Working with others at the Knights of Columbus meeting in Netcong, NJ
Our
speaker
from
the
South
Sussex
young
people's
meeting,
Kathleen.
Wow.
Thanks.
Hi,
I'm
Kathleen.
I'm
an
alcoholic.
Hey,
I
am
so
happy
to
be
here.
My
sobriety
anniversary
is
May
14th,
1987.
I
got
the
gift
of
sobriety
very
early
in
life
and
I'm
truly
grateful
for
that.
Come
next
Tuesday,
I
will
have
26
years
of
continuous
sobriety
and
I'm
47
years
old
and
that
is
truly
a
miracle.
I
have
a
Home
group,
I
have
a
sponsor
who
has
a
sponsor
and
a
grand
sponsor.
I
have
a
support
network.
I
sponsor
women.
I
have
commitments
within
my
Home
group
of,
of
the
Sparta
S
Sussex.
And
I
see
some
of
the
guys
that
I
know
from
there.
And
I,
I
have
always
found
it
especially
important
to
have
a,
a
strong
base
in
a,
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Before
I
continue
with
my
story,
I
really
need
to
share
something.
I
I
went
to
awake
today,
two
friends
of
mine
who
have
been
sober
in
a
a
for
a
long
time,
They're
they're
23
year
old
son
committed
suicide
and
I
went
to
his
wake
today
and
it
is
just
absolutely
jarring.
He
had
been
struggling
with
drugs
and
alcohol
and
just
couldn't
quite
get
the
program
and
took
his
own
life
on
Saturday
morning
and
it
was
just
absolutely
horrific.
And
I
think
the
reason
why
it's
hitting
me
so
hard
is
because
that
could
be
me.
That
could
have
been
GAIL
and
Rick,
could
have
been
my
parents
from
when
I
was
when
I
was
drinking
and
drugging.
Or
that
could
be
me
if
my
children
had
grown
up
in
an
alcoholic
home
or
a,
you
know,
a
home
where
there
was
active
addiction
and,
and
they
haven't,
um,
I,
I
don't
know,
I
just,
I
feel
so
sad
inside
for
those
people.
And,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
the
program
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
just
a
wonderful
program
because
the
amount
of
people
there
from
a,
a,
at
2:00
this
afternoon
was
just
absolutely
phenomenal.
The,
the
show
of
support,
the,
you
know,
that
line
that,
that
gentleman
just
read
that
we
are
folks
who
normally
would
not
mix
is
especially
true,
especially
with
something
like
this.
I'll
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
myself,
what
it
was
like,
what
happened
and
what
it's
like
now.
And,
and
you
know,
I,
I
really,
really
believe
in
the
program
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
I
took
my
first
drink
when
I
was
eight
years
old
And
I,
and
I
really
think
that
that's
why
I
was
able
to
get
sober
at
such
a
young
age.
My
my
dad
was
an
active
alcoholic
and
so
he
gave
me
my
first
drink.
My
brother,
my
youngest
brother
had
his
own
little
wine
glass,
so
drinking
was
very
normal
for
us.
We
didn't
know
any
differently.
So
when
I
was
looking
to
quiet
that
voice
inside
my
head
that
never
shut
up
and
I
found
alcohol
at
8,
that
did
the
trick.
And
that
was
my
solution
for
many
years.
I
had
always
had
a
very
depressive
personality.
I
was
never
a
happy
kid.
Once
I
found
alcohol,
that
really
didn't
change.
I
was
not
a
happy
drunk.
I
was
a
miserable
drunk.
I
was
either
crying
on
the
on
the
curb
or
I
was
fighting
OK.
Started
getting
into
fistfights
in
like
second
and
third
grade.
Didn't
really
look
like
the
woman
I
look
like
now.
I
was
not
an
especially
calm
person.
I
was
always
angry
and
alcohol
helped
me
to
calm
down.
It
helped
to
calm
that
voice
inside
my
head
that
was
constantly
going.
It
helped
later
in
life
for
me
to
fit
in
with
people
who
were
just
like
me.
And
that's
something
that
I
was
always
looking
for,
you
know,
I
was
always
looking
to
fit
in
and
to
be
with
people
that
were
just
like
me.
When
I
went
to
junior
high,
I
had
some
especially
tough
times.
I
really
wasn't
getting
along
with
people.
I
wasn't
doing
well
in
school.
I
was
drinking
a
lot.
And
you
know,
I
did
do
some
non
conference
approved
substances
because
growing
up
in
Whippany,
which
is
where
I
grew
up,
you
know
what,
like
ten,
11-12
years
old,
sometimes
it
was
easier
to
get
those
things
than
it
was
to
get
alcohol.
Alcohol
was
always
my
first
love
though,
and
really
my
only
love.
So
when
I
went
to
when
I
went
to
junior
high,
I
was
pretty
much
a
loner,
you
know?
And
when
I
started
high
school
my
freshman
year,
I
did
not
have
one
single
friend,
OK?
I
ate
lunch
by
myself.
I
didn't
talk
to
a
soul.
I
didn't
go
out
in
the
evening.
I
drank
by
myself
and
I
pretty
much
let
a
miserable
existence.
I
was
the
oldest
child
of
four
and
so
when
I
started
high
school,
there
wasn't
anyone
there,
even
even
my
siblings
for
me
to
hang
out
with.
So
my
freshman
year
was
really
bad.
And
at
that
time
I
really,
I
really
thought
of
of
ending
it
all.
I
really,
my,
my
mom
and
dad
were
especially
concerned
because
I
had
a
suicide
plan
and
that's
why
I
said
that
Corey
could
have
been
me.
He
definitely
could
have.
I
could
have
been
that
person
when
I,
when
I
entered
my
fresh,
my
sophomore
year
in
high
school,
I
started
dating
and
I,
I
got
a
boyfriend
and
that
didn't
seem
to
work
out.
And,
and
he
was
especially
needy.
And
you
know,
I,
I
just
couldn't
do
anything
right
and,
and
yadda,
yadda,
yadda.
And
you
know
what,
I
just
wanted
to,
I
just
wanted
to
drink
in
peace.
I
wanted
to
hang
out
with
people
who
drank
like
I
did,
and
I
wanted
to
do
what
I
wanted
to
do,
OK?
And
you
aren't
going
to
stop
me
when
I,
when
I
entered
my
junior
year
in
high
school,
I
got
a
long
term,
I
got
into
a
long
term
commitment
with
the
guy
that
I
went
to
high
school
with.
And
that
carried
me
through
till
I
graduated
and
started
college.
And
by
this
time
my
drinking
was
really,
really
bad.
I
was
getting
drunk
all
the
time
and
I
was
not
getting
along
with
people
and
not
getting
along
with
myself.
I
started
college,
I
started
at
County
College
Amaris
after
I
graduated
by
the
skin
of
my
teeth
and
pretty
much
failed
out
of
that.
Didn't
really
apply
myself
too
much.
And
just
whatever
I
did,
if
it
got
in
the
way
of
my
drinking,
that
went
on
the
back
burner.
My
drinking
was
always
number
one.
OK,
and
so
after
so
after
I
found
out
of
college,
I,
I
like
to
tell
this
story
because
it's
especially
important
in
how
I
got
sober.
I
started
working
at
a
bank
in
Cedar
Knolls
and
I
was
around
19
years
old
and
this
bank
was
across
the
street
from
a
church
and
we're
Oats
E
is
Notre
Dame
church.
And
every
day
this
priest
would
come
in
and
bring
the
deposit.
And
it
had
been
a
really
long
time
before
anyone
really
looked
at
me
and
saw
me
and
saw
me
for
who
I
really
was.
And
so
how
unhappy
I
was
and
saw
the
pain
that
I
was
going
through
in
my
life
with
my
drinking.
And
this
this
priest
just
looked
at
me
and
started
talking
to
me.
And
he
would
come
in
every
day
and
he
would
just
say,
Hey,
Kathleen,
how
you
doing
today?
And
I
would
just
say,
I'm,
I'm
doing
OK,
Father
Jude,
or,
you
know,
but
the
fact
that
he
paid
me
some
attention,
the
fact
that
he
looked
me
in
the
looked
me
in
the
eye
really,
really
made
a
difference
in
my
life
in
the
next
couple
years.
After
a
little
while,
he
started
asking
me
if
I
wanted
to
go
on
this
young
people's
retreat.
OK.
And
I
really
had
lost
my
faith
and
lost
my
belief
in
God
a
long
time
before
because,
you
know,
if
there
really
was
a
God,
then
he
wouldn't
have
given
me
the
life
that
I
had
had
up
until
that
point,
you
know,
and,
and
that's
really
what
I
thought.
He
wouldn't
have
let
all
these
bad
things
happen
to
me.
You
know,
I
believe
now
that
I
had
self
will
and
that
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
happened
to
me
in
my
life
was
the
result
of
my
own
will
and
doing
what
I
wanted
to
do.
But
that's
not
how
I
thought
back
then.
So
the
priest,
Father
Jude,
started
asking
me
if
I
wanted
to
go
on
what's
called
an
Antioch
retreat.
And
he
did
that
for
about
two
years.
He
was
really,
really
persistent.
OK,
He
probably
knew
I
needed
persistence
because
I
was
a
very
persistent
individual.
I
was
a
very
stubborn
and
very
defiant.
I
was
a
very
defiant
person.
And
I'm
still
somewhat
defiant.
You
can
just
ask
my
friends
and
and
my
family
and
they'll
say,
you
know,
she's,
she's
definitely
defiant.
But
I'm
not
as
bad
after,
after
all
this
time.
But
back
then
I
was
really
defiant.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
example,
I
would,
you
know,
my
mom
would
say,
oh,
we're
going
shopping
at
the
mall
and
I'd
get
into
a
little
bit
of
an
argument
with
her
and
she
would
beg
me,
Kathleen,
please
come
with
me.
Please
come
with
us
to
the
mall.
We
really
want
you
to
come.
No,
mom,
no,
I
don't
want
to
go.
I
don't
want
to
go.
I
don't
want
to
go.
And
I'd
watch
my
mom
roll
down
the
driveway.
And
in
my
mind,
I
would
say
to
myself,
if
she
had
only
asked
me
one
more
time
to
go
to
the
mall,
I
would
have
went.
You
know,
she
had
only
asked
me
like
50
times.
I
mean,
but
it
would
have
taken
that
51st
time
for
her
to,
for,
for
me
to
go.
So
anyway,
Father
Jude
finally
said
to
me,
Kathleen,
we're
having
an
Antioch
retreat
right
across
the
street,
right
at
the
church.
Do
you
want
to
come?
And
I
said,
Jess,
and
that
wasn't
me
saying
yes.
That
was
God
saying
yes
for
me.
I
said
yes.
And
I
said,
I'm
like,
Oh
my
God,
who
said
that?
You
know,
it
certainly
wasn't
me.
But
I
went
on
that
retreat.
And
a
lot
of
times
what
you
get
on
a
retreat
like
that
is
you
get
people,
young
people
who
are
really
wanting
to
grow
in
their
own
spirituality.
And
you
get
people
like
me
who
are
looking
for
something
through
drugs
and
alcohol.
And
I'm
sure
you
can
guess
which
people
I
gravitated
towards,
OK?
I
gravitated
towards
the
people
that
were
just
like
me.
And
over
the
next
six
months,
I
hung
with
those
people
and
I
was
still
continuing
to
drink.
My
life
was
really
spinning
out
of
control.
I
was,
you
know,
starting
to
lose
jobs
and
starting
to
have
some
health
effects
from
alcohol
at
20
years
of
age
and
just
was
not
a
responsible
member
of
society.
And
when
I
finally
went
to
my
first
a
a
meeting,
it
was
because
I
had
been
involved
in
this
Bible
youth
group
through
the
retreat.
I
met
these
guys
and
these
guys
we
met
at
their
house
once
a
week,
kind
of
a
youth
group,
you
know,
maybe
discuss
the
Bible
a
little
bit.
What's
troubling
you?
Maybe
we
can,
you
know,
seek
a
solution
through
through
the
Bible,
stuff
like
that,
Like
we
almost
like
we
do
here.
And
those
two
brothers
brought
me
to
my
very
first
a
a
meeting
I
didn't
know
I
was
going
to
a
name
meaning.
So
I
went
to
my
first
meeting
drunk.
I
had
never
heard
of
AI.
So,
you
know,
it's
when,
when
I,
when
I
share
from
the
podium,
it
just
amazes
me
that
I
had
never
heard
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
I
had
never
known
one
single
soul
that
had
that
had
ever
been
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
So
the
fact
that
I'm
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
an
absolute
miracle.
My
very
first
meeting
was
at
Saint
Pete's
in
Morristown.
It
was
the
Friday
night
big
huge
anniversary
meeting.
Probably
well
over
200
people
at
this
meeting.
And
at
the
time
when
I
got
sober,
I
was
a
vegetarian.
I
didn't
eat
much.
And
when
I
did
eat,
there
wasn't
much
that
I
ate.
OK,
so
this
meeting
was
an
eating
meeting.
And
we
got
to
the
meeting
late
and
they
were,
they
were
setting
up
all
the
food.
And
all
I
could
think
about
was,
Oh
my
God,
I
can't
wait
to
eat.
You
know,
I
am
psyched.
We
didn't
stay
for
the
food,
but
we
went
to
that
meeting.
And
I
don't
know
what
that's
that
speakers,
you
know,
shared.
But
I
do
remember
who
he
was.
His
name
was
Hap.
He
was
a,
a
pillar
of
society
in
Morristown.
He
has
since
passed
away.
And
I
remember
his
name
and
I
remember
who
he
was
because
his
name
was
happened.
He
was
happy
and
that's
pretty
much
all
I
remember.
My
second
meeting
was
on
the
Saturday.
I
don't
remember
where
it
was
because
I
was
drunk.
And
then
the
third
meeting
that
I
went
to,
I
went
to
drunk
also.
But
that
was
in
Livingston.
OK.
I'm
pretty
sure
it
was
in
Livingston.
I
or
you
know,
West
Orange
there.
It
was
in,
in
Saint
Barnabas.
It
was
an,
a
meeting
that
meets
there
on
Sunday
nights.
So
that
was
my
first
introduction
to
AA.
And
then
someone
said
to
me,
Kathleen,
why
don't
you
try
and
go
to
a
meeting
sober?
OK,
You
know
what?
When,
when
I
am
working
with
someone
who's
brand
new,
I
don't
take
for
granted
that
they
know
what
they're
doing.
It
never
even
occurred
to
me
to
go
to
a
meeting
sober.
And
unless
someone
you
know,
thank
God
someone
told
me
to
go
to
a
meeting
sober
'cause
I
because
I
may
not
have
for
a
while.
My
first
or
second
meeting
sober
was
was
right
before
Saint
Patrick's
Day.
One
of
my
goals
in
life.
Now,
I
had
just
turned
21,
one
of
my
goals
in
life
was
to
go
to
Molly
Malone's
in
Whippany
when
I
was
21,
and
I
found
myself
at
an
Alcoholics
Anonymous
meeting
and
I'm
like,
what
the
heck
am
I
doing
here?
Why
aren't
I
at
Molly's?
OK.
They
told
me
it
was
a
closed
meeting
so
that
I
was
going
to
have
to
introduce
myself.
I
said
I
don't
want
to
introduce
myself.
They
said
you
have
to
introduce
yourself
as
an
alcoholic
because
it's
a
closed
meaning.
I
said
I
don't
want
to
because
I
don't
believe
that
I'm
an
alcoholic.
They
said,
well,
let's
go
in.
You
know,
God
in
his
infinite
wisdom
and
sense
of
humor,
put
me
in
that
Florham
Park.
It
was
the
Florham
Park
5:30
meeting
and
it
was
so
crowded
that
I
was
standing.
I
was
standing
up.
I
was
behind
the
the
row
of
folding
chairs
where
there
were
people
sitting.
I
was
to
my
to
my
right
was
a
refrigerator
to
my
left
was
like
a
cases
of
Styrofoam
cups.
So
I
was
like
in
this
little
area
standing
there
like
this,
I
was
trapped.
OK,
And
this
is
my
first
time.
Then
I
have
to
introduce
myself
and
I
was
freaking
out.
OK.
And
so
they're
going
around
the
room
and
they're
everyone's
introducing
themselves
and
it's
coming
up
to
me
and
I'm
get,
you
know,
I
don't,
I
don't
normally
get
nervous.
I
don't
get
sweaty
palms.
I'm,
I'm
pretty
calm,
you
know,
I,
I
don't
get
nervous
in
front
of
large
crowds
or
anything
like
that,
but
I
was
getting
nervous
and
I
believe
that
was
God
shaking
the
truth
out
of
me.
I
really
do.
So
it
gets
around
to
me
and
I
say,
I'm
Kathleen
and
I'm
an
alcoholic.
And
then
the
next
thing
that
goes
through
my
head
is
that
was
the
biggest
lie
I'd
ever
told.
OK,
I
really
believe
that
I
was
lying.
I
really
did
not
believe
that
I
was
an
alcoholic.
I'm
like,
I'm
21
years
old.
How
could
I
be
an
alcoholic?
I've
never
really
had
a
legal
drink.
OK?
I've
never
been
to
happy
hour.
I
you
know
what?
We
can
leave
happy
hour
to
the
other
folks.
The
other
thing
that
I
really
like
to
share
is
one
more
story.
One
of
my
first
days
sober
and
my
brother
too.
We
were
like
2
raw
nerves.
My
brother's
a
big
guy.
He's
63,
he's
a
cop,
and
at
the
time
he
wasn't
a
cop,
he
was
a
teenager.
But
we
got
into
this
big
fist
fight
and
he
was
hitting
me
over
the
head
with
the
big
plastic
telephone
handle.
This
is
26
years
ago.
And
instead
of
picking
up
a
drink,
I
drive
myself
to
the
Florham
Park
meeting.
And
I'm
only
a
couple
days
sober.
And
I
walk
in
and
it's
way
before
the
meeting
supposed
to
start.
And
I
walk
in
and
there's
this
little
old
lady,
her
name
is
Terry.
Her
name
is
Terry
Diaz,
Terry
D
And
she
took
one
look
at
me
and
she
said
are
you
OK?
And
again,
like,
you
know,
I,
I'm
not
always,
I
was
not
always
an
especially
truthful
person.
If
someone
had
ever
asked
me
if
I
was
OK,
I
would
always
say
yes,
OK,
I'm
great,
OK.
And
Terry
asked
me,
Kathleen,
she
didn't
know
my
name
at
the
time,
are
you
OK?
And
I
said
no.
I
said
I
just
got
into
a
huge
fist
fight
with
my
brother.
He
hit
me
over
the
head
with
the
telephone
handle.
And
I'm
afraid
to
go
home.
And
those
were
the
magic
words.
From
there,
my
recovery
skyrocketed,
Terry
said.
Well,
you
know
what,
Kathleen?
You
won't
have
to
go
home,
she
said.
You're
gonna
stay
here
with
me
at
this
meeting,
then
we're
gonna
go
across
the
street
to
the
Minuteman
Diner.
We're
gonna
have
dinner,
and
then
I'm
gonna
bring
you
to
another
meeting
and
I'm
gonna
introduce
you
to
a
lot
of
women.
And
you're
gonna,
you're
gonna
be
my
buddy.
And
this
woman
saved
my
life,
and
she
introduced
me
to
women
who
called
me
their
pigeon
because
I
was
their
little
girl,
you
know,
and
they
just
took
care
of
me.
I
was,
you
know,
I
was
21
years
old.
I
did
have
one
one
relapse
for
one
day.
And
that
one
day
was
hell.
That
was
after
being
sober
for
59
days.
The
next
day
I
went
to
rehab
and
those
women
supported
me.
I
went
up
to
Sunrise
House.
I
was
the
youngest
person
at
Sunrise
House.
There
were
all
these
old
men.
And
unlike
I'm
surrounded
by
old
men,
I
don't
have
anything
in
common
with
them.
What
am
I
doing
here?
You
know,
I
hated
rehab.
I'm
not
really
one
to
be
locked
up
or
told
what
to
do.
Even
even
now
I'm,
you
know,
I
just
don't
really
enjoy
that.
OK,
I
like
to
do
my
own
thing.
But
at
that
time,
you
know,
there
were
not
a
lot
of
young
people.
There
really
weren't.
And
I
was
a
young
person
and
I
really,
really
needed
to
identify
with
these
people.
And
slowly
but
surely
at
Sunrise
House,
I
stopped
saying,
what
do
I
have
in
common
with
these
people,
with
these
old,
old
men?
And
slowly
the
transformation
was
I
have
everything
in
common
with
them.
And
you
know,
when
I
realized
that
that
was
just
an
especially
insightful
time
for
me.
And,
you
know,
for
my
whole
sobriety,
I've
really
come
to
find
that
we
really
have
nothing
that
that
says
that
we're
different.
You
know,
it
doesn't
matter
how
old
you
are
or
how
how
young
you
are.
My
I
have
close
friends
of
all
ages
and
I
belong
to
a
young
people's
group.
I
feel
especially
close
to
young
people
because
I
know
what
it's
like
to
try
and
get
sober
young.
It
it
was
not
easy.
And
back
in
87,
there
were
not
a
lot
of
young
people.
If
you
could
come
to
this
young
people's
meeting
and
see
the
young
people
now,
it's
just
absolutely
amazing.
And
these
people
are
our
future.
And
we
really
need
to,
you
know,
I
really
feel
like
I,
I
need
to
show
them
the
way,
like
I
was
shown
the
way
started
hanging
out
with
a
lot
of
women
and
they,
they
introduced
me
to
the
steps
and
they
introduced
me
to
the
traditions
and
they
introduced
me
to
service
work.
And
for
the
last
26
years,
that's
what
I've
done.
Now
my,
my
sobriety
has
not
always
been
easy.
It's
not
always
been
happy.
I
grew
up
in
IA,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
this
is
the
only
place
that
I
want
to
be.
My
first
year
of
sobriety
was
especially
difficult.
I
went
to
a
lot
of
meetings.
I
worked
with
my
sponsor,
I
think.
I
think
the
problem
was
that
I
had
too
many
commitments.
I
was
so
busy
making
coffee
and
cleaning
up
and
leading
and
and
secretary
and
GSR
and
just
everything
that
I
really
wasn't
focusing
on
my
recovery.
I
believe
that
I
can
have
too
many
commitments
where
I'm
not
really
paying
attention
to
living
in
the
moment.
I'm
not
having
that
living
in
the
moment
recovery
that
is
so
important.
And
so
I
had
to
get
rid
of
some
of
those
to
a
more
manageable
level.
And
now
I
have
a
commitment
in
my
Home
group.
We
just
got
done
with
our
very
first
picnic
because
we
celebrated
a
year
of
existence.
So
we
had
a
picnic
at
mainland
Dickerson
Park
in
Jefferson.
And
then
we
had
a
speaker
meeting
back
at
the
church
where
we
where
we
have
our
meeting.
And
then
we
had
a
bonfire
and
all
this
was
done
in,
you
know,
in
recovery.
And
it
was,
and
it
was
great
and
there.
And
you
know,
the
amazing
thing
is
that
I
woke
up
the
next
morning
and
I
remembered
everything
because
I
was
present.
My
middle
years
of
sobriety
were
were
kind
of
hard.
I
met
my
husband
in
recovery.
He's
he's
sober
too.
I
have
three
children
who
have
never
seen
me
drink.
My
parents
haven't
seen
me
drink
in
a
long
time.
My
siblings
haven't
seen
me
drink
in
a
long
time.
And
I
can't
tell
you
how
what
a
blessing
that
is.
The
fact
that
my
kids
have
grown
up
and
not
been
exposed
to
active
addiction
is
just
the
best
gift
that
I
I
believe
that
I
could
ever
give
them.
A
sober
mother
and
when,
when
I
had
about,
when
I
had
about
13
years,
my
13th
year
was
my
most
difficult
year.
I'm
not
really
sure
why
I
was
still
grounded
in
a
a,
but
I
had
some,
I
had
some
health
issues.
I
had
some
stuff
happen
to
me
that,
you
know,
maybe
I
couldn't
really
see
why
it
was
happening.
And
I,
I,
I
fought
it
and
I
was,
I
was
going
through
a
period
where
I
was
fighting
recovery.
And
yes,
I
liked
being
sober,
but
I
didn't
always
like
doing
what
I
had
to
do
to
stay
sober
and
happy,
joyous
and
freak.
And
so
I
went
through
a
period
where
I
was
kind
of
rebelling
against
that.
Excuse
me.
So
when
I,
so
when
I
had
13
years,
my
life
was,
was
really
going
down
the
tubes.
And
that's
when
I
got
on
the
recovery
path
that
I'm
on
now.
That's
when
I
got
a
new
sponsor,
Sharon.
Sharon
was
sponsoring
me
at
the
time.
Sharon
really
got
in,
got
me
involved.
We
I've
been
associated
with
a
women's
retreat
group
called
Keeping
the
Spirit
Alive
for
the
last
12
years
and
through
that
I
have
met
many
amazing
women.
But
also
through
that
I
have
come
to
find
a
new
lease
on
my
recovery.
When
I
had
about
18
years,
I
was
still
living
in
that
silent
worry
type
of
recovery
that
I
really
like.
I
wore
that
like
a
badge
of
honor.
I
am
worrying,
but
I'm
not
going
to
let
you
know
that
I'm
worried
about
things.
I'm
not
going
to
give
it
over
to
my
higher
power.
I'm
going
to
keep
it
inside
and
I'm
going
to
do
all
my
worrying
myself
and
wear
it
like
a
badge
of
honor.
And,
and
what
happened
was
I
got
shingles.
And
I
really
believe
that
my
worrying
and
the
way
that
I
was
dealing
with
life
emotionally
and
spiritually
and
physically
was
taking
a
toll
on
me
physically.
And
I
got
shingles
in
my
30s
and
I
was
really
sick.
And
I
believe
that
I
can
only
do
the
wrong
thing.
You
know
what?
It
wasn't
the
wrong
thing
because
it's
brought
me
to
where
I
am
today,
but
it
wasn't
the
healthiest
thing
that
I
could
have
been
doing.
And
I
could
only
do
that
for
so
long
before
it
took
an
effect
on
me.
And
it
did.
And
it
almost
cost
me
my
marriage,
it
almost
cost
me
my
relationship
with
my
children,
and
it
definitely
cost
me
my
relationship
with
myself.
And
it
I
paid
a
big
price
for
it.
Physically,
I
was
really
sick
for
a
while.
I
was
also
very
overweight
at
that
time.
And
slowly
but
surely
I've
been
able
to
shed
that
okay.
And
that's
through
the,
through
the
work
of,
of
the
12
steps,
the
12
traditions,
12
concepts
and
just
really
living
the
basic
principles
of
this
program.
A
couple
weeks
ago,
we
have
someone
in
our
life,
Poly
Pistol
and
Dave
Pistol.
They
are,
they're
from
Florida
and
they
do
a
workshop
working
the
traditions
and
all
your
relationships.
And
they
did
it
down
in,
in
Bergen
County.
And
I
went
and
I'll
tell
you
it
was
really
instrumental
because
they
work
the
traditions.
I
work
the
traditions
with
my
relationships
and
they
have
to
really
taught
me
that
the
tradition
are
are
going
to
keep
me
centered
in
my
in
my
either
my
family
group
or
my
friends
group.
It's
going
to
help
me
treat
people
the
way
they
need
to
be
treated.
Before
that,
I
treated
people
the
way
I
wanted
to
treat
them,
and
that
wasn't
always
so
great.
You
know,
I
was
always
a
big
a
big
person
to
want
what
I
want.
And
you
know,
I
paid
a
pretty
heavy
price
for
that.
The
way
that
I
conduct
my
relationships
now
and
my
recovery
now
is
to
really
be
present
in
the
moment
each
and
every
day.
You
know,
and
I
and,
and
that
really
just
pays
off
so
much
when
it
comes
to
my
children.
I'm
able
to
be
present
in
their
life.
If
they're
talking
to
me
and
they're
telling
me
something,
I'm
able
to
look
them
in
the
eye
and
listen
to
them.
If
I
was
drunk
or
I
was
doing
my
own
thing,
that
wouldn't
be
the
case
with
my
with
my
husband.
The
the
fact
that,
you
know,
we
can
sit
down
and
we
can
have
an
honest
conversation
about
anything
and
I
can
look
him
in
the
eye
and
I
can
let
him
know
that
he's
important
to
me.
You
know
that
makes
all
the
difference
in
the
world.
Didn't
always
believe
in
that
you
know
what
in
AAI
have
really
been
able
to
come
to
grow
up
and
say
I
am
going
if
if
I'm
thinking
of
you
or
I
love
you,
I'm
going
to
let
you
know
it
through
my
actions.
You
know,
not
just
my
words,
but
my
actions.
You
know,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
pay
you
respect.
I'm
going
to
listen
to
you.
When
you
tell
me
something,
I'm
going
to
look
you
in
the
eye.
I'm
going
to
give
you
my
undivided
attention.
You
know,
that's
something
that
I've
gotten
from
the
program.
When
I
bring
a
woman
through
the
steps,
we
do
it
with
the
big
book
and
we
sit
down
at
my
kitchen
table
or
a
Dunkin'
Donuts
or
something
like
that.
Right
now
I'm
working
with
someone
who's
brand
new
and
start
start
working
the
first
step,
started
reading
the
first
step
out
of
the
big
Book.
And
I
also
use
the
step
book
in
conjunction
with
the
big
Book.
And
I
started
bringing
her
through
the
steps.
I'm
working
with
a
woman
who
has
almost
26
years
who
hasn't
been
through
the
work.
And
I'll
tell
you,
I
think
it's
harder
to
work
with
someone
who's
been
sober
for
a
while,
who
hasn't
been
through
the
work,
who
thinks
they
have
been
through
the
work,
but
they
haven't.
Like
you
guys,
you
guys
know
what
I'm
talking
about,
you
know,
But
you
know
what,
I
can
really
relate
to
that
because
that
was
me.
That
was
me,
you
know,
and
I
never
give
up
on
people,
you
know,
because
it
doesn't
matter
why
someones
at
a
meeting.
The
fact
that
they've
been
introduced
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
just
an
absolute
miracle,
just
like
I
am.
I'm
active
in
my
Home
group.
Whatever.
Whatever
the
Home
group
needs,
I'm
there
for.
You
know,
that's
what
the
Home
group
is.
I'm
accountable
to
my
Home
group
and
I'm
accountable
to
my
friends
and
family.
We
have,
we
have
a
practice
in
all
the
serenities,
all
the
sobriety
sisters
that
if
there
is
an
issue
we
take,
we
take
it
through
the
steps
and
within
24
to
48
hours
we
are
sharing
them
with
someone.
And
that's,
that's
somewhat
of
an
active
tense
step,
but
it
can
also
be
a
little
mini
4th
step,
but
it
needs
to
be
current.
I
need
to
keep
my
sobriety
current.
What
am
I
doing
today
for
my
sobriety?
While
I'm
up
here
speaking
to
you,
I
am
sponsoring
women.
I
have
a
Home
group.
I
have
a
commitment
and
active
in
my
community.
I
show
up
to
work.
That's
also
very
important.
It's
that's
part
of
my
recovery,
is
showing
up
to
a
place
that
I'm
supposed
to
show
up
to
Because
if
I
was
drinking,
I
wouldn't
be
showing
up.
I
went
to
my
son's
lacrosse
game.
My
son
said,
are
you
going
to
be
coming
to
my
lacrosse
game
today,
mom?
I
said,
yes,
I
am.
And
I
showed
up.
OK.
That's
really
important
because
my
sponsor
that
I
have
now,
she
has
taught
me
that
you
mean
what
you
say.
You
say
what
you
mean,
don't
say
it
mean
and
you
do
it.
If
you
make
a
commitment
to
someone,
unless
it's
some
huge
ordeal
that
you're
going
through,
you
show
up
OK.
You
couldn't
count
on
me
when
I
was
active.
You
just
couldn't
count
on
me
for
anything.
Let's
see
what
else.
I
pray
and
meditate
every
morning
and
every
evening.
I
have
an
active
10th
and
11th
step,
and
I'll
tell
you,
I
also
have
a
tradition
of
making
a
gratitude
list
every
morning.
Let
me
list
10
things
and
I'm
grateful
for
it.
Well,
I'm
I'm
grateful
for
waking
up
and
I'm
grateful
for
my
job.
Yes,
I
don't
always
like
going
to
work.
Okay,
if
I
could
retire,
I
probably
would.
But
you
know
what?
I'm
grateful
that
I
have
a
job.
I'm
grateful
that
I'm
employable
because
at
one
point
in
my
life
I
wasn't.
At
one
point
in
my
life,
I
was
so
unemployable
that
I
was
working
for
a
temporary
agency
and
every
few
weeks
it
was
perfect
because
I
would
get
to
switch
jobs.
So
no
one
ever
got
to
know
me.
No
one
ever
got
to
know
who
I
was.
I
am.
I'm
honest
in
my
relationships
and
that's
also
very
important.
My
relationship
with
my
higher
power
has
really
changed
over
the
years.
I
went
from
being
a
someone
who
does
not
believe
in
God
at
all.
And
for
the
first
couple
years
I
used
the
rooms
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
as
my
higher
power
to
overtime
over
the
last
26
years
to
really
developing
a
relationship
with
a
higher
power
that
is
loving,
caring
and
greater
than
me.
And
I
really
believe
that
God
has
led
me
on
a
path
to
freedom
to
self,
freedom
to
freedom
with
others.
And
just
how
free
do
I
want
to
be?
I
am
my
own
worst
enemy.
Couple
years
ago
I
went
through
another
big
change
in
my
sobriety
and
I
came
to
believe
and
to
realize
that
it
had
to
do
with
the
second
step.
And
what
it
had
to
do
with
was
that
second
surrender
of
self
OK?
And
it
was
especially
upsetting
and
painful
because
I
had
to
come
to
realize
again
that
God
is
everything
or
he's
nothing.
Is
God
with
me
or
not?
Am
I
going
to
believe
in
God?
And
is
God
going
to
lead
me
down
the
right
path,
or
am
I
going
to
believe
in
myself
and
leave
myself
down
the
wrong
path?
And
I
really
had
to
take
a
look
at
that.
And
for
a
little
while,
I
did
not
believe
that
God
was
everything.
OK?
I
believe
that
there
were
still
things
that
I
could
do
myself.
Boy,
was
I
wrong.
You
know
I'm
serious
because
let's,
let's
face
it,
left
to
my
own
devices,
I
end
up
drunk.
I
truly
believe
that
if
I
could
have
gotten
sober
on
my
own,
I
would
have.
Of
course
I
would
have.
If
I
could
lead
a
healthy
way
of
life
without
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
of
course
I
would,
you
know,
but
I
am
truly
grateful
for
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
I
didn't
say
that
for
a
long
time.
And
I
actually
used
to
make
fun
of
people
who
would
say
I'm
a
grateful
recovering
alcoholic,
OK?
I
was
not,
I
was
not
a
grateful
recovering
alcoholic.
I
do
believe
that
I
have
recovered
from
this
insidious
disease
of
men
of
a
mental
obsession
and
a
physical
allergy
of
the,
of
the
body,
OK.
And
I
believe
that
I
have
recovered
from
that
through
the
12
steps
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
through
the
12
traditions
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
My
daughter
is
19,
my
oldest
daughter,
and
she
just
finished
her
first
year
of
college
down
at
William
Patterson
and
her,
and
I
have
a
very
open,
honest
relationship.
And
you
know,
she
she's
done
a
little
bit
of
drinking
and
I
have
not
been
OK
with
it.
And
but
you
know
what?
She
tells
me
she's
open
and
honest
with
me.
And
at
first
I
really
thought
that
she
was
kind
of
throwing
it
up
in
my
face
because
there
really
is
not
a
lot
that
I
can
do
just
be
a
power
of
example.
But
then
I
started
talking
to
my
friends
about
it,
my
friends
who
have
children
that
are
older
than
mine.
And,
you
know,
they
said,
they
all
said
to
me,
Kathleen,
you
really
need
to
have
gratitude
and
let
her
know
that
you
appreciate
her
opening
up
to
you
and
that
you
appreciate
the
fact
that
she
trusts
you
enough
to
to
tell
you
what
she's
doing
in
college.
And
she
she's
a
she's
a
good
girl.
You
know
what
she
is
not
like
me.
Thank
God
she
is
not
a
mini
me
and
if
she
were
that
would
be
bad.
OK,
because
I
was
a
bad
kid.
But
the
fact
that
she
is
able
to
tell
me
what's
going
on
in
her
life
without
fear
that,
you
know,
I'm
going
to,
I'm
going
to
ridicule
her
or,
you
know,
make
fun
of
her
or
anything
like
that
is
really
touching.
And,
and
that
just
says
a
lot
about
Alcoholics
Anonymous
because
you
guys
taught
me
how
to
be
like
that.
You
really
did.
You
taught
me
how
to
live
my
life
in
such
a
way
that
I
don't
have
to
have
any
judgment
against
any
people.
I
believe
that
when
I
speak,
whether
it's
in
a
meeting
like
this
or
it's
at
my
job,
that
God
is
speaking
through
me.
And
I
always,
you
know,
say
a
little
prayer,
You
know,
please
God
guide
my
thoughts,
my
words
and
my
and
my
actions.
Because
left
my
own
devices,
I
will
stick
my
foot
in
my
mouth.
I
don't
know.
I
I'm,
I,
I
really,
truly
believe
that
my
higher
power.
UMM
is
living
inside
me
and
when
I
allow
my
God
to
guide
my
life,
I'm
great.
When
I'm
living
the
third
step,
my
life
is
my
my,
my
day
goes
off
effortlessly.
That's
how
I
know
I'm
living
the
third
step.
When
I'm
not
my
life
is
is
chaos,
you
know.
So
if
you're
new
or
coming
back,
please
just
you
know
what
give
yourself
the
best
chance
of
life
of
a
happy
life
through
through
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
I
really
believe
that
those
who
come
and
and
seek
will
find
what
what
they're
looking
for.
My
my
sponsor
and
my
friends
have
always
taught
me
to
seek
out
the
recovery
that
I
crave
because
this
is
my
recovery.
This
is
my
one
time,
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
end
up
like
Cory.
I
don't
some
of
my
friends
that
helped
me
get
sober.
Terry
D.
She
died
sober.
She
was
sober
for
30
some
odd
years.
I
don't
really.
She
just
died
in
November.
One
of
the
people
that
I
actually
got
that
I
actually
drank
with
Pierce,
he
died
sober.
And
so
a
lot
of
my
heroes
are,
yes,
they're,
they're
passing
away,
but
they're
passing
away
sober.
And
that's
how
I
want
to,
that's,
that's
how
I
want
to
die.
You
know,
I
don't
want
to
die
yet.
I
still
have
a
lot
of
living
to
do.
But
you
know
what
I,
I
love
sobriety.
I
really
do.
And
I
never
really
thought
that
I
would
feel
that
way,
But
I
really,
really
love
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
I
really
love
you
all
you
guys.
I
really
do.
Even
if
I
don't
know
you,
I,
I
love
you.
I
really
do.
And
so
if
no
one
has
told
today,
I
love
you.
I
really
do.
I
really
believe
that
you
people
are
my
family.
You're
not
my
family
of
origin,
but
you're
my
recovery
family.
And
I
could
not
be
sober
without
you.
And
I
truly
believe
that.
And
I
don't
know
it's,
it's
not
quite
9:00,
but
I,
I
really
think
that's
all
I
have
to
share.
Thank
you.