Southern Cal Speakers meeting in San Diego, CA

Southern Cal Speakers meeting in San Diego, CA

▶️ Play 🗣️ Karen G. ⏱️ 39m 📅 23 Jun 2007
Thank you, Nancy.
And now I would like to introduce our main speaker for the evening.
Karen G. from Los Angeles, West Los Angeles.
Hi, everybody.
I'm Karen Garris and I'm an alcoholic.
And it's truly through the grace of God and the power of Alcoholics Anonymous that I've been sober since May 30th, 1982.
And that does not make me a miracle, makes Alcoholicsonomous a miracle.
If you're new here tonight, I want to welcome you to A.
And I always call it God's magnificent AA, the poem that saved my life.
It's going to save yours too if you want to take a few quick actions.
I suggest strong that you get a sponsor, that you get that book, Alcoholics Anonymous, and you get busy.
Everybody else is doing around here.
You know, stay sober.
I've stayed sober for 25 years, and people like me cannot stay sober, I can guarantee you.
My home group is the Pacific group in West LA.
A group I'm very, very proud to be a member of just as I'm sure you're proud to be a member of yours.
I guess if you're not proud, you ought to get a job and you might change your mind.
I certainly have a job of mine and I'm proud to have that job.
I don't think Terry for inviting me to come down tonight.
This is an honor and a privilege.
It's one that I do not kick lightly, I'll guarantee you.
You guys, I love alcoholicsonomous.
I really do.
I think that it shows by making an awful lot of mistakes and a lot of things wrong,
but I'll tell you one thing that I love you.
Make no mistake about that.
You know, I've been talking to an awful lot of things before I ever wrote my big mouth.
And one thing is, talk to my sponsor, and Clancy's In fact that night.
And even is true much wondering, why I have a man for a sponsor and why Clancy for a sponsor.
It's really quite simple.
I get sober in California.
I got sober in a place called Lincoln, Nebraska.
And what was not doing well, I'll call it Sonomis, Nebraska.
I went through 19 sponsors at a rapid clip.
And I'm certain I'm proud that I stand here tonight.
And thank God for the old-time reason, because somebody loved me enough to get my current sponsor.
And I got to hear that my life has been nothing but totally completely as a result of that.
I have to see a door to the ground that man walks night.
Talk to him this morning.
He said, almost every single day of my life.
And he said, where are you going tonight?
And I said, that knew me down in San Diego.
And he said, well, get up there and share your experience, your strength and your hope.
And tell those people what it was like, what happened, what it's like now.
Ignore the old timers.
They got it.
They don't need your inspiration, my dear.
And, you know, they don't need your inspiration, my dear.
and talk directly to those new people, the life and blood of A.
And I believe as I stand here and I welcome you and I hope that you stay.
Then I think I do without a doubt the most important thing I can ever do.
And that's to say, God, please help me say what you want me to say to these people.
God is very much a part of my life and that, you guys.
It not used to do that with me, I can guarantee you.
I come from an alcoholic, hell I can not even describe it.
It was so bad.
You know, my life is real good today, and sometimes I forget how bad it was.
And I can tell you the day I got sober, I weighed 95 pounds.
I was the color of squash.
Had an alcoholic hepatitis, I had a liver cirrhosis, I had rupture
syracies, and if you don't know what that stuff is, you don't want it.
Because you die from that kind of stuff.
And I was standing on Skid Row in Lincoln, Nebraska.
suck on a bottle of mad dog.
If you guys haven't drank mad dog,
I need to tell you it's not one of your finer wines,
I can assure you.
I'll guarantee you one thing.
That crap does never seem to grape.
Made no mistake about that.
I have.
I literally could not believe what's gone in my life.
I'd lost my children.
I'd lost my husband twice.
Although I'd really care about that, I don't want you to know.
I'd lost my car.
I'd lost my house.
I'd destroyed every relationship I'd ever have with anybody.
And I was clearly dying from alcoholism.
And then I lost the one thing that brought in my niece with disease.
I lost my nursing license.
And you guys, I love my profession.
Absolutely devastated me, but not stop me from drinking.
And there's a reason for that, and it was read here tonight that I have an obsession that somehow, someday I'll under control and enjoy my drinking.
The persistent illusion is astonishing.
Just like our book talks about, you know, this pursuit negates insanity in death.
And I'll guarantee you one thing.
I was negated to appearance.
I got cloburn almost into my coffin.
And I am so grateful for alcoholic stymus as I stand here tonight.
I cannot begin to tell you.
And you can as soon see why in and step it.
You know, like I said earlier, my suburbity.
It is May 30th, 1982.
It was not always my sobriety date.
I got my current sponsor.
I had to change that date.
And there's a reason for that.
I don't these people had to go smoke dope when I got sober.
And if you're smoking marijuana this, you're not sober.
You're not sober now, like Thomas, I would tell you about this minute.
I don't want to argue about it afterwards.
Ask any old-timers, you don't believe me.
If I could change my date, then by God, so to you.
I got my current sponsor.
I tried to explain to him that when I'm from Nebraska,
he can have two sobriety, so I'm from alcohol and smoking drugs.
He'd rather quickly point out to me that I was in Southern California.
We have one day here to get my day changing.
I said, just smarter like when I got my current sponsor?
And I said, when does the book mention pot?
He said, the book does mention pot.
And I say, Clancy, I have read that book.
So I talk about marijuana, that book.
And he said...
If I finally were pot in that book, will you change your supply?
I never argued me again.
And I knew I was making a bad deal, you guys, but I did anyway.
And I'll be damned if he didn't flip open the big book about Plexonomous.
On the first page of Bill Wilson's story, it says, died by muscular or by pot.
I said, that is not what that means.
He said, quite frankly, my dear, I don't care what it means.
You said the book didn't mention pot.
It does mention pot.
Change your sobriety date.
And my life has flourished, I've got to tell you guys.
But I'm delighted to be here tonight, and I wish you much luck with your brand new meeting.
It looks like it's going to be very, very successful and stuff.
And I'm also glad you only have a glass film.
You can see your speaker.
I had this terrible experience on the East Coast.
I had to get into talking.
I talked my skirt off in front of 3,000 people.
And I'm going to talk about it.
They had this glass plan.
You could actually see the speaker, and that makes me nervous anyway.
I've just black suit on with this wrap-round skirt, and the buttonkin, I thought, my God, my skirt's going to fall on the floor.
And it was too late.
It was on the floor.
But you guys, you know what?
That's like Thomas has taught me to wear underwear, and thank God I had some.
It's so.
It's also taught me to take action.
I just picked up that skirt and kept right on talking.
What else are you going to do?
You guys, this has been without a doubt.
Without a doubt, the best two and a half years of my sobriety.
And I want to show their head with you tonight.
If you could ask me a year to go New Year's Eve,
are your men's made enough like Sonmas?
I said, yes, that's been the absolute truth for me.
I made $6,000 out of debt here.
I owe nobody nothing, no verbal men,
no financial men.
I'm home fee here.
Just have a sponsor, have a God in my life,
go to medians, work with others.
There are 3,000 things we will stay sober.
It looks like I'm going to be okay and stuff.
And our book says that moral will be revealed, folks.
And...
I flew to Kansas City, Missouri, a year-going, years need to give an AA talk,
and this big dinner to dance banquet, so they invited me to come.
So, air traffic control had held us to the Kansas City or Kansas City, Missouri,
and so we were circling the city.
And look how the airplane went on, I spied the High Recy Hotel.
I thought, oh, my God, there's the Hyatt.
I just had done about 35 years ago.
You know, I read my inventory to my sponsor.
I'm not mentioned this for whatever reason.
I don't so much this sort of thing.
It was no big deal, I guess, but I didn't really remember when I did the inventory.
Now I got to tell my sponsor.
I called him and he said, well, get over to make a ministry.
You probably would place a bad name.
But 35 years ago on Easter morning, I found myself in the Hartmusee Hotel, Glass Elevator in Kansas City, Missouri, stark naked.
And in the first floor of the hotel, and here was his family sending of Easter clothes.
I never forget to look on these people's face as long as I live.
I thought, well, if I have time, I'll get that done.
I'd not have time to get that done.
That committee can't be really, really busy and stuff.
It's going to be there for 24 hours.
So I got to Los Angeles on New Year's Day to come back to L.A.
And my flight was canceled.
I thought, got five hours to kill, take a shuttle to the height and try to find somebody to talk to.
Although I definitely had a New Year's Day to talk.
to and boy was I wrong about that let me tell you I said I have the manager of the
heart museum hotel and I told him what I'd done and he laughed he said taren scott I have to tell
you a funny story he said 35 years ago my dad was manager's a high at that time and we were over here
having Easter brunch he said I was only seven years on never forget this as long as I live
he said you have to take the glass elevator upstairs to the brunch area and the door opened
up and a naked woman got off and he said I've never seen a naked woman for and I said well I'm sorry I had to be
your first woman but
take over and get it
and he said
and guess what?
Mom and Dad
are here this
weekend I thought
oh wonderful
he said
yeah they're celebrating
their 6thth anniversary
I put him in the
honeymoon suite
let's have him come down
and meet you
and I thought
let's not you know
but I didn't say that
we just go along with them
is what we do
and I said
whatever you want to do
it will be fine with me
and so mom and dad
came down
I thought my God
they're probably a hundred
and 50 years old
and walkers
life a heart
a cat
when they find
who I am
and boy was I
wrong about that
I said the
loveliest people
ever met
before my
lives and they laugh
and they said
Karen
we talked about
you for years
in the bars
at the higher
museum I thought
yeah I bet
you did you
and I said
I'm so sorry
I'm embarrassed
junior family
here all those
years ago
what can I do
to make that
right?
And they said
just don't hear
do it again.
I said, you know what?
I can't think of any more disgusting than a six-year-old woman getting out of a glass elevator,
stark naked.
I've mentioned for taking that path in time soon.
So as I stand here tonight, my men's a minute and I'm going to clock to sign us,
but it ain't midnight yet, folks, you never know what's going to happen around here.
Okay.
A year ago, I was over in Lofen, Nevada.
I spoke at the Tri-State Roundup.
You guys haven't experienced that conference.
My God, it's a fabulous event.
They gave about 6,000, 7,000 people to sing.
And we were hanging around the casino on Thursday night, waiting for me to start.
And I had a $10,000 slot is what happened.
And I was to experience every promise in the big book about like Somers in about five seconds last.
I was to know a new freedom and new happiness.
And...
Your financial insecurity left me temporarily.
If you're new here, not that has not how you get the promise is knock like science, but I swear to God I got a loan.
It was really a great thing.
Don Lothamone was at a hotel, that Riverside Hotel, so he came down to tell me hi.
Actually, he wants their money back is what they want.
He said, can we extend your stay?
And I said, no check, please.
I'm taking it back to L.A.
And he said, what are you doing here this weekend?
And I said...
Well, actually, I'm speaking at the convention.
He said, oh, can I come here you talk?
I love to hear the A speaker's talking.
I thought, whatever you want to do, it's your hotel.
I guess you can do what you want to.
And by guy was in line the very next night, and they never give up, folks.
And he said to me, are you sure we can't extend your stay?
And I said, I'm positive.
So I'm happy to point here at night.
I brought that 10 grand back to Los Angeles.
I paid my car off with it.
And I am truly debt-free and out like Stomis.
And there's a great position to be in.
Let me tell you guys.
Now, listen, I'm not a martyr.
I don't want to pay any of it back to go on the street.
But I'm not.
You know, it took me 18 years to do that.
It's like paying for dead horses everywhere.
But let me tell you something, folks.
I am so glad I paid that money back.
Everything I've learned now collects, I'll learn in retrospect.
While I'm doing it, I don't see the value.
It's afterwards I see the value.
So anyway, I'm glad it's over for me and stuff.
But I don't wish to get in credit card debt again.
I can tell you right this minute.
So it's been a great couple, two and a half, three years of my sobriety.
You know, I come a wonderful home there in Nebraska.
I want you to know that.
My mother wants you to know it too, I'll guarantee you that.
You know, my mom died 13 years ago, and God, I miss her so much, I can't begin to tell you guys.
Well, you only get one folks, and when they're gone, they're gone.
And I made amends to her many, many years ago.
We had a wonderful relationship last few years of life and stuff, but I just missed her terribly.
I could tell you guys a funny story.
Not to my mom died, of course.
Yeah.
I was back in Nebraska in August.
I said, August, my kids and my grandkids and stuff.
And I told my eldest son, I'm going to go to Grandma's grave and put some flowers down.
I said, where's your other grandmother buried?
I was not there for my ex-mother-in-law's family.
And he said, well, Mom, just mark off 15 rows from Grandma's Grave.
There's Grandma's, Lynn's Graved.
It's a little bit tiny graveyard.
It was overcast, Nebraska, had been raining all day.
And I told my speaker at Lawn Club at 5.30, it was already 10 after 5.
I really need to move right along here.
So...
I put the flowers on my mom's grave and marked out 15 rows.
There was my ex-mother mom's grave.
I put the flowers down and I backed up and I found myself in an eight-foot grave, you guys,
and I could not get out of that damn thing.
I thought, how in the hell did this happen to me?
Well, apparently the grave-degers in Nebraska opened the grave the day before
and they put a tarp up in a caution sign of the thing to hold the casket.
It's basically impossible fall in the grave.
And they thought, well, it's been raining all day.
Nobody's even out here.
Let's go to dinner.
We'll come back and do it later.
And I come saundering over.
And I thought, how am I going to get out of this thing?
I was more worried about that meaning.
And there was nobody out there with me, you guys.
What do you do?
You start screaming, help is what you're doing.
Right.
that 10 men say this old lady walked over the grave.
She's old, but I'm not, right?
And she says to me, I don't think you're supposed to be in there.
And I thought, stupid woman.
I didn't say that, however.
I needed that one in my pocket that particular time.
And I said, have you got a cell phone you by any chance?
She says, you know, I don't.
And I said...
Can you go up the office and see if anybody's still there?
You know, get a ladder called the fire department.
What they got to do to get me out of here?
The chung out to run the sirens is not an emergency or anything.
Here they come, you guys, six-luck-N-Braska fire trucks where their sirens going.
Think of Nebraska police cars where their sirens going.
And reporters of all damn things.
And I said, don't you dare put my name in the paper.
And they said, we have to put the fire call.
We don't put your name in the paper.
And I said, you better see that you don't.
There it was Monday morning.
Lincoln Journal and a Star.
California woman falls in eight-foot grade.
Karen, I can't believe they did that.
But you never know what's going to happen now, I'll have you all-timers know.
I made it to my mean at 529 p.m. I was there.
And the people said to me, Karen, why do you have mud all of your address?
I said, you don't even want to know.
Trust me.
Okay.
I come from an alcoholic home and I don't think that's either here nor there.
I don't do well with people who stand A podiums and blame anybody for anything.
And my father died from his disease on the city Chicago in 1979.
And you tell me how I'm major in the Air Force drives on Skid Row.
I don't know how that happened in the fact that he was an alcoholic.
And whether you were found to A or not, I do not know.
I just know that he certainly did not say sober as a relative.
So one more time tonight, this is a cunning, baffling, powerful disease that kills people.
This is not a game I'm playing up, but this is a serious business.
And I would give in the world if my father were alive tonight, because we would have a lot to talk about, I can tell you.
I have a sister who is Miss Rar-Ran high school and Homecoming Queen, shirley, all that kind of stuff,
and made straight A's never cracked the book, and I made straight Fs never cracked the book, and that was a difference.
My sister was a beautiful girl.
She's a gorgeous woman today.
She looks nothing like I do.
I've got to tell you.
And she has a model for many years from Neiman Marcus in Dallas.
And now she's retired and teaches school in the West Indies.
And I've got to tell you guys, as a direct result of this program, I love my sister very much tonight.
I found out something about her.
She's also very beautiful on the inside.
She used to know that.
I have her brother who was a fighter pilot in the Navy for many many years.
My brother retired.
six years ago in August, and did in 9-11 Iraq and so forth.
He's been called back in the service.
And, you know, my brother is really old to be a fighter pilot.
He's 54 years old.
We were growing up, I thought he was such a dork, I can't begin to tell you.
Straight as an arrow mic, doesn't drink, doesn't use drugs, doesn't screw around.
He was an embarrassment to me if you want to know the truth.
And tonight I'm so proud of that man, I cannot begin to tell you.
He wouldn't catch me over Iraq in any fighter plane.
And I have another sister who's married the public defender in Lincoln, Nebraska.
who got me out of a whole bunch of trouble when I got sober,
and I'm welcoming their homes staying I never used to be.
I come from basically a very boring family.
You know the truth.
They're high-process of people, and they bore me to tears.
I love them, but they bore me to tears.
I have a couple kids that are 44 and 45 years old,
and now I know I certainly don't have old enough to have kids that age,
but by God, I sure do.
And this is where it really starts getting interesting for me.
These kids are anything but boring, I've got to tell you guys.
As a matter of fact, they're a couple of days.
jerks, you know the truth, but those couple of jerks
give me five of the most gorgeous grandbabies you've ever seen before in your life.
And those grandbabies have never seen their grandmother drinks,
and I hope that God's say never do.
So things in my family are very, very good tonight.
It's only a direct result of alcoholicsomous, I can assure you,
and it took a long time for it to happen.
And in my case, that's a good thing.
But, you know, I grew up in Nebraska.
I was a disrupting jerk when I was growing up,
always in trouble getting kids out of class.
I hated discipline.
I was very, very rebellious.
I really hated people telling me what to do.
And I like it even less today, if you know, the truth.
And, you know, I never felt like I belonged anywhere.
And I hear that a lot from my eight podiums, and I'm right on with that.
I heard 25 percent, I got to tell you.
You know, I really don't remember my first drink, you guys.
But I can tell you that I hope to God I never forget my last one.
And I hope it was my last one.
What alcohol did with me from the very beginning.
It made me feel like I belong.
I could do anything I wanted to be.
I could do anything I wanted to do.
I drank any given opportunity after that.
And I was probably about 13 years old.
You know, I realized that I'm in me with alcohol exonomist tonight.
And I honored this podium by talking about alcoholism.
I used a lot of drugs to make that a small part of my story.
My sponsor encourages me to do that.
You know, in the big book about Alcohol Exonomist and Bill Wilson's story he talks about,
and the powerful influence of alcohol and sedation, he wound up on the rocks.
as precisely what happened me, folks.
But, you know, I'm one of these alcoholic females, and I hate to say that, this is from an A.A. podium,
but it's precisely the way that it was for me, and we're supposed to tell the truth up here,
that if you pat me on the head, my pants falls what happens to me.
And I got myself into a lot of trouble when I was growing up.
I absolutely love men.
I know everything about them.
You name about it, and I love them.
It's been the downfall of my entire existence, and they remain the same today.
I'm sorry to say.
And I, uh...
I particularly like sick men, and there's a room falling here tonight, I can just feel it, you know.
That's one thing girls I love about Southern California.
It's got so many sick men, and I'm just entertained around the clock 24 hours a day.
You know, you guys, I want to be 63 years old next week, and I have a boyfriend.
Levi have a boyfriend.
He lives in New York.
I live in L.A., so he gets along so well and stuff.
Things haven't changed a whole lot for me in that arena, I'll tell you.
But I could tell you guys a funny story.
I was in Nashville, Tennessee, about 15 years ago giving a talk.
One of the fine ladies of Nashville, Tennessee, he walked up to me afterwards, I want you to know.
And this woman said to me, she said, you're disgusting.
And she wasn't kidding, you guys.
She made every word of it.
I said, lady, from where I come from, being disgusting to step up, I can assure you.
And furthermore, if I wanted you to sponsor me, I'd flown to Nashville and Ashfield.
You know, I hear some women get this podium, and I wonder if they ever drink you guys.
I really do.
You all their drinking, run with a shoot through the keyhole of an eyedropper.
I was out there big time.
I got myself into a lot of trouble.
I've been taught to shirt.
I've been asked me anathiconomist.
And if I offend anybody in this room tonight, I would never offend anybody in the program that saved my life.
And besides that, my book tells me.
And this is my favorite part of our book.
It says, cling to the thought that in God's hands, your dark past will be the greatest possession that you have.
And he goes on to say, because you literally overt death and misery for others.
And I think that to be very, very true in my sobriety.
So if I ask anybody here, I don't want to hear about it afterwards.
But anyway.
Excuse me.
I got pregnant when I was 16 years old
and had to get married.
And my dear girls, you had to get married.
There's no if, sends and butts about that.
Just what we did and stuff.
As it must be, I'm married and an alcoholic.
He was 17.
I was 16.
I couldn't cook.
I couldn't clean.
I couldn't take care of a baby.
No, I don't want to take care of a baby.
Before we knew, we had two babies to take care of him,
I could find out what caused all that, and I put a halt
to it, I'll guarantee you that.
And that caused me a lot of trouble throughout the years.
And as it must be, I married an individual that refused to work,
they drank on a daily basis.
He's going to beat me up on a daily basis.
And I had never seen a man who had a woman before my life, you guys.
I'll guarantee one thing.
If my dad would lay one hand on my mom, she did not come from here to the moon.
I got to tell you.
And I grew to hate this guy very, very much.
And I'm not blaming here for my disease, so please don't get me wrong.
It's just part of my story needed to share it.
And I'm not.
And some of that family had to get a job.
And I didn't finish junior high yet, for God's sakes.
And I found a job as a nurse's aide to the hospital there in Lincoln.
And the magic was put in my life.
I fell in love with nursing.
And I made a plan to myself.
I would love to go to school, and I'd love to become a registered nurse.
That's what I'd love to do.
You know, they say that alcoholics don't have willpower.
And I'm here to tell you not from this podium that there's a bunch of crap.
I have more willpower than 20 elephants.
When I want to do well, I'm going to do well.
I don't have an ounce of well property comes to my disease.
When I want to do something, I'm going to do it.
I went back after an age junior high.
I went to high school.
I went to college full time for three years.
And I worked full time for three years.
And I'm talking about 18, 20 hours a day.
You guys know it is hard stuff to do.
I did not drink.
I use any drugs in this period of time.
At the age of 27 years old, I became a registered nurse.
And if you think I'm proud to stand here tonight and tell you that I got jerked in front of the State Board of Nursing Nebraska,
and they tell me you are disgraced to your profession, you're disgraced to nursing, you're disgraced to medicine,
you are no longer working because we just jerked your nursing license.
If you think I'm proud of that, you are sadly wrong.
You guys, I love my profession.
I really, really mean that.
And I would never do anything to jeopardize the people I take care of,
nor the people I work with in their ordinary circumstances.
And what I had to tell you that is a story about how I threw it right down,
that tore it so I could drink.
And that is total insanity.
It's also called alcoholism.
At the age of 27 years old, I divorced this man.
And girls, I've got to tell you that a whole new world opened up to me, and it's called men and alcohol.
And I went absolutely hog wild, is what I did.
I was engaged eight times during that divorce.
I never did marry these people.
Two of them died from alcoholism.
I know nothing about social drinking.
I drank.
I'm with alcoholics of me, do indeed die from this.
At the age of 27 years old, I went to work in surgery at a hospital there in Nebraska, and I had that job for 19 years.
I love working in the operating room.
I love taking care of those patients.
It's a colorful exciting nursing position.
I drank, medical people mostly.
They were colorful, intense people.
They worked hard, and they played hard.
And I need to tell you guys that the incidence of alcoholism amongst my profession is tremendously high.
That would be a lot through security.
security level
you can have surgery
next week
that has to be
very, very true
and those people
are so grateful
that I'm sober
that they can't
see straight
and I'm talking
about alcoholics
about.
You know, in our
book,
Aplexomis,
it says clearly
that we're
to challenge
to gym away
what our drinking
was like.
And you're
to give the gym
idea of
what my drinking
about my drinking
about my drinking
about five
seconds
in the truth.
Many,
many years ago,
I'm not going,
I was at a concert in upstate New York called Woodstock.
And I'm not talking about that piece of crap they had 10 years ago.
I'm talking about the real Woodstock.
And there will never be another one.
Trust me on that.
The kids in the 60s through a party that nobody will ever match, I'm quite sure.
New York, go when they're going to have this big event?
And they tell these people, if you don't get medical coverage, you are not going to have this concert.
started hiring people from Nebraska,
but I'd be more responsible.
And we were a steedy lot, I can assure you.
And I was the first drunk of scientist, you know,
and by nine girls I went through to join me,
and they had about 80 doctors from New York,
and then we were woodstocks.
I never seen so much alcohol in the taste in my entire life.
You could have easily sold a vaginal problem whatsoever,
and the drugs, it was like a candy store.
And,
on that back of that lot of wood stock we had a semi and that was our hospital park
out there
and i don't recall being that semi the entire week but i do recall it was at the stanford
the station right there richie haven st. freedom and joe cocker and country joe sand those
groups that i love i come from the roaring sixties you guys and i love rock and roll
let me tell you things have not changed in my life a little tiny bit i loved elvis
presby and janis joppin was my lady let me tell you wouldn't janis chopin was my lady let me tell you
wouldn't janis joplin have been a fine man about clyck sonmish you guys i'd have hung out with janis let me tell you
I didn't trade James for Clancy.
The idiotity of you on the truth.
That's not true.
That's a big fat lie.
Do not tell him I said that, please.
I was just kidding.
I wouldn't trade my sponsor for 20 jazzed jopums.
But drinking for me at one time was a fun thing, you guys.
If you'd like me, I'd say not the same thing but that.
But I can't remember the fun or the pain that caused me.
And one more time, I am so grateful.
I'll call it someone I can't begin to tell you.
You know, the drunk driving charges, the bad checks, all the stuff that we eventually do.
My kids were in trouble.
I never could marry these guys.
I was engaged.
They kept dying from alcohol.
And I thought, you know, I need to get married to my ex-husband again.
That's what I need to do.
The kids need their father besides I get even with him for all the things he's done to me.
And those are not very good reasons to get married again.
I've got to tell you.
I'm certainly not proud that I stand here tonight.
If anybody in this room is thinking about getting married the same person twice,
don't do it.
You're going to be sorry.
The only way I can describe this, like taking a bite out of the same turd twice.
I'm sorry, but that's the way I feel.
He feels the same way I do too as America, but I dance that man through three of the most miserable years of his life on the face of this earth.
And I love to tell you guys this strongberry to tell you.
And my sponsor always tells me that is not funny.
And you should not be telling that from May 8 podiums.
I said, okay, fine, then I won't tell him where he said, no, go ahead and tell those people see how sick you really were.
And apparently how sick you really still aren't.
I'm still sick and I still think it's funny and I'm telling the story.
when I married him again
I told him I said if you ever hit me again buddy
I will kill next time you hit me
and he said I won't ever hit you again ever
and I said you better see that you don't
and he lied as we did
came home drunk one night
and I happen to be sober this night for some reason
and I'll never know why because I usually wasn't
and girls you know what guys do and they come home
they want to take you to bed
and it's one thing I can't stand
there's some drunk man mulling me when I'm sober
And I said,
and the shoes under the foot, though, I don't mind at all.
I said, get your hands off me and leave me alone.
Don't you lay one more hand on me?
And he broke my arm is what he did.
And I'm here to tell you guys that I was pissed, let me tell you.
As a matter of fact, I'm still pissed about you, know the truth.
I told him, I said, you go to sleep on that couch and so help me, God, when you wake up, you're going to wish you'd never been born him.
He said it for hours, you guys, his eyes bright open.
And as it must be, he finally passed out.
And I started drinking martinis.
And this is a classic example of what alcohol did for me.
Alcohol told me what to do.
I didn't tell him what you're doing.
I had about 8, 10 martinis, and I was feeling no pain, I can assure you.
And I was sitting there watching this guy.
And I hate to tell you what this man was doing,
but I can't tell you,
Stron is going to tell you what he was doing.
He was laying on the couch playing with himself.
I thought, you disgusting, man,
you made me sick to my stomach.
And the more I drank, the matter I got.
You guys, you know, I'm a nurse,
and I'm very familiar with mal anatomy.
And I'd be very familiar with male anatomy
if I wasn't a nurse, but...
I thought to myself,
what can I do to get even this guy
for all the things he's done to me?
I came with this brilliant idea
in my drunken stupor.
That's one thing we should never do, folks,
is drink and think at the same time.
This is many, many years ago, you guys,
when superglue first came out,
and super glue was powerful stuff.
You know, in our country in the last year or so,
there's in two of the instances of super glue stuff.
I'm the original super glue person.
Mrs. Bobbitt has nothing on me, I can assure you.
Anyway, I got that super glue out, and I read the directions on that super glue.
Like I said, I was drunk and I wasn't seeing very clearly.
What I thought those directions said were, if this hits human skin, you'd beg it off than 15 hours.
Now, why would it say something stupid like that?
What it said was, in fact, if this hits human skin, you better get off in five minutes is what it said.
And I know this guy, I get so excited when I tell this story, I could just do it all over again.
And I poured super glue
All of this guy's groin
And I mean everywhere
There was not one place
I made to have super glue
And I laughed about
And I went to bed
And I woke up in the morning
Just screams of horror
Like you cannot even believe
And you know
I did not mean to hurt this guy
As bad as I didn't
I swear to got that, it's true
But I'll tell you what happened
My ex-husband
This guy never had the advantage
Of being circumcising
He was born
And now he clearly was
I can assure you not
Yeah
And we had a telephone by our bed there in our bedroom there.
And he called the police and the cops right in front of her home where there's sirens going.
There was an ambulance out there.
The neighbors were gawking out of their windows.
You know, one thing you guys got to keep in mind here, they did not see things like this happen, Lincoln, Nebraska.
And California would not surprise me.
One bit, but certainly not there.
And the cops were laughing, which the whole thing was funny.
And they said, lady, are you crazy or what?
Why would you do something like this?
And I stood there and I said, what makes you think that I did it anyway?
Okay.
I was only standing with glue on my hands for God's sake.
And they said, you're under arrest for salt and battery.
And I said, you can't arrest wives in Nebraska for salt and battery against her husbands.
I know better than that.
And two days later when I got in jail, I guess I didn't know better than that.
And they took that man in the very hospital I worked at in surgery, and you have to have surgery.
One more time, the whole staff saw what Karen did,
and they took me to jail, I might add,
and it turned out to be a terrible, terrible thing.
Those doctors down in Lincoln couldn't get that glue off,
and then get you surgeons down from Cretton University of Medical School
and Omaha Nebraska get that glue off.
And there's a paper in about that at Creton,
and even the student's going to go to medical school,
you can go read about it if you want to.
Anyway.
and I was sitting in that jail thinking to myself
I am getting out this marriage
when this guy comes home from the hospital
he's going to glue something
the mind shut and he would have too I got to tell
I'm sorry but he would have
for those you don't know this
that happened to a lady in Kentucky
about four years ago
was on the national news
and
I was on the 10thru, I had a rip on her.
I thought, my God, better her than me, I've got to tell you.
But, you know, we have an amends step in this program, and my sponsor to get an airplane and fly to Sacramento, California, and make amends to my ex-housment where he currently lives.
And I tried to tell my sponsor, I'm not sorry that I did that.
Therefore, I don't have to make the amends.
He said, I don't care whether you're sorry or not.
Getting the airplane, get there and do what I'm asking you do,
and then one of these days you will be sorry.
I'll tell you, but in this room tonight,
and that guy sees me, he kind of backs up, let me tell you.
But we're able to sit down and talk and stuff,
and I made my amends for him.
And I will tell you guys, I walked away from that man.
I was free what I had done to him.
I was free of him and married to him twice.
And I will tell you, for the first time, my sobriety,
the promise of the book about Cod's Thomas came true in my life.
And you also found about that?
Modi's mean nothing here, folks.
My Modi's sucked big time on that one.
I still got the promises.
So, go figures.
Action A.
The Counts right here, not modis and stuff.
Anyway, I divorced this guy one more time,
and I got involved with the most bizarre man
I've ever met before in my life.
This guy told me he was in a mafia.
Now, I don't think anybody in Nebraska's in a mafia, for God's sake,
except,
I was lying to him and he was lying to me.
It was a typical alcoholic nightmare is what it was.
I was drinking on a daily basis.
I was taking valium for severe tremors I was starting to have.
It was beginning to me no more fun, I've got to tell you guys.
You know, I'm a nurse and I've studied alcoholism.
I knew all about before I became one.
It shows me one more time tonight what our book says is so true.
Self-knowledge of valises nothing to this disease.
It's action that counts.
No one in the big book of Alcoholicsonomists, we have a chakra called Into Thinking.
We have a lot of it's called Into Action.
It's called Into Action.
And that's the only reason I'm standing here 25 years sober.
And the day came to that hospital tell me,
Karen, we have had all the crap we're going to take off of you.
You are absolutely pathetic.
You're the finest nurse on the staff, and you know that you are.
You have won awards for your nursing ability.
What does it matter with you?
You have a drinking problem.
We're tired of reading about you in the paper.
drunk driving charges, bag checks,
glue and husbands, all the crap that you're doing.
Everything you do in Nebraska's in the paper, I'm sorry to say,
and they knew my game.
They said, you're going to a treatment center.
You are out of here.
We are not protecting you anymore.
And I said, you and what army's going to make me go to a treatment center?
And I walked out of the job that I loved when I think of the whole world, and I cannot
say it enough tonight.
And I drank and I drank and I died and I died a thousand times over.
I went to work in nursing home there in Lincoln.
When I'm going to share with you guys is something I'm not proud to discuss from any A podium.
It took me years in my sobriety before I would ever mention this.
I found myself still in drugs from that nursing home.
It's not because I like drugs that has nothing to anything.
I was physically addicted to alcohol by now.
I had to have this stuff.
I couldn't go more than three hours without drinking.
We're having terrible withdrawal symptoms.
I couldn't drink at work, so I started stealing narcotics.
It's just that damn simple.
And I hated myself so bad I can't begin to tell you guys.
And the day came to the people that ran that place came up to me.
And they said, Karen, what is wrong with you?
You are just weird as what you are.
They take good care of the patients.
You're a great nurse, but you're just strange.
And I remember thinking to myself, you'd be strange too.
If you had 200 milligrams that dimmer all on board, you'd be strange too.
And I threw my keys at him and I walked out the door before they fired me.
And I went to work at Bryan Memorial Hospital there in Lincoln.
And you guys, it's a fine, fine facility.
And I was drunk on that area.
I got that nursing position.
And I'm not talking about falling down drunk.
I was just maintaining sort of alcohol in my bloodstream
that I would not shake and have those violent tremors.
That is clearly desperation drinking.
Our book describes it vividly.
And I was in hot water up to my yin-yang.
Let me tell you.
The very thought that I might drink again makes the hair on my neck stand straight up.
And that's how I'm in acronym of my class mom, is that the day came when I got caught red of hands coming to the hospital.
And this has got to be, without a doubt, the most humiliating day of my entire life.
When they say, you give us your narcotic keys and you get out of this hospital, don't you go walk back in here again,
reporting this to the State Board of Nursing Nebraska.
That's exactly what they did.
That's exactly what they should have done.
By the two jobs should have been, too, as a matter of fact.
And long story short, here tonight, I lost my nursing license.
And to make a long story short,
and show you at night,
I wonder up on the streets
Nebraska's what happened to me.
And you guys,
I spent two years on the streets.
And I tell the Midwest,
I prostitied myself,
and I'll guarantee you one thing,
that I have seen and done things
that no woman should ever see her doing.
I'm still so sick on the head sometimes.
I think to myself,
I wouldn't mind seeing some of them again, you know.
My sponsor assures me I am still a very ill member of alcoholics.
I've been in nut houses, I've been in detoxes, I've been in jails, I've been in institutions.
I cannot think of a thing in those streets as a practicing female alcoholic.
Things happen me, I would not repeat from this podium tonight, but I'm sure that you have the general idea.
And two years rolled by for me.
And there I was back there in Lincoln,
standing on Skid Row, sucking on a bottle of a mad dog.
And I certainly have better things intended for myself and to be doing that, let me tell you.
I will never forget that last day of my drinking as long as I live.
And I hope to God it's the last day of my drinking.
I apparently was so physically sick I just passed down the streets is what happened.
I woke up in an intensive care ward, the very hospital I was born at,
the very hospital I worked at for 19 years.
And I will tell you guys clearly that the alcoholic health meets by the day I got sober.
Okay.
You know, I'm not a really big person.
I weighed 95 pounds when I got sober.
And I laid in that intensive care ward.
I had tubes come out of my belly.
They were drained and flew off my liver.
I had IVs start going.
And I found myself on withdrawal that was so bad I cannot begin to tell you guys.
And I laid in that intensive care ward and I shook and I shook and I died and I died for 30 days.
I'd scream at those nurses to demand.
They'd give me drugs to this withdrawal.
They would not give me one drug.
They said, there's nothing wrong with your heart.
It's not doing any irregularities.
You're not getting one drug from us.
So quit asthma for them.
You need to fill in those trimbers and maybe you'll never do it again.
And I did not want to hear that.
Let me tell you.
If those nurses got 10 members of Alcoxonmas to come and sit with me.
And those people never left me day or night for 30 days.
And I'll leave selling love to these people.
And I'll tell you why.
There was nobody in my life today.
I got sobered.
My family want absolutely nothing to do with me.
They had all the crap they're going to take off me years before I quit drinking.
And for the first time and a long time, people were talking to me again.
At 30 days of sobriety, I walked into official treatment from the hospital.
I'm appraised of a treatment.
I have no opinion on one way or the other.
But apparently I went to a fine one because all they talked about was alcoholicsonomous.
And, boy, there's a lot of bad ones out to you guys.
Let me tell you.
And thank God I went to give him.
You know, where I went through treatment, a lot of you got kicked out of treatment for frattingizing.
I didn't.
Nobody wants to fratinize an orange person, I can assure you.
And there is a...
bring the patients over the hospital and they say,
look at her, see what's going to happen if you keep drinking?
Look at her.
I got, how dare you being people in my room and say stuff like that?
But you know what?
In retrospect tonight, I'm glad they did that.
I can think about that before I could pick up any drink.
But I was going to quit studying the inpatient 30 day program.
I did my very rotten behavior.
I was in there for seven long months.
That's a long time being inpatient therapy.
but I completed all that and I found myself very very active in outplexedomist
in Nebraska
I wasn't doing one thing that we teach people and I ate to do it
and I rapidly went through 19 sponsors in that town
you can pull your crap around here just for so long
and these old-timers are going to start nailing on the other
god love them the old-timers and alcoholics nomadles
they saved my life and boy they are dying off right and left I gotta tell you
and they have taught me well
and I'll be internally grateful but so I've got with 20 years of sobriety
graven at any day he said come outside I want to talk to you
you stay away from new people
How dare you tell the new people in A, they don't read the book and they need a sponsor?
He said, you're like a typhoid Mary in A.
Everybody dies around you, but you're able to stay sober somehow.
And he went on to tell me, there's going to be a man from California speaking in Carrey, Nebraska this weekend.
His name is Clancy, who this man's speaker, and asked this man to you will sponsor you.
He is a master dealing with jerks like you.
And I hear all that clancy, and I want nothing to do with him, period,
because I knew I was going to be in bad, bad trouble.
And I got to tell you guys that my fears have been justified 8,000 times over it.
I told this old time where I said,
who do you think you are that you're going to tell me to be my sponsor and act like Thomas?
He said, if you don't get in that car and go this Saturday,
I'm going to tell everybody in Lincoln how you stole money from an AA meeting.
And I'll guarantee I was in that car going to Connie Nebraska.
I paid that money back, too, by the way.
I did say it, but I did.
And I will tell you guys from a podium in Connie, Nebraska, that man literally put the magic
of alcoholics in my life.
My life has never been the same since that talk.
And there's a reason for that.
For the first time, my sobriety, I was identifying another alcoholic.
And as I understand, alcoholic sonomist, that's what this thing is all about.
I know of no finder speaker in the world of my sponsor.
I'm not saying that you need to believe that.
It's only important that I believe that.
And by in that talk, I wanted that man for my sponsor.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is how God works in my life.
He apparently does me what I cannot do for myself.
And I can't ask me to be my sponsor.
And he looked at me and he said, I don't sponsor crazy people like you.
And that's a lie anyway.
He sponsors people crazy and ever thought of me.
And I thought to myself, what did he say that to me for?
He doesn't even know me.
I wasn't aware of that this old-timer had called him,
she was probably coming to Nebraska,
and asked me about me if he would talk,
and he said, of course I won't.
He knew my game.
He said,
Chairman, I have to sponsor people a long-distance basis,
but I'm going to do this for you.
If I don't do it for you, you'll probably go die somewhere.
He said, I'm going to tell you something, little girl,
and you better listen to me real good because I'm going to say it one time and one time only.
You're going to call me every day to tell you not to call me every day.
You're going to read that book.
You're going to sponsor people,
become an active bombing in a black like Islam.
You're not going to argue with me.
defend your actions to me, do what I ask you to do.
And if you don't want to do that, then get yourself a different sponsor.
And you guys, you want to talk about we stood at the turning point.
This is there in my recovery, really beginning off like some.
Listen, I said two words that I almost fell over when I said them.
I said, yes, sir.
I don't tell people, yes, sir, trust me, I don't.
One more time, God do them, I can't do for myself.
Respects got to start for me somewhere.
I was being my sponsor, now if I saw them.
Listen, I went back to Lincoln.
I became very, very active in the right way.
Everybody sponsored a lot of women in that town.
I'm not bragging about that.
It's not that much fun to sponsor 50, 615.
crazy women in Alcoholics Anonymous, but I agree to love those women very, very much, and I'll tell you why.
They really showed me the first four years of my sobriety what two people were not to do in this program,
and every one of those women are so sober today, with the exception of one, and she died in a car accident when she was 13 years sober.
But she died sober, you guys, and it wasn't because of me.
They were active members of Alcoxanomas, and one of the first directions my sponsor gave me.
I want you to get that nursing license back.
I tried to tell this man, I can't have the kind of humiliation.
He said, Karen, are you arguing with me?
And I said, no.
He said, get to the State Board and Risk in Nebraska and tell those people you've been sober
in a year and a half.
You've got the opportunity to get your nursing license back.
And you guys, I knew it wasn't going to work, but I did it anyway.
And that's out of doubt the most important thing I can say in this meeting tonight.
I did what my sponsor asked me to do whether I thought would work or not.
And I asked him my license back.
And they looked at me like I had just grown horns on the top of my head, I can assure you.
And they said, how many links are you wanted to go to them?
I had to do a lot, you guys.
I had to take crap off people for two years that I wouldn't hire to mow my own lawn.
You know, the truth, to keep my mouth shut in the process, too.
And one of the happiest days of my life occurred 20 years ago this last April,
when one more time I was jerking from the state board of nursing Nebraska and what they told me,
brought me to my knees for the first time in Alcoholicsomists.
They said, welcome home.
You're fully being stated as a registered nurse.
And as a gift from AA, I don't deserve by God I intended to take it.
I came out of a visit a couple times.
I fell in love with Southern California, AA.
If you're new in this room tonight, I want you to know that you're in the mecca of our
pachshundas in the whole world.
This is the best place to be and be sober.
I know that's very great because I get the honor of speaking all the world.
And I welcome you and I hope you stay.
I took plants in the phone one day.
I'll move to L.A.
Living that crazy business beach with all those crazy people.
I knew I took the glove, not been wrong about it either.
I'm the Pacific group.
I want to work at UCLA in the operating room,
to be on two of their transplant teams, their heart liver transplant teams.
I want this and I want that.
And every single of those things have come through for me.
And those are all gifts from AA.
I deserve none, by God, I'm taking all of them.
You know, people say to me all the time,
why do you keep doing it, Karen, why do you keep doing it?
And I know no greater thing to say to them.
There are 12th tradition says long form.
So that this to the end, that my great blessings may never spoil me, I may forever live and thank for contemplation.
I think it presides over us all.
And I'm going to say one thing more.
I'm going to shut my mouth here right on time.
It has been one hell of a walk.
I'm a skid row in Nebraska.
To where I stand in San Diego, California, tonight.
But to the grace of God and outclosed, Thomas, I would have missed it all.
Thank you for having you.
Thank you for my life.
Thank you.