How it Works

How it Works

▶️ Play 🗣️ Clarence S. ⏱️ 1h 14m 📅 02 Jul 1982
For the EF Hutton of AA now, yeah. So listen,
Ryan, Clarence Schneider, and I'm on three. I'm a rummy
and I
and I have recovered a lot of people. I hear them always say they're recovering. When do we recover?
We recover when we go into this program, and we can stay recovered as long as we stay in the program. If we want to unrecover why we didn't regret going into it or get out of it, quit going
pending meetings and switch working by the plan that we have.
You know, I hear an awful lot of things about this program and I probably had more opportunity to hear these things and see them than too many people have since I've been around here longer than anyone else and I've had my last birthday was in February. I had 44 years
fellowship.
This does not qualify as me as Moses but believe me I have learned a few things. Any dumb as I am, you have to learn something in that length of time if you stay active and stay around these people.
And I hear an awful lot of things about this program and I hear people say how hard they're trying to work this and they're working this and they're working that stuff, they're working something else. And I hear them say sometimes I don't know how it works. It just works
well. It sucks. If you read the big book, it tells you how it works in chapter 5. And I have a fundamentalist in AAI believe in the fundamentals of this program.
I happen to come into this program before it was known as alcoholic synonymous and before this 12 step program was put together. Yet we had a six step program in the old Oxford Movement and all the people who preceded me in a number of them that came afterwards came into that Oxford group. We found that Alcoholics are different than people
and we and we found that Alcoholics have to have their own society.
We all our origin to the Oxford Movement and they were wonderful people, but they were all civilians.
And I saw very early in my life in, in this fellowship, friction developing between the Earthlings and the rummies. And it got to the point where it got rather desperate at times
due to a number of due to a number of reasons, we had to break away and start our own fellowship uses mostly because of the idea of religion. The nobody hears against religion. I hope that this wasn't what we what I'm talking about. The Oxford Movement was a Protestant religious fellowship,
and Catholics did not belong to it for the simple reason the Church did not permit them to. And
in my struggling around to try to find some members and I left City Hospital in Akron in February 1938, my sponsor, Doctor Bob, told me to go back up to Cleveland and spend the rest of my life fixing rummies as an avocation. And I sat up there and tackling rummy. There's like a signal. Now remember, we had no book, we had no group, we had no literature, we had no nothing.
So I walked up to some drunk on the street and I tell her, hey, Butter, you ought to quit drinking. You ought to be like me.
Well, this is a great approach
and I did get some resistance,
but after seven months of that carrying on, I finally nailed the guy and he is my first baby and I got him in the hospital and I was walking four feet off the ground. I finally had a comfort, something I think in those days my main object was I didn't feel I'd ever be a member of this great fellowship until I had successfully sponsored someone.
So I went out after that with a vengeance and mostly the vengeance is taken out on me.
But anyway, it finally happened and I've come to realize why it took me 7 months to sew up my first baby.
It says something in our program about carrying a message.
Well, I simply didn't have a message. I had a lot of time, a lot of brass, a lot of eagerness and a lot of ego. And what have you said? I had no message
that one. I'm trying because this fella bought it. He was a poor guy. He was a captive audience, but he bought the squatter anyway.
And from that point on, they start coming in real fast.
Had a dozen men going down Akron from Cleveland,
and as it happened, seven of them were Catholics and five of them were other into those.
And
they saw this performance going on in the Oxford Movement. All this witnessing and getting guidance for other people and reading out of the King James Version of the Bible and all this, all this, it really got wild. Sometimes these classics looks at me and looks at each other and they told me they couldn't take this.
So by this time we had written the a a book that was written in the fall of 1938. And this is May of 39 I'm talking about now. I went down to see my sponsor tell them our problem
and he said, well, we're not keeping the Catholic side. It says no, you're not keeping them out, but the church keeps them out the same thing. They can't come in.
No, it's not that. Tough luck. We don't need that kind of thing all this fall. They're all in the Oxford Group. It's that they can't handle. We don't need. We got the 12 steps in this book now, and we have the four absolutes of honesty and public security and love. Anyone should live by that. I don't care if he's a Catholic or is he a Hindu or what he might be or if he's nothing. He can do this,
you can't do it, I said. We got to do something. So that's when the first unity came in and a a we had the biggest damn riot really saw
on an accent. And I thought when I announced that we weren't coming down there anymore. We're starting our own group in Cleveland and then I made the mistake of telling him the address. So we're having a meeting. This is a very bad because next Thursday night in Cleveland, that whole bunch descended upon us
and they try to break up our meeting and one guy was going to whip me and this I must judge, was all done in sure Christian love.
But that's how that was a second indication of unity that we stuck together and that's how AI started. It started in a riot and it Rosen riots. People talk about unity and all that trap. If we had unity in a a it had one big group and six people doing the work and the rest of them getting drunk. A lot of people come into college here that have to move
the leaders. They have to do something. They can't sit in that back row and they can't sit on their hands.
Alcoholics have peculiar tendencies and personalities, and they have to be doing something. Alcoholics, their doers. They're not thinkers. Alcoholics don't think they most
No Alcoholics ever going to do anything until he feels a certain way. He hurts badly enough, he'll do something. If he don't, he's in all the historic King's horses. Not going to pull him into it. So this is the way we have to prepare ourselves for membership here. You and I belong to the greatest fellowship in existence.
I don't. I don't mind telling you that. I believe it too, and I'll tell you why
everybody can't be an alcoholic. I don't think that over 8 or 10% of the population can become alcoholic. I don't care how hard they try, they just don't have it.
And we are very fortunate people and we can get along with each other one minute and be killing each other the next day. She'll always love one another. In the last analysis, it's great. We are the craziest bunch of people in the world, but I'll tell you why.
If you're not much, you don't belong here.
And we are. And people wonder about these things, you know, That's why other people can't understand it. They just can't figure out. And we do things. I do things a day. Somebody say, why did you do that? I said, how do I know? We don't think about things. They never see an alcoholic sitting down there contemplating his navel. He's gonna do this,
but he's gonna do something. You can bet that
he'll he'll, he'll ask, he'll do something. But you know, we earned our right to be there. And unless the person earns his right to be here and realizes that he isn't going to appreciate this place really. And, and if we, if you stop and figure Saddam figure out
that the typical alcoholic that's been in business or in working and he retains the age of 40 years,
it has cost him a minimum, a minimum of 50,000 bucks to get here.
Believe me, that is some entrance fee. A lot of people join the Country Club and across them 1000 bucks and 1000 bucks a year and so much to play. Every time they go out, they think they're big stuff. They didn't pay the 50,000 bucks, but you and I pay 50,000 bucks to get here and money lost opportunities and to say nothing of the anguish and the heartache
and other things that happened, the tragedy that happened. So we are very much blessed that we had this opportunity, and I'll tell you why.
Alcoholism is probably the oldest malady that afflicts the human race.
You read about alcoholism
and in ancient history. You read about it in the Bible,
You read about it in mythology. There are a lot of good rummy stories in the Bible. This thing of booze has gone on a long time
and if you once you're reading the Bible, you'll find it's very interesting. You don't have to go any further than the first book of the Bible and you'll meet your first rummy
and meet Noah, the guy that had the boat.
There's a rummy.
You don't believe it, I'll tell you. You listen to this thing. There's a guy in the rummy. I'm a Chinaman.
The world has got itself in the shape about the way it is today. Go everything going down Hell Bentford disaster, you know,
and God couldn't get these people to get off this kick. He finally gave up and he decided to wipe the whole thing out, going to flood the whole thing and start all over again.
Well, he needed some seed to start with. So Noah was a good man and he trusted God and he loved him. So he went to know and he says no. My boy says I want you to do something for me. He says, anything large,
I want you to build a big boat. Again, the directions and dimensions of this boat and he says,
I want you to put out your finishes 2 of everything in there, every living creature, and I want you to put your family in that. So then she says why? Says well I'm going to flood this whole world and destroy everything in it. Now let's start all over again and you're going to be the seed. You're going to freeze the seed. Okay, that's all. No, I had a nose, but God wanted to do so. He goes to work, got his family out there cutting logs and working for years and years on their bloody boat.
And you can imagine what old Noah got from the neighbors.
They come by and say, what are you doing, Noah? I'm building a boat. You're building a boat out here in the middle of a desert. You don't know. It's playing with a short text.
Well, he kept on regardless of the criticism. He finally got the boat built
and sure enough, he got all those animals and everything else in it. I wonder why you put those two mosquitoes in there.
Well anyway, put everything in there and then climbing this wings came and it rained and it rained and it rained and it rained for 40 days and 40 nights and that boat starts to come up and everything else is going down.
A lot of those people who were laughing at noise tried to get in that boat when they saw that rain coming. They finally believe what Noah said, but he wouldn't open the door and they should have stay out there and take other semitones. So the whole world got flooded off, and for several months that boat floated around on that water.
And finally after a few months, the water started to recede and the boat came down and settled on Mount Ararat.
And the man came up. And what was the first thing our friend Noah did? He ran out there and planted a vineyard. He raised some grapes. He made some wine and got drunk. It's all in the Bible. I didn't make this up. It's in there.
No, I just mentioned that to point out that this alcoholism is nothing new. There's a lot of good rummy, but I could stand here for an hour because he's over the rummy story. He's in the Bible, and they're all good. Some of them are. You probably never heard that they were running. So I was like, you can associate with them when you're here and told properly. These ministers don't know how to tell these stories.
I hear some of these people talk about the Good Samaritan. They don't know he's a rummy. You ought to hear some of the stuff they hand out that story means and talk about that prodigal son. They give you some of the wildest stories of why this guy with the prodigal son. They never never occurred to these poor earthlings. The big diver rummies.
They were strictly grunts toys. Well, anyway,
we alcoholism for centuries has been with us is the only point I want to make.
And all down through these centuries, believe me, everything has been tried. I have a book at home is about this six and it was written way back in the early 1800s about the history of alcoholism and what had been done up to that time in order to to solve this problem of heavy drinking and alcoholism
and everything. You would be amazed at all the things that were tried
and don't you know something? Not a lot of words. And this is history.
So finally, about 40 years ago,
this program came along. We grew out of the Oxford Movement. We had a program presented to it that works up to this time. The alcoholic all down through these countries had two options. They could go crazy or die or both.
About 40 years ago this fellowship got together the way it is now and the alcoholic got a surge option. Still go crazy
he can die or he it well that's the sorry and you and I get well
we have the answer to it why people will not pay any attention to it because they're so stubborn and because they're so fearsome. They fear fear fear. Here's what kill us here is a motivating factor in Alcoholics rights. We are afraid to change our spots and change our whole direction.
We're afraid to accept something that has a connotation of spirituality to it.
Meeting. Couple of boys are here tonight. There was a meeting just a week or so ago,
these two boys got up and had the audacity in an A, a meeting to mention Jesus Christ. And did they get torn apart? You don't talk about God and Jesus and his baby. This is a a. Can you imagine that? And this is an old group. This is not a bunch of beginners that just come off as drugs or something.
Really.
Supposedly smart people?
I wonder what they think, where this program came from.
I wonder. I wonder if they ever read or ever study what these 12 steps say. It tells you how it works. Now, how does it work? Let me tell you how it works.
Let me read this
perfectly. We didn't read this before the meeting, so I'm going to read it now. You hear this, that all these meetings, most every meeting we attend, we hear this read. Let me read it to you. So this is how it works. So don't everybody tell anybody you don't know why this works or how it works for you is how it works. Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our past, thoroughly get that word?
Those who do not recover
are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program.
Did you get that completely right?
OK, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves.
I always hesitate to talk about honesty and connection with Alcoholics, but it's in the book.
There are such unfortunates. They are not at fault. They seem to have been born that way.
They they they are naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which demands rigorous honesty.
See, their chances are less than outreach. There are those two who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders that many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest. This is how it works. Don't forget it.
Our stories disclosed in a general way what we used to be like.
What happened and what we like now
here, now listen to this one. Here is the qualification for memberships in a A right here. Listen to this very carefully because if you're not ready to do this, you're not ready for this program.
It says if you have decided you want what we have
and are willing to go to any lengths to get it, you are now ready.
Take certain steps.
Roll that in over a while
if you want what we have, and I willing to go to any length. OK.
Some of these we bought. We thought we could find an easier, softer way, but we could not with all the earnestness of our command. We beg of you to be fearless and thorough from the very side. Some of us have tried to hold on to our old ideas and the result was nil until the electrical. Absolutely, absolutely no hanging on anything.
Let the whole thing go down the drain.
Remember that we deal with alcohol. Cunning, battling, powerful
without help. It is too much for us, but there is one who has all power.
That one is God, not the light bulb. That's God. Say, may you find Him now.
Now listen to this one.
Half measures avail is nothing. It doesn't say that half measures of illness, half results. If there's nothing about that, we are extremists and we can't do anything halfway. When we drank, when we worked, we worked hard. We play. We play hard. When we drink, we make a career out of it.
So half measures we don't know anything about. But people come into this fellowship do fear and one thing another. They try to go through half measures and they they miss the boat. They don't get what they should be getting out of this fellowship, not by a long shot. Some of them stay like they drive, but they don't have any fun. We're here to enjoy life
and here to search. Unless we get ourselves straighten around and we're not going to get much out of that, then it says here are the steps we took, which are suggested as a program of recovery. Alcoholics can screw up anything. They can screw up A2 car funeral and they screw this up. Let's just say this sends here reads this way to me.
Here are the steps we took which are suggested as a programmer. Recovery doesn't say these is a suggested step.
They didn't suggest them. You can take them or leave them and then suggested at the programmer recovery. You know what I mean? People screw this up and get to turn around ass back to
there we go.
Our program is divided into 4 phases. The first step is the first phase. That's the phase of admittance. Listen to that first step. There's two things in this first step and most people only hear one. Most people hear one part of that step. They hear the first part. It says we admitted we were powerless over alcohol. I don't hear this other thing at all
and our lives have become unmanageable.
OK, there are 200 well chosen words in these 12 step program.
An alcohol is mentioned once, once, once,
because there's an awful lot said in the rest of those success about getting our life manageable. And that's what we have to do if we want to recover and have a good life and be happy with it and be, be serviceable.
Yeah, any, anything back to the quit drinking. You can get quit drinking in jail and you get sick and you get somebody put a neutral on your neck, 'cause I mean, you can't swallow it because there's a lot of raising quit drinking. But that's not satisfactory.
Oh, booze is always gonna be here in this world either. There's no way that it's ever gonna be eliminated because people will have it. And it's an accepted thing socially and people we talk to. I thought the new people the other night, we're talking about the alcoholic, how he changes and the man, the person who's a real alcoholic, he starts out drinking
in social functions and he's bragging about his drinking,
bragged about it. Boy did I get a load on last night, you know. Oh, do I have a head today?
He brags about his drinking. So other than the time comes and he starts lying about it and then when he gets there he's in trouble. You start lying about it, hiding those jugs and trying to all this self justification that goes with it. We're in trouble then.
So people hear that we admitted we have powers over alcohol and you're hearing Yammer and about alcohol, alcohol, alcohol, alcohol. They keep, they keep drink conscious the rest of their life. What we want to do is get to drink consciousness out of it and get something else in our Life.
OK,
My life is unmanageable. If I my life is unmanageable, I can't manage it and I admit it. I'd better find myself a manager. That's as simple as I can see. It's very simple.
So there's the next step. We came to believe
a king to believe didn't say I believe this and I got here. I came to believe that a power greater than myself should restore me to sanity. The sanity but never bothered me too much. I find some of the bothering you a little bit touchy about it, but you start looking over your eyes and some of the things you pulled off of this is a handy for the same person. I'll take vanilla. But.
But here I came to Lee. Why did I come to believe that a power greater than myself could restore me to sanity? But how I did it. The men who preceded me came to visit me in that hospital in Akron and City Hospital. These Alcoholics,
they were all all older men than I am for us. That's why I'm the last one left of the original bunch. They just, I just outlived them, that's all. And they had been down that road in alcohol
and they've been through the ring of believe me. And they told me this power had helped them and would help me if I would but ask for it. And I wanted to believe em. That's how I came to believe em. I wanted to believe em. I wanted to get well. I was willing to do anything that they told me.
That's my willingness. This is what's necessary. All right. The second phase of our program is the 2nd through the 7th step. We have the first phase. First phase is admissions, second phase is submission.
2nd through seven. Third step says I made a decision to turn my will and my life over to the care of God.
I hear people come in and say you can take anything you want for God. You can take the group. You can take that piano. You can take that light bulb. Yeah. Oh, you hear that light bulb deal. I bet you've all heard everything. Here's a light bulb. Let me, let me read this. 12 steps of the light bulb.
No kidding,
we admitted we are pilots over alcohol. Their lives have become unmanageable. Came to believe that light bulbs greater than myself to restore me to sanity. I made a decision to turn my will in my life over the care of my light bulbs.
I made a searching a thorough tomorrow inventory myself. It matters in my light bulbs and myself into another human being. How do you like that?
My higher power has a name and his name is God and his son is Jesus,
so I make no bones about it. I didn't believe all this when I got here. I don't expect the person stomping in here too, but you better believe it if you want to get well and have a good life.
There's more to this fellowship than just saying dry. There's a lot of
airheads that come around here that can stay dry without doing anything.
I don't think a lot of them were ever alcoholic to start with and most of them don't have sense enough to be an alcoholic.
So being alcoholic, there's something on the ball
and something, you know, every alcoholic that drunk with every drunk. Not an alcoholic. I say there's a lot of drunks I I associate with a lot of my friends get well, you can't tell me too much about the type of drunk. And I tell you the fact a lot of those birds that I drank with were not Alcoholics and they could drink as much food as I could. And that's a big order I give you. But they weren't alcoholic. They could quit anytime that they get a different hobby.
I couldn't do it. I couldn't quit. I'm hooked
and I know that I've always probably will be. I let other people take the chances. I'm not gonna take chances myself. I don't. I don't have any need for booze. I don't have any desire for it. I don't have any love for it. I don't have any fear about it. It just isn't in my life serious. That's simple. I don't make a big deal out of it. So it says here. I made a decision to turn my will in my life over to the care of God.
That's quite a decision
for a guy that's been running away from God and try to hide someone for a long time and trying to deny him and trying to put some substitute in his place. That's quite a thing to do. And that takes desperation more than anything else. We have to feel pretty desperate, so we'll do that. But we feel that way. It's just right back to rotate. Qualification was if we want, if you want what we have and are willing to go to any length
you're not ready. OK, very simple. Yeah.
Then it says in the fourth step. Here's one that most people stumble all over the place on,
and it's very simple, but they don't understand or they're not taught properly what it is.
Four steps as I made a searching and fearless moral inventory of myself.
You know, people come to our house
from all over creation. They hear about this freak down in Castleberry, Florida, that has some way of taking people through the steps in two days,
and they've been fooling around with these steps for two years and they're not past one yet.
And so they wonder what this freaks up to.
So they call up and we talk to them and some of them wind up coming down to find out what's going on.
So I'm not curious. Some of them really mean business, but they come.
So when they come now, the girls are more more reliable to this than the men.
They take this fourth step
means that they have to recite every lousy thinking deal they've ever been into all their life. And these poor gals, they sit down for weeks on end and write all this crud all over a bunch of papers. And they come to me and when they get to step four, they hand me the sheep of papers, which I just take and I turn around, throat in the waist, back to other, whatever. Don't even look at it.
I'm not interested in all the funny things that they did
and all this crap. That's not what the 4th step holds for. If there's restitution to be made for some of the projects, it is in your life That is not has nothing to do with the four step. That comes later,
but that four step here says that we make we made a search of your fearless moral in there. What are my moral capacities? What have I got morally that are good? What's bad? What do I have to get rid of? What's what's ruling me in my moral setup?
There are characteristics that are tearing me apart. I have 20 questions I asked this person about these moral situations.
Things like South City self justification, lying and self condemnation and patience, dishonesty, hate, resentment and so on and on and on. There's plenty of them. These are the things we're looking for and these are the things that are eating us up. These are things we have to get rid of.
But how old is a trick here? It says that we're
my life's unmanageable. I can't manage, I can't do it. I'm, I'm at a loss and I'm not able to do it. Well,
step three, I made a decision to turn my will and life over to my new manager. What have I got that guy for? Let him take it.
So everything I have to do is ask Him to take these things away from me. I've been taught that any I can between God and myself, anything is possible.
Myself I can't do it, but with Him there's no limit. So I wind up with 10 or 12 of these thinking things in my character. So I have to get rid of. So what do I do as I administer God until myself and to another human being? What did I miss? All that treadmill. The exact nature of my wrongness. What a slob I was, what a liar I was, how resentful, how hateful and all this kind of business. What a liar I was, how dishonest I was. And always
how I got this and all that trap. These are the things so I have to admit to him and that to another human being.
Why another human being?
When we're dealing with my pot, with my, with my manager, he demands that I talk to somebody else, a human being. I express myself to a human being vocally. Thank you.
And it also says in the good books where two or three are gathered together in my name, there will I be also. Well, I'm going to have my manager do something for me. I got
no one choice that comes here because of the crime and Alcoholics ready for AAA. He is incapable of taking it on a tough job. He has to be easy.
It's just that simple. But people say, oh, it's all hard. And I've done an awful time with Swift Floors. Step 2. Step one. They've been fooling around with that since for five years,
living miserable when they can two days or one day even, they can get over the whole thing and forget it, go out and live like it feels like I came. Yeah,
some says I miss the God, myself and another human being. The exact nature of my lungs. All right, then. It says this knowing that I'm an extremist. It says we're entirely ready. Not kinda ready. About to get ready. I'm entirely ready. What for? What? To have God remove all these defects of character. He's gonna remove Mike Tandoori. How simple is it? Let George do it.
Where's I have him removed. All of them. Not on, not just part of them. I'm very frank to admit there's some defensive character. I like the King. They're fun, but that isn't what the program calls for. And those fun things are usually the things. That's just the things that destroy.
So if we want to get well, here's the way we do it. This is a prescription for living. So a lot of it say then I humbly asked him humbly asked him to remove my shortcomings. Hungry. I'd listen to Learn in a meeting one night of some, they're reading out of one of those
book, 12 steps, 12 positions or something, and somebody writing that book is trying to explain humbly. They got so far off the track, I didn't know what they're talking about. They got it all mixed up with humility and humbleness and falling in the dirt and everything else. That's not what we do. Humbly means you approach your maker in a humble, Worshipful manner.
That's what it means.
You recognize who he is and what your position to him is.
That's what that means entirely. People make some things out of these things. We wonder where they get this stuff. But that's the imagination of a rummy. Our imagination is something else. I mean running. They should all be short story writers.
After this 7th step, we go into the third phase and that's restitution.
It's that's the 8th and 9th step.
It says we made a list of all persons we had harmed
and I'll get this one and became willing to make amends of them all.
That's kind of hard because there's people that we have in solid people we've doubled dealt with and one thing another and we don't want to talk to those people and we don't want to get messed around with them. We were away from them. We don't want to get near fear
what the program calls for. We have to do it as we made a list of all person behind and became willing. We have to have a willingness to make amends to everyone. Obviously, we cannot make amends. Everyone we've harmed, that's impossible because some people have moved away. They're out of our orbit, they're dead or what have you. They're gone. The only thing we can do about that is I asked our manager to straighten it up for us and he'll do it.
Really, that's the only way to do it. But you got a manager for it. He does the things you can't do
sweaters.
Then it says I made direct amends wherever possible. Except
when to do so would injure them or others. This is a thing. A person should never go around doing this to men's business without the advice counsel of a real wise sponsor.
Because in our newest in this life, we get so excited about things, we start running off in four directions at once and it's a very easy manner to get other people involved in some things that we have no business involving them in.
So this is a stretch to be taken with a good sponsor and follow his advice. The person is living a good type of life in a A not just because some guys been around here for 20 years. I know some funny guys in 20 years are still bummed. The only difference is, are sober bums now. They were drunken bums under silver buns. They were bums anywhere when they're drunk. So they should know better.
You know, one shaking your head. You know, tell them, huh? Oh, good. I'm glad I'm not alone.
You don't know any.
Let's not get into personalities
now. We've gone through three phases of our program. We've gone through nine steps.
Now we get in the last phase, that phase of construction, in the last three steps, 1011 and 12. Listen to #1010 has nothing to do with it's an inventory step. It has nothing to do with step four at all, which also is an inventory step. Step 4 calls for a personal inventory. It says we made a searching and service moral inventory of ourselves and Step 4. The other one called the personal inventory
in step 10.
There's vast difference. This moral inventory has all those moral
degeneracies of eyes. It's a list, but that isn't what the 10th step is about at all.
The tent step is a personal checkup on our actions every day.
Today people talk about one day at a time, you know, mostly asking what they mean. But I don't really stay sober a day at a time.
Nuts During their only states over their time. They're in the wrong league.
Forget it. You're in here to live with it at a time. If you live a daytime, the way ought to be living. Never worry about the Friday or drinking the theater. I can tell you that from experience. Nobody was anywhere drunk than I was, and I have no problem with my boozing and having had never had. Why? Because I did what these birds told me to do about these this program. I don't say that if people showered me with gifts or showered me with gold,
anything. I had a lot of problems to solve. Like anyone else come in here
telling somebody tonight and I came here, I had to change my whole economic setup. I was out of the line of work that I had been accustomed to and good in and experienced and I couldn't go in it. They wouldn't let me in in the 1st place, but if they would like, I wouldn't want it anyway. I I just couldn't take it anymore. So I changed from being that kind of a executive to a salesman.
Complete change. From ordering people around, making everybody do my work to go out and working myself,
I became a good salesman.
I mean it. I say so myself. I did all right, everything I ever sold.
But you see, and Romney can do these things and what do we get into after we straighten up? Might be some entirely different. What we used to do, cut people in lines of work coming in a a ought to get out of them. They're not good for them.
The devil's handy work. You should get out of the trap, that kind of stuff. If you can't in good conscience do what you're doing in your job, get out of it and get something else. That's that's good advice. Believe me. You might not like to give up that buffer to get from us. You might have to work for half the money.
What are we here for? We're here to learn how to live and live the way human beings ought to live and be serviceable. That's what we're here for, and we're going through life here. We have so much time here. How much? Who knows? We're allowed so many hours, so many days, so many weeks, so many years,
and the day comes and we leave here. Where do we go? To me, there's only two places to go.
Other people think there's three or four. It is true to leave your kid. You don't either. Going to hell? Are you going to heaven? There ain't any excursions either way.
They're going to make it one way or the other. And how you're going to make it, how you serve your new manager while you're here. That's my message.
I heard my manager properly.
I know where I'm going now. You hear a lot of people go through. Some people say you're going to go to heaven when you die. Oh, I hope so. Hope so. Hell, I'm going.
I'm going. You bet. I hope I see you there.
No, I don't have any doubt about it.
I'm 79 years on a picture screen. There's what's nice does to me. I find out that I have done something. I have insulted somebody or done something I shouldn't do to them because we're human, we'll make mistakes. And I find out that I owe him an apology.
I have to go do that right away.
I can't afford to wait. That procrastination,
we'll never get it done. So the first thing, First things first, make that restitution. See, our life gets straightened up in the first part of this program. Now we're trying to live it that way so that we keep it clean. Any time I take a person to the steps, I get down to the 8th through the 7th step. I tell them they're clean. God has forgiven everything you've ever done.
Your heals nothing against you. See the one thing great about my manager? When he forgives, he forgets
you'll ever remind me of anymore. Now I'm human and I can get followed up again and loud stuff. But I'll know it when I do and I know what to do about it and I don't. Wait till next week to ask you forgiveness. Do it right now.
Now it's just to be a habit. And finally, you don't allow such so many times
you deal as many people as I do, you get a lot of chances to screw up. Believe me, a lot of people are rather isolated.
They don't have much trouble, a chance to get in trouble. You get out and run around like some of we do.
There's all kinds of things that you have to deal with and we can make mistakes like anybody else. Since there's nobody perfect, we're only reaching towards profession. We never reach it here and reaches someplace else on the other side but not here.
So we check on ourselves every day in September. Keep us, keep us clean.
11 step Listen to that one. Got a lot of words in it.
System is 11 steps. I thought through prayer and meditation to improve my conscious contact as my new manager.
God praying only for knowledge of His will for me in the power to carry it out. Break that down. Listen to this.
It says that we're seeking something, seeking up to prayer and meditation. Now, what is prayer and what is meditation? What's the difference?
Prayer to me is talking to my new manager. Meditation is listening to Him.
In all of my wisdom I have found out that the good Lord gave me two ears and one mouth and that suggests something to me.
So it's a good idea to do some listening, and you may be amazed what you hear.
If you would listen. There's something in there that says that there's none so blind as those who will not see. There's nothing, none, so deaf as those who will not hear.
And a lot of people will not hear and they will not see
Too bad.
You don't have to be that way. There's nothing to be afraid of in this program.
It's a program of courage. You have the greatest asset in the world. When you go to join this program and go through this, these steps. You got a manager take you through anything, anything people say to me. I've heard all these, all these stock alibis are getting drunk. All of them.
I've heard them say, oh, I lost my job and they just got so frustrated and I just went out and I drunk.
Hell, I got fired. How many times? I can't fail you. I lost jobs. Then they say, well, I got divorced. Who did I?
Well, I went in the service and you know how it is. We're going to service. Yeah, I know how it is, but I didn't get drunk in the service.
See. Well, I was supposed to get a promotion. That didn't happen.
Well, my wife went off for someone to die. Good ribbons.
Well, I need to get all this stuff all the time called baby talk. Baby talk. We can either learn how to grow up
and boy do we have the you and I have more characteristics and more power when we accept the power of God in our life. The thing you can do you and believe. I look back on my own life. I'm not. I'm not waving any flag. I look back on my own life and think of that shitty guy. 135 lbs back in 193839
back there in Cleveland, all by himself,
no books, no friends, no money, no nothing. No, that's nothing behind me out there trying to get rummies straightened up and things that I did over there. I can't believe it myself when I think about it. I looked back and it couldn't be me, but it was.
I wasn't doing that. I was propelled. I was guided to do these things. I've always said this. If I were to pick a guy to do the job I did in the early days of a A, I'd be the last guy I'd pick because I had no qualifications, nothing. No qualification or whatever. It was OK.
It's true. If you don't believe that, read that book, that doctor father and a good old timers. You'll find something about in that book. It'll tell you some of the stories. It's impossible. Some of the things that happened to some of those people. Goodness couldn't have happened, but they did. And we had this wonderful fellowship. People walk into this fellowship today. They think it's always been like this.
Don't kid yourself. Some of these people around 253035 years ago tell you something about this fellowship and it was like them I was talking about 44 years ago.
No, there's a lot of things been changed, but the principles haven't changed. There's a lot of people trying to change them. When they do, they screw up this program. A lot of people do. If you listen to them, you read a lot of trites. That isn't worth reading too. But
here we are,
thought through prayer and meditation, talking to my manager and listen to him to improve my conscious contact with him. What does that mean? I have to feel and believe and tell myself the idea all the time that he's right here, as close to me as Bill Daley here, and I can talk to him. I can get answers from him.
He's there and I know he's there. See how that isn't talking Spooks either? He's here. He's everywhere. You don't believe that? Remember when the men landed on the moon first? Guys that land on the moon, what they do, they pray. They were talking to him up there on the moon, all those thousands and thousands and thousands of miles away, and you're talking to him down here.
Well, he's accessible. I'd say he's right around here. Anything you want him, he's here.
You don't run away. We run away, right?
All right,
so he thought she's talking to him and listening to him to improve our conscious content. Now it tells us what we're praying for. You ask a good many people in a A what they pray for every day.
You're an idiot.
You're in this program you never play to say sober, you got sobriety. Thank you for it. Pray that he shows you what to do with your life to help somebody else.
Hey, this is what he's pray for. What is your will thought? Tell me what you want to send me. Give me the strength to do it
tells me in a good book you'll never put anything on me. You won't give me the sprinkler to follow through with anything that I have to do. If I ask him, he'll send me some of the funniest things, the oddest thing that happened to me in my life. I've gone just to talk about guidance and being senator or style to do something. I made an appointment to meet somebody.
11:30 I'm gonna meet you out at 19.
Nice. 11:30 I'm 100 and 99th and unusual someplace
and I had no plan to be there at all. I planned my day to be for I said I was gonna be, but he had other plans for me. When I looked back on some of those occasions,
it it it really stifled to me besides because every in every instance there was an awfully good reason why I was out of 100 and 99th instead of 9th. Something had to take place out there and was important that I were there.
This sounds a little bit savage, a lot of people a little bit dizzy, but jippy. I got into a lot of dippy stuff and in the years I've been in a A and I see an awful lot of dippier stuff right now.
All right, stop the prayer meditation improve my conscious contact with God praying only for knowledge of this will for me in the fire to carry out. What do you want me to do boss and give me the power to do it 12 steps. Does it say people are talking about 12 stepping 12 stepping Holy smokes. What does it, what does it mean that there's supposed to be?
When I hear people talk about slow stepping, if you know it's running after some drunk or sitting up with them or feeding them booze or flying on a suit or something, I don't know. Or going out seeing them and carrying them to a meeting and hauling them around and whatever.
12 step says, having had a spiritual experience, get this, here's some words. They miss Anthony as the result of these steps. Because we took these sets, the result was we had a spiritual experience. And what is that
virtual experience people say, Oh chain, you get your mind. Change, change your mind. Change your mind. What? What mind
change your thinking? They say what thinking an alcoholic is thinking he gets in trouble. We don't think. As I said before, we emote
so it says having had a spiritual experience as the result has taken me steps we had that spiritually experience is not here. It's 18 inches below down here.
This is where the change comes down in here, not here. That noodle. The heads always sick. Held it out in a pilot. Read that in my head. The whole head is thick, it says.
Has anybody ever had a sick head? We've had them, boy,
nice. You know, everything in this program came out, came from the Bible. Believe that came from the Sermon on the Mountain, the fucking James, that there's some references of the Old Testament too, getting the old Isaiah and some of these deals too. But it says here, we tried to carry this message, not the alcohol. They don't haul those birds around on your back and notice them and kiss them and all this kind of crap.
You, you're there to carry a message to him if you have a message to carry. If you don't have a message, take somebody with you that does. Then you'll learn how
that's as simple as I can tell.
So tried to carry this message to Alcoholics. Did you get that? It didn't say we're carrying them to everybody in the whole world.
We, our ministry is Alcoholics and we're the only thing that can help Alcoholics. Nobody else can do it. That's been proven down through the centuries. So that gives us a responsibility. And we're not supposed to,
as the Bible says, cast our pearls before flying. We're supposed to go and plant seeds where they can be, where they can be expected to grow.
And you can't go on carrying these monkeys around on your back. You're calm and you'll present your program soon the best way you can and try to enthuse them about it. And they get it. From that point on, the Holy Spirit takes on. He's going to do the rest of it.
You, we can't fix anybody we call a fixing, but we just introduce them to it. And that's going on. We have to leave it up to the manager and he'll, he'll fix them if they mean business. If they don't, if you write down the store as usual and it says we're going to practice these principles in all of our affairs. What principles? Principles of love and service.
I just wish people would just sit down and work and work and read and read and study and discuss those close steps. They start discussing them and then they start talking about a lot of crap that has nothing to do with this program.
They get all fouled up on a lot of traditions and a lot of anonymity and all that. Both don't mean anything. I'm not ashamed of people knowing I belong to this fellowship. I'm rather proud of it. I paid a value of price to get here, and I know some things a lot of those people don't know, and I feel some things they'll never feel. I've been blessed with a lot of things I wish they could be blessed with, but they're never going to have it.
You know? We're the most fortunate people in the world.
God does not pick out the cream of the clock. He picks out some real, real buzzers.
If you don't believe that kids read the life of the apostles, read apostles. Disciples. What a rough punch. Great word. There was only two of them, a whole bunch of. Right. Yeah. There were two of them that had any education at all. One of the tax collector. The other was a doctor.
We're a bunch of roughnecks
and boy, he, he used to get teed off on him once in a while too. Not sure he was. But these are the kind of people he thinks he picks them when they're really kicked around and they're ready for something. Because the person has never been hurt and has had everything. You have a hard time selling the idea of of making us right become manageable. What is he going to manage? Everything
we just started a rich young ruler that tells you that tells you very well in the Bible
become as easy because what must I do to be safe? We had everything. This guy, he said give all you have to the poor and follow me Lord. The guy couldn't do it. It's a lack. You ever heard of him?
Well, we got a guy sitting in this room tonight,
he said. A business
he finally found out when he met this manager his that this business don't belong to him, don't belong to him and he's only the steward of this business. And so he letting his manager run the business because he screwed it up so bad. And since he let the run the business, his money money's coming into me. Can't comment. He's sitting right in his room there.
I'm not going to make him stand up, but I think it's only annoying.
He doesn't think he's a smart.
He's got a good business. Anybody look at that guy this morning? That guy's got a good, really got it good. He's got it. He's must be a sharp guy. See the slob.
But God takes care of him because he's his man.
He's turned everything over and he depends on God to run it for him. And he does his part as little as possible, but it works.
And he'll probably tell you about that himself before the weekend's over. Well, that's the program. That's how it works. So somebody asks you, how does this work? Just tell them what I said tonight
and you got it made. How long have we been at this? I've only been talking an hour and a half. Wow, let's get into Part 2.
No, this, this is a wonderful situation. I'm sure glad that I have had the opportunity and have been blessed with the opportunity to be among people such as you for many years. I've been around here many more years than what a lot of people have been on earth here to sit in this room. Now that's true. And
I am very thankful for that. And whatever happens to me, if I'm not here in the morning,
I'm someplace better. I'll miss you, but I'm see you all again, I'm sure. But it's been a wonderful night for me. I am past 79 years old
and, you know, usually approaches the last 70 years, restoring 10. I beat that so far. And I've seen a lot of my old friends pass on to their rewards. And every year those ranks get thinner and thinner and thinner. But I know where most of those people wind up. And they wouldn't have had a Chinaman's chance because they've not got into this fellowship.
I've seen a number of those people passed away and passed away happy and contented
and with No Fear whatever. In fact, they're welcome. They welcome. Let's come. I know one fella and some of you people have met this bird. I remember one time he he actually died on a hospital table and he was back for some time and a bunch of them trading back into this world again. And
he says don't ever do that again. I go again. These are too good. Where he went, they brought him back. He got mad at the people.
That's old Hal Hill. You read a lot of his books.
Yeah, this is true. I mean, there's other experiences happen like that with every wonderful life here. It prepares us for what's coming. And you and I have a chance to serve unlike any other person has in this, in this community. We are. We have Alcoholics here to work with and people who want to get their lives straightened out. Every alcoholic has to get his life straightened out. A lot of them don't have to go to the extent in their drinking that I did or some of the other people did.
No, we're getting a lot of youngsters in here now, but they know that their life is wrong and they want to do something with it. It's up to us to know what this program is and know how to give it to them. I don't know how to help inspire them to accept it and, and, and apply it. And you and I have this privilege
now, what else, whether society do you find where you can find this kind of a ministry where you are an expert, you are an expert, you are an authority, you're an authority and alcoholism. I belong to a number of different fellowships and logic and clubs and organizations. I, I'm a joiner and I have always taken some active part in everything I ever joined
and I've enjoyed a lot of these outfits and these different lodges and different things that I belong to
and I still do and I attend because it keeps me bound well, because I, I need some balance. I need some other contact besides this the one thing all the time. Actually, you can't live on vanilla ice cream all the time. You have to have some nuts with it or something. But anyway,
I have belonged to these outfits that have been active in them,
but I I enjoyed them and I've gotten some benefits from them
and I hope I like to feel I've contributed something also, but I have never there's no outfit that I know of that can match what we have here in this fellowship.
So this is a life giving and a life sustaining fellowship. They take people who are dead and make them help them to live. And while like we have what a life an awful nice talking to you and I know I'll be talking to a lot of you
personally for the weekends over and and I'm happy that y'all came here and we were fortunately getting enough beds for all the people we have this time. Next time we'll have more beds. So bring a friend next time we'll give them the benefit of something that's real. This is real age. You're going to get here. Not a lot of this hogwash that you're here. And and they they talk about a lot of things that have nothing to do with changing your life at all. So we all know what I'm talking about.
Come here. You'll learn something about living, and that's what we're here for. Learn how to live with human beings as opposed to. Thank you very much.
Wasn't that beautiful? Praise the Lord for Clarence Snyder.
I have heard that he's not won any contest in which you have to describe something under 25 words or left though.
Any of you here? I Clarence didn't mention this, and I'll take the privilege of doing it. Who has not had anyone discuss these steps with you? Who might wish to do so? If you would declare us or myself or
follow in the meeting And there are some other here who are
we know
our equipped to discuss these
and have been trained by the Master
did see it after the meeting or over the weekend line be happy to discuss that with you. Clarence, did you want to announce about the 11th step meeting where it's run and so forth?
After the after the meetings here tonight and tomorrow night, there will be 11 step meetings. We will split up and have a couple of groups and we'll go into 11 steps and Bill and Harriet Bailey will handle those meetings
and they're very well equipped to do it tomorrow night, Saturday night, after the regular meeting tomorrow night we'll have a Wiener roast. Then after the Wiener roast, we'll go into the end of the 11th step meeting. As you all know, there are refreshments out here that you're welcome to
help yourself to. Nobody's gonna wait on it. You just go take them and don't don't get sick on them. But
do ever do all things in moderation.
One thing I do want to say this, Reverend Kirsten started say, but he got off. He must be becoming a runny himself, and his mind wanders sometimes too. But he's pretty stable. As a rule,
last year,
a bunch of people out here smoking, they suck their feet up on that wall of the building. Well, it costs me 65 bucks to have that still be repainted. So please, if you're going to lean on a building, lean with your behind and not your feet and go sit somewhere or sit in one of those tables and smoke all you want, but don't put your feet up on those white walls.
And it's just, it just doesn't look good.
But I don't want to borrow anybody out, but I just thought I'd bring out your attention. You don't realize, people don't realize if your shoes get near rubber heels and stuff, they, they bother. They really cut that stuff up. So that's so much for these meetings. Now you all have programs and you know what's coming off here in the morning. We have breakfast at 8:00, ten o'clock we have our meeting
and we have a couple of speakers there in the morning. Then we have lunch, then in the afternoon. This is an important time in the afternoon
Saturday. We have free time. This is when you can, like Steve mentioned, get with Steve. If you want some some further consultation and advice or help on these steps, talk to him and he'll because he is too much tied up, he'll find somebody to help you with it. There are people here who can help. And then we have choir.
And you folks been here before, you know that we have a choir and you don't have to be able to great singers, but just get there. You just get up there, look pretty, you can do all right,
But we had a good fire last time. You know, we had about 30 people that fire last time. No kidding. That's more than I've seen a lot of churches that John Simmons here. Sign Up John,
John, John, John and Selma have been with us from the first time we ever had retreats over camp water. And John got sick a couple years ago and he had a lung removed. So he wasn't able to come for a couple years and he's back with us now.
And he always took care of the choir and took care of the God, as I understand the meeting on Sunday morning and you're going to get to denote him and it's posted. They told me and get a claim because they're great people, both of them. And they they have a good spirit. So he's the one that will handle the handle the choir. So 2:00 they have a choir practice now in the evening. Tomorrow evening, we have have one Speaker Bill, are you here? Bill Willis?
Yeah, here he is. Reverend Bill Willis. He's a, he's a creature from up in Georgia.
I don't think he's held fire and damnation. He's awful close to it,
but he's a rummy.
And Mrs. Willis, you stand up a second. She's also around me.
Tomorrow morning, we're going to have Bob Radke and Annetta Wilson. Annette Wilson? Where's Bob? Annette Nelson. Yeah. Annette, get up.
And of course the daily get up till I know who you are. So they didn't be able to duck you
in 1/2 an hour. You have a meeting here. OK, take a break for half an hour and then come back and run Another Nazi. You want to say?
For those of you who haven't registered yet, please go into the registration area in the Administration building, right in front of the
before the check-in death. There's a great Steiner will be over there to help you with that. Let's close with a moment of prayer in place, if you'd stand.
Powerful.