Steps 10-12 at the Primary Purpose Group in Seaford, NY – February 26th 2011
Hi,
my
name
is
Damon.
I'm
an
alcoholic.
Thank
you,
Derek,
again
for
this
opportunity.
The
way
I
understand
it,
I
came
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
with
two
different
problems.
One
is
that
I
was
suffering
from
alcoholism.
I
was
suffering
from
a
seemingly
hopeless
condition
of
body
and
mind.
You
know,
I
had
a
body
that
couldn't
process
alcohol
safely
and
I
had
a
mind
that
could
not
determine
whether
or
not
to
ingest
alcohol,
you
know,
that
did
not
have
control
over
whether
or
not
I
drank.
And
so
that
was
my
one
problem.
And
then
I
had
an
additional
problem,
which
is
that
I
had
a
severe
spiritual
malady.
I
was,
I
was
completely
blocked
spiritually.
And
I've
got
these
two
different
problems.
And
here's
this
one
over
here.
The
alcoholism
I
can't
do
anything
about,
you
know,
that
was
the
first
thing
that
I
got
to
see
in
looking
at
the
first
step,
is
that
I
had
no
power
over
any
of
this
stuff.
I
could
not
control
what
happened
when
booze
was
in
my
system.
And
I
had
no
reason
to
believe
that
I
was
never
going
to
be
able
to
say
no
on
an
extended
basis,
you
know?
So
here's
this
problem
I
can't
do
anything
about
and
a
comes
along
with
this
radical
message
that's
so
different
than
what
I
had
heard
any
place
else,
different
than
what
family
members
or
friends
or
therapists
or
rehabs
or
TC
say.
You
know,
all
those
things
are
saying
you
have
to
decide
that
you're
done
once
and
for
all.
You
know,
make
your
sobriety
the
most
important
thing
in
your
life.
And
an
A
came
along
with
this
radically
different
message,
which
is
if
you're
like
us
and
sobriety
is
the
most
important
thing
in
your
life,
you're
in
trouble
because
we
don't
have
any
power
over
our
sobriety.
And
So
what
we've
done,
and
we're
going
to
suggest
to
you
is
instead
of
trying
to
stay
sober,
take
all
of
that
energy
and
instead
put
it
into
trying
to
clear
out
a
channel
between
you
and
a
power
that
can
protect
you
from
it.
So
instead
of
dealing
with
the
alcoholism,
I
deal
with
the
spiritual
malady.
And
you
know,
I
used
to
look
at
this
book,
at
our
text
as
this
is
a
guide
to
staying
sober.
And
as
I
was
taken
through
it,
I
got
to
see
that
they
say,
the
reason
we've
written
this
book
is
this
book
is
to
enable
you
to
find
a
power
greater
than
yourself
which
will
solve
your
problem.
This
book
isn't
actually
about
me
recovering
from
alcoholism.
It's
about
getting
me
in
touch
with
the
higher
power,
about
getting
me
in
touch
with
God.
And
what
they
found
is
when
they
got
in
touch
with
God,
God
handled
the
alcoholism.
So
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
problem
again.
You
know,
so
we've
been
talking
about
the
first
nine
steps
the
last
handful
of
weeks.
And
now
that's
the
thing
that
was
to
clear
out
the
channel,
you
know,
identify
that
problem
in
the
first
step.
I
have
some
hope
of
a
solution,
some
willingness
to
believe
in
a
solution
in
the
second,
In
the
third,
then,
OK,
well,
obviously
there's
nothing
left
for
me
to
do
if
I've
got
one
and
two,
but
three,
you
know,
if
there's
no
answer
for
accept
this
one
possibility
that
I'm
willing
to
believe,
well,
then
I
better
try
to
make
that
the
focus
of
my
energies
at
this
point
out.
And
then
four
through
9
for
this
program
of
action.
Bless
you
that
that's
that's
to
clear
out
the
channel
between
me
and
this
power.
And
so
now
what
they
say
when
they
start
to
talk
about
10,
they
say
we've
entered
the
realm
of
the
spirit,
right?
We've
the
past
is
now
behind
us.
We've
looked
at
the
selfishness,
the
self
centeredness.
We've
looked
at
the
fear
and
the
anger
and
the
judgmentalism
and
the
entitlement
of
the
grandiosity
and
the
blame
and
all
of
this
stuff.
We've
looked
at
it.
We've
got
it
all
on
paper.
We
dragged
it
out
into
the
light
where
it
can't
survive.
We've
asked
God
to
take
it
away.
And
we've
said
now,
so
that
I
can
experience
it
being
gone,
I'm
going
to
go
out
clean
this
stuff
up.
I'm
going
to
go
out
and
make
amends,
make
right
these
harms
that
I've
caused.
And
now
that
that's
happened,
we
find
that
we're
exper
a
form
of
conscious
contact
with
this
power.
You
know,
in
two,
all
I
had
to
do
was
be
willing
to
believe.
They
say
that
over
and
over
again.
And
we
agnostics,
I
didn't
even
necessarily
have
to
believe
anything
yet.
I
just
had
to
be
willing
to
believe,
willing
enough
to
do
this
experiment
to
take
a
shot
and
say,
OK,
well,
I'm
going
to
take
these
particular
actions
that
these
people
took.
And
I
found
that
when
I
took
them.
Now
on
the
other
side
of
it,
I'm
experiencing
a
form
of
contact
with
this
power.
I
can
now
hear
it
more
clearly,
I
can
feel
it
more
intensely,
I
can
answer
to
it
more
easily.
And
at
this
point,
then
it's
not
about
belief
anymore.
I
don't
have
to
be
willing
to
believe.
I
don't
have
to
believe
I
now
have
experience.
I
can
tell
you
that
I
have
experienced
this
power
in
my
life
and
that
I
could
not
and
would
not
be
here
sober
right
now
if
that
power
had
not
transformed
me
in
a
way
that
I
possibly
have
imagined.
I
don't
have
to
believe
anymore.
I
have
experience.
And
that's
a
profoundly
powerful
thing.
And
So
what
they
say
then
is
that,
you
know,
in
this
state,
they
said
we've
been
restored
to
sanity.
Now
that's
something
that
I
had
a
lot
of
confusion
about
because,
you
know,
anybody's
welcome
to
an,
a,
a
meeting
and
anybody
can
put
their
hand
up
and
share.
And
so
I
heard
lots
of
interesting
and
colorful
things,
you
know,
opinions
and
points
of
view
about
sanity
and
insanity.
And
oh,
I
was
old.
How
could
I
be
restored
to
sanity?
I
was
never
sane
or
oh,
I'm
so
insane.
You
know,
I
think
everybody's
always
talking
about
me.
And
I
think
every,
you
know,
all
these,
they
talk
about
something
very
clearly
when
they
talk
about
insanity
in
this
book.
If
you
finally
were
insanity
or
sanity.
And
as
you're
going
through,
you'll
see
it's
always
coupled
with
the
idea
of
the
first
drink.
The
insanity
is
that
with
no
booze
in
my
system
and
every
piece
of
evidence
that
my
life
is
going
to
fall
apart
if
I
pick
it
up,
my
brain
is
unable
to
recognize
that.
And
I
go,
sure,
why
not?
So
being
restored
to
sanity
just
means
one
very
simple
thing.
It
means
I
can
now
see
the
true
from
the
false
when
it
comes
to
this.
And
so
there's
all
this,
you
know,
I
don't
even,
I
don't
want
to
say
that
there's
controversy
over
recovered
or
not
recovered.
There
really
isn't.
You
know,
there's
people
who
have
had
the
experience
of
having
recovered,
and
I'm
one
of
them.
And
then
there
are
people
that
because
they
have
not
recovered,
they
choose
to
be
comfortable
with
the
opinion
that
it
is
impossible
to
recover.
I
don't
need
to
argue
with
them.
I
have
had
the
experience
that
I
am
recovered
from
alcoholism.
And
that
what
that
means
is
in
the
course
of
any
given
day,
the
only
time
I
think
about
alcohol
is
when
there's
somebody
sitting
in
front
of
me
that's
suffering,
that
I
need
to
talk
about
alcohol
in
order
to
be
helpful
to
that
person.
And
that
99.9%
of
the
time
is
the
extent
of
my
relationship
to
alcohol,
whether
it's,
whether
it's,
you
know,
practically
or
in
my
head,
in
my
heart.
And,
and
it's
a
beautiful
place
to
be.
Because
if
I
had,
if
sobriety
was
about
what
it
was
for
me
when
I
first
came
into
a,
a,
which
is
sitting
in
a
meeting,
like,
Oh
my
God,
let
me
get
through
this.
And
like,
am
I
going
to
be
able
to
get
to
sleep
tonight
without
a
drink
in
my
system,
gripping
the
edge
of
the
chair,
watching
the
clock,
making
the
phone
calls?
If
that's
what
sobriety
is
about,
I
would
not
still
be
here
today.
I
wouldn't
be
capable
of
maintaining
that
for
too
long.
They
say
that
the
problem
has
been
removed.
It
does
not
exist
for
us
as
long
as
we
remain
in
fit
spiritual
condition.
You
know,
does
that
mean
people
will
say,
oh,
well,
oh,
so
you're
recovered,
so
now
you
can
drink?
No,
I,
I
have
a
physical
problem.
I
will
never
be
able
to
ingest
alcohol
safely,
but
what
that
means
is,
as
long
as
I
remain
in
this
connection
with
God,
I'm
protected
from
that
form
of
insanity.
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
temptations,
the
urges
and
the
inability
to
say
no
when
the
thing
comes
up.
So
there's
a
qualification
to
that.
You
know,
they
say
this
is
this
is
what
we
experience
as
long
as
we
remain
in
fit
spiritual
condition,
right?
So
I
can
tell
you
that
as
long
as
I
continue
doing
what
I'm
doing
now,
I
will
never
pick
up
a
drink
again.
You
know,
there
are
people
that
presented
sobriety
as
though,
oh,
I
could
be
doing
everything
that
a
a
suggest
and
just
be
strolling
down
the
street
one
day
and
get
struck
drunk,
you
know,
And
if
that's
the
case,
then
really
why
bother?
You
know,
there
is
much
more
available
here
than
that.
I
can
say
as
long
as
I
continue
to
do
this,
I
will
not
drink.
They
they
use
an
interesting
phrase.
They
talk
about
permanent
sobriety,
right.
Intensive
work
with
others
was
vital
to
permanent
recovery.
But
at
the
same
time,
I
have
to
acknowledge
to
this
room,
I
may
die
drunk.
And
it's
not
because
a
doesn't
work
and
it's
not
because
there's
no
God.
It's
because
I
may
stop
doing
this
Monday
and
they
they
make
a
statement,
you
know,
and
and
I
really
appreciate
thinking
about
the
we
in
this
book
as
it's
the
original
fellowship.
It's
not
us
today.
I
could
look
around
the
rooms
that
I
go
to
today
and
say,
Oh
yeah,
it
seems
to
be
easy
for
people
to
let
up
on
the
spiritual
program
of
action
and
rest
on
their
laurels.
I
see
it
happening
all
around
me.
But
it's
another
thing
to
realize
the
original
fellowship,
the
1st
100
that
we're
saying
we've
recovered,
we're
happy,
joyous
and
free.
That
we've
entered
into
conscious
contact
with
your
creators.
The
most
important
fact
of
our
lives,
like
they're
really
shouting
this
from
the
rooftops.
They've
created
this
fellowship.
They
were
saying
it's
easy
for
us
to
let
up
on
the
spiritual
program
of
action
and
rest
on
our
laurels.
So
that
does
two
things
for
me.
You
know,
on
the
one
hand,
it
cuts
me
a
little
bit
of
slack
that
when
I
do
find
that
I
step
back
in
some
way
that
I'm
distance.
I
don't
have
to
now
whip
myself
and
say,
Oh
my
God,
I've
gotten
this
all
wrong,
You
know,
OK,
so
I
can
say,
yes,
I'm
in.
I'm
in
good
company.
I'm
having
an
experience
similar
to
to
the
one
that
they're
talking
about
in
here,
but
at
the
same
time
need
to
keep
very
aware
of
what
they
then
say.
We're
headed
for
trouble
if
we
do
that.
Alcohol
is
a
subtle
foe.
We're
not
sure
of
alcoholism.
So
now
we're
in
the
realm
of
a
cab
recovered.
Now
what?
And
one
of
the
things
I
love,
you
know,
they,
they
point
out
in
here
that
alcohol
is
just
a
symptom,
right?
So
they
say
a
much
more
important
demonstration
of
our
principles
lies
before
us
in
our
homes,
occupations
and
affairs.
And
that
this
is
something
that,
and
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
line,
I'm
going
to
let
it
go.
This
is
the
this
is
the
important
aspect
of
my
surprise.
Oh,
it's
we've
made
a
good
beginning,
right.
The
elimination
of
alcohol
is
just
the
beginning.
That's
what
it
is.
I
used
to
think
of
that
as,
oh,
OK,
so
just
not,
not
picking
up
a
drink.
It's
just
the
beginning.
And
now
we
need
to
start
the
steps,
you
know?
And
I
came
to
find
through
further
study
of
it,
that
what
they're
really
talking
about
is,
they
say
in
the
original
manuscript,
elimination
of
the
liquor
problem,
it's
just
the
beginning.
So
when
they
say
now
in
the
10
step,
the
problem
has
been
removed.
Now
this
is
just
the
beginning,
the
problem
being
removed.
My
recovering
from
alcoholism
is
the
beginning.
And
now
it's
how
do
I
go
out
into
the
world
and
live?
Now
I've
got
a
spirit
that's
awake
and
I've
got
no
booze
in
my
system.
And
how
do
I
interact
with
the
same
world
that
I
seem
to
function
so
poorly?
And
before
people
in
it
haven't
changed,
what
do
I
do?
So
they
say
they
had
to
continue
to
take
personal
inventory.
If
I'm
continuing
to
do
something,
I've
obviously
been
doing
it
before.
And
so
I
look
to,
OK,
where
did
I
take
inventory?
I
took
it
in
the
fourth
step
when
resentment,
dishonesty,
self
centeredness,
you
know,
when
these
things
crop
up,
when
I
see
something
pop
up
that
is
not
in
line
with
spiritual
principles,
I
need
to
bring
my
consciousness
to
the
moment
and
be
able
to
spot
that
and
be
honest
enough
to
acknowledge
it.
I
mentioned
last
week,
like
God
takes
the
compulsion
for
the
defect
away.
But
if
I'm
not
paying
attention
to
what
I'm
doing,
I
could
be
running
around
acting
out
all
kinds
of
crazy
things
that
aren't
in
line
with
spiritual
principles
just
because
I'm
not
paying
attention.
I'm
not
thinking
about
what
I'm
doing.
So
Bill,
he
talks
in
in
his
story
about
he's
sort
of
outlining
the
steps
and
he
says
I
was
to
test
my
thinking
by
the
new
God
consciousness
within.
He's
talking
about
that,
that
10th
and
step,
you
know,
that
now
I've
got
to
now
that
the
past
is
behind
me
and
I'm
in
the
present
moment,
I
have
to
look
at
like,
what
am
I
doing
right
now?
And
is
this
in
line
with
spiritual
principles
or
am
I
beginning
to
build
a
new
resentment?
Am
I
beginning
to
cause
new
harms
that
later
on
down
the
line
I'm
just
going
to
have
to
inventory
those,
and
I'm
going
to
have
to
confess
those
and
I'm
going
to
have
to
make
amends
for
those.
And
so
instead
of
accumulating
new
garbage,
let
me
keep
that
Channel
clear.
He
says
common
sense
would
become
uncommon
sense,
right.
So
what
I
used
to
do
is
go
through
the
world
and
when
I
was
about
to
do
something,
if
somebody
cut
me
off
in
traffic,
there
would
be
this
thought
of,
oh,
OK,
well,
what
are
most
people
do
in
that
situation?
Oh,
I'll
flip
the
guy
to
burn
or
now
I'm
going
to
tailgate
him
or
whatever.
And
I
think,
well,
that's,
yeah,
that's
what
most
people
would
do
in
that
situation.
So
I
went
by
what
was
common
sense?
What
do
I,
what
do
I
hear?
How
do
I
hear
most
other
people
react?
But
what
they've
asked
me
to
do
at
different
points
in
this
process
is
to
look
around
at
the
world
and
see
that
the
results
that
normal
people
seem
to
be
getting
aren't
all
that
good.
And
then
if
they're
not
in
contact
with
the
power,
that
might
be
OK
for
them.
But
my
life
depends
on
it.
And
so
I
can't
use
common
sense.
I
have
to
test
my
thinking
by
an
uncommon
sense.
Continue
to
look
at
this
stuff.
You
know,
when
I
see
something
come
up,
be
willing
to
deal
with
it
right
there
in
the
moment.
That
may
mean
excusing
myself
from
the
situation
so
I
can
go
into
prayer.
Sometimes
it's
just
about
pausing
and
in
the
moment,
being
able
to
say,
you
know,
what
that
thing
I
just
said
to
you,
that's
not
really
the
truth.
Here's
what's
really
going
on.
You
know,
to
be
able
to
own
up
to
it,
to
be
able
to
apologize,
you
know,
to
have
a
situation
where
I'm,
I'm
in
a
store
and
I'm
dealing
with
the
clerk
and
they're,
you
know,
I'm
not
happy
with
the
policies.
And
so
I'm
rude
to
the
person.
I
walk
out,
I'm
going
out
to
the
parking
lot
and
there's
that
little
twinge,
there's
that
little
feeling
of
dis
ease
that
I
used
to
answer
with
a
drink.
I
can't
live
with
that
feeling.
So
let
me
shut
it
off.
You
know,
Well,
I
don't,
I
don't
want
to
go
back
to
that
having
to
shut
it
off
anymore.
So
it
means
now
I
have
to
address
it.
So
it
means
stopping,
turning
around
and
going
back
into
the
store
and
saying,
listen,
I'm
sorry.
I
just
I
snapped
at
you.
I
I
wasn't
getting
what
I
wanted
and
I
got
frustrated.
I
realized
it's
not
your
fault.
I
really
apologize
for
that.
You're
just
here
trying
to
do
your
job,
do
the
best
you
can.
And
you
know,
things
like
that
enable
me
to
continue
to
enjoy
Slife.
I,
I
hear
people
talk
sometimes
about
whether,
you
know,
do
we
write
the
stuff
out
or
not?
You
know,
a
lot
of
times
I
don't,
they
talk
when
they're
talking
about
the
11
step.
They
say,
you
know,
at
some
point,
like
we
start
to
become
more
and
more
along
the
plane
of
inspiration
as
this
goes,
right.
So
sometimes
I
have
an
experience
and
I'm
able
to
see
very
clearly
in
my
head,
here's
what's
going
on.
You
are
pride
and
entitlement.
And
so
that's
what
you
need
to
be
asked
to
have
taken.
That's
what
you
need
to
own
up
to.
You
know,
there's
other
times
when
something's
going
on
and
I
just
keep
thinking
about
what
they
did
or
I'm
not
able
to
see
quite
what's
going
on
in
me.
And
so
I
say
then
let
me
do
what
I
let
me
do
what
I
did
when
I
first
started
this
inventory.
Let
me
get
out
the
paper
and
actually
write
this
thing
through,
you
know,
and,
and
I,
and
ideally,
and
I
don't
do
this
all
the
time,
you
know,
but
call
somebody
and
talk
to
them
about
it,
you
know,
to
confess
where
I'm
at,
to
own
up
to
this
thing
so
that
other
people
who
know
me
on
this
path
are
able
to
see
if
I'm
headed
in
a
direction
that
they
can
start
to
like,
you
know,
bring
me
back
and,
and
say,
Damon,
it
looks
like
there's
some
things
that
this
has
been
coming
up
a
lot
recently.
You
might
want
to
take
a
look
at
this.
So
that's
the
the
sort
of
like
moment
to
moment
stuff
in
the
day.
Then
at
11,
they
talk
about,
you
know,
doing
this,
having
a
process
of
this
at
night
so
that
I
can
look
at
as
I'm
going
through
the
day,
I'm
trying
to
keep
an
eye
on
this
stuff
that
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
everything.
I'm
moving
around,
I'm
moving
around
and
I
might
miss
something.
And
so
let
me
take
some
time
at
night
and
sort
of
reflect
on
the
day
and
think
about
is
there
anything
that
now
that
I've
slowed
down
that
I
can
feel
in
my
gut
that
maybe
needs
to
be
addressed?
But
the
thing
I
really
wanted
to
say
about
11,
you
know,
on
the
on
the
shades
we
have
saw
through
prayer
and
meditation
to
improve
our
conscious
contact
with
God,
right?
And
so
we
talk
a
lot
about
prayer,
meditation,
prayer,
meditation.
If
I've
been
doing
half
of
what
they've
suggested
in
here,
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
prayer
and
meditation
throughout
all
of
the
steps
those
things
are
suggested.
So
that's
not
really
the
new
ground
here.
What
this
is
about
is
me
trying
to
improve
the
contact
that
I've
made
with
this
power.
You
know,
I
heard
a
lot
10
and
11/10/11
and
12
really
referred
to
as
maintenance
steps.
But
in
reading
them,
they
talk
about,
they
say
our
next
function
is
to
grow
in
understanding
and
effectiveness.
And
now
in
11,
we're
talking
about
improving
my
contact
with
this
power.
So
OK,
if
a
little
bit
of
contact
with
this
power
is
getting
me
some
ease
and
comfort,
let
me
see
what's
in
deeper
contact
is
going
to
bring
me.
And
if
this
is
enabling
me
to
be
more
effective
in
the
lives
of
others
and
be
more
helpful,
well
then
let
me
clear
out
that
Channel
further.
I
found
some
fantastic
things.
You
know,
11
for
me
is
about
exploration.
So,
you
know,
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
experiences
that
I've
had.
I
think
I
mentioned
when
I
was
talking
about
the
second
step,
there
was
an
attempt
made
to
raise
me
with
a
religion
and
I
was
not
having
it.
I,
it
was
not
my
concept
of
God.
And
I
was,
I
was
at
home
visiting
my
parents
for
a
weekend.
My
father
came
down
the
stairs
and
he
went
out
to
the
car
and
he
said,
OK,
I'm
going
to
church.
And,
you
know,
same
place
that
he
had
dragged
me
out
of
bed
kicking
and
screaming
when
I
was
a
kid.
All
the,
all
the
fighting
and
arguing
about
it,
you
know,
and
and
he
does
that
and
I'm
sitting
there
watching
television
and
I
don't
know
what
happened.
It
wasn't
a
conscious
thought.
I
found
my
body.
Just
get
up,
grab
my
shoes,
run
outside
carrying
my
shoes
and
say,
you
know
what?
I'm
going
to
go
with
you.
And
the
look
on
this
man's
face.
Was
like
he
didn't.
He
didn't
know
what
to
think.
He
didn't
know
what
to
say,
you
know,
and,
and
I
went
there
with
him
and
waiting
for
this
service
to
start.
And
I'm
and
I'm
in
prayer
asking
for
a
new
experience,
asking
for
an
open
mind.
And
I
can
see
the
he's
in
prayer
and
he's
praying
quietly,
but
he
says
out
loud
at
the
end,
thank
you
for
bringing
my
son
back
to
me.
Such
an
amazing
experience.
Now
the
important
thing
that
I
have
to
tell
you
is
that
service
ended.
And
I
said,
this
is
not
my
concept
of
God,
I
do
not
belong
here,
right?
But
it
was
such
a
fantastic
thing
to
feel
and
experience
that
willingness
and
to
see
it
through
different
eyes
to
say,
how
am
I
going
to
experience
this
practice
with
the
spirit
that's
awake
and
how
am
I
going
to
experience
it
with
my
prejudice
set
to
the
side.
I
also,
I
dug
into
like
early,
early
a
literature,
the
Oxford
group,
you
know,
we
get
our
program
from
a,
from
a
religious
group.
You
know,
originally
there
was
this
Oxford
group
and
it
was
a
Christian
fellowship
and
we've
grown
in
a
lot
of
ways
and
taken
the
doors
off
of
those,
those
boundaries.
But
I
was
curious
as
to
what
were
these
people
doing?
And
one
thing
I
found
was
a
fantastic
practice.
It's
a,
a
practice
they
called
How
to
Listen
to
God.
And
there's
a,
there's
an
early
Oxford
group
pamphlet
where
they
spell
out
this
practice
of
here's
the
first
thing
that
you
do.
Here's
the
next
thing
that
you
do,
Here's
the
next
thing
that
you
do.
And
it's
a
process
of
going
to
God
and
bringing
a
specific
question
into
meditation.
And
it's
interesting
because
if
you
read
our
description
of
meditation
in
the
11th
here
and
look
at
this,
you
can
see
that
they're
really
talking
about
the
same
thing.
But
when
they
say
in
our
book,
we
can
make
some
definite
and
practical
suggestions,
it's
interesting.
I
found
that
this
How
to
listen
to
God,
the
suggestions
were
so
much
more
definite
and
practical.
I
knew
exactly
what
to
do
at
each
step
of
the
way.
And
so
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
help
from
that.
And
it's
something
that
I've
gotten
to
pass
on
to
Sponsee.
You
know,
there's
not
a
direction
to
do
that
in
the
book,
so
I
can't
tell
them
you
must
do
this,
but
I
can
say,
listen,
it's
what
a
lot
of
the
early
guys
were
doing
and
I've
gotten
a
great
deal
of
help
from
it.
So
if
you're
interested,
here's
the
thing
that's
available
to
you.
I,
I
wanted
to
reach
out,
look
at
other
spiritual
practices
of
the
world.
You
know,
I
was
in
a,
I
was
in
a
psych
program.
I
started
going
back
to
school
and
I
was
studying
psychology.
I
wanted
to
go
into
counseling
and
I
took
a
class.
I,
I
took
a
religions
class
just
to
see
and,
and
it
was
comparative
religions,
which
is
basically
like
looking
at,
at,
at
the
traditions
of
the
world
and
seeing
not
how
are
they
different
from
each
other,
but
like,
but
what's
in
common
in
all
this?
What
are
the
principles
that
unrelated
underlie
these
things?
Forget
about
the
names,
dates
and
places,
you
know,
what,
what
do
they
all
have
in
common?
And
it
really
lit
me
up.
And
I
found
that
in
these
classes
I
was
having
more
powerful
spiritual
experiences
than
most
of
the
meetings
that
I
had
been
at
that
week.
You
know,
no,
I
hadn't
found
some
groups
like
this
yet,
you
know,
but
I
found
that
I
wanted
to
study
it
more
and
I
ended
up
adding
it
as
a
second
major.
And
Oh
my
God,
I
first
of
all,
I
still
can't
believe
that
I'm
able
to
say
this.
And
secondly,
I
can't
believe
that
I'm
coming
out
to
a
A
in
this.
But
I
ended
up
finishing
that
program
and
saying,
you
know
what?
I've
seen
lights
go
off
in
people's
eyes
as
they're
hearing
about
this
stuff.
And
I'm
having
all
these
powerful
experiences
and
I
think
I
want
to
be
able
to
teach
these
things
in
the
same
way.
And
so
I
went
to
a
seminary
program.
If
there's
anything
more
miraculous
in
this
world
than
my
having
not
having
a
drink
or
a
drug
in
my
system
in
the
last
10
1/2
years,
it's
the
island
to
seminary.
Because
if
you
told
me
that
years
ago
that
that
was
going
to
happen,
I
probably
would
have
taken
my
life
to
prevent
it.
That's
how
vehemently
anti
religious
I
was.
I
still,
I
do
not
have
a
particular
system
of
belief.
I
still
don't
know
what
it
is
that
I'm
praying
to.
I
don't
understand
this
power.
I
can't
describe
it
to
you.
I
don't
have
dogma
around
it.
I
don't
have
a
particular
tradition.
I
do
and
I
don't.
I
found
a
faith
tradition
that
is
defined
very
much
like
Alcoholics
Anonymous
by
they
say
we're
not
here
to
talk
about
a
particular
belief
system.
We're
here
to
study
spiritual
principles.
You
believe
whatever
you
want.
So
you
have
people
there
with
all
kinds
of
different
beliefs
systems.
That
was
the
only
home
that
I
would
have
felt
comfortable
in.
And
so
I
felt
like
this
is
what
I
need
to
do
with
my
life.
You
know,
I
need
to
find
some
way
to
continue
to,
to
grow
in
this
and
talk
about
this.
I
got
involved
with
something
that
has
become
very
dear
to
my
heart.
There's
this
thing
step
by
step,
which
I
stumbled
upon
while
I
was
going
to
school.
It's
basically
like
it's
a
it's
a
cross
between
a
service,
a
worship
service,
and
a
meeting
where
it's
people
from
all
different
with
all
different
addictions
from
all
different
fellowships
coming
together.
Not
to
talk
about
how
to
stay
away
from
their
thing,
but
how
to
get
closer
to
this
power
and
looking
at
looking
at
spiritual
texts
from
around
the
world
and
from
all
different
traditions
and
how
do
they
match
up
with
what
our
program
talks
about?
You
know,
so
that's
been
a
big
part
of
my
spiritual
practice
times
that
I
have
laxed
in.
You
know,
I
haven't
had
as
many
spawn
season
my
life.
That
has
been
a
form
of
being
able
to
carry
a
message
just
like
our
original
12
step
said,
having
had
a
spiritual
awakening
as
a
result
of
these
steps,
we
tried
to
carry
this
message
to
others,
especially
Alcoholics,
is
what
they
said,
because
they
they
say
we're
sure
our
way
of
life
has
its
advantages
for
all
right.
So
I
why
do
I
want
to
limit
this
experience
to
only
other
addicts?
Like
let
me
offer
this
to
everyone.
And
that
brings
me
I'm
going
to
squeeze
in
12.
I'm
sorry,
I
apologize
for
that.
But,
you
know,
maybe
it
makes
sense
that
I
didn't
talk
as
much
about
12
because
I
personally
feel
like
there
doesn't
need
to
be
a
direction
for
12.
You
know,
if
I
really
have
had
a
spiritual
awakening
as
the
result
of
this
process,
if
I
was
suffering
and
agonizing
in
my
life
before
and
that
solution
has
been
given
me
where
I
had
an
experience
like
they
described
feeling
reborn,
not
in
the
afterlife
here
and
now
feeling
reborn,
If
I've
really
had
that
experience,
nobody's
got
to
tell
me
to
talk
to
people
about
it.
I
want
to
jump
up
out
of
my
chair
and
run
and
be
like,
do
you
have
any
idea
what's
possible
here?
I,
I
moved
out
here
and
I
found
some
wonderful
groups
and
wonderful
solution.
And
all
I
can
do
is
think
about
the
meetings
that
I
used
to
go
to
in
Manhattan,
in
Brooklyn,
where
people
are
suffering
and
have
no
idea
that
something
like
what's
happening
in
this
room
is
going
on.
And
I
feel
like,
what
am
I
even
doing
here?
Like,
let's
get
up
and
go
to
the
city.
Come
on,
get
your
cars.
You
know,
I've
learned
so
much
more
about
these
principles
and
about
this
program
by
taking
other
people
through
it
then
by
me
being
taken
through
it
myself.
You
know,
this
is
really
where
the
joy
comes
in.
And
you
know,
I,
I
guess
I'll,
I'll
say
to,
I
never
say
no
when
someone
asks
for
help.
If
somebody
asks
for
my
number,
somebody
asks
for
sponsorship.
And
it's
got
as
an
interesting
way
of
working
things
out.
I
mean,
if
I
had
to
take
through
all
12
steps,
every
person
that's
asked
me
for
help,
it
would
absolutely
be
thoroughly
impossible.
But
the
reality
is
most
people
that
ask
don't
follow
through.
And
so
I
have
the
freedom
to
be
able
to
say
yes
to
everyone
and
let
God
sort
out
or
let
their
fear
sort
out
what
my,
what
my
load
is
actually
going
to
be.
And
there's
times
when
it's
really
intense
and
I'm
sponsoring
a
whole
stable
of
guys.
And
I
feel
like,
wow,
I,
this
is
a
little
too
much
for
me
to
handle
right
now,
you
know,
and
I
don't
know,
you
know,
then
a
couple
of
the
people,
they
drift
off
into
space.
They
got
an
inventory
to
work
on
and
they
don't
feel
like
it.
They
got
better
ideas
and
a
couple
will
drop
off.
And
then
a
few
weeks
later,
somebody
else
comes
along
and
a
couple
more.
You
know,
it's
been
a
wonderful,
wonderful
journey.
I
wish
that
I
had
left
more
time
to
talk
about
12,
but
I
don't
want
to
take
up
hearing
from
you,
so
I'm
going
to
stop
now.
Thank
you
for
this
experience.