The OLANA conference in Virginia Beach, VA

The OLANA conference in Virginia Beach, VA

▶️ Play 🗣️ Bam R. ⏱️ 1h 13m 📅 13 Sep 1997
I'm a radical bam bam.
Love you more.
Can you hear me in the back?
First thing I want to do is thank Dwayne and the committee and, and, and the whole convention committee. It's an honor and a privilege to be here. I'm overwhelmed by this.
Yeah, Like you said, you called me up and he says, you know, we we, you know, started tape and I went wow,
police and I asked did you send to take them from
umm. I I like I like this. Actually, I'm not. I don't know why I'm nervous because I like this. I like having captive audiences. I want to be a rabbi once, that's how captive I wanted my audience.
One of the last things I do before I get up to speak, but I haven't spoken in a while, is again on my knees and ask the God of my understanding to speak through me so you could get a good message.
And and I got butterflies in my stomach. So hopefully sometime soon he'll kick in and you'll hear what you're supposed to hear tonight.
I, I don't see any fancy songs or, or, or read any beautiful poetry. No, I don't have, you know, this wonderful thing that I do while I'm up here. The only thing I do when I speak in a Narcotics Anonymous meetings is share my experience, my strength and my hope, the experience that I have through this program, the strength that I got. And I hope for myself as well as, you know, everybody, the hope that you hear a message and the hope that I can stay clean by listening, you know, remembering my story.
Don't talk a lot about drugs. I don't think there's a person in here who needs to hear about drugs.
I'm going to look for the steps real quick and that's just because I feel most comfortable when I'm speaking in the steps from front of me there.
The one thing I will do is I will tell you that I
A week before I got clean, I was at a point in my life where I didn't think there was anywhere else to go. I was feeling helpless and hopeless. Penniless, jobless, unemployable, unemployed, no friends, no family that wanted to talk to me. I
I ate where I could, slept where I could.
I found myself back in New York where I'm from. Not that you could tell by my accent
back in New York trying to work something out and the thing that was trying to work out didn't work out.
And I'm not really sure, I gotta be honest with you. I'm like the only, I'm the only person who has on on like a grand jury transcript that my brain cells are fried from drugs. You know, because after about a year and a half of being clean, they finally caught up with me for shit that I can. I say that for stuff that I have done in the past
and I have to go. In fact, I have to go to Maryland where Randy's from.
I'm saying, OK, I have to go to Maryland to face the grand jury. And when, when I had a year and a half clean for stuff that I had done like three years earlier. And when, when, when the when the Attorney General of the United States was asking me how come I didn't remember all of these things, I told him, I guess my brain cells are fried from the drugs. And that's actually been very transfers.
So I really, you know, it's like, I really don't remember a lot of things that happened the last couple of days.
I do remember that the last day I was out there,
I was all of those things and more, but I just told you about. And
somehow or other somehow, whether or not out of drugs too, but somehow or other, my sister came along in the old name, my old neighborhood, and she took me out to my mom's house and she was living in Long Island. And my brother got me up money to go back to Miami, where I was living at the time. And I had gone to Miami originally because I wanted to get away from the drugs in New York
and
and I went back to Miami. My brother sent me back on a you know, gave me plane ticket, plane money, got back to Miami and and I said, what do I do? And he had told me about this fellowship and he even going to for about 3 months for my Cox Anonymous.
I, I was so afraid that when, when I heard the name Narcotics Anonymous, because of all the stuff that I was into, that if I picked up the phone and called information that like, and I said the word narcotics on the phone, they'd be like, you know, the tree police would come and get me. You know,
the cops would be knocking at my door and, you know, I'd be cartered away, you know, because they knew, they knew. Everyone knew,
but So what I do is I looked in the phone book and I got to say, you guys part of committees, part of the service structure, part of service and Narcotics Anonymous. I am so glad that public information does its job because the number is in the phone book.
I'm so glad that, well, I'm an H and I guy myself, but
I'm so glad that, you know, like the 12 step people were doing their job before I even know what any of this stuff was because a guy called me back and he said to me, well, you're in luck. There's a meeting right down the block from your house in an hour, and I could be there if you want to meet me.
And I guess if I knew then what I know now about how many meetings really are where I was from and how often they hold these meetings, I might not have felt the way that I did. But when he told me that I was in luck, I really felt that for the first time in a whole lot of years, I was in luck
and that this guy could meet me too. Wow.
And I went to this meeting and I don't remember a whole lot about this meeting except that people told me to keep coming back. I wrote up to my first meeting on a motorcycle. My head was down to my ass.
I when
letters and boots and ripped T-shirt and red jeans.
That's funny. Only about six months ago. So I cut my hair.
It used to be part of my story, the way he was talking to me about this earlier that when he had to pay part of my story used to be, It's been this long since I got in trouble because every time I have to go to court, I had to cut my hair.
And every time I cut it like really short. And then I have to wait till it goes back again. And it was like 12 years into recovery and I was going, it's been this long since I cut, you know, since I got in trouble last. And about six months ago, it was like so hot. I was working and I was sweating, my head was bothering. And I folded up over my head and then back again, back again.
My neck was all sweaty and irritated and I just wanted my my, my old ladies, my young lady,
the hairdresser. So I walked into a shop one day and I said, look, you got to do something to this. And she said I could snip it for you. I said, I can't do it, you know, And she got sicker than I did. She cut it off like, Oh my, she was used to seeing me as long as time. And it's not that like it's like too, because
I'm still on, I still on the Harley and I'm sorry,
that's where I got my serenity from too. And I sold one of them about, I don't know, probably about two weeks ago I sold, I had two, I had a 70. Well, it doesn't matter, but I sold one of them about two weeks ago. I still have one more And but I don't dress in like the boots and the Leathers and I don't like colors anymore. And and somebody came over to me the other day, the conventional last month or two months ago, the convention said, didn't you used to be a biker?
I thought, yeah, sure I am, but I just dressed better these days.
It's amazing my recovery can do for you. Imagine what Lisa can do for me.
They told me that. My sponsor told me that you're always your your best when you're raw at meetings. And next week, Lisa and I get married.
Yeah, we've both done it before,
but I got some pretty well because I'm pretty nervous, you know, It's like this time I think I'm doing it for the right reasons. I actually like and love the girl that I'm with, you know, And there are no drugs there, so it's pretty cool too. But this is like, these are all just like, you know, things that have been going on with me. And, you know,
I'm gonna go back to, I guess it's a good thing I don't know this song because I probably sing along.
I'll get back to my first meeting.
I got to my first meeting. I pulled up on my motorcycle. I got off and I pulled off my leather jacket and I walked into the room and I don't remember a whole lot. I do remember that when I walked into a room, there's a bunch of people sitting down and they were like smiling pretty much like what everyone's doing here tonight. It was like, you know,
their eyes weren't glanced over. They want sunken back in their heads. They had, you know, like some life behind their eyes. And, and it was a bunch of people sitting in this room and I walked in and, and
I was 170 lbs back then, okay. And, and all of those things, you know, my eyes were sunk back in my head. I had big black circles underneath my eyes. I was like,
torn and tattered, you know? And I walked in and I pulled off my leather jacket and I saw this girl sitting in the back. And I walked over to her and I put my jacket down. And I said, can I leave this here for a minute? And she said, yeah, sure. I don't know what I did. Went to the bathroom, We got some coffee or whatever, and I came back and I sat down next to him
and I asked about, you know, what was going on. And she said it's a speaker meeting. You know, listen, I don't remember.
I was looking at horror or maybe concentrating on the motorcycle being out front or something. Who knows, But I was.
I was sitting down listening and I heard keep coming back. I heard work the steps or die
and I get a sponsor. I think that the girl also told me those same things and this guy Cliff, that it that called me back from the helpline. He walked in and he came out to me and said, you must be Gee, how did you know?
So So we talked for a while and, and afterwards they took me to coffee and we hung out for a while. And, and this girl that I had been sitting with, she pulled out a meeting less than and she said, well, this is the meetings that I'm going to be going to tomorrow night, you know, and
I went there. Keep coming back
and when I went to that meeting that night, I heard keep coming back or just steps or die and and get a sponsor. And then I asked the girl, I said, what meeting you going tomorrow night? She pulled out a meeting. Listen, she said this one and you know they said bring the body and the mind will follow. You know, I follow parts of my anatomy. I don't know about my whole time.
I just kept coming back and finally I did. I met this other guy and he pulled up to a couple of meetings on a motorcycle and it was something about like being new in recovery. One of the things I always looked at was whether a guy was packing or not.
I've lost that edge. Not that I really care to have it anymore, and I don't really know when it happened I lost that edge. But I do remember one time I was working out. I was sitting in my living room in our house. I have a weight bench right in the middle of my living room. I haven't worked back in about six months, but it's probably about six months ago. I was, I was, I was working out in the living room. I was laying down on the bench
and we have an upstairs that the staircase is right in front of the bench and
working out, just laying down on the bench, working out and all of a sudden I heard Lisa say bam and I'm working around and she said I'm up here, said when did you get here? She said, I just walked in a few minutes ago and walked right past you and said, wow, I lost the edge. You know that edge about knowing exactly what was going on everywhere around me. Who's packing, who's got it, who doesn't have it, who's with somebody who's single. I knew all of those things when I walked into room. I collect, you know, scan it out and know everything,
but I lost it and I don't care that I have it anymore, you know, because I don't plan on needing it anymore. But when I first got clean, that was just like inbred in me already, you know, like I knew it. I knew was a guy that used to come to to meetings on a motorcycle also and he packed. There was no doubt in my mind that he had a piece in his back
and I was OK because I had one under my shoulder for the first couple of weeks.
But they told me to find somebody who had what you wanted and asked him to sponsor you.
I think I was driving 1000CC engine and he had 1200 at the time. You know,
I
Assassin's response?
No, actually, I can just sponsor me. Things changed a little bit because now I've been going to meetings for a couple of weeks and I started hearing people say we're up to steps.
I heard my sponsor told me you got to work the steps. You know, like I remember going to meetings and I still used to see two posters up on a wall meetings that I used to go to. One of them had the 12 steps of Narcotics Anonymous. One had the 12 traditions of Narcotics Anonymous. Nobody ever told me to work the traditions. I figured I was halfway home. And then I looked down the steps and, you know, I thought it said don't do drugs, things will get better.
I said I'm done with that one on here.
Second one is something about God. I can skip that one. I wasn't much into God back then. Third one definitely said God, it's like a skip that one. Fourth one was talking about some kind of an inventory. You could forget about that. And 5th one was Shannon with somebody in that way, six and seven talked about shortcomings and character defects and perfect. So don't be down,
said something about making amends and nine steps said you doing amends, I think. Well, yeah, let me try these two.
I pulled up one of my exes moms and I said, Rosemary, it's me. I'm clean like a hot three weeks now. Things are better. I'm OK. I just want to apologize for ever hurting you.
And she said, you know, you're an asshole. You always were an asshole.
Wasn't exactly the response I was looking for.
So next time I went to a meeting I was reading those steps things again and I passed 8-9 this time and more inventory stuff 11. Meditation when you turned into a guru or something. Yeah, 12
helping override it. I'll try this one.
I was walking down the street in Miami and I was in front of a convenience store and there's a guy walking, walking the other way, smoking this drug.
And I walked up to him and I grabbed this thing out of his mouth and I told him all about this great program, that
talking.
I didn't exactly get the response I was looking for.
So I'm back to this guy who's carrying a gun and wearing the colors and riding a motorcycle and I said look, the steps don't work.
Somebody mean your steps don't work. I said look, this is my experience with the steps and I don't work. He said the steps are in order for a reason. And I said we talking about he said the steps are in order for reason. So what's the reason? He said because when they work on the way you try to, they won't work. So I fired them.
So find this other guy who's a lot bigger than me
and asked him to sponsor me. I think it made me, you know, this guy would know what he's talking about. I told them about my experience with the steps also and he told me the same thing.
This guy's a little bit afraid to fire because he was so much bigger than me.
I don't know why. I wasn't afraid of a guy with a gun. I was afraid of a guy was bigger than me.
I'm still friends with the first guy. In fact, he called me up like a couple weeks ago. He was coming through North Carolina, where I'm living now, and you want to know if you can stop by. But we weren't going to be there or something. So it's like the program really does like
program really does make some strange friendships.
Strange friendships. I introduced
my fiancees ex-husband
at a convention last month. He was a speaker and I introduced PSP to introduce him. And, and like, we're friends too, you know,
I was friends with him before I was friends with her. And in fact, he's dating a girl who was very instrumental. And he's staying cleaner in the beginning of my recovery, too, which is really strange, you know? So like the four of us were together and people were going wait a second.
Weird shits going on here.
My sponsor told me that the steps are in order and supposed to work at them and the way that they're written, you're supposed to work them in order. And he said the first one doesn't say anything about drugs. First one says that we admitted that we were powerless over our addiction and that the first step is broken up into two parts. So the first part talks about our addiction and that's the only thing that I have to make sure that I do every single day
step that I have to work on every single day. Notice stay clean.
The second-half and the rest of the 11 is how I recover.
Anybody can stay clean and work in the first half. For the first step, it takes working the steps, working with a sponsor in my opinion, working with an NA sponsor. Who's got an NA sponsor? Who's got an NA sponsor?
That's just my opinion and the views reflected here are not necessarily those of the management of the station or our sponsors.
People used to tell me that I was an NA Nazi. I'm Jewish. I can't be a Nazi.
So I told them I was a vigilante.
Says In our traditions, we must be vigilant.
I got a computer for the first time. I, I got this thing, I, it's got like, I don't know, 9 million megahertz, 400 gigahertz.
Why don't you get on to I can get onto like this, this, this Internet thing
and I got conferences there. Recovery. Well, you know, they say it's recovering conferences, but I haven't seen any, any conferences. I haven't been on them yet.
I want to throw that in.
I'm going to have an NA conference. Then I'll say they have recovery. No, I shouldn't say that. No, It's funny too, because I stepped towards. Well, at the beginning of one of our books, it says that maybe this is a bad time to talk about it, but hell, I'm on A roll.
Well, it says in the beginning that we're really grateful to some other fellowship for having charges in the way. And I think that's really great that, you know, like long ago we were. But, you know, as addicts, I don't think we have a borrowed anything. You know, I remember stealing a bicycle, painting it red, changing the serial number and calling it mine.
As far as I'm concerned, we own these steps. You know,
on the 1st after the first step we started, we were talking about addiction. And addiction wasn't necessarily drugs. Addiction could be any of those many things that got me into whatever it was that made my life unmanageable. It was gambling, it was sex, it was cars, it was motorcycles. It was the drugs for sure, but there were so many other things also. And it wasn't like put down the drugs
that I can start working in first after the first step and then I can start working on the addiction part of my recovery
when we got through the first half of the first step and he said it was time to work the second-half of the first step. And again, this is the way my sponsor worked the steps with me and the way that the guys that I sponsor, I work the steps with. But
so many different ways to work the steps. And as long as you have a good sponsor and, and, and if you don't, then get a new one. As long as you have a good sponsor and he works the steps of Narcotics Anonymous and, and, and you know, and you're working them with them, then whatever way he says to do them. And that's the right way. But this is just what works for me.
And we got this second-half of the first step. I thought that it said life is going to get better now. And my sponsor told me that it says life became unmanageable. You're still going to get flat ties. You still going to be late for work? You still going to run into assholes on the road? As a matter of fact,
I was working the second-half of the first step and my alarm clock didn't ring one morning. I was late for work. And of course the guy who manufactured the alarm clock was an asshole. When I got outside, my Milwaukee iron wouldn't crank. And of course everybody in Milwaukee was an asshole. And then when I finally did get to work and like on the way, people were cutting me off on the road. They didn't see, don't see something that makes that much racket and has its headlight on and
but they don't see motorcycles for some reason. But everyone cut me off. Of course they were an asshole. And when I got to work, of course my boss was an asshole for yelling at me for being late to work. And finally I just left there. I went home call response and I said, look, everybody's being an asshole today
When he said if you change your attitude that we want less asshole.
It was funny the way that everything that happened in my life happened when during the steps that I was working. It's amazing the way God puts things into my life.
We got to the second step after that and it says that we came to believe that a power greater than ourselves can restore us to sanity. Now my sponsor always told me that the 1st 3 words were one some of the most important words and that's that and you got to each one of them individually. We
then we came, then we came to
I can't do it alone, have to show up and I have to wake up
and none of those things apply for my using. I did it alone. I never showed up
and most of the time I passed out and came to.
Rest of the stuff was a lot easier to work on than that.
My sponsor always gave me assignments. He always gave me assignments to write. He always gave me assignments to read. You always give me things to do and it always matters that things that were going on in my life always seem to correspond to things that were going on in my steps.
Finished the 12 step. It was funny too, because when I got through all the steps, I didn't graduate. I didn't get a magic said. I'm recovering. I can't put a plaque on my wall that says
good job, you've made it. My sponsor sends me back to the first step when we start all over again
and each time I go through the steps I learn more about this attic and hopefully you know through that I can learn more about
all of yous. And hopefully, you know, you can keep me equally one more day.
We'd like to start that
that girl that was sitting in the back of the room and I were living together
and
I don't know, I just want to tell me I should learn the difference between my will and God's will.
And I went over to this girl one day and I said, you know, like I'm having a little problem with this. Can you help me out? What's the difference between God's will and my will? And she said, well, your will is anything that you want to do without asking anybody for help first. God's will is anything I want you to do.
Needless to say, we're not together.
But they're all four words in the third step that I think are more important than any other words in any of the other steps.
And I say this because the way I read it
everywhere I've ever seen it written, whether it's whether the steps are written in bold print in our text or on italics on our cards, those four words which are repeated twice in the steps are written differently
in our book. When I written bold print, those four words are in my colleagues. When on our sheets and our cards, we know the words are written in my palace. Those four words repeated twice are written in bold print as we understood him.
There's a lot to be said about those four words. Now, I don't know if you're into this gender correct bullshit or politically correctness. And you know, I don't know if you want to say, you know, as we understood God, okay, that's fine. But I think if you just take it
at face value that him is a term that people use
unilaterally, is that the word I'm looking for? For things that involve
magic or humankind
as we understood him.
It's not the God of my misunderstanding for my childhood. You know that gotcha God? You know, like you do something and your mother tells you do that again and God is going to get you. You do it again. You fall down a flight of stairs and she says see Guy. Gotcha.
Much like the God I grew up with. I got you, God.
It's not to understand. It's not, you know, like thank God I can come to a meeting in Virginia at the Park Robertson Hotel
and not have to worry about being a good Christian.
You know, nobody ever told me because I'm Jewish, I can't recover. Nobody ever told me that. Hell, if I was an atheist, I couldn't recover. Nobody ever told me that when I first got clean, I didn't even believe. Well, I shouldn't say I didn't believe that there was a God. I just didn't believe that he'd give fuck him up. Said that word again, didn't I? That he that he cared about me
because if you cared about me, why did he put me through all that stuff that I was going through?
So it's only been probably the last two years that I even say the word God when we do the serenity prayer for all of those years that I was clean, I had this understanding of a we understood God. The basic text tells us that he has to be loving, carrying and greater than ourselves.
And that's all I used for 10 years. But he's loving, caring and greater than ourselves. So that's the God that we understood in this room. And
that was so much easier because when I first got to the first step and I thought that I could work the first step and sits on my God and I know I couldn't do it. I would never have gotten it. But when I got to the third step and when I got to the second step was funny because I told my sponsor I can't do this step. He said, why? I said, listen, talks about God. He said, what is it talking about God? I said like that ourselves. Everybody says the power greater than myself that I call God,
he said. No orange stuff. Does it say God?
I said, well, I believe that a power is better than myself. Then he said you believe in science. I said, yeah, show me. He said something knocked you off your feet, put you on your knees. That was the drugs. Something brought you off of your knees and you're walking tall again. What was that?
Narcotics Anonymous, She said. OK, it's by weighted in ourselves and that's what I used for 10 years as the power greater than myself. The feeling that I get when I walk into a room anywhere
and I get hugs and smiles.
Front Rofer with black girls going. No, boy,
hey, that's I'm feeling, you know, I have a bunch of black girls sitting front Rd. going telling me go boy, you know, go white boy. Yeah,
that's a feeling. You can't get that anywhere else but in Narcotics Anonymity.
So for 10 years, the power better than ourselves that I used was this fellowship, feeling that that that fulfilling that I get from this fellowship. And that's what I used for like a lot of years until so like about two years ago, I guess,
when I moved on to my 4th step with my sponsor again, you know, we worked on it and I said, I don't know nothing about this thing. You know, if we're right in the searching, you feel, let me tell you the first he told me what to write. I mean, this guy told me what I should do. You know, he told me that I should skip the line between each thing. I should write only the people that were there and the thing that happened. I didn't have to write all the details. I just have to, you know, like I didn't tell me. But it wasn't. And, and no matter what I read and no matter what I saw, it wasn't searching and it wasn't furious.
Surely wasn't a moral inventory.
And a lot of the time that I was doing this footstep, I didn't even bother to write.
I would think of something and I'd be afraid to put it on paper,
and I'd walk around with that anger all day long and I'd yell at people and I scream and I'd be loud and obnoxious. Well, if some things don't change,
that's why I was doing sports that for a long time.
Finally, my sponsor said, why don't you just pray that it'll come out of your head, into your arm, onto the pen and then onto the paper.
And I said yeah, but then I got to fix up afterwards and I got to share that with somebody.
They told me if I've learned anything that you got to do the steps in order and that they each separate from the next.
I don't know. Help me out here. Can anyone do a four step but not know that they're going to do a fix up later? I don't know.
That's what I needed to do. I gave him the shot, but I can't tell you that when I prayed that it would come out of me and onto the paper and I'd be able to leave the anger and the guilt on the paper. It was a whole lot easier to do it. And I prayed and every day I prayed. And when I prayed, I wrote for like 3 hours straight and then I put it down and go to sleep.
And when I woke up the next morning, if I had nothing to do, which nearly in my carvery, I really didn't have much to do. Early in my recovery, I was like so unemployable
that I that my sponsor had a friend who owned an Italian restaurant. And he says, well, if you would just come in and stir this big VAT of sauce that we have with this giant wooden spoon that we have, we'd be able to free up a couple of people to do the real work.
OK,
So I showed up at this Pine restaurant, and the guy hands me this morning, says, there's the back. All you got to do is start it. I'll be back in an hour. And he left. And I looked at the bat, and I looked at this big wooden spoon. And I called up my sponsor. And I said, which way do I start?
That was a wreck.
It was a rash.
That's how bad things had been. So when I was doing this, 4th step was like the same thing. I just like, you know, things were like bad and I was carrying around and I didn't know what to do and I didn't know where to go. And I didn't, you know. And then I started writing. So I didn't have much work to do in the mornings, you know, I woke up. Yeah. I go down there and start the sauce in a little while, you know,
So I would pray and I would write, and then I go stir some sauce. Come home, go to a meeting Friday night.
I can make a chill of sauce these days though.
I I finished my 4th step now. I got clean about two weeks after this guy, Jeff. Jeff and I have been friends in recovery. We stayed friends, but he got clean like two weeks before me
and got the same response between. I hated that. And I was always like, you know, I thought it was like some sort of a race. I called them my spots. I said already. I said yeah,
let me make an appointment, do my 5th with you. And he said oh OK, when you want. I said let me get Saturday. He said when Jeff is coming Friday, I'll be the Thursday.
Can't do it Thursday, you have to come from Saturday.
I got on my sponsors house for Saturday morning and we started doing the fit step.
The funny thing about this fit step was that I had no plans on telling him everything that was in this book. So what I do is I copied some of the better stuff into another book
and I knew that I was going to bring only the better book with me.
And I have to respond to house. And I opened up. I started reading and oh shit, brought the wrong book.
Don't try this because you'll get jammed. God works in mysterious ways. See what
things I've added to my God since the days of being just, you know,
looking, carrying you're better than myself is that he's got a sense of humor and it never fails that he uses his sense of humor in the most inaccurate times, inopportune times for me. It must be great timing for him, but
this is always good for me. But I went over to my sponsors house and I started doing this fish step and finally when I finished I said look, I got to know something. I said my sponsor was RT. I said RT. In fact, he's still my sponsor.
Yeah, I got it. I gotta know, I said.
No. I guess Jeff like better than me or worse than me.
What kind of a guy is he? You know, like A
and my sons said, the only difference between you and Jeff is he did it with a goat and you did it with a sheep.
I finished my fifth step when my sponsors was trying to tell me was that we're all the same, it don't matter. It doesn't matter how much, how little. I think I read that somewhere too.
It doesn't matter where we came from. Might as well, we're going and we're all coming. We're all showing up. So I guess we're going in the same direction.
It didn't matter what kind of drugs I did, what kind of drugs he did, and the matter how much pain we inflicted on ourselves or on other people. Didn't matter how badly we prostituted ourselves because we got to do what we got to do. And I'm getting it. And once we get here,
we can do it first half of the first step and stay clean. We can do the other 11 nap also and start to recover. I haven't tried recovery. I haven't liked it a whole lot. I don't reckon I got no reason killing nobody,
finish my fixed effort. My sponsor been writing while I was doing my fix that he'd been writing all these things down. Things that I have to work on, shortcomings tied to defects.
My sponsor did split up to six and seven staffing, but I'm not going to because what he did was he gave me assignments. He gave me a bunch of assignments that he wanted me to start with the first one and do it for six weeks, but after two weeks, start on the second one and do that one for six weeks, but after two weeks, not on the third one.
And he had all these assignments for me to do. I didn't understand a lot of these assignments. One of them was do something nice for someone and don't tell them why you're doing it.
This meeting every day and not wait. That one was
he told me to let me do something. No, first one, do something nice to someone and not tell him why you're doing it. So what I used to do is I was right on my motorcycle and in Florida they had these toll boots,
you know? OK, well, when you're on a motorcycle, there's those of you who ride. No, you can go to the far right, to the far left, miss that little bar in the middle,
and I never pick up on it. And you just go on by. Sometimes it's only a time, but sometimes you save yourself $0.50 for a dollar.
Plus I got clean. I figured what I would do is like, I can't really go back and tell them, look, let me give you back all those 50 Cent pieces that I stole from, you know. But what I did was I went up to the booth and I would like hand the lady 1/4 or whatever it was. And I'd say, and also this is for the car behind me and then I can sit and take off.
No, I'm having some fun with it. I started waiting to see if there was like some girl driving the car behind me and like
her boyfriend sitting next to her in the car with her.
And now I was with head down to my ass leather jacket and I was wearing colors and I had my boots on riding the motorcycle. You know like my hands up here. I pull up and I give the lady $0.50 and he's enough $0.50 for you
for the call behind me. And I take off and I take off real slow and I'd watch him my side view mirror and you can almost hear the guy saying and where the hell do you know him from?
Let's not have a little fun with assignments. So after like two or three weeks of figuring them out, they didn't seem so bad anymore. There was one that he told me to find somebody that I honestly disliked. I say something honestly nice to them.
That's ridiculous. I don't like you. You're going to know I don't like you. But he said this is what you got to do. And there's this one guy used to come to meetings all the time. He was a wine son of a bitch.
She had the same damn thing every time he said
we love a guy. Just made me sick to look at him. You know
when they are working to a meeting, this guys got this really nice pair of sunglasses on. So I said, baby, you've a really nice pair of sunglasses.
Thank you.
I went to a meeting. I saw this guy at the meeting is wearing sunglasses and I went up to and I said, David, yeah, really nice, wear sunglasses thinking
third day and the 4th day, same thing. Every day I did the same thing.
The whole time I was on this assignment, that's what I did every day at a meeting that he was wearing sunglasses. He had a really. I honestly like those pair of sunglasses that he had on and I honestly dislike his dad.
Well, after I got done with all of these different assignments that my sponsor giving me for the six and seven step, I went back to my sponsor and said, okay, you know, what did you learn from that one? I said, David got a really nice pair of sunglasses.
Isn't that really? What do you learn from that? I thought about for a little while. I said, well, you know what? I guess I'm gonna get philosophical on you here, RT. If I look deep enough, I could find something that I like. Come out, everybody, no matter how much I dislike them,
smack me ahead, he said. That's exactly the point.
I don't have to like people in these rooms.
There are some people that are still really don't like. When it comes to recovery. I must love each and everyone, everyone unconditional.
God forbid I'm ever in a place where the only phone number I have is Davidde
and he knew how I really felt about him.
I changed his name to protect the innocent.
And there's been times in recovery that this has actually happened. I, I've been to a meeting and it'd be another guy like on the opposite end of the room. And like, you know, I'd be like the H and I chair for our region and he'd be like the HI chair for the area. And I hated the way he was doing things, you know, and we'd be doing it all wrong, you know,
And if you trying to do things in meetings that I didn't think you should be doing in, you know, H and I meetings. And we'd be sitting at opposite ends of the that we'd be sitting at,
and some newcomer walk in the door and they'll be shaking and sweating and puking.
And then we looked at the same meeting on a Saturday evening and a Sunday afternoon or something, and some newcomer walk in the door and they'll be shaking and sweating and puking.
They'll be back 170 lbs ago I sent back in the head wearing a leather jacket or something. And they'll come and sit down and we'd get up and we'd flank them and we'd sit with him for the meeting. And after the meeting you invite him to coffee. And after that, if you need a place to crash, we find a place from the crash, if not one of our houses. And no matter how much I hated this guy, I'm going to run to the table during the service committee meeting.
I love to do that sitting right next to me and not meeting
unconditional. That's one of the things I learned through working the 6th and 7th step assignments that my sponsor give me.
And then to the 8th step was a little bit different.
I sponsor told me I needed to make 4 lists. People that I heard financially, people that I hurt emotionally, people that I hurt physically, and people that I think owed me amends. I did that one first.
Is also fun acting a lot of people that I would mean in men's
was also pretty easy. Hell I got those notes in the mail every week. I know who I have money through
physically. Well, I knew there was a couple of people out in Arizona whose kneecaps are broke with a baseball Batman. They owed us money for drugs. But no, I didn't really expect to do amends to these people. But you know,
put it down and emotionally
call on the ex wives and girlfriends. We're on our list.
My parents, I guess, also
can't talk for me to do a nice step. I went to my sponsor and he said, OK. He said, let's take a look at, you know, the lists. And I showed him the one that I thought people who would mean amendments first. And he took that one, comes up into a bottle and threw it in the trash can.
Do it out for you so well. They're not working a program. You are.
He wasn't bigger than me
for the emotional one. He told me to put my name on the top because I forgot that one. He said I heard me more than anybody else could have heard me, and I heard me more than I heard most of the people around me. But he said that emotional Amanda, some of the best things that I could do for these people was just never talk to them again.
What's wives and girlfriends anyway? For the parents, he said the best thing I could do is just stay clean because they sure as I didn't want you here. I'm sorry, I'll never do it again. Please let me borrow the car one more time
or this time I won't steal anything. If you give me the keys
or rummy money I promise you'll get it back.
They don't want to hear that shit. So I said the best thing I could do is just stay clean. Probably took about a year and a half before my family actually invited me back into their home, which I guess
being that I hurt them for so long, that's pretty damn good. And now, like, you know, they barely remembered it, you know, the United was, you know, a little while ago. But it's nice to be able to see for the first time your mom smiling at you again, you know? And I couldn't do that stuff before I was ready to do that stuff.
The people that hurt physically, well, I was right about one thing. My sponsor told me. There's no way I could call up this guy and go, yo, I'm sorry I broke your knees,
but how you do instead is go to hospitals and volunteer my time.
I was a humbling experience
and I learned a lot from it. And hell, if you want to know what I learned from you, come and grab me after the meeting. I'll be happy to talk to you because I love talking about recovery.
I got two people here tonight. Kathy's doing a taping and Lisa's over there and both of them told me that they would let me know when I talked much
that just said she's letting me know by putting her hands up because the papers running out.
But I love talking about recovery. So if you want to hear anything else I got to say, I'd be happy to talk to you afterwards. How I stay up all night and talk to country. I love recovery or Holly Davidson. I can talk about that.
The financialist was also pretty easy. Now I couldn't, I didn't have the money to pay all these people back, and I definitely would. And my response told me I wasn't supposed to pay some of the drug that's back. He said. That's something that just, you know, you don't want to go back into those places again. There's no reason for me to go into a shooting gallery today. You know, you don't go into a whole house to order a ham sandwich.
There's only one purpose, to go to the shooting gallery.
So if I have a drug that I may act. It worked. My scan worked. We saw it.
I I still do that today when I go to the ATM machine and I put the card in and I punch in the numbers and they actually give me money. They don't go. I scored.
Come on,
it was really nice. We're starting to pay people off now. There was a lady that I had met in recovery that I borrowed some money from early in recovery to help me get my electric turn back on again. It was funny, my first year of recovery. I always knew when it was time to pick up a chip because they turned my electric off.
30 days, 60 days, 90 days, six months. How
my lecture was off.
So I had borrowed money from this lady in about a year and a half. After that I got a note from her saying thank you very much for paying me back. I think that's really,
it's been a couple years, but she actually called me something nice and I don't think I've ever gotten a letter like that.
And that was like some kind of feeling
when we've done to the 10th step.
So you think about the 10 step is
we're supposed to talk to them when we're wrong.
Now, if you're anything like me, which I assume you're a lot like me, which is not a whole lot of difference in this room, if you're here in his room tonight, you went to some of the same place like that.
It's very hard to say I'm wrong.
I'm sorry he's getting a little bit easier, but I'm wrong. Just isn't.
Sometimes I can actually say, well, maybe you're right,
they took a real long time and I didn't get it the first time through the steps and I didn't get the second time through steps. And I have no idea when I was finally able to say that, yes, I'm wrong
and we need to change that. But I'll tell you one of the things that I've learned from that is that it makes things so much smoother because you don't lose friendships and you gain new ones. Now who? Why doesn't move to Durham, which is about two or three years ago. I guess
I don't have a a bongo for me to join in with them. Maybe
tambourine? I'm getting feeding
a.
When I first moved to down about three years ago, I guess
I used to laugh that I ain't got no friends. I don't need no friends. You know, I'm doing this a lot. I, you know, I call my spots when I need to and I usually have like, you know, a lady on my arm or something, you know, but I don't need no friends. That's only been probably like the last three years that I figured out why
there's a guy that I called one day and I was like going through something. I called my sponsoring wasn't around and I called this other guy. He wasn't around, you know, like my two friends. So I went down my list, you know, sure, I got to call a third person. This has never happened to me before. And I called this guy up and, you know, I said, you know, blah, blah is what's going on is I'm feeling this is, you know, blah, blah, blah. And finally says to me, you know, hey, look, you know, whatever. And I said, Tom,
you never call me. Sometimes I, you know, I don't think that like you're a friend because you never call me.
You know, I know the boy, I said. Nice, because you never call me.
Last three years or two years, I guess I've been calling like people like #3 and #4 #5 down that list. Not that list, that list of people that I hope I never have to call.
I call them. So I haven't called David yet.
People down my list and like I talk to people and I
I could say that I'm wrong today yes, I was wrong for not calling you. You're absolutely right, and that was that's going to change right now. Today I can promptly admit when I'm wrong.
11 said tells us we saw through prime meditation to improve our conscious contact,
the same forwards as we understood Him
praying only not only of not praying, only for knowledge of His will and the power to carry that out. Today, when I get on my knees, that's what I pray for, knowledge of His will and the power to carry that out. I'm not much into the meditation part of it. I still do that. Like if I could find time to get quiet, which is usually on my motorcycle.
Pipes are so loud. Can't hear myself think anyway.
But that's good because love. Pipes save lives.
That should be a brochure,
but I get on the motorcycle and I ride and I get I can meditate because for like 20-30 minutes and I'm just driving around the rope, the block or up the road or down the street or whatever I'm doing. That's all I'm doing. I'm by myself all alone and I can meditate. It's time for me to clear my head out. Just let whatever stress is going on just go
per part is behind a whole lot easier too because now I say God in the beginning of all my prayers used to be like, yo,
hey you
the tummy ones that you got to worry when they start answering you back.
I don't know why I should start worrying now because I've been having these voices in my head for years.
I have AI have a friend actually it's Lisa's ex-husband. I heard him say something in a meeting. Now here's another thing boy I'm going to rant tonight. You better get another tape. Kathy
Talk Tradition says anonymity is a spiritual foundation of all traditions, every minding us to place principles before personalities. And at the end of the meeting, everyone gets up and they go. And what that means is what? What you hear here, who you see here, let it stay here when you leave here, here, here, or something ridiculously stupid like that.
12th edition and Narcotics Anonymous, basic text conditions as monkey like that. It says what's set in meetings stays in meetings. How
I couldn't repeat what I heard from other people in meetings at the next meeting. I would have been done an hour ago,
but set in meetings, stays in meetings, Uncle, dragging people's names and their stuff out in the street.
But if I do something that I could use, that's going to keep me clean. And I go to another meeting tomorrow and I hear something going through that same problem. I'm not telling exactly what I heard at that last meeting because it worked for me and now I hope it can work for you. And if you guys didn't do that, then I might not still be clean today. I want you to tell me what you heard at other meetings
and I'm glad that they should text 5th edition. I think it's page 102 says what it says when set in meeting, stays in meetings when people do that thing, What you see here, who you hear here, let it stay here. When you leave here, I just like, turn my head and call for something that's right.
My doctor used to tell me to do that.
I think the guys would understand that. Ladies, ask your man when you get home.
Well, that's what my that's that's my my spiel on the traditions. Well, not tradition anyway, but so that this friend of mine, Danish
people say that people come to me when they say like, is this committee going on in their head? Well, Dennis made it's real simple for me and it really works and I really like what he said. I'm going to use it. I have a friend, Sonny Sunny. I'm going I'm not like tell stories on stories here. Get two types. Kathy,
Sonny and I have never met until tonight. Sonny has been my friend for five years. Sonny and I met through a BBS on a computer five years ago.
Son and I talk to each other on the phone. We've written letters to each other
I didn't even know for the past five years, and it didn't really matter and I didn't really care. That's Sunny, what Sunny looked like, what her measurements were. I was actually able to have a friendship with a female that had nothing at all to do with sex.
I think something was the first female that I've had that relationship with, but there's been plenty more since then.
But Sonny, I was coming down the hall tonight and I was just walking. I heard.
I don't know nobody behind me.
Well, don't you stop. The people call your name. Oh, wow. And I met her for the first time. Here she is. She wasn't Texas. I was in North Carolina then she was in Durham. And I was in New York and she was in Virginia and I was in Durham.
We're both here tonight. And hi, son,
the Sonny always said, Sonny always says the first time I say it that I took it from you, I'll give you credit for it. The next time it's mine.
Next time it's mine.
I always say that too, but I was giving credit for it also. But anyway, Dennis, he's getting credit for this and this time only. And from now on it's mine. But then it said it's easier than the committee. I have a bus, I'm bus. And he's like, all these seats in the bus are filled and every day somebody else
drive.
Except for addiction. He just sits in the back row, sits all alone, never says a word. He never asked to drive.
Always. People every day want to drive.
Sometimes they do, sometimes they do. I was told that normal being normal and having one or less personalities, and sometimes I just like to keep it down to three,
but every day somebody else wants to drive this bus except addiction
because addiction knows.
But as soon as I pick up, he's driving.
And that was like the simplest I've heard it, the best I've heard it. And I'll give Dennis credit for it this time.
And that's what it's like for me sometimes. You know, if I, I got this, it's more than a committee because I'm not only do I talk to myself, I answer myself.
So when they said you got to start watching out when you're meditating, you're waiting for the answer. I didn't hear any answer for years. So this meditation stuff, I got to go on my motorcycle and get it. I got to because that's the only way I can't hear myself talking.
I started doing the 12 step, and this time I did the 12 step. I actually looked at the first part of it and the last part of it having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps
and the last part says practice these principles in all our fast. I can look at that the first time I just saw carrying messages.
But having had a spiritual awakening, a result of these steps tells me something. It actually makes me a promise. It promised me something. I believe it is only one of two promises that Narcotics Anonymous ever makes.
One of them is Promise of freedom from active addiction, the solution that has eluded us for so long
and is also in your basic text.
And the other one is having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps. It's telling me that if I'm working these other eleven steps, I'm going to have a spiritual awakening. I don't know how it comes, how it gets here, how I got it, but I've had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps.
It didn't come overnight.
Just like I really say, take it easy. Oh, it's as easy,
but that's what it tells us. We didn't get evicted and we didn't get addicted in one day. So remember,
but do it.
Just do it. You just keep coming back and it's going to start working now. That step says practice these principles and all our affairs.
It's actually second nature at this point for me to be nice to somebody that I meet on the street,
to walk down the street and actually smile to somebody, to actually be friendly. It's second nature to deal with people. I just thought of my own business and it's actually second nature now to be able to deal with customers like they're always right, even when I know absolutely for sure for certain that they're damn wrong.
I did that job. I know the guy that works for me didn't break something. He wasn't even there. But yes, ma'am, I'll be right over.
Yes Sir, I'll see to it,
but I'm also not a doormat today. Man, if I get there and I find out that it really wasn't what we did
that I am going to have to charge you a service call.
Do you remember what the guy looked like that came over?
I'm not a doormat today. I can be a nice guy, but I don't have to be a doormat.
Now the middle part of the 12 step, we try to carry this message status.
This we can do in a variety of ways and is probably the only step that we really actually don't have to have had a spiritual awakening before. We can do something to help other addicts, but that doesn't mean that we have to go out and help the still suffering at it because we have no business doing that.
That doesn't mean that we have to be the ones to jump up and get drugs out of other people's faces. Walking down the street. Not going to get the result you're looking for,
but you can go to meetings a little bit early and set up chairs.
The addicts need that. He can't volunteer to make coffee. Addicts need that can't volunteer to be part of the public information subcommittee of Narcotics Anonymous, who, thank God, was working before I even knew anything about it because I needed them when I opened up that phone book. Thank
for Hospitals, Hospitals and Institutions Subcommittee of Narcotics Anonymous because I had no clue when I was in the joint, but somehow or other it must have worked for somebody because my brother said to me get to a meeting.
My brother called me up about I had about 3 months clean and you said fucked up Pat.
I've been out for three weeks. What do I do so well? The best thing I can tell you is do the same thing you told me to do get you asked for meeting.
And in April, he celebrated 12 years of recovery.
Program works through people who do the work. Get involved.
I just said nomination. I kind of guy. I haven't done a lot of I haven't done a lot of H and I work since I've been in Durham. I did a every once in a while. I'll go with one of my friends, one of my two friends up to one of the hospitals, you know, but I really need to start getting more involved in service. I think I was waiting for my sponsor to tell me, okay, it's time for you to work 12 step again. And it just happened that he did the other day.
I'm starting my toast up again so I guess it's hard to meet her. Start getting back into service again too.
But we have plenty of fine committees, plenty of outstanding places and people get involved. We have a great convention committee that I bet you they told you at every single meeting, no clean time requirement to come to our meetings. And there I blame.
So I know that that's there. You don't need the clean time. Now, if you want to go to an H and I meeting, yeah, you'll need three months, six months, a year, whatever it is. They ask you if you want to carry money for Narcotics Anonymous, two years, you know, things like that.
But just to get involved in service, I don't think you need a day clean to just do something, make coffee, put up chairs. I'll tell you one of the biggest parts of service, one of the biggest things that are involved in our service that when we get up from each and every meeting that we leave, we need to pick up at least two chairs and one piece of garbage
because not everybody leaves garbage, but everyone sitting in a chair. So if you pick up two, you're picking up for somebody who forgot or have to leave early. If you pick up one piece of garbage, you're getting all the garbage that's in the room. And you know why? This is the most important service work that we could build because when we leave a room and the people that own the place that we're at, they come in and they go, wow, this is a great, they did a nice job. Yes, we'll invite. Yes, we can have them back next week, next year, next month.
And there's a good name for Narcotics Anonymous.
But when we walk out of a room and we left chairs turned over and coffee stains on the rugs and garbage left on the floor and gum stuck up underneath the seats, they walk in and I go, what a bunch of slobs. An addict is an addict is an addict and will never change. We don't want them back here next week. And then when the newcomer, when the addict that's still suffering
from the helpline or the toll stopper or the meeting list, but there's a meeting in that location in an hour, he's in luck and I'll meet you there.
And he gets there and the doors locked and right. No meeting
that article by seeking recovery and I believe I read someone and no attitude died seeking recovery
so take a bath, he says. The best you need to do show up early, stay late,
bring body of mind follows.
Things have changed so much for me since I got clean. It's like,
unbelievable. Yeah, actually a biker. I just dressed about it these days.
And yes, I still own a Harley-Davidson and yes, I still go to meetings and yes, I still, and, and yes, I'm getting married to a lady that I love and have been with for quite a while now.
And all of these things would not be possible if it not for Narcotics Anonymous. I've learned through Narcotics Anonymous that we can grow when we can stay alive and the newcomer can come around and we can all go together as long as we stick with Narcotics Anonymous. Now, if you want to go to your psychiatric social worker, fine, go. And when you come back to our Parks Anonymous meeting, please, I don't want to hear that shit. Well, that's just me, but if I wanted to hear what your psychiatric social worker said, I would have wanted you to his meeting.
I'll come to an iconic synonymous meeting to hear a Narcotics Anonymous message from members of Narcotics Anonymous.
If I wanted something else, I would have gone there. I've tried other things. For me, they didn't work. So if they didn't work, then I'm not going to expect them to work now. Please, when you get here, leave them at the door with your drugs.
I love this program. It may have been the last house on the block, but it's the only house I ever needed.
I think to my first meeting and by the grace of God I've picked up my first and only white ship
on January 1st, 1985.
I usually don't say how long I've been clean but I guess the doesn't matter because I told you I want my brothers been clean and obviously I was clean three months. Walmart,
but I get my recovery in Narcotics Anonymous from people who go to Narcotics Anonymous meetings. I have an NA sponsor who has an NA sponsor who has an NA sponsor.
The last time I went to a gathering of the of the of our sponsorship tree, it was over 200 people at this gathering
get out to Miami every year going back down again October 25th.
It's amazing the way this fellowship,
we used to have this gathering in my sponsors house with six of us.
We should do step workshops and go over things and always try to be Jack to the punch.
Now I'm just about to be able to see Jeffers still clean and still going to meetings. You know, I get down and I'm glad to see these guys. I'm glad to see. I'm glad to see how much
like she was still not regular seminarian. Like look how much this room has grown. Like I haven't been here before, but I just saw like when I walked in, you had like 3 rows and like 3 sections. And as I was sitting here, you have to bring more and more and more and more chairs in, and then more and then still more, and there's still more people standing up in the back of the room.
They didn't expect this.
Look how much a fellowship is grown. We're here for the newcomer. We can't get we have unless we give it away.
I love this program. One of the last things I did before I got up here is I got my knees and I asked out to send you a message. Hopefully he did. Hopefully you got something from this. I had butterflies when I started and they're all gone now, so I must be done. Thank you very much for letting me share.