The Aberdeen Wednesday Night Group's Soberstock Roundup in Aberdeen South Dakota

My name is Clancy, Emma's London. I'm an alcoholic
and I'm very glad to be here this evening at Sober Stock 3. There's a girl in our group or musical organization LED off Woodstock. Originally they were the first act at Woodstock and when I get back I'm going to tell her that I was at Sober Stock 3.
I know I'm glad to see everyone here, all the people back in the Half Measures bar sitting back there. I really enjoyed our first speaker. I've heard him speak several times. I always enjoy hearing me as a He has a splendid flair for visual imagery that I enjoy very much.
Intelligent, perceptive. But there's something I must say when I was a young man in a when you were growing up in the Bronx,
stole my car. You know, that's when you're growing up in the Bronx.
I was already sober in Los Angeles, struggling to become a better person. And in my early years, my, in the 1960s, I worked in radio and television in Hollywood. I was a promotion director for Channel 9 in Hollywood. And I, another guy and I created something called Boss Radio, became the number one Hard Rock station in the world. And we just all were slick and everyone around us was Jewish. Everybody was Jewish
and the business seemed like then later on through a guy, a sponsor named John Frankenheimer got into some movies. There was a bunch of movies surrounded by Jewish people. And Los Angeles has a large, a large population of Jewish people, right? Alert, receptive, but Jewish people,
and I'm glad I enjoyed, really. I have what's called a Yiddish cop I, I enjoy working with it. However, I am from up here and I'm a Lutheran, and I'm so glad that now at last you're here where I'm in the majority.
Jesus Christ, why don't you get out of here?
And I've talked about this, I've made, I've said this, I think a bad ex something like this, that, you know, I, I have kind of reputation for being cynical and kind of slick and I'm, I'm not at all. I'm down deep. I'm a I'm a Pussycat. I really am. But I,
I was thinking, just thinking tonight, if, if I had, if the doctor told me I had one day left to live.
That almost happened recently, by the way. But if I had now I, the Doctor Who had one day left to live, I think if I could, I'd come to here, come to this. I wish this procedure would be going on
and I would like to sit there while John did the raffle for the cowbell.
No lap if you wanted to make that last day seem like forever.
But I had to get up. I had to get up at 4:30 this morning to catch a plane out of Los Angeles at 6:30. So I'm really off the top of my game. I'm kind of soft and gentle and I, and it was kind of a wasn't a bad trip. It just was a Northwest Airlines trip, you know, which is that hideous little thing, mosquito. You fly from Minneapolis.
The stewardess, I guess they don't, they call them flight attendants now, but the steward is kind of a she must have had a hangover. She was solid and but it wasn't a bad trip. I'll tell you a bad trip.
While back I spoke in Reykjavik, Iceland, which is about
tooth 1000 miles beyond any lengths and
the only thing good about it. They're all, they're all descendants of primeval Norwegians, and they have a kind of a bastard Norwegian language. And nine MC
and
I try to worm, worm my way into their warmth. And on the way back, it's a long trip. You got to fly air, Iceland air. Yeah. I blotted it out in an effort to stay sane.
Iceland air to Minneapolis, then take your domestic airline. I did that and I sat in Minneapolis on Sunday night, just tired and God had been a long trip, but I had to wait 4 hours for a plane to Los Angeles and I was sitting on the red carpet room, which is the frequent flyer room for United Airlines
and had to go to SIP. Went to the washroom, a nice little washroom there, 2 little stalls side by side, little doors and I sat one of them just doing my business and
sitting there thinking I'm as well. Not much longer. All of a sudden, the voice comes from the other side, says hi there.
I'm not a senator. What are you talking to me about it?
I'm sorry I said that.
I remember one, one time in 1962,
a guy was listening to a guy talking Los Angeles who is a very vociferous, opinionated guy, and he got upset. There are three things we don't talk about. This was during the Kennedy administration. I guess he says now three things. We don't talk about, Dave. We don't talk about sex, religion or politics because it's such a polarizing thing. We don't talk about those things. But I do want to say a few words about that damn Catholic president screwing those girls.
But anyway,
this voice said hi there and I, I think I'd just tell her, just tell her that I presume, the boy said.
What are you doing tonight?
Not that I better quash this now. So I'm going back to Los Angeles to see my wife and my children and my grandchildren and my great grandchildren. But thank you very much for asking. I thought that should do it, but it didn't. Long pause. The voice said we could really have some fun tonight if you wanted to. And I was tired and I was a little stressed. I should over. I overreacted. I said, look, I don't know what your problem is. For God's sake, get off it. I'm not in here to listen to your damn nonsense.
There's a long pause and the voice said. I'll have to call you back. This asshole the next door won't shut up.
That's a recall a bad trip,
but it's always I always enjoy listening to you speakers such as tonight and other speakers who are talking about the program because it's so odd how we come from such diversified places and diversified backgrounds. I came I couldn't come from a more opposite one than a big city Jewish family than small town Norwegian Lutheran family and I was surrounded by security by and was raised there became a good student. I I learned to sing little songs in
like it was confirmed and catechized and and I lived in a very strict structure and I was shoved to head in school because I could read fast. And my dad was a teacher that everybody respected in town and I just had a perfect childhood and same same rooms doing the same thing. Who can judge such a thing? I'd want to blame my alcoholism on that good behavior.
I guess I'll have to. You never hear anybody. Now you get upset.
I come from a mafia home.
So if I came to a good Christian home and shit, what happened? I don't know. Yeah, in my years, in my thousands of dollar investment in analysis,
psychoanalysis, some years later when I went to see what had happened to be one of the things that stuck out. And I believe this to be true too. When I was about 12, I was a straight A student, doing well and doing fine, everywhere secure, felt good. My parents got a divorce. Now, what's the big deal about that? All kinds of parents get divorced. Can you imagine that at the age of 12, I had never heard of a divorce?
Nobody in our church ever got divorced. Nobody in our family ever got divorced. Never heard about it
and all of a sudden here my mother and father separated. Of course someone explained it to me and I understood it, but I understood intellectually. But I felt put upon somehow and I almost instantly I have a flare for doing the wrong thing. I guess because it wasn't certainly given to me. I had it all along to almost instantly do the worst thing I could have done. In retrospect, I could see that I began playing my mother against my father to avoid discipline.
My mother give me hell and run to my father. My father give me hell and run to my mother. Both gave me hell. I'd run to my grandma
and I fooled him again and again and again and again and again. But I was 15. I was flunking out of high school. I had few of any friends that become a smart aleck, cynical, nasty little snot.
And I was really on the way to some bad end, I'll tell you.
And what saved my life is the Japanese bomb, Pearl Harbor. And I got interested in more movies. I'd go to war movies. I still have many friends because I was always making smart remarks and cynical remarks. Nobody wanted to be around me much I guess
there was a war movies that suddenly struck me if I could become a war hero I would really be something. So I one day I told my mother I want to go to Superior WI to visit my aunt and she packed my little bag and gave me a bus fare and the guy gave me a ride to Minneapolis and I decided to hitchhike to San Francisco to get the war and I never hitchhike before. I lit a very secluded life even and I said well stand here.
So I stood there in my
and the car stops right on kid San Francisco. So am I hop in and the way we went,
he's going back to a ship. Here's the Navy. I don't know why he picked me up just out of some had to be a St. all the way across the country. He bought my meals and at night there's no motels. You'd stop in a trailer court, you'd get me a bed and he'd listen to my prattle and I didn't think anything about it. I just I never hear I just thought that's what it is when you hitchhike, you tell him where you're going. They get you there food. I know and we I told him I wanted to be in the Marines and go over there and kill Japs and he said well kid, you're a little small. I was about this big and face full of pimples and
he said I don't think you have a little have a little difficulty in the but I'll tell you what they're crying for people in the merchant marine. I mean, all the good guys that go out in the Navy and you might be able to get into that.
I'll show you where the Coast Guard office is and go in there and tell him when we get there, you tell me you're 16, you want to be in the merch Marine. And I said, OK. I remember the morning, one of the golden moments of my life. I, I think about it. He dropped me off at the pier in Oakland. It was a fog, kind of foggy. And I smelled the ocean for the first time. And he put me on a ferry going across
the Bay to Ferry Building in Los San Francisco.
Remember standing on the thing, It's just amazed. And all of a sudden, the sun started to come up and the fog lifted. There was San Francisco Spires coming out of the fall. Oh, God, a smell of sea. And I got to the Ferry Building and he said, give me an address on Market Street. And I walked up there with my little bag and I went and said I would have been the merchant brain. And I said, OK, fill out this application, kid.
I put down 16, as he told you. Well, you're only 16, kid.
We have to have your parents permission. So I took it on the block, my parents permission and they were so desperate that you should be Siemens papers right there. Temporary ones, followed them up with criminal ones. Took another guy and I down to the turned out to be Montgomery Street. I didn't know what it was to the union Hall and we had to sign a waiver for dues. What the hell that is Took us to the Embarcadero, put us on a ship that afternoon. We're on a load of torpedo warheads going to the South Pacific
and it really was fun for about an hour.
That's where the World's Fair was last year.
That's Alcatraz.
That's the Golden Gate Bridge.
After that, there's just nothing ever. And they stuck me in a room. They called it a cabin. People around here in Minnesota know what a cabin is. It's got logs in it. These are just a room with three of the worst type of people that any small, skinny, pimply faced Norwegian Lutheran kid can be with. And these people are called men.
What the hell are you supposed to be?
I could see there's a little tension in the room. I told him a joke that I was used to cover. Good and steady Halls
didn't go over there. Why'd you get your damn bunk there? You got that one? Shut up
I still bake remember that bunk and the ship was moving on as hot in there and these guys start talking and my God, I felt bad because I was a Sinner and I I'd want to be a Sinner. I don't but I seem to need more fun than other Lutheran somehow and I just. But I every time I sin I feel guilt. Yet I have such a flair for it. I mean,
but I had not remembered to keep the Sabbath day holy several times. I had not remembered to respect my mother and father and treat them with honor, and I had learned to say some dirty words.
But I lay in that bunk and I felt these guys start talking, and I thought, My God, I'm in a room with some of the worst sinners in the history of the world.
These guys had been in law in San Francisco for three or four days with a ship, and they'd done dirty thing after dirty thing after. I mean, I even at the age of 15 in Eau Claire, I'd had sex. But I've been apprehensive and I'd been afraid. I'd been alone and these guys were doing it. These guys were doing it with people,
I don't know what,
and I suddenly realized, of course they've all got black hair. Those are the Catholics I've heard about,
but it was kind of a difficult start and but anyway, a little short time I'd be. I finally had a job after a couple of days on the ship. I became the ship fool, you know. Hey kid, get out of bedroom dumb. We need a left-handed wrench.
Hey, kid, go up on the bridge. Tell the Catherine who needs some elbow grease.
These guys are drank every day and they drank whiskey. They weren't supposed to have it on the ship, but who's going to stop being all these were really any other era they had been pirates. You know,
I, I don't walk the plank, I suppose, but
they'd drink whiskey after their watch. They all had whiskey in their sea bags. And I was just shocked. To the best of my knowledge, I'd never been in the same room with a bottle of whiskey up till that time. Lutherans, Norwegian Lutherans don't do that. And one day one of these boobs turned to me, says, how about you, junior? You think you're man enough for a little snort? You shove that bottle in my face. And I decided to get that settled right then, once and for all.
I was going to tell him, you get that bottle out of my face.
You may not know this, but I'm a Norwegian Lutheran and I'm on to what you people do. I've heard about you and I don't drink whiskey and my mother and grandmother promised that I never would drink whiskey and I'm I'd want to be like that. Keep that whiskey out of my face. I was going to going to tell her that just demolish him because I just preparing it. He said, why do you think you're mad enough? I heard a voice say God damn right.
So I had my first drink of whiskey out of the first glove, but I ever saw it and burned my mouth and my throat and my stomach and my throat and my mouth and his shirt. Finally.
I'll get them out of the way then. I'm sorry to make sure
to this day I don't know, a worse emotion, a worse feeling than public humiliation, embarrassment for someone just makes you look like a nothing and there's nothing you can do about it.
I wonder just hit these guys as they laughed.
I I thought later there's something I could have done. I'm glad I didn't think of it. They've thrown me overboard. But it would have been cute. Was it lean over you? Yeah. Take that.
Just give. Give one of them. Give one of the old eye,
but all the way across the Central Pacific when nobody was around, every at least once a day at sea and one of these guys sea bag and take a drink of whiskey and I'll throw it up and I'll have to wipe it up. So they didn't know, but I was so desperate because I had this delusion that the reason they thought I was in non human non man, because I threw up that whiskey, the reason they thought it was a non match, I was a non man, you know. But we're coming into Pearl Harbor. They're digging up ships all around us. Very exciting. I'm down there the night before my 16th birthday,
taking a drink of that crap, and it stayed down. Then I couldn't breathe
and somewhere along there, suddenly I felt significantly different. I felt significantly better
now. I don't really remember this at all.
Guy gave me a tape of a talk I gave when I was three years sober and I remembered it then, and I'm now quoting that tape.
I can hardly remember where my hotel is for Chrysler
and I, I didn't realize that I had a great reaction to it. One of the problems in my life, it always seemed to be is that for one reason, I always felt different when I was a kid. I mean, although I did well, I always felt I didn't quite fit in. It's almost as though there was something missing in me. I didn't know what it was, but at a distance I could get along with a lot of people, but up close, it's almost as they look disappointed in me. There's there's something about me that I don't
grow on you. Somehow I don't fit in very well.
And I thought it's like, if you're going around, you're supposed to feel like this, to feel like this a lot. And Rag, I figured when I grew up it'll be all different. It wasn't different. But I know one thing that day, I suppose in looking back, although I never would have guessed it at the time
drinking have the drink Husky made the scale go away. First time in my life and I felt like men looked. I never realized that then either. I mean I had no knowledge at all Dumber than hell because I feel better. But in retrospect, I can see that does from you. And it was wonderful and I I didn't become a terrible alcoholic. I learned to smoke on that ship. You know, we talked about,
talked about, well, about smoking tonight. You can't. We don't want you to smoke in the building
or outside the building or anywhere else. Jesus. But I never, I never know where my family spoke, but I smoked and puked and smoked and puked one day I smoked and didn't puke and I smoked 2 1/2 or three packs a day every day for the next 40 some years. And I, I love smoking and I would be smoking now if. But
now here's a sad story.
In 1985, at the International Convention Montreal, I was in charge of the field flag ceremony
where countless nations moved in and had an intricate ballet where they marched and dipped their flag. Guys, they were so beautiful and they so dummies couldn't do it. And one guy from Poland almost killed him. He just stupid. I didn't judge him. I just wanted to kill him.
But we're rehearsing in this big stadium before and they had no PA system
and I had to scream my instructions at him and I blew out my voice and got very hoarse. I got back to Los Angeles and it never got better again. So I had to go to a doctor and he said, well, he said you've blown out your you got a really a growth in the bottom of your vocal cords. It may be very, very intense, dangerous for you must operate almost immediately. And they want to put me in. Operator took out a third of my vocal cords
and my voice used to be clear and nice. Not
And I think about that because for five years my doctor had been saying to me,
for you to smoke is to die. Yes, I know it. I'm going to quit, doc. I really am. The doctor said to me, you know, smoking didn't 'cause this problem with your vocal cords, but if you smoke and irritate that you could go mute.
Never smoked again after that. But one of the great problems in smoking and I it's a, it's getting really bad for smokers. You know, wherever you go in any country, in the city, in the country, maybe it's an even in Aberdeen,
you drive down the street on grainy nights and there's people outside.
Are the businesses in the daytime outside? And I don't read that, but people think they have the right to come up to you and denounce you for smoking strangers. You know, why do you smoke? Don't you know the harmed second hand smoke does for people?
They were doing that when I was smoking. I took me 5 years to think of an answer
but answered I had to quit smoking so I'm going to bring it to you smokers here tonight. There is an A a meeting in the world for you to get this kind of information.
The next time someone comes up you says how do you smoke? Here's what you say.
Why do I smoke? I have a feeling one of these days they'll find a market for phlegm and I'll be rich.
They never ask you again.
And I learned drinking and smoking. I'd become a terrible alcoholic. It took me into Honolulu the next day and got me 3 bottles of beer that made me tipsy and made me feel good. And it's just something you learn as you grow up. You learn things you heard things make you like, the things you don't like it. I learned that drinking makes me feel good and sometimes I drink too much. It makes me sick. And, and I went on later on the war when I got old enough, I went in the Navy at the end of war is the Naval Hospital, Northern California. And they passed around some tests and I've always been good on tests because I read a lot
and I, I took a test and nice thing I thought, I thought it was very cute, but it really did be a lot of harm over the years because for some brother, it happened to just fit what I've read or something. And I got a very, very high grade, like 99 percentile
and the highest 1% of test takers, the United States Navy. And I wasn't that smart and I wasn't that socially aware, but I did it. So I get, I got a high school diploma out of that from Armed Forces Institute. And from then on I carried if it takes these boobs all over their time it takes I can get by on 50% or whatever can get by with.
But I went back to Wisconsin and went to college after the ward got married in college, went out in the world. I won some trophies for the University of Wisconsin knowing out the world, became a sports writer, which to this day is my favorite job I ever had in the world because I like it. And
I got married in college. So this girl with flashing black eyes and black hair and just so mysterious, something you never see in the Lutheran Church. And she told me she is a Catholic. I thought, but I thought maybe you could overcome that somehow. And, and after I got working, she began manifesting the terrible behavior patterns of Catholics that I never knew about. And I never do a Lutheran boy that did know about.
But if you marry a good Catholic girl,
Olive, you're about to have a big family.
And she began turning out children with monotonous regularity.
I began a my second career a national distributor of small Catholics.
So I had to get better jobs and
I got it advertising and public relations. All these years I drank and I really enjoyed drinking is drinking breaks down the walls and my side of me. I'd makes me feel the way men look, although I didn't think of it that way, just out of something made me feel good and I smoked and drank. Grace Helen were World War 2 veteran on top of it just a
it's just great. I'll tell you if you had a new tonight we'll have a bunch of new people. I want to tell you something shocking. Alcohol is the best friend I ever had. I never had a better friend than alcohol. Friends come and go, lovers come and go, jobs come and go, cities come and go,
but on a few drinks is just
and everything is all right. That's you can do that anywhere in the world, not even realize that it's something unusual. Just
I've often thought about that sometimes. Sometimes we wonder if people are Alcoholics or you maybe have a friend you wonder if they're an alcoholic. Here's a test I've created to help you
get them to stay sober a week and then give them a big drink to hear. Drink this
and if they say.
You're in trouble, Jack,
but alcohol is the best friend I ever had. The only problem I ever had, I would tendency sometimes to drink a little too much,
where's my psychiatrist pointed out later. I have many times been thoughtlessly over served
in addition to being confined psychologically by the Norwegian Lutheran Church,
in addition to being being raised during the depression. Didn't even know there was a depression, but once he explained it I could see how to discard me.
I had a lot of things,
and sometimes I drink too much and then I act bizarrely. The psychiatrist says that's because you've been so repressed you're breaking loose for the first time. Sounded right to me, but I tried to convince several arresting officers of that.
So somebody said, why don't you go to this new thing in town called a A some of the Old Town drugs are getting sober. They're not staying sober. At least they're cutting down. So I went to my first day meeting went went to a room, 7 or 8 fat guys sitting on the table. What the hell you're in here?
Well, it was like being right back on the ship.
I know, I know know why? Because I was 22 and look, 22 and in that state of Wisconsin wasn't anybody less than 40 in A at that time, you know, just like somebody 12 coming in now say I think I'm an alcoholic. Do you I think you got a broken nose. You know, I said I some people suggested I come here. Do you think you're an alcoholic?
No,
Hey, what the hell do you think is wrong with you? Now try to be honest with I think I'm a little too sensitive.
Listen to this, Earl.
Well, I never said that again for a long time. I'll tell you
when I went to A for a while. New people here not just take long to learn about A. A. A is a place for Alcoholics. Go. What are Alcoholics? People who drink too much, They become alcoholic, they have a problem. They come to the aid and admit they're a problem. Then they return. They return to God and live happily ever after, I guess. And none of that is me. My problem was not really alcohol. My problem is all sorts of things, emotions and feelings and feeling different,
and alcohol helps me overcome them. That's what alcohol so good at. It seems to the scale goes away and I can be something I can do things I can't do when I'm sitting so obsessed with myself and so obsessed with my what I should do next and what's wrong and what I can do about drinking gives me some fluidity, I guess. And I
alcohol. I wish alcohol were my problem, but it isn't and didn't take me long to discover that Alcoholics are people who can't quit drinking. Mr. I can quit. I can quit anytime. I quit
then and thereafter. For years I've quit and quit and quit. My problem has never been I can't quit. My problem is after I'm sober, a day or two or three or sometime a little longer, someone seems to sneak into my bedroom and put an invisible spring in my gut,
and the next morning when I get up they start to tighten it
and a dozen commodities. I need alcohol because just
little growing restlessness,
just little irritability. Just a little tired of taking this sermon every day for what I used to do Just a little. Just like watching the world slowly turn from Technicolor to black and white.
And I've tried. I can't tell you how much I've spent and things I've done to beat that. I've gone to psychoanalysis for thousands and thousands of dollars. I've read books, I've done tricks, I've done all sorts of things. But I'll tell you how you cut that feeling. You take a couple drinks. That's how you cut it.
There's nothing wrong with that, except unfortunately, sometimes I drink too much. Sooner or later then they say, see, your problem was alcohol, wasn't it? You have to say, yeah, I guess it was, but you just want to shriek. No, it wasn't. I don't know what it was, but it wasn't alcohol. Alcohol help me. I got to find some way to control that. It's like modern man. I look back like modern man trying to control Atomic Energy
and every once in a while there's a little Three Mile Island, you know, got to find a way to avoid that.
And probably one of the most interesting things in the book, You know, I've read the book when I first came to a, a guy told me to read the book and I read it. And I'll tell you what my reaction was. This is terribly boring. Some years later when I came off Skid Row, they had me read the book again. And this time I found it. It was even more boring than I remembered.
It's just, you know, I had been busy writing successful advertising and television commercials and take this action and do this thing blah blah blah, going to the catering truck and cursing at that son of a bitch and that
and what you're looking for action a just read and read if you are thorough distinguish of your development.
One of the things happened reading the book in retrospect, I never discovered. I never realized my stories in the book. I've read, read it and heard it read and never paid any attention to it. When a sober while one night I was listening to some boob read chapter 3, which they do in our area some of the time. Now you know when you hear reading like chapter 5 as interesting and valuable it is to us, but when you've heard it around 5000 times, maybe
you don't really hang on every word anymore. For earlier, we see the person. Let's see how that thing is going to work. Let's see what this is. Maybe I should make that call. God could and would have sought.
Yeah, that's good.
And somewhere there was off my feed that night. So I was listening to Chapter 3.
And much to my surprise, it was my story. If I'd have heard that when I was new and paid any attention, it probably wouldn't pay any attention at all. But I but those who are new here, you wonder, We say we're all the same. What way are we all the same? Look around you. Different sizes, shapes, colors. There's nothing we have in common. Different backgrounds, different histories.
Our first speaker took dope. In my era, we didn't even talk to people who took dope.
I talked to him now because I've learned to do that. But I
I must say one thing with the speaker, though. I must I got to say this. It hurts me to say it, but I've known him for many years and he was getting a little pudgy
and the sickness he's had has reduced his weight down. He looked, I've never seen him looking better. How could I get a just a small dose of that sickness?
The but chapter three, one of the things they say that what do we have in common if you're an alcoholic like us? Here's one thing, somewhere along the line, all of us have voluntarily or involuntarily, and certainly without knowing it, accepted the obsession that somehow someday I will control and enjoy my drinking,
he says. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Just knowing I I I can't go without trick. I got to find a way to do it.
And so we continue to fight the term alcoholic because we must sustain our ability to drink. And then we have occasional brief recoveries. We've all had brief recoveries. You think that's it? When I eat before I go out, that's it. I'll eat before I go out and get and line my stomach. And then eventually it'll just learn just you just puke more. That's about all. Yeah. Just bad. Followed always by still worse relapse
than that Dale delicate dainty little phrase in there, reaching a stage of pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization.
I just think that's how drunk these poor people get. That's what that means at all. That's how you feel after you get sober again and people want explanations from you for your behavior. And there aren't any except to say leave me alone.
And we tried dumb little things like changing from one kind of booze to another or drinking beer. Only everybody's tried that, I'm sure. Drinking natural wines, taking exercise, reading books,
getting his spiritual movement, Taking a trip, Not taking a trip. I've tried every one of those things except one. I never tried not taking a trip.
I believe when the heat is on, only cowards stay around,
move it out. That's why all my children were born in a different state and all have different.
I never knew there was any, but I always knew my case was different. That's the other thing I think we come here with. I've never met an alcoholic who came to A who didn't secretly feel his case was different. And we all have good reasons for it and a superficial level. Our cases are all different, that's true. But he doesn't tell you been here a while and get down a few layers that you realize what we have in common. But I went in and out of a A for the next. Every time the heat was on, I went to A till the heat was off.
And this went on for years and finally I went down one more time instead of bouncing back up it all went my family left my home left, they took back my car. Tracy Lock, big advertising against you in the South that I was going to make my big comeback and I cost them a big account and I was in deep trouble and I had to get out of Dallas quick. And the guy said will you drive my car to Los Angeles for me? I said sure I will
and I drove it as far as Phoenix and got drunk and lost it. Never did find it. All my clothes, everything, my ID is in there.
Terribly upset about that. Drunk that night looking around the streets who couldn't find somebody said you better cool down guys, I'll screw you, try to be a cop. And he threw me in jail overnight
in the middle of the night. I was very, very sick and I had to vomit. So I went over the toilet and vomited. Turned out of somebody's bunk, but he wasn't in it. I mean, just that. Laid down a tile, put my cheek on the tile and slept asleep. The guy came back from wherever he was. I'm going to have a trustee. Found his bed full of vomit and drunken fools. Damn you. Damn you.
And although I didn't mean to do it, but he kicked my front teeth out,
that was one of the few mornings I was ever glad I'd been in psychoanalysis. I was almost instantly able to identify his problem.
I remember thinking this son of a bitch is overreacting,
but I didn't want to say anything to make trouble.
They let me out the next morning. Blood, vomit, torncoat, all of my clothes, all of my ID, all of everything I had in the world was in that car and I never have. I haven't found it yet
and I I'll tell you if you want to be a long term slipper as I was, let me give you some advice. I'm telling you how to do it. One thing, if you're really getting a bad shape and really look terrible, can't get in anywhere. There's always one place that welcomes you and a a club that is the only place in the world where the worst you look, the better they like it.
Oh, this one's mine, Fred.
So I,
I went walked over to the A club and hustled some old lady for a bus fare to Los Angeles. And
couple days later I'd, I'd, I'd run across if I didn't got it broke again. And what had happened was I had a guy at KFWB, which was a radio station on Hollywood Blvd. and I'd give him his start and he was now a big star. This was a rock'n'roll station that was a news station. But I called back and said, Jesus, Ted, I said I've had a terrible car accident. Now my teeth got knocked out. I'm waiting for a check. Could you help me? Oh yes, don't be able to come out on the bus to Hollywood Blvd. Come up this upstairs and see him. And he shocked what he saw me. Oh, my God,
give me a lot of money,
He said, well, I just feel so bad, but I rented a room and got drunk and had fun and wiped the blood off me and ran out of money. After a few days, I called him. I said, Ted, my check hasn't come, could you help me a little bit more? I said, no, I can't. He said, I called Dallas and you, you're a bum. Nobody down there's got any time for it anymore. He's burned everybody off and you make a fool out of me. Don't. Don't. Oh Jesus, Ted,
I'm so sick. You got to help. Please, she said. OK, you come to the back of the station, the alley back of Hollywood Blvd. Tonight at 9:00 I'll come on the fire escape. I don't want you to come up to the station
and I don't want to see again. I said, oh, thanks, Ted. I was out there in the rain. He came out of the fire escapes of hair. Now stay away from here. He threw a $5.00 bill that fluttered down into a mud puddle, and I crawled out and got a nice Ted. I thought I outsmarted him, boy. And a couple days later two big guys threw me out of a Skid Row mission. I said. And stay out of here, you mooch.
I translator. I'm not a mooch. Three years ago I was on the faculty of the University of Texas ads that I wrote the LC Del Mirage for. The board and company were running it. Very weak in life and time and serving post in New Yorker. I've had my picture in the New York Times for one of my achievements. It was really hard to explain these things in midair.
I started to say that old, damn old mission, The Midnight Mission, 4th corner 4th in Los Angeles St. Didn't know anybody in town except Ted.
Mouth was bleeding again, sick. Felt so bad that I know I had a feeling that I I couldn't identify, but I'm sure there are people in this room who've had it, and I identified not because I've had seen people with it. When you get to a point where you suddenly realize there's no friendly direction, it's all equally bad. No one's going to be glad to see you wherever you go
and that is a bad feeling. Now I better get to an A a club. I'm going to die
or a die on the street. I was worthy a club here pal, he said. Well there's no way club around here, not downtown. You have to walk out to Wilshire and Fairfax. Where the hell is that? He's well, Wilshire doesn't come down this Friday. I have to walk this hill to Hill Street and cut out a wheelchair and walk W till he come to Fairfax and on the left hand side there's a club.
I walked off. I went in the rain. I still vaguely remember that walking up Wilshire Blvd. turned out to be 7 1/2 miles. That's a long way to walk when you're sick. My mouth was bleeding
and walking up with this lovely St. full of these big stores and big cars going by and people pointing and laughing and at me. I got to this stupid club in the same old crap, the same old steps and the same old wonderful traditions and turn it over and live and let live and God
and I, I just got to get off the street. If I can just stay off the street till the stops are raining, I'll think of something.
And with this club that lurked around there all day, not try to stay out of sight. And that night there was a meeting that they serve cake. Before the meeting I had about four buns of cake because I could chew that
and they had a meeting on gratitude. Almost puked it up again.
Then everybody went home except a manager and I and he's, he says you have to leave Sarah. I thought I'm I'm going to die if I go out in that rain tonight. So I I try to put on my newcomer look that I'd mastered.
I'm a newcomer and I have no place to stay. And it's raining and cold. Can you help me, please? She said. You're lucky. A guy named Joe Quinn left a 49 Merc in the parking lot last summer. Doesn't run, but it's dry. You can sleep in there.
You want me to sleep in an abandoned car? So yeah, good dealer. Yeah, that's a good deal.
And I vaguely remember sleeping out of my mouth, bleeding and hurting.
Actually, I wasn't. The cub is Sunday morning. I had some cake and they had a spiritual meeting and I had to get up and leave because I can't bear to hear talk about God. Isn't that funny? People come here from all directions. So many atheists and agnostics come to A and the reason I couldn't stand here about God because I believed in God and I knew God existed and I knew I was going to go to hell because by this time I've broken all 10 commandments. And in almost any church, you don't come back from that.
And when they talk about God and God's love and I just, I don't want to hear that. I just don't even think about don't remind it. And I that's another reason I ache and can't help you. I can't return to God. I wish I could, but I it's too late for that.
And I hung around there. The manager of the club said, you know, during the week is what they have belonged to this club venue. This is not an all day for hangout, but you're such a mess. You probably die if you stay out inside the rain. So you come in here, but don't ask your way for money and then your smart remarks. You have to go to a meeting every night in the club. I thought, oh God, nobody understands. Sit in these meetings and listen to these half wits talk about how wonderful they are, just like Scott was talking about to hear their miracles and victories. And I just, my, I've just become president,
all this crap and think I wouldn't even three years ago, I wouldn't even hire you to mow my lawn, you son of a bitch. And I you treat me like dirt
and I have no idea that would be my sobriety date. Didn't want it to be. Had no desire for it to be ever had no desire for stop drinking. You know the third tradition that we read tonight, The only requirement for membership is designer subject. I know desire subject at all. None. I had stopped drinking once and I had a good reason. I used to go to jail every so often overnight, not to have a big felon. But when I get to a certain stage of drinking, I have a tendency to counsel police officers
and point out their fascist pig attitudes.
So I've been thrown in jail off like about them. I got so I could go out in the morning, take a shower and go to work, handle it. And I come out one morning sick. You know, I felt bad and I want to get home and get cleaned up. And a friend of mine was waiting for me. So you should have stayed home last night. Oh, yeah, I know, I know. But it's just this cop, this settlement, which I, you know, he's bad man. And I, it won't happen again. He's no, he should have stayed home because your little son died. We couldn't find you anywhere,
and I had a bunch of little girls and a little boy. I'll tell you, he was the idol of my eye. And that made me feel as bad instantly as I've ever felt in my life. I just couldn't stand it, almost.
And we went up to Wisconsin. I was working in Texas, buried him, had a funeral for him. And I put my hand in his little casket over his look, I said, John Emerson, this will never happen again. I promise you. Never again. I'll dedicate this to you. And I went back to Texas
and I felt very bad for a little while, but I had a couple drinks that tied me over. Then I thought, I can't do this. And I stopped drinking and I told everybody to stop drinking. And I came home at night and my kids and I, every meal we said a prayer for baby John. And we all, it's like Easter. I mean, somebody had died, but he died for our sins. And we all felt, I think the next three or four weeks, maybe the best three or four weeks of most of my life. Unfortunately, someone snuck into my bedroom one night and put an invisible spring in my gut.
And the next day it started just a little restlessness
and I got thinking.
I know I haven't been the best guy in the world, but I've done pretty good All in all. And this God who I've tried to be nice for has taken my little boy who never committed a sin in his life and killed him to punish me. Well, screw you, son of a bitch. And I was. And that was the end of God for me.
But it got worse attention got worse. Every appreciate. I hated my job and hated that town, my daughters who was doing it for Mary. Take your sisters and go to your room for Christ's sake. I'm sorry. We'll play tomorrow. Just hate myself for being there. I just couldn't do if I could only have a couple drinks. But when you promise your dead son you can't drink, you don't drink. And one day my wife took the kids to mass and I pulled the car in the garage and hooked up a hose in the exhaust pipe and turn the motor and went to sleep and died. I just didn't know what to do,
just beyond belief. And a neighbor next door happened to be sitting to his breakfast nook having a cup of coffee. Tell me go in there and heard the motor run and I didn't come out and you ambled over see if I was OK. And he found me dead in the car and they pulled me out and beat it in my chest and breathed my mouth and rushed me to the hospital, examined me disturbing a seriously mentally ill and confined me to the state insane asylum for an indefinite period. Now that's how I get when I stop drinking.
There's no goal for me because drinking is not the problem. The problem, somebody getting their handle on it. I've often thought about that, but nothing of my commitment paper said alcoholic at all. It says schizophrenic,
paranoid tendencies. I would like to go back to Texas, somebody and find that psychiatrist. He must be about 90 now. I could move him around pretty good. You know, as you ought to lose your license. Diagnosing me as some sort of dual personality you idiot.
If I could add my press downloads down to two, I'd have been fine.
My problem has always been this group that gathers in my head when the heat's on. Let's get out of here. I don't think we can. What do you think you're saying about us? I'm not sure yet.
I used to hear people who didn't say anything. I'm not sure the program's enough for me. I may need group therapy. Not me, but I want group therapy. I go for a ride alone in my car.
That's right. I never thought of that. Yeah,
that's what you're good about, Alcohol. Alcohol reduces it to 1 voice. It may be a bad voice, but it's one voice. Why don't you quit your job and punch him in his face on the way out? OK, but stopping drinking, Really, The thing that prevented me from stopping drinking is that I knew I was not an alcoholic. I could not return to God and I could certainly turn my life over to God.
Some of this other stuff was all right, but that's it was that's the basic requirements.
And why am I sober now? Because somewhere in those meetings this first week, I saw a guy that I'd seen in the movies.
I thought a movie star. A movie star
was a movie star. A rich man. I'll bet he'd like to have a new friend.
And I moved in and old Bob, he wasn't to he didn't want to be a new friend. And I I found out later he was the movie star at all, you know, But I'd seen him in the movies couple times
and later in the week I was having a terrible time. People were buying me soft food that coffee, but nobody is very coming through much and
they're a group of fanatics. You got fanatic here in South Dakota to Nazi a Nazis and fanatics. They got in my own group and I just hate it. They say things like better get a sponsor. Boy living in that car out there going to die, get a sponsor. So here's my chance. I moved in an old Bob the Actress. Bob,
I was admired your program. Would you be my sponsor? I said sure, but I watched you. Did I tell you? Oh, sure, Bob.
So I say he wasn't a big star, though. He'd been in three movies and I saw two of them, so I thought he was a star, but he wasn't. But he wasn't. They said he wasn't a very good actor, but he was 'cause he could act nicely at meetings and that took a lot of acting for him because he turned out to be a right wing fascist, a a pig of the worst sort. Just do this, Do this.
Why am I taking this crap from this guy? Because he was the only meal ticket I could see out of there. I found out later he didn't like me and I don't blame him. I don't want to brag, but I was the worst type of newcomer. There is an Alcoholics Anonymous,
and I know that. I've sponsored a couple guys like that, and it just makes you crazy when they come in the room and say hi. You just wish you had a rifle. Here's high and boom,
I'll tell you what kind of a person that is. It's a person who's been around a, a a long time, year after year, and knows all about it and gets drunk every so often and comes back and wants attention and hustles the new girls and goes out and gets drunk and this goes on and on. You can't tell her anything. They already know everything. It's just madding. But Bob tried to help me and he would talk to me sometimes he'd take me a couple times to a meeting, but I had told him, Bob, you know, I'm not really an alcoholic. I want you to know they're going in. I'm going to
try to do the right thing, but I'm not an alcoholic.
Where the Brentwood media he took about the Brentbury fancy meeting out in Brentwood and I had to disguise it. I wouldn't want him to think that I knew I was smarter than he was because then he I might lose him. So I'd always pretend to listen. It was nonsense. But one night without Ben, he said something that was the even Dumber than he usually said. He's talking to somebody, maybe me, maybe somebody else, I don't know, He said. As long as you think your problem is alcohol, you're going to die drunk.
Oh, Jesus, Bob, now I'm the way home. I said. What do you say? Things like that.
You make me look bad. Yeah, that's what this program is about. I'm not an alcoholic, but these people are their problems out. They need help. So their problem isn't alcohol. Their problem is alcohol. It shouldn't even be an A. I owe Bob Lights kind of hot out there in the set today. Were they?
I could always make him crazy in about two minutes if I wanted to,
and he gave me a long talk then and thereafter, most of which I was able to blot out,
but someone got through. It really has been a cornerstone of my life ever since, although I didn't know at the time, had no idea. He said, kid, the problem is not alcohol. If the problem is alcohol, there's a way to beat it. What's that, Bob? He says you quit drinking and you clean up your act and that doesn't work. Bob, I tried that 1000 times. That's right. I said your problem isn't alcohol. You got some apparently, like me. It sounds like alcohol is the alcohol.
What could that be, Bob? So there's something called alcoholism. Oh Jesus, Bob, don't play word games with me.
I looked terrible, but I'm smart. Look, alcohol. Alcoholism. Hurray, I'm cured. I'm cured.
Shut up, he explained.
He said there's a big difference here, kid. Overcome alcohol, my stop and drinking and this strange thing called alcoholism, which unfortunately for you and me, looks almost exactly the same to the naked eye. This mind consuming, perception distorting, bodily eroding thing called alcoholism. You'll discover sooner or later that stopping drinking and cleaning up your ACT has no significant long term effect on your life other than to gradually make it so painful you can't stand it.
I said Jesus Bob, I never heard anybody say that before. They all say stop thinking is going to be better, said Nah. For people like us, stop and drink. It makes it worse. Oh my God, Bob,
Then why do these Alcoholics drink when they notice it eats them up? He said. They're not drinking because it eats them up. Kid, you don't seem to know much, he said. You've been around day all these years, you don't know much, he says. You understand that an alcoholic is the person who gets an unnatural reaction to alcohol.
Yes, I know about that. It sets up a phenomenon of craving and they can't stop and they drink forever and ever said Nah, that's podium talk. The unnatural effect on alcohol. He had a Coke in his hands is simply entirely different.
He should arrive a couple drinks.
It almost instantly alters my perception of reality
when I have a few drinks. That almost instantly changes my relationship to the world around me.
Well, I have a few drinks.
It's almost instantly makes me tolerate more self-contained and them smaller and less threatening.
I said. Jesus, Bob, what's wrong with that?
He said. Because it is not really happening, you moron,
is that you'll drink whenever you continue to drink and maybe phenomenally, whatever it is, but you got a drink till you have to get sober. Yet
I said, huh, Well, if that's the case, Bob, now these people know it's doing bad things to them. Why would they drink now? He said, that's the other part of it. You don't seem to understand much. Kidding. He said people, people are born and grow up. This is a lot you have to learn to be a kid or a young person growing up. You have to learn the kind of problems you got to deal with and conflicts you got to deal with. You got to learn, you got to give, to get. Sometimes. Some days you just eat a crap sandwich and swallow it, keep going and all sorts of things.
He says that procedures called maturing. If you become a mature individual and learn these lessons, you can live pretty comfortably. You can hold a job, get along with your Co employees if you want to
get along with your kids,
get along with the neighbors, go on square vacations and enjoy them.
But this never almost never happens to Alcoholics. Why not Bob? He's got We've discovered along the line when we have a meaningful problem we have to find a solution for or a conflict. We don't have to fight a solution. I can drink it away.
Here's to you, household finance.
I here's to you, bitch. I never like you anyway.
Hey, Mr. Carlson, take your job and shove it up your nose.
And it really works. But there's one thing I don't know. It sets up a little caboose that follows me everywhere, full of unresolved childish emotions. And when the day comes, as far it does come for most of us, I'm going to straighten out. I'm going to do this right. I'm not going to go all this drink and get in trouble anymore. I'm going to do this and never once know it's impossible for me because no matter how hard my determination is,
eventually someone will trigger those emotions.
Someone will hurt my feelings.
Someone will put me down,
some Lords make me feel bad and that starts the emotions. When I was a young man, I'd go both those people and punch them and quit the job. But when you get a family, you can't do that anymore, so you receive it. If you watch the pressure build, try to get away, to get rid of that son of a bitch, I could get even with them. It's over. And why said you leave me alone?
It gets pretty bad sometimes. Scientists say that people like us get to a point where you literally must drink to preserve your sanity.
And so I always drink eventually. Then it all goes to hell again. I don't know. Why did you drink? I don't know. Just leave me alone,
he said. That's why people always alcoholic. We don't, we don't do reality.
We drink till we have to get sober, then stay sober till we have to drink, then drink till we have to stay sober. Whatever they like. The period on either side of the equation. Jesus, Bob, I never heard anybody talk about that before. That's the story of my life in the last few years. I really have some big jobs. I really did well sometimes, but I always blew up emotionally or somebody made me feel.
It's just terrible. I got to drink to extend it,
he said. There's a name for people like you.
Oh, what?
What could it be, Bob? He said You're an alcoholic. I said, my God, if that's what an alcoholic is, that's what I am.
I can't believe it. Stop what I thought an alcoholic was. That was in December of 1958, long time ago. I was sober about six weeks and I came to believe I was an alcoholic, much to my surprise.
And to save my bacon. My life didn't get better.
I still he insisted I get jobs, I get fired off. And I still did a smart mouth that had no emotional stability. But one thing I knew I wasn't insane. I always secretly thought I'm insane. I knew there was a name for it. I'm an alcoholic, that's it, I'll go to. And I went to a meeting every night for years. I didn't know any better what to do. And little by little got better. After a while, Bob told me to do some things
I thought it were really stupid when I tried to do when they worked out and I something happened about a few months over that changed my life. I didn't even realize it for years looking back, but I hope it's happened to people here. I begin to get the feeling. I begin to get the sense that Bob knew how I felt, which doesn't seem like much, does it? But I had never known anybody that I believed knew how I felt. My dad didn't. My doctor did, my psychiatrist, they all said they did. We know how you feel. No, you don't know
feel. And he, he knew how I felt. And what's so good about that? I'll tell you what's so good about that is because people like us are magnets for advice from everybody that we know. Here's what you ought to do. Have you tried this? Have you read this debate? Passersby? I think you ought to go to rehab,
but if you can find somebody that you believe knows how you feel,
that advice becomes meaningful information.
I remember standing again one other night at the Brentwood meeting, one of the few times I was there, just a few blocks from where OJ Simpson didn't kill his wife later.
And we're standing there and he says, see that woman over there? I if I fear a beast, so I want you to apologize to her. Why should I? Someone told me the Monday night meeting at the club, you called her a bitch.
She is a bitch.
Why do you think she's a bitch?
She told her New Girl to stay away from me.
Well, she's right. You apologize. I can't think of a person in the world told me that. At that moment I'd have said not said to hell with you. I'm not going to base myself before that woman. She doesn't like me and she talks about me all the time. She's a nasty gusby, nasty your bag. And she tries to get rid of me and I say hell with her.
But somebody that I believed knew how I felt told me to do that and I found myself going
You bitch,
but he got me from then on to get got found me ways not to quit jobs and and to to get along a little by little long terrible process. But I finally held a job in my first year at the end of my first birthday for almost four months before I got fired. My second year I got a little job is beginning job and beginning writer in a medical corporation, and I determined to make my move, boy,
so I've got to get out of the thrift shot. Got me a couple suits.
Had no front teeth yet, but I learned to carry my lip like this.
They just thought I'd been burning a fire.
I'm going to make my move now this I'm going to be something and I work to work there about four first four days and she goes, I'm going to do this. And you know what happened to somebody hurt my feelings. I heard somebody say that guy has no front teeth.
I thought, for Christ sake, what kind of people can't you just let me at least make her do something right? And I thought about that guy. By the end of the day, I was ready to cover and punch him and quit. I was ready to go. I just, there's no way I could ever be anything again. The only thing that can be found. I promised old Bob I'd call him before I quit.
I said, Bob, it's son of a bit.
He said, here's what you do. Tell him. Tell him this kid, I said that won't work for this guy. He's a malicious, nasty bastard. Try it. So I know that guy nicely. Confronted him and he said, oh, oh, I'm so sorry I hurt your feelings. I didn't mean to. I admire what you're doing here. So I just mentioned that you've come from some tough place and you're really making a great move. And he became one of my good friends in that company. Probably the next year,
must have been 30 or 40 times I had to call Bob because my emotions were right on the edge. But he give me some action I would try to do when I was five years over as director of advertising. Shut up.
What time does this meeting leave for Minneapolis?
When I was
a director of advertising, that big corporation had front front teeth end. He used to smile a lot. Is there any of you new people have lost teeth? Let me give you hope. When you become spiritually pure, they grow back,
you know, seven years, Sobers, I missed you. I was in Hollywood, became boss Radio K Shea Television. I was 10 years somewhere. I was downtown doing public relations for an oil company, 15 years. So I was a marketing director in Beverly Hills
when I was five years sober. The same wife and all those children heard the crinkle of green in my wallet all the way to Dallas, leaped out of their post office box, rushed to my side. Nine months and 10 seconds later, another Catholic hit the street. Somebody gave me a book on the rhythm system. Then we ended all that
and they're all grown up. Three of my daughters turned. Three of my daughters turned 18 this year in Alcoholics Anonymous. I'm very pleased with all of them.
They don't deserve applause. They're lucky to have a good father
and I'm happy to say they got they got sober without any help from me at all. I'm so glad because I,
because you parents can't help you. I need to screw them up. Seems to me my other kids aren't. I have a son. The last child was a son. So I had a son again. I was so pleased. I've been a fan of his when he was a little boy, he and I did a lot of things together. We got high school captains football team. I flew back for a rose and ran the 10 yard chains every week. And and he went off to college, became a computer wizard and he and a bunch of guys sitting a think tank in Santa Monica and create games. They just finished Spider-Man 3 and they're doing all these big hotshot games
and he's an alcoholic and he won't do anything about it.
And he's, you know, 41 now 42. His wife has left him. He's about to lose his job. He's, I know, buddy. I've been around my, my whole house has been full of as long as I've been alive. I'm not like these people
and I tried to help my real I can't help him. And it makes me crazy because I sponsor people, a lot of people around the world, and I can't help my own son. And I know that because I've spent 30 years explaining to people that can't help their own son.
And so I pray for him and I don't even see him much anymore. I said it was XY divorce, separated with. I said Diana Clancy and I were so close. Why? Why does he want to see me? He's old. He said he loves you very much, but he never wants to see you when he has alcohol at his breath and he always has alcohol in his breath. What are you about? That you keep going. The only one of my children that really ever turned out wrong?
One of my my oldest daughter.
She's one of the girls in a but
she she's become a judge. We so much wanted a defense attorney, but no,
she came home at Christmas. Fears, you know, she said, remember Daddy, when we were little, girls used to send us to our room and holler at us. I said, yeah, but you understand why now marry your name. She's of course I understand, Daddy, But when you come to Albuquerque, I'm going to send you to a little room.
I have no need to go to Albuquerque.
But very quickly to get get out of this. When I came to believe I was an alcoholic, that was the change in my life. I could. I said it hundreds of times. I never believed it. And I think, well, Alcoholics, you might say, if you're new, yeah, you came off Skid Row, your teeth kicked out. Of course you're an alcoholic. That has nothing to do with it. That's just a fact of life.
I sponsor. I sponsor the guy that put the flag on the moon. I sponsor a multi $1,000,000 industrialist. I sponsor people in the movie industry. I sponsor guys who work on the street shoveling crap. They all got something in common. What? They weren't all thrown at the midnight mission. They all got to a point where they had to drink to stand reality and now reality. They can't stand reality and they can't stand drinking, and there you are and you're screwed.
But your mind says, but you're not really an alcoholic. You see, life is so miserable when you're sober,
knowing that that's market part of the disease of alcoholism
and it's just it's an interesting thing. As a result of that, my sponsor point out helped me to overcome my problem with God. I told him I couldn't return to God. He said you don't have to return to God, says you got to come to believe in something.
Can't you believe in a God? I said no, I believe I'd want to talk about God. Can't you believe in a A? It's all right. I don't like it as well, you know, since you think I'm doing better than you are. Of course you are, He said congratulations, I'm your new higher power
and I could accept that because he could not send me to hell, he would, but I could believe that I tried to do things. He said this result of taking actions over a period of time. By the time he died, I believed in a is my higher power.
I got another sponsor, very spiritual man, but he never told me what to do. But he showed me by his example. And one day I found myself praying to God because he had pointed out to me that day. He said, kid, you're not important enough for God to hate. That made me feel better
and I prayed to God. Over a period of time and taking actions, I came to believe that God didn't hate me, and I came to believe that God loved me as much as you. No more than you, no less than you.
And this each of us, I think very well said by Scott tonight. Very well. We all are in this together. And who knows why people get cancer and some people don't and some people have heart attacks and some don't. I know that there's a pattern. If I follow it, I will feel more at one with myself and with the universe. And I can't do it all the time because I'm a human being and I'm fallible and weak, but I can keep going to it. That's why I keep going to a A to keep that what edge I can get.
And I know that the third step, which was going to be my final step, I couldn't take turn my life over to God. How do you do that?
I rewrote it to say I'll try to do what Bob says, and I'll tell you that's the best thing that ever happened to me. So now it's been
next month, it'll be 49 years since I walked off Skid Row.
This is the signal for applause
because just people at the bar started love offering and move the baskets up in the back. But
there's one thing I want to say just for the fun of it. I don't know. I know we want to get out of here because a lot of us want to hurry, get back home, right? Probably got several blocks to go.
I don't want to miss getting back to my room and listen to the trains go through.
But sometimes new people say, how does it work? How does A work, How does it work? We have the answer to that right here, how it works. Rarely have we seen a person failures, but that's what they're saying at all. What they're saying is why does it work? Why does a A work? And I'm here to tell you if you're new, or if you're not so new, something you may not have known.
Nobody knows why it works.
Nobody knows why it works. Well, how can you do it if you don't know why it works? For very simple reason. I'll give you a good example. 1700s, the worst epidemics in the world were smallpox. Nobody knows what you can do but smallpox. You got it. And just like we thought about AIDS, you just wipe out 1/3 of a city. I have a book home called Bring out Your Dead. But Philadelphia in 1725, going through the streets with wagons, Bring out your dad,
you bring out your mother, your baby had just died and throw them on the wagon. Nobody, no, nobody ever heard of germs, ever heard of bacilli? Nobody heard of nothing. And it's just an absolute terror. In London there's a doctor named Doctor Jenner. And he wants so much to help these people and he devoted his life to, but he could find no answer 'cause they had no knowledge, of course. But he after a while ran across a funny little fact
that some girls who milk cows never got smallpox.
And yet here's some girls who smoke, smoke milk 'cause they got working right with him and they got smallpox and died. Why would that be? And he talked to each of them, and after a period I became another little maybe just coincidence. They all had had a minor disease that milk milkers got called cowpox
and red cow pox didn't get smallpox. But why would that be as silly? So we did one of the classic tests of all time. He bought a little boy named Jimmy Phipps, nine years old,
took him to Honda where these girls had cowpox some he'd know how to transfer illness. We cut a little slash in the kids arm and took some positive blood off their eyes and rubbed it in the kids arm and he got sick, got better.
Then he took him to where they're dying of smallpox,
and this time he didn't use his hand, he used a stick cuddle slash, took some blood and pus and rubbed it the kids arm. And he got sick and got better
and for the first time ever they knew how to stop smallpox. You get cowpox.
What didn't make sense? It makes people. What nonsense is that? Interesting thing, The name for cow in Latin is vacus. Vaccination means injection of the cow
and but most people did not accept it. Take one disease and get the other one. You're crazy. That's just a coincidence. But the people that took it saved their lives, and about 100 years later they discovered why.
When they had telescopes, and I mean microscopes and knowledge of things, they could look up and see that somehow or other the elements of cowpox stop. The virus of smallpox did not let it
go forth and so did stop it to this day is a variation of the same thing that keeps us from getting smallpox. And then they knew it. Oh, that's wonderful. But Doctor Jenner was dead. And so most of the people, all the people had fought against it. And I sometimes think that's the that's where a a is. No way, you know,
why does it work? We don't know.
Maybe 100 years from now, some scientists will come lurching out of the laboratory to
I found the answer.
It turns out that when a series of odd actions are taken under the direction of a cruel tyrant, it sets up a reaction in the upper cerebral cortex that makes it unnecessary to drink alcohol or use drugs.
Oh, Doctor Wonderful. You'll get the You'll get the award. You'll get the Nobel Prize. It won't help any of us. We'll all be dead,
but it's nice to know that some Bruno.
But where we are day to night is this.
We want to tell you new people,
take the damn cow pox,
take the damn culpox, because if you don't, you're a goner. There's no way around it. The last thing I want to say is the purpose of the A. A Eventually I went through the steps, made amends and did these things and did all the things talked about and my pursuit. It turns out the purpose of Alcoholics Anonymous is not to make you dry longer and longer. God, I'm almost 49 years dry. I burst into flame up here.
The purpose of a A is to very slowly do what alcohol did fast.
To change my perception of reality, to change my relation to the world around me. To little by little, make me taller and more self-contained and them smaller and less threatening.
And sometimes when you do this, it happens in a way you didn't expect. When I was 15 years sober, as I said, I was doing quite well as director of marketing for publishing firm Beverly Hills. And one day, in some bad way, something got in my head and I found myself leaving a job. A job. And for the last 30-4 years, I've been the managing director of the Midnight Mission on Skid Row, the place that threw me out in 1958.
And people say, why in the world would you give up this career for this run of this damn Skid Row place?
And there's no good answer to that. Well,
it was such a significant decrease in salary I couldn't pass it up.
I'm still trying to find those two bastards that threw me out. Once I get there, I'll be going
Monday morning. I'll do something and none of you will do. I'm sure I have to live up by the ocean on the West side of LA, and I'll get my car and go down the Santa Monica Freeway and my car still wants to get off at Beverly Hills. They wrestle it back on
down in the middle of the Skid Row big area of homeless death and destruction, parked by car under our building, and take a walk around the building and step over the bodies of men, women and children who are dying on that street from alcoholism and drug addiction and insanity and abandonment.
I'll go into the building and for the rest of the day, others such as me will try to find ways. How could we get these poor bastards to admit their problem, to be willing to take actions they refuse to take, to do things that'll bring them? We know an answer. They will not take it because we're not a treatment center. We're 10 grades below that. We're trying to keep them alive.
And then at night, I'll jump in my car and I'll go back out by the ocean
and to the best of all my ability, put it behind me. I'll go to an A, a meeting and share with people or listen to people shares. And as I did last night, Los Angeles what the Friday night men's tag and listen to people talk and just went home feeling wonderful. Now
that isn't anything I would.
As Scott said tonight, he never dreamed of his dream in the Bronx was not to come and talk in South Dakota.
Well, it wasn't our dream to have you come either. God damn it.
But here we are. And if you're new, you're just like us. Take the cowpox.