Karl M. from Covina, CA telling his story at the Men Among Men Groups's conference in Reykjavik, Iceland
Good
evening.
My
name's
Carl.
I'm
an
alcoholic.
I
have
no
idea
whether
what
he
just
told
you
was
true
or
not.
I
do
want
to
thank
Arna
for
arranging
to
have
me
here.
It's
always
an
honor
and
a
privilege
to
be
anywhere
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
But
I
got
to
tell
you,
I
love
being
in
Iceland.
I
am
of
Icelandic
descent.
And
I
actually
am
absolutely...
very
proud
to
be
be
an
icelander.
I
want
to
thank
Arnor.
He
took
me
today
to
to
a
genealogy
society
and
we
tracked
down
some
of
my
relatives
and
and
I
had
known
this
for
many
many
years
that
my
great-grandfather,
Bjarna
Yonison
was
a
he
left
Iceland,
he
left
a
wife
and
a
daughter
Haldora
Bionadotter
here
and
he
married
Thor
and
Elizabeth
on
the
ship
on
the
way
to
Canada.
So
he's
now
that
he's
also
a
documented
alcoholic.
So
he's
an
alcoholic
and
a
bigamist.
So
I
come
by
my
alcoholism
from
you.
That
is...
And
Arner
and
I
found
out
that
we
are
actually
related.
We
had
them
track
it,
and
we
found
the
culprit
that
we're
related
to.
1656,
we
have
a
common
ancestor.
And
I
really
enjoyed
the
first
speaker.
I
can't
pronounce
you.
Katya?
Something?
Didn't
understand
a
word
you
said,
but
I
could
tell
you
love
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
I
want
to
tell
another
story
that
made
me
so
proud
to
be
in
Icelander.
This
is
my
fourth
time
in
Iceland.
And
on
my
third
time
in
2003,
I
was
staying
at
a
bed
and
breakfast
downtown,
and
I
woke
up
very
early
on
a
Sunday
morning.
and
maybe
5.30,
6
a.m.
and
I
decided
to
take
a
walk
into
downtown
Reykjavik.
And
there
were
hundreds
of
you
on
the
street.
Men
were
previously
sharply
dressed,
but
they
were
passed
out
in
doorways.
There
were
women
who
were
nicely
dressed,
but
they
had
blood
on
the
side
of
their
face,
and
they
were
helping
each
other
up
the
street.
And
in
the
United
States,
when
you're
at
a
sporting
event,
they
play
the
national
anthem,
and
you
stand
there,
and
you
are
to
be
proud
to
be
an
American,
or
at
least
act
like
you're
proud
to
be
an
American.
And...
And
that
morning,
as
I
stood
there
and
watched
you
behave,
I
was
just
so
proud
to
be
an
Icelander.
I
just...
Oh.
And
then
I
saw
the
street
cleaners
sweeping
everybody
up
and
rounding
you
up.
That's
a...
Oh,
anyway,
I'm
an
alcoholic.
It's
the
most
important
thing
I
can
tell
you
about
myself
is
that
I'm
an
alcoholic.
And
the
reason
I
believe
I'm
an
alcoholic
is
really
very
simple.
I've
got
a
very
bizarre
and
strange
relationship
with
alcohol.
That's
why
I'm
alcoholic,
no
other
reason.
I
will
tell
you
a
bunch
of
stories.
However,
the
reason
I'm
an
alcoholic
is
because
I've
got
a
very
strange
relationship
with
alcohol.
And
this
first
part
of
this
strange
relationship
that
I
have
with
alcohol
happens
when
I
drink
it.
A
very
strange
thing
happens
when
I
drink
alcohol.
The
book
calls
it
an
allergic
reaction,
and
the
book
says
the
symptom
of
this
allergic
reaction
that
I
get
when
I
drink
alcohol
is
what
they
call
the
phenomena
of
craving.
And
the
best
way
that
I
can
describe
this
thing
that
the
book
calls
the
phenomena
craving
is
that
whenever
I
drink
booze,
the
more
I
drink,
the
thirstier
I
get.
It
happens
with
nothing
else.
Just
booze.
An
example
of
that
is
I've
got
this
glass
of
water
up
here.
And
over
the
next
hour
or
so
that
I'm
talking
with
you,
I
will
probably
drink
half.
I
don't
know.
If
my
mouth
gets
dry,
I
might
finish
this
whole
glass
of
water.
But
I
can
absolutely
guarantee
you
that
once
I
finish
this
glass
of
water,
I
am
not
going
to
go
get
a
case
of
water
and
lock
myself
in
my
hotel
room.
I'm
not.
Okay.
But
if
that
was
the
only
thing
that
made
me
alcoholic,
this
strange
physical
reaction,
this
craving
that
I
get,
if
that
was
the
only
thing
that
made
me
alcoholic,
well
then,
just
say
no
would
solve
alcoholism.
In
the
early
80s,
our
president's
wife,
Nancy
Reagan,
came
out
and
had
a
national
campaign
saying,
just
say
no.
Right?
If...
If
that
were
true,
I
would,
and
I
imagine
you
would,
just
go,
ha
ha!
No.
And
just
go
on
and
live
a
happy,
successful
life
and
just
saying
no.
But
I
have
this
other
part
of
my
strange
relationship
with
alcohol.
And
that
happens
when
I'm
not
drinking
it.
Of
and
by
myself,
if
I
don't
drink
for
a
day,
a
week,
or
a
month...
I
seem
to
have
this
mind
that
is
able
to
paint
a
picture
that
makes
it
okay
to
take
another
drink,
no
matter
what
the
pain,
humiliation,
and
suffering
of
a
day,
a
week,
or
a
month
ago
was,
and
it
does
not
matter
whether
it
was
my
pain
in
humiliation
or
your
pain
in
humiliation.
It
does
not
matter.
But
sooner
or
later,
my
mind
is
able
to
rationalize
and
justify
my
walk
back
to
the
next
drink
at
all
costs.
So
I
can't
drink
successfully
because
this
physical
craving
that
happens
when
I
drink,
but
I
cannot,
on
my
own,
not
drink
successfully.
I'm
damned
if
I
do.
I'm
damned
if
I
don't.
It's
the
ultimate
catch-22
we
call
alcoholism.
Because
if
I
could
do
either
one
of
those
two
things,
if
I
could
drink
successfully,
that's
what
I
would
be
doing
tonight.
I
would
be
drinking
successfully.
Or
if
on
my
own,
I
could
not
drink
successfully...
That's
what
I
would
be
doing
tonight.
I
would
just
be
at
home
not
drinking,
but
I
can't
do
either
one
of
those.
So
this
is
why
I'm
alcoholic.
And
I
set
this
relationship
up
with
alcohol
that
I
just
described
to
you
right
from
the
get-go
when
I
first
started
drinking.
And
I
started
drinking
a
lot
later
than
a
lot
of
people
in
AA.
I
was
11.
Yeah.
I
feel
that's
kind
of
late.
I
mean,
I
was
feeling
very
old
as
I
was
listening
to
our
first
speaker
because
I
did
the
math,
and
I
got
sober
when
he
was
three
years
old.
Our
family
lived
in
Seattle.
A
typical
morning
for
me
in
seventh
grade
would
be
I'd
show
up
early
for
school,
not
for
study
hall
or
anything,
but
to
meet
my
new
friends
of
the
very
edge
of
the
school
property,
Losers
Corner.
It's
where
kids
would
hang
out
in
early
morning
smoke
cigarettes
and
try
to
look
cool.
And
we
would
also
have
what
I
like
to
call
the
playground
cocktail.
Okay.
That
is
a
jar
full
of
whatever
we
could
rip
off
out
of
the
parents'
liquor
cab
the
night
before.
And
that
jar
is
very
scary
because
none
of
us
have
been
to
bartending
school
yet.
So
there
are
equal
amounts
of
whiskey,
vodka,
cream
to
mint,
vermouth
in
that
jar.
I
mean,
there's
green
things
floating
around
in
that
jar.
And
you
can
imagine
five
or
six
of
us,
11,
12-year-old
trying
to
choke
that
down.
Oh!
And
of
course
it
was
the
early
1970s,
so
we
were
smoking
what
we
call
commercial
pot.
Anybody
remember
that
stuff?
Four
finger
lids,
$10
a
bag,
seeds
and
stems,
and
the
whole
bit.
And
it
was
even
before
Ziploc
bags
were
invented,
when
it
would
just
be
a
regular
Glad
sandwich
bag,
and
as
you'd
roll
it
up,
there'd
be
like
nine
people
spit
on
it.
Right?
And
we
pack
all
those
seeds
and
stems
and
leaves
into
a
homemade
pipe,
maybe
made
out
of
plumbing
fittings
and
a
screen.
Or
if
you're
really
desperate
that
morning,
it
would
be
a
toilet
paper
roll
with
aluminum
foil
and
pin
holes
in
it.
Were
you
guys
there
too?
Yeah.
It's
at
this
point
that
many
people
that
speak
in
meetings
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
they
often
interrupt
themselves.
And
they
say
something
like
this.
I
don't
mean
to
offend
anybody,
but
drugs
are
a
part
of
my
story.
I
know
and
understand
and
have
respect
for
what
they're
attempting
to
do
when
they
apologize
for
that.
They're
attempting
to
protect
singleness
of
purpose
or
show
respect
for
it.
Vidally
important
aspect
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
But
that
idea
aside,
I
still
think
it's
a
very
bizarre
practice
for
alcoholics
to
apologize
to
other
alcoholics
for
doing
drugs
while
drinking
or
in
between
drunks.
You
see,
I
understand
apologizing
to
police
officers
and
judges
and
people
that
may
still
love
us.
But
I
don't
know
why
we
apologize
to
each
other.
In
fact,
the
most
bizarre
example
of
that
I've
ever
seen,
I
was
in
a
big
meeting
in
West
Los
Angeles
a
number
of
years
ago.
And
that
night,
the
speaker
was
up
there
giving
one
of
the
most
ugly,
heinous,
blow-by-blow
drunk
allogues
I've
ever
heard.
And
I've
got
to
tell
you,
when
I'm
out
there
listening
to
a
speaker,
and
when
his
story
gets
ugly,
the
uglier
it
gets,
the
more
excited
I
get.
That
night
I
was
on
the
edge
of
my
chair
drooling,
looking
up
with
this
guy,
go,
go,
go,
go,
go,
go,
go,
go,
go.
And
at
one
point
in
this
really
ugly
story,
this
speaker
said,
you
know,
I
had
four
DUIs,
that's
driving
under
the
influence.
I
had
four
of
them.
I
was
in
front
of
the
judge.
And
the
judge
said,
if
I
get
one
more
DUI,
I'm
going
to
prison
for
sure.
He
says,
two
weeks
later,
I'm
on
the
freeway.
And
I
hit
a
family
of
four,
and
I'm
in
a
blackout.
And
I
wound
up
in
prison.
And
in
prison,
I
sodomized
men.
I
was
sodomized.
And
I
don't
mean
to
offend
anybody,
but
I
did
some
drugs,
too.
Okay.
I
was
the
only
one
that
thought
that
was
strange
that
night.
Everybody
else
was,
oh,
okay.
So
by
the
time
I'm
14
there
in
Seattle,
I'm
the
neighborhood
drunk.
I'm
the
neighborhood
pot
dealer.
I
forgot
to
mention,
but
my
father
was
a
neighborhood
Lutheran
minister.
No,
he
was
not
laughing.
And
my
parents,
really
good
people,
really,
really
good
people.
And
they
tried
to
help.
They
saw
what
was
happening
to
me,
but
they
didn't
understand
it.
See,
they
blamed
my
problems.
Well,
you
couldn't
miss
it.
You
couldn't
miss
what
was
happening.
Because
by
the
time
I'm
14,
I'm
growing
my
hair
down
in
front
of
my
very
bloodshot
eyes,
and
my
vocabulary
at
14
was,
whoa.
Whoa,
that's
my
vocabulary.
I'm
regularly
locked
in
my
bedroom
listening
to
Led
Zeppelin,
Black
Sabbath,
deep
purple,
getting
all
the
necessary
tools
for
living
from
those
lyrics,
you
know.
And
my
parents
tried
to
help.
They
tried
to
help,
but
they
didn't
understand
that
their
son
was
alcoholic.
They
blamed
my
problems
on
people,
places,
and
things.
They
thought,
if
we
can
get
them
away
from
that
damn
group
of
kids
he's
hanging
out
with,
things
will
get
better.
If
we
can
get
them
out
of
that
damn
public
school
system,
things
get
better.
They
tried
all
of
the
above.
But
you
see,
I'm
an
alcoholic.
My
problems
are
not
based
upon
people,
place,
and
things.
My
problems
are
based
upon
my
physical
and
mental
relationship
to
alcohol.
You
see,
if
you
change
the
people,
places,
and
things
in
somebody's
life
like
mine,
all
that
happens
is
that
I'm
loaded
with
different
people,
in
different
places,
ruining
different
things.
That's
all
that
happens.
So
by
the
time
I
was
maybe
close
to
18,
I
barely
scraped
out
of
the
public
school
system
after
being
kicked
out
of
the
private
school
system.
I
barely
scraped
out
of
the
public
school
system
there
in
Seattle.
And
my
parents
decided
that
Seattle
is
the
problem.
If
we
can
get
them
out
of
Seattle,
things
to
get
better.
So
they
sent
me
300
miles
away
to
Washington
State
University,
and
I
spent
three
years
at
that
university
on
my
parents'
money.
And
in
that
three
years,
I
got
almost
10
credits.
At
any
given
time,
my
grade
point
average
matched
my
blood
alcohol
content
about
a
.25.
I
did
nothing
at
that
school.
By
the
time
I
was
22,
this
little
story
I'm
about
to
tell
you
will
let
you
know
exactly
where
I
stood
with
my
family.
Now,
my
father
was
Swedish,
my
mother
is
Icelandic,
therefore
I
looked
like
a
polar
bear.
And
I...
But
at
Christmas
time,
my
parents
wouldn't
just
send
out,
and
I
don't
know
whether
this
is
a
Scandinavian
thing
or
whether
it's
a
Lutheran
thing,
I
don't
know.
But
at
Christmas
time,
my
parents
wouldn't
just
send
out
Christmas
cards
to
their
friends
and
relatives.
My
parents
would
send
out
this
big,
long
Christmas
letter
that
said
everything
the
family
had
been
doing
that
year.
And
when
I
was
about
22
years
old,
I
got
a
hold
of
one
of
these
letters
that
had
been
sent
out
the
previous
Christmas.
And
as
I
read
it,
it
let
me
know
exactly
where
I
stood
with
my
family.
Now
the
first
paragraph
talked
about
what
my
parents
had
been
doing
that
year,
another
impressive
year,
I'm
sure.
The
next
paragraph
talked
about
what
the
Morris
children
had
been
doing
that
year,
and
that
paragraph
went
something
like
this.
Our
oldest
daughter,
Christina,
just
graduated
from
Cornell
University
in
Ithaca,
New
York,
with
a
master's
degree
in
human
resources.
She's
now
working
for
a
large
pharmaceutical
company
in
the
Midwest.
She
traveled
to
Europe
this
summer.
She
saw
this,
she
saw
that.
Her
hobbies
are
this,
this,
and
this.
She's
a
very
happy
young
woman.
We
are
very
proud
of
her.
Our
oldest
son
Eric
just
graduated
from
Western
Washington
State
University
with
a
degree
in
marketing.
He's
now
working
for
a
large
advertising
firm
here
in
downtown
Seattle.
He
loves
to
golf.
He
loves
to
travel.
He's
engaged
to
be
married
to
this
wonderful
woman
named
Mary
Lou,
who
works
for
a
very
small
company
here
in
Seattle
named
Microsoft.
It
was
small
at
one
time.
And
they
love
to
golf
together.
They
love
to
travel
together.
He's
a
very
happy
young
man.
We
are
very
proud
of
him.
Our
youngest
son,
Carl,
just
turned
22.
It's
about
this
same
time
that
a
really
bad
night
happened.
It
would
take
me
till
breakfast
to
describe
everything
that
happened,
so
I'm
going
to
just
say
it
in
one
sentence.
A
really
bad
night
happened,
so
I
joined
the
Navy.
It
was
a
bad
night.
Okay.
And
what
I'm
about
to
tell
you
should
scare
you
if
you
fear
the
United
States
security.
But
on
my
way
into
the
Navy,
I
passed
a
potential
test.
They
call
it
the
ASVAP
test.
And
this
test
that
I
took
qualified
me
to
become
a
nuclear
engineer.
That
should
concern
you.
that
the
United
States
Navy
would
even
think
maybe,
possibly,
or
even
remotely,
about
putting
somebody
like
me
near
anything
nuclear.
However,
they
made
me
take
another
test
when
I
showed
up
at
boot
camp,
and
I
could
not
pass
that
test.
That
test,
they
call
a
urinalysis
test,
is
what
they
call
that.
And
I
still
remember,
I
had
been
in
boot
camp
for
about
a
week,
and
a
master's-at-arms,
that's
like
the
military
police,
came
into
the
barracks.
And
he
had
a
clipboard,
and
there
was
about
five
or
six
names
on
that
clipboard,
and
I
knew
my
name
would
be
on
that
clipboard.
We
were
taken
out
of
the
boot
camp
barracks,
and
we
were
taken
over
to
the
other
side
of
the
Great
Lakes
Naval
Base
to
the
administrative
side.
And
the
other
men
were
taken
into
one
office,
and
I
was
taken
into
another
office.
I
was
marched
right
into
the
commanding
officer's
office,
the
man
who
ran
the
whole
Great
Lakes
Naval
Base.
I
mean,
it
was
a
big
oak
desk
in
his
office
and
pictures
of
naval
vessels
on
the
wall.
And
the
man
behind
this
desk
had
so
much
gold
on
that
would
blind
you
on
a
bad
morning.
And
he
asked
me
my
name,
and
I
gave
him
my
name.
And
this
would
have
been
the
early
80s.
And
so
he
had
this
telephone
on
this
big
desk.
And
attached
to
the
telephone
was
a
speakerphone
attachment.
And
he
pushed
the
button
on
the
speakerphone
attachment.
And
into
this
speakerphone,
he
said,
Walter,
that's
my
father's
name.
My
father
had
been
a
reservist
chaplain
in
the
United
States
Navy
at
that
time
for
over
40
years.
This
was
an
old
World
War
II
buddy
of
my
father's.
And
so
into
this
phone,
this
man
said,
Walt,
out
of
consideration
for
our
long-term
friendship,
I
thought
I
would
call
you
first
before
I
took
any
action.
But
your
son
has
gone
positive
on
his
first
year
analysis
test,
and
I
should
be
kicking
him
out
right
now.
but
out
of
consideration
for
our
long-term
friendship
I
wanted
to
ask
you
what
do
you
feel
we
should
do
with
your
son?
Now
normally
if
you
met
my
father
just
in
his
body
language
and
in
his
voice
you
could
tell
that
this
man
was
very
passionate
about
life
that
he
was
very
grateful
for
what
many
of
the
experiences
that
he'd
had
the
privilege
of
having
in
his
life
you
could
tell
that
when
you
would
meet
him
you
would
feel
it
in
his
voice
and
in
his
body
language
but
there
was
another
voice
that
would
come
out
and
it
was
a
voice
like
somebody
had
just
kicked
him
below
the
belt
And
I
had
heard
that
voice
many
times,
and
it
was
always
when
he
was
dealing
with
me.
And
that
was
the
voice
that
I
heard
come
through
that
telephone
that
day
as
I
stood
there,
and
I
heard
my
father's
very
weak
and
destroyed
voice
say,
it's
just
none
of
my
concern
anymore.
Click
dial
tone.
Even
as
I
stand
here
today,
I
can
still
hear
that
e
of
the
dial
tone
as
the
man
looked
up
at
me.
That
man
decided
to
keep
me
in
the
Navy
anyway,
but
they
took
away
that
nuclear
status
thing.
Thank
God
for
you
guys.
And
a
year
and
a
half
later,
I'm
a
lower
rank
than
when
I
first
came
in.
That
can
really
happen
to
anybody.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
this,
but
in
order
to
survive
as
a
low-ranking
enlisted
man
in
the
United
States
Navy,
all
you
have
to
do
is
show
up
in
the
same
place
each
day
in
a
uniform.
You
just
have
to
show
up
where
you
left
the
day
before
in
a
uniform,
and
you
can
get
by.
I
cannot
accomplish
that.
This
apparently
was
my
problem.
I
would
be
out
in
the
middle
of
Pacific
Ocean
and
I
would
look
at
my
surroundings.
I
would
look
and
I
go,
by
God,
I'm
in
the
middle
of
Pacific
Ocean.
I'm
on
a
big
gray
ship.
I'm
in
a
uniform.
No
doubt
about
it,
I
am
in
the
United
States
Navy.
However,
that
ship
would
pull
into
a
port
and
I
would
leave
that
ship
and
I
would
take
a
drink.
And
I
would
totally
forget
that
I'm
in
the
United
States
Navy.
And
at
this
point
in
my
life,
whenever
I
took
a
drink,
I
have
no
idea
once
I
take
a
drink
whether
the
drunk
is
going
to
be
three
hours
or
three
days.
I
have
no
idea.
And
it's
a
very
strange
feeling
at
6
a.m.
in
a
foreign
country
on
a
very
large
pier.
And
I
would
be
standing
there
going,
there
was
a
destroyer
here
the
other
day.
This
one
morning
I
was
driving
my
car
back
into
the
base.
I
was
late
to
get
back
to
the
ship.
I'd
been
drinking
all
weekend.
And
what
I
would
be
doing
a
typical
Monday
morning,
if
I
had
been
drinking
all
weekend,
this
is
Carl's
detox
plan,
his
way
of
sliding
into
Tuesday,
is
that
I
would
save
one
pint,
and
I
would
drink
half
that
pint
on
my
way
into
the
Navy
base.
I
would
keep
the
other
half
a
pint
underneath
the
seat
so
at
noon
time
I
could
run
back
out
to
the
car
and
I
drink
the
other
half
a
pint,
and
that
would
be
my
way
of
coming
off
of
a
drunk
and
sliding
into
Tuesday.
This
particular
morning,
at
the
front
of
every
American
Navy
base
there
is
a
guard
shack
where
a
Marine
stands
guard.
And
if
you're
going
to
bring
your
car
onto
the
base,
you
need
to
pull
up
at
this
guard
shack.
You
need
to
show
him
your
military
ID.
He
needs
to
check
the
sticker
that
is
on
your
car.
And
if
everything
matches
up,
he
allows
you
to
proceed
forward
onto
the
base.
Okay.
This
particular
morning,
I
guess
I
was
concentrating
more
on
getting
that
half
a
pint
in
me
than
watching
where
I
was
going,
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
looked
up,
and
I
saw
the
Marine
had
his
head
out
of
the
guard
shack.
And
I
was
wondering
what
he
was
so
excited
about
until
I
looked
down,
and
I
was
still
going
40
miles
an
hour.
And
I
tried
to
swerve
at
the
last
minute,
and
the
car
hit
this
median
that
was
on
the
right
hand
side.
The
car
flipped
over
and
bam
right
through
the
guard
shack.
I
can
still
see
that
Marine
doing
this
big
dive
out
of
there.
I
remember
in
all
of
the
twisted
metal
and
broken
glass
as
I
was
laying
in
the
back
of
the
car
upside
down
and
it
was
destruction
all
around.
The
only
thing
I
thought
about,
I
wasn't
thinking,
oh
my
God,
have
I
hurt
this
Marine?
Am
I
all?
It's
not
what
I
was
thinking.
My
only
thought
process
was,
where's
that
bottle?
Yeah.
And
I
started
to
scramble
around
looking
for
that
bottle.
Now,
I'm
not
looking
for
that
bottle
because
I
need
to
hide
it
because
that
would
be
evidence
to
incriminate
me.
I
mean,
it's
this,
you
know,
I'm
looking
for
that
bottle
because,
based
upon
my
experience
in
situations
like
this,
once
the
authorities
arrive
and
they
see
what's
going
on,
it's
going
to
be
a
while
till
I
get
a
drink.
So
I
want
to
get
the
last
little
bit
in
because
I
know
it's
going
to
be
one
of
these
times
where
powers
that
be
take
alcohol
away
from
me.
That
morning,
the
Marine
was
all
right.
They
were
patching
me
up
at
the
hospital
for
minor
injuries,
and
they
were
reading
new
charges
on
me.
And
new
charges
is
nothing
new
in
my
life.
That's
just
what
happens
in
a
guy's
life
like
mine
about
every
90
days.
If
you're
living
the
way
I'm
living,
right,
the
alcoholic
life
becomes
the
only
normal
one.
So
new
charges,
this
is
nothing
new.
But
the
most
significant
thing
that
happened
that
morning
while
I
was
at
the
hospital
is
the
Navy
doctors
prescribed
this
thing
called
antibuse
for
me.
and
they
sent
this
prescription
back
to
the
ship's
doctor,
and
I
was
now
under
orders
to
show
up
at
sick
bay
every
morning
before
work,
before
quarters,
and
the
corpsman
there
would
put
this
little
white
pill
on
my
tongue
and
make
me
sit
there
for
a
half
an
hour
to
make
sure
it
actually
ingested
in
my
system.
Over
the
next
seven
to
ten
days,
I
started
to
experience
the
most
cunning,
baffling,
and
powerful
size
of
this
disease
we
call
alcoholism,
and
that
is
I
had
no
alcohol
in
my
system,
and
I
was
slowly
going
insane.
You
see,
you
take
alcohol
away
from
an
alcoholic
of
my
type,
and
I
assume
your
type.
And
I
literally
become,
I
start
to
implode
in
on
myself.
The
best
way
that
I
can
describe
the
way
I
feel,
when
you
take
alcohol
away
from
you,
and
you
do
not
give
me
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
is
that
I
feel
like
a
scream
looking
for
a
mouth.
And
I
remember
counting
those
days
on
that
Antibuse,
just,
it's
been
four
days.
And
I'm
on
Antibuse.
Okay.
Now
it's
been
six
days,
and
I'm
on
an
abuse.
Now
it's
been
eight
days,
six
hours,
and
15
minutes.
And
I'm
on
an
abuse.
And
I
started
to
look
around
that
ship.
The
other
men,
they're
talking
behind
my
back,
all
300
of
them.
Have
you
ever
felt
that
way
in
AA?
The
only
difference
is
that
in
AA,
we
are
talking
behind
your
back.
It's
not
an
illusion.
It's
actually
happening.
Only
with
love
and
tolerance
in
Iceland,
I'm
sure.
On
the
10th
day,
I
just
snapped,
and
I
went
AWOL
from
my
ship.
That's
absent
without
leave.
I
went
AWOL
from
my
ship,
and
I
locked
myself
in
a
little
hotel
room
in
downtown
San
Diego.
It's
called
the
Plaza
Hotel.
This
would
have
been
1986.
It
was
$13
a
night.
They
have
rehabbed
the
downtown
San
Diego,
along
with
the
Plaza
Hotel.
I
checked
a
couple
of
years
ago.
It's
now
$13.95
a
night.
And
I
remember
I
locked
myself
in
this
little
hotel
room
and
I
had
a
bottle
of
vodka
and
a
shot
glass.
And
as
I
sat
on
the
edge
of
the
bed
looking
at
this
bottle
of
vodka
that
was
on
this
rickety
little
end
table,
I
remembered
that
the
Navy
doctors
had
given
me
a
very
stern
warning
about
drinking
on
top
of
antibuse
when
they
had
prescribed
it
for
me.
They
had
told
me,
son,
you
need
to
understand
that
if
you
drink
on
top
of
this
antibuse,
you
will
get
one
of
two
reactions.
One
reaction
is
you
will
get
violently
ill.
The
other
reaction
is,
you
might
die.
I
remember
looking
at
the
bottle
and
I
thought,
well,
I
wonder
which
reaction
I'm
going
to
get.
And
I
took
one
shot
and
nothing
happened.
Authority
had
lied
to
me
again
as
far
as
I
was
concerned.
I
waited
about
two
minutes
just
to
make
sure.
And
I
took
another
shot.
All
of
a
sudden,
I
felt
tingly
in
the
face.
So
I
looked
in
this
cracked
little
mirror
that
was
in
this
hotel
room,
and
I
was
bright
red,
blotchy
and
purple
in
places.
Hmm,
took
another
shot.
All
of
a
sudden,
I
could
feel
my
heart
going,
boom,
boom,
boom,
look
at
my
shirt,
I
was
drenched
in
sweat,
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
I
was
like,
hyperventilating,
we're
doing
all
right
so
far.
You...
You
guys
are
very
sick
if
you
think
this
is
funny.
In
fact,
I
have
proof,
although
you
all
look
very,
very
nice,
I
have
proof
of
how
sick
you
are.
I'm
going
to
skip
ahead
a
couple
of
years,
two
years
sober
and
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
and
I
got
an
honorable
discharge
out
of
the
Navy,
and
one
of
the
amends
that
my
first
sponsor
and
his
sponsor,
real
sticklers
about
that
ninth
step,
and
one
of
the
amends
that
I
was
not
able
to
accomplish
while
I
was
still
in
the
Navy...
was
that
my
parents
had
paid
for
a
bachelor's
degree
in
college.
I
did
not
have
one.
I
had
two
choices.
I
either
had
to
pay
them
back
or
I
had
to
go
get
what
they
had
paid
for.
Those
were
my
choices.
I
know
that's
bad
news
for
some
of
you
young
people.
But
after
I
got
out
of
the
Navy,
that's
how
I
wound
up
living
in
the
Los
Angeles
area
where
I
live
now.
And
I
signed
up
to
take
this
business
telecommunications
bachelor's
program.
And
in
the
first
couple
of
semesters
of
this
bachelor's
program
and
telecommunications
and
business
that
I
took,
I
had
to
take
a
business
presentation
course.
It's
like
a
speech
class,
I
guess.
And
in
the
first
couple
of
days
of
this
speech
class,
the
instructor
was
randomly
pointing
at
the
students,
having
them
come
up
front
one
at
a
time.
The
instructor
would
throw
out
a
topic,
and
each
student
was
supposed
to
talk
for
two
to
three
minutes
on
whatever
the
topic
was.
And
the
instructor
was
just
doing
this
to
see
what
he
had
to
work
with
for
the
semester.
And
after
about
seven
or
eight
students
were
called
on,
he
called
on
me.
And
I
walk
up
to
the
front
of
the
room,
and
from
the
back
of
the
room,
the
instructor
shouted
out,
talk
about
a
bizarre
situation
in
your
life.
So
I
told
them
about
drinking
on
top
of
anabuse.
They
did
not
respond
the
way
you
guys
responded.
They
were
like,
there
were,
though,
a
couple
of
guys
in
the
back
going,
right
on,
dude,
all
right.
So
anyway,
I'm
back
in
the
hotel
room.
I'm
red
face.
I'm
hyperventilating.
I'm
sweating.
Okay.
And
I
took
another
shot.
And
up
it
came.
My
second
sponsor,
the
late
Eddie
Cochran,
one
of
the
pioneers
of
Southern
California
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
He
used
to
call
this
the
next
thing
that
happened
to
me,
projectile
regurgitation.
This
is
a
different
type
of
puking.
We
all
know
our
normal
puking.
It's
like
you're
out
there
in
the
middle
of
a
drunk,
right?
Right.
and
you
get
a
little
warning.
A
little
sour
taste
in
the
back
of
your
throat.
Maybe
a
little
bit
comes
up
into
your
mouth
and
you
go,
mm-hmm.
And
you
know,
based
upon
experience,
you
have
between
30
seconds
and
about
one
minute
to
find
a
bathroom
if
there
happens
to
be
one.
If
you're
driving,
you
just
got
to
get
the
window
down.
If
it's
your
friend's
shoe
tonight,
oh,
well,
that's
the
way
it
goes.
But
you
get
the
warning.
Here
on
this
antibuse,
no
warning.
Just,
oh,
boom!
Kind
of
a
spray
across
the
room.
And
thank
God,
the
Plaza
Hotel
is
the
type
of
hotel
room
where
the
toilet
is
in
the
same
room
as
the
bed.
It's
a
design
feature,
I
believe,
maybe
to
make
convicts
feel
more
at
home
upon
release.
I'm
not
really
sure,
but
it
came
in
handy.
but
I
found
the
magic
of
drinking
on
top
of
an
abuse
that
if
I
would
hang
in
there
and
not
die.
And
those
are
the
two
things
that
you
need
to
get
going
on
at
the
very
same
time
if
you
are
going
to
drink
on
top
of
antibus.
You
got
to
hang
in
there.
There's
no
half
measuring
this.
You've
got
to
be
committed.
And
at
the
very
same
time
after
this
commitment,
don't
die.
If
you
can
piece
those
two
things
together,
I
encourage
you.
Have
at
it.
Have
at
it.
But
I
found
that
if
I
kept
drinking
and
I
kept
puking
and
I
kept
drinking
and
I
kept
puking
for
approximately
one
hour,
some
nights
it
was
an
hour
and
a
half.
But
enough
of
the
antibuse
would
kick
out
of
my
system
and
I
would
quit
throwing
up
and
I
would
just
be
left
with
red
face,
hyperventilating
and
sweating.
And
I'm
all
right
with
that.
So
I
drank
on
top
of
Antibuse
the
last
seven
months
of
my
drinking.
The
only
words
to
describe
this
are
desperation
drinking.
My
second
to
my
last
drunk,
I
was
left
for
dead
in
a
motel
parking
lot
in
an
area
of
San
Diego
called
National
City.
You
probably
don't
know
what
National
City
is
like.
National
City
in
relation
to
San
Diego
is
kind
of
like
south
central
Los
Angeles
is
to
Los
Angeles.
I
was
in
the
middle
of
a
two-day
drunk,
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
thought,
well,
I'd
like
a
little
crack
cocaine.
So
I
started
wandering
around
the
streets
of
National
City
going,
anybody
know
where
there's
crack
cocaine.
Now,
take
a
look
at
me.
Does
this
seem
like
a
good
idea?
I
know
right
now,
I
can
see
it
was
a
very
bad
idea.
But
at
the
time,
I
thought
it
was
brilliant.
The
next
thing
that
I
remember
is
that
there
were
lots
of
fists
flying.
They
were
not
mine.
And...
Then
there
was
a
lot
of
blood,
and
that
apparently
was
mine.
And
that's
the
last
thing
that
I
remember,
and
the
next
thing
that
I
remember
is
I
came
to.
And
you
know
how
when
you
come
to
you
out
of
a
blackout,
you
start
looking
for
evidence
as
to,
am
I
in
my
own
bedroom?
Am
I
in
jail?
Where
am
I?
You
start
looking
around
to
see
where
you
are.
You've
heard
many
times
in
AA
people
trying
to
describe
pitiful
and
incomprehensible
demoralization
and
their
gratitude
for
sobriety
where
they
say,
I'm
just
so
grateful
to
be
sober.
When
I
wake
up,
I
know
who's
next
to
me.
I
just
can't
believe
it.
When
I'd
be
drinking,
I'd
come
out
of
a
blackout
and
look
next
to
me
and
they're
trying
to
describe
some
sort
of
pitiful
and
incomprehensible
demoralization
here.
But
that's
not
really
pitiful
and
incomprehensible
demoralization.
real
demoralization
is
when
you
come
out
of
a
blackout,
you
look
next
to
you
and
you
go,
wow,
not
bad.
And
they
wake
up
and
look
at
you
and
they
go,
and
now
they're
out.
You
see,
there's
always
two
sides
to
every
story,
you
know.
Anyway,
this
particular
morning,
this
particular
morning
when
I
came
to,
I
saw
men
and
women
with
surgical
masks
on
and
tools
in
their
hands
and
bright
lights.
And
I
was
on
an
operating
table.
Now,
anybody
in
the
medical
profession,
I
don't
know
if
it's
true
here
in
Iceland,
but
in
the
United
States,
if
someone
shows
up
and
they're
obviously
under
the
influence
of
alcohol
and
drugs,
and
they
don't
know,
and
I
can't
talk,
my
jaw
was
broken
in
three
places.
They
are
doing
surgery
on
my
jaw.
But
it's
against
the
law
to
give
them
anesthesia
when
they
don't
know
what
combination
of
alcohol
or
drugs
is
in
your
system.
Because
the
anesthesia
might
kill
you
if
you
have
the
wrong
combination
of
alcohol
or
drugs.
So
there
I
was
being
operated
on
that
morning
with
no
anesthesia.
That
was
a
fun
morning.
My
last
night
of
drinking,
I'm
being
led
out
of
the
San
Diego
jail,
being
transferred
from
military
authorities
over
to
civilian,
I
mean
from
civilian
authorities
over
to
military
authorities.
I'm
in
handcuffs.
And
it's
one
of
those
mornings
where
neck
muscles
aren't
working
too
well.
And
there
was
lots
of
angry
people
around,
and
I'm
in
handcuffs.
And
that
morning,
as
I
was
coming
up
with
the
military
police
up
to
the
quarter
deck
of
our
ship,
the
officer
of
the
deck
that
morning
put
his
arm
up
and
said,
wrong
answer.
Orders
have
already
been
processed
on
this
loser
last
night.
The
orders
are,
90
days
in
the
brig,
bad
conduct
discharge,
or
treatment.
Now,
as
I
stood
there
in
handcuffs
that
morning,
apparently
some
sort
of
option
was
thrown
out
on
the
table.
90
days
in
the
brig,
bad
conduct
discharge,
or
treatment.
Now,
as
I
stood
there
in
the
handcuffs,
I
do
not
remember
thinking...
Oh,
God,
you
are
so
good
to
a
bum
like
me.
I
just
can't
go
on
living
this
way
and
look
at
this.
You've
offered
me
treatment.
Oh,
I
am
so
great.
I
don't
remember
thinking
or
feeling
that.
Nor
do
I
remember,
and
this
would
have
been
more
likely,
nor
do
I
remember
thinking,
hey,
If
I
just
act
like
I
want
that
treatment
thing,
maybe
I
can
beat
this
charge
too.
That
would
have
been
more
likely,
but
I
don't
remember
that
either.
I
now
know
that
it
would
not
have
mattered
what
I
was
thinking
or
feeling
that
morning
because
I
was
in
handcuffs.
And
I
don't
know
about
your
experience
in
handcuffs,
but
my
experience
in
handcuffs
throughout
my
life,
Whoever
had
me
in
handcuffs,
never
once
did
they
ever
turn
to
me
and
say,
So
what's
your
opinion
on
this
matter?
When
you're
in
handcuffs,
you
go
where
they
say.
And
they
took
me
up
to
this
treatment
center,
a
military
treatment
center
up
at
the
north
end
of
San
Diego
at
the
Miramar
base.
That's
where
they
filmed
Top
Gun.
Our
section
was
called
Top
Drunk.
And
when
the
doors
were
locked
behind
me,
that
is
when
they
were
willing
to
take
the
handcuffs
off
me.
And
that
is
what
society
feels
about
how
Carl
Morris
acts
out
there
in
the
world
without
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
They're
willing
to
take
the
handcuffs
off
me
when
the
doors
are
locked
behind
me.
And
rightfully
so.
When
I
drink,
I
have
no
consideration
for
you
or
your
children.
I
don't
think
of
anything
about
the
penalty
of
the
way
I
can
drastically
harm
your
life
in
any
way,
shape,
or
form.
So
I'm
in
this
military
treatment
center,
and
over
the
next
couple
of
days,
35
men
and
women
show
up
from
various
ships,
bases,
and
commands,
and
we're
all
going
to
do
this
45-day
thing
together.
And
in
the
first
couple
of
days,
they
are
doing
medical
checkups
on
us.
They
are
doing
administrative
paperwork
to
find
out
who
we
are
and
where
we're
from.
And
they
also
were
putting
us
into
these
large
group
therapy
sessions.
And
in
the
first
couple
of
days,
when
we're
in
this
big
group
therapy
session,
the
facilitator
or
the
instructor
for
the
group
therapy
was
trying
to
get
us
to
talk
to
each
other.
And
nobody's
talking.
We're
all
just
arms
folded,
looking
down
at
the
ground,
nobody's
saying
anything.
And
this
facilitator,
I
believe
he
was
new
at
his
job,
was
getting
more
frustrated
by
the
minute
because
he
was
running
out
of
things
to
say.
And
none
of
us
would
talk.
And
on
about
the
third
day...
We
were
in
one
of
these
group
therapy
sessions,
and
this
fellow
named
Paco,
here's
from
some
other
base
or
ship
somewhere,
he
raises
his
hand
in
the
group
therapy
session.
And
the
instructor
goes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
what
would
you
like
to
say,
Paco?
And
Paco
said,
I
hear
that
I'm
supposed
to
be
rigorously
honest
with
you
guys
if
I'm
going
to
do
this
staying
sober
thing.
And
I
want
you
guys
to
know
that
Paco
is
not
my
real
name.
Paco
is
just
the
name
I've
used
my
whole
life
whenever
things
look
like
trouble.
And
the
other
day
when
I
got
here,
this
looked
like
trouble.
But
I
want
to
be
honest
and
up
front
with
you
guys,
my
real
name
is
Randy.
Will
you
guys
call
me
Randy
from
now
on?
And
the
rest
of
us
kind
of
go,
okay,
great
to
meet
you,
Randy,
whatever.
And
we
look
back
down
to
the
ground.
But
this
facilitator
got
really
excited.
It
said,
oh
my
God,
this
is
the
first
breakthrough
of
any
honesty
of
any
of
U.S.OBs.
Later
that
afternoon,
Randy
was
paraded
in
front
of
the
rest
of
us.
They
put
a
gold
name
tag
on
them
that
said,
Randy.
And
then
we
were
all
informed
that
whenever
staff
was
not
around,
Randy's
in
charge.
And
Randy
loved
his
new
job.
And
we
hated
Randy.
Okay.
On
the
seventh
day
in
this
place,
they
took
us
all
to
our
first
meeting
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
At
least
it
was
my
first
meeting.
All
I
remember
is
that
we
were
in
the
barracks,
and
over
the
one
MC,
it's
like
an
intercom
system,
announcement
system
through
the
barracks.
They
said,
civilian
clothes,
parking
lot.
6
p.m.
And
so
we're
all
out
there
standing
in
our
civilian
clothes
and
five
white
vans
pull
up
and
we
were
told
which
van
to
get
into
and
five
or
six
of
us
were
put
into
each
van
and
each
van
took
off
out
into
San
Diego
to
a
different
meeting
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
the
van
I
was
in
showed
up
at
a
meeting
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
we
were
sitting
in
the
back
and
you
people
started
your
meeting.
And
as
I
sat
there
in
the
back,
now
in
San
Diego,
if
you've
ever
been
there,
most
of
their
participation
meetings
are
what
they
call
podium
participation.
You
do
not
share
from
your
seat.
You
share
from
up
front.
And
all
I
remember
is
a
long
string
of
people,
10,
12,
maybe
15
people
coming
up
to
this
podium,
and
the
first
few
read
something.
And
then
the
rest
of
them
just
sort
of
seemed
to
talk
off
the
cuff
for
a
few
minutes
each.
And
as
I
sat
there
and
listened
to
what
was
being
set
up
here,
I
got
this
overwhelming
feeling
of,
oh
my
God,
they
know.
They
know.
Now,
if
one
of
you
would
have
seen
me
back
there
thinking...
and
you
would
have
walked
up
to
me
and
nudging
me
and
said,
so
what
is
it
that
they
know,
that
you
think
you
know,
I
would
have
said,
I
don't
know.
But
they
know.
And
what
it
was,
in
looking
back,
is
that
I
believe
those
people
were
sharing
responsibly
in
that
meeting
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
because
I
believe
I
was
hearing
what
Alcoholics
Anonymous
wants
any
new
person
to
hear
in
their
very
first
meeting
or
two.
What
was
happening
was
that
I
was
identifying.
And
I
was
identifying
with
two
things.
I
was
identifying
with
the
way
that
you
described
your
drinking.
And
even
more
importantly,
I
was
identifying
with
the
way
you
described
the
way
you
felt
when
you
were
not
drinking.
The
other
thing
that
I
remember
from
my
very
first
meeting
is
this
one
fellow
got
called
on
and
he
walked
all
the
way
to
the
front.
He
said
one
sentence
and
he
sat
down.
And
in
the
24
years
that
I've
been
with
you
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
I
have
never
heard
the
alcoholic
mind
described
better
than
by
this
gentleman.
He
walked
all
the
way
to
the
front.
He
introduced
himself.
He
said,
my
name's
Jack.
I'm
an
alcoholic.
My
mind
would
have
killed
my
body
a
long
time
ago,
except
it
needed
it
for
transportation.
And
he
sat
down
and
he
knows.
He
knows.
The
next
night,
the
next
night
we
went
to
another
meeting
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
and
I
don't
know
where
that
meeting
was,
but
as
much
as
I
identified
on
the
first
night,
I
got
just
as
confused
the
next
night.
Because
everybody
at
this
meeting
was
talking
about
something
called
a
drug
of
choice.
They
were,
well,
my
drug
of
choice
is.
And
somebody
else,
well,
my
drug
of
choice
is.
And
I'm
sitting
in
the
back
going,
oh,
for
God's
sake,
was
I
supposed
to
be
choosing
out
there?
No.
Do
they
want
me
to
choose
now?
What
are
they
talking
about?
So
the
next
morning
I'm
back
at
the
treatment
center
and
I
asked
the
counselor
who'd
been
assigned
to
us.
Her
name
was
Mary,
a
wonderful
woman.
And
I
said,
Mary,
I'd
like
to
ask
your
question.
She
goes,
yes,
what
would
you
like
to
ask,
Carl?
And
I
go,
last
night
in
the
meeting,
they
were
talking
about
something
called
a
drug
of
choice.
What
do
they
mean
by
that?
And
she
said,
Carl,
let's
play
a
game.
Now
that
kind
of
worried
me
because
she
was
insinuating
that
I
was
supposed
to
concentrate
on
what
she
was
about
to
say.
And
that
concerned
me.
Because
I
hadn't
told
anybody
this
because
I
didn't
know
what
was
going
on.
I
now
know
what
was
happening
in
my
first
week
or
so
inside
the
treatment
center.
When
I
had
shown
up
and
they
did
a
medical
checkup
on
me,
they
had
found
that
my
liver
was
extended,
my
pancreas
was
shutting
down,
I
had
extreme
alcoholic
edema,
apparently
drinking
on
top
of
an
abuse
for
seven
months,
does
a
little
number
on
your
inside.
So
they
had
put
me
on
to
these
detox
medication,
anti-seizure
medication,
apparently
to
stop
me
from
throwing
the
floppy
fish
during
a
therapy
session
and
scaring
all
the
other
residents,
right?
Right.
It
can
get
them
worried.
If
somebody's
always,
them,
blah,
ugh.
So
they
had
salted
my
tail
with
these
things,
so
I
wouldn't
throw
the
seizure.
But
if
you've
ever
been
on
these
things,
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
Your
field
of
vision
about
like,
this
is
just
fine.
But
there's
dancing
squiggly
things
over
here.
And
when
I
would
turn
to
see
what
it
is,
now
it's
over
here.
And
so
I
was
doing
a
lot
of
this.
Yeah.
So
if
you're
ever
at
an
AA
meeting
and
they
bring
the
hospital
people
in
and
they
still
got
their
hospital
bracelets
on
and
they're
doing
a
bunch
of
this,
now
you
know
what's
probably
going
on.
But
anyway,
so
she
goes,
Carl,
we'll
figure
out
what
your
drug
of
choice
is.
Let's
play
a
game.
I'm
like,
okay.
She
says,
imagine
this,
Carl.
Imagine
I
walked
into
this
room
and
I
had
a
tray.
And
on
that
tray,
I
had
a
bottle
of
Jack
Daniels,
an
ounce
of
cocaine.
and
an
ounce
of
tie
sticks.
Which
one
would
you
take?
I
started
to
drool
immediately.
Oh,
oh,
oh,
oh.
I
take
them
all!
And
she
started
to
snap
her
fingers.
Settle
down,
Carl.
Play
the
game.
You
can't
have
them
all.
You
can
only
have
one.
Which
one
would
you
take?
And
I
thought
for
a
second,
I
said,
well...
I
guess
if
I
can
only
have
one
Mary,
I
guess
I'd
take
the
ounce
of
cocaine.
She
said,
ah,
maybe
cocaine
is
your
drug
of
choice.
Do
you
understand
now?
And
I
said,
no.
No.
And
she
said,
what's
the
problem?
Well,
I
said,
Mary,
the
only
reason
I
would
take
the
ounce
of
cocaine
over
the
other
two
is,
well,
I'd
take
that
ounce
of
cocaine.
I'd
get
the
hell
out
of
this
place,
and
I'd
sell
two
eight
balls.
Now
I'd
have
enough
money
for
a
quarter
pound
of
tie
six
and
a
case
of
Jack
Daniels.
Now,
there's
two
reasons
I
bring
this
up.
First
reason
is
I
was
25
years
old.
I'm
dying
of
a
disease
I
know
nothing
about
and
I'm
still
a
smart
ass.
That's
what's
the
first
thing.
Second
thing,
the
reason
I
bring
this
up
is
to
bring
up
a
very
important
aspect
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
if
you're
new
or
fairly
new,
and
that's
sobriety
dates.
If
you're
new
or
fairly
new
and
you're
going
through,
am
I
mostly
alcoholic
and
a
little
bit
addict?
Am
I
mostly
addict,
maybe
just
a
little
bit
alcoholic?
First
thing
I
want
to
encourage
you
to
do
is
go
to
lots
of
open
meetings
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Find
somebody
who
understands
the
big
book
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
who
can
take
you
through
the
Big
Book
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
so
that
you
can
find
out
what
alcoholism
really
is
before
you
make
the
potentially
fatal
decision
you
are
not.
That's
the
first
thing
I
want
to
encourage
you
to
do.
The
second
thing
is
there's
only
one
sobriety
date.
I
know
there's
lots
of
you
that
work
with
new
people,
and
maybe
you
run
across
this
scenario
like
I
do
every
once
in
a
while,
not
very
often,
but
every
once
in
my
home
group,
I
run
across
this
situation.
See
some
guy
around
that
I'd
seen
for
a
little
while,
and
I
go
up
to
him
and
say,
hey,
good
to
see
you.
How
long
do
you
have?
And
every
once
in
a
while,
again,
not
often,
but
every
once
in
a
while,
I
get
this
kind
of
response.
Well,
my
drinking
sobriety
date
is
January
4th.
My
pot
clean
date
is
May
3rd.
Oh,
I
blew
my
methamphetamine
date
last
night.
I
was
in
Walmart
all
night
long.
No,
one
sobriety
date.
Funniest
thing
I
ever
heard
about
sobriety
date,
same
scenario.
I
saw
this
guy
around
my
home
group
for
a
while,
and
I
went
up
to
him
and
said,
hey,
good
to
see
you.
How
long
do
you
got?
And
he
said,
well,
I
had
90
days,
but
I
drank
last
night.
So
now
I
have
89
days.
Yeah.
I
had
to
call
my
sponsor.
I
think
that
kind
of
falls
into
the
same
category
as
being
down
in
Mexico,
looking
at
the
tequila
going,
would
that
affect
my
U.S.
sobriety
date?
Yes.
Yes.
Sobriety
dates
are
international.
Just
a
little
information
for
the
new
guy.
Okay.
So
anyway,
after
45
days,
you're
going
to
let
us
all
out
of
this
place,
and
they're
going
to
let
us
out
on
a
Friday
afternoon.
And
on
the
Wednesday
before
that
Friday,
they
gathered
all
35
of
us
that
were
going
to
get
out
on
that
Friday,
and
they
put
us
into
this
room.
And
from
a
side
door,
the
door
opened
up,
and
the
biggest,
meanest
counselor
in
the
place
walked
in.
And
he's
a
Marine.
And
that
day,
he's
in
his
full-dressed
uniform.
And
I've
got
to
tell
you,
a
United
States
Marine
in
his
full-dressed
uniform
is
a
very
impressive
and
very
intimidating
sight.
I
mean,
he
had
all
his
medals
on.
He
marched
up
to
this
podium
that
was
in
front
of
us,
and
he
stared
at
us.
And
as
he
stared
at
us,
we
all
just
went,
h.
And
it
just
went
dead
quiet
in
that
room.
And
he
just
stared
at
us.
He
didn't
say
a
word.
He
just
paned
the
room
and
stared
at
us.
And
after
what
seemed
like
forever,
he
finally
spoke.
He
said,
U-35
have
been
through
one
of
the
finest
treatment
centers
in
the
world
for
alcoholism
and
drug
addiction.
And
over
the
years,
this
treatment
center
has
done
statistics.
And
our
statistics
show
us
that
out
of
U-35,
only
one
of
you
will
stay
continuously
sober
from
this
day
forward.
Many
of
you
will
die.
Right.
Go
insane,
wind
up
in
prison.
Nice
little
exit
pep
talk,
don't
you
think?
God.
Then
he
said
many
of
you
were
relapse
once,
twice,
maybe
20
times,
then
make
it
back
into
long-term
sobriety.
But
according
to
our
statistics
for
this
treatment
center,
only
one
of
you
will
stay
continuously
sober
from
this
day
forward.
If
you
thought
it
was
quiet
before
that,
You
could
have
heard
a
pin
drop
in
the
room
now.
The
only
thing
you
could
hear
was
me
going,
shit.
Because
I
knew
if
only
one
of
us
was
going
to
make
it,
it
was
not
going
to
be
me.
We
all
knew
who
was
going
to
be.
It's
going
to
be
Randy
over
here,
guarantee.
He's
like
the
poster
boy
of
the
treatment
center
by
now.
So
on
this
Friday
afternoon,
when
they're
letting
us
all
out
and
people
are
taken
back
to
their
ship's
basin
commands
in
various
different
ways,
but
there
was
about
four
or
five
of
us.
that
had
been
arrested
in
vehicles
the
night
before,
before
we
were
thrown
into
this
place.
So
we
were
informed
that
we
were
supposed
to
stand
on
the
front
doorstep
of
the
treatment
center,
and
our
cars
would
be
brought
out
of
the
impound
lot
where
they'd
been
sitting
for
the
last
45
days.
So
I'm
standing
there
with
a
few
guys,
and
we're
looking
at
each
other,
and
we're
kind
of
just
chatting.
And
all
of
a
sudden,
one
of
the
guys
that
I'm
standing
with
points
at
this
car
that's
coming
across
the
parking
lot.
And
he
goes,
is
that
Randy
in
that
car?
And
we
look,
yeah,
sure
enough,
as
he
got
a
little
closer,
one
of
the
other
guys
goes,
he's
drinking
already.
Sure
enough,
Randy's
got
himself
a
bottle,
he's
polishing
it
off.
He
rolls
right
in
front
of
us,
he
rolls
down
the
window,
he
throws
the
bottle
right
at
our
feet,
crash!
We
look
up,
he
gives
us
all
the
finger,
and
he
drives
right
off.
I
guess
his
name
was
Paco
again.
I
don't
know.
Yeah.
Next
thing
that
I
remember
of
that
day
is
I
showed
up
at
a
meeting
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
A
6
o'clock
gong
show
meeting
in
Pacific
Beach,
north
end
of
San
Diego,
big
meeting,
and
I'm
sitting
in
the
back.
And
the
truth
about
my
life
at
that
time,
I
had
45
days
without
a
drink.
I
had
a
lot
of
information,
and
I
was
physically
feeling
better
than
I
had
felt
since
I
was
a
young
teenager.
But
there
had
been
no
spiritual
awakening,
spiritual
experience,
or
even
a
personality
change,
sufficient
to
bring
about
recovery
from
alcoholism.
I
had
information.
45
days
feeling
physically
better.
If
there
was
ever
a
turning
point
in
my
life,
it
was
right
there
at
that
meeting,
that
night,
which
way
is
my
life
going
to
go?
And
that
night,
one
guy
operating
on
his
primary
purpose
that
night,
I'm
sure
there
was
many,
many
other
men
that
were
operating
on
their
primary
purpose
that
night,
but
this
fellow
was
the
one
that
found
me
in
the
back.
And
he
came
up
to
me,
he
goes,
I've
never
seen
you
here
before.
What
are
you
doing?
I
didn't
think
quick
enough
to
lie
to
him
because
if
I
would
have
thought
for
one
more
second,
I
would
have
made
up
a
lie.
But
I
accidentally
told
him
the
truth.
And
I
said,
I
don't
know.
I
just
got
out
of
a
Navy
treatment
center
this
afternoon.
I
don't
know
what
I'm
doing.
This
guy's
eyes
went,
Bing!
Big
smile
went
across.
He
looked
like
he
had
just
hit
the
jackpot
in
Las
Vegas.
He
was
like,
oh!
At
the
break
of
the
meeting,
he's
fighting
his
friends
off.
No,
no,
no,
he's
mine.
I
got
him.
I
got
him.
You
say
away.
I
got
him.
I
didn't
know
there's
guys
in
AA
that
lurk
around
meetings
looking
for
the
new
guy
who
accidentally
will
admit.
He
doesn't
know
what
he
was
doing.
But
there
was
something
else
going
on
in
this
guy's
life,
that
particular
Friday
night
that
made
him
especially
glad
to
meet
me.
This
guy's
girlfriend
had
left
him
the
night
before
for
one
of
his
friends
in
his
home
group.
So
he
was
wondering
what
he
was
going
to
do
with
his
weekend.
Homicide,
suicide,
get
loaded,
or
grab
this
newcomer.
He
was
like
all
over
me
all
weekend.
We
went
to
like
18
meetings
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
this
guy
was
insane
over
this
woman.
In
between
each
meeting,
he'd
throw
me
into
the
pastor's
side
of
his
car,
and
he'd
start
driving,
and
he
start
yelling.
He
wouldn't
even
look
at
the
road.
He
had
like
one
of
those
AA
radar
cars
that
just
made
it
to
the
next
meeting,
I
guess.
And
he'd
be
yelling
at
me.
You've
got
to
go
to
meetings,
you've
got
to
read
the
book,
you've
got
to
get
a
sponsor.
Damn
her!
Got
to
go
to
meetings,
he's
got
to
read
the
book,
damn
her!
And
I'm
like...
Now,
I
didn't
know
it,
but
I
was
getting
a
very
early
introduction
to
your
typical
AA
relationship
breakup
is
what
I
was
getting.
But
I'm
so
glad
that
this
man,
that
night,
in
his
pain...
was
a
man
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
who
had
taken
the
steps
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
had
done
the
work
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
and
understood
that
the
solution
to
his
pain
was
out
of
self,
out
of
self,
out
of
self.
I
am
so
glad
that
that
guy,
that
night,
in
his
pain,
was
not
a
guy
in
AA
who
thought
that
his
solution
was,
I'll
hide
under
my
covers,
and
I'll
keep
calling
and
keep
calling
until
I
can
get
my
sponsor
and
he'll
give
me
a
magical
answer.
You
know,
I'm
so
glad
that
he
was
dragging
my
sorry
butt
around.
Like
I
said,
we
went
to
like
18
meetings.
Now,
I'm
sure
that
man
found
his
sponsor
during
that
barrage
of
meetings.
I
remember
at
most
meetings,
I'd
see
him
off
in
a
corner,
and
he'd
be
talking
to
the
older
fellows.
And
some
of
them
looked
like
they
were
very
concerned
for
him.
They'd...
Mm.
Other
ones
were
going...
But
invariably,
they
would
turn
him
around,
they'd
point
at
me,
he'd
come
barreling
across,
we're
going
to
another
meeting.
After
that
weekend,
I
got
back
to
my
ship,
and
the
one
other
sober
member
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
on
my
ship
was
waiting
for
me.
His
name
was
Bob
W.
He
became
my
first
sponsor.
I'm
so
grateful
for
this
man,
for
many,
many
reasons.
But
the
main
reason
I
am
so
grateful
for
this
man
is
that
the
one
other
sober
member
of
alcoholics
on
my
ship
was
an
active
member
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
He
was
living
a
very
valuable
way
of
life.
He
had
a
sponsor.
He
had
commitments.
He
was
trying
to
work
with
others.
He
was
in
the
center
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
I
am
so
glad
that
the
one
other
guy
on
my
ship
that
was
sober...
was
not
a
guy
who
hadn't
been
to
a
meeting
in
nine
months,
who
didn't
know
what
to
do
with
me,
who
didn't
know
how
to
really
introduce
me
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
The
way
of
life
that
he
was
leading
and
still
did
until
last
Tuesday
he
passed
away.
And
I
missed
being
able
to
go
see
him.
I
had
a
flight
to
go
on
Friday
and
he
passed
away
on
last
Tuesday.
So
I
tell
the
stories
about
my
first
sponsor,
Bob
W.,
with
a
very
heavy
heart
tonight.
And
I'll
try
to
get
through.
But
the
way
of
life,
Hugh's
living
was
such
a
valuable
way
of
life.
Because
all
he
had
to
do
to
effectively
help
save
my
life
was
stick
his
hand
out
and
say,
come
do
what
I'm
doing.
Who
else
on
the
planet
can
effectively
help
save
another
life
by
saying,
come
do
what
I'm
doing?
Nobody
else
on
this
planet.
And
it's
very
easy
to
forget
how
valuable
it
is
to
be
active.
responsible
member
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
because
nobody
can
help
us
but
us.
As
I
said,
he
became
my
first
sponsor
for
my
first
two
years
of
sobriety
that
I
was
in
the
Navy.
And
he
introduced
me
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
and
we
went
to
meeting.
My
first
six
months
was
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
coffee,
coffee,
coffee,
coffee.
Coffee,
coffee,
coffee,
coffee,
meeting,
meeting,
coffee,
coffee,
meet,
meeting,
coffee,
coffee,
coffee.
And
I
would
run
around,
I
would
go
from
meeting
to
meeting
to
meeting,
desperately
hoping
that
you
would
say
something
funny,
clever,
or
insightful,
because
I
knew
that
if
you
did,
I
would
get
this
feeling
of,
I'm
okay.
No,
I'm
not.
Meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting.
Coffee,
coffee,
coffee,
coffee.
And
I
just,
you
know,
I
remember,
in
this
barrage
of
meetings,
I'm
confused
about
all
sorts
of
things.
I
mean,
I
remember,
you
know,
I'm
four
months
sober.
I
meet
this
girl
at
a
meeting.
They
call
the
break
and
we
look
at
each
other.
We
say
about
two
sentences
to
each
other
and
I
run
out
to
my
first
sponsor,
Bob,
and
he's
standing
outside
the
meeting
with
a
bunch
of
his
friends
and
I
go,
Bob,
you
wouldn't
believe
this.
I
met
this
girl.
God
put
her
in
my
life.
I
know
that
she's
an
alcoholic.
I'm
an
alcoholic.
I
mean,
we
have
so
much
in
common.
And
one
of
his
friends
overheard
this
conversation
and
said,
Carl,
God's
not
a
pimp.
Okay.
Oh.
Meety,
meeting,
meeting,
meeting,
coffee,
coffee,
coffee,
coffee.
And
yet,
as
I
ran
from
meeting
to
meeting
to
meeting
in
this
sense
of
desperation.
And
I
didn't
understand
that
I
was
dying
of
untreated
alcoholism
as
I
was
right
in
the
midst
of
you.
Because
late
at
night,
I
had
beholding
my
gut,
whether
I
was
on
my
ship
in
my
rack,
That's
kind
of
a
bunk
on
the
ship.
They'd
stack
you
three
high.
Whether
I
was
there
in
the
middle
of
the
night
or
I'd
got
in
a
hotel
room
and
been
to
five
meetings
that
day,
I
would
still
be
holding
my
gut.
And
I
would
be
saying
the
deadly,
deadly
statement
of
the
new
alcoholic,
what's
wrong
with
me?
Why
do
I
feel
this
way?
What's
wrong
with
me?
And
I
would
try
to
make
it
through
the
night.
And
I
remember
this
one
night.
And
again,
this
is
an
example
of
you
people
who
know
your
responsibility
at
showing
up
an
alcoholic's
anonymous
no
matter
what.
I
decided,
now,
I'm
really
not
a
suicide
kind
of
person.
Like
my
late
friend
Scott
Redman
used
to
say,
I'm
much
more
of
a
homicide
type
person.
Much
prefer
your
death
to
mine.
But
one
night,
that
ugly,
dark,
dark
feeling.
was
coming
over
me
and
I
go,
if
this
is
sobriety,
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to,
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
stay.
And
I
started
to
think
about
suicide.
Maybe
not
that
seriously,
I
can't
tell
you.
But
the
very
next
morning
I'm
at
a
meeting
and
I'm
still
thinking
about
it.
And
one
of
you
beautiful
members
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
this
man
didn't
even
know
I
was
in
the
room.
And
he
got
up
and
he
said,
if
anybody
out
there
is
thinking
of
committing
suicide,
I
have
it
on
good
authority,
which
I
knew
by
that
time,
if
an
old
time
were
saying
good
authority,
he
means
God.
God.
I
have
it
on
good
authority
that
however
you
are
feeling,
when
you
commit
suicide,
is
how
you
will
feel
for
all
eternity.
Like,
oh,
that's
bad
news.
Now,
he's
a
responsible
member,
so
he
never
states
a
problem
without
a
solution.
And
he
said,
so
the
solution
is,
wait
until
you're
having
a
very
good
day.
Then
do
it.
And
I
remember...
That
man
literally
saved
my
life
because
from
the
depths
of
my
soul,
I
felt
this
laughter
that
came
out.
Right?
And
the
release
was
amazing
for
about
15
minutes.
And
then
I
was
back
to.
And
some
of
the
other
things
that
just
blew
me
away
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
You
know,
I
remember
this
one
time
I'm
sitting
very,
very
new.
And
an
old
timer
said,
if
you
don't
take
the
first
drink,
you
can't
get
drunk.
And
I
was
like,
ha.
And
I
wanted
to
say,
did
you
hear
that?
I
mean,
it
was
major
news.
That
was
life-changing
news
for
me.
If
I
don't
take
the
first
drink,
I
can't
get
drunk.
You
know,
and
somebody
else
in
the
meeting
said,
when
you're
standing
on
the
train
tracks,
it's
not
the
cabooster
gets
you.
It's
the
engine.
And
I
thought
this
was
brilliant.
I
mean,
later
that
day,
I'm
outside
the
AA
club
going,
if
I
don't
take
the
first
drink,
I
can't
get
drunk.
If
I
don't...
Literally.
Just
overwhelming,
life-changing
news.
About
a
day
later,
now
this
is
an
example.
Do
not
call
or
talk
to
you
and
try
to
impress
your
loved
ones
that
are
not
alcoholic
with
the
deep
spiritual
sayings
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Because
I
called
my
mother.
Now,
my
mother
is
very
standoffish,
rightfully
so.
They
were
in
Seattle.
I
was
in
San
Diego.
They
were
most
happy
about
the
thousand
miles
between
us.
But
she
talked
to
me,
she
was
hopeful.
And
I
go,
Mom,
you
wouldn't
believe
what
I
heard
in
the
AA
meeting
tonight.
They
said
if
I
don't
take
the
first
drink,
I
can't
get
drunk.
There
was
silence
on
the
other
end.
After
about
10
seconds,
she
said,
a
bunch
of
philosophers
there
in
that
AA
program,
huh?
But
it
was
life-changing
news
to
me.
Yeah.
Our
ship
had
to
go
out
to
sea
for
21
days
straight
when
I
was
about
between
six
and
seven
months
sober.
My
first
sponsor,
Bob
W.,
told
me,
when
our
ship
is
out
at
sea,
Carl,
you
are
going
to
meet
me
in
the
engine
room,
in
this
little
battery
shop,
every
night
at
6.30.
And
sure
enough,
the
first
night
I
met
him
there,
he
showed
up
and
he
had
that
blue
book
with
him,
and
he
tossed
it
on
the
county,
he
said,
I've
been
hounding
you
about
it
for
months.
Have
you
read
it?
And
I
said
something
like,
yeah,
yeah,
there's
like
how
it
works.
We
antagonists,
some
doctor
with
some
opinion
about
something.
What
he
proceeded
to
do
with
me
over
the
next
21
days.
is
I
call
it
Alcoholics
Anonymous
in
its
Purist
Form.
Remember,
he
only
had
14
more
months
than
me.
He
was
no
expert
at
working
with
others.
He
was
still
just
in
the
process
of
barely
scratching
the
surface
of
getting
his
life
going.
But
he
opened
up
the
book
and
he
started
to
read
from
page
one.
And
when
he
was
tired,
I
would
read.
And
what
it
was,
and
the
reason
I
call
it
Alcoholics
Anonymous
in
its
purest
form
is
out
there
in
the
middle
of
the
Pacific
Ocean,
in
a
little
engine
room,
Two
men,
the
blind,
leading
the
blind,
trying
to
have
an
experience
with
the
big
book
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
what
happened
over
that
21
days
when
he
and
I
did
as
best
we
could
to
do
what
that
book
was
asking
us
to
do,
what
I
can
best
describe
what
happened
to
me
was
that
I
had
was
described
in
the
back
of
the
book
under
spiritual
experience
in
the
appendices.
as
a
personality
change
sufficient
to
bring
about
recovery
from
alcoholism.
It
was
a
feeble
attempt
at
the
steps.
I
wrote
it,
you
know,
we
went
through
one,
two,
and
three
as
an
outline
in
the
book.
I
did
enough
of
an
inventory
to
maybe
see
a
little
bit
of
the
truth
of
that
I'm
the
master
of
my
own
destruction.
Nobody
had
put
me
in
this
situation.
I
started
to
make
an
outline
to
make
a
few
amends.
And
what...
happened
to
me
is
that
I
had
a
personality
change,
enough
of
a,
but
that's
not
the
magic
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
That's
not
where
I
was
going
to
get
long-term
sobriety
comfortably.
That's
not
the
real
gift
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
when
I
worked
the
steps.
I
was
not
to
find
the
magic
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
the
real
healing
at
the
level
of
the
soul
that
was
going
to
be
necessary
for
me
to
have
long-term
sobriety
until
I
did
something
else.
until
I
ever
so
feebly
tried
to
do
with
someone
else
what
he
had
done
with
me
in
the
24
years
that
I've
been
with
you.
The
deepest
answers
that
I
have
found
in
my
life
as
to
who
I
am
as
a
human
being
and
what
things
mean
and
the
deepest
experiences
that
I've
had
in
Alcoholics
and
Onerous
have
been
when
I've
been
trying
to
work
with
you.
I
have
never
had
any
of
the
deepest
experiences
when
I'm
working
on
myself.
I
truly
believe
that
when
I'm
working
on
myself,
I'm
telling
God,
I'm
fine,
I
got
this.
But
when
I
am,
did
I
just
flip
that?
Didn't
mean
to
do
that.
But
when
I
am
trying
to
help
you
is
when
God
starts
working
in
my
life.
I'm
convinced
that
that
is
what
has
been
the
secret
for
me
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
The
other
thing
that
I
learned
during
this
period
of
time
of
my
sobriety,
I
was
probably
about
eight
months
sober.
And
whenever,
and
this
is
what
I
learned,
I
learned
that
if
I
have
found
this
solution
and
I
am
reasonably
armed
with
facts
about
myself,
I
have
a
responsibility
to
take
my
seat
in
meetings
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
because,
as
I
said
earlier,
there's
no
one
that
can
help
us
but
us.
So
if
I'm
going
to
find
this
solution
and
then
I
disregard
it,
again,
I'm
being
at
best,
right?
The
lightest
thing
I
can
say
is
I'm
being
irresponsible.
Because
if
nobody
can
help
us
but
us,
I
have
to
take
my
seat.
There's
a
magic
that
happens
that
happens
nowhere
else
when
one
alcoholic
tries
to
communicate
with
another
alcoholic.
There's
a
magic
that
happens
nowhere
else.
And
how
I
learn
that,
I
will
never
forget.
My
first
sponsor,
Bob
W.
and
I
would
often
split
hotel
rooms
when
our
ship
would
pull
into
a
foreign
port.
We
would
split
a
hotel
room
just
to
get
off
the
ship,
and
we
would
then
go
find
the
AA
group.
We
were
in
Victoria,
British
Columbia
this
particular
time,
and
we
got
a
hotel
room,
and
then
we
went
out
to
the
AA
club,
and
we
went
to
the
meeting.
After
the
meeting...
Bob
said,
Carl,
I'm
really
kind
of
tired.
I
don't
know
if
I'm
feeling
that
well.
I'm
going
to
head
back
and
go
to
bed
early
back
at
the
hotel.
I
said,
okay.
And
I
stayed
out
with
the
AAers
and
went
to
coffee,
maybe
another
candlelight
meeting.
I
don't
know.
A
few
hours
later,
I
come
back
to
the
hotel
room.
And
Bob
has
this
man
from
our
ship
there
in
my
bed.
And
he
found
Blair.
His
name
is
Blair.
Blair
was
wasted.
Bob
had
found
him
in
a
gutter
and
it
dragged
him
to
my
bed
in
our
hotel
room
and
had
prompt
him
up
next
to
the
headboard
with
an
end
table
and
a
chair
and
a
pillow.
And
Bob
was
reading
the
big
book
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
to
him.
And
I
look
at
this
scene.
I
go,
this
is
ridiculous.
Blair
doesn't
even
know
where
he's
at.
I
mean,
Blair's
like,
like,
well,
blah,
blah.
Right?
We're
having
to
hold
the
chair
and
hold
him
up
and
Bob's
reading
the
big
book.
And
I
think
this
is
ridiculous.
Blair
didn't
even
know
where
he's
at.
But
I
threw
my
two
cents
in
and
we
got
Blair
back
to
the,
we
carried
Blair
back
to
the
ship
and
put
him
in
his
rack.
That's
the
last
I
heard
of
Blair
for
the
next
few
weeks.
A
few
weeks
later.
We're
in
San
Diego.
We're
in
port.
And
it's
3
a.m.
in
the
morning.
And
I'm
in
my
rack
on
the
ship
and
all
of
a
sudden,
Carl,
wake
up,
wake
up,
wake
up,
what?
And
it's
Bob.
Bob
says,
Blair's
on
the
Coronado
Bridge.
We're
going
to
get
him.
Apparently
over
the
last
few
weeks,
Blair
has
tried
to
drink.
He's
tried
to
drink.
He's
tried
to
drink.
He's
tried
not
to
drink.
He's
tried
not
to
drink.
He
apparently
is
at
the
jumping
off
point.
He's
on
the
Coronado
Bridge.
And
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
know
about
the
Coronado
Bridge
down
in
San
Diego.
Big,
big
bridge.
It's
an
extremely
popular
suicide
spot.
It's
such
a
popular
suicide
spot
that
they
actually
have
telephones
up
on
the
top,
directly
connected
to
the
suicide
hotline
just
in
case
you
have
a
little
change
of
heart.
They're
hoping
that
you
change
your
mind
before
you're
in
midair.
You
know,
when
we
think
this
might
be
a
bad
idea.
Yeah.
and
Blair
had
gotten
on
to
this
suicide
hotline
phone
and
was
talking
to
a
very
well-meaning,
highly
educated
suicide
hotline
counselor.
And
this
is
apparently
what
Blair
was
telling
this
counselor.
I
will
only
talk
to
Bob
W.
The
counselor
was
saying,
who's
Bob
W?
Blair
was
saying,
it's
anonymous.
Okay.
So
this
counselor
went
and
got
her
boss,
another
well-meaning,
highly
educated,
suicide
hotline
counselor,
and
they
started
doing
the
good
cop,
bad
cop
routine.
And
they
started
firing
questions
at
him.
And
they
found
out
that
he's
in
the
Navy
and
what
ship
he's
from.
So
they
decided
to
maybe
take
a
shot
in
the
dart,
trying
to
find
a
needle
in
a
haystack.
They
called
down
to
my
ship
to
the
quarterdeck
at
3
a.m.
And
the
suicide
hotline
people
said,
this
is
really
a
stab
in
the
dark.
But
is
there
a
Bob
W
on
that
ship?
Now
the
man
who
answered
the
phone
that
morning
out
of
the
300
men
Now,
my
first
sponsor,
Bob,
he
would
guard
your
anonymity
at
the
level
of
that
ship,
but
he
never
tried
to
guard
his
own
so
he
could
be
of
service
at
any
time.
So
the
guy
who
answered
the
phone
said,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
Mr.
12
steps,
we
know
all
about
him.
So
they
go
down
and
get
Bob.
Bob
comes
to
get
me,
Carl,
wake
up,
wake
up,
and
I'm
like,
oh,
okay.
And
so
I
hop
into
Bob's
car
and
we
start
driving
down
to
the
Coronado
Bridge.
And
as
we're
driving,
Bob
says,
Carl,
grab
the
big
book
out
of
the
glove
box,
bone
up
on
working
with
others.
It's
like,
huh,
okay,
okay.
It
says,
see
your
man
alone
if
possible,
Bob.
He
says,
oh,
forget
it.
We're
going
to
wing
it.
So
we
get
down
to
the
base
of
the
Coronado
Bridge,
and
everything
that
San
Diego
County
has
available
for
a
situation
like
this
is
there.
The
police
department
is
there.
The
paramedics
are
there.
The
fire
department
is
there.
The
on-duty
psychologist
is
there.
And
they
have
a
telephone
system
wired
up
to
him
up
at
the
top
of
the
bridge.
And
Bob
and
I
start
walking
up
on
the
scene
here.
And
the
fireman,
who
seems
to
be
in
charge,
looks
over
at
us
and
goes,
is
one
of
you,
Bob
W?
And
Bob
goes,
yeah,
that's
me.
He
goes,
I
don't
know
what
you're
going
to
do.
We've
been
talking
to
her
for
an
hour,
and
he's
not
budging,
but
go
ahead.
Hands
him
the
telephone.
And
Bob
says,
Blair,
and
you
can
hear
on
the
other
end,
Bob,
is
that
you?
Bob
says,
yes,
Blair.
Now
get
the
hell
down
from
that
bridge.
You
hear,
okay.
Okay.
One
alcoholic
can
affect
another
alcoholic
like
no
one
else
can.
Don't
forget
that.
We
need
to
take
our
seats
in
our
home
group.
Two
years
sober,
I
got
an
honorable
discharge.
That
is
a
result
of
a
merciful
God,
the
steps
of
alcoholics
anonymous,
and
a
personnelman
that
lost
half
my
file.
That's
how
I
got
a...
And
as
I
told
you,
I
was
going
to
school
as
making
an
amends
to
my
parents,
and
I
had
chosen
the
university
in
the
area
of
Los
Angeles
called
Covena.
And
through
having
to
make
all
the
other
amends,
I
was
still
broke.
I
was
getting
the
Navy
paycheck,
and
I'll
maybe
talk
about
this
later
this
weekend
if
I
get
around
to
talking
to
that
portion
of
my
sobriety.
But
I
was
broke,
and
I
was
still
push-starting
the
same
car
that
I
got
sober
in,
a
68
Volkswagen,
hole
in
the
floorboard,
I
had
to
push-start
it.
It
hits
on
about
two-cellar-ears,
pop-pah.
the
headlight
it
has
duct
tape
on
it
and
you
know
coat
hangers
are
keeping
things
together
and
everything
I
own
is
in
that
car
and
I'm
two
years
sober
and
I'm
driving
up
the
LA
freeways
and
I'm
thinking
I
need
a
life
I
really
need
a
life
I've
heard
people
talk
about
that
in
AA
I'm
going
to
I
need
to
go
get
a
life
I
want
to
do.
I
won't
have
much
time
to
go
to
meetings
because
I
need
to
work.
I
need
to
go
to
school
and
I
need
to
get
a
life.
And
then
I'll
get
active
again
in
AA,
but
I
need
to
get
a
life.
And
I
decided
I
would
just
stop
in
this
town
of
Kavina
to
see
where
the
meeting
hall
was
so
that
if
I
needed
a
meeting
while
I'm
getting
a
life,
I
would
know
where
I
could
go
if
I
needed
a
meeting.
And
I
pulled
into
a
noon
meeting,
and
Bob
and
I
had
made
an
arrangement
that
I
needed
a
new
sponsor
because
he
still
had
two
more
years
to
do
in
the
Navy.
Okay.
and
the
ship
was
leaving
for
Asia
for
nine
months.
So
I
was
not
even
going
to
be
able
to
communicate
with
him.
So
he
had
said
I
needed
to
get
a
new
sponsor.
But
I
wasn't
thinking
about
that.
I'm
thinking
about
getting
alive.
And
I
pulled
into
this
AA
club
for
a
noon
meeting.
And
the
man
making
coffee
that
day,
a
man
named
Eddie
Cochran,
one
of
the
pioneers
of
Southern
California
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
and
he
walked
up
to
me.
And
he
had
a
medallion
hanging
around
his
neck
with
a
circle
and
triangle,
and
it
said,
1951.
Now
I
did
the
math.
That
meant
he
was
10
years
sober
when
I
was
born.
And
he
walked
over
to
me
and
he
said
the
very
same
thing
that
that
man
said
to
me
when
I
was
fresh
out
of
treatment,
at
my
first
meeting
out
of
treatment.
And
he
said,
never
seen
you
before.
What
are
you
doing?
Now
this
time
I
had
a
much
better
answer.
I
said,
sir,
I'm
two
years
sober
and
I'm
fresh
out
of
the
United
States
Navy.
And
I
just
moved
here
to
go
to
the
university.
You
won't
see
me
very
much
because
I'm
going
to
be
very,
very
busy.
And
I'm
going
to
be,
other
than
taking
21
units
at
the
university,
I'm
going
to
have
to
work
to
support
myself,
and
I
need
to
get
a
life.
I
need
to
get
a
life.
And
once
I
get
a
life,
I'll
get
active
again
in
AA,
but
you
won't
see
me
very
much.
But
it's
nice
to
meet
you,
and
it's
nice
to
see
where
the
meeting
hall
is.
And
Eddie,
if
you
ever
knew
him,
he
had
this
laugh.
He
was
like,
he.
And
he
said,
oh,
son,
son,
son.
School
and
work,
that's
wonderful.
That's
wonderful.
But
that's
what
we
do
in
between
meetings.
Okay.
And
what
he
was
really
telling
me
is
one
of
the
secrets
to
long-term
sobriety
comfortably
in
AA.
And
what
he
was
really
telling
me
is
that
I
need
to
live
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
visit
the
world.
Instead
of
trying
to
hash
it
out
there
in
the
world
and
visiting
Alcoholics
Anonymous
when
convenient.
One
of
the
first
things
he
told
me
I
needed
to
do
was
put
newcomers
in
my
car.
And
I
objected
it
first.
Eddie,
I
would,
but
I've
got
a
hole
in
the
floorboard.
I
have
to
push
start
the
car.
One
of
them
might
fall
through
the
floorboard.
He
said,
put
new
guys
in
your
car.
Your
life
will
get
better.
Now,
I
didn't
see
how
this
is
going
to
work,
but
I
took
his
direction
simply
because
he
was
10
years
sober
when
I
was
born.
And
the
very
first
night
that
I
followed
this
man's
direction...
My
life
got
better.
I
remember
after
the
meeting
looking
over
my
shoulder,
and
my
life
had
already
gotten
better.
The
new
guys
were
push-starting
my
car
for
me.
He
didn't
say
how
much
better.
He
just
said
better.
I
have
found
a
life
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
that
I
did
not
even
know
was
available
for
a
man
like
me.
See,
my
problem
is
that
I
don't
know...
how
to
see
the
colors
of
life
on
my
own.
I
do
not
know
how
to
hear
the
music
of
life,
and
I
don't
know
how
to
connect
with
my
brothers
and
sisters.
The
only
way
I
was
able
to
do
that
before
was
somewhere
between
the
fifth
and
eighth
drink,
and
I
was
never
able
to
do
that
when
you
took
alcohol
away
from
me.
And
what
Alcoholics
Anonymous
has
allowed
me
to
do
is
to
see
the
colors
of
life,
to
hear
the
music
of
life,
and
to
be
able
to
connect
with
my
brothers
and
sisters
in
a
profound
way
that
I
did
not
even
know
was
available.
The...
Another
thing
that
I
can
describe
to
you
that's
happened
to
me
in
the
24
years
that
I've
been
here.
I'll
tell
you
this
story,
and
this
can
pretty
much
sum
it
up,
especially
with
my
family.
This
would
have
must
have
been
1998,
and
I
was
asked
to
come
down
to
Nogales,
Arizona
for
a
conference
of
some
sort.
And
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
remember.
You
guys
had
cell
phones
way
before
everybody
in
the
U.S.,
but
in
1998,
some
people
had
cell
phones,
but
not
everybody,
but
lots
of
people
carried
these
pagers.
Anybody
under
25
years
old
goes,
a
pager,
what's
a
pager?
And
we
would
have
nationwide
coverage,
but
there'd
be
these
big
blackout
areas
where
your
pager
wouldn't
work.
So
before
I
left
for
Nogales,
Arizona,
and
anybody
ever
been
to
Nogales,
Arizona?
It's
like
the
armpit
of
the
United
States.
I
mean,
there
is
nothing
there.
Before
I
left,
I
called
my
mother.
And
I
go,
Mom,
if
you
try
to
page
me
this
weekend
and
I
don't
answer,
I
don't
want
you
to
worry.
I
have
to
go
to
Nogales,
Arizona,
and
I'll
be
there
until
Sunday
evening,
and
then
I'll
check
back
with
you.
But
don't
worry.
That's
where
I'm
at.
You
go,
oh,
you're
going
to
be
in
Nogales.
Oh,
you
need
to
call
up
Don
and
Leona.
They
would
love
to
hear
from
you.
And
I
go...
remind
me
mom
who's
and
she
goes
oh
that's
right
you
probably
haven't
seen
them
since
you
were
nine
years
old
oh
you
car
remember
they've
been
lifelong
friends
dawn
was
the
best
man
at
your
father's
in
my
wedding
and
I
go
oh
that's
right
yes
I
know
who
that
is
so
I
called
up
Don
before
I
left
and
I
go
Don
this
is
Carl
Morris
and
I'm
going
to
be
down
in
no
gallows
apparently
just
20
miles
south
of
you
and
maybe
on
Saturday
afternoon
I
could
drive
up
and
we
could
have
a
cup
of
coffee
or
some
lunch
and
he
goes
oh
Carl
bring
your
golf
clubs
I
know
you
love
to
golf
and
I'm
like
Well,
how
does
he
know
that?
It's
true.
I'm
like
a
golf
whore.
I'll
golf
with
anybody
at
any
time
for
any
reason.
I
don't
even
need
to
know
your
name.
I'll
golf
with
you.
But
I
was
surprised
that
he
knew
that.
So
I
brought
my
golf
clubs
with
me.
And
on
Saturday
morning,
I
left
the
conference
and
I
drove
up
the
freeway.
I
met
him
at
his
golf
course.
And
we
started
to
walk
along
and
golf.
And
as
we
were
walking
along
and
talking,
he
was
asking
me
very
specific,
pertinent
questions
about
my
life.
And
the
more
questions
he
had,
I
mean,
it
was
obvious.
He
knew
what
school,
what
university
I
graduated
from,
what
my
degree
was
in,
what
companies
I'd
been,
and
what
the
recovery
homes
I'm
involved.
He
just
knew
everything
about
my
life.
It
was
obvious
by
his
questions.
And
I
was
trying
to
squeeze
in
a
couple
of
questions.
You
know,
I
hadn't
seen
him
since
I
was
nine
to
find
out
why
they
had
moved
from
Duluth,
Minnesota,
down
here
to
Tucson,
Arizona.
You
know,
I
didn't
know
anything,
but
I
was
trying
to
find
out,
but
he
knew
everything.
Right.
And
so
by
the
fourth
hole,
I
said,
Don,
I'm
really
confused.
How
on
earth
you
know
all
this
about
my
life?
I
haven't
seen
you
in
20
years.
He
said,
oh,
that's
easy,
Carl.
Before
your
father
passed
away
in
1996,
you
couldn't
shut
him
up.
He
would
just
go
on
and
on.
It
was
kind
of
irritating,
but
we
listened.
He
would
just
go
on
and
on
about
everything
you
were
doing
in
your
life
inside
A&A
and
outside
of
our.
He
was
just
so
proud.
Now,
this
wasn't
news
to
me.
I
knew
that
because
I
had
taken
your
direction
and
I
had
not
procrastinated
on
reconnecting
with
my
father.
Now,
this
is
true
in
my
life.
I
don't
know
about
your
situation,
but
in
my
life
had
I
procrastinated
and
not
reconnected
with
my
father
man
to
man.
And
he
had
passed
away
before,
if
you
would
have
passed
away
before
I
took
your
direction
to
do
this,
I
would
have
lived
the
rest
of
my
life
as
half
a
man.
Now
that's
true
in
my
case,
maybe
not
yours,
but
don't
procrastinate.
So
it
wasn't
news
to
me
to
hear
this,
but
it
was
nice
to
hear
from
a
lifelong
friend.
But
the
next
thing
he
said,
I
couldn't
even
swing
a
golf
club
anymore
because
he
said,
and
besides
every
year,
Carl,
I
get
that
Christmas
letter.
I'm
like,
yes!
Yes!
I'm
in
that
thing
now.
When
I
was
17
years
sober,
I
got
married
for
the
first
time
in
my
life.
We
had
two
beautiful
kids.
Madison
and
Ryan.
They
are
four
years
old
and
six
years
old.
Unfortunately,
the
marriage
did
not
work
out.
I
know
that's
very
uncommon
in
AA.
It's
a
tragic
story.
No,
we
worked
out
a
really
good,
amicable
situation
in
order
that
we
can
co-parent
these
children,
and
it's
working
out
beautifully
so
far.
We've
been
divorced
now
for
three
years,
and
we
are
really
good
friends,
and
we
are
good
parents.
And
I
never
knew,
and
if
you
don't
have
children,
you
may
not
know,
because
when
I
used
to
hear
people
talk
about
their
children,
I
would
just,
oh,
yeah,
but
I
didn't
know
it
the
way
I
know
it
now.
That
there's
this
level
of
love
for
another
human
being.
That
is
deeper
and
more
profound.
It's
like
you
meet
who
you
would
die
for
gladly
if
it
meant
they
could
live.
You
see,
I've
experienced
what
I
like
to
call
reminded
unconditional
love.
That's
where
you're
acting
like
a
jerk.
I
remember,
oh,
that's
right,
love
is
unconditional.
Oh,
yes.
But
here
with
my
children,
it's
instinctual
unconditional
love.
I
don't
need
to
think
about
it.
It's
just
there.
And
I
love
my
children
with
all
my
heart.
And
I
would
never
trade
my
children
for
the
first
drink.
Never
in
a
million
years
would
I
trade
my
children
for
the
first
drink.
But
I'm
alcoholic.
I
understand
my
alcoholism.
Although
I
would
never
trade
them
for
the
first
drink,
I
would
trade
them
for
the
second
drink
like
that.
Because
once
I
take
a
drink,
all
bets
are
off
about
anything
that
I
care
about.
So
there's
nothing
more
important
in
my
life
than
to
stay
in
the
center
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
absolutely
nothing
more
important
in
my
life
than
to
stay
in
the
center
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
I
want
to
thank
you
for
listening
to
me
tonight.
And
I'm
going
to
be
here
all
weekend
and
we're
going
to
be
doing
some
other
stuff
and
having
a
good
time
talking
about
steps.
And
again,
I
love
being
an
Icelander.
And
I
love
being
an
alcoholic
Icelander.
Good
night.