A 11th step retreat in Camp Monroe, NY

A 11th step retreat in Camp Monroe, NY

▶️ Play 🗣️ Clarence S. ⏱️ 1h 18m 📅 15 Jul 1975
Thank you very much.
I begin to wonder who he was talking about.
First of all, I want to thank the committee for making it possible for me to be here, inviting me to take part in this program. This is the first program of this particular
11:33. I was privileged to speak on the 1st program, the Kampmann Rd. Retreat,
so I'll certainly get a size of doing these things.
I have enjoyed this retreat that far as you probably have. Let's make change at any moment.
I was thinking about some of the talks I heard up to this time, and there's some pretty difficult people to follow,
but everyone has his own story and his own experiences and his own way of putting them across.
I know in a A we hear a lot about miracles and I always like to
talk about the medical of AA.
You heard something about miracles just a few moments ago from our visitors, from the, you know, institution
is the people who are in such position and they set fire with a desire of betterment and do something about it and continue to do something about it in the face of seeming hopelessness. With this,
I think that every person here, every Taskah Horizon and every other person who belongs to an alcoholic that is associated with one in any quorum, I think perhaps he's been touched by miracle. I know that my interest to this fellowship is not being short of miraculous. I've often told this story,
by the way. I got to a A I came to a fellowship which was not in existence,
became a member of something that wasn't going either.
The mathematical cancers of my other being associated with this feature for practically, no,
I is not a uh, I have something like, uh, one of the speakers last night, our old friend Julian said I was not a chaotic picture. I was a chronic thinker. I was drunk all the time. This was normal operating procedure for me
and I noticed that get into all the guys about PTS and this because I never gave these things a shot.
I'll have the medicine to keep them away. Only these people have made it so tough on themselves is to get these kind of activities right ahead. Chronic
Alcoholics. And it was normal, as I said, for me to be drunk. I wound up above and I'm in a bottle. I whip myself out of position where I could even work. Julian was making a short trip to work last night. I go along with him and a lot of work business. But to go to the place, as far as I'm concerned, it wasn't by my choice at all.
I became absolutely unemployed.
I got and told a story about how I couldn't even get on WPA
and when it is nothing more unemployable. Relax. I also mentioned one time about the fact that my ex-wife had a big interest in my going to work naturally, and she happened to be the head of a news department in an employment Bureau and she couldn't get me a job.
So I would say that as far as I'm playing with this concern, that is about at the bottom of the barrel.
And my last crash died in a bit. He's out of my winding up similar city, my brother and his truck attentively. This is my last chance to be able to stay home and live a respectable life. This was predicated upon the idea to go to work for him
and I accepted the challenge. Not without some reluctance, however, but I accepted it. So
I get jumped on before I ever get to New York. We got to New York, He dumped me out on the waterfront and left me there. I can't tell you how long I stayed in New York, but I didn't deserve a long time. I did not lie around in the bowling. New York. I found something better
to my liking. I got myself the first gainful employment I had had in many a long day, and this gainful employment consisted of it. There were a lot of truck drivers used to drive their trucks into New York, and they parked their tractors there under this overpot down by the Canard steamship lines on that district,
and they would go to the hotel room someplace for the night or so they had to wait to get a return. Low class.
These fellows employed me as a watchman.
A truck driver gave me $0.50 a night to watch his tractor. With this $0.50 I was in business,
so I was paying seven cents a pound for my booze. I bought it in the wallpaper store
and with this $0.50 I couldn't drink that much food, it was impossible. So I save money.
I'd be staying with capital.
I didn't have to eat. I didn't pay anything for eating. Rather, I found out how to eat for free. I didn't have to buy any clothes. I had no taxes to pay. I had no old lady on my back. I had no troubles. I had no creditors. I had it made
and I was saving money.
That is my Commission,
but I when I landed in New York, I had tried to get in the good places of Assistant Long Line and Yonkers, and she picked me up and took me right back down at the waterfront and threw me out of her brother had told me previously.
Yeah, one time sometime later had the doctor over for her youngsters
and they got talking about drinking and she told the doctor about the experience she had with her drunken brother-in-law, her who used to be a nice guy but now is nothing but a drunken bump. He says. You know that, God, I had a brother-in-law like that, was a drunk too.
And he met a group of men who spent all their time trying to fix drums. And this fella hasn't had a drink for quite some time and gave a Doctor Who seems to be in cahoots for him, the doctors over in Akron, OH. And he says all of his time fixing drugs. And if your brother Maria should get back to Ohio, maybe he can get down there to Akron and meet this doctor. Maybe this doctor can fix him. I don't know. This is going on, of course,
sending to my business.
Why God only knows that we head to home. There was nothing there ahead for, but I had it for there and I got there one truck that took me to hear you. I remember that, and I hit the right in from there to Cleveland, try to get in the next, and the little woman met me at the door
and I didn't get in, of course, but she did tell me about this doctor and asked me if I'd like to go down and see him. So I had nothing to lose and I wanted to quit drinking for a long time before this but I was unable to.
So she got me a one way bus ticket to Akron, OH and put me on the bus and sent me. And that's How I Met my sponsor Doctor Bob. He put me in Action City Hospital eventually
and I covered up there and the last drink I had was February 11th, 19 and 38
and I discovered this day
now I had quite an experience there
that says you heard a few moments ago, used to be the Oxford Movement. They did things a lot differently in those days than they do now.
To be out of it May
they didn't suggest anything to me. They told me what I had to do and I'm so glad they did. Just giving this idea of giving drunks a choice as to what they want to do and take a choice between this and that and do this any way you want it. To me, this is a lot of hogwash. It'll never work
to get our drug at strike. You'll always pick the wrong one. He's always looking for an easy way out. There's a price to this and we must pay it.
Their country we have to do
we don't come in here and get hypnotized or do we get well just by rubbing elbows with a lot of other drunks who happen to be sober for a while? Don't work this way. There's a way of doing it. They taught me about this in Akron, OH.
OK, so much for that. I'm not going in anymore of that story I wanna discuss. Some people ask me to relate a couple other things they want to. Some of them heard and they wanted me to relate again. We sit around sometimes reminiscing about things and talking about some experiences and experiences with some of the characters we have met over the years. Believe me, I'm not talking about the good old days, because some of those days were not too good
that many years ago in a A vessels. But I'll tell you one thing, Sir, we used to meet some more interesting drunkster than we ever find today.
We met a bunch of monkeys who were really ready, and they knew that as well as everybody else did. And we really met some characters, and no inroads had been made yet as far as taking area muscle. The world was our oyster. We had plenty of people to play with and plenty of people to experiment with.
Way back about 1939, the Cleveland Plain Delay ran a series of articles about AA. We had started a movement up in Cleveland as AA and their own Grammys article, and we were debuted with responses. Everyone seen was writing us and wanting some help with somebody. A few drunks even wrote in.
This is unusual, but as usually these drug refunds couldn't even write anymore
and none of read newspapers. They use newspapers that make mess with and that's about the use they have for now
anyway. As time went on a lot of judges, social workers, police
ministers, priests, none of the class doctors and what have you. They got interested in this idea about these a a sober nuts. A lot of people who are starting to get off the streets if you could be laying in them and people naked them
and they found out that some of these budget servers did many people have covered up. So some of these social workers got busy and while I want to say the story about her, what she did to me,
this social worker would not be denied. She was a big gal and her name was Mooney.
She was big and she was Irish and she had some little Irish chum named Catherine that she was interested in
and she got on my back about Catherine. She insisted that Catherine was the only girl in the world that amount of anything or should amount to anything, and she's going to teach her that. I fixed classes for future. Stuck with it. Every time I turn around I get in trouble for moving about Catholic
pattern. I'll tell you something about her background. She came from very wealthy people
as we've been educated abroad. He had a good, wonderful opportunity. For one time in her life. She's quite a dao. Catherine broke up one of her uncle's homes when she was 15 years old. She was a swing of gals and at the time that I met Catherine, she was living with some Italian bootleggers in a colored neighborhood
and there was nothing, nothing but nothing the classic wouldn't do for a drink.
And Captain was quite a character. She spent a good deal of her life. In fact, I think she was spending her a life sentence on the installment plan and the woman's workhouse at oneself. How many times she'd been out there, God only knows, but she if she knew every nothing tiny of this place.
I think she took tried when she went out there. Anyway, Nooni thought the caption had possibilities and this is a real challenge. So poor Catherine and cool me I had to work with her
Catherine. I finally got a sober enough effort to a meeting and the women threw out.
It wouldn't have it
I might say. The Catherine was Irish and she had all these mouth that goes with the good Irishman.
She also was she used to keep sailors out of swear.
He was thirty. He was profane, she stumped
and she was really something.
So I figure this meeting and uh, we are meeting in a home at the time and the women there would have no product pattern. So I'll see when I mean almost me with it. But I knew you wouldn't let me cut loose for my so I had to do what I could with Captain. I took it on acting a few meetings. I took it to a few picnics at daytime too.
The trap in the coupon getting drunk. So I'm walking down just that Ave. one day down near 82nd in UKIP in Cleveland. Busy night throughout noon time. All the people are coming out of the business places going on. And here's passage somewhere down the street and she's staggered all over the place. Draster then on paper,
so I think I'm going to do a place got you take Catherine home. I don't want to land enough neither again, so take her home. So I'm getting along all right for about a block or so the person decides You want stuff to eat.
Well, Captain isn't isn't in any condition to eat, but she thinks so
that's that's a humor. So I think, all right, I'll run her in the street joint down here and get her a fat sandwich and get her home. But she won't have this good junk. Catherine has been raised better than that.
The captain wants a place with tablecloths. And here's the first big mistake I ever made with captors
outside a meeting there.
I take her into this nice restaurant. It's 79th and Euclid, which is a spaghetti restoration. And it had rugs of hapas on the floor, and they had waiters there with tuxedos. And I walked her in there at high noon and all these business people there, and there's a nice, quietly fine place. And she shouldn't she, she just don't belong. She thought so.
So Captain, as I say, she's dirty, she's loud, she's profane and she's stinks. And he sits down and a waiter comes over and then the trouble begins. And she says, given an order and he has something to say if you don't like what he said. So she told him something about his, his ancestry, his family background. You don't like this either.
So eventually he brought the food and what she ordered with spaghetti.
Spaghetti is I have a one of these spaceships, but the spaghetti comes and this waiter comes with it and he gets some more lip from passers. And I mean fact, he's making a lot of noises. He has everyone in the place disturbed. So everybody, everybody.
So Captain begins to eat his spaghetti. I mean, she tries to get in her hair.
Spaghetti.
Well, all this ruckus, the head waiter comes over and tells us you have to class down or shut the lead if you don't like this. She likes him less than the waiter. She told him a few things and he's got to leave and he changed his mind and came back and he shouldn't have done this.
Captain did nothing but pick up that plate of spaghetti. Spaghetti and spillover.
You let him have it, right?
Well, in about two minutes the wagon was there and Catherine and I are both in the wagon
and away we go.
Now try to explain a thing like this. I get in with all that dumb knuckleheads down there in the can and I try and tell them I don't belong here. No, I mean we know you don't belong. Nobody does
this goes on and on and on.
I'm not guilty. Well, nobody in jails guilty. Well, anyway, I find him. I'm screaming about her. Should get ahold of Ed Crawley, the probation office and he'll explain the whole thing. So finally, sometime later in the afternoon, one of these knuckleheads broke down and decided with call Crawley and Crawley. But this is hilarious. And he came down and Get Me Out, but he kept he kept capturing and let her out.
Well, sometime later, I guess Mooney arranged the captain, only spent her
can enough to get sobered up or something. Anyway, a few weeks later I'm walking down Euclid again, same corner.
I'll never forget this part. Unitarian Fix is on one side in the Jewish Temples, across the street in a big traffic light,
and Catherine is coming down the street again, and there she is. If I run right into it,
same condition. So I'm going to be a Boy Scout and get it off the street again, at least. So I thought Kathleen was going home. We don't eat this time,
so it's OK. We sat for home. We start crossing that traffic at the traffic light and Catherine gets an idea. She feels a call of nature.
Right in the middle of
thousands of people walking up and down here. And she squats.
I hold her hand.
Well, I was.
I was surprised in a few minutes to wagons
where it came from. I don't know if people thought they're interested. Pastors by stop and they looked and they made remarks and Catholics returned to complications.
The next thing you know, we're in the wagon again.
The way we go,
well, it's a family team. I get down there, I'm in the same trouble again. It's a different bunch on this time.
Like I said, that same routine that finally got trolley again and Charlie came down. He really thought this is great. I didn't,
so he got me out and they kept Catherine again.
Tell wizard down to this sky is this
seems funny now. It is funny. It wasn't funny then to me. It's probably too on which it probably was, but this is quite tragic at the time.
We can't keep it to this up anymore. We gotta do some. So we said throughout it was easy to fix Catherine. We arranged to give her a year, to give her a year as a habitual in the women's warehouse at Warrensville. And the way she went, what happened, Of course knew that I had something to do with this. And so I dare not go out of here. I got murdered,
so I waited.
Settlement Surveyor Katherine has coordinates the maintenance and words of Captain Wanderini.
So I was living in a lousy $10 a week boarding house at that time. We're talking about time. One of the ladies here knows the color that came to that boarding house and got us indoctrination A
and I was living in this joint. I had no money. I was making 20 bucks a week and paying ten of us to room and four. And the rest of it I had to take care of my clothes and ponder on women and a A. And so
I went to the dinosaur and did some shopping
per capita before I went out to the workhouse. I bought it from gum drops and some stink water and some powder and some cigarettes. I think I must have said at least 6065 cents on it, which is a big deal. And the last is a big spenders. And so I take this out to speak Captain Places about it 1520 miles out of town.
So I went out there and boy, oh boy, when Captain was called the CV, boy did she let loose. I heard things from captains that I never knew were ever, you know, he makes up words.
She had and I got them, but she finally ran out of gas and I gave her my little peace offering and she took it. She wanted to get out of there, so she wanted us out of there. If there's no passing, you're not going to go out of here in there for a year and you're going to stay here for a year. You're not going to get out. Make up your mind. This is it.
For once, we got to do something. Just got allowed to do this guy allowed to do a year hearing you're going to do it.
Well, eventually she resigned herself to it. I went out to see captain every week at all times. You said most times twice a week I go out here and Catherine, they put her in the hospital out there. Catherine actually, I think had everything from standard to Follow My Truth and ingrown toenails and athlete's foot yet at all. And it took them a long time to clean her up. They didn't have all these wonder drugs there, you know,
But eventually they got it cleaned up and passed into Zune, all right. And she was, I might say, the skinny. The match went out there. She was really emaciated. They tightened her up
and she come out of that a year later and Mooney got a job as a lifeguard. I'm one of the city beaches. The captain worked on that job all from along, so it's closed. Then she got her a job in one of the hotels as a room clerk to pick up the keys if people went out.
The captain was on that job and he started to take up her study of typing and shorthand. She's done this once before and so through better self brushed up on this and eventually Catherine got herself a job as a phenographer. Mooney didn't get this job, happened at this job. Mooney got the other people and eventually she got promoted to the secretary.
Catherine saved her money. Mooney had gotten in a nice place to stay when she came out off with some police people way out of another part of town. They knew nothing about Alcoholics or rummies or anything,
and Catherine took an interest in young people to work in her church. She was a captain and she went to work in a church
and she she's good at this stuff. She really was a little bit sick and she saved her money and Captain finally, eventually went into the real estate business and became wealthy woman,
now retired, living down in Florida.
Now when I think of capture and I know that there isn't a person in the world who, if they have the proper artist who wouldn't give them half a chance, can't make good on this program. Somebody comes around, gives me a lot of study on her. To hear from some of them. I think it's happened.
Then it gives me the curve to tell people what they can do and where they can go.
That's captain taught me to give them anything now.
Catherine never took up with AA, didn't feel that she wanted to after the reception she got, but she's still sober woman. She's as big as a house now. She's sober and I've had a successful life.
Patton learn the principles of how to live and supply them. But we, you and I here learn, you know, coming to a, a
anybody can get sober. It doesn't take any genius to become sober, but it takes something to stay that way.
It can sustain power. It takes doing something. I hear a lot of things in a meetings about how you can do this program or how you can choose this and choose that and all this kind of crap. But believe me, this is not just as far as I'm concerned. I think there's a technique to this. I think there's a way to do it
and if a person doesn't do it according to the way it prescribed, you may not get drunk but he's going to miss an awful lot.
The classes are most of them will get drunk.
I could speak with authority on this because I have seen a good deal of this the first two years and 1/2 that I was in this fellowship after we started in Cleveland. I must say I I've been in the Philippines. I only started there. I took record of people who came in and I had the opportunity to keep weapons of people. I knew them all all. I went through my hands to come in there. I saw that it was an activity,
so I got all the inquiries that came through the newspapers. Anything, any way off in New York or any place, they all came in the first. So I had a good time taking care and keeping records on people
for quite some time or just out of hand completely. So I can remember keeping records of several 100 people, and after two years and a half, 91% of them never had a drink. Remember that. Now if any group can tie that or come close to it within 10% of it, now I'll kiss your foot so I'll eat your hat like they said on TV.
Now why is there a difference? People ask you this, Why are we talking about this last night? A couple of exception. I'm talking why people get concerned. They should be concerned
for the very reason that people come here and give a drunk a choice of what he can do and tell him to make up his own program. This is suicide for a rummy. There's a program of cloud steps in a, A, and these have all been written in the past tense, which indicates that someone has used them and done them and it has been successful.
I don't care what fellowship, what club, what large, what organization or what church or whatever you might want to join
line yourself with. There are certain things required of it. If you want to join the nations, there are certain things you're supposed to attest to. You want to join the KFC? You'll find something else. You want to join the kids. You have to stand for something appalled. It doesn't stand for something. You're very at the father most anything.
So we have to stand for something, but we stand for an AA as this 12 step program. If we could have gotten by with four step, seven step, nine steps or 11 steps or what have you, we have gladly done it too. But it took 12. And why did it take 12? I'll tell you why
I don't have any. As you heard when they steps were written, I was in on the writing of these steps and I know the purpose of them and I know the origin of them, where they came from. These are nothing that we just dreamed of. There's a certain routine to these steps represent the old Oxford Movement used to talk about life changing, and it is a life changing process
as long as this world has been going on.
But thousands and thousands and thousands of years as well as history is recorded.
There has been Alcoholics and we've heard about them. They've been recorded in history. They've been recorded in the Bible. They've been recorded in ancient history. The first reference to anyone getting drunk in the Bible. You can look right in the first right in Genesis and find out what happened to old Noah on the arts. Read that, see what happened to him. He really went on a real buck. Yeah,
and there's plenty of other ones that this happened to. This is not yesterday. This is a long time ago.
You read about things in ancient history. You read of all bouncer history, the exports of Alcoholics. You also read about epic, which were put into effect to try and curb alcoholism, or overcome it, or overcome the alcoholic in one of the three. And nothing ever was successful until
the idea comes along that this is not just something that a person does because you just are no good so and so there's something wrong with an alcohol. It's a person that's obsessed with this thing of alcoholism
and there's no way of fixing him without his whole life changing. So it knocks with movement. The alcoholic was given the opportunity of having his life changed and to change a persons life there are certain things that have to be attacked. First of all, it has to be a need for a change. The person's all right, he's perfect, nothing wrong with him. What should he change for? Let's go on through the same way where we are.
Obviously, any rummy certainly needs a change. He sure does.
Our program has all the elements in it, which, if you will put them together and apply them, accept them, believe them, use them,
your life will be changed. Now we come to this fellowship. Why do we land here? I told you how I got here.
How come I got here? How come you got here?
Thousands and thousands of other people will never get here. And millions and millions of people, people who walked across the face of this earth before we were on it, live, existed and died in misery as Alcoholics
and trade, a lot of their friends and family with them in this district and misery they never had. This time you might have a cat. You and I have been exposed to this. You and I are blessed. This is only by the grace of God that we have this. It isn't because we deserve it. Is there any rummy out here that deserves what he gets here?
My heavens, the bestie. You see a fellow walk into a A? Just think about this for a minute. The guy walked in here, a gal.
They broke their annulus. They haven't got a home, they have no clothes, that their feet are on the ground, on their hinders, out of their britches. They have no place to go. They're dirty. They think there's, they're scared of death, hopeless, and they come in here.
What happened? You see them, the same person a few weeks later is unrecognized. He's all to get it different. We've got patches on his bricks or he's got a new pair. His bare feet are an underground anymore. He's got some shoes and masks. I used to have a brown and a black one because I haven't got shoes at night.
You get a maybe a coat that matches the pants either you get a little Jingle in the pocket. Get a job and most and the best of all, you've inherited a lot of friends that people here are pay pension to you and make a fuss over here. All the people before her made a big cut over you. All right, They want to get you out of the way.
They wanna avoid you. That's about the size that changes. It happens off quickly without now,
who deserves this and why do you get chosen and why do I get chosen? A lot of other people don't. This is something we should ask about. Where do we get the answer to it or not? I think that if we lose each one of us to be very, very thankful, no matter what our circumstances happen to be, we should be more thankful that we are chosen for his opportunities. Now that what we do with this opportunity, this is what's important
forgiveness task. Every person comes here, something happens to him, he's touched with something he is touched with. He never gets space over at all. Something has happened to him. He never forgets the experience of having been exposed to a a don't forget it. It'll even room his drinking for us. If nothing else, he's never the same because he knows there is a way out.
Now,
I have learned many ways ago in dealing with people coming to AA. As far as I personally am concerned, I know how the qualified person in my sight as far as a person is concerned, that I may be able to help. I don't know about some of you. Maybe you'll have to knock your brains out to what I did to learn this, but I know that there has to be certain things of time
when a person comes with this fellowship
if I'm going to have any kind of
success with him at all in helping him to begin a new way of life and stay with it.
Effective change First of all,
person must be an alcoholic and he must admit it. I didn't make this up. This has this all comes from the big books, remember Second thing that I want to know about a fellow is what do you want to do about it? A lot of alcohol and they'll admit they are they don't do anything about it and do OK because he wants to quit. OK. The big important thing now is I asked him the next question.
OK, you're an alcoholic and you want to quit. Here's here's what that separates them. I asked this fellow, what are you willing to do
to quit drinking forever? But are you willing to do to quit drinking forever? I understand. I didn't say anything about cooking drinking for an hour or 24 hours or a day or anything else. I said forever. And that's exactly what I mean. I want to know how interested to spell it. You hear a lot of funny answers to this, a lot of sometimes, but I want to spell it to tell me he's willing to do anything.
We quit drinking forever,
terrorizing the authority for that. Am I taking his inventory? What am I doing? I don't mind if I take his inventory. Whose wealth is going to take it?
I guess you're sorry that's not 5th chapter. That book of eyes, there's a sentence in there. It's so important. A lot of us overlook it or we don't hear it very well.
It stays in that 5th chapter. If you want what we have and if you're willing to go to any lengths together
now, you already take it instead
of your story coming forward. An alcoholic is a type of individual. People disagree with me on this.
I believe that wholeheartedly. As alcoholic is a type, everyone can't be an alcoholic. This is a privilege reserve for a chosen few, believe me. And I think you can take an after you can cataloging by characteristic. I'll tell you a few of his characteristics.
I've never seen an alcoholic yet who is not a high stung individual.
I've never seen one that didn't have a work of imagination.
I've never seen one that wasn't a an extremist. Never anything by halfway makers of the rummy. When he worked, he worked hard. He played, he plays hard when he makes a career of it.
He denied dealers. Be sure, be sure. And he's a very sensitive soul. He's always going around looking for someone to hurt his feelings
and then he's shot. He's a penis, he's a Pennsylvania. He's the biggest liar that ever wore shoes
and will steal anything, including a red hot stove. If it has to be done, you'll do it. When it comes to the way they ought to get that booze, if you have to do, you'll do it.
The economic conscious down will drink anything. I know there's a lot of people coming here, since I have, who have only drank themselves down to their second last yacht. I know this,
but nevertheless, if there ever got print but they lose it and they lose it go go buy that seven cents cup too keep jump. It isn't a matter you know, you don't think I dragged that stuff because I liked it. Most Rummy's I know don't even like to take the booze.
Really, I done a Dutchman. I enjoyed beer. I can't say that I particularly enjoyed whiskey because I couldn't afford good whiskey when you drink that garbage stuff that I drink. There was a guy that started drinking bootleg days and I really I couldn't afford to stop. I had too big a bullet
rotten whiskey, and most of it was rotten anyway. In those days, I drank rotten with you in the beginning, and even when he came back, the short time was back before I clicked. I still didn't buy liquor store whiskey. In fact, they wouldn't let me in the liquor store.
Half ancestry has been tried, I suppose, in the composite experience of the folks sitting in here. People have been in nut houses, they've been in jail, they've been in sanitary, they've been in hospitals, they flew off, they've been fluoros. They can swore and rip. Everything has happened. We've made pledges, we've done everything, we've made promises. We tried everything. We tried being gentlemen drinkers, lady drinkers. We've been trying to drink this on Tuesdays,
just on Saturdays, and then we tried this beer. We just tried something else and nothing ever worked. It just got worse.
No matter how excited a lot of our efforts for real success and we see the figure we're doing the right thing, your time, the best of our ability, we couldn't make it. I was not
OK.
Something happened to my life and this is how it's taken out and this is how people get the benefit of their age. This is a life changing program and here's how it does.
And I think the person's life,
there has to be certain things present that's also recorded. They have to be a reason for it. And then we have to face the things. We have to face the issue.
We have the speaker this morning talking about the hospital experiences and he got to be one of these institutionally minded space. As soon as he got drunk, he wanted to get a hospital and then she didn't want to leave that hospital.
See, he'll live the rest of the life in the hospital because she hadn't faced up the things and made a stand for something. This is has happened to a lot of it. We may not get in the hospital, but we get in that joke. When something gets touched, we get in that jug. An alcoholic is afraid of pain
and he never, never wants to hurt too much. And the only time we're in really real trouble is when we're sober and drinking and sober when we don't feel any pain. We're an exercise. So the alcohol contains the real roughly jumps in that doesn't there's no problem. It's like he's uncomfortable, he's not feeling anything. He sit comes in and he don't know it. He has no bills, he has nobody to bottom. He has nothing when he's unconscious.
But maybe we have to learn how to face life. So we this program brings us face to face with it. So our first step here's what our program is broken down into it in four phases.
Program The first phase of our program is admission. We admit that we are powerless over alcohol, that our lives have become unmanageable. If we go to Mr. 5
throughout the first day, second phase of our program runs from the 2nd through the 7th step. I choose the college these days of submissions. We are fabulous in now we have submissions.
These are the steps in which we submit our role in our life to the care of God,
Chris and Robbie's read
Second Step says we tend to believe that a power greater than ourselves should restore us to sanity. We heard a lot about sanity last night.
Two has that referred to that was talking about that second step all through his process that you're seeing last night Manatee
but right as any Roman to take umbrage about this vanity that suppressed. We were allowed to say I wasn't insane
brother. Let me get over about five years and think about it. You'll be glad somebody will tell you enough.
Absolutely. I'm glad that somebody told me I was nuts. Just let me out and let me off the hook.
Some of the things I did, boy, that I wasn't nuts. They should have shot me, that's for sure. OK,
we tend to believe that Pi is greater than ourselves historic society. Why did I come to believe this? I came to believe this because of the inspiration of these men who might not in that hospital in Akron City Hospital came and visited me.
They were all older men than I was
and they bare on this path and they told me the stories of the lives and what happened to them. They were still with someone just a few weeks from a few months, but they were sober and I wanted to be one of them
and they sold me a power to help them. So I wanted this power to help me. I wanted to believe it would help me. They told me it would and I wanted to believe it. The power of example is what helped me and I think it does a good memory.
The player and I all have responsibilities here. To be a little example of somebody coming in,
we made a decision. Can you imagine running, making a decision? Here's where we start separating the men from the board. I remember we have to do something in a they made a decision
to turn our will and our life over to the prayer of God. Now that's asking an awful lot of Iran is coming to AA fellas comes in here and he has lost all contacts with God.
Well or otherwise, and how we share the data in and how it's very, very peculiar notions about who we may be. I haven't discussed this with people. I probably suspect this thing about God with more people than a lot of ministers I know and I did some funniest reactions from people that the picture of God is and the kind of people we are, which I outlined a few moments ago by Ted Cruz. You were like a bunch of kids you remember had grown up and I have never seen anybody grow up in the Asia either
like a bunch of kids. And we're an emotional stunts and we get moved very easily and we live by emotion and we live by feelings. And yet some of these people coming in about God and what their construction of them is. It's a really funny pictures, real peculiar.
They're not to be locked at. This is very natural that we could be this way.
We have to get a conception now here we have to make a decision to turn our will and our life over the cold. If I fail that creeps the way out from blue Yonder here when we know little bit and probably scared of and there's a good result and probably frequency is probably going to be abused by we're going to turn our world on our life for this characteristics. Believe me,
the best little sentence in that first factor isn't holding good with it. We're not about to do this. We're not going to do it. This is where the men in the boiler start to separate and they hate. This is really spectacular stand. This is the first showing of space on a little bit of gut.
Ah, those are probably good. Past that and gets into the 4th step as we made a sticky and scalar more inventory ourselves
and fearless moral inventory. Want to find out what we have to work with?
It's pretty difficult sometimes to find it in a small fiber that we're working with something. Now, believe me,
this doesn't mean you have to get up and call out about all that dirty lot of things we've done all our lives. God knows most of us can't remember half the things we've done
that we have to find out what we have to work with. Testing and paradise
is not honest enough and it can't be straight enough to do it,
to use power. He needs cancer and he's a sponsor. He needs a counselor to help someone who's experienced in these things and these ways of life, someone who's got experience and that that benefit of it and can help him and he has confidence. It doesn't necessarily have to be another area to do it. Some other type of translator,
but we should help someone else when the first step suggested is someone helping them because it says in that case probably admitted to God correct size and to another human being.
So we go on record, we face the issue like there's a little girl there this morning, this pops. He faced things eventually that's recovered. Now
there's some hobbies where it is
for the extremist alcoholic, traumatic.
It says we were in highway and Hwy. to have God remove all these.
Let us say that we are getting ready, are going to be ready or we're gonna have to remove some of these defects. That says we were entirely ready to have God. We will not ask the God remove all these. Step 7 says we humbly have failed to humbly ask him to remove our customers.
We didn't make a deal within like we heard about last night.
They're gonna deal. See that? We just humbly ask them. OK, now we have submitted ourselves. We're submitted by our world and our life to the core of God. We've done something about it.
So that's the second phase
decline. The protocol says the restitution, no one can fire me lights without cleaning up their sibies from the old. We can't tell this stuff over with it. We can't do it. We have to make an effort
to make things right that people respond.
Obviously we don't know how we harm and we will never be able to find them.
We don't know,
but we felt where we had this attitude of willingness here,
so we need a look. So all fish and sweet times and became willing to make amends for them all
for some people I don't want I just didn't want to make amends to for one reason or another. And people are pretty resentful and people have grayed out
rather than at the program. I had to do this and I had a couple of real tough jobs of restitution that I had to perform and I did it. I can remember Jonathan precondition to the lifestyle
made direct demands whether possible. I think it is cooker and some of the old table superstore. I didn't really want this. It's all right,
goodnight. I tried and I did ask. Everyone said that's why. I don't understand.
I had a couple of real puppies.
Anyway, it is done. So we make direct demands wherever possible within to them or others. This step should be taken with the help of A1 sponsor too, because in our new enthusiasm when we come in here, we can really follow a lot of people.
Three months. We can write a better book in real life. We can run a better group. We can do everything better. We can do for three months sometimes.
That guy,
they need someone to take you through these passengers. He can really scream ahead and a lot of other people in the process. So he needs a steady head and a steady hand to help people with that restitution.
OK, we've gone through two favors, Agnes and ignition and repetition. I have to stay clean. Let's keep it clean. I don't keep it clean
and then after the state special country, we only season. I'm talking about this. Someone asked me to deny about these steps. I have something else I didn't talk about. I'm glad I asked about. I like to talk about this. It's our life,
the the grant to our admission, our submission, our restitution.
Something has happened to it. Listen very carefully now because I don't want to start a while like I did in a time by making this statement that people are listening while they're talking.
I always say that people have because their Lord gave us two years and one mouth, which suggests we relish and cause as much as we can. Now listen with both years because I don't want any misunderstanding that we are kind to do these things, especially when we're down. I'm not going to say that
after nine, forget it, we're done. The nine, If we have gone through these nine structures I have outlined here,
we never have to refer to them again, except when we're explaining to someone
or if we get drunk again and resign from the fraternity and we have to reenter. Then we have to begin new again.
Right now we've gone through these nine steps.
And
I don't see where
so we get through step 9 and something has happened. We're done with this, but we submit our owner like God, he has taken things away from us. He removed these things for us. Step back here it says about somebody asked him and step 7 to remove these shortcomings. A good book, comical does that. We ask you leaving, we shall receive.
So we have to assume that we're forgiven all this stuff. After it's all done, we're done.
From now on, we have New life. Chapter 9 Steps to the New Life.
Here's what we do. The last days of this is that of construction,
this powers of 10th, 11th and 12th steps. These are the steps to reconstruct the life will rebuild where we grow. These are the steps that keep us going, to keep us alive and keep it serviceable and keep it servicing and keep it worshiping.
Listen to what these kids say because these are the stuff we live by. People say when all these people give you a talk about, they want to do two or three steps to know that past the second step or another practice they're talking about, here are nine steps. If you want to belong to AA, this is the way it goes. Then something has happened. You're a different person, you feel differently, you actively walk differently. Everything is different. You're a new person.
I learned this thing about new person from attacks in Akron
and I was quite new probably 6 months old in A and it's all so damn orange. I spent a lot of time with me used to somehow other like me. I don't know why but I have scared of the styles. I was a great big gorilla. They always used to get me a corner after meeting and talk to me.
There have been
put in a nut house by his family, they had probated him and he was supposed to stay in his nut factory for the rest of his life. The Doc Smith, my sponsors are in Ottawa and put him in the group and go take photo the day he died and day of the bird work for character
and I don't know why the specific interest in me. Probably he just likes to pick up old dogs and cats and things and I look like whatever maybe, but I do that. It was made he liked me
and that this is where they're coming out here. So one night at a meeting after a meeting, you've got me in the corner. You said priority says I'm going to give you the answer to this whole ball out
because I'm going to give it a raster, because I'm going to give you something here and I want you to root it. I want you to memorize it. I don't want you ever forget it. But here's the answer to the whole bottle of life. So I can still see bills. And just like it was yesterday,
many years ago, we took out this old beat up bill, pulled their heads and was all clammed full of papers and pictures and other debris of different kinds He had in there No money, but all kinds of stuff. Your stuff in there. You unload this whole bunch of stuff and positive on this table on the library table and Steve Henry living room.
He finally comes a little paper that you want to find and you're looking for any
that was a Bible verse
Bible verse read this. It's a dissecting Corinthians of 5th chapter in 1730 and therefore, if any man being Christ, he is a new creature, old things are passed away. Behold, all things are become new.
Now think about that. That is an answer to our problems. You tell me what it is.
If change is taking place, the 39 being crisis, a new creature, any man from Grand Rd.
and admit and submit.
All things are passed away. Behold, often they become new. This is hurry, all right.
Delay on the last three steps. Listen to me. I got off the track here a little bit, but we got another hour and a half to go
as we continued. Now this is his first step in the construction space. We continue to take personal inventory and when we were on, we promptly admitted it. How is that a civil assistance
we are running? Possibly admitting he's wrong. Rummy never admits anything. You don't need to admit it's raining outside. It might involve something
here. We are proper admitting on the wrong This is not our nature. But it is now. Now that we've taken those nine steps, we can do this. We couldn't have done this before.
You don't believe this. The dawn of the court someday. I know none of you folks have ever done before the bio justice because you don't look like those kind of people. You have never been Pence. You've never been up in your situation, but you added the down and see what you're done in the courthouse because you're paying taxes to support this. Doesn't know what to do with your goal. Some days are down a little watching it
and you'll see we had a judge in her decline. He's probably mentioned a few. He mentioned a few things about it
because mommy will walk up very blurry eyes. Drugs. He's been out the night before, the night before. I haven't taken them a day or so to get him sober enough to get him up in front of his yard.
Is not out there to get a car out and run into police car, drive to a place that's winter police commodity, fights the police, everybody's cars upside down and glass everything all over the place. That's Connie.
Those types of being drunk, that you're drunk.
So
while you're drinking,
hello, thank you. Not very dreadful.
After a lot of going back and forth, he'll finally admit that he had a couple of beers.
I have never in my life seen anybody get in trouble for drinking. If only those guys had a couple of beers,
that's all. So you don't ever step of everything like that
anything but here we are. We can do it now and it can't step.
We admit promptly. We can continue to take place from inventory. This is time to do this possibly at night. The last thing by God, first week, think about that day. I do every night I think about what I've done,
something that think about that give me much encouragement, something then rather seen that person to bottom to come to me. And I think about how maybe I could have done better and perhaps I also made an apology. At least I can probably do better tomorrow. I'll try. But if we don't sit down and we don't lie there, it's nice to think about this day's activity.
I remember one thing about us people always looking for something big to happen, and Romney's always got a big vehicle in somewhere.
OK, well forget it.
There are very few big things ever happened to a rummy, believe me,
coming. Sometimes you can count them on the fingers of one hand.
You're darn, that's a pretty big event.
Maybe you'll get an education that's pretty good. That's that's a good event.
Well, then you get married. 1st 1269 There's a big event.
There's usually a pretty important at least
you might have a family that's important.
Have you had $1,000,000? I don't know anyone who did, but I know a lot of others. I never met one that did, but that would be a big event if they're good
in the dye at the baby's egg.
Exciting company new again. So how many big things happen through
every day? Every day, no matter what the situation, where you are, where you are
working in the shop or you're working in a star,
an office, whatever, every day there are hundreds of little things to contend with. There are things we have to deal with every day. The little things, Little things.
A new association of people. Our Western American culture,
it's the habits and the patterns we get into. In France, it's gonna be the difference. So it believes us every now that cannot grow.
We have very poor memories. We are expensive
other things and scaling excuses for us while we can justify anything. Our members are so bad that I can't even remember my middle room sometimes and somebody asks me.
We are not known, for we don't have this elephant yet of memory and God is a good thing,
so he should pick up every night on ourselves.
Not that things get away from it, because addicts can be set very easily. I know very. I know a lot about that.
This is kind of 11 Step 2 here, 11-11. Stop listening to this lemon. This is a very important step. This is the middle and I and I favor constructions
for introduces that to acquire it
and introduces that and it says the next step. We pray and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God occurring only for knowledge of the growth rest in the party payroll
down a little bit,
we start to care and medical
and what is notification?
Carl is talking to God and medication is listening to him. At the football.
We can top all the answers to God, but if we don't listen to get the answer, let's use the other monologue.
They stop to call me speaking through the talking and listening there's people doesn't tell me about sobriety or doesn't serve me as we're speaking to buy a new house or get a new car job. Is that a new life or get a new license or something like that. If we stop through parameters to improve our conscious compact supply,
unconscious context discussed so simple. We have to know and feel that he is here. He's right here, as close as anybody as a good book that's close to the hand that speaks. We had this conscious concept. We know, we know that God will be believing.
We don't believe that because we already accepted way back there before. So we're starting this conscious talking and listening to Him. This is a practice we must indulge in regularly, not to commit. This is one of the disciplines that we have to impose upon ourselves.
So what are we trying to do?
What are we praying for us
praying only for? Knives of God's Word for us and the power to carry it out. We want to know what He wants us to do. Whatever you want me to do, The good Book tells us you'll never require anything or that He won't do with His church to perform.
So we asked an incident of power to carry out his wishes. And I always live on a spirit room the rest of our lives. This is what for joining the Jews. This is what the meaning of a changed life is.
All right. I just say the 12th step. To hear people talk about 12th steps, and this is most ridiculous. Some of the things you hear about 12 seconds, you wonder what's talking about. People come to me and they say, why? No, you're supposed to go on. Call Steph Park. I knucklehead read this program. I will tell you when I go,
hey, well,
when the door is having had a sort of experience as a result of these steps, we tried because message to other Alcoholics
doesn't say that to come in here, sit down here in his roof and rub out looser a few days, a few weeks and rest out there and bring everybody into a house.
We have to have something to curl after that bird before we can do anything with us.
We have to have a message to carry in. I'll say this, if I have measles, I can give you measles. If I have chicken pox, I can give you, chicken pox, I don't have measles I can give you and I don't have chicken pox I can't give me.
That's why that I don't have an AOL message. I don't have something in here to share with you. And am I going to do this
for the cost That tells you when should you go out and do 12 step work to record having had a personal experience as a result of these steps. We try to pay the message, not the alcoholic try to carry the message
Alcoholics a practices principles in all of our faith
under the only two steps to answer concern ourselves. Once we have accepted this program very simple. The status is a simple program. Some people say very high. My friends, it is not high. It's only high that we make it this way.
If we come into this soursop qualified, ready and wanting to 3D do something and meaning it,
and we expect this program as it's outlined here. It's up later. It isn't hard.
If it was either, none of us could make it. Because you and I, everyone of us, has tried every dodge in the book to try to quit thinking sometime or other. We've been arrested, we've been fired, we've been rehired, we've been fired again. We've been kicked out of our homes and kicked back in. We have been displaced. We've been arrested. We've been everything that happened to us
and we made all kinds of motions to try to cook drinks in.
In other words, until we got a strange of our life.
PayPal to see around you. This is one of the great things about retreats.
I get it to remember books that are going to retreat.
I'm Fortnite person in that I have been around this fellowship a long time. I do have a lot of friends
and as we get invited
to Quranic pardon activities pretty well all over the country, this has happened to me and very fortunate and I get to see a lot of people can meet a lot of people.
I know they're and I know they're aspirations. I know their fears and I talked to her about it. I know what makes people customers and I know what makes people happy in this and I know
I'm happy people in there and all that has made them that way.
I know that their attitude and the way they feel and these changes come over them, it empower them to love.
This is a program of love and service.
You talk all the time
speaking pretty vague about it. And then they started. If we can't be vague about love, this is a program and a way of life that requires loving specific people,
not loving everybody per SE. They're loving specific people and devoting ourselves to their betterment, to their health.
The great thing,
age and a a some people say don't mean anything. That's a lot of Hogwarts means an awful lot.
Uses a logic. So I don't get any agents, the ones that hire the Internet,
That's what it means.
You just had opportunities of meeting people, sharing with them, loving them and being loved.
These that you have spent. You can go out and a new group of people that be around strong enough you find someone who touched your life.
You're fine. People like discuss.
You can't spell it start.
You need something to say. Wow, the guy takes credit for this matter. Isn't a matter of taking credit for anything.
I remember such a standing up there. See, we got another hour. I remember standing up there in Toronto
are we approached here we are cut get together. I think up in Toronto two weeks ago I left on over this cloud.
This is a midnight meeting, if you can imagine this.
There were seats for 2500 people in the town. There's about four or 500. And standing up around the hall this night at midnight to do this, you know,
and we had a meeting that lacks at 2:00 in the morning to your colleague, 10 Now,
I just thought over this card and I met, I saw people there read that many, many years ago,
72526 years ago.
Don't focus.
So enjoying this where I getting up there having a great pass.
I see those people. There are seven of them sitting in the first few rows right across from the air. It's been in there that long starting the first few roads. There's other people started around two had a lot of years too. That's how those people, when they came in originally as many years ago,
I know that I knew the situation then of the circumstances for the time.
I know that happened to him down to these years.
These things do something there.
This is one of the advantages of having years in a those people inspire me.
That inspiration cannot get out of seeing some Jugheads come in here bouncing in and out like a yo-yo.
I don't see the area. I it's not inspiring to me.
Somebody come on
savings inbox now like a yo-yo. But he continued to expand for something and revoked himself to something and his life is changed and he served solves her life. This is great.
It's been very nice talking to you. I hope that we all get together again. I hope you all take time next spring to visit our retreat down at Camp Monroe
to get a big kick out of that. It isn't as elaborate, asks for elastic, but it's wonderful
to be here next year. Again, thank you very much.