Arnor K. from Oslo, Norway speaking topic of "Now that I've gone through steps...now what?" at the June NOLA workshop in New Orleans, LA
This
section
is
now
I've
been
sober
a
while,
taken
some
drunks
through
the
steps,
and
I've
read
all
the
books
with
them.
Now
what?
For
me
and
for
them.
Ardmore
Colic.
Yeah.
Does.
OK,
just
nod
your
head.
So.
So,
so
you
and
for
a
while
so
I
can
scan
the
room.
Who
here
has
has
thought?
Yeah,
I've
done
everything.
Why,
you
know,
is
this
all?
Anybody
relate
to
that
stuff?
Yeah,
yeah.
All
right,
so
worshipping
method
is,
you
know,
like
111
like
that
guy
that
we
got
into
got
got
to
speak
at
the
book
storage
facility
in
Iceland,
he
said.
I
don't
remember
anything
that
he
said
during
the
two
things
that
I
remember
from
that
talk
is
the
massive
applause.
It's
like
a
wall
of
sound.
And
the
the
the
other
thing
he
said
was
what
do
you
think
you
know?
Is
the
news
around
your
neck?
So
I
did
the
arts
and
crafts
steps
for
a
certain
way
and
I
had
the
guys
do
it
a
certain
way.
The
the
people
that
can
be
asked
to
to
to
ask
me
for
help
or
say
yes
to
my
approaches
when
I'm
when
I'm
hitting
on
them
are
usually
too
crazy
to
fill
out
a
form.
OK,
so
I
what
I
tried
what
I
did
was
I
changed
the
method.
I
told
them,
just
write
down
all
the
people
you
hate
and
let's
start
there.
And
I
would
take
one
guy
who
didn't
stay
sober
and
then
he
got
sober
again
and
didn't
stay
sober
because
he
had
a
better
idea.
I
took
him
down
to
the
lake
in
Reykjavik
where
I
would
take
guys
and
have
them
meditate
and
we
would
write
the
inventory
together.
Or
I
would
just
basically
sit
there
and,
and,
and,
and
wait
while
he
brought
inventory.
So
the
the
point
of
that
story
is
I'm
not,
I'm
not
going
to
talk
a
girl.
Let's
talk
about
inventory.
I
my,
the
method
I
use,
and
the
method
you
use
is
not
important.
There
is
a
lot
of
room
for
experimentation.
When
I
was,
when
I
was
three
years
over,
just
short
shy
of
three
years
over,
I
went
and
wrote
inventory
with
three
friends
and
I
did
that,
read
the
inventory,
read
my
first
step
to
them.
They
read
their
first
step.
To
me,
that's
experimentation.
OK.
I
have
sat
in
with
Assad
with
with
the
guy
that
assaulted
me
and
we
heard
somebody
else's
four
step
2211,
OK.
And
but
the
methods
thinking,
OK,
if
you're
honest
with
your
about
your
think,
your
train
of
thought,
you
know,
you
will
find
out
that
there
is
some
stuff
that
is
wrong.
OK,
it's,
it's
dysfunctional.
That
is,
it
works
sort
of,
but
not
as
it
should,
not
as
well
as
it
should.
It
you
know,
it's
it's
it's
it's
it's,
it's
like
a,
it's
like
a,
a
busted
chocolate
absorber.
It
works
sorta,
but
not
as
well
as
it
should.
OK.
And
it
will
affect
the
rest
of
your
life
or
the
rest
of
the
car.
So
what
this
I
would
tell
the
guy
that
that
that
I
picked
up
from
the
psych
ward
and,
and
I
I
told
him
the
belief
system
that
I
had
then.
And
this
is
2005
I
think.
I
told
them
I
know
how
to
work
these
steps.
If
a
newcomer
wants
to
know
how
to
work
these
steps,
he
can
just
ask
me.
And
that's
dysfunctional
thinking
because
he,
it
doesn't
matter
how
great
my
method
is
if
I'm
not
there
for
him
to,
to,
to
help
him
and
basically
him
getting
sober
basically
naked
and
paved
that,
that,
that
that
way
of
thinking
from
me.
This
is
about
being
left
from
for
the
newcomer.
But
I
think
that
I
have
this
method
that
I
would
try.
I
would
make
everybody
do
laser
inventory.
OK,
you,
you
take
a
sheet
of
paper,
turn
it
around,
put
it
in
landscape
mode,
write
columns
on
it
for
for
resentment
inventory.
You
would
take
another
piece
of
paper,
do
the
same
and
write
the
fear
inventory.
And
you
can
see
a
laser
pointer
through
the
inventory.
It's
powerful
stuff,
but
not
everybody
is
saying
enough
to
do
it.
Haitu
Theater
of
the
Lie.
It's
an
inventory
where
I
ride
regular
inventory
and
I
put
a
zeroth
column
with
my
rolls.
So
I'm
an
A
A
from
time
to
time,
I'm
a
boyfriend
from
time
to
time.
I
have,
I'm
I'm
I'm,
I
have
a
work
stuff.
I
have
certain
roles
and
I
write
down
who
is
resentful
at
home.
I'm
resentful
at
myself.
It
helps
a
lot
with
those
types
of
resentments.
Everybody
here
has
at
one
point
or
another
be
receptive
at
themselves,
but
they
don't
really
understand
the
causes
and
conditions
of
it.
I
wouldn't
worship
that
method
and
use
it
as
the
holy
truth
of
a,
A
and,
and
it's
you
know,
these
are
guides
to
progress.
You
know
their
guides
to
progress.
The
4th
step
is
a
guide
to
progress.
It's
not
progress.
It's
a
guide
to
progress.
You
know
it's
a
milestone.
You
know,
it's,
it's
a,
it's
a
sign
that
says
Baton
Rouge
65
miles.
You
know,
it's
not
that
important.
It's
a
guide
to
progress.
You
know,
it's,
it's
a
sign
saying,
you
know,
this
way,
but
I
would
worship
that
stuff
and
I
would
think
that
this
and
that
way
of
thinking,
worshipping
method
made
me
think
this
was
all
about
me.
And
I
had
this
job,
which
in
hindsight
wasn't
a
really
good
job.
And
maybe
and
I'm,
I
was
overqualified
for
the
job.
We
had
some
guy
come
from
a
vendor
and
I
took
him
to
state
radio
and
I
would
take
him
to
post
production
facilities
because
that
was
part
of
the
job.
And
I
would
show
him
around
the
market
and
he,
he,
he
would
say
stuff
like,
did
you
really
bring
me
to
this
country
to,
to
sell
five
seats,
5
licenses
and
another
place.
He
would
say,
you
say
you've
done
a
lot
of
damage
here
as
in
a
good
way.
And
we
go
out
eat
the
owner
of
the
company
and
me
and
then
this
dude
and
one
other
good
dude.
And
I
would,
it's
a
place
called
Argentina,
Argentina.
And
you
can
get
these
great
steaks.
And
I
went
for
the
vanilla
ice
cream
afterwards
and
I
had
my
Cuban
cigar
with
me
because,
you
know,
we
don't
have
an
embargo
with
Cuba.
And,
and
I
would
be,
I
go
outside
and
smoke
the
cigar
and,
and
I
would
think
to
myself,
what
do
I
need
a
A
for?
I
haven't
made.
I
haven't
made,
I'm
taking
this
dude
with
a
big
shot
at
this
vendor
and
I'm
I'm
there
listening
to
what
I
have
to
say.
You
know,
I
am
somebody
in
this
business
world
and
I
had
a
vision
and
the
vision
was
upon.
It's
a
white
pawn
on
a
white
square
and
it
comes
immediately
when
I
think
the
thought,
what
do
I
need
a
A
from
here?
What
what
what
good
can
a,
A
do
for
me
from
here,
which
is
the
topic
of
talk,
right?
And,
and
instead
of
handing
in
my
membership
and
just,
you
know,
go
off
on
a
tangent,
I
said,
you
know,
and
make
a
decision
based
on
this
idea
that,
you
know,
I
really
haven't
made.
I
don't
need
any
more.
I
sit
with
it
and
this
is
Friday
night.
I
think
on
Sunday
this
dude
calls
me
and
he
wants
to
get
sober
again.
He
was
the
great
hope
for
a
a
he
was
a
newcomer
of
the
year
in
Iceland
back
in
the
day
and
and
he
wants
to
get
sober
again
for
the,
I
think
the
third
time.
And
what
do
you
do?
I
have
all
the
answers,
right?
I
have
everything
and
I
meet
him
at
the
clubhouse
and,
and,
and,
and
I
asked
him
where
does
your
book
open?
And
he
opens
his
book
and
it's
chapter
4
and
we
read
chapter
4.
I
can
tell
you
what
the
experience
was,
but
I
realized
why
I
was
in
a
A
and
I
got
the
rest
of
the
vision.
It's
a
chess
table.
Pawn
on
a
white
field
zooms
out
to
a
chess
table,
to
the
whole
chess
table,
and
there's
one
move.
One
move
has
been
made.
It's
pawn
E4
and
the
answer
to
the
question.
So
if
the
assumed
inversion
is,
what
good?
What
can
AA
do?
For
me,
the
answer
comes
out
in
the
in
the
assumed
out
version.
Why
don't
you
want
to
have
this
power
in
your
life
anymore?
That
has
thus
far
made
the
change
that
it
has
and
I
have
a
lot
of
answers
for
that.
I
have
a
lot
of
answers.
I'm
selfish,
I'm
self-centered,
I'm
something,
something,
something,
but
those
are
just
words
and
definitions
in
my
mind,
he
suggest.
Words.
And
I
realized
why
I
do
this,
why
I
read
the
big
book
with
them.
He
is
more
or
less
sober
today,
that
guy.
He
is
more
or
less
sober
today,
but,
and
this
is
not
about
result.
If
you
do,
if
you're
going
to
do
a
A
for
itself,
you're
missing
out.
Just
like
in
that
pamphlet
that
you
that
you
guys
have
that
we
don't
in
the
rest
of
the
world.
As
far
as
I
know,
the
members
I
view
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
you
know,
a
A
is
whatever
you
want
to
get
out
of
it.
If
you
put
in
50,000
work
hours
into
AA,
you
will
get
50,000
work
hours
back.
If
you're
trying
to
to
to
to,
you
know,
50
hours
in
the
thousandth
gear,
sorry,
you
only
get
50
hours
back.
The
stuff
that
I
have,
I
have
done.
You
know,
you
know,
I'm
I
was
a
like
one
LED
great,
a
member
said.
I
was
a
total
failure
of
living
and
total
failure
of
dying.
And,
you
know,
I
want,
I
want
more
out
of
this
program.
And
I
realize
that
I
can
only
get
so
far
by
manipulating
you
guys
to
take
me
there.
You
know,
I
can
only
get
so
far
by
manipulating
other
members
to
take
me
there.
I
have
to
go
there
myself.
I
have
to
up,
you
know,
accept
the
responsibility.
You
know,
this
is
I'm
here
and
I'm,
I'm,
I
don't
do
this.
I
don't,
you
know,
I
don't
have.
I've
never
done
this
before.
Be
gentle
on
me.
But,
but
I'm
asking,
I'm
hearing
people
are
coming
up
to
me
and
they're
saying
the
exact
same
things
that
we
did
in
2003
and
2004
and
2005
when
we
were
getting
members
from
the
state
to
come
to
Iceland
to
speak.
The
exact
same
questions
that
the
Norwegians
in
Norway
ask
the
Americans
when
they
come
over.
The
exact
same
things.
There's
nothing
special
about
me
as
such.
Sure,
you
know,
I
have
a
few
qualities,
but
unused,
you
know,
just
ask
any
woman,
you
know,
any
straight
woman.
That
is
what
good
a
big
penis
that
she
doesn't
have
access
to
is
to
her.
It's
not,
you
know,
it's
it's
you
know,
to
give
you
an
analogy
that
that
everybody
understands.
So,
you
know,
yes,
you
have
big
muscles,
but
if,
if
you're
not
lifting
anything,
you're
just
showing
off,
you
know,
So
the
stuff
that
I
have
done
in
my
life
outside
of
a
A
has
all
been
a
result
of
a
A
every,
every
single
thing.
The
car
I
bought
in
2006
to
buy
first
car
that
didn't
have
alcoholism
at
any
point
in
any
time
of
his
life.
OK.
And,
and
the
car
I'm
getting
when
I
get
back
back
to
Norway
or
this
fall
sometime
is
the
result
of
me
taking
responsibility,
making
my
amends,
paying
my
debts,
trying
to
do
the
right
thing,
you
know,
sober
time.
I've
been
sober
14
years
and,
and
to
some
people
in
here,
that's
a
long
time.
To
some
people,
to
other
people,
it's
not.
And
but
let
me
tell
you
that
it's
amazing
what
you
can
do
in
a
a
if
you
don't
screw
up
your
life
again
and
again
and
again,
like
like
11
great
member,
one
not
she's
not
a
member,
but
she
said,
she
said
the
only
thing
that
is
worse,
only
thing
worse
than
screwing
up
your
life
is
screwing
up
your
life
again.
Great
lady.
And
and
what
you
know,
if
you
only
if
you
think
of
AA
as
something
that
the
others
are
doing
and
you
participate
in,
you're
right.
You
are
right,
you
know,
but
you're
also
not
getting
the
full
picture.
I
did
something
in
a,
A
and
that
has
become
a
resource
for
a
whole
lot
of
people,
a
whole
lot.
I've
made
a
big
change
in
alcoholism
and
there
is
there
are
no
if,
if
ifs
and
buts
about
that.
But
I
only,
I
can't
see
that
stuff.
I
can
only
see
the
guy
that
I'm
next
to.
And
if
I'm
great
and
if
I'm
awesome
and
if
I'm,
you
know,
getting
a
new
new
German
car
and
you
know,
blah,
blah,
blah,
blah,
blah,
and
not
giving
newcomer
attention,
you
know,
that
is
dying
next
to
me
or
a,
or
a,
or
a
friend
that
is
going
squiggly
in
a,
a
I'm
not
giving
everything
back
that
I
could.
You
know,
sure,
sopa
time
can
be
impressive,
but
there,
there
were
enough
old
timers
in
a,
a
in,
in
in
Iceland
that
didn't
have
anything
I
wanted,
didn't
have
anything.
It
was,
you
know,
it
was
the
newcomers
that
had
something.
My
buddy
who
was
with
me
in
the
not
getting
a
sponsor
club
at
the
group,
he
betrayed
me.
He
got
himself
a
sponsor.
I
felt
betrayed.
You
know
that,
you
know
the
sky
is
the
limit
basically
of
what
you
can
do.
You
know,
if
you're
an
alcoholic
like
me,
you
have
to
have
your
feet
planted
firmly
in
a
A
and
I
do,
but
there
is
no
limit
on
what
you
can
do.
I've
I've,
I've,
you
know,
I,
I
am
coming
from
and
not
everybody
heard
it,
but,
but
I
had
this
white
IKEA
bed
with
just
a
simple
mattress.
And
I
would
pee
in
that
bed
bed
until
and
it
would
dry
out
and
the
soft
would
turn
the
mattress
crunchy.
And,
and
you
know,
I'm
coming
from
that
place
and,
and
in
Norway,
I'm
some
sort
of
expert
in
it,
you
know,
and,
and
you
know,
and
people,
you
know,
they,
they
will
laugh
everything
off
by
saying,
you
know,
in
about
computer
stuff,
you
know,
and,
and,
and
that
is,
and
I've
certifications,
like
like
31
certifications
from
11
vendor.
And,
and
that's,
you
know,
impressive.
And
people
go,
oh,
he
knows
what
he's
talking
about.
And
that
is,
you
know,
if,
if
we,
if
we
move
that
to
into
a,
a,
you
know,
you're
getting
need
to
speak,
but
there
are
a
bunch
of
guys
here
that
could
do
it.
But
I,
I,
I,
I'm,
I'm
allowed
to
because
I'm
the
foreigner,
right?
You
know,
because
you
know,
the
guys
that
could
do
it,
they're
just
opinionated
assholes,
right?
You
know,
and,
and,
and
I
that
my
experience
is
not
the
only
correct
one.
It's
just,
you
know,
I'm
an
example,
not
the
example,
but
an
example
of
how
a
a
what
a
a
does
to
a
man's
life.
And,
and
for
some
it's,
it's
something.
And
for
others
it's
yeah.
You
know,
he's
not,
you
know,
his
sponsor
is
not
that
important
or,
or
something,
you
know,
And
I
you,
this
is
not
important.
What
we're
doing
here
is
great.
It's
fellowship
and
it's
great.
And
I
make
a
few
good
points
and
stuff,
yes,
great.
But
that
doesn't
matter
for
the
newcomer
that
isn't
there.
That's
your
job.
You're
the
locals.
You
can
affect
them.
There's
a
lot
of
alcoholism
in
this
city,
kids,
OK?
There's
a
lot
of
alcoholism.
There
must
be
people
that
want
to
start
drinking,
OK?
They
should
be
easy
to
find
here.
OK.
And
I
think
that's
the
the
real,
you
know,
that's
the
litmus
test
of,
of
how
good
a
program
you're
working.
What
are
you
giving
away?
And
so
when
when
a
a
becomes
boring,
right,
there
are
different,
there
are
different
things
you
can
do.
You
can
do
exercises.
You
can
do
the
Bill
Wilson
exercise.
You
can
do
the
belief
faith
Bill
Wilson
exercises
is
from
from
from
Bill
story.
You
take
a
marker
and
you
mark
everything
that
you
that
you're
where
you're
like
bill.
And
then
you
take
another
colored
marker
and
you
mark
everything
that
you
haven't
done
in
recovery.
And
those
are
the
things
that
are
going
to
kill
you.
Pastor
Bill
Wilson
exercise
you
can
do
the
belief
faith.
You
take
the
words
belief
in
faith
and
4th,
4th
chapter
and
you
can
see.
And
just
by
doing
it,
yeah,
sure
you
can.
You
can
see
the
you
know,
right
now
what
I'm
saying
that
yeah,
there's
a
difference
between
belief
and
faith.
But
you
have
to
read
the
text
to
see
where
he
uses
belief
and
where
he
uses
faith,
you
know?
And
that's
something
you
can
do
in
the
English
book,
but
you
can't
do
it
in
the
Islamic
book.
It's
the
same
word,
okay?
You
know
that
is
stuff
that
will
change
your
perspective.
OK,
you
can
you
that's
there
are
and
then
you
know,
if
inventory
is
is
getting
boring,
do
a
laser.
Do
do
do
a
theater
of
the
lie,
especially
guys
breaking
up
with
girls
or
or
or
especially
the
guys
that
broke
up
with
girls
they
never
dated
but
or
or
where
the
girl
doesn't
know
that
they
were
dating.
They
they,
they
can
get
a
lot
out
of
out
of
out
of
theater
of
the
light.
And
for
the
really
sick
Alzheimer's,
there
was
17
area
inventory,
you
know,
because
if
I
knew
how
fucked
up
I
was
when
I
came
in
here,
just
the
inventory
I
did
the
fall
of
2013
and
it
was
sex
inventory.
It
was
a
sex
ideal
inventory.
I
did
that
in
Oslo
because
I
had
reached
the
end
of
my
rope
with.
We
enter
the
rope
with
with
with
something
that
affected
me
profoundly.
Take
another
look.
But
the
point
isn't
fixing
fixing
my
life.
It
makes
makes
it
easier
for
me
to
do.
Having
done
that
inventory,
it
makes
me,
it
makes
it
easier
for
me
to
talk
to
a
newcomer
with
a
certain
set
of
problems.
And
that
is,
I
think,
you
know,
that's,
that's
the
litmus
test,
that's
the
acid
test.
Do
newcomers,
however
long
they've
been
sober
and,
and,
and
maybe
maybe
I
should
should
end
with
with
reading
a
little
bit,
you
know,
sorry
for
my
for
my
accent.
The
tremendous
fact
for
every
one
of
us
is
that
we
have
discovered
the
common
solution.
We
have
a
way
out
on
which
we
can
absolutely
agree
and
upon
which
we
can
join
in
broadly
and
harmonious
action.
This
is
the
great
news
this
book
carries
to
those
who
suffer
from
alcoholism,
an
illness
of
the
sort.
And
Please
note
that
it
doesn't
say
disease.
That's
one
exercise.
Find
the
word
disease
in
the
big
book.
OK,
an
illness
of
the
sort,
and
we
have
come
to
believe
it.
An
illness
involves
those
about
us
in
a
way
no
other
human
sickness
can.
If
a
person
has
cancer,
all
are
sorry
for
him
and
no
one
is
angry
or
hurt.
But
not
so
with
the
alcoholic
illness.
For
with
it
becomes
an
annihilation
of
all
the
things
worthwhile
in
life.
It
engulfs
all
whose
lives
touch
the
sufferers.
It
brings
misunderstanding,
fierce
resentment,
financial
insecurity,
disgusted
friends
and
employers,
walked
lives
of
blameless
children,
sad
wives
and
parents.
Anyone
can
increase
the
list.
Yeah,
and
the
And
the
solution
is
just
stop
drinking,
right?
We
hope
this
volume
will
inform
and
comfort
those
who
are
or
who
may
be
affected.
There
are
many
highly
competent
psychiatrists
who
have
dealt
with
us
have
found
it
sometimes
impossible
to
persuade
an
alcoholic
to
discuss
his
situation
without
reserve.
Strangely
enough,
wives,
parents
and
intimate
friends
usually
find
us
even
more
unapproachable
than
do
the
psychiatrist
and
the
doctor.
But
the
X
problem
drinker
was
found.
This
solution
was
properly
armed
with
facts
about
himself,
Can
generally
win
the
entire
confidence
of
another
alcoholic
in
a
few
hours.
Until
such
an
understanding
is
reached,
little
or
nothing
can
be
accomplished.
That
a
man
who
is
making
the
approach
has
had
the
same
difficulty
that
he
is
obviously
knows.
That
he
obviously
knows
what
he
is
talking
about.
That
his
whole
deportment
shouts
at
the
new
prospect
That
he
is
a
man
with
a
real
answer.
That
he
has
no
attitude
of
holier
than
thou,
nothing
whatever
except
the
sincere
desire
to
be
helpful.
That
there
are
no
fees
pay,
no
access
to
grant,
no
people
to
please,
no
lectures
to
be
endured.
These
are
the
conditions
we
have
found
most
effective.
After
such
an
approach,
many
take
off
their
beds
and
walk
again.
It's
right
there
in
a
big
book.
I
don't
know
how
often
you
guys
read
this,
but
you
know,
I
love
this.
I'm
here
because
somebody
reached
out
his
hand.
He's
not
my
sponsor.
He
has
helped
me
a
lot.
He
has
never
had
the
office
of
sponsor,
but
he
has
helped
me
a
lot.
And
he's
probably
the
single
person,
the
person
who
was
single
most
responsible
for
me
standing
here
today,
really.
And
we
play
this
role
in
each
other's
life,
each
other's
lives
with
our
good
and
bad
examples.
You
know,
you
know
those
in
here
who
are
unwilling
to
make
amends
because
of
some,
some
stuff.
They
can
be
an
example
of
how
much
what
life's
life
looks
like
with
unmade
amends,
or
they
can
be
an
example
of
of
a
lost
opportunity
because
they
killed
themselves.
We,
the
others
are
watching
you.
You
know,
we
are
all
watching
each
other.
There
is
no
lineage,
there
is
no
line.
If
you
only
listen
to
your
sponsor,
you're
missing
out
on
a
lot
of
experience.
A
lot,
you
know,
and,
and
basically,
you
know,
show
others
that,
you
know,
don't
fall
fall
into
the
into
the
you
know
what
for
me
and
for
them,
the
last
point
for
me
and
for
them,
you
know,
show
them
that
it's
OK
that
you
can
do
stuff
in
life
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
But
you
know,
you
can't
really,
you
know,
I
can't
really
shake
the
idea
that
everything
I
do
at
work
or
whatever,
whatever
has
everything
to
do
with
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
you
know,
my,
my,
my,
my
amends
that
I
have
to
be
keep
current
on
are
basically
customers
that
I
need
to
to
help.
You
know,
that's,
you
know,
my
life
is
simple,
but
so
show
them
these
are
tools
that
can
be
used
anywhere,
not
just
in
a
meeting.
You
know,
if
a
A
is
just
a
meeting
for
you,
you're
missing
out.
You're
selling
yourself
short
real
shot,
and
it's
all
a
A
even
though
it's
not
a
a
you
know
what
do
you
want
a
A
to
be
members?
I
view,
you
know,
read
that
it's
short.
You
know,
don't
be
a
guest
in
a
a
participate.
If
you
have
fucked
up
your
life,
you're
supremely
qualified
to
help
others.
It's
a
thing
that
you
don't
want
to
miss
out
on,
you
know,
and
they
can
be
the
boss
at
work
and
it
can
be
anybody.
I
don't
know.
I,
I
don't
know.
But
there,
there
are,
you
know,
you
know,
it's,
it's
really
easy.
It's
real
great
that
I
paid
the
taxman
back.
It
simplifies
my
life
a
lot
too.
Being
debt
free
is
awesome.
I
just
want
to
tell
you
it's
it's
fucking
awesome.
And
I
did
that
as
an
immense,
really
simple.
I
did
that
as
an
immense
and
you
know,
not
rich
or
not
anything,
you
know
and
you
know
you
can,
but
it's
you
know,
but
just
you
know,
if
you
can
dream
it,
you
can
do
it.
Don't
let
somebody
tell
you
that
you're
not
sober
long
enough,
you
know,
don't
I?
The
biggest
change
that
I
have
inflicted
on
a
A
is
something
that
I
did
with
what,
a
little
over
a
year
so
far.
You
know,
it's
that
that
fucking
website.
But
I
try
not
to
mention
and
I
don't
think
of
it,
you
know,
I
don't
think
of
it.
I
want
to
talk
to
a
newcomer.
I
don't
think
of
it.
It's
just,
it's
just
there.
And
once
in
a
while
I
get
a
bad
conscience
and
I
need
to
do
something
with
it.
And,
and,
and
and,
and
the
guys
are
are,
you
know,
you
know,
chew
me
out
every
every
once
in
a
while.
And,
and
you
know,
you
need
to
do
something
and
something
and
something.
And
some
of
them
have
fears
and
some
of
them
don't.
Most
of
them
are
just
OK
and,
and
it
has
changed
AA
to
a
degree
and
and
that's,
that's
what
it
is.
But
it's
not
me,
you
know,
it's
not
me
going
to
the
download
and
download.
I
download
the
download.
I
would
sit
and
watch
that
screen
and
refresh
the
status,
how
many
downloads
that
I've
had
and,
and,
and
I
thought
I
could
get
something
out
of
it,
but
really
what
I
did
needed
to
do
was
make
amends.
You
know,
Yes,
you're
counting
sponsors.
This
is,
it's
not
worth
anything,
you
know,
I'd
rather
be
able
to
sit
down
and,
and,
and
really
explain
spirit,
the
spiritual
way
of
living
that
book
outlines
and
translate
that,
you
know,
from
Icelandic
to
Icelandic,
you
know,
and
I
get
the
impression
that
you
guys
need
to
translate
it
from
English
to
English.
I'd
rather
do
that
than
than,
than
anything
else.
Go
to
a
movie
or
go
to
a
concert.
Don't
do
anything.
It's
because
it
gives
so
much.
It's
so
much
and,
and,
and,
and
the,
the
feeling
that
I
have
that
I
when,
when
I
got
in
there
and,
and,
and,
you
know,
when
I
sat
down
with
him
that
I'm
let's
do
this
on
yet
another
idiot
that
really
wanted
me,
you
know,
and,
and
my
life
is
all
messy.
I
need
to
do
this
and
this
and
this,
you
know,
I
need
to,
you
know,
go
to
the
dry
cleaners.
And
while
I'm
wasting
my
time
here
on
this
new
comment,
La
La
La
La
and
and
up,
and
I
don't
have
any
problems
anymore.
It
puts
shit
into
context.
You
know,
if
I'm
only
in
my
mind,
I'm
only
in
my
mind.
You
know,
action
is
the
great
equalizer.
It
shows,
you
know,
if
you
want
to
see
what
you
believe,
look
at
your
actions.
If
you,
if
you
believe,
you
know,
steps
are
great,
but
you
only
make
meetings,
you
know,
you
don't
really
believe
that,
you
know,
I
don't,
you
know,
now
I've
been
sober
a
while,
taking
some
drugs
through
the
steps.
I
found
a
bunch
of
shit.
I
found
the
fucking
duck,
you
know,
I
forgot
about
duck,
you
know,
and,
and,
and
you
know,
there's
stuff
in
the
past,
you
know,
there's,
there
are
guys
that
have
that
have,
have
done
horrible
things.
And,
and
there
was
a
military,
American
military
guy
who
was
in
Iceland
and,
and,
and
once
he,
you
know,
we
did
did
a
bit
of
reading
the
big
book
and
he
did
some
step
work
and
and
that
basically
was
like
a
peeling
a
banana
and
and
his
PTSD
came
out.
You
know,
I
have
no
nothing
to,
you
know,
and
when
he
left
the
country.
But
it's,
you
know,
you
know,
we,
we,
we
are
this,
you
know,
you
know,
the
spearheads
of
God's
ever
advancing
creation.
That's
the
stuff
that
we
should
be
doing
and
that
we
can
do
in
the
in
the
rooms
and
we
can
do
that
outside
of
the
rooms.
Absolutely.
You
know,
and
yeah,
let
me
let
me
running
close
with
with
one
thing.
So
it's
in
the
back,
it's
page,
it's
paid
263.
We
know
of
an
A
member
who
was
living
in
a
large
community.
He
had
lived
there
but
a
few
weeks
when
he
found
that
he
that
the
place
probably
contained
more
Alcoholics
per
square
mile
than
any
city
in
the
country.
This
was
only
a
few
days
ago.
At
this
riding
1939.
The
authorities
were
much
concerned.
He
got
in
touch
with
a
prominent
psychiatrist
who
had
undertaken
certain
responsibilities
for
the
mental
health
of
the
community.
The
doctor
proved
to
be
an
able
and
exceedingly
anxious
to
be
able
and
exceedingly
anxious
to
adopt
any
workable
method
of
handling
this
situation.
So
he
inquired,
what
did
her
friend
have
on
the
ball?
Our
friend
proceeded
to
tell
him,
and
with
such
good
effect
that
the
doctor
agreed
to
test
among
his
patients
to
to
attest
among
his
patients
and
certain
other
Alcoholics
from
a
clinic
which
he
attends.
Arrangements
were
also
made
with
the
chief
psychiatrist
of
a
large
public
hospital
to
select
still
others
from
a
stream
of
from
the
stream
of
misery
which
flows
through
that
institution.
So
our
fellow
worker
will
soon
have
friends
galore.
Some
of
them
may
sink,
and
perhaps
never,
but
if
our
experience
is
a
criterion,
more
than
half
of
those
approached
will
become
fellows
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
When
a
few
men
in
the
city
have
found
themselves
and
have
discovered
the
joy
of
helping
others
to
face
life
again,
there
will
be
no
stopping
until
everyone
in
that
town
has
had
his
opportunity
to
recover.
If
he
can
and
will
still,
you
may
say,
but
I
will
not
have
the
benefit
of
contact
with
you
who
write
this
book.
Or
yeah,
but
I've
only
been
sober
one
year
or
two
months
or
one
week
or
whatever.
I
have
a
holy
excuse.
We
cannot
be
sure.
God
will
determine
that.
So
you
must
remember
that
your
real
reliance
is
always
upon
Him.
He
will
show
you
how
to
create
the
fellowship
you
crave.
Our
book
is
meant
to
be
suggestive.
Only
about
what?
Doctor
Bob
says
that
if
you
have
pride
and
stuff
that
blocks
you
away
from
accepting
what
this
book
has
to
offer,
you
know
that's
your
thing.
But
he
is
sure
that
he
has
a
solution
for
you.
The
book
is
meant
to
be
suggestive
only
on
how
to
to
create
a
fellowship.
We
realize
we
know
only
a
little
period
about
what
how
to
create
a
fellowship.
God
will
constantly
disclose
more
to
you
and
to
us.
Ask
Him
in
your
morning
meditation
what
you
can
do
each
day
for
the
man
who
is
still
sick.
The
answers
will
come
if
your
own
house
is
in
order.
That's
why
we
make
amends.
But
obviously
you
cannot
transmit
something
you
haven't
got.
Don't
try.
Yeah,
yeah.
Please
do
your
best
with
your
immense
before
you
start
telling
people
what
to
do
with
their
lives,
OK?
See
to
that
your
your
relationship
with
him
is
bright
and
not
good.
It's
bright
and
great
events
will
come
to
pass
for
you
and
countless
others.
This
is
the
great
fact
for
us.
Abandoning
yourself
to
God.
As
you
understand
God,
admit
your
faults
to
Him
and
to
your
fellows,
clear
away
the
records
of
the
past,
give
freely
of
what
you
find,
and
join
us.
We
shall
be
with
you
on
the
fellowship
of
the
Spirit,
and
you
will
surely
meet
some
of
us
as
you
treads
the
road
of
happy
destiny.
May
God
bless
you
and
keep
you
until
then.
Really
simple
guys.
Really,
really
really
simple
SO
questions.
After
studying,
the
question
is
what
are
my
thoughts
on
on
after
doing
the
12
steps,
starting
the
12
steps
and
the
12
traditions,
the
12:00
and
12:00
traditions,
traditions
and
the
concept.
I
think
it's
great.
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
awesome.
I've
had
some
great
experiences
in
a,
in
a
12
and
12/12/12
and
12
in
a
in
a
traditions
and
concerts
meeting
that
we
started.
Absolutely.
But
if
you're
doing
that
instead
of
working
with
a
newcomer,
I
think
you're
missing
out.
Basically,
you
can't
eat
instead
of
sleeping,
and
you
can't
sleep
instead
of
eating.
You
know,
it's
the
blood
of
a,
a
is,
you
know,
is
newcomers
and,
and,
and
you
know,
you
and
yes,
you
can
get
a
lot
of
intellectual
stuff
out
of
that.
And
I've
done
that.
I've
done
intellectual
stuff.
You
know,
but
when
you
can
explain
the
the
traditions
to
a
newcomer,
that's
awesome.
You
know,
how
it
affects
his
life
and
his
recovery,
that's
awesome
stuff.
You
know,
just
like
the
simple
7th
petition
in,
in
your
personal
life,
you
know,
being
self
self
reliant
financially,
that's
awesome
stuff.
And,
and
yes,
yes,
absolutely
study.
It's,
it's
good.
You
can
tell
yourself
that.
Like,
you
know,
question
is
what
keeps
me
going
after
years
of
sobriety?
What
what
keeps
me
going
is
is
you
know
somebody,
you
know,
this
is
thing
in
the
beginning.
We
go
to
meetings
because
we
have
to.
Then
we
go
because
we
want
to,
and
then
we
go
because
it's
8:00.
That's
a
really
simple
way
of
saying
it.
It's
however,
not
everything
doesn't
encompass
everything
that
drives
me.
What
drives
me
is,
is
I'll
go
around
and
terrorize
newcomers.
That's,
I
believe
you
have
some
terrorists
who
terrorists
newcomers
here.
And
that's
our
service,
you
know,
and
not
to,
you
know,
beat
them
down.
But,
you
know,
for
one
newcomer,
the
only
thing
you
can
do
for
him
is
be
nice
to
him.
And
for
another
newcomer,
the
only
thing
you
can
do
for
him
is
be
nasty
to
him.
And,
you
know,
there
is
no
set
proofs.
And,
and,
and
what
I
get
is
I'm
interested
in,
in,
in
like,
I
go
to
the
Wednesday
meeting
because
that's
the
first
meeting
I
came
to
after
I
moved
to
Oslo.
I
go
to
the
Tuesday
night
meeting
because
it's
a
men's
tag.
I
go
to
the
Atlantic
meeting
because
I'm
Icelandic.
I
go
to
the
Friday
meeting
because
I,
you
know,
I
need
to
be
a
good
example
for
Norwegians
and
show
them
how
a
real
meeting
is
with
a
podium
and
stuff,
you
know,
you
know,
it's,
it's
different
stuff.
And,
and
along
the
way
I
find
guys
to
talk
to,
you
know,
and
sometimes
I
never
see
them
again.
And,
and,
but
I
hear,
I
heard
one
thing.
I,
I've
made
an
immense
once
and
I
was
asked
to
go
to,
to
a
shrink.
I
told
to
shrink
my
story.
He
told
me
that
that
violence
is
of
all
types,
four
types
of
violence.
And
they're
all
the
same
in
the
end,
not
only
receiving
end
of
violence,
but
but
on
the
action
end
of
violence.
I
told
that
story
to
some
guy,
some
random
guy
that
came
to
a
meeting
and
he's
not
an
alcoholic,
but
his
friend
is,
He's
an
AIM
member.
And
he
told
me
that
that
just
just
giving
the
longer
version
of
the
story
really
changed
his
life.
And,
and
that's
awesome.
I
did
that
just
because
I,
I,
I,
I
went
to
a
meeting
and
I,
yeah,
something
before
the
meeting
to
somebody
that
was
there
at
random.
And
it's
it's,
it's
a
little
piece
of,
of
who
I
am.
I've
the
only
thing
I
wanted
out
of
a
is
when
I
came
was
being
some
something,
some
somebody
people
could
point
at
and
say
that
guy
is
OK.
That's
only
thing
I
wanted
if
that's
the
only
thing
I
got.
Any
questions
more?
I
saw
a
hand
here
somewhere.
Is
there
anything
else
that
you
do?
The
question
is,
is
there
anything
I
do
with
sponsors
after
they've
been
sober
for
a
while?
I've
done
stuff.
I've
shown,
I've
showed
them
how
to
meditate.
I've
done
stuff.
I
don't
do
that
anymore.
I
am
not
a
sponsor.
I
don't
sponsor
guys.
I
will
answer
any
question
related
to
AAI
will
show
them,
but
I
don't
have
a
recipe
for
anybody
because
that
recipe
is
basically,
you
know,
it's
gumbo,
you
know,
it's
different
stuff,
but
it's
all
the
same.
It's
no,
I
don't
do
anything
really.
I
talk
to
them
a
lot.
We,
we
talk,
we
meet
at
meetings,
we,
we
talk
on
the
phone.
I,
you
know,
and
we
will.
And
what
happens?
What
happens?
That's
that's
my
method.
Some
guys
do
the
12
and
12,
you
know,
after
the,
after
the
big
book
and
stuff,
and
that's
fine.
I
don't
know
how
to,
it's
never
made
any
sense
to
me.
If
you
do
that,
hey,
that's
great.
You
know
it's,
it's
awesome.
You
know,
it's
no,
but
there
are,
there
are.
We'll
do
theater
of
the
lie
when
they
go,
when
they
go
nuts
and
you
know,
I'll
do
some
stuff,
but
it's
all,
you
know,
ad
hoc
there.
There's
no
method
or
rule.
I
don't.
I
try
not
to
get
hooked
up
hooked
on
method.
More
questions?
Yes,
yeah.
Everywhere.