The Lethbridge & Southern Alberta Roundup in Lethbridge, Alberta

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good evening everyone. My name is Travis Selbers and I'm an alcoholic.
Justice a little better maybe.
OK, so
maybe just start off by just thanking, you know, it takes understanding and can see that throwing, putting together a roundup like this takes a lot of work and, you know, a lot of self sacrifice.
It doesn't just happen. There's a lot of money and a lot of preparation and I really appreciate
all, all that has been been done for me. And, and, you know, just thank you the committee for for being able to, to put on an event we can all get together and, and
share experience, strength and open.
Yeah, Tyler, Tyler Feeks gave me a call. And, you know, I couldn't couldn't have called from A at a better time there. I was at work, I was working a night shift and man, I didn't want to be there and
I want to be home with my wife. And, and you know, I was getting a little bit of razz from, from the guys at work. And
he called in and just totally changed my day right around. And I probably, I got the message and, and probably sat in my chair for about two minutes or five minutes and absolute amazement. You know, it was the longest time I paused ever. You know, it was, it was, yeah, it was pretty, pretty mind blowing. I, I couldn't believe it. You know, I, I got this, this joker I discussed maybe to start off a little bit of humor. I could probably recite it
from my memory, but I don't know if I'd like to do that. I'd probably miss the punch line or something. So,
you know, feel free to laugh, you know,
make me feel a little bit better anyway. But you don't have to.
Friend forwarded me this. This is now this is drunk. A man goes to a party and has too much to drink. His friends played with him to let him take let them take him home. He says no. He only lives a mile away, about five blocks from the party. The police pull him over. They check his license and ask him to get out the car and walk the line. Just as he starts, the police radio blares out. A notice of robbery is taking place in the house around the block. The police tell the party animal just to stay put,
they'll be back in and they run around the corner to the robbery. The guy waits and waits and finally decides to drive home. When he gets there he tells his wife he's going to bed and tell anyone who might come looking for him that he has the flu and he's being in bed all day. A few hours later the police knock on the door. They ask if Mr. Smith is there and and his wife says yes. They ask him, ask to see him and then she replies he has been in bed all day and has been there.
He has been in bed with the flu and has been there all day. The police still have his driver's license. They asked to see his car. She asked why
they insist on seeing his car, so she takes them to the garage. She opens the door and there the police car with lights on and everything is sitting in this man's garage.
This man told this story on his first a a meeting. You know what?
I want to disappoint anyone, but I don't think my story is as intriguing as that would be. But
I guess, no, I don't know there's anyone new here today. If you, you know, probably have your attention for the next 5 minutes. I know that because I was new once and I didn't really pay too much attention. But, you know, if, if you're new or, or the fellowship or the program of local economics and you, and you hear one thing that, that I have to say, I just hope that you hear that, that there is a solution,
the alcohol and alcoholism and, you know, we can recover one day at a time. You know,
it was, it was explained to me in the beginning, you know, I, I always, you know, like, why, why does someone come around here for, for 30 years? And, you know, I always thought, why doesn't this guy get it already? You kind of just, you know, figure this thing out and, and start some more controlled drinking. And, and you know, was explained to me once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. And, and
you take a cucumber and you pickle it and it turns into a pickle. And you can't take, you can't take the pickle out of the pickle, you know, so, so they, they said you, you're pickled, you know, and
I thought, okay,
you know, Alcoholics Anonymous really has, has no monopoly on, on sobriety, but we do have a program of, of action and, and recovery that has helped millions of people stay sober.
No, I'm not a reformed drinker. I don't go go on crusades over drinking, you know, I just know that I cannot safely drink alcohol myself.
You know, when I first got, got into Alcoholics Anonymous, I, I just, I thought I was such a, such a bad person. You know, I did so many horrible things and, and I was just such a horrible person. I was just such a bad person. And, and, you know, working with some people and, and slowly I became to realize that that I wasn't a bad person. I was a sick person,
you know, you know, and, but I had this, this hopelessness and this feeling, my life just felt absolutely hopeless and, and totally meaningless, you know, and that's, that's how I felt when, when I came into the, to the rooms.
Umm, now there really is a difference between communication and listening. And I hope today that that maybe God can, can inspire and work through me and be, I'll be able to, to communicate a message. And, and maybe not as the, IT won't be the message that, that you hear, but, you know, hopefully we'll be able to,
God will inspire me to say something that,
you know, some, some people can be able to take home from this. And it was explained to me in the beginning that Bill W was, you know, was a co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous. And, and the big book was written with 100 men and women. And, and, and, you know, it was, it was kind of cool to see that, that how Bill writes. He, he's a very ambiguous, ambiguous writer. And he likes to, you know, take a number of different points or try to stress, to stress an idea. He would take
a number of different ways to,
or illustrations to be able to get that point across. And I don't know about you guys, but I sure know in the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous that there's, and, you know, we're always trying to, to teach in a different way. And we all learn differently. And and you know, it's, it's always better to to come up with, you know, the, the solutions stays the same and the message stays the same. But, but how it can be carried across can be different, you know, and
you know, it's born in in Stony Plain, AB. I
born in a Catholic family,
parents, good parents, you know, we had a pretty normal upbringing. You know, I was promiscuous at a very young age. I, I just had so many nameless fears, you know, and I just didn't think that, that I could trust many people. I, I didn't, I didn't understand and I couldn't identify with these fears. I just know that I had so many, so many of these nameless fears and and the first drink, you know that the first time I drank it, it took all that away. You and I
can't really describe it except for,
you know, and, and that's what, what the first drink did for me, you know, and it took all that away and I was able to, my skin felt like it fit and, and, you know, whether I fit in or not, I didn't care, you know, and, and that was just the way it was. And, and I was always so worried about what other people thought of me, you know, and, and the first drink took that away and it, and it basically distorted my perception of reality and, and, and eluded me from, from a reality.
Eventually, as I progressed in, in my alcoholism,
I had an intuition very early in my, I guess getting loaded career or drinking career that, you know, I had this, it was profound thought. It was like, you know, if you go down this path and continue to do things, the things you're doing, you're going to have trouble with this for a very long time. And you know, I, I, you know, it was crystal clear and, and I was just immediately dispelled and, and I immediately rationalize and justified the things that I was doing it and my actions,
you know, like it can't happen to me. And, and
you know, I'm too young.
I'll stop just before I lose control, you know, and, and all these different lies that I told myself. And maybe just to give you an illustration of, of where I was in my drinking
a little bit, a little bit into it, I was
drinking at a pub there. And before, a couple days before, I was talking with a member of AA and, and I was thinking, you know, planning and scheming on ways to, to get and more, get more and to be able to use more. And I figured, you know, if I take my truck and if I light my truck on fire, I'll be able to collect the insurance money. You know, I didn't know why I didn't sell my truck in the first place.
Doesn't make sense to me. But this was a brilliant idea. You know, I figured so if I if I light my truck on fire, I'd be able to collect the insurance money and then
go and go on this two week vendor and justice be rolling on dubs. But
I was at this pub and, and you know, I was just, I remember drinking this beer or whatever I was drinking and it was just going down like water and I was just pounding the stuff back. And, and all of a sudden I was, I was, you know, picking fights with, with all my friends.
You know, I was in conflict with my brother. We were outside kind of Tesla and around. I remember that night, I, I tried to call my ex-girlfriend
for a girl. You know,
I, my, my cousin pulled up, he was a little bit late to the party and, and you know, I was always just trying to get warmed up and I always overshot. Hey, you know, my, my cousin, he pulled up and, and I got all this stereo equipment in my arms and I'm, I'm robbing these vehicles all around this, this little puppy. I got radars and, and, you know, satellite radios and then ACD deck. And he says, what are you doing?
I didn't really know. And I threw I asked him if I could took this put this stuff in his truck. And that's all. I remember the night I woke up at A at a buddies place and and
I was looking for my truck and I didn't know where I put my truck a so I figured it must have been stolen. So so I called the the cops and and I reported it stolen. I filled out a police report. I called the insurance company and I reported stolen with them. And then I was at at an AA meeting that night and and the guy that I was told told I would start my truck on fire and and collect the insurance money. I told him I lost my truck and he said, well, there was a white GMC. It was a truck I was driving at the time. And he said that was
just last night in front of there was a white GMC. I don't know if it was yours, but it was on fire in between Stoney and Spruce. And I'm thinking, Oh no, you know, what did I do, man?
You know, so, so I didn't want to, you know, make any. I didn't want to go over there or nothing, you know, I
so I just kept looking for my truck and my truck
turned up three days later I found it. It was way down a back alley and and a number of blocks away from my friends house there. But you know, this is the insanity. I, I just didn't really have a clue and I was just trying to have fun, you know, and you know, just just trying to have fun and made a lot of friends that night. You know, as you can see,
I couldn't handle money. You know, I, I,
I, I really couldn't, you know, I, I'd work a number of different jobs, man. I would work everywhere. I would work on the pipelines, on the rigs or whatever, and, and anywhere that would pay me and I would make a bit of money and I would be gone, you know, and, and they would have no track of me And, and well, that's, you know, that's the, the way I was. I couldn't handle money at all. You know,
I questioned, you know, I really questioned my son. I questioned if I were a psychopath because I really didn't know. You know, I, I thought
I was absolutely the things I was doing and I thought I might be a psychopath. I entered Alcoholics Anonymous when I was 18 years old. You know, I sobered up when I'm 20, when I was 22.
I'm 25 today. I've had three years of continuous sobriety. And to the, I guess for the thanks for the grace of God and the fellowship and the program of Alcoholics Anonymous. But but when I got here, man, I couldn't tell the difference between the truth and the false. You know, maybe I could, maybe I just didn't care, you know, and I was, you know, when you're 18 that that's scary. You know, that's, that's a very scary place to be.
I, I was through four treatment centers. Every time I, I went there, I was waiting for the magic wand to come over and be waved over my head and, and to cure me. And, or they, they'd come up with this pill and, and they'd give me this pill and, you know, I would be able to, to drink safely again. I was waiting for the quick fix and it never came, You know,
umm, I thought, uh, I thought I, I was supposed to, to get involved in this one treatment center who was out of Calgary. And this treatment center was, was for a year long. And
I just couldn't see myself staying sober for, for a year, you know, I couldn't see it. And, and I thought that, you know, if I could go to treatment and if they kept me there for a year, that, you know, I would be able to get a little bit of sobriety and maybe a foundation under my feet. And, and I, I thought that, you know, I would never own anything worth anything of value anymore because I never, as soon as I had anything, I would always sell it or give it away or upon it. And, and
I thought I would have to have like a bodyguard. The book talks about, you know, we thought he had to have a bodyguard to, to walk around with him the whole time because he just couldn't,
couldn't stay sober on his own will. And that was me, you know, that was absolutely me. I lost the power of choice in drink, you know, and you know, there was at times there was no mental defense against against the first one.
I was still living with my parents at the time and, and I knew I was on my last legs there. And I came home one weekend from a vendor and, and my dad had my bags backed and he asked me where I wanted to go. And I didn't really know. He took me to the homeless shelter, the Herb Jamison Center downtown.
I just remember when he dropped me off, he was crying and we were both crying and, and you know, I didn't know what was, what was going on and, and I really wanted to, to stop, but at that time I really couldn't, you know, and I was the first time that, that I realized that, that this is serious and, and I probably lost the power of choice. You know,
I stayed in the, in the homeless shelter for seven months. We had a treatment deal there or whatever. And you know, I followed the program. I went into a transitional housing and I went back out again after seven months.
My last, my last drink, I was actually attending school. It was shortly after that I was attending NATO first year Millwright at Nathan and studying and I got through a couple weeks of the course and I was, you know, off to the races again.
I found myself in in a crack shack downtown in someones basement. There were guys that were beating me up. I was threatened that I was going to get tied up in a basement and raped. Everyone was carrying knives and, and,
you know, I come to the door and I'd get my face beat up and, and, you know, I just, I just couldn't all this stuff, man. And I couldn't kept, I couldn't stop from going to this place because that's, you know, that's where I got, I got loaded, you know, and, and I'm an alcoholic, but, but when I drink, it distorts my perception of reality and inevitably leads me to drugs, you know, and I had to come to the source and, and
you know, I, I, I'm an alcoholic, but, umm, when I drink it, it distorts my perception of reality And, and it inevitably leads me back to that first drink. You know,
I, I, I pulled a job from the Millwrights Hall. I'm a, a member with the Millwrights Hall. And I actually went to work in Madison Hat. I had to get out of the city. I just figured, you know, maybe the geologic triple cure or whatever would fix me. And, and I, I took off and to Medicine Hat. This guy, he picked me up, you know, I didn't have a vehicle. I didn't have a penny to my name. And, and a member, he picked me up and, and he, he drove me down there,
you know, he, he put my, my
ruralum on his, on his credit card. He, you know, bought me groceries. He took me to work every day with him. And, you know,
I was just like, how do you find a guy like this? You know, and I knew him a little bit, but, but he knew a little bit about me and, and he knew a little bit of, of where I was going and, and a couple things that I've been through. And, and just out of the goodness of this guy's heart, he kind of trusted me and was giving me another chance, you know, and I'd go to work five days a week and, and I'd walk to a meeting every day.
It was a 20 minute walk. And I'd walk to a meeting every night. And, you know, I'd change the garbages and, and wash the coffee cups at the end. And then I'd walk back and it was winter time and sometimes it was snowing and I just, I just knew I had to go to a meeting. You know, I,
I found this one guy and he wanted me to
write down, you know how how the first time I drank, you know why I drank, how it made me feel. He wanted me to write down halfway in my drinking career. You know, how, how it escalated, how it made me feel, why I drank. What was the outcome? You know, for the first time I drank the middle and, and the last time I drank and I was able to see the disease as described in the big book. I was able to see it progress
in my life. I was able to see the obsession of the mind, you know, taking over. And I was able to see how the allergy works. I went once I put it into my body, you know, it becomes virtually impossible to stop. So I couldn't stay sober because of my mind and I couldn't stop because of my body. And I was absolutely powerless over alcohol.
You know, I, I like to, it was described to me in the beginning, you know, we, we have a daily reprieve, you know, contingent on, on our spiritual condition. And,
and it's almost like, you know, you know, we're sick people, but what we have, we can recover from, from this disease. And it's almost like a person with, with diabetes, you know, you can't see it, but you just know what's there, you know, and, and they just need to get their daily insulin, you know, and that's what it's like for me. The The 12 Steps of Alcohol Extenormous is and the The Fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous is is my daily insulin that allows me to stay sobered one day at a time. And,
you know, I, I,
I, I, I stopped running from, from everything and, and all this, this chaos that I was creating in my life. And, and it's almost like the avalanche, you know, you can run and run and run and then all of a sudden you run out of breath and you can't, you can't run no more. And you stop. And this avalanche just covers you, you know, and, and life wasn't peachy for me when I first over it up, you know, it wasn't, I wasn't the greatest thing, but I had a lot of, a lot of stuff going on, you know, and, and that's, that's just the way, the way things went, you know, so, so lack of power was my problem. And I had to find a power.
You know in which in which I could live.
I was then told to to write a wanted higher power ad. You know, and, and
you know, I believed in God. I was raised in a Roman Catholic home, but you know, my God wasn't working for me, you know, so I had to come up with a new one. And so, so I started writing this wanted higher power. And I actually found it there the other day. I've, I've added a couple things to it. And if you don't mind, I'm going to just read out a couple things
I had been involved in in a, a, you know, for a number of years. And I was trying to get this thing and I knew
I seen that, that other people were doing it, you know, So it gave me a little bit of hope that if you can get sober doing it this way, then maybe I could, you know, and I just wanted to, to try and, and hone my beliefs to what the big book believed, you know, and maybe then I could, I could get sober and, and you know, it, it, I, I, my beliefs of, of God are, are a lot different today than, than they were when I, when I came in. And
a friend says, you know, I, I believe in a God today that that doesn't forgive me,
you know, and you kind of think, well, why would you believe in a God that doesn't forgive you? And he says
because he didn't condemn me in the 1st place, you know, and I think that's 100% the truth, you know? And, you know, we make our own problems and,
you know, we, we, we really, I do it to myself, you know, I do it to myself. And, and I kind of like that. And there's so many different things that, that if a guy becomes honest, willing and open minded, open minded, you know, this, this program can take you so many different places. But what I wrote down wanted higher power must discipline me to recover from a hopeless state of mind and body
to change my feeling, attitude and outlook on life, to provide an immediately immediate and overwhelming God consciousness to cede honestly honesty, willingness and open mindedness must create opportunity to be a productive member of society. I never thought I could ever be a productive member of society, you know, and that was important to me. Must be all inclusive, never exclusive. I was sick and tired of all the debates. What's right, what's wrong, this religion is right, that's wrong. And and I was just sick and tired of it. You know, I, I wanted just to believe in
God. That was that was all inclusive, never exclusive, you know,
willingness to to face my problems in the light of a as experience, a power that speaks to me through others people and and leads me to a place safe and protected. I would like to believe in a power that inspires me to place the needs of others ahead of my own,
that will be with me in all my activities when I ask. A power that is understanding and has a sense of humor gives me the ability to tell the difference between the truth and the false.
That helps
my Peace of Mind and prosperity. A power that inspires me to with intuitive thoughts.
It reminds me to to pause when agitated or doubtful. It's a place awareness in, in, in my recovery that that I know I'm not running the show and constantly remind me to to say to myself that I will not mine be done.
I believe in a power that could and would if you were sought. And you know, I believe that God will do for me what, what, what I can't do for myself. And, and I know you, you people,
a number of 80 members, you know, they just asked me a question point blank, you know, do you now believe or, or are you willing to believe? And, and it really is, is, can be that simple, you know,
so, so I, you know, even though like that I wrote down my characteristics of my higher power. I really thought that I found God, you know, but, but I really didn't find God. I just thought that I did, you know, and I found God later on in, in the 12 steps of alcohol synonymous. I was able to and maybe not even glad. Maybe it was this power, you know, and,
and really Step 2 is not about God. It's just about finding a power and lack of power was my dilemma. And, and I had a step one experience, you know, and I became open minded, you know, and I was, I was willing to to grasp on anything, you know.
I really had two alternatives, you know, and you know, I can go on. I can expect accept spiritual help because I honestly wanted to and was willing to make the effort or else I can continue to go the way I was going in. And that way, you know, I knew that nothing good was to come up in, you know, and my a friend in in a a that he describes it in a way, you know, it was almost like a fork in the road. You know, I could I didn't know where where the 12 steps of Alcohol's Anonymous were taking me, but I just didn't know
directly off the Cliff I was taking myself, you know, and I was good enough for me. You know, I was I was happy with that. I came in, I had two misconceptions. 11I I thought I knew what what God was and I really didn't. And and I thought I knew, you know, what, what an alcoholic was. And those really were were two huge misconceptions that, you know, that have a a lot better understanding of, of what that is today.
I was explained, you know, there really is 2 Alcoholics Anonymous there. There is the Fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous, which I tried to stay sober on
for the past three or four years of trying to get sober and I couldn't do it. You know, I had to get involved in, in working the 12 steps and I had to get, get my feet moving and to get get to work. And
you know, they asked me, you know, either either God is everything or he is nothing, you know, and, and what is my choice to be? And, you know, these things are are so simple how the book talks about these things and and
you know, simple, not easy. You know, it's, it's just the solution is simple, but it but it's not easy. You know,
the, the minute I was, I was able to see,
you know, it talks about in Page 60 to 60, three of our big book. And, and the minute that I was, I was finally able to see how I can be the actor and how I can control and manipulate things, you know, in my own life. And it wasn't just, you know, lip service or it wasn't just, you know, I, I, I, I'm saying I, I got it, but, but I really don't, I was able to actually see it in my day-to-day living and in my actions and, and how I'm dealing with things. And, and
that was incredible to me, you know, because that was, that was just the hugest thing that, you know, because you can't, you can't, you can't fix nothing. You don't, you, you can't see, right. And I was finally able to see that, you know, and,
and I thought that was the most coolest thing. You know, I I was the alcoholic who who prayed and prayed and prayed and, and just expected, you know, God to do the work for me. And and you know, the third step first is, you know, God Ioffer myself to thee to build with me and to do with me as I will. Then, you know, this is 5050. Feel you know, God's not going to do for me what I can't do for myself. And, and I really needed to, to do the things and take responsibility for myself and, and
the toughest thing in in recovery was, was to get sober doing it someone elses way, you know, because I had all these ideas, man, I had all these different plans and designs for my life. And I would come up, it's almost like being in the ring, just being in the ring with, with King alcohol, you know, and I come up with this idea and I'd go around with king alcohol and eat, knock my ass out and, and I'd be on the ground and, and,
you know, I'd be out for a little bit and, and all of a sudden, you know, no mental defense and, and
I lost the power of choice. And there I go again. I got this other idea on how to recover. And once again I'm knocked out. And that's, you know, that's the way it was. And, and I, I really the toughest thing, I think in recovery was, was to do it, you know, someone else's way because you know, you get involved in and you, they say, you know, you got to get a sponsor. And how does this guy know me? You know, like, what does this guy know? He's never known me. I got to call this guy. I didn't even know him. And I got to follow his advice, like,
what is this thing, you know? But that was that was really tough for me. And you know, the foundation
of steps 1-2 and three were absolutely critical.
I really didn't know what, what my will in my life was. And it was until I, I, I went through up to, to step 7 and I had a bit of a, a more better understanding of, of what my will of my life really was.
There's, there really is a difference between belief and faith and faith and trust. You know, and, and, and I heard one time that there's say, say a guy picks up a newspaper and he sees on the front page that this guy's tightrope Walker and he walks across skyscrapers in Edmonton And, and, you know, you go,
go to that place on my belief that this guy can walk across these skyscrapers, right? And you see them do it. You see them do it once and and you know, OK, well, you know, let's see it, do it again. And then he does it again. And and now you have faith that that he can do it again. You know, first you're going on belief. Now you see him do it a couple times. Now you have faith he can do it. And he grabs a wheelbarrow and he says, you think I can do it? And he walks his tightrope on his wheelbarrow, you know, and you have faith he can do it. You see him do it. And then he asks you, I want to do your trust. I can do it.
And you say, well, yeah, I trust you can do it. And he says, we'll jump in, you know, so,
so there's a big difference between belief and faith and, and faith and trust and
getting
by this time I'm almost, I'm coming back from, from Medicine Hat. And you know, I, I got, got to keep going because I would just do the, the 123 shuffle, you know, 123123123 and, and I would stop at 4:00 or I would stop at 9. And, and
I wasn't able to stay sober. I knew I had to, had to get more and, and I would try to do this step four. And I made huge progress and it was absolutely incredible part of my recovery, just sitting down, you know, one alcoholic with another, you know, with, with my sponsor at the time. And, and to go through this Step 4 process, I was able to, to, to write down my angers or my fears.
You know, what the, what the cause was, how it affected me. I was able to see, you know, how, how these things affected me
and then finally I was able to see my part. You know, I was able to finally see my part. I'm telling you, I couldn't see it, you know, I couldn't see it for the life of me. I, I tried and I, and it was, it was all that guy's fault, you know, and, and I would be blaming and my fingers will be pointing all over the place. And, and,
you know, resentment is, is a, is a reoccurring feeling, you know, and, and as it reoccurs and, and it becomes, I'm able to turn it into, from a mountain into a molehill really, really quick or, or a molehill into a mountain real quick. And
these feelings that I had, you know, they're real, but they're, they're just irrational, you know, like they but fancied or real. They had the power to actually kill me, you know, and, and, and I had to be rid of them. And, and I was, I was finally able to, to see some, some truth and, and some facts, you know, because my drinking was, was really but a symptom and I had to get down to, to the causes and conditions, you know, And
so, so getting down to, to more of the facts, I was able to, to see
and begin to take responsibility and not be the victim all the time, you know, because all the time. And I was just walking around and I was playing the victim always, you know, it was always done to me. And, and I was always pointing the finger. And, you know, my sponsor told me, you know, victims don't recover. And, and I couldn't afford to be a victim, you know, more. And, you know, I, I experienced enough pain and I really wanted to, to get sober. And so I really tried to, to begin to take responsibility for, for my own actions. And, and that was a big step, you know, that was
a huge beginning just to be able to do that. You know,
I would call call him on a couple different occasions. And, and this guy did that to me and he said that to me. And oh, well, you know, you don't have to be so over sensitive, you know, but this guy hurt my one feeling, you know, and, you know, I was able to, to see that, that, that I was an alcoholic a little bit on a deeper level. I was able to to see that that, you know, I'm, I'm not so unique as I thought I was, you know, and I thought
nobody could could understand how I feel, you know, and I was able to, to see that that I just wasn't, wasn't so unique.
Beginning to to see a little bit of patterns, you know, in, in my actions and thinking. And, and, you know, I was starting to analyze my motives for doing things a little bit, a little bit more. You know,
I, I would always assume things, you know, I would always read minds. I don't know if you guys do this every once in a while, but I'm a mind reader and, and I would make these assumptions. And, and
it was shown to me in the back of the book, you know,
there's one man who, one principal who will hold a man in everlasting ignorance. And that principle is contempt prior to investigation, you know, and that just brought me to, to, you know, don't, don't judge a book by its cover, you know, don't just assume things until you know the facts, until you absolutely are 100% sure, you know, And that gets me out of trouble sometimes, you know, And I thought that was pretty cool.
I was able to see a little bit better why I thought the way I thought and why I acted the way I acted. You know,
a number of times I would put these, put everyone on pedestals, you know, my sponsor and a couple of people in, in my Home group, you know, I would put these people on pedestals and, and they're only human, you know, and they're not perfect and they're going to fail. But when they failed, I would be absolutely devastated. But I was able to see that, that it's not right to put these people on, on, on pedestals and, and my rear roll, my real reliance must be on God, you know, and, and I was able to, to see that in this 4th step, you know.
I, I was able to see
numerous times that I place myself in a position to be hurt, you know, based on self. You know, I made decisions based on self, which later plays me in a position to be hurt time and time again. Man, it was, it was a lot of it coming down to selfishness, you know,
expectations. I had such high expectations of, of everyone and, and of myself and, you know, I had to begin to be a little bit more accepting of, of people, you know, places,
umm, tonight, to not take myself so seriously all the time, You know, to be able to, to just go about, about my day and, and be able to laugh at, at some of my mistakes that a, that a guy makes or, or, you know, just to cut up and, and have fun. And I was given, you know, it's outlined. There's a prayer for fear and, and a prayer for, for anger and, and you know, I was able to
finally see in the book and be able to, to recite these prayers every once in a while,
You know, when, when these things would crop up and
judgment, I would, I would judge people, you know, and I was absolutely terrified because, you know, I was, I was scared. I was, I was just a bad person because I would judge these people. And, and if I had, if I could, if I wanted to get sober, I had to quit judging for some reason. That's what that's what I thought. And, and you know, I'm telling my sponsor, I'm talking to my sponsor about this stuff. And, and he says, you know, judgment is, is a natural,
natural human instinct. And, and, you know, in, in order to, to judge,
everyone judges, you know, and everyone does judge. It's just, it's wrong for me to get to a place where I'm condemning and criticizing people, you know, but, but the judgments I have are, are, are absolutely, you know, everyone judges, you know, and, and I need to judge the, the, the healthy people and, but towards the non healthy people in order for me to stay sober, you know, so, so this is an important thing that that I need to do and it really can get off track if I start criticizing or condemning people.
A friend talks about, he says that he sees people in more Shades of Grey, you know, and, and we're all children of God and we each have the right to be here. Nobody's, nobody's higher or nobody's lower. You know, we just start to see things in a little bit more, more Shades of Grey. And you know, what, what other people think of me is none of my business. You know, I was able to, to see like these, these facts and, and this truth about myself was, was, you know, incredible. It was a good beginning
to, to recovery.
And I always thought about myself, you know, occasionally I thought what you were thinking about me, you know, but, but usually it was, it was, it was all about me. I,
I was, I was in Medicine Hat there one year later and, and
you know, the first year it was OK because I just needed to work and, and I was on firewatch. That was my duty. Hey, so my second year back I was a year sober now and I'm thinking I'm going to get all the good jobs and and you know what? They put me on Firewatch again, you know,
so I call my sponsor, they got me on Firewatch and I'm just pissed off. And, and
he says, you know, he talked me down and kind of calmed me down and, and said the right things and, and I went back to work the next day and I said, I talked to the farm and I said, you know what? I'm going to be the best Empire watch you ever seen, you know,
and, and the next day I wasn't a firewatch, you know, he had me on tools and I got to work on all different kinds of doing alignments and, and bearings and, and conveyors. And, and I thought that was, that was pretty damn cool to be able to talk about these secrets because our secrets keep us sick, you know, and in order to be able to, to get this stuff out in the light and to be able to just
get some truth, you know, it was, was absolutely incredible. And that's, I think that's, you know, if a guy comes in here and he's contemplating whether he's a psychopath or not,
or that has the ability to differentiate between the the truth and the false, false. But to get these these facts out on the table was, was just a huge part for my sobriety. And
we know we all have natural desires. It's when these desires exceed exceed what what they're meant to be, you know, that's, that's when I get myself into into quite a bit of trouble. And
no, I continue to pray for willingness to, to relieve me of, of my character defects. And, and continually reminded, you know, the difference between the boys and the men is, is the difference between someone who's willing to, to look at themselves and, and to question their motives and, and their natural desires and, and to, to, to try and look for these instincts that, that over exceed what, what they're supposed to, you know, and, and I just pray for, continue to pray for the willingness to, to,
to do that working the steps are uncomfortable for me, you know, and a lot of times it's just, it's just a different way of, of looking at things. It's, it's a different way of dealing with things. And, and, you know, it's, it's almost like asking a fish to jump out of the water and walk across the desert. You know, it's just, it's just 100% unnatural for me. And and that's that's what it was like.
You know, I, I tell my sponsor, I told my sponsor a couple times. You know, Mike,
if I could have done it alone, I probably would have, but, but, but I couldn't. And, and I really needed your help and I tried, you know, I, I really tried and not, no, no offense, but I wouldn't be here if I didn't have to be, you know, and I proved myself time and time again, man, that I needed to be here, you know, and, and if I could stay sober by myself, I would have been, and no offense to anyone in this room or, or anyone, but, you know, that's, that's the truth, you know, and I'm sure if you're honest with yourself, you could probably say the same thing. But
I try and keep things simple. And it really comes down to my selfishness, my dishonesty, my resentment, and my fear. You know, I'm trying and continue to to watch for these things. You know,
God is able to do amazing things in my life once I become willing to help him help me, you know,
he begins to, to turn these liabilities into priceless assets, you know, and I'm able to, to see,
begin to change through these steps. And I'm able to see that, that, you know, even even some of my bad things are, are, are assets to other people, You know, how can I relate with anyone? God's not going to make me perfect, you know, and, and, and why would he? Because I couldn't relate to nobody, you know, and you know, I, I, I keep making mistakes and doing these things and, and questioning why I did this. Because when I figured that out, I mean, I'm better able and, and more useful to, to other people, you know, And
umm, the solution is simple, but it's not easy. You know,
there's, there's this battle between, between two wolves. There's this native Cherokee
Indian and his grandson and he's telling his grandson a story and he says that, you know, there's this, this battle between inside a man and it's a battle between two wolves. And there's, there's the one wolf and, and he's fighting fierce and, and he's, he's got a bunch of anger, fear, resentment, you know, jealousy, dishonesty. And he's fighting against this other wolf. And this other wolf is full, his purity and, and love and compassion and, and
self sacrificing and, and the, the grandson's looking at his grandpa and he goes,
but grandpa, which one wins? And the grandpa looks down at his grandson and he says, the one you feed, you know, and isn't that the truth? You know, the, the wolf that wins for me is the one that I feed and the one that I, that I continue to feed with, with the good and the love and the self sacrificing. And, and you know, that that's the one that that seems to be more predominant in my life, you know, so I'm beginning to, to pray for the willingness to make some of these events that that I have to make. And
I'm,
you know, no matter what I gotta be, I gotta be willing whether whether a guy's going to jail, whether a guy's got to do do whatever, you know, as as long as, as long as I'm willing to, to make these amends. And I got this list and, and, you know, my men's list comes from, from my Step 4. And I'm on my way to go make some amends. And, and, you know, you know, in the first, the first little bit, you know, that my immense process was, was pretty simple. You know, I just
started showing up to work, you know, and,
and that was, that was a big, a big step for me. I started to, to pay my bills, you know, because I never used to do that.
I'm, I'm just coming off the IFS actually with my insurance company May, may, middle of May. So that's, that's, you know, I've been on IFS for for three years.
That's a 20% higher premium and I just never paid the insurance company. You know, I didn't think that, that I needed to pay them and for months on end, you know, I would just be
in my delusional state and all loaded and I didn't pay my insurance company. You know, I stopped putting empty envelopes in the bank machine trying to trick them that, that I was able to, to take out some money, you know, and, and in the beginning, it was all simple stuff, you know, but, but it was, it was big stuff for me. And, and I started to pay off creditors because I, I owed a bunch of money to, to creditors. And I was driving my dad's car to work one morning. I was between cars and between jobs
at the time and and you know, I hit this guardrail. I was actually smoking in his car and and he told me not to smoke in his car. Like what can I do? You know, I'm not perfect and I'm smoking in his car and I throw this cigarette flat out the window and it lands in the back seat. So I'm looking in the back seat trying to find the cigarette, but a nice smash right in this guardrail, man, it folds the car like right up. I'm lucky to be alive. I broke my sternum and
you know, I'm, I'm, I was able to pay for my dad's car, you know, I was able to, to, to say, you know, I wrecked your car and here's 2500 bucks, you know, and I would have never done that
had I been, had I been loaded. You know,
I, I, I don't know if you guys can relate, but, but I used to steal and, and I'm a thief, you know, I'm a, I'm a hard thief and I'm not, It was, some of it was, was pretty petty stuff. But, but
I, I would steal these water bottles from, from IGA and Co-op and I would, you know, I would walk out the door and I would empty them and then I would bring them back for 20 bucks, you know, and I would able to, you know, I was able to go out with a couple buddies and, and go at night on the town with these $20 water bottles. And,
and I was able to go back to the Coop and IGA and, you know, a bit by wrong and to give them restitution and, and stop stealing water bottles, you know, so, so not a water bottle thief anymore, you know,
but it was one time I was at the registries and I had a speeding ticket, you know, and, and I blew up on this, this girl at the clerk gay and, and this girl at the counter. And, you know, it was all it was all her fault. And I'm the victim and, and,
and I was able to go back with her and to say that that how I reacted to that situation was wrong, you know, and, and every time I go in there, I'm reminded because I don't want to make these amends again, you know, and I'm reminded that, oh, I better just pause one more second, you know, before I open my mouth. You know what? I'm able to get a little bit more clarity in, in how I react to things.
I started giving charity donations to, to maybe some amends that, that I was willing to make some, some amends and, and
you know, my sponsor pulled the reins back on me. And again, I'm, you know, I got to do things. I can't continue to do things my way. So, so I listen and, and I started making donations to to different charities.
I started to, to volunteer some time at the church.
Six months, six months later, I, I was filling out this late registration form and I was actually, and I was volunteering with the church and then all of a sudden I was,
I was unable or unqualified to volunteer with the church. A and that hurt, that hurt deep.
I, I had a talk with, with a youth counselor and he, I, I told him that, that I was going to, you know, pursue this and I was going to fight this because, you know, I, I really enjoyed what I was doing and I really enjoyed the sacrifice that I was able to give. I just felt a lot better the, the couple hours of service that I was able to do there. And, and, but at the time, I told him I was going to get more involved in Alcoholics Anonymous and I was going to throw myself harder into
maybe things that that I can do there in the time. And
six months later I was, I was back and able to get into service again with the church And, and I thought that was pretty cool. It was something that that I really loved to do and I really got a lot out of in the time. And,
you know, I, I started writing letters to my mom and my dad and I was, I was writing these letters to my parents. I remember just tears, man, just tears rolling down my face. And, and
these I was able to, to take them out for, for dinner. And I, I took my dad to, to a hockey game and I got him a nice guard and I gave him this letter, you know, and, and he just says he's so proud of me. And, and, you know, we've got to give him, give him a hug. And, and, you know, I took my mom out for for dinner and gave her a letter and, and, you know, you know, you know,
just just these these things, these moments that a guy is able to experience and really feel some love. You know,
there were times when I would call my sponsor, you know, what my family did and you know what my mom did. And, and you would just say, you know, look at all the love, you know, look at all the love and, and you know, thanks for that, You know, is there always surrounded by lots of love? You know, I just couldn't understand. A lot of times
I, I was in a shopping where it was Walmart or whatever, but I was looking at these cards for some reason, I seen this one card that had this, this herd of sheep
and there was one black one in the middle. And I thought, well, there's me in the black sheep. Hey, you know, but, but it was no secret, you know, my family all knew that I was the black sheep, but the family and, and they knew that I thought that, hey, they knew that, that that's the way I felt, you know, and, and I, I just remember my grandparents, they would pray for me and pray for me and pray for me. And I was just, it was just so incredible that, that their devotion for, for prayer. And I just wanted to maybe just to to give them this, this card and to tell them that
feel like a black sheep no more. And just, you know, say some some really kind words. And, and I was able to to give my grandma and grandpa a hug in and to tell them I love them. And, and I would have never done that had I been drinking either or, or been loaded. You know,
there there's a couple of relationships, a relationship with, with my dad and, and with my sister that there was a lot of pain. You know, there was a lot of pain. And these were probably, you know, the, the, the closest relationships that were hurt the most
And, and those relationships today are the strongest relationships I have, you know,
and that's not me, you know, that's, that's the power that I found. And that's, that's got to be a God, you know, and, and
my parents are the most self sacrificing people that I know. You know, they are, they're very selfless people. And, and I'm able to see that,
you know, I, I got married September 26th, 2009 to my beautiful wife here in the in the front. And that was an incredible day, you know, and I would have never been there, you know, I would have missed it all. I,
you know, and my parents were able to, to be there and, and to experience that. And, and I think there was just this healing, this healing power. And I was there, you know, and, and my dad told me after he just explained this, this, this feeling of, of this power or, or whatever that was there. And it was just this healing effect that, that he was able to feel, you know, and
I was with one of my older brothers on a, on a canoe trip. You know, it was a,
was on a stag and my older brother, she was up with a, with a cooler full of beer and hard alcohol, no food. Hey, and I'm thinking, oh, no, Oh no, you know, like, like, at least you got your priority straight. You know, at the end of the, the canoe trip, I, I, I had had enough. And, and I, I probably said a couple things that, that, you know, I, I regret a little bit today, but, but maybe
maybe God was using me as an instrument, you know, as, as someone to, to bring a little bit of truth and someone to, to show him
or not show him, but just to be able to,
I don't know. And I'm working with my sponsor on it. I'm thinking, you know, I should be making amends. And he says, you know, that this is the way it is right now. And, and, you know, but, but you know, I would have never, never been able to, to go on this canoe trip and, and to be able to, to stay sober without,
without the help that I found in Alcoholics Anonymous.
I've heard a number of times in AE, the biggest amends I owe is to myself, you know, and that's not true for me, you know, but the amends that I make to, to other people and the people that I have harmed, that's the byproduct of, of making amends to myself, you know, and you know that, that if that's my number one sole objective, then I'm on the wrong path, you know,
and, and really, you know, I, I, I pray for the willingness. And as I become willing, 100% willing, and I'm ready to do some of these amends, I've got to really be, be
conscious and paying attention to what my sponsor has to say because sometimes I can provide more harm than I'm doing good, you know, and, and even though I'm willing to make some amends, some men's just don't need to be made, you know, and, and maybe, maybe, maybe they don't. And maybe it's just not time yet, you know? Maybe it's just not time.
All right,
continue, I guess, continue to be able to take personal inventory. And, and I don't know why anyone would would want to do that unless they've experienced a little bit of a little bit of freedom, you know, from, from the remaining steps. And, and I guess I got to continue this stuff. You know, we don't graduate and you know, yeah, it's a it's a continued deal, I guess. And, and I had a misconception before of of what freedom,
what freedom was. And, and I always thought freedom was being able to, to do anything you wanted, whenever you wanted.
And I don't believe that today. I believe it's almost like like a train on the tracks and the train is, is on on a path, you know, and the train is, is doing what the train is supposed to be doing. You know, the train is on the path. If the train jumps off the track and starts going making his own, blazing his own trail, train is not going to be very free, you know, And that's almost like what it's like for me, you know, if I'm blazing my own trail and doing
following my own ideas and, and doing exactly the way I think I should be doing,
you know, and not following or seeking God or, you know, following what's what's written in the book, you know, I'm not going to be very free. You know,
this whole thing is, is almost like we're in just this, this big rock Tumblr, you know, and, and, and
the steps, you know, overtime, you know, we kind of the fellowship or clashing together. And, you know, we, we start to knock off the rough edges on our on our, you know, that we're each individual rocks and we start to to grind off these, these rough edges and, and we add the steps and then all of a sudden, you know, we're we're starting to shine a little bit, you know, and, and we're we're smooth and shiny rocks. You know, it's almost, it's almost like that.
I don't know,
I, I would always read this line in step 10 and, and,
you know, we begin to grow an understanding and effectiveness and others. And I always, always wonder, you know, like, what does that mean? You know, how do we grow in understanding and effectiveness of others? And, and, and I think I'm not saying I know what that means, but I'm just saying I think I know what that means. And, and what it means to me right now is that, you know, as I make mistakes and as I continue to, to question the path that I'm on, I'd be able to grow an understanding and effectiveness for others, you know, and be able to, to,
to hone how I can carry this message. And maybe I didn't react the way I should have, or maybe I should have done this. And, you know, those are the, the results of, I guess of, of step 10 and 11 and, and, you know, step 10, promise, you know, we begin to, to feel like we've been placed in a position of neutrality, you know, safe and protected. I never felt safe. I never felt protected when I, when I got to the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous and, and
sometimes I just think that like, I don't really have
have time to meditate. What, you know, that my day goes so much better when, when I'm actually able to take a couple minutes out of the day and to pause to continue to ask for, for guidance and strength and, and my day goes, goes so much better. There really isn't, there really isn't an end to this is, you know, all inclusive. If, if I'm getting bored in Alcoholics Anonymous, you know, I just, I'm, I'm not seeing the picture. I don't think. Hey. And then I've just
been able to see so many, so many incredible things and be able to be able to experience
just loads of different avenues a guy can, can get into and to become a little bit more of service or
it really is an A kindergarten for me to to spirituality. You know, Alcoholics Anonymous is really, you know, we're not this huge spiritual giant. It's really an A kindergarten. I was,
I was in male right class here and I was doing this, this alignment or studying how to, how to do an alignment. And, you know, I, I got 95% on, on the theory part and, and I get into the shop and I'm, I'm supposed to do this alignment and I should know how to do this alignment. And I got 95% theory and I can't do this alignment, you know, and, and pretty much
the, the instructor was able to, to kind of guide me and, and which tool to pick up at the time
in order to put it into action. And that's exactly what a sponsor is for me, you know, because I can have 100% knowledge in the big book and know 100% of what I'm supposed to do and not know how to apply it, you know, into my daily life. Today
I'm, you know, God willing, I'll be a fourth year apprentice at the end of this year. In this last year, you know, I've been able to experience and go to a couple of a roundups. I went to an A, a men's retreat in, in Jasper. I was, you know, the most serene spot that I've, that I've been to in the mountains. I was able to spend some time with NBC with, with my wife's family.
You know, I, I went to Mexico right after completing my third year apprenticeship
at Nate. I went to Mexico with with my wife and my family. You know, today I I own my own home and I haven't defaulted on any of my payments. You know, that's that's incredible. You know, for me that that's, that's a huge, huge deal. You know, at our,
we choreographed our first dance, you know, and it went absolutely like we actually, you know, we practice, we put about six hours or whatever into this into this first dance And, and we got we paid for for someone to kind of watch us and, and step through this our first dance at our wedding. And, and you know, I wouldn't trade that for nothing. Anyway, you guys, it was it was fun and it was a little bit a little bit nerve wracking and and frustrating at times, but but the end result it was, you know, it was.
Pretty incredible.
I did a couple of home rentals at my house and I was able to, you know, a couple of my dad and, and myself and, and a couple of Milenza brothers and sisters came over and, and built a deck at my wife's place. Went on a, a honeymoon to, to Bali, Indonesia, you know, and for, for 10 days or, or a week and we got to spend 3 days in, in Vancouver, you know, before we went with, with my cousins,
you know, I got to get a little bit more active in my Home group and,
and in District 10, we got this cool deal going on right now. It's
API committee public information where we got two schools that we're supposed to speak to,
to high schools and, and, you know, we've got a couple of members on the committee there. And, and that's just, you know, the most, one of the most inspiring things and, and something that gives me so much more motivation and to be able to give back and, and to, just to, to be able to,
to say that there is a solution and maybe lay down a couple of the spiritual tools, you know, for, for these high school kids.
My wife was pregnant for for nine months, actually. And
that's how long it takes, I guess. And
I I didn't know how how anyone could ever think
a pregnant woman could is beautiful. You know, I just didn't understand it at once and at first. And, and, you know, we're, we're driving
from bath, my cousin's wedding there and I'm looking at my wife and she's just going to give birth in like a couple weeks time. And, and, you know, I got tears running down my eyes and I'm just, I can only look at her and say that she's the most beautiful woman that I've ever seen, you know, and I absolutely 100% felt that, you know, and, and she, I just didn't understand, you know, and my wife was, was the most beautiful pregnant woman that I've ever seen. You know,
we have a newborn baby. She was born
March 25th, 1140, 11:44 AM. She was 8 lbs six oz. Her name's Vienna. She's just a beautiful girl. And, and, you know, we're, we're going to get to do so many cool things together, you know, and it's, it's just really the beginning.
Peace of Mind is a priceless gift. And, and you know, the Alcoholics get to experience great suffering and great love, you know, and I've experienced just a tremendous amount of love. And I'm so, just so proud of her. You know, I'm so proud of both of them. And all this, all this that that's I've been able to do and experience and be a part of, you know, and I want more. I would just want more, you know, I want, I want to be able to work with, with
on alcoholic, with another alcoholic, you know, and that's really how it begins. I want to be able to give this away. You know,
it was described, you know, there's, there's an alcoholic, he's walking down the street and he falls into this pit and, you know, this, this, this huge pit and he can't get out And, and he looks up and, and there's a doctor there and, and he's asking for help and his doctor's right and have a bunch of prescriptions and he throws them down in the pit. And he says, you know, when you get out and he'll get your leg looked at and, and fill these prescriptions, you'll be OK.
The doctor can't help him. He goes on his way, right. There's a lawyer that walks by and he says, you know, this pit shouldn't be here in the 1st place. I don't know why you fell down here, throws his card down there and says, you know, when you get out, we're going to get a lawsuit on this guy, you know, and give me a call. There's a priest that walks by and, and the priest, you know, throat gives him a sign across, says a prayer. And you know, he, he, that's really all he can do. He's got to give a service in, in 10 minutes till the preschool is on his way. And, and there's an alcoholic that's walking by and, and
man down in a pit and he jumps down on the pit with them and the guy looks at him like he's absolutely nuts. And the guy says, you know, what are you doing down here? You know, and this guy looks at him and he says, you know, I've been here before and I know the way out. You know, if I want to get my car fixed, I go to a mechanic. If I want to, you know, get surgery, I go to a surgeon. If I want to recover from alcoholism, I want to talk to another alcoholic, you know, and, and I want to be able to to give
back what what I was, what I was freely given.
I was just one more thing and I'm going to be out of here.
It's called it's just a Pullman. I just think it's the greatest Pullman. It's called the touch of the Masters hand.
It was battered and scarred and the auctioneer thought it hardly worth his while to waste his time on the old violin, but he held it up with a smile. What am I bid good people? He cried. Who starts the bidding for me? One dollar, $1.00. Do I hear 2-2 dollars? Who makes it 3-3 dollars? Once, $3 twice. Going for three, But no. From the room far back, a Gray haired man came forward and picked up the bow. Then, wiping the dust from the old violin and tightening up the strings, he played a melody
sweet, as sweet as the Angel sings. Music ceased, and the auctioneer, with a voice that was quiet and low, said, what now I bid for this old violin as he held it aloft with his bow. 1001 thousand do I hear too? 2000 Who makes it? 33000 wants 3000 twice going and gone, said he. The auctioneer cheered, The audience cheered, but some of them cried. We just do not understand what changed Its worth Swift, came the reply, the touch of the master's hand. And many a man with life out of tune, battered with
urban and gin. It's auctioneer, cheap to the thoughtless crowd, much like that old violin, a mess of pottage, a glass of wine, a game. When he travels on, he's going, Once he's going, twice he's going and almost gone. The master comes and the foolish crowd could never quite understand the worth of the soul and the change that is wrought by the touch of the masters hand. I think that's a pretty powerful foam. And
thank you for the opportunity to be a part of this roundup and I hope everyone enjoys their weekend and and God bless.