The Swedish Serenity group's spring convention in Stockholm, Sweden
Hi,
my
name
is
Gail
L,
and
I'm
an
alcoholic.
And
my
sobriety
dates
May
13th
of
1978.
And
I
have
a
home
group,
and
I've
got
a
sponsor.
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
once
again
for
the
wonderful
time
I'm
having
here
in
Stockholm.
And
for
all
the
people
that
are
in
service
to
me,
I
feel
like
the
queen
or
something.
I
don't
know.
And
every
now
and
then
there's
the
changing
of
the
guards,
you
know.
Somebody
comes
to...
walk
me
or
throw
me
on
the
metro
or
whatever.
But
we're
doing
it,
sometimes
one
hour
at
a
time,
but
we're
getting
there.
So
here
we
are
again,
and
I'm
starting
to
feel
very
comfortable.
I'm
starting
to
feel
like
this
might
be
my
home
group.
I've
showed
up
here
now
a
couple
times.
I'm
going
to
keep
coming
back.
Some
of
you
were
here
last
night.
Some
of
you
are
new
tonight.
So
there
may
be
some
repetition
for
those
of
you
who
were
here
last
night,
but
it
helps
to
carry
the
story
along.
So
bear
with
me
if
it's
some
of
the
slides
are
similar
to
last
night.
We're
going
to
talk
about
something
that
doesn't
get
brought
out
too
much
because
when
AA
was
being
born,
women,
you
know,
really
weren't
very
prominent.
You
know,
if
you
invented
something,
you
couldn't
get
a
patent,
and
women
kind
of
stayed
in
the
background.
So
we
want
to
bring
them
out
a
little
bit
tonight
so
we
can
study
the
history
of
women
in
AA.
Another
title
that
I
thought
of
using,
you've
heard
of
Dr.
Bob
and
the
Good
Old
Timers.
Well,
I
thought
I'd
call
this
talk
Dr.
Bob
and
the
Good
Old
Gals.
Dr.
Bob
called
women
frails.
So
I
thought
we
could
call
it
tales
of
the
frails.
And
a
lot
of
time
we
call
it
history.
Well,
we
could
call
it
her
story
or
her
story.
And
here
comes
Dr.
Bob
now,
trailing
behind
these
wonderful
nurses
here.
There
he
is
on
the
right.
As
a
handsome
young
doctor,
believe
me,
I've
studied
these
slides
a
lot,
and
sometimes
I
start
to
swoon
just
a
little
bit.
Back
to
Akron
a
little
bit,
want
to
just
take
you
back
to
the
start
of
this
thing,
which
you
know
started
in
the
mid-30s.
We
talked
last
night
about
Jim
Newton
and
how
he
helped
Russell
Bud
Firestone
get
sober
by
introducing
him
to
the
Oxford
group.
And
that's
how
God
prepared
the
soil
in
Akron
for
the
birth
of
AA.
You
can
just
see
how
God
went
before
with
this
Oxford
group.
And,
but
Jim
Newton
later
ended
up
in
Fort
Myers,
and
he
and
his
wife,
Ellie,
who
I'm
going
to
be
getting
a
picture
of,
but
I
don't
have
her
right
now.
Her
name's
Eleanor
Ford.
Because
they
didn't
have
conference-approved
literature,
she
had
written
a
beautiful
pamphlet
on
guidance
that
they
read.
And
both
of
them,
I
think
she
lived
almost
be
100,
and
they
practiced
MRA
up
until
the
end.
And
there's
a
new...
Foundation.
He
wrote
a
book
called
Uncommon
Friends
about
his
friends,
and
there's
a
new
foundation
that
just
started
for
both
of
them.
There's
Harvey
Firestone,
who
was
so
grateful
for
his
son's
recovery,
and
I
mentioned
last
night,
those
of
you
that
are
familiar
with
the
prodigal
son.
The
father
is
so
grateful
with
the
son's
recovery,
and
his
son
has
returned
home.
He's
no
longer
beating
the
wife.
He
doesn't
even
look
the
same
after
making
the
surrender
on
the
train
with
Sam's
shoemaker,
that
he
throws
a
party
in
the
newly
opened
Mayflower
Hotel,
inviting
Frank
Bukman,
who
was
the
founder
of
the
Oxford
Group.
And
by
the
way,
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
history
here
of
Lutherans,
so
you
might
want
to
know
this
was
a
Lutheran
minister.
And
you're
going
to
have
a
hard
time
believing
this,
but
this
guy
had
resentments.
And
while
he
was
in
a
church
in
Kazakh,
England,
he
had
a
spiritual
experience,
and
he
came
back,
and
he
started
the
movement
that
was
once
known
as
a
return
to
first
century
Christianity.
Today,
the
headquarters
is
in
Co-Switzerland,
and
they've
changed
their
name
to
initiatives
of
change.
But
they
actually
are
still
around,
doing
some
good
work,
by
the
way.
The
first,
that
we're
talking
about
women,
so
we
want
to
talk
about
Henrietta
Cyberling,
who's
on
the
left,
and
Anne
Smith,
who
first
got
involved
in
the
Oxford
group.
If
it
hadn't
been
for
them,
probably
Dr.
Bob
would
have
never
joined
the
Oxford
group.
These
women
manipulated
him
a
lot
and
kind
of
got
their
way
with
him,
and
he
ended
up
coming
into
the
Oxford
group.
This
is
Dr.
Bob,
and
behind
him...
was
Anne
Smith.
Now,
she
was
a
lady
in
waiting.
Dr.
Bob
courted
her
for
17
years.
You
might
say
he
was
a
little
slow.
We
don't
know
why
they
waited
so
long
to
marry,
but
it
was
a
very
long
courtship.
And
she
was
a
schoolteacher,
and
there
she
is
as
a
darling
young
girl.
Isn't
that
a
sweet
picture?
You
know,
some
people
don't
have
to
work
as
hard
as
as
alcoholics
to
get
sweet.
She
was
already
sweet.
And
you
can
see
that
there.
And
here's
another
picture
of
the
couple.
Um,
The
woman
on
the
right
is
Delphine
Weber.
I
mentioned
last
night
that
there
was
a
woman
who
called
Henrietta
Cyberling
and
spoke
to
her
because
Ann
and
Bob
weren't
sharing
at
the
Oxford
Group
meetings.
Dr.
Bob
had
been
in
the
Oxford
Group
for
two
and
a
half
years.
For
those
of
you
that
weren't
here
last
night,
he
had
been
reading
the
Bible.
Oxford
Group
had
a
lot
of
books.
They
read
a
lot
of
books.
And
Dr.
Bob
was
quite
a
reader,
and
he
read
a
lot
of
books.
And
he
went
back
to
church,
something
he
swore
he
would
never
do.
He
wanted
to
get
sober
so
bad
that
he
would
do
everything
that
they
told
him
to
do,
but
he
could
not
get
sober.
In
fact,
he
told
Henrietta
once,
you
know,
maybe
I'm
just
a
want-a-
wannabe.
You
know
how
hard
it
is
when
we
can't
get
sober
and
we
keep
failing
and
we
keep
failing.
So
it
was
Delphine
who
tipped
Henrietta
off.
Henrietta
went
into
her
quiet
time.
For
those
of
you
who
may
not
have
heard
of
that
or
morning
guidance,
it
probably
has
a
lot
to
do
with
why
we
have
an
11th
step
in
our
program
today.
They
used
to
consider
the
morning
quiet
time
maybe
more
important
in
meetings.
And
what
that
consisted
of
was
getting
up
in
the
morning
and
opening
your
Bible
or
something
that
you
were
reading
that
was
inspirational.
And
after
you
were
finished,
you
would
stop
and
you
would
get
out
a
pencil
and
a
paper
and
you
would
listen
and
you
would
put
down
what
you
thought
God
was
saying
to
you.
The
next
thing
you
did
was
something
called
checking.
You
would
call
someone
and
run
it
by
the
four
absolutes
to
see
if
it
passed
that
test
or
if
it
was
coming
from
your
ego.
Now,
you
might
find
this
surprising,
but
the
alcoholics
didn't
like
checking
too
much.
Okay.
But
I
will
tell
you
this,
that
because
of
the
guidance,
I
believe
that's
how
the
program
got
formed,
that
God
was
able
to
speak
to
people,
that
it's
such
a
miraculous
program.
We
talked
about
all
the
slender
threads
and
coincidences
and
serendipity
that's
in
the
program.
I
think
that
comes
because
they
were
actually
listening,
trying
to
do
God's
will.
So
she
asked,
what
are
we
going
to
do
about
Dr.
Bob,
and
you
know
that
it
was
Henrietta
who,
through
her
guidance...
Got
a
hold
of
these
two
people,
T.
Henry
and
Clarice
Williams,
and
they
held
the
meeting
on
Monday
that
was
a
set-up
meeting,
and
she
said,
come
prepared
to
mean
business.
There'll
be
no
pussy
footing
around.
And
that's
where
we
get
that
word
leader
for
leading
a
meeting.
And
Wednesday,
they
had
that
meeting,
and
we
know
that
it
was
successful
intervention.
that
Dr.
Bob
thanked
them,
and
at
the
risk
of
his
profession,
he
said
to
them
that
he
was
a
secret
drinker
and
could
not
stop.
And
that
was
the
beginning
of
Bob
and
Anne
sharing,
and
they
got
down
on
their
knees,
and
they
said
a
prayer
for
him.
And
then
I
mentioned
to
you
that
they
would
continue
to
meet
in
that
home,
but
what
I
forgot
to
tell
you
is
that
group
number
one,
the
alcoholic
squad
that
would
start
there,
would
move
out
after
the
big
book
is
published.
The
big
book
would
be
published
in
April
of
1939.
We
just
celebrated
70
years.
In
May,
Cleveland
will
break
away.
And
the
gentleman
will
start
it,
will
be
Clarence
Snyder,
and
he'll
be
the
first
one
to
call
it
AA.
Okay.
Now,
he
liked
to
be
considered
the
founder
of
AA
because
he
was
the
first
one
to
take
the
name
from
the
book.
There's
a
lot
of
controversy
around
old
Clarence.
Yeah,
really.
But
I
want
you
to
kind
of
know
that
the
prayer
that
was
said
here
on
Wednesday
at
8
o'clock
that
that
meeting
is
still
meeting.
Because
that
meeting
moved
out
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
moved
into
Dr.
Bob's
home.
And
then
by
January
of
1940,
it
became
King's
School.
It's
in
your
big
book.
And
that
is
the
mother
group,
and
all
groups
came
from
that
group.
So
you
might
want
to
consider
the
prayer
that
was
said
that
all
groups
can
trace
their
group
back
to
that
prayer.
Now,
that's
the
living
room
where
they
met,
and
I
told
you
that
Dr.
Bob
got
the
surrenders.
Bill
couldn't
sober
anybody
up,
but
Dr.
Bob
was
the
prince
of
12-stepers.
Now...
Henrietta,
after
that
intervention,
began
to
pray
for
Dr.
Bob
every
morning.
And
in
her
guidance,
she
said,
this
is
what
she
says
to
God.
But
I
told
Bob
that
I
was
sure
if
he
lived
this
way
of
life,
he
could
quit
drinking.
Now,
I
need
your
help,
God.
This
is
what
God
says
to
Henrietta.
Bob
must
not
touch
one
drop
of
alcohol.
So
she
calls
Bob
up,
and
she
talked
to
Anne
first,
and
she
goes,
Anne,
Anne,
I
got
guidance
for
Bob.
I
got
guidance
for
Bob.
Oh,
Bob
gets
in
his
car
and
he
races
down
to
the
gate
lodge.
It
wasn't
too
far.
Can
you
imagine
his
disappointment
when
she
said
to
him,
don't
touch.
He
really
was
disappointed.
He
kind
of
thought
maybe
a
mountain
would
move
or
something.
I
don't
know.
But
she
continued
to
pray,
and
it's
through
her
prayer
that
those
two
men
got
together.
It's
through
her
prayer
that
when
Bill
comes...
A
proper
lady,
a
lady
who
was
very
raised
in
high
society
and
a
cyberling.
That
was
like
our
royalty.
And
she's
going
to
get
a
call
from
this
bum,
a
total
stranger
that
says,
I'm
a
rum
hound
from
New
York.
How
many
of
us
would
say,
yeah,
come
on
over?
But
she
thinks
mana
from
heaven.
She
knows
that's
the
answer
to
her
prayer.
I
mean,
such
faith.
She
had
tremendous
faith
in
God
and
his
guidance.
Okay.
So
behind
Bill,
we
have
Lois.
How
many
of
you
have
seen
the
play?
Have
anybody
seen
the
play
that
was
off
Broadway
called
Bob
and
Bill
where
the
story
actually
gets
acted
out
in
drama?
You've
seen
it.
You
can
feel
what
these
women
went
through
from
that
play.
It's
different
than
reading
it.
I
remember
seeing
it
a
couple
times,
and
I
just
wanted
those
women
to
leave
those
guys.
You
know,
why
are
you
taking
so
much
from
these
birds?
And
she
certainly
did.
Okay.
Some
of
you
might
know
that
she
tried
to
get
Bill
to
sober
up
by
taking
him
out
into
these
motorcycle
rides
where
they
went
around
the
country.
And
a
lot
of
people
think
that,
you
know,
they
had
that
Harley
with
a
sidecar.
And
they
thought
Bill
drove
it.
Lois
drove
it.
Bill
was
in
the
sidecar.
You
know,
I
don't
think
if
it
was
for
Lois
and
Ann,
those
guys
would
have
made
it.
I
really
don't
think
they
would
have
ever
gotten
to
the
point
where
God
could
have
helped
sober
him
up.
I
want
to
read
to
you.
Well,
I'm
going
to
take
this
so
I
can
read
because
I
can't
read
it
from
this
far.
This
is
out
of
the
family
Bible
of
Bill's
Family
Bible.
And
those
of
you
that
have
made
pledges
to
get
sober
to
your
loved
ones
might
relate
to
this
because
I'll
read
the
dates.
To
my
beloved
wife
that
has
endured
so
much,
let
this
stand
as
evidence
of
my
pledge
to
you
that
I
have
finished
with
drink
forever,
Bill,
October
20th,
1928.
Thanksgiving
Day,
1928,
my
strength
is
renewed
a
thousandfold
in
my
love
for
you.
One
more,
to
tell
you
once
more
that
I
am
finished
with
it.
I
love
you,
January
12,
1929.
Finally,
and
for
a
lifetime,
thank
God
for
your
love,
September
3rd,
1930.
I've
seen
many
an
alcoholic
shed
a
tear
when
they
read
that.
because
I
think
many
of
us
can
relate
to
those
broken
promises.
We
meant
well,
didn't
we?
So
when
Bill
gets
sober,
he's
in
Towns
Hospital,
and
he's
had
this
spiritual
experience,
and
he
sees
how
his
experience
can
benefit
others.
And
the
next
thing
Bill
wants
to
do
is
save
the
world.
He's
going
to
become
a
missionary,
and
he
begins
running
around
Towns
Hospital
and
Oxford
Group,
looking
for
a
drunk,
because
he's
going
to
pass
this
on.
And
what
does
he
do?
He
brings
them
home
to
Lois.
She's
the
one
working.
They
fill
that
house
for
the
next
six
months
is
full
of
drunks.
Lois
is
cooking.
Lois
is
working.
None
of
the
drunks
are
paying.
They
didn't
charge
them
anything.
And
Bill's
being
a
missionary.
So
you
can
imagine
what
that
was
like.
But
when
Bill
gets
depressed
because
he
couldn't
sober
up
anybody,
in
fact,
you
know,
in
the
day
that
we're
talking
about
back
in
the
30s
and
the
40s,
a
woman's
place
was
in
the
home.
She
was
in
charge
of
the
home.
And
Lois
gave
permission
for
all
those
drunks
to
come
into
her
home.
One
of
them,
I
mean,
there
was
a
lot
of
stories.
I
think
one
was
running
around
naked
one
time,
and
another
time
they
were
out
of
town,
and
this
guy
sold
all
their
clothes,
and
they
came
home,
and
he
had
gassed
himself
in
the
house.
Now,
most
women
wouldn't
put
up
with
that,
but
Lois
stood
by
her
husband.
After
this,
Lois
is
going
to
say
something
to
Bill,
because
he's
going
to
get
kind
of
depressed.
People
are
killing
themselves.
Nobody's
getting
sober.
He's
working
and
trying
to
get
him
sober,
and,
you
know,
he's
sitting
in
a
chair,
kind
of
got
the
blues.
And
Lois
said,
but
you're
sober,
Bill.
It
was
Lois
that
told
Bill
that.
Thank
God.
Because
he's
going
to
need
that.
He's
going
to
come
to
Akron
by
train,
and
he's
going
to
take
over
this
National
Rubber
machinery
shop.
That's
what's
left
of
it.
And
he's
going
to
find
himself
in
the
Mayflower
lobby.
He's
going
to
hear
the
tinkling
of
the
glasses.
And
because
of
what
Lois
said
to
him,
he's
going
to
go
to
that
directory.
And
instead
of
going
into
the
bar,
he's
going
to
try
to
find
another
alcoholic.
He's
going
to
pick
Reverend
Tunx's
name.
That's
Reverend
Tunx's
home.
The
call
is
going
to
come
in
to
the
left
of
the
door.
I've
been
in
the
home.
There's
a
little
kind
of
phone
right
on
the
inside.
It's
a
rainy
Mother's
Day
weekend
when
he
gets
the
call.
He's
going
to
give
ten
names
to
Bill.
Bill's
going
to
call
all
those
people.
Nobody
is
willing
to
help
Bill
and
tell
somebody
finally
gives
him
Henrietta's
number.
And
we
know
that
Henrietta
has
been
praying
for
him.
Now,
last
night
I
mentioned
that
he
walks
away
when
the
voice
says
to
him,
you
better
call
that
lady.
He
doesn't
want
to
call
her
because
look
where
he
thinks
she's
living.
That's
the
house
behind
the
gate
lodge.
You
have
your
palaces
here
and
your
kingdom,
and
this
was
the
Cyberling
estate.
And
right
at
the
gate
there
is
the
little
gate
lodge,
very
tiny
little
house.
Kind
of
a
humble
little
place
for
a
birth
of
A.A.
I
think
God
might
have
had
something
to
do
with
that.
She's
separated
from
her
husband,
and
she's
living
in
this
house,
and
he
doesn't
know
that.
So
thank
God
he
did
call
her.
And
rather
than
say,
I'm
not
talking
to
strangers,
click,
I'm
a
cyberling.
She
thinks,
Mana
from
heaven,
you
come
over
here
right
now,
because
she'd
been
praying
for
Dr.
Bob
every
day.
And
Bill
does
come
over.
You
know,
Bob
doesn't
make
it.
And
I
think
you
mentioned
about
Dr.
Bob,
and
I
think
there
was
something
that
you
compared
to,
because
Bill
doesn't
want
to
talk
to
Bob.
He
wants
to
give
him
15
minutes.
You
know
that
they
settle
back
in
the
library,
which
is
that
little
gable
there,
and
they
go
late
into
the
night,
and
Bill
is
not
going
to
leave
Akron.
He's
the
Henrietta
once
again
is...
Oh,
by
the
way,
since
we're
talking
about
women,
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
God
chose
the
day,
Mother's
Day,
to
bring
these
two
men
together.
What
a
greater
gift
could
he
give
us
than
on
Mother's
Day
to
have
the
spark
struck
at
the
gate
lodge
that
would
eventually
become
A.A.
One
drunk,
talking
to
another
drunk,
to
stay
sober.
Henrietta
will
then
put
Bill
up.
Now,
I
don't
know
how
this
happened.
This
is
our
Portage
Country
Club,
okay?
This
is
the
finest
country
club
in
Akron.
I've
only
been
there
one
time
for
a
Sweet
16
party.
How
does
Bill
end
up
with
$10
to
his
name
at
the
lobby
of
the
Mayflower
and
the
next
day
end
up
at
the
Portage
Country
Club?
This
is
Bill,
right?
Okay.
You
know,
one
minute
he's
down
and
out,
the
next
minute
he's
in
Rockefeller's
office.
Now
he's
at
the
Mayflower,
his
whole
deal
falls
through.
He
doesn't
have
a
dime
to
his
name,
and
now
he
ends
up
to
Portage
Country
Club.
I
put
him
on
the
golf
course
because
I
think
he
liked
to
golf
quite
a
bit.
He'll
be
there
two
weeks,
and
then
Anne
Smith
will
open
the
Smith
home.
Again,
once
again,
remember
that
it
was
women's
domain
in
the
home.
She
wants
her
husband
to
get
sober,
so
they're
going
to
invite
Bill
into
the
home.
Here's
another
picture
of
Henrietta.
I've
been
able
to
go
to
the
estate
and
they've
given
me
some
pictures
that
most
people,
they're
not
in
print,
a
lot
of
these.
Here
she
is,
she
had
her
baby
John
in
the
tower.
He
later
became
a
congressman.
It's
a
beautiful
woman.
A
little
society
clip
there,
a
little
thing
on
the
gardens.
Henrietta
was
kind
of
a
tough
lady.
I
think
she
actually
was
the
first
terrorist.
When
her
husband
was
messing
around,
she
scared
the
Cyberling
family
half
to
death.
I've
read
a
couple
letters
where
they
were
so
scared
that
she
was
going
to
take
the
children
and
go
back
to
Texas.
And
they
don't
know
what
to
do.
They
felt
that
it
was
this
dark
cloud
hanging
over
the
castle
there,
you
know.
And
I
thought,
God,
Henrietta,
she
was
something
else.
She
wasn't
one
to
keep
her
mouth
shut.
So
I
want
you
to
hear
something
she
said.
when
we
were
trying
to
tone
down
the
God
thing
a
little
bit.
There's
a
little
controversy
about
talking
about
too
much
about
God.
Listen
to
what
she
had
to
say.
Oh,
come
on,
Henrietta.
Let
me
get
her
back.
She's
a
little
shy
today.
Here
we
go.
I
have
to
use
the
mouse
to
do
it.
All
right.
We
are
not
out
to
please
the
alcoholic.
They've
been
pleasing
themselves
all
these
years.
We
are
out
to
please
God.
And
if
you
don't,
talk
about
what
God
does
and
your
faith
and
your
guidance.
You
might
as
well
be
the
rotary
glove
or
something
because
that's
your
only
source
of
power.
Okay.
So
you
can
see
that
when
she
later
moves
to
New
York,
by
the
way,
when
we
separate
from
the
Oxford
group,
Henrietta
comes
with
us.
One
of
the
things
I
want
you
to
know
about
the
women
is
that
they
were
part
of
AA.
The
wives
were
part
of
AA.
Henrietta
wasn't
an
alcoholic,
but
in
the
very
early
days,
she
was
a
part
of
AA
too.
There
wasn't
a
separation
at
all.
In
fact,
Dr.
Bob
felt
that
families
had
been
separated
too
long.
He
wanted
them
all
together.
Here
she's
returned
to
the
Gate
Lodge
after
moving
to
New
York.
When
she
moves
to
New
York,
this
is
a
later
picture
of
her,
she's
going
to
chase
Bill
around
with
the
Bible.
She
doesn't
give
Bill
a
break.
Because,
you
know,
there
was
more
agnostics
in
New
York,
and
in
Akron,
we
were
pretty,
you
know,
we
were
pretty
Bible-oriented.
But
in
New
York,
there
was
these
agnostic,
so
Bill
got
caught
up
in
between,
and
she
just,
she
really
hounded
that
guy.
Yeah.
You're
probably
familiar
with
this
quote.
Our
co-founders
believe
that
for
some
reason,
we
alcoholics
seem
to
have
the
gift
of
picking
out
the
world's
finest
women.
Girls,
you
might
want
to
remind
your
boyfriends
of
that
or
your
husband's.
I
think
it's
true.
So
Anne's
going
to
invite
Bill
to
stay.
Lois
wasn't,
if
you're
in
the
play,
it
shows
that
Lois
got
a
little
agitated
to
this.
Her
husband
never
came
home.
Okay.
And
they
began
sitting
around
the
tables
and
talking
this
program
up.
A
lot
of
times
I
think
it
was
the
kitchen.
In
some
of
the
old
pamphlets
in
AA,
they
called
the
kitchen,
the
AA
church.
And
here
are
the
Smith
children
in
the
living
room
of
the
home.
Dr.
Bob
and
Anne
had
two
children.
Sue
was
adopted,
so
they
were
both
the
same
age.
And
that's
Smitty
and
Sue.
Sue
lived
in
Akron
and
Smitty
lived
in
Texas.
And
here
they
are
sitting
between
the
Bible.
Now,
Anne
would
get
up
in
the
morning.
It
would
be
Bill
that
would
put
on
the
coffee
early
in
the
morning.
And
Anne
would
read
the
Bible
to
the
new
people.
She
called
it
spiritual
pablum.
She
read
from
the
book
of
James.
And
she'd
usually
conclude
what
faith
without
works
is
dead
or
God
is
love.
So
she
kind
of
sponsored
the
guys,
you
know.
And
here's
the
Smith
kids.
They
posed
because
they
were
always
fighting.
They
didn't
get
along
at
all.
And
that's
a
whole
other
story.
But
that
was
kind
of
a
cute
picture.
Now,
I
told
you
about
Lois
giving
up
her
home
and
having
someone
come
home
and
have
your
clothes
gone
and
a
dead
body
in
your
house.
And
that
would
be
awful.
Let
me
tell
you
what
happened
to
Ann.
I
mean,
these
are
kind
of
heroic
women
in
my
mind.
The
first
guy,
before
Bill
D.,
the
first
guy
they
pulled
in
was
Eddie
R.,
And
N.E.R.
was
kind
of
a
nut
case.
In
fact,
he
one
time
slid
down
the
drain
pipe
and
was
going
to
throw
himself
in
Lake
Erie,
and
Bob
and
Ann
had
to
go
get
him.
And
another
time,
his
wife
disclosed
her
discursions
to
him
like
you
were
supposed
to
do
in
the
Oxford
group,
and
he
beat
her
up.
And
that's
where
we
get
when
to
do
so
would
injure
them
or
others.
Well,
this
particular
time,
Anne
was
feeding
him
a
tuna
fish
sandwich,
and
he
went
nuts.
And
he
started
chasing
her
around
all
the
way
upstairs
with
the
butcher
knife.
And
Bill
came
in
just
in
the
nick
of
time
and
took
that
knife
from
him.
So
you
can
see
that,
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
I
would
like
that
too
much.
So
that
was,
oh,
by
the
way,
Eddie
R.
They
let
him
go
because
we
learned
you
don't
wet
nurse
or
drunk.
Eddie
R.
will
show
up
at
Dr.
Bob's
funeral,
1950,
with
almost
a
year
of
sobriety.
He
died
with
17
years.
I
love
those
stories.
A
little
happy
ending
there
for
Eddie.
Well,
they
let
Eddie
go
and
they
go
and
get
Bill
D.
Well,
behind
Bill
D
is
a
great
lady.
Her
name's
Henrietta,
another
Henrietta.
Now,
she
had
been
praying
for
her
husband,
and
she
had
fired
their
minister
because
he
wasn't
helping
him.
This
is
a
great
guy
when
he
was
sober.
He
was
a
great
guy
when
he
drank.
He
was
crazy.
And
this
is
the
guy
that,
you
know,
she
said,
if
you're
not
reaching
him,
I'm
going
to
find
someone
who
can
if
I
have
to
see
everyone
in
Akron.
And
she
prayed
with
the
pastor
of
another
church
that
someone
her
husband
could
understand
would
visit
him
in
city
hospital.
Well,
Dr.
Bob
was
working
at
City
Hospital,
and
he
had
sobered
up,
and
he
hadn't
been
sober
hardly
at
all.
And
he
called,
and
the
nurse
answered,
and
he
said,
this
is
Dr.
Bob,
and
I
found
a
cure
for
alcoholism.
And
the
nurse
said,
well,
Bob,
have
you
tried
it
on
yourself?
They
had
this
guy
strapped
to
the
bed.
And,
but
one
of
the
things
they
did
in
the
early
days,
this
is
before
Al-Anon
and
before
we
were
organized,
they
seemed
to
intuitively
know
that
you
go
to
the
wife
first.
So
they
went
to
Henrietta
first,
and
Dr.
Bob
said
the
little
lady
at
home
would
like
to
see
you.
So...
She
walks
up
to
the
Dr.
Smith,
and
she
knocks
on
the
door,
and
Anne
opens
the
door,
and
she
said,
Hello,
Mrs.
Smith.
And
Anne
said,
it's
Anne
to
you,
my
dear.
And
that
made
all
the
difference
to
her,
that
Anne
was
so
humble
and
informal.
And
then
she
mentioned
to
Henrietta,
let's
just
you
and
me
stay
in
the
background.
So
one
of
the
things
that
Anne
Smith
did
was
every
morning
she
would
call
Henrietta
to
check
and
see
what
her
guidance
was.
And
Anne
would
do
that
with
a
lot
of
people.
By
the
way,
Henrietta
was
the
first
woman
to
take
AA
into
a
treatment
center.
She
worked
at
a
woman's
correctional
house,
and
there
was
a
nurse
in
there
that
was
having
trouble
with
alcoholism.
So
she
was
the
first
one
to
take
that
in.
And
here
we
have
the
famous
man
on
the
bed.
But,
you
know,
for
a
very
long
time,
I
always
thought
we
should
have
the
woman
on
the
bed.
So
here
you
go.
I
don't
know
if
you
recognize
it
or
not,
but
I
was
kind
of
smiling.
I
mean,
how
would
you
feel
if
you
were
being
12-step
by
Bob
and
Bill?
Actually,
there
was
a
movie
being
done,
and
they
used
the
bedroom
in
my
home
because
it
looked
just
like
it.
The
director
saw
it.
And
so
the
actor,
I
said,
I'll
let
you
use
the
bedroom
for
the
scene
for
the
movie,
but
you've
got
to
let
me
put
on
that
white
beater
shirt
and
pose
for
that.
But
I
just,
I'm
going
to
have
to
Photoshop
that
smile
because
it
just
doesn't
look
like
I'm
bottomed
yet.
Now,
I
will
tell
you,
do
you
have
13
steps
here?
You
don't
have
them
in
Sweden,
do
you?
Well,
let
me
tell
you
about
the
first
13th
step.
A
gal
came
in
by
the
name
of
Lil.
She
was
the
first
woman
to
come
in.
And
she
started
to
do
the,
this
is
Dr.
Bob's
office
in
Akron.
And
she
was
up
there
in
his
office
with
a
former
mayor,
and
they
were
doing
the
wild
thing
on
Dr.
Bob's
operating
table.
And
it
was
time
to
go
home,
and
they
couldn't
get
her
to
go
home.
And
they
sent
the
fourth
man
in,
Ernie
G.
to
get
her.
And
when
he
came
up,
she
ran
and
got
some
pills
out
of
Dr.
Bob's
cabinet,
swallowed
them,
and
then
tried
to
jump
out
the
window.
They
rescued
her,
and
they
took
her
back
to
Dr.
Bob's
house.
And
they
cleaned
her
up
and
called
her
family.
But
gals,
she
set
us
back
quite
a
bit
because
after
that,
Dr.
Bob
didn't
want
to
work
with
women.
It
was
kind
of
a
scandal
that
all
that
happened.
And
so
he
was
finished
working
with
women
at
that
time.
We
call
Anne
Smith,
the
mother
of
A.A.,
she
really
was.
She
was
one
of
the
kindest
women.
She
never
forgot
anyone's
name.
If
she
saw,
you
need
it,
you
know,
this
is
depression
times.
She'd
sew
collars
on
coats
so
people
could
wear
them
in
the
winter
or
she'd
take
them
off
in
the
summer.
She
would
go
around
to
everybody
that
was
new.
Make
sure
she
greeted
them
somewhat
like
we
do
today.
And
she
would
always,
even
when
she
went
blind
later
on,
she
would
always
remember
the
people
and
ask
questions
about
them.
A
very,
very
special
woman,
and
she
does
deserve
the
title,
Mother
of
AA.
Okay.
In
fact,
she'd
say,
do
you
guys
say
keep
coming
back?
Because
I
think
that
comes
from
Anne
Smith.
There's
the
replica
coffee
pot.
The
original
is
at
Brown
University,
but
that
is
a
replica
there
in
the
window.
One
of
her
favorite
books
was
Kagawa,
The
Law
of
Love.
And
then
there's
a,
her
journal.
She
kept
a
journal,
and
that's
been
reproduced
as
well.
It's
beautiful.
And
also,
I'll
tell
you
a
little
bit,
do
we
have
any
Methodists
here?
If
you
know
of
a
Methodist,
there's
a
little
book
that
came
out,
and
you'll
see
that
book
there.
It
comes
out
coincidentally
in
the
spring
of
1935,
and
that
becomes
our
first
meditation
book.
It's
called
The
Upper
Room.
Oh,
let
me
go
back
for
just
a
minute.
This
isn't
particularly
a
profound
soundbite,
but
it's
the
only
one
we
have
of
Anne
Smith.
And
if
you'd
like
to
hear
her
voice,
I'll
play
it
for
you.
It
was
taken
off
a
wire
recording.
Last
night
you
saw
a
video
of
her.
She'll
refer
to
that
in
this
soundbite,
but
you'll
actually
hear
the
voice
of
Anne
Smith.
No,
you
won't.
Wait
a
minute.
I'm
on
technology.
Okay.
Here
we
go.
Robert
wants
me
to
start
first.
He's
afraid.
So
I...
We've
got
Betty
and
Smitty
here
with
us
and
George
Hood.
We're
all
up
in
my
bedroom
where
we
entertain
now.
Very
formal
entertaining,
as
you
can
imagine.
It
was
very
nice
of
you
to
invite
both
Bob
and
myself
down
to
Bedford
Hills
and
we'd
love
to
come.
But
at
present,
we...
I
imagine
we're...
will
have
to
stay
put
at
855
hour
more.
This
is
a
new
experience
for
me.
I
had
a
moving
picture
taken
to
myself,
and
now
I'm
recording.
So
you
see,
even
with
a
bum
eye,
I'm
still
alive
and
kicking.
Here's
the
robber.
That
was
to
Bill
and
Lois.
Both
couples
traveled
back
and
forth
to
visit
one
another.
They
were
pretty
close.
And
that's
kind
of
sweet.
Well...
One
more
thing
the
Smith
did.
You
see,
as
the
word
of
the
cure
got
out,
people
started
coming
to
Akron.
I
know
some
of
you
might
have
seen
the
movie.
My
name
is
Bill
W.
I
was
a
little
disappointed
in
that
movie
because
about
15
minutes
before
the
movie's
over
with,
Bill's
not
even
sober
yet.
I
was
freaking
when
I
saw
it
the
first
time
I'm
going,
because
I
knew
what
happened
in
Akron.
They
didn't
come
close
to
tell
them
the
story.
Not
only
did,
you
know,
Anne
Smith,
of
course,
opened
her
home.
And
Archie
Tobridge
came.
And
he
stayed
with
the
Smiths
in
November
of
1938.
His
story
is
in
the
first
edition.
It
was
called
The
Fearful
One.
Later
became
known
as
the
man
who
mastered
fear.
And
he
was
so
sickly.
And
now,
they
didn't
have
hardly
enough
food
to
go
around
in
the
family
at
all.
But
they
took
him
in
and
they
cared
for
him
for
one
year.
And
he
stated
this,
that
I've
been
taken
off
the
streets
and
nurtured
back
to
health
by
the
love
of
Anne
Smith.
And
then
he
went
back
and
he
started
AA
in
Detroit.
Now
this
was
pretty
common.
There
were
other
families
that
opened
their
homes.
People
would
come
in
and
they
would
get
sober.
The
women
would
care
for
them.
They
would
teach
them
how
to
meditate
and
work
this
program.
And
then
they
would
go
back
and
start
AA
in
their
city.
That's
how
Earl
Treats
started
AA
in
Chicago.
And...
was
pretty
common.
Now
the
fourth
man
in
after
Bill
D
was
Ernie
G.
There's
two
Ernie
G's,
but
this
is
number
four
Ernie
G.
And,
um,
he
would
end
up
marrying
Dr.
Bob's
daughter.
And
it's
a
great
story
because
she
wanted
to
marry
Ray
Windows,
who
she
had
a,
oh,
if
you
read
Children
of
the
Healer,
a
book
that
the
Smith
children
wrote,
she
was
always
running
away
from
Bob
and
Ann,
who
didn't
like
Ray,
didn't
want
her
to
marry
him.
So
she
was
always
sneaking
around,
so
she
lost
a
lot
of
history
running
away
from
what
was
going
on
in
the
house.
And
so
Dr.
Bob
intervened,
this
is
Priyalanon,
and
he
gave
Ernie
some
money
to
take
her
out
and
have
a
hamburger.
Well,
he
was
sorry
about
that
later
because
they
hooked
up
and
got
married.
He
wasn't
too
happy.
These
are
the
gall
breasts.
Now,
again,
this
is
Ernie's
family.
Okay.
The
family
was
a
part
of
AA
as
well.
And
Mama
Galbraith,
she
would
go
around
and
pick
up
the
upper
rooms
and
drop
them
off
in
the
houses
for
meditation.
And
I
told
you
the
alcoholics
didn't
like
checking.
Well,
they
would
go
into
your
bathroom
and
see
if
you
had
it
open
to
the
right
day.
They
would
actually
check
to
see
if
you
were
reading
the
book.
Well,
this
is
Susie.
By
the
way,
she
is
A.A.'s
first
Allotene.
You
know,
the
Smith
children
gave
up
their
bedrooms
so
that
they
could
bring
in
the
drunks.
They
would
detox
them
in
the
house,
and
the
kids
would
have
to
leave
their
own
bedrooms.
So
she
calls
herself
A.A.'s
first
alitine.
Now,
after
Ernie
dies,
she
later,
Ray's
wife
dies,
and
the
two
lovebirds
get
back
together.
I
don't
know
if
Anne
and
Bob
rolled
over
in
their
grave
or
not,
but
it's
kind
of
a
sweet
love
story
that
they
ended
up
hooking
up
after
all.
Wally
and
Annabel
G.,
his
story
is
fired
again,
and
John
and
L.G.
from
1939,
they
were
all
taking
people
in,
and
the
wives
were
doing
this
as
much
as
the
husbands
were.
The
homes
were
open.
And
a
lot
happened
in
1939.
The
book's
going
to
get
published,
and
Dr.
Bob
has
kind
of
worn
out
his
welcome
at
City
Hospital,
where
Bill
D.
got
sober.
And
so
he
doesn't
know
where
to
put
his
patients.
And
he
approaches
St.
Thomas
Hospital,
where
Sister
Ignatia,
through
a
series
of
events,
has
had
a
nervous
breakdown,
and
they've
put
her
in
charge
of
admissions
for
the
hospital.
And
she
liked
Dr.
Bob.
So
she
agreed
to
sneak...
the
guys
up
the
hospital
steps
and
put
them,
the
first
guy,
whose
name
was
Walter
B,
she
put
him
in
a
flower
room.
That's
where
they
would
keep
all
the
flowers
from
the
hospital.
Now,
you've
got
a
picture,
poor
Walter.
Let's
say
he's
coming
out
of
a
blackout.
Can
you
imagine
waking
up
in
the
flower
room?
Wouldn't
you
think
you
were
at
your
own
funeral?
This
work...
would
continue
to
grow
and
she
would
face
a
lot
of
controversy
because
they
used
to
say
to
Dr.
Bob
and
to
to
Ignatia,
well,
the
only
way
to
get
a
patient
in
this
hospital,
they
have
to
be
alcoholic
because
she
became
the
angel
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
she
and
Dr.
Bob
would
treat
over
5,000
patients.
And
Dr.
Bob
never
charged
for
that.
He
took
out
insurance
every
day
by
visiting
the
men
in
the
ward.
Now,
Sister
Ignatia
did
not
get
women
alcoholics
at
all.
She
thought
we
had
a
moral
problem.
So
she,
I
know,
oh,
so
she
never
treated
women
until
later
when
she
went
to
Cleveland.
And
what
she
gave
the
men
is
the
sacred
heart.
This
is
where
people
believe
that
our
medallions
and
things
that
we
carry
today
first
started
from.
She
would
give
them
to
the
patients,
and
she
would
tell
them,
if
you're
going
to
go
take
a
drink,
bring
this
back
to
me.
And
nobody
ever
did.
I've
seen
old-timers
reach
in
their
wallets,
they're
kind
of
shaking,
and
they
bring
it
out,
and
they
cry.
They
loved
her.
They
said
if
the
Catholics
don't
canonize
her,
the
Protestants
will.
And
she
just
really
had
away
with
the
men.
And
she
did
work
with
the
families
and
Dr.
Bob,
but
she
would
call
Anne
every
day
because
she
didn't
want
to
bother
the
good
doctor.
And
they
would
talk
about
how
to
treat
each
patient
and
each
family.
So
it
was
a
little
consciousness
going
on
there
all
the
time.
There's
another
picture
of
her.
We
fought
to
keep
her
as
long
as
we
could.
We
fought
to
keep
her
as
long
as
we
could.
And
when
she
left,
and
I
can't
remember,
it
was
probably
in
the
late
50s,
I'll
have
to,
I
don't
have
a
committed
to
memory,
but
I
will
tell
you
a
great
story.
They
loved
her
so
much.
that
when
she
let,
well,
first
of
all,
in
this
is
in
A.A.
Comes
of
Age,
in
1951,
oh,
she
went
to
St.
Vincent
Charity
Hospital
in
Cleveland,
but
outside
the
chapel,
we've
just
redone
the
chapel
for
her.
The
ward
is
gone.
You
can't
visit
that
anymore
in
Akron.
But
there's
a
plaque
in
gratitude
to
her
that
we
gave
her
in
1950.
But
when
she
left,
you
see
this
bridge
here,
this
is
the
bridge
where
they
would
drive
the
alcoholics.
And
to
the
left
was
St.
Thomas
Hospital.
And
you
couldn't
put
a
patient
in
St.
Thomas
Hospital
unless
you
were
in
AA.
You
had
to
have
a
sponsor
to
put
a
patient
in,
and
you
had
to
have
a
sponsor
to
pick
that
patient
up.
That
didn't
get
changed
until
later
on,
I
think
it
was
about
1983
that
we
let
go
of
that
policy.
It
was
the
same
in
Cleveland.
But
when
she
left
to
go
to
Cleveland,
it
was
a
very
sad
day
when
we
lost
her.
And
the
old-timers
filled
this
bridge.
It
was
early
in
the
morning
when
she
left.
And
they
filled
the
bridge
in
the
early
hours
of
the
morning,
put
their
headlights
on
and
stood
outside
their
cars
out
of
respect
for
her
when
she
left.
And
then
Cleveland
got
her,
and
I
just
went
up
to
a
dedication
not
too
long
ago,
some
of
the
old
timers
remembered
her,
and
they
donated
a
highway
to
her
called
Ignatia
Way.
She
would
have
hated
that.
But
they
loved
her
so
much.
They
would
do
anything
for
her.
They
would
build
a
wing
on
the
hospital
for
her,
whatever
she
asked.
I'd
like
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
King's
school.
When
we
finally
leave
the
Oxford
group,
we're
going
to
meet
in
Dr.
Bob's
home.
There'll
be
about
70-some
people.
Dr.
Bob
will
introduce
himself
as
an
alcoholic.
That's
the
first
I
know
where
anybody
that's
written
that
we
introduced
ourselves
as
an
alcoholic.
He
will
open
the
Bible
and
he
will
begin
reading
from
Sermon
on
the
Mount.
But
by
1940,
we
move
into
King's
School.
And
this
is,
where
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
wives.
They
had
a
special
part
in
the
meeting.
They
would
wash
dishes
and
make
coffee.
And
the
women,
in
the
early
days,
the
women
sat
on
one
side
and
the
men
sat
on
the
other.
And
downstairs
in
the
cafeteria,
you
would
go
down
and
you
would
get
coffee
and
donuts.
Now,
refreshments
were
Anne's
part
of
the
meeting.
I
already
mentioned
to
you
that
she'd
go
from
table
to
table,
make
sure
she
introduced
herself
to
everybody
that
was
new,
and
that's
always
a
good
thing
to
still
do
in
AA.
And
she'd
say,
I
want
to
welcome
you
and
your
lovely
wife
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
We
hope
you
will
keep
coming
back,
and
I
mentioned
to
you,
never
forgot
anybody's
name.
There
would
be
no
AA
without
the
wives,
because
in
the
early
days,
the
wives
sought
help.
They
helped
with
the
meetings.
They
opened
their
homes.
They
did
the
12-step
work.
They
called
to
get
men
to
visit
the
patients.
They
made
the
directories.
And
they
planned
at
the
picnics.
One
of
the
things
that's
so
important,
I
believe,
from
AA,
that
we
can
draw
from
the
early
days.
There
was
so
much
fellowship.
They
wanted
those
men
to
stay
sober.
They
needed
them
to
go
back
to
work
because
it
was
depression
times,
and
times
were
very,
very
difficult.
So
they
worked
very
hard
to
plan
the
parties
and
the
picnics
and
to
make
sure
there
was
a
lot
of
fellowship.
And
there
was
always
a
lot
of
fellowship,
which
today
we're
losing.
I
was
able
to
join
King's
School
when
I
came
in
in
1978,
and
they
would
go
and
get
the
coffee
and
the
donuts
and
bring
it
to
the
table.
And
now
we
close
right
after
the
Lord's
Prayer,
and
the
fellowship's
gone,
and
I
miss
it.
But
I
trace
it
back
to
what
they
were
doing
here.
This
is
Ruth
Hawke.
This
would
become
Bill's
secretary,
and
she
would
be
the
gal
that
would
type
the
book.
And
I
would
like
to
introduce
her
to
you.
As
I
said,
I
think
I
was
a
very
good
secretary,
and
I
didn't
like
the
various...
Oops,
I
did
that
when
I
fixed
my
belt.
as
i
said
i
think
i
was
a
very
good
secretary
and
i
didn't
like
the
various
jobs
i
had
at
that
time
and
for
one
reason
or
another
i'd
simply
tell
them
i
was
quitting
in
two
weeks
and
do
so
and
i
was
always
able
to
get
a
job
of
course
it
was
depression
times
and
you
didn't
work
for
much
but
i
actually
came
to
them
through
an
agency
i
contacted
an
agency
for
a
secretary
and
that's
what
i
thought
i
was
doing
at
the
time
they're
laughing
because
as
i
mentioned
She
never
did
much
secretary
work.
It
was
usually
somebody
passed
out
or
surrendering
on
their
knees.
She
did
dictation
for
Bill
on
the
book.
And
they
paid
her
with
these
lousy
certificates
here.
Those
were,
they
meant
nothing.
They
just
went
down
to
the
stationery
store,
grabbed
them.
And
they
weren't
incorporated
or
anything.
They
were
worthless.
But
they
would
give
her
one
of
those
rations
a
week.
And
little
did
she
know
that
the
book
she
was
typing
would
one
day
save
her
daughter's
life,
Lori,
who's
got
30
years
of
sobriety.
There's
the
typewriter.
Notice
the
bottle
there.
I
think
that
clicking
away
all
the
time.
She
had
to
type
it
out
a
lot.
You
know,
they
sent
out
the
manuscript
copy
of
the
big
book,
and
it
was
mimeographed
off.
So
I
don't
really
know
how
many
times
she
had
to
type
that,
but
it
wasn't
like
word
processors
today.
It
had
to
be
pretty
rough.
She
got
the
five
millionth
copy
of
the
big
book
in
Montreal.
This
is
just
an
inscription
to
Lois
that
I
read
last
night
from
the
big
book
about
him
thanking
her
for
her
fortitude
in
the
dark
days
together
that
made
the
pages
possible.
So
Bill
was
always
grateful
to
Lois
for
her
sacrifices.
Remember
I
mentioned
to
you
Clarence?
Clarence
was
a
pigeon
of
Dr.
Bob's.
And
it
was
his
wife,
Dorothy,
that
I
just
got
that
picture
of...
It's
an
interesting
story
about
Clarence.
He
wanted
to
be
considered
a
tri-founder
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
He
was
the
first
one,
I
said,
to
break
away
and
start
the
meetings
in
Cleveland.
Well,
what
happened
in
Cleveland,
and
this
was
in
1939,
the
Cleveland
Plain
Dealer,
the
newspaper
there,
wrote
a
series
of
10
articles
on
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
it
was
actually
Dorothy
that
had
told
Clarence,
she
gave
him
an
ultimatum.
Have
you
ever
given
anybody
an
ultimatum?
She
said,
I'm
going
to
leave
you
if
you
don't
go
down
and
see
Dr.
Bob.
And
she
even
got
him
with
a
bus
ticket
to
go
down
and
see
him.
So
when
these
articles
came
out,
A.A.
I
mean,
people
just
poured
into
the
meetings
in
Cleveland.
500
people
came
in.
But
there
were
only
13
guys
sober.
Imagine
that.
So
it
was
Clarence
that
organized
sponsorship
and
did
so
much
of
the
early
work
in
Cleveland.
And
about
80%
of
our
membership,
if
you
can
see
it
in
the
charts,
would
be
coming
out
of
Cleveland.
But
it
was
Dorothy
that
would
make
the
calls.
And
it
would
be
Dorothy.
It
was
actually
Dorothy
that
went
with
them
up
to
Cornwall
Press
at
the
printing
of
the
book.
So
she
did
a
lot
to
help
AA
in
Cleveland.
And
I'll
play
a
little
bit
for
her.
And
I
think
this
is
Ruth
Hawke
talking
about
her.
this
and
Some
of
you
may
know
clients
of
Cleveland,
who
has
so
much
to
do
with
starting
the
Cleveland
A.A.
groups.
His
wife
had
a
sister
in
Bronx,
New
York,
and
she
had
come
to
visit
the
sister
and
had
met
Bill.
And
she
called
Bill
up
and
said
she
was
in
town,
and
she
liked
to
see
him.
He
said,
we're
up
at
Cornwall.
Come
on
up,
you
know.
And
I
must
say,
like
most
men
of
good
taste,
Bill
like
pretty
girls,
too.
And
Dorothy
was
a
lovely,
warm...
just
humor,
full
of
humor,
full
of
laughter
person,
and
he
liked
Dorothy
very
much.
So
there
we
were,
the
four
of
us,
and
I
had
never
met
Dorothy
before,
but
we
immediately
developed
a
perfect
rapport,
as
though
we'd
known
each
other
all
our
lives,
and
after
we
had
done
the
stint
for
the
day,
she
and
I
shared
a
bedroom,
and
we
were
talking
away
and
talking
away,
and
this
must
have
been
1.32
o'clock
in
the
morning,
there
was
a
knock
on
the
door,
and
it
was
Bill.
and
Bill
couldn't
sleep.
Hank
was
found
asleep
somewhere,
but
Bill
couldn't
sleep.
And
we
had
coffee
sent
up,
Dorothy
and
I.
So
we
were
in
a
room
with
one
big
double
bed,
so
Bill
just
got
right
in
the
middle,
and
there
we
were.
And
we
talked
the
rest
of
the
night,
the
three
of
us,
in
that
position.
Can
you
just
picture
Bill
jumping
in
bed
with
those
two
girls?
Clarence's
story
is
Home
Brewmeister.
Oh,
by
the
way,
yeah.
He
is
in
the
first
edition.
Now,
Marie
was
Walters,
the
first
guy
to
go
into
St.
Thomas
Hospital,
and
she
actually,
in
the
early
days,
wrote
a
chapter
to
the
wives.
She
wasn't
an
alcoholic,
but
in
the
manuscript
she
wrote
that
chapter.
Let
me
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
Sylvia
Kay.
She
was
really
a
good-looking
woman,
and
she
came
to
Akron
to
get
the
cure.
And
she
came
with
her
non-alcoholic
secretary,
Grace
Coltis.
And...
Well,
I
told
you
that
Dr.
Bob
was
a
little
nervous
about
women,
and
she
was
so
attractive
and
so
wealthy,
that
he
sent
her
up
to
Cleveland
and
had
Dorothy
work
with
her.
And
when
she
went
back
on
the
train,
Dr.
Bob's
daughter
told
me
that
she
thought
that
perhaps
Dorothy
was
taking
pills.
But
when
she
got
back
to
Chicago,
she
got
sober.
And
this
would
be
1939.
And...
But
what's
really
interesting
is
her
non-alcoholic
secretary,
Grace,
will
start
the
first
inner
group
office
in
her
apartment.
This
is
Marty
Mann.
Marty
Mann
will
also
get
sober
in
1939.
Dr.
Tebow
will
give
her
a
copy
of
the
manuscript,
and
she
will
take
off
for
Clinton
Street.
And...
She
will
get
sober
in
1939.
There's
some
debate
over,
now
we're
talking
no
longer
about
the
wives.
We're
talking
about
the
first
AA
women
that
are
coming
in.
And
we
never
were
clear
on
who
they
were
and
when
they
came
in.
Both
these
women
came
in
in
39.
I
think
there's
about
a
month
apart
between
both
of
them.
And
I'd
like
to
play
for
you
a
little
bit
about
Marty,
and
she'll
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
what
it
was
like
to
walk
into
that
group
with
all
those
men.
This
was
the
greatest
feeling
I
had,
and
yet,
and
yet,
there
wasn't
a
woman
member
there.
I
was
it.
Now,
I'll
grant
you,
there
are
a
lot
of
nice
things
about
that,
particularly
since
a
lot
of
the
men
didn't
have
wives.
On
the
other
hand,
I
really
did
feel
that
it
would
be
very
nice
to
talk
to
another
woman
alcoholic.
I
had
met
a
couple
in
the
sanitarium.
In
fact,
I
knew
of
one
who
was
no
longer
there
and
who
needed
what
we
had,
but
she
wasn't
there
at
the
moment,
and
I
didn't
quite
know
how
to
get
to
her.
But
I
asked
immediately,
I
said,
aren't
there
any
women
in
this
group?
There
was
a
story
in
this
manuscript
about
a
woman,
but
I
hadn't
met
her.
And
I
found
that
she
was
living
in
Washington,
her
name
was
Florence,
where
she
and
a
man
named
Fitz
had
gone
to
try
and
start
a
group.
And
I
looked
forward
very
eagerly
to
her
return
to
New
York
or
her
visit
to
New
York
so
I
could
meet
and
talk
with
her.
She
was
a
considerably
older
woman,
and
she
had
great
many
physical
problems
too,
and
unfortunately
I
only
saw
her
sober
on
a
couple
of
occasions.
And
she
died
before
I
had
anywhere
near
completed
my
first
year.
So
that
did
not
really
answer
my
need.
And
as
the
months
went
on,
I
worked
awfully
hard
to
get
some
companions
in
there.
I
don't
know
how
many
women
I
tried
to
help.
But
I
didn't...
So
you
can
imagine
how
difficult
that
would
be.
When
we
take
so
for
granted
today,
there's
women
there,
the
hand
of
AA
is
there,
what
it
would
be
like
for
women
all
over
the
country
and
maybe
your
country
to
be
the
first
woman
to
come
in,
and
there's
not
a
woman
in
front
of
them.
One
of
the
things
I
get
out
of
this
talk
is
I
always
remember
to
thank
a
woman
who's
been
around
for
a
while
for
going
before
us
and
making
it
just
a
little
easier.
Well,
she
was
talking
about
Florence
Rankin.
Florence
Rankin
story
was
in
the
manuscript
copy
of
the
book.
She's
the
one
that
came
in
and
said,
when
the
boys
wanted
to
call
it
100
men,
she
said,
you
can't
call
it
100
men,
you've
got
to
call
it
100
men
and
one
woman.
Her
story
was
called
a
feminine
victory.
In
1939,
she
returned
to
drinking
and
died
of
an
apparent
suicide.
Okay.
I
want
to
tell
you
of
another
woman
that
came
out.
A
lot
of
you
folks
know
about
the
West
Coast.
This
is
Hollywood,
California.
It's
dated
December
6,
1941.
Her
name
is
Irma
Livoni.
Dear
Mrs.
Levoni,
at
a
meeting
of
the
executive
committee
of
the
Los
Angeles
Group
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
held
December
4th,
1941.
It
was
decided
that
your
attendance
at
group
meetings
was
no
longer
desired
until
certain
explanations
and
plans
for
the
future
were
made
to
the
satisfaction
of
this
committee.
This
action
has
been
taken
for
reasons
which
should
be
most
apparent
to
yourself.
It
was
decided
that,
should
you
so
desire,
you
may
appear
before
members
of
this
committee
and
state
your
attitude.
This
opportunity
will
be
afforded
you
between
now
and
December
15,
1941.
You
may
communicate
with
us
at
the
above
address
by
that
date.
In
case
you
do
not
wish
to
appear,
we
shall
consider
the
matter
closed
and
that
your
membership
is
terminated.
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
Los
Angeles
Group.
Yeah.
It
wasn't
that
easy
for
a
woman
to
come
into
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Marty
Men...
was
the
first
woman
to
stay
sober
for
a
period
of
time.
She
did
relapse
a
couple
times,
one
time
even
in
1960.
She
was
a
very
bright
woman
and
got
very
excited
about
sobriety,
and
she
realized
that
there
was
a
stigma.
I
mean,
there's
a
stigma
on
alcoholics,
but
there
was
really
a
stigma
on
women
alcoholics.
But
she
felt
that
through
education
we
could
break
that
stigma.
So
she
started
the
National
Council
on
Alcoholism
to
educate
people
on
alcohol,
and
it
still
exists
today.
But
she
made
a
little
mistake.
She
put
Bob
and
Bill's
name
on
her
stationery
when
she
was
requesting
money.
And
our
trustees
got
a
little
upset
about
that,
but
we
got
a
tradition
out
of
it.
You
know,
we
don't
endorse
or
affiliate
with
any
outside
entities
this
day
because
of
her
example.
Then
there
was
Bobby
Berger.
I
don't
have
a
picture
of
Bobby,
but
she
actually
ended
up
after
Ruth
Hawk
left
the
office.
She
would
be
the
next
secretary.
But
Marty
Mann
apparently
knew
a
little
bit
about
her.
I
did,
and
none
of
them
made
it,
but
she
did.
Her
name
was
Bobby.
And
Bobby
Berger
later
became
the
secretary
of
what
is
today,
GSO.
where
she
worked
for
many
years
and
where
her
name
became
known
to
AAs
all
over
the
world
because
she
was
the
one
who
corresponded
with
her.
And
this
was
the
gal
I
said
couldn't
make
it.
Well,
I
was
pretty
glad
she
did
make
it.
And
it
wasn't
very
long
after
that
that
one
of
her
12th
step
calls
turned
out
well.
Now
we're
going
to
talk
about
Akron
Zethel
Macy.
When
I
first
started
doing
this
history
work,
I
thought
Ethel
was
the
first
woman
to
ever
get
sober.
That's
what
everyone
in
Akron
thought.
We
didn't
have
history
on
the
women
at
all.
We
had
history
on
the
men,
but
we
didn't
have
history
on
the
women.
So
I
used
to
say,
well,
Ethel
was
the
first
woman
who
got
sober.
Her
story's
in
the
big
book,
a
second
edition
from
farm
to
city.
However,
she
was
the
first
woman
with
continuous
sobriety.
Her
sobriety
never
broke.
So
they
put
that
little
adjective
in
there
that
made
all
the
difference.
She
weighed
300
pounds,
so
I
don't
think
she
had
too
much
trouble
with
the
wives.
And
she
also
came
in
with
her
husband
Roscoe,
and
he
was
a
skinny
little
guy
about
half
her
size.
They
say
that
she
looked
like
mutton
Jeff.
She
also
started
the
first
woman's
group.
Let's
hear
from
her.
And
then
we
started
at
King's
School,
which
was
the
only
group
then.
And
we
went
there
religiously
for
a
year.
We
never
missed
a
Wednesday
night.
And
I
just
loved
every
bit
of.
But
at
first
I
thought
that
the
wives
would
look
down
on
me,
and
they
didn't.
I
always...
I
just
can't
ever
fail
to
give
the
wife
so
much
credit.
They
were
such
a
help
to
me.
I
thought
that
probably
they'd
say,
well,
they
say
she's
one
of
those
things
too.
But
the
only
thing
that
was
said,
and
not
in
unkindness
at
all,
they
turned
me
over
to
Annabel
Gillum,
and
she
says,
well,
I
understand
you
drank
too.
And
instead
of
resenting
it,
I
said,
yes,
that's
what
I'm
here
for.
And
we
saw
several
different
people
that
we
knew
Annabel
Gillum
was
not
alcoholic,
but
that's
who
they
gave
her
to.
I
love
this
one.
Watch
her
name
here.
This
is
how
she
introduced
herself.
Sybil
Doris
Adam
Stratton.
Continued
by...
Full
stop.
I
got
to
do
that
again.
I
don't
know
why
that
happened.
Here
we
go
again.
Sybil
Doris
Adam
Stratton
Hart.
Continued
by
saying
if
there
are
any
women
here,
they
must
go.
Continued
by,
continued
by
saying
if
there
are
any
women
here,
they
must
go.
And
he
met
me,
I
thought.
Yeah.
because
I
didn't
see
any
other
women
there.
I
didn't
see
any
other
women
there.
It
turned
out
there
had
been
a
couple,
you
know,
sitting
over
kind
of
at
the
side,
and
they
were
non-alcoholic
wives.
It
was
simply
that
those
good
fellows
there
had
had
a
closed
meeting
for
a
couple
of
years,
and
a
couple
of
the
wives
or
three
or
four
of
the
wives
came
down.
They
just
wandered
outside
and
sat
on
the
Davenport
and
talked
about
their
husbands
or
knitted
or...
change
exchange
recipes
or
something
because
there
was
no
Alan
no
program
for
them
and
I
guess
he
spotted
these
two
women
over
there
and
said
as
is
our
custom
will
the
women
please
wait
outside
and
come
back
in
for
refreshments
but
it
was
just
as
good
as
throwing
me
out
bodily
when
he
said
the
women
go
that
was
me
as
all
I
was
so
self-concerned
so
I
left
she
had
read
the
Saturday
evening
post
she
had
phone
New
York
and
she
had
gotten
the
name
of
this
group
So
she
went
and
she
took
her
husband
with
her.
And
they
did
not
know
that
she
was
the
alcoholic.
So
they
asked
her
to
leave
and
the
non-alcoholic
husband
stayed.
Now
I
mentioned
to
you
that
the
Saturday
evening
post
had
come
out.
Now
find
out
what
happens
after
she
comes
back
the
next
week.
Here's
what
happens
to
her.
He
got
down
to
the
last
stack
with
big
rubber
band
around
at
about
50.
And
he
said,
I've
been
saving
these
to
the
last
because
they're
all
from
women.
And
we
have
a
woman
alcoholic
now
and
her
name
is
Sybil.
So
come
on
up
here,
Sybil.
I'm
putting
you
in
charge
of
all
the
women.
And
I
thought,
boy,
I
got
promoted
in
a
hurry.
I
was
thrown
out
last
week
and
now
I'm
in
charge.
So
I
tottered
up
there
and
as
I
told
you
last
night,
I
said
I
can't,
I
can't,
why
can't
you?
I
said,
I'll
be
drunk
next
Friday.
I
always
have
been.
It
won't
be
any
different
unless.
Can
you
imagine
your
first
meeting?
Somebody
hands
you
50
names
to
go
12
steps?
Yes.
She
stayed
sober.
She
had
the
most
amount
of
sobriety
in
Montreal,
and
I
had
a
chance
to
hear
and
Clancy
speak,
and
it
was
so
cute,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
you
know
Clancy,
and
you
love
him.
And
I
sat
there
with
the
girls
I
was
sponsoring,
and
it
was
on
sponsorship,
and
she
is
so
sweet,
and
she
was
saying,
oh,
Oh,
yes.
And,
you
know,
when
you
sponsor
someone,
you
just
have
to
love
them.
You
just
have
to
unconditionally
love
them.
And
I'm
going,
yeah,
that's
right.
You've
got
to
just
love
them.
And
Clancy
stepped
up
and
said,
you
love
them
like
that,
you'll
kill
them.
You
know,
different
strokes
for
different
folks.
This
gal
Esther
E.
got
sober
in
1943.
She
was
known
as
the
flower
of
the
South,
and
she
sobered
up
in
Houston.
I
was
just
down
in
Dallas.
They
talk
about
her
all
the
time.
She
started
a
lot
of
meetings,
was
good
friends
with
Bill,
and
was
a
real
pioneer
in
this
program.
I've
already
mentioned
this,
but
it's
certainly
worth
mentioning
again.
In
the
Oxford
Group
days,
when
they
would
get
quiet
and
listen,
they
would
write
down
what
God
said
to
them.
Two
women.
Two
women
were
called
two
listeners.
They
remain
anonymous
to
this
day.
And
they
wrote
a
book
that
A.J.
Russell,
who
was
an
Oxford
group
writer,
went
and
edited
their
years
of
meditation.
Okay.
Then
Richmond
Walker
got
sober
in
1942,
and
he
took
the
book,
and
he
took
each
page
of
God
calling,
and
he
made
it
into
a
meditation
and
a
prayer
book
for
alcoholics,
and
he
called
it
the
24-hour
book.
They
offered
it
to
our
office,
we
turned
it
down,
and
Hazleton
built
an
empire
on
it.
I
love
this.
Early
female
sponsorship.
This
comes
out
of
Dr.
Bob
and
the
good
old
timers.
There
was
a
gal
that
got
sober,
and
they
said
she
looked
kind
of
like
a
football
player.
And
here's
what
she
said
about
sponsorship.
If
she
sponsored
you
and
you
got
drunk,
she'd
pick
you
up
and
slap
you
around.
Then
she'd
tell
you,
if
you
didn't
get
sober,
you
were
going
to
get
some
more.
Here's
a
woman
trying
to
console
Sandra.
She
says,
it's
really
no
disgrace,
Sandra.
Just
go
to
a
meeting
with
me
and
you'll
see.
Now,
I
want
to
tell
you
about
a
grapevine
article
that
came
out
in
October
of
1946.
Okay.
Here's
what
that
grapevine
article
said
about
women.
The
percentage
of
the
women
who
stay
in
AA
is
low.
Many
women
form
attachments
too
intense
bordering
on
the
emotional.
So
many
women
want
to
run
things.
Too
many
women
don't
like
women.
By
the
way,
the
wives
in
Cleveland
threw
out
the
first
AA
women.
They
were
really
a
threat.
Women
talked
too
much.
Women
are
a
questionable
help
working
with
men
and
vice
versa.
Sooner
or
later,
a
woman
on
the
make
sallies
into
a
group
on
the
prowl
for
phone
numbers
and
dates.
A
lot
of
women
are
attention
demanders.
Few
women
can
think
in
the
abstract.
Oh,
you
think
that's
funny.
The
men
seem
to
be
chuckling
just
a
little
too
loud.
Women's
feelings
get
hurt
too
often.
Far
too
many
women
in
AA
cannot
get
along
with
the
non-alcoholic
wives
of
A.A.
members.
Look
at
this
magazine.
This
was
Confidential
Magazine,
came
out
with
this
article.
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
no
booze,
but
plenty
of
babes.
Hard
to
believe,
isn't
it?
And
here's
Nell
Wing.
I
did
a
talk
for
the
National
Archives
Workshop
on
Nell
Wing,
and
the
more
I
talked
about
her,
this
is
the
non-alcoholic
secretary
of
Bill.
And
you
wanna
talk
about
the
woman
behind
the
man.
This
woman
was
Bill's
Gal
Friday.
And
when
he
wrote
the
12
and
12
and
all
the
conferences
and
everything,
it
was
Nell.
Nell
was
there
with
him
when
he
flew
down
on
the
plane
with
Bill
when
he
died
in
Miami.
and
was
holding
his
hand,
telling
him
to
hold
on
fast
bill.
And
she
was
a
true
friend
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
She
was
a
friend
of
mine.
And
she
was
such
a
loyal
companion
that
when
I
went
to
go
do
this
talk
on
Nell
as
a
tribute
to
her,
she
died
just
a
few
years
ago,
and
she
was
our
first
archivist.
And
I
wanted
to
talk
about
her,
but
there
wasn't
anything
to
talk
about.
She
was
in
such
service
to
Bill
and
Lois
that
her
whole
life
was
Bill
and
Lois.
So
I
ended
up
almost
having
to
talk
about
what
she
did
for
Bill
and
Lois,
not
what
her
interests
were.
And
she
wrote
a
book
called
Grateful
to
Have
Been
There,
and
she
was
grateful
to
be
a
part
of
AA.
She
was
just
a
true
non-alcoholic
servant.
We
had
a
lot
of
friends
that
helped
us
along
the
way,
and
it
wasn't
just
alcoholics.
Bill
will
come
to
town
shortly
before
Dr.
Bob
dies,
and
we're
going
to
lose
Anne
Smith
in
1949.
It's
believed
that
we
knew
Dr.
Bob
was
dying.
She
knew
that,
and
she
just
didn't
want
to
be
around
for
that
day.
So
she
will
precede
him
in
death.
Ignatia
will
be
taking
care
of
her.
But
after
she
dies,
we
wanted
in
Akron,
we
wanted
to
build
her
a
beautiful...
monument
to
her
and
to
Dr.
Bob
for
being
who
they
were
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
And
Bob
actually
had
the
blueprints.
And
when
Bill
came,
he
laid
them
out
on
the
floor.
And
then
he
looked
up
at
Bill
and
he
said,
why
don't
you
and
me
just
get
buried
like
regular
folks?
So
if
you
come
to
Akron
and
you
visit
the
grave,
that's
what
you'll
see
there.
Just
a
humble
grave
with
their
names
on
it.
There's
a
humble
grave
for
you,
just
a
marker
in
East
Dorset,
right
down
the
street
from
the
inn
that
Bill
was
born
in.
By
the
way,
he
was
born
in
a
room
behind
a
bar,
don't
you
think
that's
great?
There's
two
simple
markers,
one
to
Lois
and
one
to
Bill.
And
you
wouldn't
even
know
they
were
in
that
cemetery
except
it's
so
worn
from
people
visiting
the
grave.
And
then
finally...
It
was
John
Cyberling,
Henrietta's
son,
that
told
us
about
Henrietta.
And
I
remember
when
he
did
that,
it
was
at
a
conference
I
was
asked,
and
somebody
said,
where
is
your
mother
buried?
And
he
said,
in
Kentucky.
And
he
said,
and
do
you
know
what
it
says
on
her
grave?
It
says,
let
go
and
let
God.
Thank
you.