going to demonstrate through us what God can do. You see, I didn't know this for the longest time, but the work of the first nine steps is just designed so that I can be a channel and agent,
if you will, for God, for God to manifest through me. See, I have no power to do what I'm doing right this minute. Here's the good news for me. I'm not doing it. It's being done through me. There's a little story, little boy sneezing. Mama says, Johnny, stop sneezing. He says, Mom, I can't. It is sneezing. Well, it is sneezing me. As I sit here right now doing this, I do nothing. People ask me all the time,
well, how did your talk go? And I say, I don't know, I wasn't there.
And then that is the truth of it. You see, I'm trying to make you understand how my experience with God works of God coming, coming through. I never, I never have any fear when I'm asked to do any of this because I'm not going to be the one that's going to be talking to you see, there's nothing but oneness. There's only the illusion of separation. So when I come to this, I, I'm very clear what God ultimately will use me for is Mark, make your fellow brothers and sisters understand how much I love them. Make them take it, get them excited about
of action to get rid of this idea of anything that separates this false sense of self. Talk to them about me. Talk to them about how you came to know me. I mean, the third step, what does it say? Says Dave and I are to bear witness to you of God's power, God's love, God's way of life. See, so the second step then is about opening up to this idea of laying aside prejudice. And maybe there's so much more of God that I do not know and I do not understand, but I have an intent and a willingness to experience God in that way.
And then a little further on and we agnostics, it talks about
faced with a self-imposed crisis
self. You don't think they meant self-imposed, right? You know, see the big book is kind of nasty. Starting around the second step, they really start turning a spotlight on
that self-imposed crisis is I need God, I need to know God and it says I've got to choose. God is either everything or is nothing. See, see, I know exactly what it looks like to choose for alcohol to be everything in my life. And so do you. If all of us in this room gave God 1/2 the attention, energy and focus, we gave a bottle of whiskey, we'd be Saints,
you understand? See what I'm saying? See we, we're the smartest, dumbest group of people on the planet. See, we, we, it's like Dave is talking about dying alcoholic death. And we're the kind that would say, well, can you elaborate a little on that?
You know, see, I mean, I've been talking to several of you, right? You know, it's well, like I, I, I've been to the penitentiary and I eat and we talk about all this. And then we present to you that you'll come to know God if you work the first nine steps and work with 1011. You go, well, that sounds a little bit radical, don't you think
you understand what I'm saying? I mean, that's delusional. See, delusional is a it's a belief system held in spite of evidence to the contrary. See, and it's only through grace that we begin to, I think, get an idea of maybe there's a different way, but I have to choose that God's going to be everything in my life and, and what, what is that? What does that look and feel like? It means God's everything means every single part of anything that I think I know and where I'm going to live and everything in my life, I'm going to choose that God's going to be at the center of it.
See. And that becomes a choice that you have to make in the second step. And you do have to make that choice,
see. And then it goes on in those last two or three sentences in in we agnostics are so, so powerful.
It's funny, the longer you're sober, you read these things that just jump out at you, you didn't see for so long. But these are incredible promises. And I want to read those. And I'll let Dave talk for a little bit on the second step. But you talk about what is this? But it's on page 57. What is this but a miracle of healing?
Yet this elements of healing are simple circumstances. Step one, drunk or sober, I'm not doing well here. Made me willing to believe. I humbly offer myself to my Maker and then I knew says Even so has God restored us all to our right minds
see to this man. The revelation was sudden. Some of us grow into a more slowly now look at these next two sentences. What incredible promises. But he, God has come to all who've honestly sought God.
Think of how much God loves you if through a course of action, you let you. That course of action is such that you are telling God
that you that you don't need God. God loves you so much he will leave you alone. See. But if you honestly seek God, then here's what happens. When I draw near to God, God will disclose himself to me.
I mean, what a role model for love. See,
we were, I was talking with Bart earlier today and today, the people in my life that asked me to work with him, I only go where I'm invited. See, I only go where I'm invited, just like God. There's a little story that that sums the God up thing for me. And it's funny. It's getting harder and harder for me to,
to talk about God because
I, I guess it's, it's much like Dave said, God is love. God's power is love. And I mean you,
you either have experienced or you haven't experienced. And it's so hard to work with in words. But there's a story of imagine that. Imagine that your your goldfish and your new day and your swimming in water and imagine the water is God. And so Dave and I swim by and your couple new guys and we turn and we say in the water, great, now you're slick and cool and you don't even know you're swimming in water. So you say, yeah, it's great. Dave and Mark swim by and you turn your buddy and say,
what the Hell's he talking about? We gotta go find the water. Well, that's, that's where that's the deal with God. God is closer to you than breathing and you don't have to go anywhere. I'm no closer to God than the day I came into course of action. And then I became awake, aware, mindful and conscious of that which has always been present within me and without. And that is the love and the power of God in my life.
That's what this program is about when I have honestly sought God,
God will disclose himself to me and my experience is God will determine how to disclose himself to me or herself or it's so hard for me to use any kinds of words. I was asked a good question the other day of what is your concept and I guess all I can and, and I'll close my mind. I am
is my concept. I
that is the summon in the in the totality of of I am
the when Dave read the experience of the 4th dimension, I want to tell everyone of you in the intense step when it says you've entered the world of the spirit that is as real as anything that there is.
Do not miss that. Do not miss. I drive down the road sometimes and I have, I call them God love attacks. And I'll be driving down the road and my heart starts to swell
and I start weeping. And that's not crying. There's a difference between weeping and crying. And I start weeping so bad I have to pull my car off to the side. And that's why I think I'm sitting up here and that's why Dave's up here. I see the sadness and suffering and Alcoholics who are sober, let alone drinking, and I so want them to know how much they're loved. See, God's grace falls equally in everyone in this room. And God ain't got no favorites. And he's given this incredible, beautiful path to follow
where you can feel that that hand of God in that and, and you'll know from now till the day you leave this body that all is well, that all is well, regardless of how it looks, that all is well. And you can begin to love and and and to serve in, in. I was recently asked a question, but you know well how often you go to church. And I said,
when am I not in church
see me? When am I not experiencing God? Do I practice?
Yes. But when are you not in church? I wouldn't want anyone in here not to experience what it's like to weep because every cell of your body is being overwhelmed with the love of the Father, the love of that which created you. And, and to understand what an incredible precious thing this thing called life is and what it gifted is. And then to be able to turn around and say to someone else, hey, do you want to wake up? Do you want to wake up to realize you're swimming in water
that is closer than breathing, that it's never not around and it's in New York and it's in Texas. And, you know, you don't have to go anywhere and you don't have to change anything. And you don't. Would you like, you know, would you like to do that? See, but waking up is uncomfortable, Right. See, waking up is uncomfortable. Thanks. That's all I got.
The God that Mark was talking about, that little kid that I was describing, you know, when all little kid, I love to watch nature and I love particularly to watch children and I love to watch people. I'm a people watcher. I'm watching people in here tonight. When Mark's talking, I'm looking around the room watching. And if you watch people watch kids, it's almost a universal reaction. We smile.
Why is that? If you watch children, what do they do?
They love unconditionally. That love is still inside of each and everyone of us. According to this book. It resides deep down within us and only there is that where we can, it can be found. They knew when the Alcoholics wrote this book with the help of God, because I don't think any human being could have written this book.
They knew that God resided in us. So what Mark said is true. When you're drinking alcohol, you are just as close to God as you are sitting in this chair. However long you're sober.
The only difference is hopefully sitting in this chair, you're awake to the fact that the presence of God is inside you.
The problem with us is our ego is also with us. And the reason that geographic cures don't work is we run off to Eastern Slobodia. Guess what? Our ego went with us to Eastern Slobodia. But if your presence and you understand the concept and you have a conscious contact with that which is inside of you, which is truly your essence, what really makes you up and, and, and the real core of what you are, when you go to Eastern Slovakia, guess what, God goes with you too. That's the cool deal, right?
I,
I don't use a A as a filling station. I've gone from literally months, no exaggeration, without going to an, a, a meeting. Not because I wanted to, because in the military I, you know, I'd get sent off and there wasn't any a meetings, but I wasn't sitting around going, what am I going to do? I can't get to my Home group. I can't call my sponsor. No, I took a big book with me. I took a 12 and 12. You know, I'm embarrassed to say that I was 10 years sober before I realized that the Grapevine on the cover says our meeting in print.
It's a meeting. Throw in your bag. It's got everything you need. A preamble at 12 steps, 12 traditions, serenity, prayer and great speaker stories in there. It's a wonderful meeting. But the most important deal is remember the we
I got God. If I don't have this, we, I always got this way for the rest of my life, for the rest of eternity is my belief.
That's the essence of Step 2. Now we don't have enough time to go over tonight and I know there's a lot of people have to drive home. So I'm going to try to be respectful of that, but we'll cover some more information tomorrow. This is a great textbook. The cover of the big book says that it's our basic text and if it's a good test book textbooks, it gives us test questions kind like the questions, the wrap up questions asked you from step one. Well, they're going to tell you how and where to find God. They're going to tell us 4 things to commence spiritual growth. It's
the notes. All right, Then they're going to give us the three barriers that can block us off from spiritual growth, prejudice and obstinacy. You know, that mule headedness, the defiance that Alcoholics have. And then it gives us what I call 4 things for long term spiritual growth. If you go to the guide on page 4
says four Step 2 requirements to get the second step promises and for long term sobriety and the second step promises were what Mark was reading. Some are some of the second step promises. By the way, this book is full of promises in being anal that I am. One time I sat down at the computer and I wrote them all out and I stopped counting at 2:25
and I just kept right on writing because it was just too much to keep numbering the damn things. And this book is just loaded with promises. And you know what? I'm still seeing more and more promises today. They keep changing. I don't know who keeps rewriting the book, but the promises keep coming. All right Says leave aside the drink question. Tell why living was so unsatisfactory. Show how the change came over you, and share why the presence of God is today the most important fact of your life. You notice what I put in parentheses? That's me talking. We say it before every speaker meeting,
share what it was like, share what happened, and share what it's like now. Right? Let's all go to the Big Book, Page 2929, Colin 2.
How many of you in this room have been up at a speaker's meeting? And the guy gets up there and he does however long, 15 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour and a half drunk a log. Drunkalog, Drunkalog, Drunkalog. And then I came to a A and he sits down and everything's great. Thanks for letting me share. And all I did was dump drunk a log on you and you kind of go, what's next? You want something different? Look what this says. This is how we're supposed to be sharing our stories.
Each individual in the personal stories describes in his own language and from his own point of view,
the way he established his relationship with God.
I'm supposed to be getting up there and telling you enough of my Drunkalog so you know I'm a real alcoholic just to hook you. And then I'm supposed to tell you how I found my way to God. When I tell my story, you heard me. Basically, what I shared today was about as much as my story as I share. And then I start talking about what I'm currently doing in the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous and how I'm working with God today. And when you get done sharing like that and you give them half the common peril and half the common solution, people are just like, whoa,
during the break, people were coming up to me saying, wow, you guys are really good.
And I looked at him. I said he ate me. If I knew that I was going to come up here and cry in front of a couple 100 people, you would have a different speaker here.
You know that doesn't Joe Hollywood does not like that. I don't like to. My ego, Julie, does not do well with that.
It's not me, it's God. In the same way that the person who did what you did when you were drinking and drugging or even in sobriety when you're spiritually sick and you're unconscious to your behavior. We are not bad people trying to get good. We're sick people trying to get well.
The true essence is still there. The Colonel in the golf ball is still there. Whether you can see it or not, the love is still inside your heart.
Mark talked about giving God everything or giving him nothing. He and he. I love the the Emmett Fox thing about the thimble. There's another
parable and it comes from the Orientals and I heard it with there's a book called Zen in the Martial arts. And I've been studying the martial arts and the student comes to the master and he wants to learn from this new, new master. And so he says, I, I'm, I've been studying for all these years, but I want to learn from the best of the best. And, and I know about how to do this and I know how to do that. I know how to do the other thing. And the master says, stop, let's have a cup of tea. And so the master says, why don't you pour the tea and stop when I tell you to?
And the guy starts pouring the tea and the cup gets full and it's getting full and it's getting fuller and fuller and fuller. And then all of a sudden the tea starts pouring out. The tea is pouring all over the floor and running down the table and running the floor. And finally, the guy goes, what are you doing?
And it's the exact opposite of the parable that Mark shared. If you're so full of knowledge and information, where are we going to put anything new? Your vessels already full.
When it's time to rewrite inventory, guess what? Your vessel is already full. Your ego has rebuilt. Second step proposition is an opportunity to tear down and build again on the firm bedrock of step one, which is the foundation of willingness. You have to be willing to go through this process, and us talking until we're blue in the face will do you absolutely no good. I could impart all my knowledge to you. Hell, I got it all in compact disc. You want all this stuff?
I'll cut you a compact disc of it and you know what it's going to do? You squat. Not a damn thing unless you take the actions
first. You have to accept, and this works for anything. You must accept. Then you must take action. And then comes the serenity and the Peace of Mind. It has to be in that order. You have to accept that you're powerless over alcohol, slapped with the hopelessness, Then you have to take action.
Remember I told you I was big on homework, but I'd like each and every person to do tonight is take the second step proposition. If God is everything or he's nothing, what is your choice to be? If God is everything, you think they really meant that everything? Well, if he's everything, guess what that means? You got to give God everything. You don't get to keep anything, nothing, absolutely nothing. So use what I call the tornado exercise
When you're doing your meditation, either tonight or tomorrow morning, sit down
and start the spiral of the tornado. And who's the tornado going to hit? The people closest to you? Your husband, your wife, your kids,
your, your, your roommates, your family, your mom, your dad and just spiral the tornado outlook at every single relationship in your life. And look at your job, look at your your physical health, your mental health, your 12 steps, your conscious contact with God. And ask yourself two questions. What have I not given to God or what have I been unwilling to give to God at this point?
What am I not willing to give Him and or what have I not given Him? In other words, what have you taken
and write that stuff out and don't worry if you don't. There's a whole bunch of pages from 5 on is a second step proposition exercise. Write out and look at your agnosticism. We all walked in the doors of a A and said, you know what? I just want God to Get Me Out of the gutter and get me sober. That's all I want. And at the time we meant it. That's all we wanted. Just give me sobriety. Well, guess what? God's got you good sobriety right now.
Whatever you got, it's all you got, so you better say it's good sobriety.
But do you believe that however good your sobriety is now, you're not in the gutter anymore? Can he take you even further?
As good as my sobriety is, I have to believe that God can take me because he's God, He's everything, right? He's all powerful. So look at what you're holding on to. That new business that you don't want to give to God, that new relationship, your finances. You know, I'll give God my sobriety, I'll give him my spirituality, but I'm going to, this is my job and my career over here. Or is it a relationship? What is it that you're holding on to? Because you don't get to hold on anything. You have to give God everything. And we'll, we'll work with that more tomorrow
lastly, and I'm going to shut up and we can go and go home.
We talked a little bit in here about making you guys uncomfortable.
I this is not a game. This is life and death. And when I work with somebody, I treat them like I have their life in my hands because I do. Literally,
I've gone in and Mark and Mark and I, we have gone in to the depths of your soul and we've opened, started to open the box.
Be very conscious of that when you leave here tonight.
We've touched things and as hard as you didn't want us to touch them, trust me, we touch things.
So don't be surprised if tonight you have drunk dreams. Don't be surprised if you have bizarre dreams, you know, you know, murdering people and stuff. Let it be. All I'm serious, all it is, is that I've gone in and I've touched some of the webbing that's on top of your golf ball. We've touched some of that webbing. The kernel in there is trying to get out, but it has to get out through all that negative stuff.
Remember that God is going to keep us safe and protected. The last thing I'm going to do tonight is say a prayer, but keep conscious of that. Your reliance is not on us, it's on God, and we need to be connected to God. God will keep us safe and protected. All right, be where your feet are. If you're in the car, be in the car. If you're at home, be at home. Don't worry about it
when, whatever happens between now and tomorrow, when you guys come back here, realize that God is with you because we talked about it tonight. No matter where you go, God is deep down in each and every one of us and your reliance has to be there. So let's start with that as our exercise. Let's write out each of us. I'm going to go home and do it tonight in the hotel. I'm going to go right out the areas that I've been unwilling to give to God or I have not given to God. That's it. That's the end of that exercise in the morning when you're meditating, your meditation,
if you want to have a change and it's a challenge. I'm throwing the gauntlet down. Pray for the stuff on page 16.
The bold letters ask God to bring that into your life, and in three days I guarantee you will be a changed person. You'll start to feel that child coming out inside of you. Since I brought us in with prayer, why don't you take us out with prayer?
I think I'll take us out. I've been one of the practices I've been working. How many of you you've seen the the little prayer book of Jabez? Some of you seen that, the prayer of Jabez. OK, well, I'm going to I'll close with this. I'll close with this prayer, but I'm going to paraphrase probably a little, but the prayer is oh, Heavenly Father, we ask that you bless us indeed, and that you enlarge our territory.
And Heavenly Father, we ask that your hand always be with us
and that you keep us for me will so that we cause no pain as we go out our ways tonight. Father, let us keep you ever close to our heart, keep us safe and protected, and then give us the strength and courage to come back tomorrow to experience more of you. Amen. What time tomorrow you want to do? A couple announcements here?
Why did you have the dream?
If you're having a dream like you had last night, if you had an unusual restless sleep last night, there's a reason for that. Mark and I have started to touch you. We are going down into your soul, into that box that you've hidden from everybody and we've started to crack it open. We're shining a little bit of the sunlight of the spirit into there and that's what's it's a physical manifestation that's coming up into your mind and that's what the dream is about. Your soul is giving you a message. Remember we started out with yesterday and start to ask yourself series of questions
you know
will always question everything. Why am I having this experience? There's a reason you're having this experience. God's talking to you. There's something inside you that's restless, irritable, and discontent. Let's shine the sunlight on it and get rid of it so we can find our way back to God. So wonderful, wonderful deal yesterday I left off on #10I always like to start with a bit of humor in case you weren't here. These things are. You may have a drinking problem if.
#11 The parking lot seems to have moved since you were in the bar
#12 Every woman you see has an exact twin. 13 You fall off the floor. 14 Your twin sons are both named Barley and Hops.
And 15 Hey, 5 beers has just as many calories as a burger. Screw dinner. Anybody ever drink their dinner?
16 The glass keeps missing your mouth. 17 The president starts to make sense. 18 Vampires and mosquitoes catch a buzz after attacking you. 19 At 8 meetings you begin with Hi, my name is
20. Your idea of cutting back means less salt.
So
life ought to be fun. If we can't laugh, we can't, we can't truly express our spirit. Our spirit, That little child that I was talking about yesterday is, is love. And it's, it's deep within us. And that's the goal here is to get down to that so that we can radiate that. And what you radiate radiates right back at you. It's, it's a neat, neat thing once you start doing that.
There's been a break in our continuity since yet from yesterday to today. And we are a spiritual body. So why don't we start out the way we should and get quiet and get rid of the oh, I wish I had more time for one more bagel or, you know, I wish that pothole. What's that? What did that do to my friend in alignment on the way over here and, and that kind of stuff. Let's clear the clear our minds and try to get in touch and we'll just do a real quick meditation. And then
since I started this off yesterday, we'll ask Mark to bring us in with a prayer and then and then I'll jump back into
into where we left off with your homework assignment.
Our Heavenly Father, we thank you for bringing us together and fellowship and love and
help us to remember as we go through the stay Father, that albeit we have come to you and seems to be as individuals for these purposes today that we are a spiritual body and that we are one.
Help us to wake up to the consciousness with which we left here last night, which is we had an experience with our first step in our need for power and this idea of father and the second step that you're going to be our solution in leaving here sitting with the idea of are you going to be everything in our life Having us look at some areas, Father, in which it's obvious that you're not everything in our life. Happiness to identify those things
to ultimately face and be rid of that which has this blunt.
I'd like to say the prayer of Jabez. O Heavenly Father, we pray that you would bless us all indeed, and enlarge our territory, that your hand would always be with us, and that you would keep us from evil so that we may not cause pain. Amen.
Thank you, Mary.
Remember the requirements for this workshop. By the way, I have to wear a hat. The sun's killing me.
We need to have an open mind and an open heart so that guy can speak to us and and and touch that part of us that our ego is absolutely desperately not wanting us to touch. And I'd like to read something. This is comes from Doctor Bob. It's called cultivating tolerance. It was from the 1944 A Grapevine
since during nine years in AAI have observed that those who follow Alcoholics Anonymous program with the greatest earnestness in zeal not only maintain sobriety but often acquire finer characteristics and attitudes as well. One of these is tolerance. Tolerance expresses itself in a variety of ways, in kindness and consideration towards the man or woman who is just beginning the March along the spiritual path,
in the understanding of those who perhaps have been less fortunate in education advantages, and in sympathy towards those whose religious ideas may seem to be of great variance with our own. I am reminded in this connection of the picture of a hub with his radiant spokes. We all start at the outer circumference and approach our destination by one of many routes.
To say that one spoke is much better than all the other spokes is true only in the sense that is being best suited to you as an individual. Human nature is such that without some degree of tolerance, each one of us might be inclined to believe that we have found the best or perhaps the shortest spoke. Without some tolerance, we might tend to become a bit smug or superior, which of course is not helpful to the person you're trying to help and may be quite painful or obnoxious to others.
No one of us wishes to do anything that might act as a deterrent to the advancement of another, and a patronizing attitude can readily slow up this process.
Tolerance furnishes furnishes as a byproduct a greater freedom from the tendency to cling to preconceived ideas and to stubbornly adhere to opinions. In other words, it often promotes an open mindedness with vast important importance. It is, in fact, a prerequisite to the successful termination of any line of search, whether it be scientific or spiritual. These, then, are a few of the reasons why I attempt to acquire tolerance,
and that it may be made by each one of us.
We need to have an open mind if we're going to have a new experience.
And
what did I leave you with last night? I left you with two things. One, that was a challenge to see if you'd pray and meditate the some of the principles from the Lost lost chapters. Some people having a profound effect with that right off the bat. Most everybody, the first time they see that they kind of go, this is in the big book. And then they realized there is a hell of a lot more principles in this book that we're supposed to be working than just 12 steps.
It's loaded with principles, none of which we can perfectly attain.
The neat thing is that if we strive towards them, we have these unbelievable experiences and it confirms for each one of us that we're on the right path. I had a conversation this morning with a woman and she was talking to me about sponsorship. And she said, you know, I'm hearing so many conflicting messages in
NA and she's she's, you could just see the confusion on her face. And I asked her a question, which I think startled her. I said, well, does it work? Do the messages you're hearing work? And she got this look on her face and she said, well, well, no. And I said, well, they know those messages. True.
And you could see her ego, it grabbed a hold of it and it didn't want to let go of. Well, maybe it's true, maybe it's not then what I'm going to grab ahold of. And she said, well, I guess it's not true. If it doesn't work, it can't be true. And I said, great, well, what about the message you're hearing this weekend? We're not asking you to believe something. We're asking you to do something. We're asking you to take an action. Remember acceptance action. And then you get the outcome that we need. It has to be in that order. You have to accept the fact that maybe there's a chance
that you're missing something. Start with that as your premise because how do you know what you don't take an action and see what the results are and then look back on it. And is what Mark and Dave shared is that true? Are we telling the truth up here? You won't know unless you try it. If you just sit out there and listen and go. That's an interesting theory. I wonder if I should try that. Well, I'll do that next week, you know, or when the next time I go through inventory, maybe I'll try it their way.
You've missed the mark. We haven't touched you in the way that you need to be touched.
The only way that I can be of any service to you, real service, is if I can then spur you on to do what we're talking about. All right. Second piece that I left you with was the homework assignment, and that was the beginning of the second step proposition, which the whole second step proposition is in the guide. It starts on page 5
and I don't know if you've had a chance to read it.
Like most Alcoholics, we don't want to read directions, we just want to go attempt things.
I would highly encourage you to go and read the three pages sometime today so you truly understand the foundation of where the second step proposition exercise came from and and the true meaning of it.
I started doing this myself at about 17 years sober, formally doing the second step proposition exercise.
I started having some very unusual experiences with it and I was very slow with this exercise to give it to my sponsees and every single one of them that I've given this exercise to has had an absolute profound effect with this exercise.
This has been one of the in the last three years. I would say this has been one of the most valuable tools for me in my sobriety is this exercise. I can't emphasize it enough. If your long term sober and you're having any problems in any of your area of your life, I think this will be the deal for you. I'm going to hang my hat on that deal. All right. What you end up with when you're done with this exercise is a three by five card that you can carry with you.
And we're going to be talking on later on about watching.
And if you can watch what's going on and all of a sudden you realize sometime during your day that your restless, irritable discontent, by doing the second step proposition exercise, you'll have done the spiritual work at a moment of serenity. So when you're feeling the angst and the anger and the resentment, the agitation, all you have to do is slam on the brakes and do what the book says,
Turn to God, whip out your card and look at it because you've already done all the homework. It's all right here. And there's a clear cut set of directions. You don't need to run to your sponsor, you know, call up, pick up the telephone. You can go to the bathroom, whip out the card, do what it says on the card, and get right back into the spiritual groove in 30 seconds, a minute at the most, and start heading down the path towards getting reclaiming your connection, conscious contact with God.
Here's my experience with it. I just did this exercise formally after I did the inventory with Mark
like 3 weeks ago, four weeks ago. And actually whatever, however long it was very recently, you know, so I gave you guys that exercise last night and I went home back to my hotel room and I said I did my meditation. He did a quiet hour afterwards because I always do a quiet hour afterwards. I do, I need to do step work of any kind, even one of these workshops. And I'm weeping and I'm having this wonderful experience and I'm thanking God from the bottom of my heart that I know him better. And
that thought pops into my head. Second step proposition exercise. And my ego immediately runs out and grabs a hold of that and says, you just did it. Go to bed
and I said, wait a minute, slam on the brakes. I recognize my character. There it was. I saw the the defect. He said, I'll sit down. I wrote out I meditated and nothing was coming to me in meditation. So I wrote out four things, I think. And I got up this morning and I went into meditation this morning and I took a look at what I'd written last night and I could see that it was completely a manifestation of my ego. I was trying to force something onto the piece of paper. And I went into, in a piece of period of serenity coming out of meditation and wrote it down. I came up with five areas. If you had asked me walking into this workshop yesterday
had any areas that I had not given to God, I would have said no God, He's got my life. The reality is I came up with five areas. I had a new experience last night. All right, So what do you do with the areas that you haven't given to God or you're unwilling to give to God? Right. You draw a line on the piece of paper. And if you look on page seven of the guide,
I give you an example.
You ask yourself the question, why am I afraid to give these areas to God? And you're going to come up with a list of fears. All right, you noticed I numbered them one to 15. This is just a completely fabricated list, but there they are. And I listed those down.
Once you've got a list of fears, then you can go to the big book to page 68 where it gives us the fear instruction. At the bottom of phase 68, it says we ask God to remove the fear. And everybody stops right there. They say, OK, God, please remove these fears.
That instruction on page 68 in the big book is an and remember I said you get a language exercise. That means it's conditional. There's two pieces for that statement to be to work. You have to ask God to remove the fear, but you also have to ask God what he would have you be,
not what he would have you do. So what does God want? Let's look at the career. If I'm not getting what I want in my career and I'm not getting enough money, what does God want me to be when I'm not getting what I want? He wants me to great, be grateful for what I have. He wants me to be patient and faithful. So in a moment of serenity, you write these things down and I number for each one of the the fears, the one to 15 fears I have one to 15 on the backside of the car card what God wants me to be. So let's say I'm, I'm at work
and I just found out I got pressed over for promotion.
That's just triggered one of my fears. And now I'm agitated and my bosses and I am pissed because he was telling me that oh, you don't worry, we'll take care of you at the end of the year when promotion time comes around. And they just passed me over and I got bug kiss. I didn't get a diddly squat from my company. All right, I'm agitated, I'm discontented and all of a sudden I recognize it and say, wait a minute, you're out of whack. I go to the men's room, I whip out my 3 by 5 card. Which area? It's career. Which fear is it? It's #2 I'm not getting enough money in a So I asked God to remove that fear. God, please remove my fear of not getting enough money. Help me to be trusting in you.
And then I look over on the backside of the car and what am I supposed to be? I'm supposed to be grateful for what I have and be patient and faithful. And I ask myself the question, how can I do that right this minute?
What can I be? I'm supposed to be of service. I should be grateful for this job. Thank God I'm not in the gutter anymore. How can I go back? And I walk up to my boss. I say thank you for being so honest. I know that was hard for you to tell me I got passed over. I really appreciate your candor and your friendship. Besides the fact that you're my boss. I know it's really got to suck that you got to tell me I didn't get a promotion this year. I don't hold it against you. And I'm going to make a commitment to you that I'm going to be the best possible employee I can be that I can. I'm not going to affect my job and I'm not going to go get angry and run off and try to float my resume because I they weren't treating me the way I deserve
treated type deal. All right, can you see how you've just shifted your ego instead of the hamster getting on the wheel and you start thinking about how you're going to get even with your company. Now you're out being of service to God right on the spot. And what did it take? It took consciousness to realize that you were off the spiritual beam. Most of us in sobriety have that, but we recognize we're off the beam and we think to ourselves, our ego runs in and says, well, we'll take care of that in a few minutes because we're wallowing in the messy ball, getting a miss shape and pleasure out of it. We really enjoyed that, that angst and being that agitated because
justifies all those feelings and all the inventory that we've never written that we know we should have and all those sort of things that are bottled up inside of us. We let it get out a little bit and we we live in that. We do a few character defects. We hurt a few people knowing full well that we can go back and clean it up later on.
That's not that the steel is about. This deal is trying to practice these principles. If I can recognize them off the base, how can I get back on the beam to get back connected to God? For me, this is a powerful, powerful, powerful tool. I've been using it on a regular basis.
All right, there's another tool that I use that that I'll talk about with inventory. When we start talking about the actual fear inventory. It's a very similar, very similar tool and you'll notice my 3 by 5 card, I do the same thing. I do what I the suggestions I, I tell you guys to do. It's all stuff that I'm doing. I for me, this works. Don't discount this unless you've tried it. If you try it, it doesn't work. God bless you. Go with God. Sorry it didn't work for you. We'll try it for somebody else,
but the people that I know that do this, it works fantastically and it's a wonderful deal. So I just wanted to kind of bring you guys full read those pages. I give a much better description in the pages and I talk about Harry Tebow in there I think, and there's there's some history a little bit in there sometime before the end of this weekend. Do yourself the favor of looking at that and your homework for tonight is to complete your your second step proposition exercise. Draw the line on the paper right at the top. Why am I afraid to give this to God? List your
years and on the backside of the paper, write out what God wants you to be and then when you get home, transpose all that under 3 by 5 card and carry it with you and try it for a couple weeks and see if it works for you. Now I'm going to kick it back over to Mark and he's going to take you through a guided meditation on this to see how does this apply? How does Step 2 apply to 10:00 and 11:00? How can you connect this deal together?
We were left with the idea on page 53 of looking at her second step about when we become Alcoholics.
Crushed by a self-imposed crisis we could not postpone or evade. We had to fearlessly face the proposition either God is everything or he's nothing. God either is or he isn't. What is our choice to be and
we looked at
I, I, I ask each of you to consider the fact that you might have some current agnosticism going on last night. And so I went back to the room and
I sat down and and got quiet and got into some prayer and
some things rolled off my pin about one areas of my life have not given
obvious. You have seen me out there in the smoke break. So,
so that one is is a no brainer. So I have not been willing to give smoking to God. So that shows up in the list. Last night. I realized that there's still areas in which at times I will experience financial fears. So financial fears went on my list last night.
It appears to me that there's going to be some changes in my lifestyle
and I had to put that on there.
So those were the, the three
major things that I, that I wrote out on that list that I
might through a course of action. It was obvious to me that I had either not given to God because I was asleep or perhaps was unwilling to because of my selfishness. And so I put those down and then I went ahead and, and, and I did the second part of this as well. Why? Why have you been willing to give this to God?
And there's a long list of reasons, of course, why you know, they may be a little different, but it's everything from pain to the unknown to more often than not, for me, it's always the unknown. And then more often than not that puts me back into self-reliance. So then I just stay like the rat in the maze. Nothing happens.
Then the third part of that is, you know, what would God have me be? And then I wrote that out. So we talked earlier about when you get to the 10 step, it says you've entered the world of the Spirit. And what I want to show you all
is everything we're doing here this weekend. And every step really is incorporated in the spiritual dimension of the 10th and 11th step. So I want you to open your big book up to the 10th step on page 84. And I want you to show, I want to show you what I did this morning in meditation with the things that I'd realized. And then I'm going to do a guided meditation because every one of us in this room, if we take the areas.
Right now of our life in which we're experiencing fear or we're not at peace or we're having difficulties,
we everyone of us share all these areas in common, from our physical body to our relationships with others, to financial to you name it. And I want to do a guided meditation with you this morning on, on what how I did that, but I draw your attention to 84. Basically what what we did was we went to an exercise and we watched for his selfishness, dishonesty, resentment and fear, right?
And at the bottom of the page, here's how I begin to work with this.
Here's how I use the tools and the power of the 10 step to identify what what I just went over with you says I've ceased fighting anything or anyone Dash, even alcohol. By the time you get to this step. This is about a lot more than just so I'm going to cease fighting. The fact that I'm still smoking, that I have financial and that I'm going to probably have a change in my lifestyle.
I'm not going to fight that anymore because there's a spiritual law. The spiritual law is what I resist persists that which I fear has come upon me, which is why in the 10 step it says, Mark, cease fighting because if you're fighting, you're unwilling to accept what is.
It says by this time sanity will have returned.
It is insane to resist what is including your fears. You understand what I just said. Sanity stands for soundness of mind. It is insane to resist what is including the fears that you have identified and then it goes into liquor with us here, we'll seldom be interested in liquor If tempted, I'm going to recoils from a hot plain. I'm going to be react seenly and normally. Anything that you wrote that you were unwilling to give up,
that you have not given up to God. You can plug in where it says liquor. I can begin to react sanely normally, and this can happen to me automatically. I'll be given a new attitude toward what? Toward money, toward relationships, toward career, toward my body with no thought or effort. It will come. That is the miracle. I will get placed into position, neutrality safe and protected because the problem has been removed. The problem will not exist for and I am neither cocking nor am I afraid.
That is my experience. That is how I react so long as I keep in fit spiritual condition.
Early on, our big book said that spiritual principles would solve all of our problems in fit spiritual condition. Once I identify what it is that I have not been willing to give to God and I gave you some tools to look at that yesterday. If you got fear going on in any year of your life, that's an area of your life you've been unwilling to give to God. And then the second question we were posed with is, OK, it's obvious I haven't been willing to give that to God or, or I maybe I was asleep to the fact that it was even going on.
And it's saying that we can get restored to sanity around all of these things,
any of these pieces that you are either unwilling to give to God or just haven't given to God, albeit your career or your finances or money or your physical health or relationships or anything else which is not under God's umbrella, in which God is not everything in your life. Because here's what we're going to do
if you, if you, if we have not placed everything, and I mean everything in the hands and, and the direction and guidance of God, then I'm going to turn and rely on self. And then that means in that area of my life, I'm paralyzed with fear all day long and I cannot be useful to you. And it's about my agnosticism. So that's how you begin to this 10th and 11th step to get present, to have conscious contact, to get back on the beam or whatever you want to do it
to, to realize that really the first nine steps, ladies and gentlemen, are simply designed to allow you to experience the 4th dimension of existence, to grow an understanding and effectiveness and use those tools the rest of your life on a daily basis, minute by minute by minute. You know that the deal in a is not the first nine steps. It's the steps 1011 and 12 to live in that dimension, see, to go through life within a weakened spirit. And now I want to. I want you all to
put your feet on the floor
and
I want you to close your eyes
and I'm going to do a guided meditation with you. All that I did this morning with with myself that I felt led to to do with you. And as I do this, let's all remember that that we are a spiritual body and, and that that we are one.
Heavenly Father, I, we come to you this morning in, in fellowship and love and, and we come to you, Father, knowing that there's nothing but oneness in this room. And we come to you, Father, having looked at things in which we have not made you everything in, in our life or things in which, Father, we have been willing to give up. And for every one of us in this room, Father, all of these things seem to be there. We all have some problems going on with our physical health, Father, whether it's smoking or nutrition
or cholesterol or anything else. And for whatever reason, we ask that you will forgive us for our unwillingness to either give that to you or to trust that you'll give us a course of action to do something about that, Father, in terms of our careers and jobs, Father, we seem to have at times fears and insecurities about that and whether it's our capacity to perform that job or whether I should be in that job, Father. And again, I ask that you forgive me for my agnosticism in this area and knowing full well that I'm your child,
that you will always provide and care for me. Father, in all my personal relationships with significant other, with everyone I come in contact with. Father, I ask that you forgive me for any of my fears and selfishness in those dealings with those people.
And I asked Father that you helped me be willing to turn all of those relationships over to your love and to Your care and into Your direction. We asked last Father in the area of our spiritual life that we lose any fears, Father, where it is that you might take us and what you might have us be bothered to be Your child. To understand that we're like that 2 year old child who has complete faith and complete trust,
never questions that it's going to be fed or clothed or provided for, loved or nurtured, and just enjoys the fullness of life. And we know Father, that you can forgive us for the times that we have fallen asleep in this last few months in the areas in which we have relied on self. And we truly ask that You open our hearts up to Your love, for we know that Your room has many mansions which you are always trying to give us and which we continually block off Father,
Father, I ask today as we go through this day, that everyone's hearts in here be touched by your deep, deep love and that they know that You are there for them in every single area of their life. That all their fear can be taken away and dissipate. We ask this in Jesus name, Amen.
Mark spoke of the two year old child. You guys haven't figured it out. I'm real big on that, that little child that's within. And
remember I said yesterday that I love watching little kids and they
love everything unconditionally. But one of the other things that you see from the little kids is everything is exciting. Everything is a new experience. They are change. They embody change. They embody love and change. So what's the most common topic in Alcoholics Anonymous meetings? Except we don't like change. You hear that all the time. I don't like change. I don't like change. I don't like change.
What happened from the two year old child to the however old you are child that's sitting right here right now. Something occurred
and let me hopefully I'll have a little shift here. It's not that we don't like change. That is the delusion. Once again, Alcoholics don't have denial, they have delusion. That's the delusion that our ego has built. It's not change that we're afraid of. It's the resistance to the change. Our problem is not the fact that we, we, we don't change. Everything changes. Remember, the Wii has to change.
Everything's constantly changing. Our problem is our resistance to change,
because if we don't resist, what's going to happen? We don't resist the change. That means we can't be in control.
It's our attempt at control that we don't want to change. But if I've just given God everything, guess what? I don't get a vote anymore. My sponsor, my first sponsor, made me right where I would see it every day, all day. What I want does not matter because I don't have a vote. I'm done. If I've given God everything, it's His vote, not mine. No matter what happens, whether it's my health, my job, my career, doesn't matter.
You know, I'm almost 20 years sober. And if you look at the dashboard of my car, right
on the speedometer, it says what I want does not matter. So when little Gray hair pulls out in front of Maine and she's doing 25 and a 55, and I'm getting really angry, you know, and I'm blocked in behind her and there's a cop right behind me. So I can't pass her on the double yellow, can't go up on the curb. I look down at the speedometer at my next glance is what I want doesn't matter. And I go,
thank you God, thank you for giving me this opportunity to spend a minute with you. And I immediately go into prayer
because what else am I going to do? I can sit there and get angry and frustrated or I can just be in the moment. I can be back to that 2 year old little kid and saying what a neat opportunity. You know, how many times have you driven, you know, you drove here. Can you consciously think of five important things that occurred on your drive over here? Or were you driving over here thinking about what's going to happen at this conference?
You were completely asleep to what was going on in the car. You weren't present. You weren't awake. You were just
going to the deal, you know, and I do that. I'm guilty of it. It reminds me of how asleep I go through life. If I can get back into tune that the hamster's back on the wheel. My ego is constantly trying to Get Me Out of the present moment. The second step proposition is a powerful way. If you can really give everything to God, you can be in the moment 'cause you have nothing else to fear. You know, you have to hinge on the fact that God is everything
to have the trust
and, and that leads us down to where we are. Yesterday, we before, before we left, the guy came up to me and he said, he said, I'm an atheist. He said, what do I do about this? And I said, well, you having any troubles in your life? Are you having any areas of your life that are it's not working for you? You're, you're feeling a little bit powerless. And he said, yes. And I said, well, write that out. If he can't have the concept of God, if he believes that there's no God. I remember I said I can work with an atheist or an agnostic if that's his concept.
We'll go through the exercise. We're just going to see where he's powerless and do the exact same exercise. And eventually he's going to come up to the, to the realization that if he's powerless, then then what? Where is he going to be? And in God's time, he'll figure out something. You know, Doctor Bob's
and has what they call the God experiment. Alcoholics Anonymous comes of age page 59. It says, I know you're going to gag on this, but they taught me that I should try to pray to whatever God I thought there was for the power to carry out these precepts. And if I did not believe that there was any God, then I had better try the experiment of praying to whatever God there might be.
If you're working on saying this from a 12 step perspective, if you get somebody that's atheist or agnostic, have them do the exercise for the areas that they know that their life is screwed up in. And then have them just go through and do the God experiment. Remember I said you don't have to believe this is going to work. Try it and look back and tell me whether it works or not. Try the a prayer, even if it's the nothingness to a vacuum. You don't believe there's anything out there. Try it and see what happens.
God loves you enough that something's going to change if you take the action. That's my experience.
If you go to page 4 of the guide,
I list down basically the pieces that you need for Step 2, the four requirements for spiritual growth. You got to lay aside prejudice, express even a willingness to believe in a power greater than yourself, earnestly seek God. That's the third requirement to commence spiritual growth. And that's what Mark and I are talking about, seeking God, right? It's in the process of seeking that the change happens.
The first thing we have to do, remember acceptance, action, result.
Except the fact that we're powerless. Step one, The foundation of step one is complete willingness. If somebody's not willing, then you can't go any further with them. You see that all the time. Alcoholics run up to me all the time. Dave, Dave, I want what you have. Take me through the steps. And I say, are you willing? And they say, oh, yeah, I'm willing, Willie, willing. Remember I said I'm a shoe man. I say, OK, we'll do this. If if his actions don't dictate, he doesn't do it, then I know he's not willing. And I say go with God. I'm here if you need me. When you hurt bad enough, come back and see me. You know, I always leave the door open
ever, ever fire response E There's no such thing, All right? We are here to be of service for God, and I can't give him something I don't have. If he's coming to me, he must want what I have. So I have to tell him what I have. This is what I got. Do you want it? Are you completely willing to do whatever it is that I do to get what I have? And if the guy has willingness, then we can move forward. And immediately we jump right into Step 2 and I'm going to have him seeking God.
Whether he believes in God or not, I'm going to have him seeking it. And if he finds a God, it will be from the process of seeking.
So whether he believes in God, atheist, agnostic or other, get him seeking and see what happens in the proof of the pudding is in the eating, as my grandmother used to say. How well does the recipe work? Take a bite and let's see, you know?
So then you have the cornerstone, cornerstone question. Do I now believe, am I even willing to believe that there's a power greater than myself? Then we talked about just briefly, the three barriers to spiritual growth. Obstinacy. That's the mule headedness sensitive. Whoever said Alcoholics are overly sensitive? We're the most touchy, you know, sensitive emotionally. People, our feelings get hurt at the drop of a hat.