Pollock Pines, CA
One
of
the
best
ways
to
do
that
I
got
from
my
sponsor,
he
says
he
didn't
get.
He
just
said
I'll
be
your
temporary
sponsor.
If
you
find
somebody
better
boy
that
gives
them
freedom,
they
could
leave
if
they
want
to.
Most
of
my
state
I
stayed
after
he
told
me
to
get
a
new
sponsor
after
he
got
sick
and
went
to
Kentucky.
I
wouldn't
leave.
Hell,
I'll
just
call
him
on
the
phone.
Small
portion.
I
would
pay
a
lot
more
of
that
to
bark.
And
it
turned
out
nice
because
he
came
all
alone.
He
got
sick
and
he
couldn't
go
to
a
a
meetings
in
the
veteran
hospital
in
a
strange
place.
It
was
one
of
his
great
plans.
His
plan
was
he
was
he
was
ill.
And
he
thought
the
way
to
do
this
is
he'd
gotten
his
job.
He'd
been
working
for
the
post
office
for
years.
And
so
he
was
going
to
take
his
wife
to
Kentucky
to
live
with
her
sister
after
he
died.
That
was
the
idea
and
she
died
before
him.
His
brother-in-law
helped
him
get
into
the
veterans
hospital
and
that's
where
he'd
act.
And
I
call
that
line
and
several
other
guys
kept
calling
that
line
that
he
was
sponsored
to,
and
he
could
no
longer
drive
and
he
couldn't
get
out
and
couldn't
get
the
meetings.
And
you
might
say
we
had
our
meetings
on
the
phone
and
we
let
him
know
our
project,
how
we're
doing,
that
we're
doing
good
doing
all.
One
day
I
made
that
calling.
Didn't
get
no
answer.
Saddam
Sadness
in
addition
to
these
casual
get
the
guns
that
come
customary
to
set
apart
one
night
a
week
for
a
meeting
to
be
attended
by
anyone
or
everyone
interested
in
a
spiritual
way
of
life
that
is
the
foundation
of
open
meeting.
What
is
an
open
meeting?
I
gave
you
a
piece
of
paper
from
New
York
that
tells
you
the
difference
between
open
and
closed
meetings.
Sometimes
we
call
them
open
meetings
and
we
close
them.
It's
just
really
funny.
The
faces
of
an
open
meeting
interested
in
a
spiritual
way
of
life.
That
was
the
only
condition.
It
goes
on
to
say
outsiders
became
interested.
One
one
man
and
his
wife,
T
Henry
and
Clarice
Williams,
the
rocker
group
members.
He's
a
multi
millionaire.
He
was
an
engineer.
He
designed
the
tread
on
the
tires
and
every
tire
that
went
out
of
there,
he
got
a
piece
of
the
action.
A
lot
of
money
place
their
their
large
home
and
dispose
of
the
strange
assorted
group.
This
couple
has
since
become
so
fascinated
that
they
dedicated
their
home
to
the
work.
Many
a
distracted
wife
has
visited
this
house
to
find
loving
and
understanding
companionship
among
women
who
knew
her
problem
and
heard
for
the
lips
of
their
husband
that
what
had
happened
to
them
to
be
advised
on
how
her
own
wayward
mate
might
be
hospitalized
and
approached
the
next
he
stumbled
a
plan
of
action.
I
want
to
back
up
for
a
second
and
go
back
to
159
on
the
bottom.
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
few
names
of
some
of
those
people
that
were
there
in
those
days
just
for
that.
Phil
Smith
still
didn't
make
it
call
in.
He
never
got
oxidized.
They
called
it
named
Walter
Bray.
Walter
Bray
is
the
guy
they
talking
to
1212
according
to
young
Smith,
who
was
duly
addicted.
And
when
they
get
him
off
the
booze,
he'd
go
down
to
the
to
the
drugstore
and
those
dies
he
could
buy
business
a
Paraguay.
It
has
opium
in
it
and
a
lot
of
alcohol
and
you
could
buy
that
directly
across
the
counter
without
prescription.
So
he'd
just
slide
over
into
that
apparel.
Grissom,
Ed
Andy,
Ed
Andy
is
supposed
to
be
the
oldest
member
in
years
and
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
He
got
sober
in
the
Oxford
Group
and
probably
counts
as
a
body
time
from
that
time,
Junior
said.
If
it
had,
his
sobriety
date
is
what
he
says
it
is.
He
was
sitting
on
the
porch
waiting
for
Bob
and
Bill
to
come
home
when
they
met.
But
he's
forgotten
that
you
could.
He
was
a
member
of
the
Oscars
group
and
wasn't
drinking
there.
Paul
J
Stanley
of
The
Stanley
Brothers
man
named
Joseph
Doppler.
He
was
a
European
in
the
furniture
poster.
Robert
Olivetti.
These
people
all
made
it.
JD
Holmes.
These
people
have
long
forgotten,
were
famous
in
their
days,
famous
alcohol
and
Harold
Spencer,
famous
people.
So
we've
read
that
and
now
we're
on
160.
I
just
thought
I'd
give
those
to
you.
Pretty
interesting,
that
kind
of
stuff.
Many
a
man,
yet
dazed
from
his
hospital
experience
that
stepped
over
the
specials
of
that
home
into
freedom.
Many
an
alcoholic
who
entered
there
came
away
with
an
answer.
He
succumbed
to
the
gay
crowd
inside
whose
lacquered
their
own
misfortune.
Understood
his
impressed
for
those
who
visited
him
at
the
hospital.
He
capitulated
means
he
surrendered
when
later
in
an
upper
room
of
this
house,
he
heard
the
story
of
some
man
who's
experienced
closely
tallied
with
his
own.
They
used
to
take
him
upstairs
for
the
third
step,
and
they
used
to
stand
around
and
kind
of
vote
on
whether
he
did
it
right
or
not.
And
they'd
make
you
do
it
again.
Yeah.
Expression
on
the
face
of
these
men
that
simply
something
in
their
eyes
of
the
men.
The
stimulating
electric
atmosphere
of
the
place
conspired
to
let
him
know
that
there
was
a
haven
at
last.
The
very
practical
approach
to
this,
his
problems,
the
absence
of
intolerance
of
any
kind.
Hmm,
that's
a
great
line.
I
love
you
no
matter
what
you
do
or
what
you
say.
I
cannot
practice
intolerance
with
If
you've
got
an
inventory
looks
like
mine,
there's
no
way
that
I
can
talk
about
you.
The
informality,
the
genuine
democracy,
the
uncanny
understanding
which
these
people
had
were
resisted.
It
was
never
intended
in
a
A
that
any
group
would
have
power
over
another
group.
It
was
never
intended
in
a
A
that
any
human
being
would
have
power
over
another
human
being.
Yet
we
have
people
that
want
to
do
that.
He
and
his
wife
would
leave,
elated
by
the
thought
of
what
they
had
could
now
do
for
the
stricken
acquaintance.
Stricken
acquaintances
at
his
family.
They
knew
they
had
a
host
of
new
friends.
It
seemed
that
they
were.
They
had
known
these
strangers
always.
They
had
seen
miracles
and
one
was
come
to
them.
A
lot
of
people
say
wait
for
your
miracle,
never
don't
leave.
Wait
for
your
miracle
to
show
up.
They
had
visions
of
great
reality,
visions
of
God,
great
reality
of
God.
They're
loving
in
all
powerful
creator.
Now
this
house
is
hardly
accommodated.
Weekly
visitors
from
the
number
of
60
to
80
as
a
rule
from
surrounding
towns.
Families
driven
long
distance
to
be
present.
The
community
30
miles
away
has
15
fellows
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Cleveland,
OH
Being
a
large
place,
we
think
that
someday
it's
fellowship
for
a
number
of
many
hundreds.
Mr.
Clarence
Snyder
sponsored
100
people
went
to
Florida
fence
eventually.
But
life
among
the
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
more
than
attending
gatherings
and
visiting
hospitals,
cleaning
up
old
stripes,
helping
to
settle
family
differences
to
wives
into
families,
talking
to
them
about
the
disease.
Explain
the
disinherited
son
to
his
irate
parents.
Lending
money,
securing
jobs
for
each
other
when
justified.
These
are
everyday
occurrences,
every
day.
Every
day
I
keep
a
little
pop.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
money,
but
I
save
a
little
bit,
$200.00
that
I
can
help
a
guy
sometimes
God
helps
me
help
them.
I
had
a
guy
that
needed
a
truck
and
one
of
my
old
timers
that
I
sponsored,
35
years
sober
that
I'm
going
to
Arabia.
I've
got
an
old
truck.
I'd
like
to
have
about
$100
for
it.
Do
you
know
anybody
needs
a
good
truck?
He
said.
I
said,
do
I?
The
guy
we're
just
talking
about
yesterday,
that's
how
things
come
to
me.
These
are
everyday
occurrences.
No
one
get
this
line.
It's
too
discredited
or
sunk
too
low
to
be
welcome
cordially.
And
here's
the
condition.
If
he
means
business
1st
edition,
we
can
ask
a
man
to
leave
the
meeting
if
he's
interfering
with
the
message.
So
we
always
say,
keep
telling
that
sometimes
it
takes
more
than
one
of
us
to
put
him
out
of
the
room.
Social
distinction,
federal
rivalries
and
jealousies.
These
are
laughed
out
of
continents
being
wrecked
in
the
same
vessel.
Step
one
being
restored.
Step
2.
And
united
under
one
God,
three
through
9.
Now
you
can
think
about
that
line
for
a
little
while.
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
it
that
deep.
That's
for
you
to
decide
under
one
God,
with
hearts
and
minds
attuned
to
the
welfare
of
others.
10:11
and
12:00.
The
things
which
matter
so
much
to
some
people
no
longer
signify
much
to
them.
How
could
they
under
only
slightly
different
conditions?
The
same
thing
is
taking
place
in
many
eastern
cities.
In
one,
there's
well
known
hospital
called
towns
for
the
Treatment
of
Alcoholics
and
Drug
Addiction.
Six
years
ago,
one
of
our
members
was
a
patient
there.
Bill
Wilson.
Many
of
us
have
felt
for
the
first
time
the
presence
of
the
power
of
God
within
its
walls.
Doctor
Selfworth
We're
greatly
indebted
to
the
doctor
in
attendance
there
for
he,
although
at
night
presents
his
own
work,
has
told
us
it
is
a
belief
in
our
that's
pretty
big
for
a
scientific
mind.
Every
few
days
this
doctor
suggests
our
approach
to
one
of
his
patients,
understanding
our
work.
He
can
do
this
without
selecting
those
who
are
willing
and
able
to
recover
on
a
spiritual
basis.
Many
of
us
former
patients
go
there
to
help.
Then
in
this
eastern
city
there
are
formal
meetings
such
as
we
have
described
you,
where
you
may
now
see
scores
of
members.
They
are
the
same
fast
friendships.
There
is
the
same
helpfulness
to
one
another
as
you
find
among
our
Western
friends.
There
is
a
good
bit
of
travel
between
East
and
West.
We
foresee
a
great
increase
in
this
helpful
exchange
interchange.
The
conventions
that
were
started
in
the
early
days
had
more
of
a
purpose
than
for
entertainment.
People
would
come
from
east
to
West,
north
to
South,
to
the
conventions
and
the
coffee
room.
They
would
sit
down
and
they
would
talk
to
each
other
about
their
experiences
and
problems
within
their
groups,
and
they
would
exchange
information.
Does
that
make
sense
to
you?
That's
what
he's
talking
about
here.
A
lot
of
helpfulness
in
the
interchange.
You
still
see
that
sometimes.
Not
much
today,
but
you
still
see
it
sometimes.
Someday
we
hope
that
every
alcoholic
whose
journey
will
find
a
fellowship
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
at
his
destination.
To
some
extent
this
is
already
true.
Some
of
us
are
salesman
and
go
about
little
pluses
of
two
and
threes
and
fives
as
often
sprung
up
in
other
communities.
That's
right.
That's
how
we
grew.
The
whole
Eastern
seaboard
was
was
basically
done
by
traveling
salesman
and
they
would
call
up
to
the
New
York
office
every
day
and
they
say,
is
there
anyone
to
call
on
in
Saint
Louis?
I'm
going
to
be
in
Saint
Louis
in
the
morning
and
I
will
call
them
and
make
arrangements
to
meet
with
them
and
they
would
sit
down
and
talk
about
how
they
started
meetings
and
talk
about
the
spiritual
program
of
life
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
Now,
the
A
A
in
New
York
was
a
little
different.
They
had
gone
fellowship.
They
thought
more
dancers
would
do
it
and
they
it
didn't
work
out
through.
Will
Bill
Bill
write
some
letters
about
that?
So
they
went
back
the
other
way.
Doctor
Bob
was
having
twice
as
much
successor.
Bill
was
so
he
said,
through
contact
with
two
larger
sinners.
Those
of
us
accurate
in
New
York.
Those
of
us
have
traveled
drop
in
as
often
as
we
can.
This
practical
enable
us
to
to
lend
a
hand
at
the
same
time
avoiding
certain
alluring
distractions
of
the
road
about
which
any
traveling
salesman
can
inform
you.
Cersei
Whaley,
who
died
here
a
little
couple
years
ago,
over
a
long,
long
time,
he
had
a
meeting
there
annually,
once
a
year
called
the
Gathering
of
the
Eagles.
And
you're
supposed
to
have
40
years
to
go
to
the
meeting.
He
invited
me
to
come,
but
I
was
on
a
we're
going
to
interview
me
and
he
got
sick
and
died.
I'm
supposed
to
do
that.
I
had
a
lot
of
talks
on
the
phone.
Great
guy.
He
said
that
from
Dallas
to
Los
Angeles
it
was
not
a
meeting
of
a
A
when
he
came
in
and
that
in
Texas
they
would
get
in
a
car
and
drive
300
miles
to
support
the
start
of
a
meeting.
How
important
it
felt.
It
was
a
long
way.
Few
hours
of
what
does
that
be?
About
6
hours
there,
six
hours
back,
a
couple
hours
at
the
meeting.
Thus
we
grow.
And
so
can
you,
though
you
be
but
one
man
with
this
book
in
your
hand.
What
do
you
need?
That's
what
I
love
about
A
A
What
do
you
need
here
to
do
whatever
you
got
to
do
with
people?
One
man,
one
woman
with
a
book
in
your
hand,
that's
all
you
need.
The
directions,
conditions
and
promises
and
the
outlight
experience
of
these
people
are
already
here
for
you.
All
you
gotta
do
is
follow
it
and
so
many
people
think
they
can
make
it
better.
We
believe
it
and
hope
it
contains
all
you
will
need
to
begin.
We
know
what
you're
thinking.
You're
saying
to
yourself,
I'm
jittery
and
alone.
I
couldn't
do
that.
But
you
can
you
forget
that
you
have
just
now
tapped
the
source
of
power
much
greater
than
yourself
to
duplicate
with
such
backing.
What
we
have
accomplished
is
only
a
matter
of
willingness,
patience
and
labor.
I
like
that.
That's
all.
Of
course,
we
walk
in
today
and
we
walk
into
meetings
that
have
been
established.
Some
of
someone
said
there
was
a
meet
65
years
old
around
here
somewhere.
We
walk
into
these
knees
that
long
established
our
founders
here
and
we
just
take
them
as
just
like,
well,
that's
the
way
it
is.
You
know,
I
mean,
isn't
this
nice?
It
will
mean,
you
know,
we
know
a
a
member
who
was
living
in
a
large
community
and
they
had
lived
there
for
a
few
weeks
when
he
found
it,
that
the
place
probably
contained
more
Alcoholics
per
square
mile
city
in
the
country.
His
name
was
Clarence
Snyder.
We
think
there
was
only
a
few
days
ago
at
this
riding
1939.
The
authorities
were
much
concerned.
He
got
in
touch
with
the
prominent
psychiatrist
who
had
undertaken
certain
responsibilities
for
mental
health
of
the
community.
His
name
was
Doctor
Howard
Montclair.
Give
you
some
names.
Now,
you're
not
going
to
find
just
real
easy,
Doctor
Howard
Montclair.
The
doctor
proved
to
be
able
and
exceedingly
anxious
to
adopt
any
workable
method
of
handling
the
situation.
So
he
inquired,
what
did
our
friend
have
on
the
ball?
Our
friend
proceeded
to
tell
him
and
with
such
good
effect
that
the
doctor
agreed
to
test
among
his
patients
and
certain
other
Alcoholics
from
a
clinic
which
he
attended.
Arrangements
are
also
made
with
the
chief
psychiatrist
of
a
of
a
large
public
hospital.
That
guys
name
was
Doctor
Russell
Blaisdell
and
it's
the
Greystone
Rockwell
Asylum.
Let
me
show
you
what
a
group
conference
used
to
look
like
Before
we
had
H
and
I
and
some
other
things.
The
group
would
decide
within
themselves
what
God
would
have
that
group
do.
They
decided
that
what
God
would
have
them
do
was
go
into
the
insane
cycle.
In
order
to
do
that,
they
had
to
see
Doctor
Russell
Blaisdell.
And
so
they
sent
some
people
in
to
see,
they
prayed
about
it,
they
meditated
about
it
together.
I'm
a
great
believer.
When
you
want
to
change
something
spiritually
in
this
program,
you
need
it
takes
2/3
of
worldwide
voting
the
basic
text,
but
when
you're
making
spiritual
decisions
in
your
group,
you
need
to
have
prayer
and
meditation
together.
Don't
run
off
home
and
come
back
and
vote.
Voting
is
fine.
You
want
to
know
about
coffee?
What
kind
of
coffee
boat?
You
want
to
know
what
kind
of
candy
you're
eating
though?
Don't
take
a
good
content
because
it's
not
a
group
conference
to
vote.
You
take
group
consciousness
when
you
want
something
to
happen
spiritually
in
your
meeting.
Something
too
different.
In
this
case,
it
took
the
food
conference
with
prayer
and
meditation
on
their
knees
and
they
ask
God
as
a
group
what
they
could
do
and
they
went
into
Rockwell
and
I'm
telling
you
what
happened
still
others
from
the
stream
of
misery
which
flowed
through
that
institution.
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
been
locked
up
in
a
mental
institution
and
you're
hopeless
and
and
you
just
can't
seem
to
get
help.
And
every
time
you
get
a
start,
you
fall
down
and
they
got
you
in
there
and
you
mixed
it
with
other
people.
They
have
other
kind
of
problems
and
it's
horrible.
And
here
comes
some
guy
from
A
A
you
know
that
they
allowed
to
come
to
the
hospital.
San
Quentin
was
the
1st
place
warden,
Deputy
was
the
1st
place
to
Edison
prison.
There's
a
guy
who's
been
the
have
a
guy
that
is
a
non
alcoholic
who
speaks
around
at
a
a
things
who's
the
head
of
all
the
California
institutions
lock
up
sales
prison,
he
said.
A
a
frees
more
people
from
prison
than
anything
else
they
have.
And
the
recidivism
rate
for
those
that
have
a
program
is
very
low.
And
they
got
it
all
over
there.
So
our
fellow
workers
will
soon
have
friends
at
the
Lord.
Some
of
them
may
sink
and
perhaps
never
get
up.
That's
part
of
the
struggle
here.
There's
nothing
sadder
than
to
lose
one.
I
shed
tears.
Old
em
all
time,
he
said.
But
if
our
experience
is
a
criteria,
more
than
half
of
those
approach
will
become
fellows
of
Alcoholics,
and
not
more
than
half.
What
an
increase
50%.
With
a
few
men
in
the
cities
have
found
that
ourselves,
we
have
discovered
the
joy
of
helping
others
to
face
life
again.
That
is
a
joy.
I'd
love
to
see
that
happen.
I'd
love
to
see
families
restored.
I
love
to
see
children
come
to
my
house
and
laugh
and
giggle.
I
love
to
see
children
hug
my
leg
and
they
call
me
Grandpa
Brown.
The
only.
All
they
know
about
me
is
what
their
daddy
and
Mama
said.
We
used
to
throw
big
parties
at
the
house
when
we
were
young.
We're
getting
a
little,
I
guess.
I
don't
know
what
it's
allowed.
We've
had
a
lot
of
problems,
but
there
will
be
no
stopping
till
everyone
in
that
town
has
the
opportunity
to
recover.
If
you
can
and
will
still,
you
may
say,
but
I
will
not
have
the
benefit
of
the
contact
with
you
who've
written
this
book.
We
cannot
be
sure.
God
will
determine
that,
so
you
must
remember
that
your
real
reliance
is
always
upon
Him.
I
don't
care
what
New
York
says.
Reliance
is
upon
the
past.
I
certainly
take
listen
to
them
and
do
all
the
things
useful.
I
write
them
letters
now
and
then.
They
write,
I
call
them,
they
call
back.
It
will
show
you
how
to
create
the
fellowship
you
crave.
God
relationships
with
God.
That's
my
fellowship
I
praise.
Our
book
is
meant
to
be
suggestive.
Only
we
realize
we
know
only
a
little
promises.
God
will
constantly
disclose
more
to
you
and
to
us
in
addition
and
a
direction.
Ask
Him
in
your
morning
meditation
what
you
can
do
each
day
for
the
man
who
is
still
sick.
The
answer
will
come.
Here
is
your
condition.
If
your
own
house
is
in
order.
I
gotta
be
spiritually
fixed,
but
obviously
you
cannot
transmit
something
you
haven't
got.
Franklin
Williams,
an
old
timer,
used
to
say
you
can't
transmit
something
you
haven't
got,
no
more
than
you
can
come
back
or
who
you
haven't
been.
And
you
have
to
be
a
Southerner
to
understand
that.
See
to
it
that
your
relationship
with
Him
is
right
and
great
events
will
come
to
pass
for
you
and
countless
others,
she
promises.
Now
I
relate,
even
fit
spiritual
condition
and
see
what
happens.
This
is
the
great
fact
for
us.
This
is
a
fact.
Abandon
yourself
to
God.
Step
to
1-2
and
three
as
you
understand
God,
admit
your
faults
to
him
and
to
your
fellows.
4567,
8:00
and
9:00
Clear
away
the
wreckage
of
your
past
8-9.
Give
freely
of
what
you
find
and
join
us.
10:11
and
12:00.
We
shall
be
with
you
in
the
fellowship
of
the
Spirit,
and
you
will
surely
meet
some
of
us
as
you
tread.
The
word
treads
is
to
walk
with
purpose.
Cortana,
what
they're
talking
about,
we
wrote
a
happy
Destiny.
May
God
bless
you
and
keep
you
until
then.
Mr.
Wilson
leaves
you
exactly
where
he
found
you
in
need
of
a
spiritual
experience
by
the
working
of
the
sex.
God
bless
you.
Thank
you
for
having
me,
Sir.
Hi,
Mike.
I'm
an
alcoholic.
There's
a
couple
of
things
that
came
up
earlier
and
some
discussions
we
had
at
dinner
last
night
and
I
had
some
some
quotes
from
Bill.
There's
a
great
book
that
that
you
can
get,
which
is
conference
approved,
but
it's
The
Language
of
the
Heart,
which
is
a
collection
of
articles
that
Bill
Wilson
wrote
in
the
Grapevine.
And
historically,
the
Grapevine
when
they
started
it
was
to
provide
a
forum
for
the
communication
to
all
the
membership.
But
probably
primarily
it
was
started
to
give
Bill
Wilson
a
form
at
which
he
could
write
the
articles
that
he
wanted
to
write
as
he
was
developing
the
traditions
and
everything
else.
But
it's
a,
it's
a,
it's
a
very
great
book
and
it
shows
the
development
over
the
years
of,
of
Bill
Wilson's
philosophy
between
the
time
or,
or
his
interpretation
between
the
time
of
the
big
book
up
until
the
publishing
in
the
12
by
12
and
then
after
the
12
by
12.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
excerpts
from
that
that
I
thought
were
appropriate
because
we
had
some
questions.
Somebody
talked
about
rules.
I
had
a
couple
people,
you
know,
how
to
come
out
and
really
got
these
groups.
So
we
got
the
rules.
And
sometimes
we
get
caught
up
in
the
rules
in
a
A,
which
is
not
the
case.
There's
a
difference
between
direction.
You
know,
I
want
to
follow
the
directions
that
are
in
the
book,
the
directions
and
the
guidance
that
have
been
given
to
me.
And
so
Bill
wrote
about
rules
in
September
of
1945
in
The
Grapevine.
And
an
excerpt
from
that
says
the
individual
on
the
A
A
is
under
no
human
coercion
is
almost
is
at
almost
perfect
personal
liberty.
The
12
steps
of
our
A
program
are
not
crammed
down
anybody's
throat.
They
are
not
sustained
by
any
human
authority.
Yet
we
powerfully
unite
around
them
because
of
the
truth
they
contain
has
saved
our
lives,
has
opened
the
door
to
a
new
world.
Our
experience
tells
us
these
universal
truths
work.
The
anarchy
of
the
individual
yields
to
their
persuasion.
He
sobers
up
in
his
lead,
little
by
little,
to
complete
agreement
with
our
simple
fundamental.
Ultimately,
these
truths
govern
his
life,
and
he
comes
to
live
under
their
authority,
the
most
powerful
authority
known
that
the
authority
of
his
full
consent
willfully
given.
He
is
ruled
not
by
people,
but
by
principles,
by
truth,
and
as
most
of
us
would
say,
by
God.
He
also
talked
about
emotional
sobriety,
and
we
were
talking
about
it
in
January
1958,
he
said.
Suddenly
I
realized
what
the
matter
was.
My
basic
flaw
had
always
been
dependence,
almost
absolute
dependence
on
people
and
circumstances
to
supply
me
with
prestige,
security
and
the
like.
Failing
to
get
these
things
according
to
my
perfectionist
dreams
and
specifications,
I
had
fought
for
them
and
and
when
defeat
came,
so
did
my
depression.
There
wasn't
a
chance
of
making
the
outgoing
love
of
Saint
Francis
a
workable
and
joyous
way
of
life
until
he's
fatal
and
almost
absolute
dependencies
were
cut
away.
I
found
I
had
to
exert
every
ounce
of
will
in
action
to
cut
off
these
faulty
emotional
dependencies
upon
people,
upon
a
A,
indeed
upon
any
set
of
circumstances
whatsoever.
Then
only
could
I
be
free
to
love
as
Francis
had.
Emotional
and
instinctual
satisfactions
I
saw
were
really
the
extra
dividends
of
having
love,
offering
love,
and
expressing
a
love
appropriate
to
each
each
relation
of
life.
Plainly,
I
could
not
avail
myself
of
God's
love
until
I
was
able
to
offer
it
back
to
Him
by
loving
others
as
He
would
have
me.
And
I
couldn't
possibly
do
that
so
long
as
I
was
victimized
by
false
dependencies.
For
my
dependencies
meant
demand,
a
demand
for
the
possession
and
control
of
the
people
and
conditions
surrounding
me.
Hope
that
answers
a
couple
of
questions
and
don't
threat
questions.
Yeah,
questions
are
nobody
had
any
questions
yet.
Can
we
go
home?
If
I
know,
I'll
tell
you.
If
I
don't
know,
I'll
tell
you.
Ditto,
said
he
had.
I
said
Ditto,
they're
not
going
to
have
any
questions.
That
got
it
all,
you
know?
And
he
said,
Oh,
no,
Got
a
lot
of
questions.
OK
You
ready?
Yeah.
What
are
the
names?
Hey,
this
is
even
on.
There
you
go.
Are
you
kidding?
What
are
the
names
of
the
people
and
the
stories
in
the
back
of
the
3rd
edition?
Their
sobriety
dates
and
what
group
are
they
from?
Well,
the
original
stories
as
they
wrote
the
book
and
they
got
the
people
to
write
them.
The
ones
in
Akron
were
edited
by
a
man
who
got
sober
is
called
He's
a
painter
and
anyway
a
newspaper
guy.
They
picked
him
up
out
of
the
Salvation
Army
and
I'm
filing
back
here.
Let's
start
with
Doctor
Bob
on
the
page
171.
Now
this
you
may
have
to
change
in
your
4th
edition
because
this
is
a
third
edition
book.
4th
edition
people
that
the
changes
that
have
been
made.
I
can
tell
you
a
little
bit.
If
you
want
to
see
what
John
Smith's
signature
looks
like,
I've
got
that.
I'm
a
groupie,
you
know
what
I
mean?
Robert
Holbrook
Smith,
MD
uh,
he's
from
Macon,
Ohio.
He's
data
sobriety
is
16
and
35.
It
could
be
June
17th
of
35.
There's
some
discussion
about
that,
but
I
don't
think
that
a
few
days
is
one
way
or
the
other.
He
was
three
years
and
10
months
as
of
the
1st
edition,
sober.
He
died
in
November
the
16th
of
1950.
He
was
71
years
old.
He
got
sober
at
age
56.
He
probably
helped
more
people.
He
spoke
5
languages
including
hand
signing
German,
Greek,
Latin,
English.
He
was
a
He's
an
only
child
and
his
father
and
mother
of
Judge
and
Mrs.
Walter
Barron.
BERRIN
Smith
is
his
father
and
mother.
He
met
Anne
Ripley
from
Oak
Park,
IL
and
given
the
second
of
1949
is
when
she
died.
She's
a
Wesley
College
graduate
and
they
were
married
17
years
after
they
met.
It
was
a
little
slow
about
joining
this
thing.
He
was
from
a
railroad
family.
Her
daddy
was
a
time
keeper
for
the
railroad,
I
guess
a
mismanagement
position
you
might
call
it.
She
had
an
uncle
who
was
the
president,
one
of
the
railroads,
and
used
to
take
her
around
with
him.
Three
of
her
brothers
made
a
who's
who
of
America.
They
were
unable
to
sell
his
story
mostly
is
in
the
Doctor
Bob
and
the
Good
Old
Time
and
he
tried
to
make
amends
to
those
folks
and
it
never
did
work.
And
there
was
some
kind
of
an
argument
over
the
care
of
her
mother
that
Anne
got
into
with
her
brothers
and
drive.
Bob
talks
about.
He
tried
to
make
amends,
but
it
never
healed.
Through
that
connection.
Doctor
Bob
had
a
contract
out
of
Akron
or
if
the
train
had
a
wreck,
he
was
to
come
to
the
wreck.
They
paid
him
a
a
fee
to
keep
him
on
retaining.
He
was
born
in
1879
and
August
the
8th
of
1879
at
St.
Johnsbury,
Vt,
which
is
about
100
miles
north
of
East
Dorset,
were
built
great
and
born
well.
These
two
guys,
it's
kind
of
odd
stuff
in
just
about
100
miles
away.
So
they
renamed
the
title.
It
was
called
the
Doctors
Nightmare
and
they
renamed
it
what
it
is
today.
It
was
called
Doctor
Bob's
Nightmare
and
then
they
changed
it
to
Doctor's
Nightmare.
I
don't
see
what
the
great
deal
in
changing
that.
He
was
a
member
of
the
Board
of
Trustees
from
11:38
to
10:00
to
49.
So
this
this
guy
was
he
was
also
a
world
champion
bridge
player.
He
was
a
hunter.
He
loved
to
hunt
and
live
off
the
land,
which
is
living
proof
that
you
were
a
man
that
could
go
out
and
make
your
own
ways.
Just
eat
environments,
fish
or
whatever,
you
know?
He
also
played
horseshoes
very,
very
well.
In
fact,
he
did
a
lot
of
things
very
well.
He
could
be
pretty
competitive
guy.
Next
guy's
Bill
Dotson
on
page
182.
Bill
is
from
Akron.
His
data
survived
is
June
26
in
1935.
He
was
20
years,
one
month
as
of
the
2nd
edition.
First.
Funny,
that's
when
his
first
story
shows
up.
He
didn't
rise
on
story.
Bill
Wilson
wrote
it
out
of
a
collection
of
tape
that
he
had
made
or
was
speaking
engagements
that
he
spoke
around
quite
a
bit.
He's
not
too
hard
to
get
most
of
these
people.
I
have
the
CDs
of
them
or
tapes
that
I
that
have
come
my
way
up.
It's
kind
of
interesting
to
hear
the
people
in
the
book.
He
died
September
the
17th
of
1954.
He
served
on
the
City
Council
of
Akron.
He
did
not
drive.
I
told
that
earlier.
There's
kind
of
an
interesting
guy.
He
was
a
delegate
from
Ohio
in
1951
and
served
on
GSC
panel
one.
That's
a,
I
won't
try
to
tell
you
what
that
is,
but
it's
a
way
of
describing
the
panels.
So
he
stayed
sober.
Most
of
the
people
that
were
going
to
deal
with
State
Solar
because
they
took
him
out
of
the
book
if
they
drank
on
some
occasions
had
to
be
shown
page
193.
This
guy
is
a
brother.
His
name
is
Dick
Stanley
and
he's
from
Akron,
OH
and
his
sobriety
date
is
2
of
37.
It
was
called
his
dad
was
an
alcoholic.
His
brother
Paul
comes
into
the
program.
Paul
Stanley
is
a
carfelder.
Brother
Dick
goes
on
to
political
office.
Talks
about
they
were
only
seven
or
eight
before
him
in
Akron
and
his
story
he
was
on
the
board
of
trust
446
to
one
of
53
is
not
in
the
original
manuscript.
The
story
was
called
The
Car
Smashes
in
the
1st
edition
first
printing.
His
brother
Paul
was
brother.
His
brother
was
Truth.
Freed
Me
was
his
story,
and
he
was
the
guy
who
introduced
seances
into
Bill
and
Bob
and
their
wise
lives.
They
had
some
seances
going
on
for
a
little
while.
They
didn't
try
it.
Ruth
Hawks
talked
about
it,
but
nothing
ever
happened
when
she
was
there.
But
they
were
always
talking
about
should've
been
here
last
week.
Dick's
death
came
in
11
of
571950.
Somebody
asked
me
that.
They're
all
dead.
Seplum
I
wouldn't
know
about.
Most
of
them
are,
yeah.
I
knew
more
on
what
you
thought
I
did.
Didn't
get
over
here.
He
thought
he
could
drink
like
a
gentleman.
On
page
210
of
the
3rd
edition,
his
name
is
Abby
Albert
Gorelick.
They
call
him
Abby.
The
Catholic
from
Cleveland
have
a
picture
of
him
and
the
first
Cleveland
meeting
with
Bill
Wilson
there
and
Clarence
Snyder
was
taking
the
picture.
It's
quite
a
story
around
that
when
Clarence
the
Catholic
Church
because
the
Oxford
groups
were
Protestant
organization
that
had
a
confessional
type
of
of
a
process,
at
least
as
far
as
the
Catholics
were
concerned.
The
Catholics
from
Cleveland
were
going
to
excommunicate
the
Catholics
if
they
continued
into
the
going
down
there.
There's
a
great
book
about
Clarence's
life
and
he
ended
up
with
God's
will
by
having
two
brand
new
cars
and
the
depression,
but
nobody
had
a
call
and
he'd
load
these
guys
up
and
take
him
down
there.
And
so
he
and
drive
Bob
had
their
first
argument.
It's
OK
to
argue
with
your
sponsors.
That's
probably
lit
a
whole
fire
now.
But
that's,
you
know,
he
had,
he
argued
with
him
and
talked
about
said,
well,
there's
nothing
we
can
do
about
it.
They'll
just
have
to,
you
know,
and
he
said,
oh,
yes,
we
can.
We'll
start
a
meeting
there
and
we're
going
to
divorce
the
Oxford
Groups
and
we're
going
to
call
ourselves
a
A
taken
at
the
title
of
this
book.
And
so
he
claimed
to
be
the
founder
of
a
A
but
you
got
to
read
carefully
what
he
says.
He
started
the
first
meeting
that
was
called
a
A
That
was
his
claim
to
fail.
Now,
a
lot
of
old
timers
would
disagree
with
that.
And
they
said,
oh,
we
had
a
a
knees
votes
that
we
had
a
a
meetings
at
our
house.
They
just
weren't
called
a
A
at
the
time.
This
guy
says
he
thought
he
could
drink
like
a
gentleman.
His
society
date
is
439,
he's
from
Cleveland.
He
was
1616
years
and
three
months
as
of
the
2nd
edition.
He
had
the
first
meeting
in
his
home
with
a
lawyer.
They
were
losing
the
house,
but
they
managed
to
hang
on
to
it.
He
started
the
principles
of
rotation.
You
know
how
we
rotate
out
of
the
of
the
place.
He's
the
guy
that
founded
that
and
they
got
the
next
secretary
after
a
while
and
that
became
the
model.
A
lot
of
things
in
a
A
just
show
up
how
it
works
showed
up
from
the
mother
group
and
the
earliest
people
in
Southern
California
when
somebody
said
to
a
guy,
how
do
we
start
a
meeting?
And
he
said,
well,
let's
read
page
58
of
this
book
how
it
works
and
that's
how
it
works
started.
It's
nothing
from
on
high
that
came
to
us.
It
just
spread
throughout
the
country.
So
Abby
stays
sober.
He's
a
patent
attorney
that
helps
in
it.
Joe
Dockler,
the
guy
we
talked
about
earlier,
was
his
sponsor.
This
story
was
a
European
drinker.
Later
on,
according
to
Bob
Smith,
Junior
Lemon
suffered
2
on
page
222.
Marty
Mann.
There's
a
lot
known
about
Marty
man.
He
wrote
a
book
about
it.
People
named
the
Browns
wrote
a
book
about.
Great
book,
ought
to
get
it.
Great
book,
great
story.
Marty
died
in
722
of
80.
She
in
a
way,
she
started
the
National
Council
on
Alcoholism.
The
story
really
goes
that
the
Yale
studies
of
alcoholism,
the
summer
studies
run
by
a
guy
named
Gel
Nick
Bruce
Fox.
I
think
the
guy's
name
is
Hazard.
He's
a
he's
a
Irish
doctor.
And
then
they
used
all
the
summer
students
who
were
there
to
to
do
it.
Worldwide
investigation
into
alcoholism
and
generally
became
the
number
one
authority
on
alcoholism
of
his
day.
Many
of
the
early
Alcoholics
of
that
day,
such
as
Cersei,
Whaley
and
a
few
others,
got
to
go
to
that
school
to
get
their
education.
Marty
Mann
was
raised
in
wealth.
Her
daddy
was
the
Co
Seb
director
of
Marshall
Fields.
Huge
department
stores
that
stay.
I
guess
it's
still
there
and
he
had
quite
a
bit
of
money
and
about
3
1/2
million
dollars
and
he
had
a
fallen
out.
He
drank
a
little
and
chased
rumen
little
and
gambled
a
little.
That's
an
understatement,
but
he
had
some
money
which
he's
14
years
old.
She
contracted
TB
and
he
brought
her
down
here
to
Pasadena,
CA
and
there
was
a
stream
of
air
that
ran
through
there
that
equaled
Colorado.
Her
family
was
so
wealthy,
they
just
moved
the
whole
family
out
here
to
be
near
her
and
just
rented
a
mansion
and
they
lived
in
the
area
of
the
town
that
was
very
wealthy.
Her
mother's
family
had
shipping
and
furs
and
there
was
a
trust
set
up.
And
the
father
leaves
has
an
argument.
There's
four
children,
herself,
her
sister,
They
were
both
lesbians
and
there
was
a
set
of
twins,
a
boy
and
a
girl.
And
the
girl
will
marry
one
of
the
guys
that's
at
Tivo's
place.
Eventually
he
will
stay
sober
to
college
educated
young
man
he
works
on.
He
fixed
over
5:00.
I
can
get
into
a
lot
of
this
stuff
whenever.
Go
home
Anyway,
she
she
wrote
three
books,
one
of
them
twice,
and
they
called
it
three
books,
really
wrote
one
twice.
But
femoral
and
alcoholism,
they
were
looking
for
someone
to
carry
the
message,
and
they
chose
her
because
of
her
education
and
deportment
and
clothing.
She
was
raised.
She
never
went
to
public
school
in
her
life.
She
was
always
run
into
Missus
Nick's
something
back
in
Italy,
where
she
was
in
Florida.
What's
the
weather?
The
time
dad
got
done
investing,
gambling,
drinking
and
girls,
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
got
gone
and
investment.
He
loved
gold
mines
and
silver
mines,
and
I
think
anybody
could
probably
got
him
when
he's
drunk
to
invest
in
some.
And
so
he
lost
all
his
money
and
he
abandoned
the
family.
And
then
he
comes
back
and
talks
the
mother
into
breaking
the
trust,
which
is
enough
money
to
take
care
of
them
in
pretty
good
shape.
She
does
that
and
he
believes
that
drive
and
dies.
He
dies
both
Her
dad's
name
was
William
Henry
Mann.
Her
mother's
name
was
Margaret
Deming.
He
was
married
once
to
a
guy
named
Robert
Curtis
Christie,
the
hardest
drinking
man
in
New
Orleans.
You've
met
him
at
a
party,
Doctor
Foster.
By
this
time,
by
the
time
it's
all
over,
she
goes
to
Europe.
She
comes
in
into
a
decorator.
She's
kind
of
hangs
out
there
for
a
while.
She
has
many,
many
problems.
She
eventually
passed
out
at
a
4th
of
July
party
with
a
bunch
of
Americans
that
took
her
up
and
put
her
to
bed.
Wrong
place
for
a
drunk.
Always
leave
him
on
the
floor
and
falls
off
a
balcony
and
breaks
the
jaw
and
just
makes
a
mess
of
herself.
And
a
lady
takes
her
into
Scotland,
a
nurse,
and
keeps
her
out
in
the
place
away
from
the
booze
and
she
heals.
The
time
she
gets
back
to
America
she
is
just
a
mess.
There
isn't
any
money.
She's
now
a
welfare
case
and
she
is
sent
to
a
guy
by
name
of
Foster
Kennedy.
It
was
a
part
of
our
history.
And
he
is
a
psychiatrist
who
has
a
a
ward
for
sick
people
at
Bellevue
Hospital,
and
she's
there
for
six
months.
He
gets
her
transferred
out
to
Blythewood
and
she's
after
15
months
and
during
that
time
she
will
not
just
stay
sober,
she'll
be
in
and
out.
So
and
eventually
they
get
a
book
they
made
the,
they've
made
400
loose
leaf
manuscripts
of
the
IT
was
really
a
sales
tool
for
the
new
book
that
was
coming
out.
And
Doctor
Silk
Tebow
got
one
and
gave
it
to
her.
And
they
had
a
struggle
with
it
because
every
time
she
saw
God,
she
got
mad.
She
thrown
out
the
window
and
they'd
make
her
go
get
it,
you
know,
And
but
eventually
she
will
get
sober
and
she's
put
on
a
train
and
sent
to
New
York.
Gurney
was
the
Grinny
was
the
guy
the
other
guy,
her
friend
there
that
she
made
it
married
her
sister
and
they
you
sent
to
a
train
and
they
they
put
her
on
and
picked
her
up
at
the
other
end.
A
guy
named
Popsy
Mare
met
her
there.
It's
kind
of
interesting
and
took
her
to
her
first
meeting
at
the
Wilson
house
and
there
wasn't
any
other
women
and
she
was
she
went
upstairs
and
cried
and
Boris
had
to
sit
with
her
to
get
her
to
come
back
downstairs.
But
once
she
did,
she
came
back
and
she
loudly
announced
the
grinny
that
they
were
not
alone
anymore.
There
were
people
like
them
and
that
was
so
important
to
her
to
identify
that
there
were
people
like
things.
He
will
stay
so
for
20
years.
She
will
drink
again
at
the
end
of
20
years
and
then
she
begins
to
take
like
a
lot
of
old
timers
used
to
keep
when
they
brought
in.
Ruth
Fox
was
the
one
who
brought
in
the
what's
the
drug
and
makes
you
puke
and
abuse.
She
brought
an
abuse
in
and
so
she
was
making
out
prescriptions
to
her
for
anti
abuse
and
she's
fighting
it
as
she
goes,
quite
older.
Bob
Pearson
is
so
much
fun
to
know
these
people
a
little
bit.
In
the
1970s
when
they
had
the
convention
in
New
Orleans,
I
think
that's
what
it
was.
He
went
and
found
her.
She
would
come
and
drop
out
of
sight
and
he
went
and
found
her
and
talked
her
into
coming.
She's
very
sick
and
talked
her
to
coming
down
and
being
a
feature
speaker
at
the
International
Convention.
He
had
done
so
much
good
that
it
was
just
impossible
to
believe.
And
people
did
not
hold
it
against
her
that
she
drank.
They
gave
her
a
standing
ovation
and
she
drank.
She
died
a
few
weeks
later,
which
is
kind
of
like
Bob
said,
He
I
gave
her
her
last
to
raw.
You
know,
it's
pretty
interesting
stuff.
I
have
one
of
the
stories
interesting,
a
man
named
Brinkley
Smithers
at
five
years
of
of
the
National
Council.
The
Yale
people
said
we're
not
going
to
fund
this
any
longer.
You've
got
to
find
a
way
to
fund
yourself.
A
guy
named
yet
Gardner,
who
was
a
a
recovered
alcoholic
who
never
drank
again,
was
making
a
12
step
call
in
a
hospital
and
he
gets
to
the
hospital
and
the
guy
in
the
bed
was
saying
Brinkley
Smithers.
He
had
no
idea
who
Brinkley
Smithers
is.
And
when
you
go
on
a
12
step
call,
you
don't
know
who
you're
talking
to.
If
you're
down
on
Skid
Row
talk,
you
don't
know
who
you're
talking
to.
A
lot
of
people
on
Skid
Row,
they
didn't
start
there.
And
he,
he's
telling
this
guy
Smithers,
whose
eyes
are
all
bloodshot
and
swollen
clothes,
and
he's
all
swollen
up
and,
and
he'd
been
hospitalized
50
times.
And
so
he's
laying
there
detoxing.
And
this
guy.
Yet
Gardner
just
does
what
we
do.
He's
told
him
his
story.
At
the
end,
he
said,
you
know,
I
worked
with
this
wonderful
woman,
Marty
Mann,
who
is
turning
the
country
around
and
speaks
all
over
the
world
on
alcoholism
as
a
disease.
And
if
they
could
take
50
years
and
they're
going
to
close
this
down
because
Yale
has
withdrawn
his
support.
And
the
guy
looks,
you
know,
I
guess
as
good
as
you
can
look.
And
he
said,
I'll,
I'll
support
it.
I'll
take,
I'll
fund
it.
Now,
Can
you
imagine
making
a
12
set
call
you
and
I
and
we're
talking
to
some
nut
in
the
bed
and
we're
telling
we
need
a
lot
of
money
and
he's
going,
I'll
take
care
of
it.
We'll
come
back
tomorrow
when
you're
feeling
better.
I
don't
think
you
got
the
question.
You
know,
well
Brinkley
Smithers
father
was
the
founder,
co-founder
of
IBM.
He
was
born
with
a
platinum
spoon
in
his
mouth
somewhere
in
the,
I
don't
remember
now
either
500,000
or
250,000
stairs
of
IBM.
The
day
he
was
born.
He
had
so
much
money
that
his
cousin
who
was
a
CPA
did
nothing
to
keep
up
with
his
money
for
him.
So
he
meant
it
when
he
said
and
did.
He
funded
that
place
and
kept
it
alive.
He
also
built
the
Smithers
Institute,
Fully
Funded
Forever,
a
28
day
treatment
program.
He
had
an
argument.
He
hired
Ruth
Hawks.
He
wanted
only
rich
people
to
come
there
like
himself.
And
he
was
going
to
charge
him
a
lot
of
money.
And
she
wanted
anybody
to
come
and
she
quit
it.
But
it's
still
there
to
this
day.
And
his
dad
was
really
active
in
all
of
this.
I
just,
I
don't
know
why
I
like
all
this
stuff.
Just
brought.
She
brought
attributes,
came
to
this
country
in
1946.
So
I
bet
you
got
all
that
written
down,
haven't
you?
You
probably
figured
out
by
the
tapes,
and
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
it.
This
is
#230
Joe
Doppler,
as
he's
named
the
European
drinker.
He
may
have
been
the
first
Roman
Catholic
to
ever
joined
AA.
His
data
survived
is
3
of
36.
He's
really
getting
back
there,
isn't
he?
He
was
a
furniture
upholstery.
It's
one
of
the
first
six
enactment
He
was
three
years
and
no
months
as
the
printing
of
the
1st
edition
first
printing
Joe
Doctor.
He
still
spoke
in
that
European
stuff.
A
vicious
cycle
238
California's
own
Jimmy
Berwick,
he
got
sober
in
616
to
38,
and
he
died
in
9
eighths
of
74
from
a
freak
accident.
We'd
been
in
the
military
and
he
fell
down
and
hurt
himself
somewhere
or
another.
Ended
up
dying
at
the
big
hospital
down
in
San
Diego.
I
told
you
that,
he
said
in
the
12.
Yes
Sir,
the
sobriety
date
was
9/8
of
74.
No,
I'm
sorry,
that's
not
true.
Can't
be
true.
Sobriety
date
is
is
616
to
38.
Burwell
BURWE
LL
He
he
helped
start
AA
in
Baltimore
and
in
Philly,
Philadelphia,
he
was
the
guy
who
stood
for
the
third
who
just
fought
him
to
the
death
that
it
be
God
as
you
understand
him.
They
were
anti
this
guy.
They
in
those
days
that
when
you
read
the
his
story
in
the
12:00
to
12:00
when
he
sells
the
product
that
he's
supposed
to
be
selling
to
get
money
for
booze.
And
then
those
days
they'd
give
you
a
dime
and
you
could
make
your
call
on
a
dime
and
it
accepts
the
charges
and
they
would
come
anywhere
to
get
you
hundreds
of
miles
of
that's
what
it
says.
They
would
go
and
get
you
and
bring
you
back.
When
he
put
his
dime
in
and
made
his
call,
nobody
would
come.
They
just
couldn't
stand
it
because
he
forever
was
blasting
God
in
that
days
that
when
you
had
a
one
year
birthday,
you
were
automatically
the
speaker
and
he
got
up
and
gave
a
great
talk
about
the
fellowship
and
then
let
God
have
it.
They
thought
it's
just
going
to
be
okay.
Oh,
they
hated
that
guy.
But
eventually
he
comes
back
and
makes
a
great
member
and
that
contribution
little
you
never
know
here
what's
going
to
happen.
So
don't
try
to
judge
things.
That
contribution
let
us
in
to
all
of
the
world,
God
as
you
understand
it.
So
when
they
took
it
to
the
Buddhist
and
had
him
take
a
look
at
it,
they
said
change
God
to
good.
And
there's
nothing
there
we
can
disagree
with.
Isn't
that
something
that's
a
mirror?
How
do
you
do
that?
It
fits
in
everywhere
he
had
you
can
read
about
him
in
the
19th
May
1968.
I'm
not
going
to
go
too
far
in
he
had
some
brothers
they
died
from
drinking.
He
married
Rosa.
They
stayed
sober
together.
First
he
said
I'll
never
12th
up
another
woman
and
Rosa
said
you
sure
won't
he
he
he
ends
up
coming
to
San
Diego
CA
first
in
the
insurance
business
and
takes
care
of
buildings
of
real
estate
kind
of
deal
and
and
so
bills
mother
boobs
out
here
with
her
husband
the
second
husband
the
doctor
and
they
have
a
practice
and
she
makes
a
ton
of
money
in
real
estate
and
goes
off
the
year
to
study
to
be
a
psychiatrist
comes
back
just
and
she
just
invests
and
makes
and
he
takes
care
of
her
real
estate
for
they
know
each
other
lot
of
stories
about
this
guy.
He
has
a
history
of
a
I
have
it
on
CD.
I
like,
I
view
people.
Anything
I
say
is
something
I've
read.
You
know,
the
things
they
say,
they
were
there,
you
know
what
I
mean?
So
I
like
that
I
view
people.
The
next
guys
called
the
News
Hawk
and
he
is
the
guy
who
helped
to
edit
the
stories
in
Akron
and
the
story
started
out
as
traveler,
editor,
scholar
and
it
eventually
became
the
new
the
news
Hawk
and
he's
born
in
Australia.
He's
Doctor
Bob,
sponsor
Reed
and
he
got
sober
7
of
37
and
he
stayed
that
way.
He
also
helped
in
Washington,
DC
to
get
things
started.
Jim
Scott
was
the
same.
There's
two
Scots,
there's
Jim
Scott,
this
guy,
and
there's
Doctor
Jim
Scott
who
is
black
and
will
take
it
to
the
black
community.
From
Farm
to
City
is
the
next
little
story
we
have
here
on
page
261
of
the
3rd
edition.
Her
name
is
Ethel
Macy.
She
gets
over
5
of
41
in
Akron.
He's
the
first
woman
sober
in
Akron.
Her
husband
Russell
joined
at
the
same
time
her
husband
and
wife.
He
died
April
of
9th
of
1963
and
I
believe
she
stayed
sober.
I
don't
know
this
year
but
I'm
pretty
sure
she
did.
Somebody
said
you
weigh
300
lbs.
Ted
Russell
was
a
little
bitty
guy.
They
are
fun
though.
They
come
in
together.
I
think.
That
chocolate.
Yeah,
listen
to
that
over
here.
Chocolate,
the
man
who
mastered
fear,
Architect.
Archito
Bridge,
We'll
come
and
live
with
Doctor
Bob
and
he
will
start
AA
in
Detroit.
His
hometown
was
Grosse
Pointe
Michigan
called
the
fearful
one
the
first
time
around
and
they
changed
the
stories
of
man
who
master
sphere.
He
talked
about
sponsory.
He
has
a
non
alcoholic
friend
by
the
name
of
Sarah
Klein.
Sarah
Klein
was
a
social
worker
in
Detroit
who
had
great
interest
in
what
they
were
doing
and
for
your
information
was
the
first
secretary
of
the
a
a
meeting
there
a
non
alcoholic.
They
called
her
the
Angel
of
Detroit.
She
was
quite
a
woman.
He
lived
with
Doctor
Bob
for
10
months.
It
took
him
six
months
to
form
a
group.
He
spoke
3
languages,
lived
in
four
countries
for
years.
It
was
cottage
couple
of
years.
Man
and
master's
career
is
very
ill
for
a
long,
long
time.
Sarah
Klein
kind
of
took
over
for
him
and
kind
of
took
care
of
it.
Oh,
let
me
go
back.
I'm
sorry
they
survived.
September
11,
1938
Bob
Smith
Junior
Remember
this
guy
real
well
because
he
lived
over
for
10
months.
87
He
sold
himself
short.
Earl
Treat,
another
founder,
started
a
in
Chicago.
Earl
three.
His
data
survived
as
7
to
37.
He
wasn't
doing
a
whole
lot
of
good
for
a
while.
And
a
lady
named
Sylvia
Kaufman,
who
gotten
sober
with
Clarence
Snyder,
had
taken
the
steps
with
him.
She
got
silver
6
of
39.
And
she's
a
wealthy
Riddle.
And
she
showed
up
there,
wealthy
divorcee,
she
showed
up
there
and
him
and
her
together
put
it
together.
Who
died
10
of
62.
We
live
quite
a
while.
Some
of
the
early
members
he
was
aborted
trust
from
51
and
55.
He's
also
the
guy
who
says
to
Bill
the
point
should
be
traditions.
Bill
was
right
in
the
12
points
to
assure
our
our
future
and
this
guy
suggested
tradition
might
be
a
better
word.
They
give
him
credit
for
it
anyway.
OK,
the
next
guy
is
a
tremendous
guy
with
with
problems.
Him
and
Bill
had
a
lot
of
problems.
Well,
at
least
he
had
problems.
I
don't
think
Bill
paid
much
attention
to
him.
Clarence
Snyder.
Home
Brewmaster,
he
talks
about
a
9693%
rate
of
recovery
in
Cleveland.
Not
believing.
Well,
the
hardest.
There
was
a
Turing
Group
after
he
died
that
went
around
the
country
doing
things
like
Joe
and
Charlie
that
went
around
the
country
doing
these
things.
So
he
met
Doctor
Bob
February
the
eighth.
He
died.
He
will
stay
sober.
Day
to
sobriety
is
February
the
11th
of
1938
and
he
will
die
in
1984
in
Florida.
Moved
to
Castle
Barrel,
Florida.
One
of
my
sponsorees
moved
near
to
Casselberry
and
said
I
can't
find
a
sponsor
down
here.
I
said
how
far
is
Castlebury?
Said
20
miles.
I
said
that's
the
home
of
Clarence
Snyder.
I
guarantee
you
can
find
a
sponsor.
Had
a
wife
named
Grace.
His
first
wife
was
named
Dorothy.
He
first
group
to
call
herself
a
A.
That's
what
his
claim
to
fame
was.
He
thought
is
born
December
the
26th
of
1902.
He
had
a
son
by
Dorothy
and
then
he
had
his
wealth.
He
was
married
to
a
woman
named
Salman,
got
divorced
Saint
Petersburg.
Then
he
made
he
married
Grace
and
he
wrote
a
book
about
it.
He
joined
the
Assembly
of
God
Church.
He
was
famous
for
holding
Christian
retreat
and
he
thought
today
a
had
abandoned
the
principles
of
the
Oxford
Group
is
that
much
of
what
he
did.
He's
buried
in
Cameron
Cemetery
in
Cameron,
NC
with
grace
and
they
called
her
the
Amazing
Grace.
They
wrote
a
book
about
it.
Lots
and
lots
of
service
work,
he
was
arguing.
The
biggest
pile
of
complaints
in
New
York
is
from
Clarence
Snyder
writing
letters
about
deal
with
Sylvia
Kaufman.
Page
304
Data
Sobriety
is
6
of
39.
Clarence
Snyder
was
the
sponsor
and
she
she
helped
start
a
A
with
Earl
Treat
in
Chicago.
You
turn
that
6
of
39.
I
think
we
go
to
Part
2
now.
He
stopped
in
time.
This
first
guy,
317,
we
don't
know
who
he
is.
We
know
some
things
about
him.
He's
a
Vietnam
vet,
but
we
don't
know
a
lot
about
it.
We
also
believe
his
parents
are
in
the
program.
I
I
just
love
finding
these
people.
Sometimes
there
are
a
few
of
them
out
there.
The
six
guys,
Fear
of
Fears,
and
his
name
is
Cecil
Man
Mansfield.
His
day
of
sobriety
was
seven
four
of
1949.
Now
that
is
a
woman.
Her
husband
George
joined
at
the
same
time.
Isn't
that
interesting
when
people
do
that
next
guys
on
3/27?
His
name
is
Cecil
Carlisle
and
he
was
75
years
old
when
he
came
in.
His
nickname
was
Peace.
He
was
a
representative
of
stars
in
Hollywood.
What
he
did
for
a
living.
He
died
June
the
26th
of
1992,
those
golden
years,
and
I
give
that
to
you.
I'm
sorry,
12
or
70?
12
months
of
70
this
next
1335.
We
don't
know
anything
about
her.
She's
unknown.
If
you
find
anybody,
let
me
know.
I
want
to
add
them
to
the
collection.
We
don't
know
too
much
about
the
guy
on
342.
Who's
the
guy
from
India?
Where?
Just
the
literature.
He
got
sold
on
just
the
literature.
Yeah,
OK.
Well,
the
last
one
is
335
is
called
the
Housewife
Who
Drank
at
Home.
You
don't
know
let
me
go
back
a
little
first
that
night.
I'm
sorry.
I
just
the
next
work
thing
is
life
saving
words
and
he's
unknown,
but
he
got
the
big
deal
here
is
he
got
sober
on
the
literature
without
any
meeting,
which
kind
of
shows
that
the
literature
works.
I
guess
you
can
see
that
this
next
guy,
I
had
the
privilege
going
to
meetings
with
him
for
a
number
of
years.
His
name
is
Earl
Marsh
and
his
position
here
yourself
until
you
sponsor
with
Frank
Brennan,
a
very
famous
alcoholic
from
the
San
Francisco
Bay
Area,
sober
over
50
years.
When
he
died,
he
he
knew
Lawson
Bill.
I
tried
to
interview
him
in
his
90s,
but
he
was
kind
of
he
was
gone
a
little
bit.
He
was
a
heck
of
a
guy
though.
He
was
a
nice
man
He's
Walnut
Creek,
CA,
He's
a
psychiatrist
and
a
surgeon.
Actually,
he
dealt
more
with
delivering
babies
is
what
he
really
did.
He's
a
state
of
sobriety
was
615
and
1953.
He
is
mentioned
in
some
of
what
we
call
the
approved
book.
Earl
Mark
just
died
here
lately.
I
don't
have
a
death
date
but
I
went
to
the
funeral
but
it
didn't
get
the
day.
Nice
guy.
The
next
one
is
called
Lisa.
We
don't
know
much
about
it.
Yeah.
We
don't
know
much
about
a
teenager's
decision.
Absolutely.
She
may
or
may
not
be
alive.
She's
been
deleted
from
the
book,
The
4th
edition.
The
Next
Guys
on
356.
His
name
is
Pete
Walter
and
he
got
sober
in
June
of
1945
and
the
story
is
rum
radio
and
rebellion.
Wasser
WASSER.
The
story
was
updated
in
1945.
In
The
Grapevine
in
1969.
Updated
story
in
the
Grapevine
in
1969.
He's
born
in
Cleveland,
OH,
or
maybe
Tennessee.
Not
too
sure
about
that
one.
I
got
maybe
Tennessee
there
so,
but
he
got
sober.
He
got
sober
in
Cleveland
and
I've
got
him
on
CD.
Any
day
was
worse
day.
We
don't
know
much
about
them.
There's
a
husband
and
a
wife.
A
husband
is
the
alcoholic.
Both
parents
are
probably
alcoholic,
but
reading
the
story
you
get
that
75373
This
man's
name
was
Chet
Rude.
He's
a
banker
out
of
New
York,
out
of
Los
Angeles.
It
might
have
been
worse
as
the
story
he's
mentioned
by
Cliff
Walker
in
the
History
of
A
A
He
helped
set
up
the
books
for
the
original
office
that
was
run
by
Civil
Corn
Central
Office
in
Southern
California.
He
also
set
up
the
books
for
the
business
office
in
New
York.
He
did
not
make
it.
Good
guy
though.
The
flow
of
the
South.
Great
lady.
The
name
is
Esther
Ellis
off
ELIZARDI
ELIZARDI.
He
got
sober
on
the
5th
month,
16th
day
of
1941.
He
was
the
founder
of
the
program
in
Dallas,
TX.
He
died
June
the
third
of
1960.
He
was
a
very
active,
active,
recovering
woman
alcoholic.
He
was
married
to
a
man
she
also
helped
in
Houston,
TX
too.
She
she
was
married
to
a
guy
from
Louisiana
and
they
had
a
lot
of
oil.
Yes,
he
did.
She
benefited
from,
but
she
was,
I
have
a
picture
of
her.
She
was
just
a
tireless,
tireless
worker
calculating
the
cost
of
396.
Do
not
know
who
he
is.
Is
about
6
stories.
They
don't
know
who
any
of
them
are.
Stars
Don't
Fall
is
the
next
one
on
400.
Her
name
is
Felicia
Greznik.
That's
her
real
name.
Quite
a
story
around
her
body
Man
was
her
sponsor.
She
will
never
drink
again.
He
is
the
daughter.
She
had
mood
swings
and
took
niacin
and
clinical
depression
and
she's
an
erotic
and
her
mother
was
a
lady
with
lots
of
money
who
ran
a
newspaper
and
her
cousin
owned
the
name
of
Magruder,
owned
the
New
York
Times.
They
were
pretty
high
in
society
and
they
had
a
ton
of
money.
Her
mother
decided
that
she
had
all
that
this
world
could
give,
and
so
she
wanted
to
be.
She
wanted
a
title
so
she
married
a
count
we
think
from
Austria
and
she
ended
up
this
guy
turned
out
not
to
be
as
nice
as
he
seemed
to
be
and
was
violent.
So
she
brought
her
baby
and
came
home.
He
sent
his
hitchman
after
them
and
stole
the
baby
and
took
it
back.
And
I'll
talk
about
a
little
horsepower.
She
diagnosis
92
years
old
February
at
99.
She's
55
years
old.
The
reason
I
know
a
lot
about
her
is
because
when
they
were
writing
their
life
story
of
Marty
Mann,
the
Browns,
who
I
interviewed,
you
can't
get
it
first
hand
yourself.
Get
it
from
somebody
that
has
it.
They
had
found
her
in
Denver,
Co
in
a
rest
home.
She
had
two
grandsons
there.
One's
a
famous
painter.
And
they
were
very
kind
to
them
and
they
called
and
told
what
they
wanted.
They
were
just
so
excited,
flew
out
there
and
they
said,
well,
we
don't
know
if
Grandma
ought
to
keep
it
together
anymore,
and
she
couldn't.
But
then
they
were
so
downhearted,
they
thought
they'd
found
a
real
key
to
the
to
the
whole
thing.
These
people
had
enough
horsepower
to
go
to
Franklin
Delano
Roosevelt
and
have
him
use
the
United
States
government
to
get
that
kid
back
with
diplomatic
means.
That's
horsepower.