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Who I meditated on my day. I reviewed my day. When I get done with my review,

what do I do?

Ask God forgive me and say willpower. Wow, you know, today was this is how the day went. This is what I did. I got to I got to get closure. I got to always going to clean it up. I'm going to clean up every day and then require what corrected me should be taken

so always my mind already know. Tomorrow I got some amends to make.

If I go back and review my name and I didn't make my minutes,

I better go do it. Or if I made them, I can say that, you know, forgive me for got a little angry today and I don't know.

So then what we do on awakening? That means when you wake up from sleeping,

no matter what time it is,

we think about the 24 hours ahead.

We consider our plans for the day before we begin before we begin our day, but as another before we begin.

We ask God to direct our thinking, especially asking that it be divorced from self finished dishonest or self seeking money. That's a prayer.

Under these conditions, we can employ our mental faculties with an assurance for after all, God gave us brains to use

what has used me.

If I'm going to use my brain, it's a tool to do God's will, as opposed to a master that's going to direct the universe.

Our thought life will be placed on a much higher plane when we're thinking, when our thinking is cleared of wrong motives. What's wrong? Motive.

So that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to ask God to direct my thinking. If I'm going to ask God to direct my thinking, I'm going to ask a question, right? What do I have to do?

I got to be listening.

I got to be looking for those intuitive things that are going to work.

So in thinking about our day, we may face indecision.

Wow. We may not be able to determine which course to take. See, I'm not always going to have the answer. I don't have the answer. I've turned my will and my life over to the care and direction of God as I understand God.

So here we ask God for inspiration and intuitive Father decision. Another prayer,

see, and oftentimes you have people like kind of snicker at this point in the big book and it's like, OK, this guy's talking to God.

Now, if I'm going to ask the question, if I want inspiration, I want an intuitive thought or I want a decision, I got to have some way to receive that.

And it's through my prayer, meditation, my conscious contact with my higher power that I'm going to get that inspiration that that decision is going to come.

That makes sense. I mean, I got to be listening.

That's what it's about. So we relax and take it easy. See, I'm not forcing it. I'm not God anymore. I'm not trying to force a decision. I'm not trying to force the intuition. I want to know what the next right thing is, if it is in fact God's will and not mikes.

Take it easy and relax.

Then if I'm upset and I'm pushing, it's typically Mike's.

We don't struggle. I'm not struggling. This is my day. You know, the sun came up, it's going to come up every morning. I got the next day sober.

Am I?

You know, I've got the next diesel and that's how I'm going to live my day. It's a new day,

I'm going to relax, not struggle, take it easy. And so it says. We are often surprised how the right answers come after we have tried this for a while. What does that mean? I've got to practice this. See, I my experience was that in the beginning I was lucky if I could spend.

I couldn't even stop my mind from racing.

You know, you'd say, well, why don't you go meditate? Meditate. I can't quiet my head down, You know, I can't, I can't keep a clear message. I can't even like focus on anything. And that's how I started. And I think that's how everybody started. I'm going to ask for that inspiration, the intuitive thought or the decision. Each time I practice, it got a little bit better. Each time I prayed, it got a little bit easier. Each time I looked for the conscious contact

with the God of my understanding, which is the God now at this stage of my program,

I've got a spiritual step. 10 years told me,

you know that that I'm that I'm, I'm back. I am now in a conscious contact with God

as I understand God,

you know,

So I want to improve on that. That's what I'm that's what I'm trying to do with this step.

So then we get the promises, and these are the 11 step promises. Pop page 87. What used to be a hunch on occasional inspiration gradually gradually becomes a working part of the mind

who were just talking about it, Tim when we talked about it's 6:00 and 7:00, but we talked about in five is 1/6 sense.

I'm going to be living in the 4th dimension. I am not going to be God anymore. I am not going to be the director. I am not the principal. I am in service to God's will and that inspiration is going to come to me as a success.

Being stilled out, There's a warning here, being still an experience, that having just made conscious contact with God is not probable that we're going to be inspired at all times. That's true. We might pay for this presumption with all sorts of absurd actions and ideas. I always ask the guys I sponsor. I say, hey, are you going to start praying and meditating and you're going to start looking for direction from God? And I just want you to do one thing before you actually decide to take action on a direction.

I want you to call him

and we'll talk about it just a little bit

to see if it's God's inspiration or yours.

But nevertheless, we find that our thinking will, as time passes, once again reminding us this is a process that takes time, practice, patience,

will be more and more on the plane of inspiration. We come to rely on it.

We usually conclude the period of meditation with a prayer that we've been shown all through today, but our next step is to be

that we be given whatever we need to take care of such problems. All problems

we ask especially for freedom from self will and are careful to make no requests for ourselves. Only

we asked for ourselves, however, if others will be helped,

that's exactly what the step says. What am I praying for?

I am praying for

knowledge of God's will for me and the power to carry that out. That's what I want to know. That's all I want to know because I'm not in charge anymore.

I just want to clear my mind and let the inspiration come through to me

that's going to answer those two questions.

Power. And what do I do?

We're careful never to pray for our own selfish ends. Many of us have wasted a lot of time doing that, and it doesn't work. You can easily see why,

if circumstances want, we ask our wives or friends to join us in morning meditation.

That's truly optional.

Some people you find would like to join you in morning meditation, and some people won't even want to be anywhere around you in morning meditation.

If you belong to a religious denomination which requires a definite morning devotion, we attend to that also.

If not members of religious bodies, we sometimes select and memorize a few set prayers which emphasize the principles we have been discussing.

There are many helpful books also. I always stop here. You know, he just got through Sam. We're going to want to pray and meditate. And I'm telling you, there are thousands of books from the history of man that addressed the question of prayer, meditation,

he says. There are many helpful books. I don't know how many meetings you go to, if you go to the same meetings I go to, but every once in a while I get in meetings where people stand up and say that

not conference approved literature.

We don't talk about that. It says to me at least right here on this page of the book,

there are many helpful books. Also,

it doesn't say you are to only meditate on conference approved literature. And in fact he goes on to say suggestions about these. Maybe it came from once priest, minister or rabbi. I don't think there's many rabbis that are going to explain what the difference is between 24 hours a day and daily reflections.

So be quick to see where religion people are, right? Make use of what they offer. That's my experience. I've, you know, like I told you, I'm an old hippie. I did all sorts of medication,

a lot of a drug induced but most of it alcohol or drug induced meditation. But

you know, you know, liquids in look at, look at any anybody that wants to have some meditation. There is good stuff out there. And I don't think anybody wants to be the one to say, hey, you ought to be doing it this way. You ought to be doing it that way. The book doesn't say that.

The book just says I gotta seek.

I got to seek that relationship, that conscious contact with God as I understand God. That's what I'm after.

Now, how I do that, I don't know. I got. I got people with old timers that I think are spiritual giants. That'll tell you

they have no formal prayer meditation program.

And I think, but sometimes, you know, maybe you could be there and it works for you and you're in conscious contact with your guys. Hallelujah. That's wonderful. But more for me.

Me, I need to sit down and say, hey, every morning I'm going to spend some time. I'm going to do this

every night. I'm going to spend some time. I'm going to do this

and then just in case, Bill says as we go through the day now,

is there anytime

in the day the girls left out

because I people always ask me to say, well, what am I supposed to pray and meditate? I think he said when we retire on awakening and all through the day. So other than when you're asleep,

you don't have to be praying and meditating?

I think that's what he said.

Other than that, I think the whole day is covered, so when I start my day, I'm pretty well into it.

So, he says. As we go through the day, we pause. That's an instruction,

I thought when agitated or doubtful. I never got to know about you. I never paused from agitated enough.

I would always run over you before I bought.

I could make it happen before it paused. You would be in pain before I paused, or else I'd be in jail or the other

and ask for the right broader action. So if I'm going to act once again, I hate to go back on this over and over, but if I'm going to ask, what am I going to have to do?

Let's see. I have to have that conscious context and I get that by practicing time.

We constantly remind ourselves we are no longer running the show, humbly saying to ourselves how many times each day

many thy will be done. I'm circled all the way back to the third step prayer. I made a loop back to what I said I was going to do when I made the decision to turn my will and my life over.

Right Bills just circled be right back. Right back to where I started before he gave me the tools and tell me that the tools I got are going to take me back to where I was when I made the decision.

And what do we get? Some more promises.

We are then in much less danger, excitement, fear, anger, worry, self pity or foolish decisions.

We become much more efficient. We do not tire so easily, for we are not burning up energy foolishly as we did when we were trying to arrange life to suit ourselves.

It works, it really does.

Before I finish with that, I want to talk about one more thing in the book because it's so important to me

and it's on page 105.

I'm not going to read all of 104 and 1:05, but they're great promises in the bottom of 104 through the end of 105. It's the end of step 11. But the thing that happens that I get asked all the time by my guys and that happens to me that I like to point out is that this is not like it happens. And it's always great because the middle of the first full paragraph actually just started. That paragraph says all this should be very encouraging news for those who recall from prayer because they don't believe in it or because they feel themselves cut off from God's help and direction.

And in this restless paragraph it says, all of us, without exception, pass through times when we can pray only with the greatest exertion of will.

Occasionally we go even farther than this. We are seized with a rebellion so sickening

that we simply won't pray.

When these things happen, we should not think too I'll of ourselves.

We should simply resume prayer as soon as we can, doing what we know to be good for

the eye can be seized by that. I can go back to that place where I said this is not for me,

even though I have the experience of it being the thing that's making me grow.

So it's just another little. It's the perseverance, it's the patience, it's the tolerance, it's the time and the practice in the 11th step.

So last paragraph says page 88, the big book. We Alcoholics are undisciplined. No duh.

So we let God, we let God discipline us in the simple way we have just outlined. Now the first few times I read that, I said discipline and discipline us, and I thought, whoa, wait a second, discipline is like punishment.

I go to the principals office, I get disciplined,

I go to the judge, I get discipline. But that's not the definition of discipline. That's part of one definition. But in the context of this, to understand it is that if I'm undisciplined, it means that I have no direction or no guidance. Discipline means that that I can, I need guidance and direction

and I can develop the discipline if I let God

do it. So I can't go meditate and pray and say, you know, I read Zen Buddhism 304

and that's exactly what I needed. And that didn't work for me, so I'm not doing it anymore. That may not be what you need. And maybe sitting outside, maybe walking around the block, you may be pulling the covers over your head. I don't know. Would you get to know? You get to find that conscious contact that works for you and improves your relationship with your guy.

So we discipline this in the simple way we just outlined. But this is not all. There's action and more action. Faith without work is dead. The next chapter is

entirely Devoted

Step 12

and Dance by There We Are. That's pretty good.

I was listening intently. I've forgotten whether you mentioned that was called a 24 hour program.

Is anybody here ever heard anybody say that we do this program one day at a time?

Well, that is the 24 hour program and in the early days that's what they would have you do.

It would just say go to step 11 and follow step 11.

My first sponsor said to me, Do you believe in God?

Yeah. Well, then you must pray, mustn't you?

Jesus,

No. Why not? I told him, he said, Well, I want you to put your head down on the bed, said that treatment center. You're going to have almost bands around my arm. You know,

you said the treatment center you're in, you can leave anytime you want to. Aren't you leaving?

I don't know

God keeping you there. You need to thank you and throw your shoes up under the bed when you go to bed at an old spot for trick to get you on your knees. When you're down there on your knees looking for your shoes the next morning in front of all these guys as you're sleeping in the same room with or you're going to be embarrassed,

just say to God, thank you. God help me stay sober today,

man, that guy was on me, he said. And don't talk to people you don't know very well

so very long, he said. You can develop that, All right, We've done all of this work and we know we can work Step 11 out of line. That's the only step we work out of line, hopefully.

Why did we do all of this?

To get into page 89 and the 12 step.

The 12 step is a light is a life of service.

That's not any different than a Franciscan. She's got a light of service or some other person out there. I mean, we're not all that special. This is something we didn't create this we we borrowed it.

So he starts out that

he says working with others,

and he says practical experience shows that nothing will so much ensure immunity from drinking this intense work with other Alcoholics. I think we all know what intense is,

some promises throughout here, it said. It works with other activities fail altruistic service. Altruistic means to get out of South other centered. That's what altruistic means.

So part of my problem is how do I defeat my own self centeredness?

I have to become I was listening to an inventory. I told you I spots of men and women. And anyway, since this lady's inventory, she's been around a long time, 21 years.

And she said to me,

being around you, Don, I get the feeling that you're more interested in my life than you are yours. I said absolutely,

absolutely. You know, that's about getting out of self completely. I'm more interested in your life than I am mine.

And so it works with other activities. Fail. This is our 12th suggestion. Carry this message to other Alcoholics. Now we got to go back and look at the book from the position is written in 1939.

You have ordered the book or somebody did for you. There is no fellowship where you are. You read the book, you follow the directions as best you can. You stay sober

and you get to this part of the book and you start looking to build a meeting that makes sense. You're going to be the founder of that meeting. You're going to go out and create that meeting.

It was a man in in

San Francisco who was called the Prince of the 12th episode one time along with Doctor Bob and he married a girl from South America from Salvador and he went to San Salvador when there wasn't another recovered alcoholic insight and started meetings there. People have been starting meetings all over the place. Some people say a coffee pot and a resentment. You just start a meeting. That's what people say,

so he says, so he's got a promise. You can help with Noel.

What else can you can secure their confidence when others fail because we are a program of people who are alike. Remember it's a direction they're they're very ill. I wrote compassion in the book life will take on a new meaning. You don't have to create compassion. It will come to you here. You don't have to fake anything if it kills me when people start saying fake it till you make it. I just

life will take on new meaning. To watch people recover,

oh boy, nothing like that. To see them help others right away. You know

when Mike got through his steps and I always say to people, when you get through your steps and you know how to sponsor, then I want you to sponsor. When you get through the steps, you don't know how because that's how you do it. And I said, and you know, I we're going to start finding you some sponsor reason. At the time I worked at the Salvation Army at 7th and Bryant down in Oakland. 133 beds.

Some of the people have been in there, been living under bridges for years.

I didn't tell him that they were a tough crowd. I just took him.

That's why I was taking them all at the time him and we were talking about it coming up. Cadillac Mike, this guy, about 10 others, you know, I just, they just followed me blindly down there, you know, by the sponsor. I got one Good, good. That's all you need. Now you start working. So we set up what we did for them that they never had there before is we set up a a book that we read the book to them and took them through the first three steps and we showed them how to do a four step. We put them in a little room by themselves,

guys walking around helping them to fill it out. And then we got guys to listen to their fifth steps and, you know, take the rest of the way through and become their permanent sponsor.

And the increase down there went up.

It's amazing. They're looking for some people in Stockton at this time. There are several people that would like to have some help doing that same thing.

So these guys end up with guys that are, you know, most people. I mean, you'd have to see where Mike lives to understand how much different they were.

So anyway, and they and they stayed with it, man, they went down there, everything they stayed with it. And they, they feel good about what they did. They got baptism. I call it baptism under fire. To see them help others, to watch loneliness Spanish, to see a fellowship grow up among them. These are all promises to have a host of friends.

This is an experience you must not miss.

4th dimension of life.

We know you will not want to miss it. Frequent contact with newcomers and with each other is the bright spots of our lives. You bet you I do that. The first time I walked in here on last first Saturday we ever met here. I could tell it by the hum in the room. You were humming.

You're talking to each other in loving and kind ways. You were glad to see each other. You know. I could hear you. I didn't know, have to know what you were saying. You're just, you were just. I'm been riding along, man. The room was alive with activity. Perhaps you're not acquainted with any drinkers who want to recover. See, now we're we're going to see if we can figure out a way to start a meeting. You can easily find something by asking a few doctors, ministers, priests, or hospitals. They will only be too glad to assist you. You bet you

it wasn't doing any good with you anyway, so you know why not. There they are, you know. Don't start out as an advantage or a reformer. Unfortunately a lot of praises exist. You will be handicapped if you arouse it. Ministers and doctors are competent and you can learn much from them if you wish.

It's easy here to get an attitude that I know more than the doctor.

I have more recovery than the Doctor.

I have more recovering people in the doctor,

so I asked, you know, if you knock carefully, ego gets scared away and you begin to think that you know more than the doctors.

It says, but it happens, that because of your own drinking experience, you can be uniquely useful to other Alcoholics. So never cooperate. So cooperate, never criticize. Slip of the tongue there to be helpful is our only aim. That's boy, that's a great thing to remember. I'm just trying to be helpful, that's all. I'm nobody special. I tell people on the spot I don't. I'm nobody special. I've done a lot of it, but I'm nobody special.

People say to me sometimes,

why have you never become a delegate? Or why have you never done this, or why have you never been a GSR? Why?

That's not what I do. I am here to try to bring other Alcoholics to a set of steps that we call principles, that we call steps. What transformation happens, We'll get another or more at a time. I get a lot of requests if people don't come to me. When you get a kind of a tough reputation as a book guy, they don't run up to you every day going. Can you be my sponsor?

Because you know, if they tell somebody I'm thinking about asking Don to be my, you'll be in a, you'll be in an inventory in a week and a half probably. You know, they'll don't do that. You don't want to do that, you know.

So those at Duka mean business

and I like him that way. I like him when they show up meeting business, you know, and if they don't meet and So what happens on the Tuesday night meeting? I sponsor so many people. I get so many requests. I found this easier if I just haven't meet in one group. So I just tell them come to some Tuesday night meet and bring you good book club and we're going to go through the work like it would anyway, except they get to go through with maybe higher minutes there, eight or nine or ten or something like that.

And they, sometimes they go and sometimes they stay.

When you discover and he's going to call him a prospect. I love the names they're going to use here. A prospect. Anybody ever prospect like motorcycle clubs have prospect. You're not a member, you're just, you're just over there kind of knocking on their door and they're letting you got a little sponsor guy. They're living, giving you a bunch of assignments, and they're letting you be a prospect

throughout our salons. Find out all you can about him. If he does not want to stop drinking, don't what?

Don't waste time trying to persuade him. You must spoil a later opportunity. You got to let the disease do its job and that's one of the hardest things in the world, especially if it's a loved one.

You know, it's desirable, just terrible

and that's what happens. A lot of people will never let their children hit bottom, particularly those who have got a little money. They can't stand the pain and they go swoop them up and take them off of some Thunder Rd. or off to some other place. I know people have been in eight, 10/12/18 of them. I know one guy's been in 18 that his brother's working with one day and he introduced me this guy and we had dinner together and I listened to he was very funny man. He had all the, all the, the social

discussions of AA and he would make it fall out of your seat laughing about talking about treatment, you know, and

he said, what do you think? Because that's the funniest dying man I've ever seen in my life, you know?

He says this advice is given for his family also. They should be patient, realizing they are dealing with a sick person. I got to get this understood that this is not something I personally do You

it's I am a sick human being.

If there's any indication that he wants to stop, have a good talk with the person most interested in him, usually his wife.

That's a good idea. I

oh, I'll just tell you, there's somewhere in the neighborhood of 340 people with an 85% rate of recovery. I'll tell you what it is. And then I keep up with them. And then I have a box full of 100 people or better who I couldn't get past three. I couldn't get them. I didn't do three, but they wouldn't go to four, you know, I just couldn't get them to go, you know, and they wander off. Some of them, some of them just stay. Some of them just keep coming around.

You gotta wait for the disease. Everybody's not ready at the same time and everybody is not even though they look ready. You know what I mean? Look ready. I mean they look ready, but they not. And you got to wait. You know, you got to wait. There's three questions you ask.

Do you think you have a drinking problem?

If they say no, your cleft have caused done

the book. The book basically says thus be friends and leave it at that. You know,

sometimes you haven't read the book if they will and ask them, do they identify and think they're Alcoholics?

The next one is if you say, if he says yes, I believe I'm an alcoholic, you will ask him, do you want to stop drinking? Just because of an alcoholic does not mean I want to stop drinking. I knew I was an alcoholic a long time ago.

I used to take my mother when she was alive to Mother Day dinners. They usually consisted of ordering the food,

getting the, I don't know, for some reason when we did that, we like to drink martinis and start drinking martinis, having the waiter box the food up. What we should have done to start with,

there's nobody's going to eat it. And we would sit there and get drunk and we call that Mother's Day. And so one day I say to her, you know, Mom, I think I'm an alcoholic. And she looks at me and she says, you ought to be, you come from a long line of them. You know, it's been around a long time. And so I and I, I knew I was an alcoholic, but I wasn't willing to do anything about it.

So the guys got a wanted to quit drinking

and if he says yes I want to quit drinking, then your third question would be what links will you go to? Will you go to any links? And if he says to you, I am willing to go to any length, you have something better than a prospect problem, little beyond the prospect,

an idea of his behavior, his problems, his background, the seriousness of his condition as religious learning. And as we move to the wives and family afterwards, we're going to see some examples of the things that you could talk to them about. And we're going to find out that working with others at that time is when we work with wives and families. I've talked to lots of families, desperate people.

Not long ago. I have a guy that I nicknamed people all the time.

I'll have you nicknamed before it's over. Doctor Bob used to do that. Not because I think I'm Bob, but I just, you know, nickname people. Then I can remember who they are a lot of times

Joe the fireman, you know, Hank the electrician, you know that kind of stuff. Anyway, this I got a phone call one day and this lady says this is so and so. And I used to call this guy Halliburton Howe is what I call him and he was a salesman and he just a funny guy

and he had a terrible time with this program is in and out and I'm picking him up and taking him to detoxes and down to Kaiser dog Jesus. Just a mess. So anyway,

I get a call one day. He had a sister, his dad died. He had a sister and A and A and a mother and a sister had a child which is a niece. And that was their family. And they moved to Redding, CA and took out with them. And

so they came into San Francisco one day and said to how will you be all right until we get back? And he said yes. And when they got back, he was overdosed on their van and died.

What a thing to walk into.

And I don't care who you are, if you're the child from other sisters, brothers, you're going to feel bad.

And so one more time, this is how sister and I want you to know my mother would like to speak to you and that Hal had had overdosed and died.

Man, I don't know why anybody want to talk to me. And so she gets on the phone and says, you know, I just need to thank you for all the years that you have talked to me and helped me through one crisis after another with this guy and all the times you tried to help him. And she said, I just, she's crying and I'm crying and you know, and my mind says, but I didn't do anything.

He died from the disease. I wasn't successful.

So the sister gets on the phone and she says, Don, I have something I need to tell you. And I said, what's that? And she said, I want you to understand that I love my brother,

but I also want you to understand and vain is God.

That's how much her moral, that's how much problems he created within that family structure

because it was all about how

all about how we're going to save half what we're going to do about how you know,

and that force, oh, God bless him. I could see him right now today.

If you've never 12 steps with wet drunks, you haven't lived.

Added old Cadillac all fixed up. I finally worked my way up and I had Naugahyde white

leather put in there. Oh, it looks sharp and it's beautiful. I have a painter from Cadillac who's a sponsor read. He took it off and for a very nice price, painted beautiful talk. People were running me down in the streets trying to buy it. I mean, it was really, it looked restored. It was nice.

So Hal calls me and he needs a ride for a detox and I go pick him up and I always carry a 33 gallon green bag that you pick up trash in with me. Several of them,

and so

housing that in the slobbering part, you know, it feels bad. Sorry. I just don't know why I do this. Do you know? Shut up, Al. Anyway, I didn't really shut up that

so I said now how? Here's your bag. Have you been sick? Oh, yeah. But it says it will take this back out. Looks like Grand Canyon, you know,

And I said hang on and we'll go. I couldn't get him a bed. So I had a secret deal down here at Fairfield with a lady that had a detox center up there. And she would, she'd put them on the castle and she's really kind to them. And here I at 75 miles an hour, I'm flying down the freeway and we're headed for failing and everything looks under control and how it looks like it's going to be all right and we're going to get there.

And he throws up

missus the bag.

The white has got pink on it

and being compassionate

and loving. He started to cry and says, oh, I'm so sorry. I said don't worry about that. Oh yeah,

Because I felt really bad for him. I felt really bad,

but Hal and I rode around in that car a lot. He must have liked a car, I think. Or riding. I don't know what it was exactly. He wasn't up getting sober, but he liked her riding around.

Get an idea of his behavior, the problems, his background, the serious of his conditions, his religious leaning. You'll need this information to put yourself in his place. See how you would like him to approach you if the tables were turned. Sometimes it is wise to wait until he goes on a binge. The family may object to this, but unless he is in real dangerous physical condition, it's better to risk it.

Catch him on the bottom, catch him on hangover morning, catch him when he feels bad.

My first sponsor was very direct with me. He said if you're going to drink, you can go to hell by yourself, but when you're done drinking, let me know and I'll come help you.

He'd come get you out of the gutter. He'd come get you anywhere. I know the guy, you know he just wasn't he's I can't talk to a bottle. He said he suffer favorite. Go out and finish. You're drunk.

Keep drinking till you're done, you know,

because this phone doesn't work when you're half baked.

Don't deal with him when he's very drunk unless he is ugly and the family needs your help out from time to time. I never have really had to wrestle anybody, but

it wouldn't be so bad. Wait for the have fought for a lot less reasons. Wait for the end of the spree and at least for a lucid interval. He's telling you how to do this thing. Wait for the end of the sphere. Some lucid interval the guy might have

then let his family or friend ask if he wants to quit for good. See how to deal with the family. You don't get involved in their stuff. You tell him that you know somebody. Sing if we go any to any extreme to do so. If he says yes, then his attention should be drawn to you as a person who is recovered.

You should be ascribed to him as one of the fellowship who is a part of his own recovery, tries to help others, and who will be glad to talk to him if he cares to see you. That's so important. I know people like to bust down doors and, and you know, and that might be all right in some instances. I had a guy that they call me

about his sister and he's over now quite a while and would you help me with an intervention? I said. Tell me the situation.

She's got a husband. I said how's he feel it? Well, he's all my size. All you need, you and that husband just go get you make sure you got a bed for him. They got a lot of money. It's not a money problem. It's another thing you want to find out what can you afford or see? And then you start working the system and I have a four page deal all, I don't know, I'll send it up on there or something, but I'm sure you could put one together around here. What are the facilities that are available to you all the way up and down the scale from lots of money

to no money? Do you have those facilities down there? We do. We have free Salvation Armies, a great, great place. We've been meeting with them since 1940.

If he does not want to see you, never force yourself upon him.

Neither should the family hysterically plead with him to do anything, nor should they tell him much about you. They should wait for the end of the next drinking bout. You might place this book where he could see it in the interval.

That's a wonderful thing. Here are no specific rules can be given the family of society. These things, but urge them not to to be over anxious for that might spoil matters. Wait for the bottom hardest thing in the world or wait for the bottom. Usually, the family should not try to tell your story.

When possible, avoid meeting a man through his family approach to a doctor. An institution is a better bet. If your man needs hospitalization,

he

he should have it, but not forcefully unless he is violent.

Let the doctor, if he will tell you he has something in a way of a solution. It's interesting

today the courts, we're very