The topic of Step 3 at the Fellowship of the Spirit convention in Copper Mountain, CO

Hello everyone, my name is Tony Blankenship and I'm an alcoholic.
My my sobriety date is November 11th of 1998. My Home group is called an AA group. We meet in Santa Fe, NM on Monday night at 7:00 at the Salvation Army where sometimes it still smells like an alcoholic. You know it's like that odd smell of like pine Sol and leftover vodka. It's awesome and sometimes people will like share and I mean those are like the best shares. The guys that are drunk still, and I think it's the safest place to come is Alcoholics Anonymous if
drinking. So I did that a lot.
So I'm supposed to talk about it's funny, Jeff asked me to speak. So go talk to him. Anyway, I he asked me outside yesterday. He said he goes, well, you, you have a lot of good experience with the third step, right? I'm like, I've done it like, I don't know what does that mean? I've had a lot of good experience.
I
it's interesting. I I don't know why I thought of this when I woke up this morning and I was thinking right away
about what I was going to say. And I told Erica I wanted to be the last person to share because I wanted to look like the most spiritual person on the panel. I wish I was kidding. Like I'm not like that stuff goes through my mind. I like, I really want to look spiritual for people. I don't want to actually do anything spiritual, but I want to look spiritual
and and the interesting thing is like, so this, this third step says we made a decision to turn our own lives over the care of God as we understood him. And like, why would I want to do that?
Like what's what's the point? Like why would I even want to do that? And,
and what does that mean? Like what does that mean? And there's a, there's a part in the doctor's opinion. And, and I, I'll talk to you later about my opinion about the doctor's opinion, but he wasn't an alcoholic,
but he says something in there that was really interesting about something else, about a guy who's a person who's a psychopath, right? And I looked up that word and it says someone who has the inability to learn from experience.
And below that it says, you know, he makes many resolutions, but never a decision. And that's my experience with Step 3 over and over and over and over again. I'll make a resolution that OK, now, right now, all right, I'm going to do this, this. And it's like somebody shared this the other day about making, you know, Barton, Tom said that, you know, I'm going to make a bargain with God. So I'll make a resolution that I'm going to I'm going to change
and I'm going to do this, but I don't know that I don't have the power to do it. I don't know it. I don't know it until I get beaten down one more time, yet one more time again by myself will that I don't even think I have. I'm doing good. I prayed, I meditated today. I'm good. Like I'm, I'm running through life. I'm trying not to hurt people. And you know, and all throughout my day I'm trying to arrange things to suit me so I feel comfortable and I feel safe
and I don't even know it. I don't even know it. I'm asleep to it. It says somewhere in there and I don't whatever. Something about like we had to be convinced that any life on self will could hardly be a success. But what I'm not, I'm still not. I've been sober almost 15 years and I'm not convinced because I still do it all the time, all the time. I try to arrange it so it's going to make me comfortable and make me OK. Even meetings, your go to meetings, Alcoholics Anonymous and they don't share right?
Like, you know,
and you know who they are, You know, and we come and we come here and we're like, they don't do it right. We do it right. Like, OK,
whatever. I mean, and I get that. I mean, I still think that way sometimes, but I don't know where that where that came from.
I did pray.
One of the most important things, I think
every time I do a third step, I call my sponsor and he lives in Denver and there's a lot of times we're doing step work. It's on the phone
and we'll do this third set prayer together. And I'm, I don't know, I've never been a person who done a third step prayer and had this amazing bright light experience. I just has never been my experience. There's a little paragraph after the prayer, though. It says something to the effect of, you know, your own language, right? Your own, you know, it says. The wording was of course, quite optional.
That's what it says. And so every time I do it, and every time I do it with someone else,
I think it's important that I go out by myself somewhere where I feel safe and feel good. And, you know, for me, a lot of times that's in the woods because I'm a big, I'm a mountain biker. So I like being out and doing stuff like that. And I just have a talk like it says, expressing these things that we something like that, you know, and I just tell God, OK, I don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to live this way.
And and you know what? And when I say it, I mean it. I do.
I mean it. And I think that's really important.
Umm,
there's another thing that goes on. It says that you know what I think, and I share this before yesterday was that I could have all the, you know, I got great philosophies. I asked me, I'll tell you they're great. I got all kinds of
principles that I want to live by and actions that I don't want to do. I got all kinds of just great. And just ask me, I'll tell you they're great. I can't do them. And though it says, it says, though our decision was a vital and crucial step, it's vital. It's life giving, right? That's vital, crucial. Like I have to make this decision. And it's not something that's made lightly. I think where they used to say that a, a right, like, well, there's three frogs and they're sitting on a log. You guys remember that
and one of them makes a decision how many frogs are left? I don't know why I turned into a Southerner when I told that joke.
Sounds like a joke you tell in the South. How many frogs are left? Well, three. That's not true because if I make a decision to jump, I got to jump. I got to jump. I believe three is an action step. It's not a it's not a mental step. It's like I had a, that word decision comes from a word with Latin, which literally means to cut. So I have to what am I cutting out of my life? What am I willing to let go to make this decision? What am I willing to go with? And if I'm not following up like right away
inventory, that decision doesn't mean anything because I did lots of every time I went to jail, I made a decision every time I got baptized a couple of times. Like I meant that like I was bawling. I mean, I had the Spirit just trying. I felt it in my heart. And I walked out of that church and was like, I went and got something to drink
because I didn't want to let go of something. I didn't want to do that if I only been talking 7 minutes. That is so awesome. I love that. I'm usually pretty long winded. That's true. That's true.
I'm going to read this. So this is the how and why of it. First of all, we had to quit playing God. It didn't work.
I still don't believe it
because I still do it. Not all the time, not all day, not 24 hours, but in the places that I want to feel power, I do it. I do it. I'll tell you all about it
next. We decided
that hereafter in this drama of life, God was going to be our director.
He is the principal. We are as agents. That's one who does business for another.
So it's not that
God does give us power. God gives us power. I have God-given power. It is my responsibility to go be an agent for God. I may be the only example of a spiritual life someone gets to see, and I can either be a good example or a bad one. That's it. And a lot of times I'm a bad one. I wish I wasn't.
He is the father, we are his children. Most good ideas are simple. In this concept was the keystone of the new and triumphant arch through which we passed through freedom. If you had a better speaker, they could tell you all about all the arch and the cornerstone and the keystone and I don't care.
I wish I did. I'm just don't. These are the third set promises, in case you were wondering. There are promises in each step. I believe that
when we sincerely took such a position, all sorts of remarkable things followed. We had a new employer
and I don't believe it.
I believe the Country Club where I work is my employer that paychecks my employer, that attention I get from you or from her, from my boss or from wherever. You're my employer. You're what? You're what makes me OK, right? And every time you say, Tony, you're OK and I go, no, I'm not. I don't believe it. I don't believe it.
And it's like my sponsor said, well, why don't you go to God for that? And I'm like I am.
No, you're not
being all powerful. He provided what we needed. If we kept close to him and performed his work well established on such such a footing, we became less and less interested in ourselves. I'm still sort of waiting for that to happen.
Our little plans and designs, More and more, we became interested in seeing what we could contribute to life as we felt new power flow in. And that has happened to me. And we have joined Peace of Mind. Yeah.
I lost my place. Jeff. Thanks. No, we, as we discovered we could face life successfully, we became conscious of his presence. That has happened to me. And we began to lose our fear of today, tomorrow or the hereafter. We were reborn. Thank you.
All right. Our next panelist will be Molina, A from a Really Works Group and Aurora, Co.
Hi, I'm Malia,
a grateful member of Al Anon and and and I very much am afraid of public speaking.
I
I've already started crying today so we're going to see how this works. But when I was asked to speak, I was a little bit in shock. And I just feel incredibly humbled that anyone would want to know what I thought
or or knew about this book. Because most of everything that I know about this book I learned here at this conference. And
so we'll see what we can do as far as adding to this conversation. I,
you know, can tell you how I've worked this step
hand on.
See what happens? Right
when I came into this program, I was
I was broken and I was feral and
I was suicidal. I was homicidal. I was behaving very badly and and and the possibility of me dying was becoming really quite apparent.
I
I hear a lot of times in in al Anon meetings that were people pleasers and I don't I just recently in part studying this step and I just suddenly found it somewhere is I don't believe I'm a people pleaser. I am a I am an approval sucker. I,
I might be nice to you, but it's not because I like you and
it is, it is because I am selfish and self seeking.
And
I found that before I got here, you know, I, you know, I would give my power or, or instead of looking for, for God and asking for his help, I would rely on people a lot of the time. A lot of the time it was my alcoholic or addict. Sometimes it was other people in my life. And the first time I worked this up with my sponsor, I did it very gingerly. You know, I heard
I can't, they say he can and, and maybe I should let him. And, and that's how I did it. I'm like, I can't. All of these thousands of people
say he can and I will give him this one little tiny piece at a time. I use the God box a lot and you know, and that was enough to get started. My sponsor actually had me do a couple of inventories so that I could go back again to the third step and, and get a better footing. I I inventoried my father and I inventoried myself and then I inventoried God to find out what my
my part was in in my relationship with a higher power.
And I found out that I was selfish than self seeking,
that I didn't trust
that that he cared for me and was looking out for me despite the evidence. And
yeah, and I needed to distinguish between what,
you know, what, what people say about God, what churches say about God, you know, different faiths say about God and what actually was happening in my life, the fact that I was protected
many times, even when I didn't believe that he was there for me. And so, you know, I came back to the third step and tried again. And I'll give a little bit more this time. And and that got a little bit better
as I read. I read this chapter now
this, this section on the third step over and over again in preparation for this because I was just super nervous. And I, I find it's funny because it's like it comes to the conclusion that we're selfish and self-centered, that that that we are the root of our own troubles and we apparently are supposed to figure this out before doing the inventory. And I'm like, wow, I didn't notice that.
A lot of things in this book I sometimes think are backwards. But I mean, I guess if I didn't notice it, it didn't. It wasn't that important at the time.
And
but I did have to realize that my life was was spinning out of control and I was going to die
before I decided, you know, could make the decision to turn my will in my lives over the care of God. I,
Yeah,
I, I, I proceeded through the steps.
I, I know that a lot of people, and I certainly did this for a period of time. You know, they, we do that 123 waltz. And today I honestly believe that if, you know, if I'm doing a 123 waltz, that I haven't actually taken the third stop because proof of the third step is taking a fourth step and proceeding with the rest of the stops. You know that it's not just making a decision, it's making a decision and following through with that. And
you know, I'd like to say,
you know, I'll kid about it is that, you know, making a decision is not me going and joining an unnery. And I have a friend who like the worst place they can imagine being sent to if, if they're forced to do something because of God's will, is that all they, you know, they're just like, please, God, don't send me to Africa. And,
and it's not that either. It's, it's bringing, you know, my, my will and my lives, you know, in line with God that I want what he wants. I I want what he wants for me.
You know, it might involve joining a nunnery. I don't know.
That might happen still,
but I found out like I,
I was already into my fifth step when I, when I, when I flunked my third step. And, and I was tremendously grateful that, you know, that we're not being graded and that, you know, if I'm screwing these up, then I get to go back and start over to the one before it. And I found that I had been relying on my some of my friends instead of my God.
And just like I had done with the alcoholic, you know,
and so I had to, you know, go back and make that decision again,
which isn't such a bad thing, really. Well,
today I understand that my higher power once, once great and wonderful things for me. And if I can continue to remind myself of all of the good things that he's given me, you know, I'm going to be you know, I won't be all upset about like, but I don't want to because I've already been given so many things that I could not have possibly imagined.
I
yeah, everything about the way this is written I think is backwards. But where it tells me that I should take this spiritual step with someone who's understanding after I just said the prayer. And
but that's OK. I'm I'm,
you know, if it weren't written like this, we wouldn't spend so much time studying it. I'm sure we would have gone. Oh, I already read that. So
one of the things that last year, last year, you might have seen me here, my hair was kind of messed up, as it usually is, and and I spent a lot of time crying. I was
very distraught over the things that happened at the theater in Aurora,
and I came
to this conference and found myself back on Step 2.
So I find that it's somehow appropriate that this weekend I'm here on Step 3.
And.
You know, if
which I can find
there's a power greater than myself that's going to restore me to sanity, then what else am I going to do but give my life and my will over to Him?
Really not that scary. Before I got here, I didn't have a life. I can't go back to to that. I was going to die and
you know, I can go back to that and I'll die. And
if I
and I need to remind myself of that frequently that
this book was also written for me,
believe it says so on page 18. And
and the only and alcohol is but a symptom. And when I wake up in the morning, my first instinct is to be a horrible human being. And and today, you know, I have to pray to get over that. And that's something I learned here last year, and it works. So
it's so important to do this work. If you haven't done it already, I would encourage you to do that. So thank you very much.
All right. Our next panelist will be Meg C from Green Light Tuesday in Denver, Co.
I'm Meg. I'm an alcoholic. Green Light is my Home group. We meet in Denver on Tuesday at 7:30 at between 13th and 14th on Washington Street, and we even meet at Panera before because we believe in fellowship. And suddenly lightheaded. There's not enough air up here.
I have experience with the third step and I have experience with it through a sponsor and I have experience feeling absolutely empty
inside when I was drinking.
I was raised, I was raised a Catholic and and I was raised that men were, you know, in power. And I, I remember being in charge and being like, I want to, I want to be a priest and they're like, but you can, I was like, what, why, why can't I like, what is my role? And like, so I always feel like I've had some some pull to some sort of spirituality
and and I was anxious. I was so anxious as a child and when I discovered alcohol and how calming
it was and how awesome I could feel by putting alcohol in me, it ate a hole in me. And, and the person that wanted to be a priest no longer was there. And the person that was trying to be good and you know, do the Girl Scout thing and go into and see old people in in nursing homes just disappeared. And I was, I was self-centered and Southwell Ron Ryan, I the way that I drank, you didn't ever want to be around me. And people asked me, they're like, why don't you drink? Because they know the person that I am now. And I'm like,
you don't want to know that girl. That girl is going to, you know, steal your wallet, help you look for it, steal your boyfriend, you know, you know, drown your sorrows with you, out drink you and continue on my merry way without even thinking about it. And there's a spider on the table. And now all I can think is that the spider is all over my body. I'm sorry. It's like I just itch. But I couldn't kill it because I didn't want to make it rain for you guys. And
I still have a squirrel brain. Like I still have the squirrel brain that gets so distracted when I'm sober.
And, and so when I, when I got sober, I had the sponsor that was like, you're going to greet. And I was like, no, I'm not. And she's like, you say yes to everything I say. I was like, I'll greet, you know, and I stood in a basement of a church in the, in a really shady neighborhood in Boston. And I, and I said, welcome, welcome to Cambridge young people.
And, and I met a lot of people and, and by having that willingness and by, by showing her
that I was willing to do that, we continued on on the steps. And so I was, I was powerless over alcohol. And so I was left without a power. And what was I going to do about that? And in Step 2, I found out that I was insane. I didn't really know that, but it, it made sense in hindsight, it made sense that I was insane with the way that I put alcohol in my body. And when I got to step three, there was this red book. And you know, I, I flipped through it and I read it and it didn't really, it didn't really work for me. And,
and my sponsors like, well, you're going to memorize this prayer and we're going to get down on our knees and we're going to hold hands and we're going to say this prayer. And I was like, that sounds weird. You guys are weird. Like I was weirded out from the beginning with how nice everybody was. All the phone numbers I got, the people that were willing to show me where the next meeting was and that I was going to kneel with my sponsor and hold hands was just bizarre. And so I,
I did it because I had, I had no other options.
I was told by people they were like, you're not an alcoholic. You know, you might have had a bad weekend, you might have had a bad time. And I'm like, I've been having bad weekends for about 6 years and I'm, and I'm sick and tired of feeling sick and tired. And so when I, when I was offered this way of life, I just, I just jumped in and it wasn't, it wasn't, well, maybe or no, I'm not going to do it the way that you tell me I was. I was just stupid enough to do what people asked me to do, and I was
just willing enough to get down on my knees. And so we met up at this church,
I think it was a Saturday afternoon and it was this big, beautiful church with this, the stained glass. And it looked just like the church that I had grown up in. And
they were getting communion was ending. First communion was ending. And all these little girls are running around in their white dresses. And I and I was reminded of what I was like as a child. And we sat in the back corner of the church and she's like, you ready? And we, we held hands and we got down on our knees and we set the third step prayer. And that was it. Like that was it. And, and nothing changed, but everything changed at the same time. And
I walked outside the church and you walk down the 20 stairs to the, you know, to the street and,
and she's like, we're going to meet in a week and you're going to bring your big book and a notebook and you're going to start writing. And I was aware that that by doing the third step, I was getting ready to do everything else. It was a commitment for me to continue on with the work. And, and it was just, it was just really interesting to, to leave and to, to notice how the sun was shining. And there was,
there was the serenity that I've gotten in sobriety is directly related to how spiritually fit I can feel. And
it's not, it's not related to. And I, and I started to feel that sense of ease and comfort at that point. And I started to feel that little bit of OK, everything's going to be OK. And
I've realized in again, in hindsight, that when I
got sober, I've actually found the serenity that I was looking for in the bottom of that glass every time I emptied it. And every time the voice is quieted down about how awful I was or what, what a piece of, you know, something I was. I am.
I felt a little bit better and I felt a little bit more comfortable in my skin when I was drinking. And I found that I can have that all the time
without drinking. And I found that that's easily accessible to me,
You know, as long as I'm maintaining my spiritual program and I've had the opportunity to sponsor other women and I've had the opportunity to do third steps in different places and, and they never look the same way. And, and if you haven't had the opportunity to share your experience, get through that work and share it with another alcoholic because it's just amazing to, again, get down on your knees. I've gotten down on my knees and and held hands with a girl and
in a park that was behind my house in the church that that shady meeting was at,
in a park by my new home here in Denver and, well, in Colorado. We're not Denver anymore.
And it's just, it's just interesting like what what it means to everybody and what everybody comes in looking for. And I and I use that third step prayer every morning and it's I'm not, I'm not, I don't wake up mindful and I don't wake up spiritual and I don't wake up knowing what to do every day. And,
but I automatically, I automatically, because I've just created a habit, I automatically just go into that third step and I, and at some point I get lost in the wording. Like I'll, I'll be walking and I'll be staying with stuff. And I'm like, where am I? And I just go back to the beginning and I get as far as I get and then eventually I make it through and it's the easiest way to to initiate my my meditation. And
when I,
when I was reviewing the third step last night, I was, I was thinking about the actor and I was thinking about how I like to control a lot of things. And people that know me know that I like to control things. I walked into orientation. I teach body mechanics at the hospital and I, I walk in and I was like, stand up. And I was like, sorry guys, I tell people what to do all the time, but stand up anyway, let's stretch. And, and I continued on with that and,
and I'm just, I'm just this, this force of, of self will if I'm, if I'm not looking for the opportunity, and I ask God every morning in my meditation,
then I may be the woman that he wants me to be, that I can see what he wants me to see and be the woman that he needs me to be and find the newcomer that may not know that alcoholism isn't a solution anymore. And I have many opportunities to be, you know, a spiritual being. And sometimes I fail and sometimes I need to go back and restart again. And the other day I had some jerk, you know, make me cry by 8:30 in the morning. And I like went in the bathroom and I was like,
OK,
are we going to do that again? Or can we, can we redo it? And sometimes like, sometimes I just have to make it to the end of the day and put my hat on the pillow and wait for another day to like be better at this. And, and it's just about the willingness for me, willingness is the key to, to finding the solution and finding my serenity again and again and again, because it's not, it's not a natural state for me. And so if you're new and you're just starting out or you're just trying to work on the third step, just try. And I love newcomers that are, that are like,
I'm just letting go and letting God and I'm like, OK, good, good luck. Continue to come to meetings, continue to talk to your sponsor and continue to go through the steps. So that hopefully years and years later was my experience that I found that serenity, but I, I had glimmers of it for a little while. And so if you haven't found that continue to work, it's, it's totally worthwhile and I'm glad I'm here. Thanks for listening.
Right. Our next panelist is Erica M from the Full Measures Group in Cedar Falls, IA.
Hi everybody, Erica Maynard Alcolic
sobriety date December 30th, 1996 Home group full measures speaker group in Cedar Rapids, IA. Actually, that's OK. We're just a hop, skip and a jump away from
Cedar Falls. Grateful to be here. Grateful to be asked to share anywhere in Alcoholics Anonymous.
I only have 10 minutes, so I got to talk fast because there's a lot to say.
I love it that our book says that we're at step three twice because that's just how I am. They tell us where it's step three and then they tell us what the opposite of Step 3 looks like, right? The actor who wants to run the whole show. I have a lot of experience with that and
and they tell us on page 62. So our troubles we think are basically of our own making. They arise out of ourselves. I had an experience at six months sober where I was stepless, hadn't worked any steps. I had a sponsor but she thought I needed
time. You know, work the steps. It's, it's the path to the solution. And don't wait for some magical time period to pass, please.
Because I was nuts and I was trying to do what you said to do. And and because I'd had a first step experience at two months sober where I saw that I had never had a couple drinks. And for me, for me, a couple of six or eight. So if I could just drink six or eight, I'd probably still be drinking. But I don't stop at 6:00 or 8:00. And,
uh, so my first step was really solidly in place at 25 years old because I saw that I had what you old people had the same illness and that I would never beat it. And, but I had an experience at six months sober. My son was 3 1/2. I was a single mom and I
and I put a little bowl of food in front of him and he threw the food and it landed, you know, both side down and and
something happened to me when that happened in this Ray dwelled up inside of me and I slapped him so hard that he fell off his chair
and he had a red mark on his face. And that's Erica without a higher power. But
my higher power was with me because something happened to me
and I was in the present moment, and I didn't make excuses for my behavior. And I saw my kid and I looked at him crying, looking up at me with those red eyes and looking at me like what's happening? You know what
I realized that there was nothing that that little baby could have done that could have caused that rage in me, that that rage had always been with me, always my whole life. My troubles arise out of myself. He is not the problem with me,
I am the problem with me. A A3 words or less. It's not them
really. Like really it's not
doesn't mean I don't think you are at time to time. I mean
sometimes I'm convinced. I mean I could get a petition sign. I mean, I could get a posse and I could get you on my side, and
left unchecked, I'll burn my life to the ground sober,
left unchecked, left unsponsored, sponsoring myself.
The third step says made a decision to turn our will in our lives
over to the care of God as we understood Him.
Turn, turn my will in my life.
I think that's a thing that I have to practice. And how do you know if you did the third step, will you complete 4 through 9? Right. Well, and then you have to do 10 because you take what you awaken with in four through 9 into 10 and you take that into 11 and then you carry that into 12. So isn't it really four through 12? And then isn't it really one through 12? Because every time I do 10, I'm doing one through 9. So
isn't it really all pointing towards a third step? All pointing towards aligning my will with God's will.
God cannot save me from what I want though.
God cannot save me from what I want. He'll let me do what I want to do. So I get to ask myself when I notice I'm in self. Because I don't notice. Sometimes a couple minutes, sometimes a couple hours.
I'm in self, I'm in fear. Sometimes I don't notice.
When I noticed that's my point of power, because I have a choice at that point to go on to the bitter end and do what I want,
proceeding to live backwards, which is evil
to myself. I thought it was you destroying me. I find out it's me destroying me so I can live backwards doing what I want. I got to ask myself if that really takes me where I really want to go.
Does that really take me where I really want to go? Self will doing what I want when I want.
Sometimes I'm like hmm,
just being honest. Umm,
or I get to accept spiritual help. This I do because I honestly want to and I'm willing to make the effort, which means I'm willing to work at it. I'm willing to take the actions. What is the spiritual action of that right? Sometimes it means I have to put pen to paper and do a ten step on paper. Sometimes it means I have to call somebody and practice step 10 and and talk to them about where I was selfish
or self-centered or full of fear. It always looks different and God continues to guide me.
I had to quit playing God. It didn't work. What that means to me is I had to quit assigning you roles and telling you what you need to do in my head because I may not say it out loud. You at least taught me some manners here.
But my problem is in my head. I'm delusional. I still can. I still can find myself in the position where I can't tell the truth from the false. Because my problem is those who do not recover, people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program,
Usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. That is the problem with me.
The main problem of the alcoholic is in her mind, not in her body. Because I lie to myself about myself, 1st about alcohol and then about everything else, right? I lied to myself about myself. That is the problem with me still today because not only do I lie to myself about myself, I believe them
over much good evidence to the contrary. Don't do this Erica. Don't go that way. Oh, I got a better idea. Thanks for offering that. But good intuitive thought there. But I I think I got a better way. Oh my Lord. So what happens when I'm in self is that I I assign you rules in my head and I have this judgment against you. I think my will is my thought life, my judgment. I can turn that over to God where I no longer
consider what is right or wrong, good or bad, right. That's God's business, not my business. That's a management decision.
I'm no longer in management. So it's God's business what's good or bad, right or wrong, which means I can't judge you anymore, right?
I have this judgment machine that lives inside of me. It's quieter than it used to be, but it's still active. You know, it's still, I don't even have to put 1/4 in it. It just happens automatically. And, and So what happens is I judge you and I have an idea. You know the man of 30.
Fell victim to a belief. He had a thought and it killed him.
He fell victim to a belief.
Isn't that what we do? Fall victim to a belief? We have an idea and we go with it and it destroys things in our life. It destroys relationships. So I have a judgment about you that was wrong. I don't like that. You shouldn't do that. And then I punish myself by feeling bad all day and being mad at you. That makes a lot of sense. It's stupid, but I do it because I'm right. And man, I've been asked so many times by so many people that have, you know, my
sponsor, my people that have helped me with the traditions. Erica, why do you have such a need to be right? You might want to look at that.
And I prayed about it a lot and I've sat with it not trying to know the answer, you know, and it's because of this, I, I don't, I don't want to give my will in my life over the care of God. Really. I really think I have a better idea. It's a lie, but I'm willing to go with it. You know, I'm willing to try to destroy my life. So
I'm willing to suffer
to think something is true that is not and I'm willing to ruin my day around that.
We had to quit playing God. It didn't work. I had to quit assigning roles. I have to practice that, which means when I notice, I turn to God. I just had an experience Wednesday night and Tom, my friend Tom starts talking to my husband about smoking cigars. I'm like, Oh my God, quit talking to him about smoking cigars. And and he says, you know, you have a good husband. You should be nice to him. You know, you should really. And he's saying this stuff. And I said I'll be nice to him if you will,
Bleep, quit talking to him about smoking cigars. And then I'll be nice to you too. And I won't hurt you. And you know,
and I just I got and it's it's funny and I was kind of joking. I love Tom. I love him with my whole heart and and I love my husband with my whole heart. But there I got on the inside. You know, when something started that spring started turn on the inside. And I will tell you right now that I am the only one in my life that can intervene on behalf of God. I am it.
You cannot save me.
I'm the only one that can turn,
I can turn away or I can turn towards. And I kind of went with that for a little bit, a couple hours and then and then I went, Oh my gosh, I'm in such fear now. Am I in self centeredness? I'm in such fear. I don't even, I'm not, I'm not consciously aware of what this fear is. So I said the fear prayer, God, please remove this fear. Whatever this is, it's underneath this. I don't need to know. I don't need to understand what's going on for God to heal me, right? I don't need to know. Trust me, I know too much.
If it's coming from here, from something I learned two months ago, two years ago, 15 years ago, and I start throwing it at my life today, it's coming from my intellect. The transformative power of God is not there. We have to start to live by intuitive thought, intuitive nature, which means it's coming from God, not from Ericas wisdom box that I've gained along the way, you know, and that's my experience. If I'm talking to you out of here,
there's no soul in it,
you know, and it's empty and you can feel that. But when we're talking out of here, we have that language of the heart and we know what we're talking about, right? So I said the prayer and I did my 11th step that night and, and what God, please, you know, show me what corrective measures. And I woke up in the morning and the thought came, oh, I guess it's not your business if your husband smokes cigars.
And it was like, oh,
it's really not my business. And I was just, OK, it's just not my business. I don't have to like it and I don't have to approve of it. I don't approve of it. Well, I shouldn't have said that.
I am a recovered alcoholic, but I'm not entirely well. I'm
than I've ever been. We can claim spiritual progress.
So I love it that we have the third step promises and we get an opportunity here to move towards, move into a way of living. If if you're here, you have no idea where you're going and I don't care if you're 2 days sober, 10 years sober, twenty 30-40 years sober, I don't care. You don't know where you're going here. We don't know where God's going to take us. That is the nature of the third step. We say as you wish,
you know, my life is no longer my business. Who brings me what God brings to me, what God takes away from me. It's no longer my business. My conduct is my business. How I act as my business. I love working the step with people, with the women that I work with. I I love the honor and the privilege of working with the women that I sponsor
because we when we go through this step, we get over here to the prayer and we there's themes in this book. Working with others. One of the most important things, we do all of this to fit ourselves,
to be a maximum service to God and the people about us. Because I cannot transmit something I don't have, which means I will transmit what I do have,
right?
So in, in working with them, I just had the privilege of doing this on the way up the down here from Iowa on the phone with a gal. And, and she had been sitting with it for a week or two. And, and we got to review this and, and talk about what it really means to turn our will and our life over the care of God. And then I take them right into the inventory work and get them to make a list. Call me back, right? Call me when you've made your list.
My husband says
if you call me in two weeks, call somebody else. He doesn't really mean that. But the point is, make the list, take the action. What else do you got to do? Right? It's like when we think we don't have time to pray in the morning. Would you go to work without brushing your hair or your teeth or putting on some clothes, getting out of your pajamas? No, but it's much more important that I'm on solid spiritual ground in the morning and I have an idea
of the way I would like my day to go,
meaning aligning my will with God's will rather than doing my own thing. And this gal who who was, you know, a couple years, she used to be a great grand sponsee of mine. And and then her sponsor left a A She's still sober, but she just isn't an A A but that really messed up her sponsees and, and she ended up taking pills. And I spoke at a conference in November with my husband and started working with her late November. And she got off pills December 6th and
and we've been working together since then and and
she texted me last night and said I got my list done
day and a half and thank God. I love working with women I sponsor. They teach me so much about myself. I see myself. They come to me with these things when they ask them to sit with these things that the questions that you've given me and
they amaze me. I watch the power of God. It you do not want to miss this deal.
This is the best deal in town, man, Tom said. I got nothing to bargain with. You gave me a life. I had no life. I was so manipulative self-centered. I, I was so good at it just was a part of who I was. You know now at least I have God can show me that I I have a moment that I can have an observer on board that I have a little bit of space between me and the reaction. I used to be just the reaction where I just, I am the anger, I am the judgment, I am the fear and I just
get it all over you. And,
and I didn't have any protection from that right now. You've shown me how to have conscious contact with God, which is very different than belief about God. Bill talks about belief in dependence upon two totally different worlds. I can sit on my butt all day long and believe and nothing is going to change. Dependence upon God is about what I'm doing throughout my day, right?
What am I doing throughout my day? So I think my time's up. OK, thanks.
Well, the microphone's open. We have a few minutes left, so please feel free to share your experience.
Hi, my name is Jan. I'm an alcoholic and and a grateful member of Al Anon. Really glad to be here this weekend and thank you to the panels. We heard some awesome, awesome sharing this morning. I got up to get here at 8:30 this morning. That's how much I love the third step
because I'm not a morning person. The third step for me, there's two There's a line in the Big Book, and I don't like to criticize the Big Book, and especially not here,
but there is a line and I know where it came from, but it says thy will not mine be done. And that line does not work for me because the idea of thy will not mine means that there's a conflict, means that it's black or white, that it's God's will or my will.
And you know, never the two shall meet. And what I had to do when I took the third step
was I had to align my will with God's will. So it's like I had spent my life, you know, with God's will going this way. And I was going this way with, you know, just butting into everything that came my way. And so when I took the third step, when I made that decision, I just changed the direction so that I was aligned with God's will. And, you know, I still get off course,
but
for the most part, that's what I try to do. I the way I look at the third step is that it's, I live for God and that
my goal is to cooperate with God. So I try to be a little bit softer about the third step. And I didn't get the third step at all until I got to the 7th step. When I went through the steps the first time, I was going through the motions. I didn't believe this stuff was going to work. I thought you guys were all lunatics
and I really, really was just going through the motions because I really desperately wanted to stay sober, but I didn't think it was going to work. I thought it was a bunch of gobbledygook. And so when I, when I got to the, by the time I got to the 7th step, I'd formed a relationship with a higher power, which wasn't in my, you know, that's not what I intended to do, but I loved it and I loved that feeling of, of ease and comfort that I got. So thanks again to the panel. I'm really glad to be here. Glad you're all here too.
Hi there. My name is Mary Theo, Alcoholic. Thanks you guys. It was very powerful.
Thanks. I'm reminded with the third step I've had a couple of feelings or thoughts go through my mind about how
our late and great Don Pritch used to say we're here to do God's work, not his job. And the first time I heard him say that, I thought that's brilliant.
But it's took me quite a few years to understand how that applied to me. And where it says that in the third step, the first thing we have to do is put playing God. When I'm playing God, I realize that I'm looking for the outcome. Now that's God's job.
I'm here to do the work. Just do the drill. As one member used to say in my Home group in Maine. I just do the drill. God knows the outcome. I'm not supposed to be,
well, you know, in my mind trying to figure that out. Second thing that came to me was I used to say that and I thought the same thing. Somebody said it was backwards. Why do they say afterwards that you think clearly, you know, and then also it's something about the fact that, you know, you should take it with someone that would understand and they name this stuff. Well, I never thought anybody would understand. So it took me years before I actually did it with someone. And when I did, it was something someone else. It was a powerful thing for me and it continues
for me every time I do it. But in that prayer, because I was so crazy, I used to only line I really heard was take away my difficulties because I'd be crazy. I'd be just going, all right, just take it away, Take it away. And I thought it said, now I didn't do this consciously, but unconsciously I kind of did it this way. Take away my difficulty so I can better do my will. It didn't say that,
It just didn't say that. But I, you know, in hindsight, in really looking at that,
that's why I'm so clear that I have to have a God that's a friend that really loves me because I won't if I don't have that, I can't do that step. Thanks.
Actually, ma'am, we have two minutes left if you want to come up and share.
My name is Janet. I am an alcoholic. And thank you all. It was really good for me to be here. And, you know, I, I've been reflecting on
this whole God thing lately and how it's playing in my life at the moment. And, you know, in my sobriety, this changes.
Some days I can just go with it and and be good. And, and then sometimes there's things that happen in my life that are things that are happening like right now and, and I have such a hard time. And so, you know, my questions today are,
yeah,
God's will. OK, so I've got this situation and, and do I sit back and, and just say, OK, it's God's will. Or, or do I look at the serenity prayer and, and do I say, okay, I need to March 4th and try to do what? What's put in front of me, the next right thing to try to help
this situation that's happening in my life? So at what point do I just sit back and say, OK, this is God's will?
And at what point do I try to do everything that I can possibly do to not lay down like a doormat? And, and for me, this has been a struggle in my sobriety with the third step. And and you know, here's I loved what you said because from the Iowa girl and because here's how it is for me.
My will, my situation is between Colorado and New Jersey.
My will is to go to New Jersey with the guns blaring and say what the hell is going on here? And God's will is to say, there are steps you need to take. There's slowly but surely, there are people you need to call. There are things you need to do. You need to trust the process, but you need to get off your butt and do certain things. And so for me
today, it's kind of a struggle. I'm in a struggle
and I know in my heart
that I need to let go of the struggle.
I need to do the next right thing. And sometimes this is how the third step works for me. You know, I need to do the next right thing, not just sit back. So thank you all. I, I, I needed some clarity today and, and I hope maybe for the moment
I've got it and that could change in another minute from now. So watch out if you see me walking along and I got this look on my face, just kind of do this and move away because you never know what's coming out. And so I'm grateful to be a member of Alcoholics Anonymous. Thank you,
All right. Thank you to everyone who participated by group Conscience Fellowship of the Spirit Conference does not close each meeting with the Lord's Prayer. Instead, we encourage that the entire conference be treated with an attitude of continuous prayer, and we will then say the Lord's Prayer together at the close of the conference on Sunday. Please help me close this meeting by joining hands for a moment of silence, but assure spiritual experiences and strengths with each other so that we may grow together in greater understanding and love.
Perfect timing, Absolutely.