Step 1 at the 2nd Annual Stay Sober For Keeps Workshop in Laguna Niguel, CA
I
get
to
go
first.
That
way
Myers
can
come
up
here
and
tie
up
all
the
loose
ends
and
stuff,
all
the
crap
that
I
forget.
All
right,
I'm
John
Kelly.
I'm
a
grateful
recovered
alcoholic
and
my
sobriety
date
is
September
the
4th
99.
And
I
am
very,
very
grateful
about
that.
And
so
is
my
Mama.
So
we
do
a
little,
you
know,
we're
going
to
cover
a
whole
lot
of
ground
today.
It
always
warms
my
heart
to
see
people
that
sacrifice
a
Friday
night
and
a
Saturday
night
and
a
Sunday
to
come
here.
Knuckleheads
like
me
talk,
you
know,
I
mean,
that's
pretty
impressive
because
I
know
we
all
have
lives
and
families
and
kids
and
jobs
and
stuff
that
we
like
to
do
on
Saturday,
just
screw
around
and
and
we're
here.
So
hopefully
we
won't
disappoint.
I
am
like
a
participation
guy.
So
do
I
have
like
is
there
anybody
here
with
like
more
than
five
desire
chips
over
the
years?
Y'all
can
be
honest.
No
one
don't
look
around,
just
raise
your
hand.
Anybody
with
more
than
10
more
than
15
or
20.
There's
my
knuckleheads.
I
love
it.
I
love
it.
I'm
not
making
fun
because
I
am
that
guy
too.
And
I
told
you
last
night
on
my
story
and
when
I
was
about
dead
and
detoxing
home
rebound
and
and
these
guys
came
and
talked.
They
blew
my
mind.
I
didn't
get
sober
that
time,
but
they
said
stuff
that
I
never
ever
heard.
Maybe
I
heard
it
in
11
years
in
a
a
land,
but
I
never
heard
it
presented
this
way.
And
so
we're
just
going
to
kind
of
kick
it
off.
I'm
going
to
do
a
lot
of
step
one
stuff,
but
just
to
get
my
mouth
going
right,
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
start
where
I
always
do.
And
then
the
title
of
the
book,
title
page
of
the
book,
it
says
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
the
story
of
how
many
thousands
of
men
and
women
have
recovered
from
alcoholism.
All
right,
not
recovering.
I'm
still
in
recovery.
I'm
always
recovering.
I
mean,
that's
like
a
sniveling,
whining
person.
I
work
12
steps.
I
had
a
spiritual
experience.
I
have
recovered
from
the
illness
known
the
mankind,
alcoholism,
an
illness
that
kills
people
that
don't
even
have
alcoholism,
right.
This
is
their
story,
their
experience.
It's
not
ideas
and
opinions,
it
is
experience.
And
this
is
what
this
book
is
about.
And
if
you
flip
the
page
over
past
the
table
of
contents
of
the
preface,
again,
you
flip
me
a
book,
I
go
to
Page
1
and
start
reading,
right?
I
am
a
reader.
I
like
to
read,
but
I
typically
don't
spend
a
lot
of
time.
There's
a
lot
of
information
before
we
get
to
Bill's
story
that's
vital.
And
in
the
in
the
preface,
in
the
second
paragraph,
it
says
that
this
book
has
become
the
basic
text
for
our
society.
So
right
off
the
bat,
the
authors
are
telling
us
they're
qualifying
this
book
and
they're
telling
us
that
this
is
a
textbook,
right?
A
textbook
is
totally
different
from
a
novel.
I
may
read
the
latest
John
Grisham
novel
and
get
blown
away
and
give
it
to
Mars
and
like,
dude,
you
got
to
read
this.
This
is
awesome.
I
will
probably
never
read
that
novel
again,
no
matter
how
great
it
is,
right?
A
textbook
is
different.
A
textbook
is
something
we
study.
We
refer
to
it,
right?
It's
like
in
little
first
grade
in
math
class,
a
little
teacher
passed
out
math
books.
You
know,
unless
you
were
the
friggin
genius
of
the
class,
you
didn't
go
to
the
end
of
the
book,
start
working
long
divisions,
right?
Each
chapter
in
the
mathematics
book
builds
upon
the
previous
chapter.
First
we
got
to
learn
the
numbers.
Then
we're
going
to
do
simple
addition,
1
+
1.
Then
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
chapter
and
do
some
subtraction,
then
multiplication,
and
then
division,
right?
Each
chapter
builds
upon
the
previous
chapter.
Each
chapter
gives
us
a
problem,
it
gives
us
a
solution,
and
it
tells
us
how
to
get
from
problem
to
solution.
They're
calling
this
book
a
textbook.
Why
is
this
book
a
textbook?
Why
don't
we
study
that?
Flip
the
page.
It
tells
me
why
4
to
the
1st
edition,
we
have
Alcoholics
Anonymous
or
more
than
100
men
and
women
who
have
recovered.
I
like
that
word.
Recovered
all
right
from
a
seemingly
hopeless
state
of
mind
and
body.
Well,
what
the
heck
is
a
hopeless
state
of
mind
and
body?
Well,
how
about
this?
I
can't
get
through
the
day
without
drinking
and
it's
killing
me.
In
order
for
me
to
live,
I
got
a
drink
and
it's
killing
me.
The
most
powerful
desire
for
me
to
stay
away
from
booze
of
is
absolutely
no
avail
because
I
drink
no
matter
what.
I
can't
live
with
the
booze.
I
can't
live
without
the
booze,
right?
Seemingly
hopeless
state
of
mind
and
body
to
show
other
Alcoholics
precisely
how
we
have
recovered.
Is
the
purpose
of
this
book.
Precise,
right?
You
dig
that?
Precise
instructions.
What
does
precise
mean?
Exact,
right?
Precise
is
no
Gray
area.
The
book
tells
me
how
to
take
the
steps,
when
to
take
the
steps,
with
whom
to
take
the
steps.
It
gives
me
prayers
and
promises
consequences
all
along
the
way
if
I
read
through
the
pages
of
this
book
and
I
get
inspired
and
I
get
hopeful
and
I
want
to
get
what
they
got.
I
got
to
do
what
they
do,
right?
Precise
instructions.
I'll
give
you
a
little
story
about
precise
so
we
can
tie
up.
Let's
just
pretend
that
it's
my,
my,
my
lovely
bride's
birthday
coming
up,
right?
And
I
want
to
do
something
special,
right?
And
I
got
my
friend
Angie
here
and
Angie
make
it
as
a
Baker
and
she
baking
cake.
She
wins
prizes
at
the
State
Fair
all
the
time,
right?
And
I
plead
with
Angie
to
give
me
one
of
her
prize
winning
recipes
so
I
can
make
a
cake
for
Melanie,
right?
And
after
some
him
and
Sahans,
she
gives
me
their
best
recipe
she's
got.
And
I
go
down
to
the
Central
Market
and
I
buy
the
best
ingredients
that
are
on
that
recipe
list
because
I
want
to
make
a
good
impression
on
my
lovely
bride,
right?
And
I
get
home
and
I
get
all
those
ingredients
out
and
I
start
to
mix
them
up,
fall
in
the
directions
and
there's
a
knock
on
my
door
and
it's
a
little
old
lady
from
down
the
street.
And
she
comes
in
and
she
inquires
what
I'm
doing.
And
I
tell
her
Melanie's
birthday
is
coming
up
and
I'm
making
her
the
cake
of
all
cakes.
And
as
I'm
mixing
it
all
up,
she's
looking
over
my
shoulder.
Then
she
says,
baby,
you're
doing
that
all
wrong.
And
I
said,
well,
I'm
following
the
the
recipe.
Here
she
goes,
baby,
I've
been
baking
cakes
longer
than
you've
been
alive
and
you
need
to
use
a
little
less
cocoa
and
you
need
to
do
this
and
you
need
to
do
a
little
of
that
and
not
a
little
of
this.
And
I'm
thinking,
well,
God,
she's
older.
And
you
know
what?
She
may
know
what
she's
doing,
right?
And
I
do
what
she
says
and
I
can
keep
making
the
cake.
And
I'm
getting
ready
to
put
in
the
oven.
And
she
stops
me.
I'm
like,
what
are
you
doing?
I
got
to
bake
the
cake.
She
goes,
baby,
you're
going
to
burn
that
cake
up.
And
I
said,
well,
that's
what
the
recipe
says.
Cook
it
at
350.
Baby,
I've
been
cooking
cakes
longer
than
you've
been
alive.
And
I
said,
well,
what
do
you
suggest
I
do?
She
goes,
you
need
to
back
off
that
heat.
You
need
to
cook
that
cake
at
90°
for
90
days.
Now,
let
me
ask
you
a
question.
Let
me
ask
you
a
question.
Is
my
cake
going
to
turn
out
like
that?
Prize
winning
cake?
No,
no.
Why?
Because
I
didn't
follow
instructions.
They're
going
to
give
me
instructions
in
this
book
for
him,
for
them.
We
hope
these
pages
will
prove
so
convincing
that
no
further
authentication
will
be
necessary.
A
A
puts
out
a
lot
of
books.
I
got
them
all.
I
got
a
lot
of
additional
books.
There's
some
great
books
on
alcoholism
out
there.
I
encourage
you
to
read
them.
The
only
place
on
God's
green
earth
where
there
are
instructions
on
how
to
take
the
12
steps
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
in
this
book
and
in
this
book
only.
I
know
we
got
another
little
book,
a
little
thinner,
easier
to
carry
around,
written
by
a
man
who
is
15
years,
16
years
sober
on
what
the
steps
meant
at
that
point
in
his
life.
That's
like
me
getting
a
showing
up
September
the
4th,
1999
and
Cliff
telling
me
this
is
how
it
is.
Great.
I'm
coming
out
of
the
gutter.
How
do
I
get
from
there
to
there?
That's
why
I
need
this
book.
And
if
you
don't
like
what
I
just
said,
go
read
page
17
of
the
12
and
12
and
they'll
tell
you
the
exact
same
thing.
We
hope
these
this
account
of
our
expense
will
help
everyone
to
better
understand
the
alcoholic.
Many
do
not
comprehend
that
the
alcoholic
is
a
very
sick
person.
We
got
a
lot
of
ignorance
and
misunderstanding
out
there.
They
think
it's
my
willpower.
They
think
if
I
just
love
them
more,
I
could
quit
drinking.
They
think
if
I
could
just
pull
myself
up
by
the
bootstraps,
right?
So
we've
got
a
chapter
called
we
got
a
section
called
doctors
opinion
that
we're
going
to
go
over
in
a
couple
minutes.
We've
got
chapter
to
the
wise
to
the
employers,
right?
The
family
afterward
want
to
let
those
cats
out
there
know
what
is
killing
me,
right?
And
it
says
and
besides,
we're
sure
that
our
way
of
living
has
its
advantages
for
all
the
short.
The
small
picture
is
I
got
sober
and
guess
what?
I
can
be
part
of
my
family
again.
I
can
hold
a
job
again,
I
can
pay
my
taxes
again.
I
get
to
mow
the
lawn,
right?
I
get
to
maybe
in
my
circle
help
some
some
new
guys.
The
big,
big
picture
is
look
at
all
the
people
that
are
now
sober.
Look
at
the
state
of
Texas
doesn't
have
to
pay
for
me
to
go
to
Parkland
Hospital
and
drain
resources.
The
state
of
Texas
doesn't
have
to
pay
for
me
to
go
to
jail.
The
state
of
Texas
doesn't
have
to
pay
for
me
to
go
to
home.
We're
bound
right.
It
has
its
advantages
for
all
right,
and
that's
the
4th
to
the
1st
edition.
I
ain't
going
to
spend
too
much
time
on
the
four
to
the
second
edition
because
it
was
written
in
1955.
And
it
tells
them
very
broad
strokes
how
A
started
out
very,
very
slowly.
Bill
met
Doctor
Bob,
they
finally
got
around
that
alcoholic
#3
and
they
grew
slowly,
right?
Some
key
articles
were
written.
You
had
the
meeting
with
the
Rockefellers,
the
Saturday
Evening
Post
Fulton
Aslers
thing,
and
after
that
Saturday
Evening
Post
article.
AA
blew
up
exponentially
year
after
year.
Wild
Growth
and
the
Home
Office
of
A
A
is
in
New
York
City.
And
then
when
they
were
writing
forward
to
the
second
edition,
they
wanted
to
get
some,
find
out
some
general
facts
about
their
membership
around
the
country.
So
they
questioned,
you
know,
what's
the
name
of
your
group?
You
know,
it's
not
like
some
scientific
empirical
evidence,
but
they
asked
them,
well,
you
know,
when
you
start
your
group,
how
many
people
just
start
with
how
many
you
got?
Now,
there
were
groups
back
then
that
kept
darn
good
records.
The
controversial
part
of
the
program
is
right
here.
Roman
numeral
20XX
for
those
who
are
Roman
numerally
impaired.
Intergroup
in
Dallas
hates
when
we
do
this,
and
they've
hated
it
for
years
and
years
and
years.
5
lines
down.
This
is
what
they
generally
found
to
be
true
in
the
Fellowship
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
in
1955.
Of
Alcoholics
who
came
to
AA
and
really
tried.
There's
that
keyword.
Really
tried.
50%
got
sober
at
once
and
remained
that
way.
That's
pretty
good.
50%,
half,
50
out
of
105,
hundred
out
of
1000.
Pretty
good,
right?
Don't
you
think?
Just
let
you
know
there's
not
a
treatment
center
on
this
planet
that
sniffs
50%.
OK,
so
something
they
were
doing
back
in
the
day,
they
were
doing
pretty
good.
They
got
half,
right?
25%
sobered
up
after
some
relapses.
So
you
had
knuckleheads
back
in
the
early
days,
right?
They
got
to
a,
a
a
they
may
have
got
a
sponsor.
They
got
a
little
fired
up,
but
for
whatever
reason,
it's
like
Jim
the
car
salesman,
they
failed
to
enlarge
their
spiritual
life,
right?
They
went
back
out
and
did
some
more
drinking,
says
25%
of
them
went
back
and
said,
hey,
Jason,
what
is
it
that
you
do
again?
Because
I'm
dying
here,
right?
They
got
busy,
says
other
remainder.
Those
two
out
of
three
returned.
His
time
passed.
Like
Myers
referenced
last
night,
dummy,
there's
groups
with
documentation
from
the
30s
and
40s
and
50s
where
they
were
knocking
out
eight
out
of
10,
nine
out
of
10,
right?
Fast
forward
to
today
and
a
a
worldwide
estimates
that
less
than
5%
of
the
people
coming
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
will
achieve
long
term
sobriety.
Sobriety.
I
got
12
years
at
less
than
1%
of
the
people
coming
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Worldwide
get
12
years
where
Myers
is
at.
I
mean,
it's
like
infinitesimal.
Strikes
me
as
odd.
What
the
heck
happened
from
50%?
Fast
forward
50
years
and
now
we're
less
than
5%.
And
what's
different?
Drugs.
They
had
Drug
towns,
hospital
where
I'm
going
to
talk
about
it,
World
famous
for
sobering
up
Alcoholics
and
heroin
addicts,
you
dig?
They
had
problems.
They
were
in
the
Great
Depression.
Rotten
nagging
spouses
are
still
rotten
nagging
spouses.
Jobs
still
suck
in
the
IRS,
you
know
right?
Problems
haven't
changed.
Has
booze
changed?
Last
I
checked,
80
proof
vodka
is
still
80
proof
vodka.
So
what
the
heck
changed?
Well,
let
me
break
it
down
how
they
did
it
back
in
the
day
because
we've
all
been
to
AA
land.
Let
me
break
it
down
how
they
did
it
back
in
the
day
and
see
if
that
matches
up
with
your
experience
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
we'll
use
my
brother
Myers
here
as
the
Guinea
pig.
And
here's
here's
Myers
Ramer.
He's
in
Homeward
Bound
detox
one
more
time.
And
Myers
comes
from
a
good
family
and
they
have
tried
everything
to
help
Myers
and
his
alcoholism.
He's
been
to
Betty
Ford,
he's
been
to
Sobriety
by
the
Sea.
He's
been
down
to
Lahacienda.
He's
been
to
the
wind
up
Joint.
He's
been
on
the
Doctor
Phil
show
with
his
inner
child
doll.
They
have
tried.
They
have
tried
everything
under
the
sun
to
get
Meyer
sober,
and
Myers
has
tried
everything.
And
yet
he's
in
Homer
bound
detox,
chewing
on
his
tongue,
dying
one
more
time.
Well,
back
in
the
day,
the
cats
from
AA,
we
go
visit
Myers
while
he's
detoxing
and
we
sit
down
with
Myers
and
we
identify
with
him.
We
tell
him
our
story,
we
find
out
all
we
can
about
him,
and
we
leave.
And
we
come
back
the
next
day
and
we
sit
down
with
Myers
and
we
go
through
the
same
spiel
again.
And
we
leave.
And
on
the
3rd
or
the
4th
day
I
go
visit
Myers
and
I
sit
down
with
them.
And
by
this
time
he
knows
a
couple
of
things.
And
one
of
those
things
is
I
drink
as
much
or
more
booze
than
he
ever
dreamed
of.
And
I'm
going
home
to
my
hot
little
wife
and
he's
in
a
busted
up
detox
and
he
says,
man,
I'm
just
like
you.
How
in
the
heck
do
you
stay
sober
now?
I
got
him.
Now
I
get
to
lay
out
the
program
of
action
that's
outlined
in
this
book,
Meyer
says.
He's
a
he
was
a
real
alcoholic
and
he'll
do
anything
to
get
sober.
And
I
become
his
sponsor.
And
we
go
through
this
in
a
rapid
fashion,
right?
And
in
a
short
amount
of
time,
he
has
gone
through
the
12
steps.
He
has
recovered
from
alcoholism
and
now
he
is
helping
the
new
guy.
Not
once
did
I
say
they
sat
around
talking
or
sound
around
a
damn
table
talking
about
their
day
their
way.
Not
once.
That's
the
program
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
So
let's
find
out
what
it
means
to
be
a
real
alcoholic.
Because
I
spent
a
lot
of
years
in
a
a
land
and
I
didn't
know
what
it
meant
to
be
a
real
alcohol.
Oh,
I
got
a
disease.
Oh,
my
disease
is
acting
up
again
today.
You
know,
So
Doctor's
opinion
was
written
by,
you
know,
the
bulk
of
it
is
Doctor
Silkworth,
Doctor
William
Duncan
Silkworth,
the
little
Doctor
Who
loved
drunks.
That's
a
great
book.
You
can
get
it
on
Amazon.com.
It
is
awesome.
Doctor
Silk
Worth,
like
so
many
people,
lost
it
all
in
the
stock
market
crash.
Needed
a
gig.
New
Charlie
Towns
Silk
Worth
had
a
little
affinity
for
Alcoholics.
He
got
a
job
running
Towns
Hospital.
He
had
every
intention
when
the
market
turned
around,
When
he
got
on
his
feet
again,
he'd
go
back
into
private
practice.
It
never
happened.
He
loved
drunks.
Towns
Hospital
was
world
famous.
Central
Park
West.
World
famous
for
sobering
up
Alcoholics
right
in
Silkworth
over
his
time
there's.
I
mean,
he
worked
with
like
50,000
or
so
drunks
during
his
time
there,
but
he
couldn't
figure
out
why
is
it?
Why
is
it
that
the
guy
or
the
gal
who's
drinking
themselves
silly,
who's
going
to
lose
it
all?
Who's
going
to
lose
their
family,
their
reputation,
their
job,
their
business,
perhaps
their
life?
They
go
to
towns
hospital
and
they
get
the
treatment,
the
towns
Lambert
treatment
or
whatever
that
was,
the
hydrotherapy
and
all
that
stuff.
And
they
counsel
them
on
alcohol
abuse
and
they
get
them
eaten
right
again
and
doing
all
that
stuff.
And
this
person
scared
to
death,
doesn't
want
to
drink
again,
doesn't
want
to
lose
their
sweetie
pies,
they
leave
the
hospital
and
leave
half
live
happily
ever
after.
And
then
you
had
a
certain
part,
certain
percentage,
10%
or
so,
who
go
into
the
hospital,
who
get
the
same
lectures,
the
same
treatment,
the
same
warnings,
the
same
everything.
And
when
they
leave
the
hospital,
not
only
are
they
drinking
again,
but
they're
in
far
worse
condition
than
the
previous
time.
And
so
Silk
Worth
came
up
with
the
theory.
And
if
you
look
on
Roman
numeral
XVI
or
in
a
fourth
edition
XXV,
I
I
Roman
numeral
28.
Let's
find
out
what
it
means.
And
it
says
we
believe
in
so
suggested
a
few
years
ago
that
the
action
of
alcohol
and
these
chronic
Alcoholics
is
a
manifestation
of
a
allergy.
All
right,
an
allergy,
an
abnormal
reaction
to
something
I
eat
or
drink.
All
right,
got
peak.
I
got
a
little
nephew
who's
allergic
to
peanuts.
We
discovered
that
when
my
nephew
was
like
three
or
four
years
old,
reached
into
a
candy
dish
at
Christmas
time,
ate
a
handful
of
nuts
and
darn
near
died.
Had
to
rush
into
the
emergency
room
pump
him
full
of
whatever
they
did
darn
near
died
Fast
forward
today
little
Doug
is
now
like
30
something
years
old
guess
what
he
don't
eat
peanuts.
We
could
call
him
right
now
hey
Doug,
I'll
give
you
$1000
to
eat
a
handful
and
he
doesn't
want
to
eat
peanuts
right
He
has
the
allergic
reaction.
I
can
eat
peanuts
all
day
long
I
love
them
right.
How
does
the
allergy
manifest
itself
in
an
alcoholic
that
the
phenomenon
of
craving
is
limited
to
this
class
it
never
occurs
in
the
average
tipper
drinker.
So
he's
saying
the
doctor
is
saying
that
if
I'm
a
real
I
have
an
allergy
to
alcohol,
it
sets
me
apart
from
the
rest
of
mankind,
right?
My
body
is
physiologically
different
than
those
normal
drinkers.
When
I
drink
alcohol,
it
manifests
itself
in
a
form
of
a
craving.
The
only
thing
that
one
drink
has
ever
done
for
me
is
convinced
me
that
the
next
one
is
going
to
be
better.
I
cannot
control
how
much
I
drink
because
once
I
drink
it,
I've
triggered
this
allergy.
It's
beyond
my
control
to
stop.
I
am
powerless
over
that
reaction.
Right?
And
I'm
off
to
the
races.
Doesn't
matter
what
my
intentions
are.
Does
it
matter
if
I'm
just
going
to
watch
the
basketball
game
with
my
buddies?
Have
a
couple
of
beers
once
I
start.
Bad
stuff
happens.
Wear
a
helmet,
all
right?
You
know
what
I
don't
like?
Break
into
hives
with
this
alley.
I've
broken
into
some
stuff,
but
never
broken
out,
right?
That's
the
phenomenon
of
craving.
That
does
not
happen
in
my
brother
or
my
couple
of
brothers.
They
can
take
it
or
leave
it.
They
take
a
drink,
whatever.
That's
not
me.
So
there's
a
question
I
got
to
answer
in
my
heart
of
hearts,
can
I
control
how
much
I
drink?
Can
I
step
over
to
the
nearest
bar,
have
a
couple
of
drinks
and
stop
abruptly
and
go
home?
Ain't
going
to
happen
for
me.
Never.
It
does
not
happen
right.
The
other
twisted
experiment
is
I'm
a
vodka
guy.
Put
a
nice
big
bottle
of
absolute
vodka
in
your
freezer,
let
it
get
really
good
and
cold
and
go
over
there
and
pour
you
a
nice
a
nice
big
slug
and
don't
drink
anymore
for
the
rest
of
the
weekend.
Good
luck.
That'll
be
gone
before
you
know
it.
That's
we
think
well,
God,
that's
bad,
right?
Because
if
that
was
my
problem
in
step
one,
if
this
allergy
is
what's
my
what's
my
cousins
solution
with
the
peanuts?
Don't
eat
peanuts.
Makes
perfect
sense.
He
can
even
walk
by
a
pile
of
peanuts
and
he
doesn't
freak
out,
right?
I
know
people,
a
lot
of
people
who's
allergic
to
penicillin.
What
do
you
all
do
with
all
the
CVS's
and
Walgreens
around
it?
Y'all
like
freak
out
when
you
know
there
are
largely
dependent
on
them.
They
don't
take
penicillin,
right?
If
this
allergy
to
alcohol
was
my
problem,
then
my
solution
is
very
simple.
Don't
drink.
How'd
that
work
out
for
you?
Uh-huh.
Something
else,
something
else
involved
in
here.
And
it
says
these
allergic
types
can
never
safely
use
alcohol
in
any
form
at
all.
I
got
to
read
the
labels.
Go
read
Nyquil
Alcohol.
Go
read
vanilla
extract.
Lots
of
vanilla
extract
will
get
you
where
you
need
to
go
in
a
pinch.
Listerine,
it'll
get
you
where
you
need
to
go
in
a
pinch.
There's
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff.
I
got
to
read
the
labels
now.
Treatment
center
number
one.
This
next
part
is
controversial
sometimes
in
a
a
because
treatment
center
number
one
said
this
next
part
that
I'm
read
is
why
my
life
is
unmanageable.
Let's
test
that
theory.
This
book
is
like
Mythbusters.
You
dig?
It'll
help
you
out
a
lot
because
the
way
I
was
taught,
if
it
ain't
in
this
book,
it
ain't
a
a,
right?
That's
the
way
it
was
taught,
it
says.
And
once
these
allergic
types
can
never
safely
use
alcohol
in
any
form
at
all,
and
once
having
formed
the
habit,
once
found
they
can't
break
it,
once
having
lost
their
self-confidence,
their
reliance
upon
things
human,
their
problems
pile
up
on
them,
maybe
they
become
astonishingly
difficult
to
solve.
And
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
out
there
will
tell
you
that's
why
your
life
has
become
unmanageable.
I
beg
to
differ.
You
drink
like
I
do,
from
the
time
you
come
to
to
the
time
you
pass
out.
Day
in,
day
out,
problems
pile
up.
They
become
astonishingly
difficult.
It's
very
hard
to
problem
solve
when
you're
blacked
out.
Jobs
suffer,
relationships
suffer,
you
drink
like
I
do.
That
stuff
happens.
Those
are
consequences.
My
life
is
unmanageable
because
now
that
I
know
I
cannot
control
my
drinking,
and
at
some
point
in
my
life,
various
points
in
my
life
I
swore
on
a
stack
of
Bibles,
I
will
never
ever
pick
it
up
again.
I've
made
a
firm
resolution
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
I'm
picking
it
up
again.
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
the
doctor's
opinion.
Look
at
real
page
24,
because
here's
the
bad
news
of
step
10.
You
thought
the
allergy
was
the
bad
news?
No,
no,
no,
no,
no.
Here's
the
bad
news
of
step
one.
It's
an
italics,
and
my
sponsor
says
if
it's
an
italics
in
this
book,
underline
it
because
it's
important.
Says
the
fact
is
that
most
Alcoholics,
for
reasons
yet
obscure,
have
lost
the
power
of
choice
in
drink.
I
like
that.
I've
already
lost
control.
Now
they're
saying
I
got
no
choice
in
the
matter.
Well,
let's
see
how
this
plays
out.
Our
so-called
willpower
becomes
practically
non-existent.
Sometimes
my
willpower
is
sufficient.
I'll
never
forget
getting
out
of
home
or
bound
one
time
and
I
was
at
it
was
at
the
grocery
store
one
day
and
somehow
I
made
a
wrong
turn
in
the
grocery
store
and
was
on
the
beer
aisle
and
I
had
to
get
back
to
like
the
cheese
or
something.
Was
that
the
And
I
made
it
down
the
gauntlet
of
the
beer
aisle
and
I
got
what
I
needed
to
get
and
I
got
out
of
the
store
and
I
was
like,
staying
sober
is
pretty
easy,
right?
My
willpower
was
sufficient.
Here's
the
tricky
part,
the
cunning,
baffling
part.
We're
unable
at
certain
times,
not
certain
times,
sometimes,
occasionally,
usually
the
worst
possible
time.
We're
unable
at
certain
times
to
bring
into
my
consciousness
with
sufficient
force
the
memory
of
the
suffering
and
humiliation
of
even
a
week
or
a
month
ago.
We're
without
defense
against
the
first
drink
treatment
centers
one
through
5
or
tell
me,
play
your
tape.
Play.
Think
the
drink
through.
All
right,
that
just
is
telling
me.
I'm
not
I
I
don't
remember,
although
I
mean,
I
have
not
forgotten
about
it.
All
the
horrible
things
alcohol
did
me,
believe
me,
I
haven't
forgot
about
him.
What
that
is
saying
it
at
some
point
left
him
on
the
vices
that
will
be
insufficient
to
keep
me
away
from
booze.
Fear
sobers
me
a
bit.
OK,
so
let's
do
a
little
test.
Everybody
close
your
eyes.
I
want
you
to
think
of
the
worst,
most
painful,
degrading,
humiliating
experience
that
alcohol
has
ever
done
to
you.
OK,
Myers,
we'll
start
with
you.
What
was
it?
Just
kidding.
I
know
that
one.
Fists
of
fury.
But
OK,
so
everybody
got
that
in
your
head.
What
were
you
doing
a
couple
of
days
later?
You
too,
huh?
So
you'd
think
like
putting
my
hand
on
AI
touched
a
hot
stove
when
I
was
little.
Guess
what?
I
don't
do
it
no
more.
I
don't
sit
there
and
obsess
on
today
I'm
going
to
touch
the
piping
orange
hot
stove
and
not
to
get
burned.
But
alcohol's
a
whole
different
matter,
right?
Alcohol
got
me
to
do
things
I
never
dreamed
I'd
do
and
I
cannot.
That
is
that
memory
that
is
not
enough
to
keep
me
away
from
it.
Left
to
my
own,
what
they're
saying
here
is
the
day
that
I
stopped
drinking.
The
clock
is
ticking.
I
stop
on
whatever.
Today
is
January
21,
2012.
If
this
is
the
day
I
stop,
the
clock
is
ticking.
And
he,
what
he's
saying
was
is
in
a
short
amount
of
time,
a
week
or
a
month
or
something
like
that.
Left
on
my
own
devices,
I
will
be
unable
to
stay
away
from
booze.
I
will
drink
no
matter
what,
and
for
me
to
drink
as
a
diet
because
I
can't
control
how
much
I
drink.
And
that's
why
alcoholism
is
an
illness,
because
left
untreated,
what
do
you
do?
You
drink
yourself
to
death
because
of
it.
Simple.
Left
untreated,
what
does
cancer
do?
It
continues
to
grow
and
to
multiply
until
it
consumes
the
host
and
the
host
dies.
Left
untreated,
that's
why
I
can't.
Alcoholism
is
no
different.
Let's
go
back
to
the
doctor's
opinion.
Frothy
emotional
peel
seldom
suffice.
Did
your
little
loved
ones,
your
little
sweetie
pies,
give
you
some
frothy
emotional
appeal?
If
you
come
home
again,
I'm
leaving.
I'm
thinking,
well,
sync.
Being
single
doesn't
stink.
You
know
I
didn't
like
this
job
anyway,
right?
Frothy.
A
promotional
pill
seldom
suffice.
The
message
which
can
interest
and
hold
these
alcoholic
people
must
have
depth
and
weight.
Had
a
lot
of
great
people
in
Doctor
Bob's
life
in
the
Oxford
Group,
giving
him
some
appeal,
some
frothy
emotional
appeal.
Right.
Whose
message
had
depth
and
weight?
For
Doctor
Bob,
it
was
Bill
Wilson.
Why?
Because
Bill
Wilson
was
just
like
Doctor
Bob.
Bill
Wilson
had
been
in
the
same
hole
as
Bob,
and
he
knew
the
way
out.
He
had
a
message
of
depth
and
weight.
Cliff
Bishop
had
a
message
of
depth
and
weight.
Right
that's
it
says
they're
in
nearly
all
cases
their
ideals
must
be
grounded
in
a
power
greater
than
themselves
if
they
are
to
recreate
their
lives.
Just
look
at
the
bottom
of
the
page
because
I'm
probably
running
out
of
time.
Men
and
women
drink
essentially
because
they
like
the
effect
produced
by
alcohol
right
And
that's
a
true
statement.
Why
does
the
normal
Joe
out
there
like
like
a
beer
or
a
glass
of
wine
now
and
then
I
mean,
you
got
Sonoma
up
the
road
a
few
hours,
right
Why
do
they
like
that?
What
God,
it's
great
right.
You
get
have
a
long
day
at
the
office
and
you
come
home
and
the
wife's
there.
This
is
sexist.
I
know
we're
so
much
more
advanced,
but
this
is
the
wife's
making
dinner
and
the
two
kids
are
doing
their
homework
and
the
husband
comes
home.
He's
had
a
long
day
and
he
grabs
the
papers,
iPad
or
whatever.
He
sits
down
in
his
big
chair.
He's
got
a
glass
of
nice
red
wine
that
they
picked
out
of,
you
know,
and
it's
just,
it
relaxes
them,
you
know,
and
they,
they
feel
good.
It's
a,
maybe
a
social
lubricant.
They,
it's
just
cool.
Let's
twist
it
around
a
little
bit.
Alcoholic
men
and
women
drink
essentially
cuz
we
love
the
effect.
Why
did
you
Did
you
drink
for
the
taste
only?
I
want
that
effect.
I
told
you
about
my
effect,
15
years
old
at
tennis
camp.
I
want
that
effect.
And
for
many,
many
years
I
got
that
effect.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
the
first
beer,
the
third
beer,
the
5th
glass
of
vodka.
I
don't
know.
But
I
want
that
effect.
Remember
trying
to
go
it
alone.
Or
maybe
you're
an
AA
land
and
you're
not
being
successful
saying
sober.
You're
just
newly
sober.
And
things
start
to
turn
around
and
you
start
to
get
a
little
hopeful,
right?
And
then
as
the
days
go
by,
that
newness
starts
to
wear
off
and
you
realize
the
relationship
is
kind
of
in
the
tank
and
and
the
job
you
have
really
stinks
and
your
puppy
is
sick
and
it's
raining
in
Southern
California
and
it's
just
not
working
out
right.
How'd
you
feel
when
you
had
a
couple
of
drinks?
Did
it
fix
any
of
those
problems?
Nope.
But
I
want
that
effect.
Right?
But
I
can't
stay
in
the
effect
because
it
says
the
sensation
is
so
elusive.
Because
what
is
that
effect?
I
mean,
if
we
if
we
scientifically
discovered
that
it
was
3
glasses
of
vodka
got
me
to
the
effect.
The
problem
they're
in
is
I
can't
stop
it.
3
glasses
of
vodka.
Why?
Because
of
the
phenomenon
of
craving.
Once
I
get
to
the
effect,
the
craving
is
checked
in
and
I'm
off
to
the
races.
I
will
overshoot
the
mark
every
time.
The
sensation
is
elusive.
I
can't
get
it.
It's
like
trying
to
catch
water.
It's
going
to
slip
away.
The
sensation
is
so
elusive
that
while
they
admit
it
is
injurious,
they
cannot
after
time
differentiate
the
true
from
the
false.
We've
all
got
injuries,
right?
Too
many
times
in
a
A
land
we
get
a
new
new
guy
or
gal
coming
in.
Oh,
we
got
a
newcomer,
let's
tell
him
how
we
got
here.
And
now
our
a,
A
meeting
is
turned
into
a
big
fishing
story
because
this
guy
tells
about
this
and
I
can
beat
that,
right?
And
now
I'm
going
to
tell
my
God
awful
little
story.
And
then
this
guy
is
going
to
tell
his.
And
now
the
little
old
lady
who
came
into
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
like
thinking,
I've
never
been
to,
I've
never
ate
out
of
a
dumpster.
I've
never
sold
myself,
I've
never
done.
And
she
leaves,
right?
I
got
injuries.
My
injuries
don't
have
to
be
injuries.
I
have
been
to
many,
many
hospitals,
injuries,
treatment
centers,
injuries.
I
wrecked
a
whole
bunch
of
cars,
most
of
them
not
mine.
Injuries,
right?
I
have
harmed
a
lot
of
friendships,
a
lot
of
relationships,
my
family,
right?
I've
been
to
jail.
I've
had
to
pay
attorneys,
right?
We
go
on
and
on
and
on
about
the
injuries.
I
got
one
we
can
probably
all
come
together
with.
How
about
dignity?
Oh,
you
too,
huh?
Yeah,
alcohol
got
me
to
do
some
crap
I
never
dreamed
I'd
do
and
end
up
with
folks
I
never
dreamed
I'd
end
up
with.
And
I
go
home
with
Beyoncé,
wake
up
with
Bigfoot,
you
know,
but,
but
those
are
some
injuries.
And
I
didn't,
you
know,
when
I
was
first
grade,
they
asked
me
what
I
wanted
to
be
when
I
grew
up.
I
can
assure
you,
being
35
years
penniless,
unemployable,
unlovable,
unwholesome
was
not
on
the
was
not
on
the
table.
I
had
dreams,
you
know,
but
alcohol
took
me
to
a
whole
different
place,
says
they
cannot,
after
time,
differentiate
the
true
from
the
false.
The
truth
is,
as
I
drink,
I
get
drunk.
Those
things
pile
up
in
a
hurry.
That
is
the
truth.
I
learned
that
the
painful,
tedious
way
of
running
all
my
plans.
But
that
is
the
truth.
If
I
leave
here
right
now
and
walk
down
to
that
little
liquor
store
I
saw
on
the
way
in
and
start
start
off
with
a
pint,
I
assure
you
I
will
be
in
jails,
in
hospitals.
I
will
dish,
annihilate
relationships,
you
dig?
That
is
the
truth.
What's
the
false?
Today
it'll
be
different.
Knowing
what
I
know
now
I
couldn't
and
hearing
these
guys
sad
story,
I
could
never
possibly
go
there,
therefore
I
won't.
It'll
be
different
today.
Today
I'll
control
and
enjoy
it.
Today
I'll
drink
like
a
gentleman.
Let's
not
confuse
ourselves
with
the
facts
that
I
have
0
experience
drinking
like
a
gentleman,
but
today
I'm
going
to
drink
like
a
gentleman.
All
right.
That
is
flat
out
insane.
My
brain
is
trying
to
kill
me
and
make
it
look
like
an
accident,
you
know,
says
to
them.
Their
alcoholic
life
seems
the
only
normal
one.
The
way
I
was
living
in
the
late
90s
had
become
normal
to
me.
It
was
normal
for
me
not
to
have
work.
It
was
normal
for
me
not
to
have
friends,
not
to
have
good
clothes.
It
was
normal
for
wherever
I
happen
to
be
crashing.
It
was
normal
for
when
I
left,
you
know,
it
was
5050
at
best.
If
I
were
to
ever
arrive
again.
It
became
normal
for
my
family
to
shun
me.
It
became
normal.
Like
I
was
talking
to
a
guy
out
there
in
the
parking
lot,
became
normal
for
him
to
walk
however
many
miles
it
was
to
go
beg
for
money
from
the
nuns.
That
just
became
normal,
he
says.
I
become
restless
and
irritable,
discontent.
So
alcohol
kicks
my
brains
in.
And
maybe
I
go
to
a,
maybe
I
go
to
church.
Maybe
I
just
say
I'm
never
ever
doing
it
again.
And
for
the
short
term,
the
goose
hangs
high.
For
the
short
term,
a
week
or
a
month
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
My
times
always
got
smaller
and
smaller
and
smaller
as
the
years
went
by.
But
for
the
short
term,
I
felt
better.
I
slept
better,
I
worked
better.
I
was
hopeful.
You
see
me
at
the
grocery
store,
you'd
ask
me
how
I'm
doing
to
tell
you
I'm
doing
great,
been
sober
a
week.
This
is
the
best
thing.
My
life
has
changed.
It's
different
this
time.
You
can't
see
sponsor
like
you
hear
that
a
bunch.
It's
different
this
time.
I'm
doing
it
for
me
this
time.
At
some
point,
that
little
newness,
that
little,
that
little
thing
kind
of
goes
South.
And
it's
not
like
people
dying
in
my
life
that
knocks
me
off
track.
It's
just
mundane
crap
like
waking
up.
I
go
to
bed
and
I'm
OK,
and
I
wake
up
the
next
day
and
it's
like
I'm
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
universe,
you
know?
I
realize
I'm
watching
my
favorite
team
play
a
football
game
or
something,
and
I
realize
it's
halftime
and
I
don't
even
know
what's
going
on.
Why?
Because
in
my
head
I'm
spinning
and
spinning
and
spinning.
Why
do
you
think
they
laughed
when
I
walked
in
the
room?
I
think
my
momma
loves
my
sister
more
than
she
loves
me.
My
head
restless,
irritable.
I'm
just
fidgety.
I'm
sketchy,
you
know,
restless.
And
I'm
irritable.
One
minute,
OK,
and
the
next
minute
you
Call
My
Name
and
I'm
like,
bite
your
head
off.
Just
a
little
jumpy,
a
little
tense,
and
I'm
discontent.
Poor
me,
I
don't
have
a
good
job
now.
I
drink
up
my
car.
I
think
my
Mama
loves
my
sister
more
than
she
loves
me.
Doesn't
anybody
love
JK?
Discontent.
I
could
have
25
years
now,
but
now
I
only
got
30
days
discontent.
Poor
me
sober.
Look
at
page
52.
I
ain't
going
to
go
there
now,
but
read
those
bedevilments.
Having
trouble
with
personal
relationships,
can't
seem
to
be
a
real
help
to
other
people.
Feel
of
misery.
And
that's
me
and
my
normal
state,
stone
cold
sober.
And
if
that's
me
and
my
normal
state,
what
happens
unless
we
can
again
experience
a
sense
of
ease
and
comfort
which
comes
at
once
by
taking
a
few
drink.
See,
I
get
restless,
irritable
discontent
long
enough
my
brain
comes
up
with
this
sucks.
I'm
just
glad
to
be
sober
today
and
I
play
that
game
long
enough,
which
is
for
me
is
not
too.
I'm
always
amazed
at
Myers
story
how
he
made
it
six
years
in
a
a
land.
I
make
it
like
six
months
and
I'm
ready
to.
I'm
looking
for
a
tall
building
and
a
sniper
rifle
because
this
is
we're
going
down,
baby,
right.
And
so
I
drink,
right?
Restless,
irritable,
discontent,
unless
I
can't
against
the
experience.
A
sense
of
ease
and
comfort
which
comes
at
once
by
taking
a
few
drinks.
Drinks
they
see
others
taken
with
impunity.
After
we
have
succumbed
to
this
desire
again,
right
as
so
many
do,
the
phenomenon
of
craving
develops.
We
pass
through
the
well
known
stages
of
Esprit,
emerging
remorseful
with
a
firm
resolution.
Never,
ever
to
do
it
again,
I
promise.
And
this
is
repeated
over
and
over
and
over
and
over,
and
unless
this
person
can't
experience
an
entire
psychic
change,
you're
screwed.
I
got
these
cats
at
home
and
they
still
think
you
do
live
stories.
Yes,
they
will
read
that.
Write
that
down.
Plagiarize
is.
There
you
go,
buckaroo,
because
that's
the
way
it
goes.
You
know,
what
I
thought
was
bad
in
1988
got
infinitely
worse
by
1999.
And
if
I
wouldn't
have
got
sober
in
99,
it
would
have
got
worse
until
I
died
from
it.
Welcome
to
step
one.
I
got
no
control
over
the
booze.
And
the
worst
part
is,
is
I
cannot
manage
the
decision
to
stay
away
from
Boost,
to
save
my
life,
to
save
my
job,
to
save
my
health,
to
save
that
relationship.
I
am
unable
to
manage
the
decision
to
stay
away
from
booze.
Left
to
my
own
devices,
I'm
screwed
in
step
one.
That's
all.
I
got
what
John
was
talking
about
and
stuff.
We,
we.
What
I
want
you
to
do
is
try
to
see
how
much
of
a
conflict
and
a
contrast
there
is
between
what
he's
talking
about
and,
and
what
we
do
in
our
meetings.
The,
the
I'm
going
to
switch
gears
on
you
a
little
bit
like
this.
We're
going
to
talk
about
step
one
as
it
relates
to
sponsorship
and,
and
come
at
this
thing
a
little
bit,
a
little
bit
of
nuts
and
bolts.
Now
listen.
If
you
talk
to
anybody
in
AA
land
that's
been
in
meetings
for
very
long,
the
very
first
thing
you're
going
to
find
out
is
that
they
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
the
drama
that
got
them
here.
You
see
what
I'm
saying?
And
so
you
can
spend
years
and
years
and
years
in
a,
a
talking
over
and
over
and
over
again
about
the
drama.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
it
all.
We
all
have
the
drama.
The
problem
is,
is
that
it
doesn't
make
any,
it
doesn't
describe
what
alcoholism
is.
And
look,
guys,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm
adamant
about
this
stuff.
If
you
don't
understand
your
own
disease,
you
can't
teach
it.
And
if
you
can't
teach
it,
you're
useless.
OK.
Yeah,
I
said
it
EU
word.
We're
here
to
teach
this,
and
you
have
to
be
able
to
understand.
But
let
me
tell
you
something,
guys.
I
know.
I
know
a
host
of
men
that
I've
worked
with
over
the
years
that
don't
have
a
clue
what
their
alcoholism
looks
like.
I
say,
well,
tell
me
why
you
think
you're
an
alcoholic.
And
they
go,
well,
well,
there
was
this
DWI,
and
my
wife
left,
and
I
went
no,
no,
no,
no,
stop,
stop,
start
over.
Tell
me
again
what
you
think.
And
then
they'll
try
it
again.
They
try
to
go
straight
to
the
drama.
And
I
keep
going.
No,
no,
no.
Let's
look
back.
So
go
back
and
look
at
the
doctor's
opinion.
98%
of
everything
in
the
doctor's
opinion
talks
about
what
the
physical
allergy.
Why
is
it?
Why
is
it
that
once
I
start
drinking
I
cannot
stop?
It
addresses
everything
there.
Everything
from
the
doctor's
opinion
all
the
way
over
to
page
44.
We
agnostics.
So
you
got
from
23
to
44
talking
about
what?
The
mental
obsession?
Why
is
it
stone
cold
sober?
Do
I
find
myself
going
back
to
drink
again?
Guys,
let
me
tell
you
something.
Your
wife
and
your
family
is
not
baffled
by
the
fact
that
you
drink
too
much.
I
promise
you
they're
not.
What
they're
baffled
is,
is
why
it
is
stone
cold
sober
with
no
booze
anywhere
in
you.
Do
you
decide
to
pick
up
a
drink
again?
You
look
like
a
fruitcake
and
you
are.
I
mean,
doesn't
it
even
baffle
you?
I
mean,
you
just
go
like
holy
with
all
of
the
knowledge
in
front
of
me
of
what
booze
has
done
to
me.
You
see?
I
mean,
I
wrecked
the
cars,
I
lost
the
job.
I
touched
things
I
swore
I'd
never
touch.
I
just,
you
understand
what
I'm
saying.
I
mean
it
just
you
can
always
tell
the
dope
friends
in
the
room
because
they
all
they
always
get
that
you
did.
You
know
what
I'm
saying?
You
just,
it's
just,
it
just
baffles
me.
And
so
I
God
love
us
everyone.
And
so
there
it
is.
This
is,
this
is
the
reason
why
we
spend
so
much
time
in
a,
a
talking
about
the
drama
and
talking
about
our
stories.
They're
all
important
guys.
But
Dang,
Dang,
the,
the
new
guy
begins
to
instantly
think,
man,
this
is,
this
is
what
it's
all
about.
This
is
it.
I
bet
I
got
to
get
a
drama
story
together
so
they
can
tell
the
drama
story.
This
we
got
a
brand
new
guy.
He
walks
in
the
door
and
he
sits
down
in
the
room
and
we're
going
to
sit
at
some
point
in
the
evening.
We're
going
to
sashay
up
next
to
him.
We're
going
to
talk
to
him
a
little
bit.
We're
going
to
find
out
a
little
bit
about
him.
He's
going
to
find
out
a
little
bit
about
us.
Now
all
this,
I'm
talking,
all
of
this
could
be
done
out
of
the
context
of
the
meeting.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
done
in
the
meeting.
It
could
be
done
anywhere.
Okay.
And
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
flip
over
to
page
44
in
your
big
book
and
let's
break
this
down
real
quick
before
we
go
scratch
what
people
go
when
I
get
a
brand
new
guy,
when
I
get
a
brand
new
guy,
I
want
to
I'll
sit
him
down
and
over
a
period
of
time,
we're
going
to
read
through
the
whole
book.
Terrific.
Read
it,
Please
don't.
I
read
it.
It's
terrific.
But
but
let's
what
I
want
to
do
is
I
would
like
to,
if
we
don't
do
accomplish
anything
else
today,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
move
us
to
a
place,
just
move
us
around
so
that
we're
looking
at
this
thing
for
what
it
is.
We're
talking
triage
here.
I
got
a
little
guy
in
front
of
me
that's
bleeding
out
on
the
floor.
I
mean,
this
guy
may
not
make
it.
He
doesn't
have
days,
weeks,
months.
He
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
time.
I
know,
but
it's
such
a
threadbare
idea
in
a
A,
it
just
makes
me
want
to,
I
just,
it
just
makes
me
want
to
scream.
The
idea
that
we
have
an
unlimited
amount
of
time
once
we
get
here
to
get
this
deal
is
ludicrous.
Listen,
guys,
my
experience
doesn't
bear
that
out,
nor
does
this
text
bear
that
out.
Everything
that
we
read
and
everything
that
we
experience
says
something
completely
different.
We
got
us
a
little
ticking
time
bomb
when
Janine,
she's
sitting
there
right
now.
She's
OK
now.
She's
sober
now,
but
how
long
will
she
stay
that
way?
And
I
don't
have
a
bunch
of
time.
I'm
going
to
get
her
on
firm
ground
first.
I'm
going
to
get
her
healthy
1st.
And
then
as
we
work
through
this
work,
we'll
go
back
and
collect
up
the
pieces,
parts
of
the
book
and
the
text
and
the
rest
of
the
stuff
where
it's,
it's
not
in
Texas,
It's
a
bit,
it's
a
huge
thing
to,
to
take
people
a
year.
It's
a
big
deal.
We'll
work
a
step
a
month.
Page
24
says
I
won't
remember
the
pain
and
suffering
even
a
week
or
a
month
ago.
And
you
guys
know
exactly
what
that's
like.
I
mean,
stop
and
think
about
it,
guys.
How
many
of
you
guys
have
ever
talked
to
guys
coming
out
of
treatment?
You,
you,
you
see
them
when
they
go
into
treatment.
You
maybe
do
them
on
your
little
H
and
I
thing
and
you
see
them
and
you
meet
them
and
they're
just
just
jittery
and
they're
all,
they
eat
a
handful
of
spiders
if
you
want.
I
mean,
they
do
anything
to
stay.
They're
just
compliant
as
they
can
be.
Give
them
27
days
of
good
food
and
checking
out
great
looking
women
and
and,
and
exercising
a
little
bit.
The
heats
off
of
them
for
the
blowtorch
backed
away
from
their
butt
for
27
days.
Yeah.
And
then
you
walk
back
in
and
the
kids
got
his
hat
on
backwards
and
he's
leaning
back
in
the
back
wall.
He
sees
you
walk
in,
but
he's
ignoring
you
completely.
Why
he
doesn't
need
you
now,
he
doesn't
need
you
now
he's
OK.
His
head's
already
sold
him
the
idea
that
he's
just
been
making
a
bad
time
of
this,
right?
You
know
that
works
that
way.
He's
just
I
just
made
some
bad
decisions,
but
I'm
OK
now.
I'm
OK
now
I
get
the
job
back
and
I
can
get
the
girl
back
and
then
I
can
get
the
car
back
and
I
can
just.
I
mean,
we
had
all
kind
of
it's
all
from
God,
it's
all
going
to
be
good
and
we
just
kind
of
Oh
my
gosh.
So
listen,
so
I
got
this
brand
new
guy
and
he's
sitting
there
like
this
and
I'm
going
to
say,
listen,
buddy,
let
me
let's
talk
about
a
couple
of
things.
Let
me
read
you
this
paragraph
and
then
and
then
you
will
you
tell
me
what
you
think
about
what
I'm
going
to
read
in
the
preceding
chapters.
This
is
the
first
51
pages
we
just
read.
You've
learned
something
of
alcoholism.
Now
we
hope
we've
made
clear
the
distinction
between
the
alcoholic
and
the
non
alcoholic.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
find
out.
This
is
the
dreaded
Q
word,
guys.
We're
trying
to
qualify
our
prospect.
The
book
says
it
in
a
dozen
places.
We're
trying
to
qualify.
I
know
some
of
you
guys
just
go,
oh,
you
can't
do
this.
Yes,
you
can.
The
book
asks
you
to
do
this.
We're
not
supposed
to
let
him
flounder
trying
to
figure
this
out.
We're
supposed
to
help
him.
I
can't
label
you
alcoholic,
that's
not
my
job.
But
I
can
lead
you
into
a
position
to
where
you
can
see,
based
on
your
own
experience,
where
you
stand
with
this,
right?
And
it's
groovy.
OK,
so
here
it
is.
If
when
you
honestly
want
to,
you
find
you
cannot
quit
entirely
or
when
drinking
you
have
little
control
over
the
amount
you
take,
you
are
probably
alcoholic.
Two
things,
choice
and
control.
Have
you
lost
the
power
of
choice
and
control?
If
you
guys
that
still
are
lucky
enough
to
have
wives,
if
you
told
your
wife
that
you're
going
to
leave
work
and
you're
going
to
go
home
and
you're
going
to
drink
a
beer
with
the
guys
and
then
you're
going
to
come
home,
start
dinner.
I'm
there,
I'm
I'm
heading
that
direction.
And
then
you
go
and
you
drink
a
beer
and
then
another
beer
and
then
6
beers
later,
8
beers
later,
whatever
the
deal
is,
you
come
home.
You've
lost
the
power
of
control.
Once
you
start,
you
cannot
stop
it
manifested
that
like
that.
She
gets
pissed,
throws
the
food
in
the
trash
can,
walks
out
the
door
and
you
go,
OK,
look,
I
promise,
I
promise
I
will
never
ever
do
this
again.
I
won't
do
it.
And
then
two
weeks
later,
you
drive
it
home
from
work,
7
elevens
over
there
like
this.
You
know,
man,
what
a
fine
day.
A
beer,
man,
wouldn't
that
be
the
coolest?
And
you
walk
in
and
you
buy
this
beer
and
you
drive
it,
you
drink
it
on
the
way
home.
You've
lost
the
power
of
choice.
Choice
and
control
and
that's
it.
We
didn't,
you
notice
guys,
in
this
illustration,
we
didn't
talk
anything
about
the
DWI.
We
didn't
talk
anything
about
the
busted
relationship,
the
fact
that
you
can't
hold
a
job,
the
fact
that
you
we
didn't
talk
about
any
of
that
stuff
because
it's
not
important
and
we
must
get
our
fellowship
back
on
that
track.
It
is
not
important.
It's
important
to
you
because
you
lived
it.
But
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
identifying
who
you
are.
Your
drama
does
not
define
you,
and
you
must
be
clear
on
that.
It's
important
that
you
know
your
story
because
you're
going
to
want
to
engage
this
guy
at
some
point
in
time
in
a
12
step
call.
Nothing's
more
important
than
a
good
story.
You're
going
to
have
to
be
able
to
do
that.
But
once
he's
in
the
room,
once
he's
here,
we
have
him.
This
is
the
reason
why
I
get
so
amazingly.
I
just
get,
I
want
to
just
explode
when
I
see
how
much
quality
time,
recovery
time
in
a
A
is
spent
just
telling
stories
like
it
means
anything.
It
doesn't.
Why
don't
we
spend
our
time
helping
these
cats
qualify
themselves?
So
we
I
say,
well,
you
know,
look
at
what
it
says
right
underneath
that.
If
this
be
the
case,
you
may
be
suffering
from
an
illness
which
only
a
spiritual
experience
will
conquer.
While
could
it
be
any
clearer
you
guys
that
flounder
around
with
the
idea
of
sponsoring
guys
if
you
did
nothing
more.
Nothing
more
than
learn
that
paragraph
and
to
be
able
to
take
a
brand
new
man
or
a
brand
new
woman
that
comes
shakily
into
your
room
and
be
able
to
read
this
to
him
and
help
him
understand
this.
You
would
be
doing
our
fellowship,
an
immeasurable
service.
Immeasurable
because
you're
just
helping
them
see
quickly.
Why
is
it
that
so
many
of
us
have
to
wait
years
and
years
and
years
and
painful
years
before
we
finally
hear
this
message
like
this?
Why
is
that?
Why
is
it
that
for
some
of
us,
the
worst
time
of
our
entire
existence
was
after
we
got
here?
Shame
on
us
for
allowing
that
stuff
to
happen.
You
see,
It
just
shouldn't
be
that
way,
guys.
So
once
we
get
this
little
guy
qualified
011
more
thing,
and
then
we're
for
sure
going
to
smoke
this
last
little
sentence,
which
only
a
spiritual
experience
will
conquer.
It's
interesting.
OK,
I'll
ask
it.
I,
I
did,
I
just,
I
always
say
I'm
not
going
to
do
this,
but
I
would
do
it
because
everybody
always
seems
to
get
offended.
And
I'm
not
trying
to
be
offensive.
I'm
just
trying
to
ask
you
a
simple
question.
How
many
meetings
do
you
have
to
go
to
to
have
a
spiritual
experience?
None.
None.
You
could
effectively
do
this
at
Denny's.
Seriously.
And
get
this
guy
right
here
that
that
I'm
not.
Again,
everybody
always
goes
well.
He
just
hates
meetings.
No,
for
U2,
therapy
is
the
only
thing
that's
going
to
help.
Therapy
and
lots
of
meds
are
the
only
thing
for
you
guys
like
that.
But
you
guys
understand
what
I'm
saying.
I'm
just
saying
all
I'm
simply
trying
to
do
is
back
us
away
from
the
idea
that
that
in
itself
is
the
solution.
Keep
coming
back.
Meeting
bakers,
make
it.
Well,
let
me
tell
you
something
guys,
from
my
own
personal
experience,
there
are
a
lot
of
us
that
were
meeting
makers
that
died
slow
and
very,
very
painful
deaths.
How
many
times,
how
many,
how
many
times
have
we
heard
people
who
left
meetings
kill
themselves?
If
meeting
makers
make
it,
how
come
there's
so
much
drama
around
that?
God
love
us
all.
We'll
get
when
we
come
back.
We're
going
to
take
a
little
15
minute
break
and
then
you
guys
be
responsible
with
them
butts
and
we'll
be
back.
Thanks,
How
do
you
again,
y'all,
you
know,
it's
we
always
spend
a
bit
of
time
on
this
first
step
stuff
because
it's
so
it's
so
dead
gum
important
that
we
get
it
and
that
we
understand
kind
of
I
think
sometimes
in
in
our
fellowship,
we've
made
it.
We've
made
it
a
lot
harder
than
it
needs
to
be.
The
book
went
to
great
lengths
to
make
it
as
as
easy
as
they
can.
But
I
think
sometime
in
our
own
defense,
I
got
to
tell
you,
let
me,
let
me,
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
cover
of
just
a
little
shred
of
first
step
stuff
that
I
wanted
to
do
in
the
last
hour.
And
then
we're
going
to
do
a
piece
of
two
and
three.
And
then
John
will
come
up
and
sew
up
all
my
loose
ends.
And
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
get
this
stuff
set
up
for
inventory
stuff
that
we're
going
to
do
right
after
lunch.
We're
going
to
address
it
right
before
lunch,
but
we're
going
to
actually
get
into
some
stuff
and
try
to
bat
down
some
of
those
crazy
ideas
around
inventory
in
the
early
part
of
the
afternoon
when
you're
in
some
kind
of
food
funk
and
nodding
off
like
that.
We'll
get
everybody
and,
and
then
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to,
we're
going
to
kind
of
move
rather
briskly
through
the
rest
of
this
thing
so
that
we
can
spend
a
little
quality
time
in
1011
and
12.
Because
everything
sometimes
in,
in,
in
workshops
all
over
the
world.
You
have
guys
that
spend
so
much
time
in
the
middle
of
this
stuff
and
in
the
in
the
center
part
of
this.
And
I'm
not
discounting
any
of
it,
but
they
get
down
to
the
end
of
it.
And
so
they
get
on
the
end
of
it.
There's
no
time
to
do
it.
If
they're,
they're
on
a
full
weekend
thing
like
this.
I've
heard
guys
go,
well,
we
sort
of
ran
time,
but
you
know,
Step
12,
it's
real
important
too.
You'll
have
a
good
weekend.
We'll
see
you
next
year.
It's
like
that.
You
kind
of
going
like
what,
what,
what?
I
mean,
what
we
really
ought
to
be
doing
is
spending
all
of
our
time
talking
about
step
one
stuff
and
step
12
stuff.
And
we
would,
I
think
we
would
do
everybody
a
better
service
if
we
could
concentrate
on
that.
Step
12
is
kind
of
this
lost
step
that
so
many
in
our
fellowship
will
ignore
for
various
reasons.
And
we're
going
to
kind
of
break
down
some
of
those
reasons
why
people
would
do
that
in
a
in
a
bit.
I
want
to,
I
want
to
mention
something
real
quick
that
in
defense
of
all
of
us
who
sat
in
meetings
sharing
our
story
for
so
many
years
and
in
defense
of
some
of
the
things
that
we've
allowed
happen,
guys,
what
goes
on
here
is
that
sometimes
it's
the
format
itself,
the
format
of
our
meeting
itself
that
allows
some
crazy
stuff
to
go
on.
And,
and
so
sometimes
rather
than
rather
than
than
being
too
critical
with
ourselves,
I
think
sometimes
we
need
to
go
back
and
be
a
little
critical
of
how
we
set
the
meeting
up
in
the
1st
place
that
allows
that
freewheeling
goofy
stuff
to
go
on
in
the
deal
like
that.
Just
a
little
piece
of
information
here
that
might
be
interesting
to
note
that
when
we
were
talking
about
the
number
of
people
that
came
to
a
a
another
John
was
started
talking
about
this
stuff
this
morning.
I
always
thought
it
was
really
interesting
that
between
1935
and
1971,
right
before
the
Hughes
Act
was
enacted,
remember
the
Hughes
Act
for
some
of
you
guys
that
have
been
around
while
the
Hughes
Act
was
enacted
in,
in,
in
72.
It
was
the
last
thing
that
Nixon
did
before
he
left
office,
riding
into
effect
law
that
made
alcoholism
what
it
is
so
that
treatment
centers
could
come
in
and
treat
it
as
a
disease.
And
So
what
you
ended
up
with
is,
is
this
amazing
growth.
It
took
us
36
years
to
get
the
first
half
million
people
as
members
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
from
35
to
71.
It
took
us
36
years
to
get
500,000
people
from
1971
to
76
for
that's
the
next
five
years,
we
added
another
500,000.
Another
half
a
million
people
came
in
in
five
years.
And,
and,
and
within
those,
within
those
people,
there
was
an,
there
was
a
sea
of
well
meaning,
warm,
gentle.
Is
there
any
other
accolade
I
could
put?
I
mean,
these
are
cool
people
that
came
in,
these
weren't
evil
knuckleheads
from
hell
that
were
coming
in
to
destroy
our
fellowship.
The
problem
was,
is
that,
is
that
by
the
time
that
a
lot
of
these
guys
started
getting
here,
we
had
already
started
shifting
our
view
and
our
ideas
about
alcoholism.
The,
the,
the
steps
had
been
watered
down.
The
idea
we,
we
began
to
take
a,
a,
a
program
that,
look,
we
had
a
big
program
over
here
which
included
the,
the
life
saving
steps
and
we
had
the
fellowship
over
here,
which
included
sober
bowling
cards,
whatever.
I
mean,
coffee
after,
I
mean,
all
the
stuff
over
here.
But
So
what
happened
was,
is,
is
that
over
the
years
we
began
to
drift
more
and
more
and
more
over
to
the
fellowship
side
of
the
deal
at
the
great
expense
of
the
program
side
of
the
deal.
And
we
had
sponsorship
became
something
that
was
this.
We
talked
about
it
a
little
bit
last
night,
got
just
sort
of
flipped
over
to
the
responsibility
of
the
group
itself
rather
than
the
sponsors
themselves.
We
weren't
being
taught
to
be
strong
sponsors
anymore.
We
were
taught
to
be
unified
members
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
members
of
our
Home
group
and
this
kind
of
stuff.
And
there's
not
anything
wrong
with
any
of
that.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
OK,
There's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
The
the
problem
that
over
a
period
of
time,
let's
say,
see,
it's
a
lot
of
it
started
in
the
80s
when
I
sobered
up.
I
mean,
there
were
a
lot
of
things
that
we
could
have
checked
in
the
mid
80s
to
the
late
80s
that
we
didn't
check.
It
just,
it
just
went
on.
People
would
talk
about
weird
stuff
and
the
meetings
would
get
weird
and
we
would
just
go,
OK,
that's
I
guess
that's
just
the
way
it
is.
Again,
because
we're
too
lazy
to
study
when
there's
nobody,
there's
not,
there's
not
a
concerted
effort
among
the
old
timers
to
hold
it
on
track.
But
but
I'll
tell
you
right
now,
guys,
you
know,
in
your
own
home
groups,
if
you
ever
get
the
old
timer
aside
and
you
can
talk
to
him
for
a
couple
of
minutes,
what
they'll
tell
you
in
all
honesty,
is
that
AA
in
those
days
bears
little
resemblance
to
AA
today,
you
see.
And
so
it's
it's
fairly
dramatic,
the
difference
between
the
two.
And
so
all
I'm
trying
to
do
is
I'm
not
saying
they
did
it
perfect
then,
but
I'm
just
saying,
why
would
it
be
so
difficult
just
to
simply
poor
meeting
back
around
a
little
bit.
So
it
was
a
little
more
focused
on
the
solution
and
a
little
less
focused
on
just
just
fellowship.
You
see,
that's
not
too
much
to
ask.
And
in
groups
where
we
see
that
happening,
let
me
give
you
a
great
example
that
worked
on
this
thing
in,
in
the
greater
metropolitan
area
of,
of
London
in
Great
Britain
10
years
ago.
There
were
no
book
studies
anywhere
out
there.
I'm
telling
you,
there
was
none.
It
was
an
absolute
crazy
nightmare
of
non-stop
discussion
meetings.
We,
our
hope
for
years
had
been
that
when,
when
the
Europeans
picked
up
the,
the,
the
program
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
that
they
would
pick
up
the
best
that
we
had
to
offer.
And
what
they
picked
up
was
non-stop
discussion
meetings.
That
was
it.
And
it
was
wheels
off.
Yes,
there
was
some
success.
The
problem
was,
is
that
there
was
also
some,
some
really,
really
tragic
things
going
on.
No,
no
literature
stuff
got
in
there.
So
you
had
people
staying
sober
in
the
rooms
that
didn't
know
any
doctrine,
they
didn't
know
any
big
book
and
so
they
couldn't
pass
that
stuff
along.
And
so
generationally
just
crazy.
Well,
we
started
talking
to
these
guys
about
starting
big
book
studies
over
there.
Let's
this
is
10
years
ago
and
and
they
started
at
one
point
in
time,
there
were
six
or
seven
brand
new
book
studies
in
the
metropolitan
area.
Some
were
using
study
guides,
some
were
not
using
study
guides,
but
they
were
all
had
the
big
book
as
the
focus
of
their
meeting
like
this.
And
guys,
I'm
telling
you,
I've
got
copies
of
the
letters
that
these
guys
sent
me
during
that
period
of
time.
And
it
you
would,
I
mean,
you'd
go
from
elation
to
just
weeping
because
you,
you
just
the
lives
changed
by
simply
being
a
little
more
dogmatic
about
what
we're
teaching
in
meetings
than
just
letting
people
just
share
nonstop
about
their
experience
in
treatment
or
whatever
they
happen
to
be
sharing
that
day.
I
don't
it's
it's
all
good
sorta
you
understand.
And
so
let
me
tell
you.
But
an
interesting
thing
a
couple
years
ago
the
the
cult
watch
guys
got
involved
with
a
thing.
And
if
you
if
you
have
not
been
around
very
long,
if
you've
not
been
on
sometimes
Google
UK
cult
watch,
UK
cult
watch
and
a
crazy
bunch
of
guys.
I'm
saying
right
here
on
tape.
I
hope
they
hear
it.
I
wish
they
would
spend
nearly
as
much
time
helping
drunks
as
they
do
trying
to
destroy
what
the
rest
of
us
are
building.
That's
my
statement.
These
guys
have
have
printed
and
said
things
over
the
years
that
that
were
pretty
unkind.
And
if
my
skin
wasn't
thick
Texan
skin,
I
would
have
said
I'm
stopped.
But
they
ran
a
bunch
of
these
book
studies
out
of
out
of
out
of
business
overnight.
They
go
sit
in
their
meeting,
be
disruptive,
talking
about
all
this
other
kind
of
stuff.
And
their
big
deal
was
it
that
these
guys
were
studying
the
text
and
that's
what
rankled
them.
They
were
studying
and
they
didn't
have
a
place
where
people
could
share.
Man,
I'm
telling
you,
what
we
need
in
this
fellowship
is
a
lot
less
sharing
and
a
lot
more
talk
about
the
text.
And
we
would,
we
would
all
be
healthier.
I
promise
you.
You
also,
there's
also
on
that
website
some
letters
that
they
wrote
to
me
directly
in
the,
in
the
guise
of
death
threats.
You
should
read
them.
It's
interesting.
I've
been
to
you
last
year,
I
was
in
Europe
five
times.
And,
and
you
should
read
the
letters
that
I
get
the
day
I
leave
don't
come.
You
know,
this
kind
of
stuff,
it's
ugly.
It's
really
ugly.
And
you
wouldn't
think
it
would
be
that
way.
I
mean,
it
could
look
at
me.
I'm
no
threat
to
anybody.
Never
mind.
That's
good.
Shoot.
So,
so
here's
the
deal.
This
idea
around
around
this
step
one
stuff.
Once
we
get
in
our
head
and
we
understand
what
it
is
that
we're
that
we're
we're,
we're
teaching.
So
let's
take
this
same
kind
of
guy,
this
guy
that
we
just
shared
this
step
one
stuff
in
before
or
after
the
meeting.
And
we've
talked
to
him
about
this
stuff
and
he's
going
uh-huh,
uh
huh,
uh-huh.
Like
this.
Listen,
we're
not
trying
to
force
this
guy
through
this
stuff
that
don't
misunderstand
me
here
like
this.
But
if
the
guy
is
answering
the
questions
right
and
he
goes,
you
know
what
sounds
just
like
you
and
I
go,
yeah,
it
does,
you
know?
When
I
when
that
happened
to
me,
I
had
to
come
to
the
conclusion
that
I
was
an
alcoholic.
And
he
goes,
yeah,
it
sounds
like
me
too.
Now,
I've
saved
this
guy.
I
think
I've
saved
this
guy
maybe
years
floundering
around
a
a
scratching
his
head,
wondering
if
he's
one
of
us.
Because
listen,
guys,
here
it
is.
The
pain
gets
us
here.
And
if
left
unchecked,
the
pain
will
go
away.
And
then
we
wonder
why
we're
here.
That's
the
reason
why
we
have
so
many
people
coming
in
and
going
back
out
again,
why
the
relapse
rate
in
this
deal
is
so
is
so
goofy.
This
is
the
reason
why
we
got
so
many
people
getting
hooked
up
in
meds
that
didn't
need
to
get
up.
They
came
in
hurting.
The
pain
drove
them
in
here.
They
got
here,
they
didn't
do
any
step
work.
They
didn't
do
anything.
They
just
got
into
this
sharing
mode.
They
could
do
anything
like
this.
The
spiritual
malady
starts
kicking
their
rear
end.
Their
ego
starts
reasserting
itself.
Selfishness
and
self
centeredness
comes
back
full
force
and
all
of
a
sudden
they're
so
uncomfortable
in
their
own
skin.
They
go,
I
mean,
how
can
this
happen?
I
got
to
go
to
a
doctor
if
the
doctor's
heavy
in
the
United
States,
heavy
with
his
prescription
pad
and
all
of
a
sudden
there
got
a
bunch
of
meds.
Listen,
I'm
not
making
light
of
anything
and
I'm
not
getting
into
that
controversy
about
meds.
We
can
talk
about
it
anytime
you
want
to.
I'm
just
saying,
guys,
there
are
a
lot
of
times
that
we're
prescribed
meds
when
a
spiritual
malady
could
have
been
treated.
What
the
meds
are
supposed
to
be
treating
is
untreated
alcoholism.
And
we
had
a
way
to
treat
it.
Now
listen,
I
am
a
I
am
a
firm
golly
don't
misunderstand
me
here.
I
believe
that
when
meds
are
necessary,
they're
necessary.
Take
them.
I'm
not
saying
don't
take
them
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
make
I'm
no
doctor.
It's
not
my
job
to
diagnose
that
kind
of
stuff.
I'm
just
saying
when
50%
of
the
beds
in
the
United
States
today
in
treatment,
in
treatment
beds
are
filled
with
people
who've
relapsed
on
pain
meds,
we
got
to
start
looking
at
this
stuff,
guys.
We
got
to
start
paying
attention
what's
happening
within
our
fellowship
on
this.
It's
pretty,
it's
pretty,
pretty
weird.
So
here's
the
deal.
We
got
this
brand
new
guy.
He
says
he's
an
alcoholic.
What's
my
next
question?
This
is
the
number
two
thing
that
I
would
ask
a
brand
new
guy
if
he
came
in
OK.
The
number
two
thing
I
would
ask
him
is
tell
me
what
you
think
about
God.
That's
a
pretty
simple
question.
I
mean,
it,
it
could
get
theological,
but
I
just
want
to
know
where
this
guy
is,
guys.
What
I'm
trying
to
find
out,
What
I'm
trying
to
find
out
is
do
I
have
me
an
atheist?
Do
I
have
me
a
little
agnostic
sitting
in
front
of
Maine?
Do
I
have
me
a
guy
that
had
religion
shoved
up
as
you
know
what,
as
a
kid
and
he's
real
grindy
around
the
idea
of
religion.
I
mean,
I
want
to
know
what
I'm
dealing
with
here
so
we
can
know.
Listen,
at
the
center
of
everything
that
we
do,
guys,
if
the
center
of
everything
is
God,
our
program
is
unapologetically
about
God
and
that
relationship.
And
if
that's
a
problem,
it
could
be
a
real
problem.
You
see
what
I'm
saying?
Now
listen,
guys,
I've
worked
with
all
kinds
of
guys.
I've
worked
with
crazy.
I
work
with
men
that
absolutely
hated
God,
but
at
least
it
gives
us
a
place
to
start.
OK.
And
there's
this
they're
they're,
they're
clear
on
this.
Bill
Wilson
knew
this
was
going
to
be
a
problem.
That's
reason
he
wrote
all
that
whole
chapter,
chapter
four.
We
agnostics.
He
wrote
the
whole
thing
because
he
understood
what
a
sensitive
topic
this
was.
And
listen,
if
you're,
if
your
life
is
full
of
drama
and
chaos
around
booze
and
dope,
trust
me,
trust
me,
somewhere
along
the
line,
you've
probably
taken
God
and
set
him
aside
because
you
couldn't
figure
out
a
way
to
put
him
in
the
same
picture
with
the
things
that
you
were
doing.
I
mean,
most
of
us
get
there
like
that
and
I
understand
that.
And
So
what
what
they
were
trying
to
get
us
to
understand.
Let's
look
at
something
real
quick.
If
I
got
my
brand
new
guy
and
we're
talking
to
this
guy
and
he
goes,
uh-huh.
And
he
gives
me
a
little
Readers
Digest
condensed
version
of
where
he
is
theologically
on
this
stuff.
This
normally
takes
10
minutes
in
this
conversation
and
he's
going
to
say
something
like
this.
I,
I'm
OK
with
God
blah,
blah,
blah,
blah,
blah,
or
I
hate
God's
guts,
blah,
blah,
blah,
blah,
blah.
And
but
I
know
where
my
starting
point
is.
You
see
people
say,
well,
we,
we,
we
have
to
read
all
of
we
agnostics.
And
then
we'll
get
I
am
going.
Well,
maybe
not
if
your
guy
already
likes
God,
he's
already
hip
to
the
idea
of
a
higher
power
controlling
what's
going
on
here
like
this.
There's
no
reason
to
waste
the
time.
He's
ready
to
do
this
to
listen.
How
many
of
you
guys
said
in
meetings
for
years
and
heard
people
say
this
stuff?
Well,
I'm
working
on
step
two
and
five
months
later,
well,
I'm
still
working
on
Step
2.
I'm
just
having
trouble
with
SO
don't
do
that.
Don't,
I
mean,
because
the
idea
here
guys,
is
that
I
have
to
have
a
full
formed
idea
of
what
God
is
before
I
can
do
Step
2.
And
it
never
said
that
if
that
was
the
parameter,
if
that
was
the,
the
prerequisite
for
that,
there
was
none
of
us
be
here.
You
see
what
I'm
saying?
I
mean,
none
of
us
would
get
here
yet.
I
mean,
there's,
there's
two
theology
students
in
here
and
they
probably
would
get
it.
The
rest
of
you,
I
mean,
we
just,
we
just
struggle
with
this
stuff
for
a
while.
But
they
were
really
clear
in
the
beginning
of
this
stuff.
Let's
let's
read
something
real
quick.
Let's
do,
let's
do
4,
let's
do
45.
I
just
want
to
skip
across
the
page
from
what
that
stuff
that
we
just
read.
Lack
of
power.
That
was
our
dilemma.
We
had
to
find
a
power
by
which
we
could
live
and
it
had
to
be
a
power
greater
than
ourselves.
So
your
brand
new
guy,
he's
clear
at
this
particular
stage,
at
stage
of
the
game,
that
he
has
no
power
to
keep
himself
sober,
right.
If
you
can
keep
yourself
sober,
you
don't
need
to
be
here.
The
book's
clear
on
this
stuff.
You
don't
need
to
be
here.
If
you're
here
just
because
you
like
the
fellowship.
I
can
suggest
a
number
of
places
that
have
excellent
fellowship
too.
Serious.
I'm
delighted
you're
here.
But
it's
more
than
just
that.
I
mean,
the,
the,
the
treats
one
thing
that
alcoholism
has
lots
of
and
that's
loneliness.
I
understand
why
people
come
and
just
hang.
I'm
not
judging
any
of
that.
I
mean,
that
kind
of
stuff
was
really
important
when
I
first
got
here.
But
if
you
think
that
the
Fellowship
will
treat
your
alcoholism,
man,
man,
man,
doctrinally,
we
need
to,
we
need
to
break
that
stuff
up
and
look
at
it
and
see
kind
of
where
we
are
on
the
thing,
obviously,
but
where
and
how
we
were
going
to
find
this
power.
Well,
that's
exactly
what
this
book
is
about.
Its
main
object
is
to
enable
you
to
find
a
power
greater
than
yourself,
which
will
solve
your
problem
and
then
build
frogs
off
into
this,
this
eloquent
talk
about
about
God.
I
don't
know
about
you
guys,
but
how
cool
is
it
that
this
guy
that
three
years
before
this
thing
was
written
was
a
card
carrying
agnostic?
And
then
three
years
later
he
writes
one
of
the
cleanest,
clearest
theological
pieces
that
you're
ever
going
to
read
that
conflicts
with
no
religion,
that
conflicts
with
nothing
else.
It's
just,
it's
just
pretty,
pretty
amazing
stuff.
Halfway
down
the
page
on
50,
go
over
a
couple
of
pages
on
one
proposition.
However,
these
men
and
women
are
strikingly
agreed.
Every
one
of
them
has
gained
access
to
and
believes
in
a
power
greater
than
themselves.
OK,
now
listen.
And
then
the
power
has
the
has
the
in
each
case
accomplished
the
miraculously,
the
miraculous,
the
human
knee?
Impossible.
Look
at
that
sentence,
guys.
Before
we
move
on,
I
want
to
break
down
this
one
sentence
on
this
thing
because
it's
interesting.
In
sponsorship
land,
this
sentence
gets
to
be
real
interesting.
Every
one
of
them
has
gained
access
to
and
believes
in
a
power
greater
than
themselves.
Listen,
we
can
believe
in
a
power
greater
than
ourselves
and
still
not
have
access
to
that
power,
OK?
It's
important
to
understand
that
this
is
the
reason
why
the
steps
that
we
take
is
so
important.
I
can
believe
that
there's
a
God
and
he
can
still
be.
I
mean,
come
on,
guys.
How
many
of
you
guys
said
in
church
on
Sunday
morning
that
you
were
never
going
to
drink
again?
You
walked
up,
somebody
laid
hands
on
you,
somebody
talked
to
you.
I
mean,
whatever
the
deal
is
like
this
and
by
kickoff
time,
there's
a
12
pack
of
beers
sitting
right
next
to
you.
You
see
what
I'm
saying?
I
bet
I
did
that
1000
times
in
Houston
when
I
lived
in
Houston.
I
mean,
it's
just
like
crazy
crazy
that
we,
we
can,
we
can
believe
in
God
all
we
want
to
the,
the
trick
here
in
the
caveat
here
is
that
we
have
to
figure
out
a
way
to
gain
access
to
that
God.
And
that's
what
that's
what
I,
I,
I
can't
play
God
and,
and
draw
near
to
God
at
the
same
time.
I've
got
to
figure
out
some
way
to
get
clear
of
all
that
stuff.
And
that's
the
stuff
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
in
the
early
part
of
the
afternoon.
How
do
we
get
clear
of
all
of
the
stuff
that
keeps
blocking
me
from
that
sunlight
of
the
spirit?
And
believe
me,
there's
a
ton
of
it.
And
unfortunately,
talking
about
things
won't
remove
it.
There
are
other
things
that
we
must
do
in
order
to
get
like
that.
Just
for
the
fun
of
it,
let
me
point
out
one
thing.
On
page
50,
Count
em.
Not
now,
but
sometime
when
you're
just
marketing
your
book.
Power
is
mentioned
six
times.
Lack
of
power
is
my
dilemma.
I
don't
have
the
ability
to
not
start
drinking
again.
At
some
stage
in
the
game,
untreated
alcoholism
is
going
to
rear
its
head,
and
I'm
going
to
find
myself
in
such
an
uncomfortable
position
that
I
have
two
choices.
Kill
myself
or
drink.
That's
a
horrible,
horrible
place
to
be,
but
that's
what
they
keep
telling
me.
This
power
that
we're
seeking
is
the
power
that
connects
up
and
deals
with
that
insane
idea
that
comes
into
my
head
that
perhaps
I
was
just
making,
you
know,
maybe,
maybe
a
bad,
bad
decision
or
two
that
maybe
I
just
rushed
into
this
deal.
I
mean,
how
many
times
guys,
have
you
have
you
told
your
loved
ones
that
you
were
never
going
to
drink
again?
I
listen,
I'm
a
48
hour
wonder
for
48
hours.
I
can
stay
clear
of
anything.
I
promise
you
I
can
have
resolve.
I'll
clean
up
pretty
good.
I
bounce
back
really
fast.
I
look
pretty
good.
Well,
I
mean,
as
good
as
I
can
look,
I,
I
can
look
better
and,
and
then
and
then
it
all
falls
apart
48
hours
down
the
thing
and
it
always
starts
like
this.
I'm
not
going
to,
I'm
not
going
to
drink
again.
I'm
not
going
to
drink
again.
And
then
by
like
noon,
I'm
going,
well,
maybe,
well,
maybe
I'm
just
going
to,
I
can
change
my
mind.
Maybe
I
just
rushed
into
this
deal.
You
see
what
I'm
saying?
The
funny
part
about
it
is
guys,
is
that
we
don't
ever
connect
up
that
maybe
our
mind
was
changed
for
us.
And
once
we
do,
that's
the
scary
part.
That's
the
part
that
always
terrorizes
me
when
I
finally
understood
that,
that
I'm
not
making
the
decision
to
drink.
Let
me
let
me
ask
you,
how
many
of
you
guys,
you
remember
the
story
about
the
the
cats
in
the
Bible
that
were
signing
their
name
in
a
Bible
with
blood?
I
can't
remember
whether
it
was
Bill
or
Bob
that
that
that
signed
his
name
in
their
family
Bible
that
he
wasn't
going
to
do
it
again.
Did
you
think
that
they
were
making
this
up
or
do
you
think
that
they
were
just
playing
games
with
Anne
or
Loyce
about
this
thing?
Huh.
Let
me
make
it
personal.
How
many
of
you
guys
told
your
family
crying
sitting
at
your
kitchen
table
that
you
were
never
going
to
drink
again?
Laughter.
And
yeah,
everywhere
I
go,
it's
exactly
the
same
thing.
Me
too.
Me
too.
I
meant
what
I
said,
and
yet
what
did
I
find
myself
doing
later?
Drinking,
you
see,
I
got,
I
got
in
a,
in
a,
in
a
deal
in
Houston
one
year
when
I,
when
I
was
a
kid
and
I
got,
got
raped
in
a
jail
cell
And,
and
it,
it,
it
was
a,
it
was
a,
a
goofy,
it
messed
me
up
like
nothing
you've
ever
seen
in
your
whole
life.
And
I
remember
getting
home
and
I
was
sitting
there
and
my,
my,
about
12
hours
after
I
got
out
of
jail,
I'm
sitting
at
the
kitchen
table
and
I
got
a
beer
bottle
sitting
in
front
of
me.
And
my
wife
walks
in
and
she
goes,
what?
What
the
hell?
What
do
you,
what
are
you
doing?
And
I
said,
well,
I
don't
know.
And
she
said,
I
mean,
this
is
what
got
you
in
this
mess
in
the
1st
place.
What
are
you
doing?
And
I
go,
I
just
don't
know.
I
guess
you
understand
what
I'm
saying.
And
I'm
fighting
for
my
life
trying
to
figure
out
why
I
would
do
something
so
stupid.
I'm
drunk
in
a
drunk
tank
and
I
get
raped
and,
and,
and,
and
now
I'm,
I'm
back
doing
this
again
12
hours
later.
You
see,
I
mean,
this
is
this
is
the
craziest,
but
this
is
the
stuff
that
we
have
to
realize,
guys,
if
you
can
make
the
decision
on
your
own
that
you
can
stop.
You're
not
one
of
us.
Go
read
page
34
it.
You
ain't
one
of
us.
And
that's
OK.
I
love
you
anyway.
But
I'm
telling
you
right
now,
if
you
find
that
you
follow
this
same
scenario
just
like
me,
and
you
find
yourself
in
a
situation
where
you
keep
going
back
and
keep
going
back
and
keep
going
back
even
when
you
tell
people
that
you
love.
I
heard
this
lady
say,
well,
you
know,
drunks
always
lie
about
that
kind
of
stuff.
Screw
you.
And
if
you're
thinking
that
screw
you,
that's
crap
to
think
that
because
I
guarantee
you,
I
know
enough
of
you
and
I
know
your
stories
and
I
know
that
when
you
told
your
loved
ones
that
you
weren't
ever
going
to
drink
again,
that
you
meant
it.
So
what
kind
of
insanity
made
you
drink?
Well,
insanity
that
centers
around
lack
of
power.
And
that's
the
reason
why
this
idea,
this
concept
that
we
were
going
to
let
something
else
deal
with
this
is
both
novel
and
effective.
Sometime
I
can't
even
hardly
explain
it.
Sometimes,
I
mean,
it's
just
like
one
of
these
kind
of
things
that
I'm
just
going,
I
don't
know,
logistically.
I
mean,
logistically,
I
can't
make
it
line
up.
Wait
a
minute,
this
guy
that
I
just
barely
understand
that's
out
there
is
going
to
save
my
bacon?
Uh-huh.
Could
be
a
hard
sell,
but
the
pain
will
keep
them
here
until
the
experience
happens.
The
pain
will
get
them
here
and
force
them
to
do
the
things
that's
necessary
to
do.
We,
we're,
we're
clear
on
that
stuff.
One
more
real
quick
thing.
And
then
this,
this,
this
second
step
stuff.
I'm
going
to
let
John
slide
into
step
three
stuff.
He
started
talking
about
that
stuff
on
page
52.
Earlier
he
mentioned
the
bedevilments
on
this
deal.
Guys,
there's
one
more
point
that
I
want
to
make
and
I
think
it's
important
to
understand.
If
if
booze
is
my
is
my
problem,
then
the
solution
is
always
just
stop
drinking,
right?
If,
if
that's
the
problem,
all
I
need
to
do
is
take
the
booze
out
of
the
picture
and
I'm
going
to
get
better.
And
for
the
normal
everyday
rank
and
file
heavy
drinker
that
the
book
describes
in
two
different
places
like
this,
that's
OK.
You
would
get
the
booze
out
of
the
thing.
Everything
gets
better.
You,
you,
you
drank
with
people
just
like
that
who
were
able
to
do
that.
They
got
married
and
they
said,
you
know
what?
I
just
don't
drink
anymore.
No
kid.
And
this
is
the
guy
that
fell
off
the
same
bar
stools
you
did,
caused
the
same
kind
of
commotion
you
did,
but
they
were
able
to
do
that
kind
of
stuff.
Let
me
as
a
as
an
aside,
every
one
of
us
has
an
Uncle
Joe
in
our
in
our
past
that
could
do
this
exact
same
thing.
It's
family
legend.
Oh,
Uncle
Joe,
he
was
a
real
alcoholic.
And
one
day
he
just
stopped.
I
would
question
Uncle
Joe's
alcoholism.
I
would.
If
you
can
make
the
decision
and
just
stop
on
your
own,
I
would
question
that.
The
text
is
real
clear
on
it.
If
you
want
to
read
it,
I'll
show
you
where
it
is.
So
what
this
brings
us
to
is
a
situation
where,
I
mean,
why
is
it
that's
that
that
as
we,
as
we
get
downrange
from
our
last
drink
for
the
real
drunk
or
the
real
little
dope
Fen
that
follows
this
path,
what
happens?
And
why
is
it
that
as
we
read
this
stuff
on
page
52,
we
find
ourselves
agreeing
with
this?
Why
is
it
that
our
life
unravels
the
farther
we
are
away
from
our
last
drink?
And
you
got
to
ask
yourself
the
question,
guys,
I
got
to
tell
you,
between
me
and
you,
getting
drunk
today
doesn't.
I
don't
even
think
about
it.
It's,
it's
been
so
long
since
I
thought
about
being
drunk.
It's
not
even
something
that's
on
the
horizon
for
me,
however
often
I
think
about
this
stuff.
On
page
52,
the
bedevilments
in
the
center,
we
had
to
ask
ourselves
why
we
shouldn't
apply
our
human
problems
to
the
same
readiness
to
change
our
point
of
view.
We
were
having
trouble
with
personal
relationships.
Yeah,
I
was.
We
couldn't
control
our
emotional
natures.
We
were
prayed
a
misery
and
depression.
We
couldn't
make
a
living.
We
had
a
we
had
a
feeling
of
uselessness.
We
were
full
of
fear.
We
were
unhappy.
We
couldn't
seem
to
be
a
real
help
to
other
people.
Guys,
how
many
of
you
have
had
those
feelings
in
AAA?
Yeah,
lots
of
us
have.
I
mean,
this
is
this
is
This
is
why
so
many
of
the
drama
around
those
questions
right
there.
I
mean,
come
on.
I
mean,
I'm
a
card
carrying
member
of
that
club.
I
mean,
I'm
just,
I
just
I'm
sober
that
when
I
got
to
to
Cliff
Bishop,
I'm
sober
almost
seven
years
or
dry
for
almost
seven
years.
I've
talked
to
a
couple
of
you
in
here
since
I've
been
here
that
are
exactly
the
same
way.
We
didn't
drink
and
yet
our
lives
are
unraveling
around
this
bedevilment
situation.
And
if
you
can't
address
this
through
Step
2
stuff,
then
you're
going
to
be
in
trouble.
I
mean,
you
just,
this
is
the
specific
reason
why
so
many
other
other
ways
to
quit
drinking
fail
because
they
address
the
booze
issue.
But
the
real
alcoholic
unravels
and
gets
worse
the
farther
he
gets
away
from
the
booze.
You
see,
This
is
why
why
why
it
gets
so
so,
so
wheels
off
ugly
for
so
many
of
us
and
think
one
more
thing.
I'm
done.
Scout's
honor.
Step
two
came
to
believe
that
a
power
greater
than
ourselves
could
restore
us
to
sanity.
Listen,
if
they
ever
rewrite
the
big
book,
and
I
hope
that
they
come
and
say,
Myers,
how
would
you
rewrite
that
step?
Listen,
if
they
had
asked
me,
I'd
have
said,
let's
see.
Came
to
believe
that
a
power
greater
than
ourselves
could
restore
us.
Let's
see
could
maybe
take
away
the
the,
the
desire
to
drink.
You
see,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
I'm
trying
to
move
everything
around
booze.
And
Bill
Wilson,
as
quickly
as
he
could,
took
us
out
of
that
idea
that
this
was
about
booze
and
moved
us
over
to
this
camp
which
talked
about
what
sanity.
Because
I'm
telling
you
right
now,
based
on
your
life
that
I
understand
the
life
that
you
lived,
the
fact
that
you
would
go
back
and
drink
or
drug
again,
you're
insane.
You're
as
insane
as
me
and
your
family
thinks
you
are.
Your
therapist
think
you
are,
your
pastor
thinks
you
are.
Everybody
that
knows
you
thinks
that
you're
insane,
you're
a
nut
job
for
doing
what
you
do,
and
they're
closer
to
the
truth
than
any
of
us
want
to
admit.
It's
pretty
amazing
stuff.
This
is
the
reason
why
when
they
start
this
talk
about
Step
2
and
we
agnostics,
they
initially
introduce
us
to
the
idea
of
lack
of
power.
If
I
had
the
power
to
deal
with
this
insanity,
I'd
be
OK,
I
could
deal
with
this
stuff.
The
problem
is,
is
that
the
booze
becomes
the
secondary
issue,
and
the
foremost
issue
becomes
how
do
we
deal
with
the
head
that
won't
let
me
renew,
won't
let
me
recognize
that
I'm
in
trouble.
How?
How?
OK,
John
Boy,
rock
on.