Deandre M. from Lancaster, CA speaking in Simi Valley, CA
My
name
is
Gandry,
and
I'm
an
alcoholic.
Yeah.
I'm
a
drink.
Why?
Oh.
Hey.
Looking
here.
Oh,
got
a
full
house
tonight.
Wow.
All
the
people
are
here.
Congratulate
hi.
Hi.
How
are
you?
Good.
How
are
you?
Good.
Good
to
see
you.
Okay.
You
missed
the
readings.
Just
kidding.
Good
to
be
sober.
Welcome
to
the
new
people.
There's
a
lot
of
new
people
here
tonight.
It's
always
good
to
be
in
an
AA
meeting
where
there
are
new
people.
It
doesn't
do
very
well
without
the
newcomers.
Glad
you're
here
tonight.
And
and
what
an
honor
and
a
privilege,
to
not
have
to
stare
at
my
name
misspelled
all
night.
That's
gonna
bother
me
for
here
you
go.
Real
alcoholic.
My
sobriety
birthday
is
May
29th
1991,
which
means
I'll
be
celebrating
17
years,
between
now
and
next
month
if
I
don't
wind
up
getting
loaded.
This
tricky
disease
might
decide
to
leave
AA
after
17
years,
you
know.
You
never
know.
It
Gets
a
little
uncomfortable
around
here,
and
my
sponsor's
not
perfect.
So
we
have
to
get
the
heck
out
of
here.
I
I
am
grateful
to
be
sober.
I
used
to
live
in
Simi
Valley,
a
couple
of
years
ago.
I
lived
here
for
about
a
year
or
so.
Actually,
it
was
a
little
less
than
that.
It
felt
like
a
year
or
so.
I,
it
was
a
great
community.
You
guys
have
a
beautiful
community.
It's
beautiful
here
coming
over
the
over
in,
out
of
the
San
Antonio
Valley
and
coming
down
into
Simi
Valley.
I
see
they've
put
this
big
huge
sign
up
now.
It
just
looks
like
Simi
Valley
is
just
growing,
in
its
own
identity.
That's
beautiful,
and,
good
to
be
sober.
And
I
wanna
thank
my
friends
for
coming
out.
I
I
brought
some
friends
along
with
me
here,
people
that
I'm
directly
connected,
to
one
way
or
another
through
sponsorship.
But,
we've
been
really
doing
a
lot
of
lot
of
meetings
out
of
our
comfort
zone,
which
is
really
nice,
you
know,
because
what
happens
is
we
start
realizing
that
we
can
live
anywhere
we
want,
you
know,
with
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
As
long
as
AA
is
allowed,
we
are
too.
And,
when
AA
isn't
allowed,
I'm
not
allowed.
You
know?
And
that's
how
I
live
my
life
today
by
the
grace
of
God,
through
the
program
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
My
sponsor
is
Jimmy
Moss,
and
my
home
group
is
the
Hermosa
Beach
Men's
Stag,
8:30
on
Monday
nights
at
the
Hermosa
Beach
Alano
Club,
and,
I
am
now
the
secretary
of
that
meeting.
I
started
calling
that
meeting
several
years
ago,
and
I
could
clearly
see
that
they
needed
my
help.
So
I
decided
to
take
over,
and,
actually,
it
didn't
happen
that
easily.
They
had
to
pull
my
name
out
of
a
hat,
you
know,
for
me
to
become
secretary.
Anyway,
I
I
was
born
a
poor
black
child,
and
I
just
wanna
get
that
out
of
the
way.
A
lot
of
people
are
uncomfortable
in
the
meetings
and
stuff.
And,
I
grew
up
in
the
Jordan
Downs
housing
projects
in
Watts,
which
is
quite
a
ways
away
from
here,
but,
I
I
love
living
in
the
projects.
I
love
being
from
Watts.
I
love
feeling,
different.
Almost
get
high
off
of
that.
The
more
different
I
feel,
the
more,
hazy
it
is
for
me
to
deal
with
reality,
and
I
like
to
be
able
to
balance
all
that
out
with
drinking.
And,
and
I
love
alcohol.
Alcohol
is
a
great
persuader
for
me,
and
I
I
just
remember
my
mother
making
alcohol
look
so
darn
fun
when
we
were
younger.
And,
and
and
she
made
drinking
look
recreational,
And,
and
that's
what
I
thought
I
was
doing
when
I
first
started
drinking,
is
enjoying
myself.
And
later
on
down
the
line,
I
saw
myself
sort
of,
you
know,
hanging
out
with
people
other
than
my
family.
You
know,
I
I
I
I
started
drinking
with
friends,
and,
those
friends
turned
out
to
be,
helpers
of,
the
destruction,
that
went
on.
These
friends
of
mine
were
just
really,
crazy.
And
we
and
we
used
to
hang
out
all
night
and
and
party
and
laugh
and
have
a
good
old
time.
You
know?
I
loved
alcohol
in
the
sense
that,
you
know,
even
when
it
wasn't
a
good
time,
it
didn't
matter
as
long
as
I
was
gonna
be
able
to
drink,
you
know.
And
that's
what
kind
of
an
alcoholic
I
am.
I
don't
need
feelings
or
facts
to
be
drinking.
All
I
need
is
untreated
alcoholism,
and
I'm
off
and
running.
And,
you
know,
part
of
the
insanity
of
the
of
the
first
drink
for
me
is
to
be
dishonest
about
the
fact
that
I'm
about
to
take
it.
I
gotta
fake
it
because
by
the
time
I
get
into
alcoholic
drinking,
everybody
everybody
around
me
knows
there's
something
wrong
with
my
thinking.
You
know?
And
I
I'm
a
I'm
a
sloppy
drunk.
I
start
fights
and
argue
and
then
get
beat
up
and
leave
and
run.
And,
and
I'm
not
a
barroom
drinker.
I
don't
know
what
that's
like.
I
I
hear
a
lot
about
that
in
the
meetings,
and,
I'm
sure
it
was
just
as
horrible
as
my
little
around
the
house
stealing
from
my
mom
drinking.
And,
and
what
happened
was,
you
know,
in
that
community
over
there,
we
were
just
taught
to,
feel
good
and
look
better,
you
know,
at
any
cost.
You
know?
And
when
I
first
got
into
rehab,
I
got
chased
into
a
place
called
Warm
Springs
Rehabilitation
Center,
and
I
thought
the
fundamentals
of
sobriety
were
looking
good
and
feeling
better.
If
you
somehow
look
good
and
feel
better,
then
you're
recovering.
And,
later
on
through,
pain
and
a
whole
lot
of
discomfort,
I
realized
that
I
probably
needed
a
little
bit
more,
for
me
besides
lifting
and
feeling
better.
And
so
upon
leaving
that
rehab,
I
went
to
a
place
called
the
Open
Door
Fellowship
Hall.
And
over
there,
I
met
a
man
named
Dennis
Lee.
And,
Dennis
Lee
and
I
had
a
little
meeting
after
the
meeting,
and
I
was
giving
him
my
interpretation
of
what
AA
was
about
because
I
had
just
been
the
steering
committee
chairman
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
at
the
rehab
I
was
in.
So
I
just
needed
to
go
over
with
him
before
I
would,
allow
him
to
be
my
sponsor.
I
needed
to
go
over
some
of
the
basic
fundamentals
of
what
this
program
is
about.
And
he
proceeded
to
tell
me
that
it
seemed
like
I
knew
a
lot
about
steps
1,
2,
and
3,
because
I
had
completed
those
step
packets
up
there.
But
he
wanted
to
talk
to
me
about
what
he
knew
about
steps
1,
2,
and
3.
And
that
kinda
tripped
me
out
a
little
bit
because
I
didn't
know
what
he
knew
about
steps
1,
2,
and
3.
You
know?
And
he
told
me
that
he
was
gonna
get
me
started
on
my
inventory.
The
inventory.
The
inventory.
You
know,
and
I
didn't
wanna
do
the
inventory,
you
know,
because
I
had
already
seen
the
steps
on
the
wall
at
Warm
Springs,
and
I
knew
that
when
I
read
the
first
three
steps
and
I
saw
step
4,
I
knew
that
meant
secrets.
I
knew
that
meant
the
things
that
I
wasn't
gonna
tell
anybody.
I
knew
that
those
people
were
not
just
talking
about
not
drinking
When
I
read
that
step
off
the
wall,
I
could
see
it,
you
know,
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
in
here
can
relate
to
that.
But
step
4
scared
me
to
death,
man,
because
I
could
see
that
in
step
4,
they
don't
even
mention
God
in
that
step.
They
just
want
me
to
take
a
look
at
my
sick,
sorry,
dying
ass
life,
and
I
don't
wanna
do
that.
See,
because
what
I
do
with
my
life
is
I
blame
you
for
it.
I
ain't
gonna
do
nothing
about
it,
but
I
can
sit
and
talk
to
you
about
my
life
and
explain
to
you
how
it's
everybody's
fault
that
I'm
not
taking
responsibility
for
how
my
life's
turned
out.
So,
I
had
to
do
a
4th
step
the
way
he,
showed
it
to
me
in
this
book,
and,
you
know,
it
was
a
really
scary,
thing
to
do
for
me.
And
I
know
a
lot
of
people
say,
you
know,
don't
worry
about
the
4th
step.
It's
not
a
big
deal.
Well,
then
I
don't
believe
that
those
people
did
a
very
thorough
one,
quite
frankly.
You
know?
And,
my
4th
step
was
very
important
to
me,
you
know?
And,
what
happened
was
he
read
the
book
with
me
and
we
would
meet
up
and
he
would
give
me
these
little
assignments.
And
while
all
my
friends
were
driving
off
into
their
cars
and
having
fun
and
stuff,
I
had
to
sit
with
this
fat,
overweight
white
man
from
Florida
in
his
Volvo
and
read
the
big
book
and
read
these
assignments.
And
AA
was
not
fun
for
me
at
that
time.
I
didn't
like
it.
It
didn't
feel
good,
you
know,
but
I
went
ahead
and
did
that
work,
you
know,
and,
what
happened
was
through
that
little
meeting
with
him
every
week,
we
wound
up
building
a
relationship
with
each
other
that
put
a
face
on
Alcoholics
Anonymous
for
me.
And
by
consistently
going
to
a
home
group
and
getting
involved
with
those
people
over
there,
I
actually
found
a
role
in
AA
where
I'm
a
part
of
a
movement
and
I'm
not
just
fighting
with
the
first
straight,
that
I'm
involved
in
something
that
far
exceeds
whether
I'm
feeling
good
or
not.
And
this
avail
availability
that
the
program
opened
up
for
me
to
be
here
for
other
people
as
well
as
myself.
You
know,
it's
a
great
feeling
to
feel
apart.
You
know,
and
one
of
the
things
that
he
showed
me
through
getting
those
those,
resentments
written
down
and
stuff
because
eventually
it
was
connected
to
the
part
in
the
program
where
we
have
to
make
amends.
And
to
me,
when
I
first
heard
amends,
I
figured
it
meant
I'm
sorry.
I'm
sorry.
Are
you
sorry?
Hi.
My
name
is
Deandre,
and
I'm
sorry.
We're
gonna
we're
gonna
all
start
identifying
as
sorry
rather
than
alcoholic.
And
he
showed
me
the
definition
of
amend,
and
it
had
something
to
do
with
change.
They
don't,
I'm
sorry,
the
constitution.
They
change
it
when
they
amend
it,
and
I
didn't
wanna
change
because
I
needed
these
reservations
that
would
allow
me
to
feel
safe
in
the
back
of
my
mind
about
probably
being
able
to
get
lowered
again
one
day.
My
big
book
tells
me
that
it's
a
great
obsession
to
be
able
to
somehow,
someday,
be
like
these
people
who
don't
have
this
allergic
reaction
to
alcohol,
you
know?
And,
a
lot
of
times
I
used
to
think
when
I
was
new
that
the
obsession
was
that
feeling
that
you
have
when
you
gotta
go
to
the
bathroom
and
you're
finna
get
loaded.
And
if
you're
a
newcomer,
that's
not
what
they're
talking
about.
It
means
something
different
than
that.
And,
he
showed
me
through
the
work.
Because
my
big
book
says
too,
when
we
chant,
it
says
the
idea
that
we
were
like
other
people
or
presently
maybe
has
to
be
smashed.
And
that
carries
a
lot
of
depth
and
weight
for
me
because
I've
been
sober
for
over
10
years,
and
a
lot
of
my
friends
have
gone
back
out
and
gotten
loaded
because,
they
were
doing
good.
There
wasn't
a
cloud
on
the
horizon.
They
had
cleared
up
all
their
court
stuff.
Mommy
and
daddy
had
started
inviting
them
back
into
the
house.
They
started
smelling
like
a
bar
of
soap
instead
of
a
bed
of
fertilizer,
you
know,
and
they
started
looking
good
and
feeling
better.
And
then
they
went
and
got
loaded,
you
know,
and
I
used
to
think
that
you
had
to
really
put
off
like
a
wrecked,
image
in
AA,
and
then
you
relapse.
And,
you
know,
what
I
found
out
is
that
most
of
us
come
here
wrecked,
but
a
lot
of
us
leave
here
because
it
gets
real
good.
And
we
get
too
many
years,
and
we
forget
about
the
days
we
were
in
when
we
got
here,
and
we
go
get
loaded
again.
And
you
talk
to
anybody
that's
been
here
for
a
little
minute,
and
they'll
tell
you
that
a
lot
of
their
friends
don't
go
back
out
when
it's
all
bad
and
miserable.
They
go
back
out
when
it's
really,
really
doing
good.
You
know,
somebody
crawling
back
in
the
bed
with
you.
Get
your
haircut.
I
know
I
get
my
hair.
Mikey
cuts
my
hair
every
2
weeks.
I'd
be
looking
good,
boy,
on
the
outside
and,
that
that
that
dressing
up
a
trash
can
is
not
a
cure
for
alcoholism.
And
so
with
these
stomach
steps
4
through
9,
what
he
allowed
me
to
do
is
realize
that,
you
know,
I'm
clogged
up.
Right?
I'm
I'm
blocked
off
from
being
of
maximum
service
to
god
and
my
fellows.
And
so
with
these
fears
and
these
character
defects,
I
really
don't
have
time
to
be
trying
to
help
you
because
I'm
running
around
trying
to
arrange
life
to
suit
myself
because
I
gotta
hide
all
of
this
garbage,
you
know.
And
now
I'm
in
AA
around
these
people
that
know
that
an
inventory
is
absolutely
necessary.
It's
one
of
those
weird
things
we
got
in
AA
that
we
kinda
do
almost
twice,
step
4
and
10.
And
it's
really
important
to
take
that
self
examination
to
a
to
a
really
honest
level.
And
and,
you
know,
with
steps
4
to
9,
it's
just
like,
you
know,
I
don't
wanna
do
that.
When
I
got
sober,
I
weighed
a
£110.
My,
old
timer
friend
at
my
home
group
said
that
if
you
would
have
turned
me
sideways
and
I
would
have
stuck
my
tongue
out,
I
looked
like
a
zipper.
And
part
of
the
insanity
of
being
in
AA
is
we
do
better.
We
do
better.
We
do
better.
We
we
do
better,
man.
I
even
know
people
that
haven't
even
had
to
do
a
lot
of
step
work,
and
they
come
in
here,
man,
and
they
drink
this
truck
driver
ass
coffee,
and
they
eat
these
donuts
and
smoke
up
your
cigarettes,
and
they
look
better,
man,
after
30
days
or
30
hours
or
30
minutes.
You
know,
they
do
better.
And
I'm
here
to
share
that
doing
better
is
not
a
cure
for
alcoholism.
You
know?
I'm
here
to
share
that
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
not
a
cure
for
alcoholism.
I'm
here
to
share
that
by
taking
the
steps,
I
get
to
be
able
to
stay
connected
to
a
daily
reprieve.
Man,
this
Cinderella
story
has
disease.
It's
constantly
on
me,
And
I
don't
mean
that
in
a
fearful,
uncomfortable
manner.
I
mean
that
realistically,
that
in
spite
of
what
they're
telling
me
on
that
job
and
and
all
the
things
my
landlord
says
to
me
and
how
the
phone
people
are
bargaining
with
me
because
I
got
my
phone
to
extend
another
day
and
all
of
the
all
of
that
stuff
can
be
cashed
in
at
the
customer
service
counter
at
Walmart
so
I
can
go
get
loaded.
See,
and
I
know
that
all
this
stuff
is
on
loan
today.
You
know?
And
I
see
a
lot
of
people
around
here
trying
to
take
ownership
for
these
things
that
god
is
allowing
us
to
use,
allegedly,
to
help
be
more
of
service
to
god
and
his
children.
But
we
take
our
toys
and
we
go
run
off
into
the
hills,
and
we
forget
about
the
people
that
need
this
help.
See
my
friends
doing
that.
So
basically,
what
happened
for
me
is
when
I
moved
to
Lancaster
and
I
got
involved
with
the
Open
Door,
I
started
realizing
that
I
was
a
part
of
a
community.
You
know?
And
I
started
realizing
that
I'm
I'm
I'm
a
very
sick
person.
You
know?
And
one
of
the
narcissistic
aspects
of
disease
that
I
have
for
me
is
that,
you
know,
eventually
I
wanna
get
to
a
place
in
my
sobriety
where
I
don't
need
the
things
that
I
had
to
have
in
the
beginning
of
my
sobriety.
And
I
see
a
lot
of
my
friends
doing
that,
trying
to
outgrow
AA.
See?
They're
moving
on.
And
then
they
look
down
back
at
guys
like
me
that
are
just
having
a
panel
for
15
years
as
someone
who's
hiding
in
AA.
I'm
hiding
in
AA
because
I'm
not
flying
around
looking
at
you
guys
precariously
trying
to
figure
out
how
better
than
I
am
than
you
are
because
you're
totally
committed
to
alcoholics
anonymous.
Hope
I'm
taking
somebody's
inventory
tonight.
And
what
I've
learned
is
that,
you
know,
I
need
this
stuff
regardless
of
what
they're
telling
me
I
have
to
have
out
there.
And
through
having
a
spiritual
awakening
as
the
result
of
these
steps,
I'm
not
afraid
of
that
today.
You
know,
I
go
ahead
and
take
the
ridicule.
I
I
I
mean,
you
know,
the
thing
is
is
that
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
I
was
taught
when
I
was
a
youngster,
especially
my
concept
of
god,
was
given
to
me
by
people
who
had
very
limited
information.
You
know?
And
they
were
giving
me
the
best
they
could
with
what
they
had
to
work
with.
You
know?
And
I
can't
blame
my
mother
and
them
for
some
of
these
fears
that
they
passed
on
to
me,
but
I
am
willing
to
be
honest
about
those
fears
and
not
continue
to
live
in
them
for
them.
You
know,
my
mother
and
them,
they
act
like
you're
supposed
to
have
a
certain
attitude
about
life,
and
I
don't
think
that
that's
bad.
It's
just
that
I'm
bodily
and
mentally
different
from
my
fellows
this
evening,
and
it's
just
a
good
idea
for
me
to
stick
with
you
people,
to
not
forget
that
so
easily,
you
know,
and,
you
people
properly
armed
me
with
the
facts,
you
know,
and
what
I'm
sharing
is
that
a
lot
of
this
insanity
that
was
going
on
in
my
earlier
sobriety
was
just
fear
of
commitment.
Afraid
of
being
committed
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Because
what
am
I
gonna
look
like?
The
hole
in
the
donut,
you
know.
The
guy
that
quotes
the
big
book
in
the
meeting
instead
of
holding
the
meeting
hostage
with
a
drunkalog.
You
know,
the
guy
that
really
is
reading
the
big
book
with
other
men
and
women
and
getting
them
through
the
steps.
What
a
boring
life
some
people
believe
that
is.
And
I
don't
agree
with
that.
You
know,
you
ought
to
try
it.
See?
He
he
said
that
he
wanted
me
to
lose
myself
in
service.
And
I
said,
Dennis,
there's
people
coming
to
the
meetings
talking
about
how
they
need
to
work
on
themselves,
and
I
don't
feel
that
we're
really
working
on
me.
You
know?
I
mean,
I
got
I'm
fearful.
I
got
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
in
my
head,
and
I
really
need
you
to
spend
that
extra
time
with
me
as
a
sponsor.
And
he
would
just
tell
me,
I'll
see
you
at
the
noon
meeting
tomorrow.
Bye.
And
hang
up
in
my
face.
Now
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
like
that
kind
of
sponsorship.
They
need
that
really
deep,
you
know,
you
know,
so
and
I
think
that
that's
available
here
too,
but
I
know
how
I
am
and
I
know
that
I'll
use
anything
to
manipulate
you
into
believing
that
I'm
the
victim.
I
don't
want
you
to
believe
that
I'm
the
problem.
If
I
can
convince
you
that
I'm
the
victim,
then
we
don't
really
have
to
get
down
to
the
cause
and
and
the
conditions
about
how
I'm
really
the
problem.
So
I
I
keep
trapped
in
this
sort
of
victim
vortex
with
my
bullshit.
And
then
you
can
stay
there
with
me,
and
we
can
try
to
do
work
on
me
as
newcomer
after
newcomer
after
newcomer
after
newcomer
just
walks
by
and
goes
back
out
there
and
dies
and
drinks
because
I
got
you
with
me
well
over
a
year
sober
fixing
me,
you
know,
and
and
we
don't
have
a
we
we
got
so
much
babysitting
going
on
with
all
these
people
that
aren't
getting
into
sponsorship
that
the
sinking
ship
is
is
is
these
new
people
that
don't
get
the
opportunity,
you
know.
And
that's
what
I
try
to
do
today
is
I
try
to
give
a
newcomer
the
opportunity
to
go
through
the
steps,
you
know,
not
just
go
through
my
character
defects
and
my
personality
problems,
but
really
get
involved
with
their
own
recovery
by
way
of
taking
the
12
steps.
You
know?
And
I
know
a
lot
of
people
don't
wanna
hear
about
the
steps
anymore
in
the
meeting
sometimes,
you
know,
about
having
a
real
sobriety
date,
you
know,
and
like,
a
real
working
relationship
with
a
sponsor
or
some
sponsees,
you
know.
And
these
meetings
have
somehow
turned
into
little
entertainment
here
and
there
for
a
lot
of
people,
you
know.
And
I
don't
come
here
for
entertainment.
I
come
here
because
of
the
grace
of
God.
I
can't
drink
tonight.
I
gotta
stay
sober
Instead
of
complaining
about
it
and
being
all
butthurt
with
it,
I
just
try
to
find
a
way
to
live
through
that.
And
the
best
way
to
do
it,
man,
I
think
personally
for
me,
is
to
share
that
stuff
with
somebody
else,
you
know,
and
give
them
an
opportunity
to
get
into
this
book.
I'm
gonna
read
something
out
of
here
and
and
and
and
keep
going
here.
I'm
trying
to
look
at
the
clock
back
there,
but
it
looks
broken.
I'm
doing
I'm
doing
really
good
here.
I
wanna
read
something
out
of
this
thing
here.
This
is
what
really,
gets
me
in
the
big
book.
I'm
on
page
34.
I
know
everybody's
got
their
books,
and
we're
gonna
read
along.
Right?
Says,
how
then
shall
we
help
our
readers
determine
to
their
own
satisfaction
whether
they
are
one
of
us?
The
meetings
are
open.
The
meetings
are
open.
The
meetings
are
open.
So
the
non
alcoholics
and
the
hard
drinkers
are
coming
in.
Earlier
in
the
book,
they
describe
people
who
are
almost
like
us.
They're
almost
like
us,
man,
but
they
don't
need
a
spiritual
experience
to
stay
here.
All
they
need
is
a
dry
date,
they
can
fall
in
love,
they
can
change
scenery
or
environment,
and
they're
done.
Some
of
us
are
not
like
that.
Some
of
us
need
a
spiritual
awakening
in
order
to
stay
here.
I'll
read
further.
The
experiment
of
quitting
for
a
period
of
time
will
be
helpful,
but
we
think
we
can
render
even
a
greater
service
to
alcoholic
sufferers
and
perhaps
the
medical
fraternity.
So
we
shall
describe
some
of
the
mental
states
that
proceed
a
relapse
into
drinking.
For,
obviously,
this
is
the
crux
of
the
problem.
It
says,
what
sort
of
thinking
dominates
an
alcoholic
who
repeats
time
after
time
the
desperate
experiment
of
the
first
drink?
Friends
who
have
reasoned
with
him
after
a
spree,
which
has
brought
him
to
the
point
of
divorce
or
bankruptcy,
are
mystified
when
he,
walks
directly
into
a
saloon.
Why
does
he
do
it?
Of
what
is
he
thinking?
And
see,
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
couldn't
stay
sober
when
I
was
out
there
getting
drunk
is
that
I
didn't
know
that
I
couldn't
keep
myself
sober.
You
know,
I
didn't
know
that.
I
just
thought
I
was
trying
to,
fulfill
this
sort
of
desire
to
drink
that
was
beyond
my
mental
control.
It
just
makes
it
a
lot
easier
to
steal
from
my
own
mother
and
smoke
cigarettes
off
the
ground
when
I'm
lost
in
that
kind
of
thinking.
It's
somewhat
psychotic,
and
I
had
no
idea
that
it
was
connected
to
a
physical
allergy
that
I
would
not
stop
triggering.
I
guess
I'm
talking
about
alcoholism
tonight.
And
as
a
hard
drinker,
if
that's
who
you
may
or
may
not
be,
you
may
not
have
to
deal
with
the
reality
of
all
of
that.
In
fact,
usually,
in
most
cases,
we
don't
really
even
hear
a
lot
of
the
reality
of
all
of
that.
You
know?
And
what
captivated
me,
in
AA
after
dealing
with
Dennis
was
that
his
textbook
example
of
his
drinking
and
the
way
he
had
to
do
AA,
this
educational
variety,
sort
of
revealed
to
him
over
a
period
of
time
that
he
needed
God
to
stay
sober.
And
I
didn't
want
to
admit
that
because
god
automatically
meant
religion
to
me.
The
minute
I
hear
god,
I
hear
the
church
bells
and
the
preachers
and
them
black
ladies
singing,
you
know,
and
that
and
all
of
that,
you
know.
And
I
don't
I
don't
feel
like
doing
all
of
that.
I'm
not
going
to
be
going
to
church,
you
know.
And,
what
happened
was
he
showed
me
how
I
could,
like,
get
closer
to
my
higher
power
and
make
a
commitment
to
this
program
and
really
be
involved
with
not
drinking
for
real.
I
mean,
at
work,
home
and
play.
You
know,
really
be
involved
but
not
just
faking
it
and
having
this
AA
face
and
then
going
out
there
and
still
being
the
same
person.
He
really
tricked
me
because
I
wasn't
here
for
that.
I
wasn't
here
to
get
close
to
God.
I
wasn't
here
to
be
honest
about
my
disease.
I
was
here
because
the
heat
was
on.
And
I
had
gotten
a
little
uncomfortable,
and
I
had
gotten
in
some
trouble.
You
know,
like
drinking
always
cost
me.
But
it
just
so
happened
on
May
28th
when
I
called
that
rehab
and
Yolanda
told
me
to
get
on
the
van
and
I
got
on
that
van,
I've
been
sober
ever
since,
you
know,
so
far.
And
I
chose
the
next
day
as
my
sobriety
date
because
right
before
I
went
into
that
little
building,
I
picked
up
a
roach
off
the
ground
to
smoke
it,
you
know,
to
start
my
sobriety.
So
I'm
not
really
here
through
any
kind
of
virtuous,
like,
attempt
to,
like,
clean
up
and
straighten
up
and
fly
right.
You
know,
once
again,
I'm
here
by
the
grace
of
God.
I
can't
rely
on
myself
to
keep
me
sober.
Based
on
the
way
they
outline
how
I
get
trapped
in
my
thinking
and
how
I
always
wind
up
drinking,
I
need
something
greater
than
myself
to
hold
me
in
AA.
And
I
think
I
found
that
today.
You
know?
And
it
doesn't
mean
I
don't
have
character
defects.
It
doesn't
mean
I
always
like
being
in
AA.
But
what
it
has
meant
is
that
I
haven't
had
to
leave
It's
sober.
You
know,
and
I
wanna
share
with
you
the
highest
rank
in
the
program
is
sobriety,
is
sober.
You
know?
And,
the
commitments
and
the
speaking
and
the
traveling
and
going
to
these
meetings
and
all
of
this
stuff,
you
know,
it
seems
like
somewhat
of
a
sacrifice,
and
it
really
is,
to
my
hidden
agenda.
Because
if
you
would
have
told
me
to
go
talk
a
little
bit,
round
up
as
many
friends
as
you
can,
I
believe,
where
you
believe
in,
and
go
and
visit
other
people
to
try
to
share
with
them
what
you
found?
And
we'll
give
you,
a
40
ounce
every
minute
or
so
that
you're
there.
I
would
be
getting
the
information
on
the
destination
the
day
before
you
wanted
me
to
go.
But
then,
hey,
hey.
I
got
an
attitude
problem.
I
need
some
more
tangible
results.
And
God
will
give
me
those
tangible
results
if
I
work
with
new
people.
He'll
show
me
how
this
program
is
literally
changing
people,
and
you
don't
have
to
wait
16
years
either.
You
know,
if
you're
a
newcomer,
you
can
start
tonight.
You
can
get
with
somebody
that
has
a
working
knowledge
of
these
steps
and
is
put,
and
they
can
join
you
in
discovering
more
about
AA
and
how
you
can
stay
committed.
It's
really
a
beautiful
thing
to
feel
apart.
And
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
going
to
kill
myself
at
5
years
sober
is
I
had
disenfranchised
myself
from
the
people
that
were
saving
my
life.
And
I
got
a
second
job
and
I
was
going
to
school
and
I
was
working
2
jobs
and
going
to
school
at
the
same
time.
And
I
didn't
have
time
for
this
AA
bullshit.
I
was
too
busy.
My
plate
was
full,
and
my
sponsor
cornered
me
one
day,
and
I
told
him
that
my
plate
was
full.
And
he
told
me
that
my
plate
was
full
of
shit
if
AA
if
AA
wasn't
the
main
course.
You
know?
That
I
was
once
again
falling
into
the
thinking
that
I
just
read
out
of
this
book.
I'll
read
one
more
thing.
It
doesn't
seem
like
you
guys
are
afraid
of
the
literature.
I
know
I
have,
Ed.
This
is
out
of
the
chapter
called
Into
Action.
And
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
don't
like
this
chapter
sometimes
is
because
I
don't
really
have
a
chance
to
it's
kind
of
like
I
was
talking
to
Ethan
the
other
day
why
I
don't
like
math
because
math
is
somewhat
of
an
exact
science.
But
with,
English
and
history
and
stuff,
you
can
kinda
embellish
it
and
move
it
around
and
stuff.
And
I
like
that.
But,
but
with
the
chapter
into
action,
he
says
that,
this
I'm
on
page
83.
The
spiritual
life
is
not
a
theory.
We
have
to
live
it.
Yeah.
Because
now
the
people
are
saying
in
the
meetings
that
they
have
a
choice
that
they
have
a
choice
on
whether
they're
going
to
do
this
or
not
and
that
they
have
chosen
to
do
AA
now.
And
I
think
that's
cool,
man.
If
you
get
some
early
intervention,
you
see
a
disease,
you
realize
how
awful
it
is
as
soon
as
you
know
you
got
it
and
you
choose
your
recovery.
That's
beautiful.
But
I'm
just
here
to
share
that
some
of
us,
like
myself,
our
disease
has
progressed
beyond
that
when
we
first
come
here.
We
don't
have
that
choice.
It's
been
taken
off
the
table.
You
know?
So
that
far
into
the
steps,
they're
telling
me
that
this
this
this
this
is
not
a
choice,
man.
If
you're
a
newcomer,
I
believe
that
you
are
going
to
stay
here
and
learn
how
to
live
sober,
or
you
are
going
to
leave
here
and
learn
how
to
die
drunk?
Now
I
know
a
lot
of
people
don't
believe
in
that,
but
that's
harsh.
That's
not
what
they
told
you
when
you
when
you
sign
your
insurance
papers
after
rehab.
They
have
a
relapse
bonus
at
one
of
these
other
treatment
facilities
out
in
the
South
Bay
where
if
you
relapse,
they'll
only
charge
you
3,000
on
top
of
the
6
grand
you've
already
given
them.
It's
kind
of
a
relapse
super
buy
relapse
now,
get
one
free.
You
know?
And
and
my
and
my
AA
program
is
not
set
up
like
that.
We
believe
that
every
potential
relapse
is
is
it
can
be
a
fatal
situation.
It's
not
it's
not
a
joke.
You
know?
And
I
I
heard
they
were
saying
now
that
relapse
is
a
part
of
recovery.
So
what
do
you
say
to
the
guy
that's
been
here
for
almost
17
years
since
his
first
meeting?
I
gotta
go
get
drunk
in
order
to
really
have
some
main
part
of
my
recovery
fulfilled?
I
don't
think
so,
partner.
No.
You
keep
thinking
that
that's
a
revolving
door.
You
know,
I
use
a
dictionary
today,
and
I
have
not
been
to
any
meetings
on
the
East
Coast,
but
I've
never
been
to
an
AA
meeting
here
on
the
west
side
where
the
meeting
hall
is
covered
with
a
revolving
door.
It's
usually
a
doorknob
or
a
push
handle.
Get
a
dictionary.
You
know?
And
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
wanna
use
this
imaginary
revolving
door
policy
in
AA,
but
it
just
doesn't
exist.
It's
something
that
the
fellowship
made
up,
I
guess,
to
increase
the
numbers,
and
I'm
not
really
here
to
increase
any
numbers.
You
know,
I
wanna
share
a
message
with
depth
and
weight,
and
AA
does
cool
with,
like,
2
or
3
drunks,
man.
We
don't
need
2,500,000
people
for
real.
A
can
get
up
and
running
with
2
or
3
guys
or
gals.
And
I
think
when
we
sit
around
and
try
to
increase
the
numbers,
I
think
sometimes
we
lose
the
message
a
little
bit.
It
gets
a
little
diluted.
Watered
down,
AA.
Don't
be
too
assertive
with
these
people,
you
know?
And
all
I'm
sharing
is
that
over
the
past
several
years,
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
I
was
telling
some
of
my
friends
who
I
wanted
them
to
like
me
on
their
way
out
wasn't
a
message
of
depth
and
weight.
You
know?
And
I
often
tell
the
story
about
my
friend
Brian
Bevan
when
he
died.
He
we
we
weren't
talking
to
him
about
this
stuff
in
this
book.
We
were
trying
to
get
into
the
dances
so
he
could
feel
good
about
being
sober.
And
going
through
a
dance
has
never
kept
me
sober.
Taking
the
steps
and
going
to
the
dances
has
allowed
me
not
to
wind
up
drunk
after
one
of
them.
You
know?
But,
we
were
telling
him
all
these
funny
things,
and
he
was
he
had
his
really
pretty
girlfriend
and
all
of
this
stuff,
but
none
of
that
stuff
saved
his
life.
He
died.
He's
dead,
and
he
was
very
nice.
He
was
not
a
mean
person
that
caused
trouble
in
our
meetings.
He
was
a
very
nice
young
man.
His
parents
raised
him
as
a
kind
and
loving
person.
He
got
drunk.
He
got
loaded.
You
know?
So
I
guess
what
my
my
my
thing
is
that
after
leaving
Lancaster
and
moving
here,
I
came
I
lived
here
in
Simi
Valley.
I
used
to
go
to
the
unity,
meeting
over
here,
and
I
like
that
little
meeting
to
kinda
remind
me
of
the
room
that
they
had
Neo
in
when
they
had
him
pinned
down
on
the
table.
They
were
trying
to
bug
him
and
put
that
thing
in
there.
It's
just
a
long
room,
and
you
look
down
in
there,
and
all
these
AA
people
are
trying
to
help
each
other.
And
there's
this
long
table
like
King
Arthur,
and
everybody's
just
sitting
down.
I
can
envision
it
right
now.
And
and
all
these
people
there's
this
little
old
guy
in
there.
And
I
really
like
that
guy.
He
used
to
share
that,
that
he
tried,
he
said
if
AA
was
the
first
thing
he
really
tried
and
the
only
thing
that
worked.
You
know?
And
I
and
I
and
I
believe
that
today.
You
know,
all
these
other
fake
attempts
at
trying
to
control
and
enjoying
my
drinking,
didn't
work,
man.
And
this
program,
the
first
thing
that
I
really,
really
tried,
this
program,
those
steps,
that
that
time
with
Denis
Lee,
you
know,
that
stuff
has
paid
off,
you
know,
because
I'm
standing
here
sober,
you
know,
almost
17
years
later.
And
you
try
to
tell
that
to
a
new
person,
and
they
just
look
at
you
like
you've
lost
your
mind.
And
they
hurry
up
and
go
find
a
whole
lot
of
new
people
that
hate
your
ass.
But,
you
know,
I
was
I
was
talking
to
one
of
my
grand
on
the
way.
When
were
we
going?
We
were
going
somewhere.
I
can't
remember.
I
didn't
take
my
my
ginkgo
galone
by
the
day,
but
I
was
we
were
we
were
we
were,
on
our
way
somewhere,
and
we
were
driving.
Oh,
we
were
on
our
way
to
the
Burbank
Group
last
night,
and
he
was
sitting
in
the
back
seat
of
my
car.
And
I
was
like,
I'm
gonna
stop
by
my
house
and
change
my
clothes
and
then
go.
And
he
was
like,
you
live
all
the
way
out
here?
I'm
like,
no.
We're
not
there
yet.
We
got
about
5
more
miles.
But
yeah.
Because
I
go
to
meetings
in
the
South
Bay,
but
I
live
in
Glendale.
And,
and
he
couldn't
believe
that
I
lived
that
far.
And
I
told
him,
you
know,
a
lot
of
my
friends
used
to
be
amazed
by
that,
but
they
don't
trip
off
of
it
anymore,
you
know,
because
they're
used
to
it.
And,
it's
really
easy
to
get
used
to
doing
that
10
step
to
the
point
where
you
don't
that's
why
we
don't
chant
at
my
home
group
because
that
chanting
kinda
takes
away
the
validity
of
what's
actually
being
read.
It's
kinda
like
when
you
learn
the
theme
song
to
The
Brady
Bunch.
You
don't
really
need
to
say
the
words
anymore.
You
just
sort
of
along
because
you
heard
it
so
many
damn
times.
You
know?
And
he
was
just
like
it
it
brought
it
took
me
back
to,
like,
how,
you
know,
it
really
is
cool
to
be
around
people
that
are
grateful
for
Alcoholics
Anonymous
who
know
that
they
are
living
with
unresolved
issues,
that
they
don't
have
all
their
feelings
tagged.
They're
practicing
faith,
and
they're
trying
to
make
it.
You
know,
it's
it's
really
good
to
be
surrounded
by
people
like
that.
You
know?
Because
a
lot
of
the
people
that
take
this
stuff
for
granted
and
get
all
slothful
with
it
usually
wind
up
not
caring
about
it,
and
they
usually
just
leave
it
behind
like
it's
just
another
faulty
attempt
at
trying
to
manage
and
control
their
life,
you
know?
And
I
just
really
like
my
shit
to
be
ripe.
I
want
my
AA
and
my
sobriety
to
be
like
a
ripe
green
apple,
not
some
job
in
the
hut,
rotten
ass,
washed
up
interpretation
of
how
easy
I
needed
to
be
for
me.
I'm
talking
about
footwork.
I'm
talking
about
staying
involved.
And
I'm
talking
like
this
with
over
10
years
sober,
you
know,
and,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
help
these
new
people.
You
know,
I
don't
care
how
much
money
I
have.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
help
these
new
people.
I
don't
care
how
depressed
I've
been.
I
don't
care
that
I
had
to
have
surgery
earlier
this
year.
I
don't
care.
I
don't
care.
I'd
rather
be
involved
with
AA
and
doing
this
stuff
with
these
people
that
need
these
steps,
man,
because
it
reminds
me
that
I
am
not
a
counselor
on
duty.
I'm
a
real
alcoholic.
I'm
trying
to
save
my
own
booty.
I'm
an
alcoholic,
man.
I
ain't
got
no
caseload.
You
know?
I
need
God.
I
need
the
steps.
I
need
the
book.
I
want
the
meetings.
I'm
gonna
share
a
little
bit
about
being
properly
armed,
and
I'm
gonna
turn
the
meeting
over.
When
I
used
to
hear
that,
you
know,
they
say
that
when
the
guy
is
properly
armed
with
facts
about
himself,
he
can
generally
win
the,
you
know,
the
confidence
over
from
this
new
guy
within
a
few
hours.
And
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
if
they
say
that
we're
surrendered
and
we
are
not
fighting
anymore,
then
what
do
we
be
properly
armed
with?
Why
do
you
need
to
be
properly
armed
if
you
ain't
fighting
no
damn
more?
That
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
And
what
I
started
believing
is
that,
you
know,
I'm
properly
armed
with
the
ability
to
make
an
amends.
I'm
properly
armed
with
the
ability
to
admit
that
I
need
to
be
teachable
and
I
need
to
call
my
sponsor.
I'm
properly
armed
with
the
fact
that
I
better
get
on
my
knees
in
the
morning
and
ask
God
to
keep
me
sober
and
thank
him
at
night.
You
know,
I'm
properly
armed
with
the
fact
that
I'm
not
always
gonna
feel
good
about
not
drinking
just
like
I
didn't
always
feel
good
when
I
was
drinking.
I'm
probably
armed
with
the
fact
that
circumstances
don't
keep
me
sober.
The
grace
of
god
does.
I'm
properly
armed
with
the
fact
that
I
do
not
need
to
be
stimulated
all
the
time
no
matter
what.
I'm
properly
armed
with
these
things,
and
the
reason
why
I
need
to
be
properly
armed
about
this
stuff
is
because
there's
a
part
of
my
sickness
that
I
haven't
touched
on
tonight,
and
it's
called
a
mental
blank
spot.
And
in
the
big
book,
they
say
that
at
certain
points
of
time,
we
will
be
unable
to,
you
know,
to
have
that
effective
mental
defense
against
that
first
strength.
That
defense
has
gotta
come
from
a
higher
power.
Well,
if
I'm
not
properly
armed
with
all
that
stuff
that
I
just,
rambled
off
and
I
left
quite
a
bit
of
it
out,
If
I'm
not
properly
armed
with
that
stuff,
I'm
not
even
a,
a
real
candidate
for
that
grace
because
I'm
blocked.
I
don't
even
see
the
opportunity,
you
know,
to
fall
into
the
grace
of
that
power
keeping
me
sober
when
I
got
that
middle
blank
spot
going.
See?
So
that's
why
I
gotta
do
the
prayers.
That's
why
I
gotta
drive
all
the
way
to
Simi
Valley
when
we
make
a
commitment
to
come.
That's
why
I
got
to
answer
the
phone.
That's
why
I
got
to
get
off
my
butt
tomorrow
and
go
to
work.
You
know,
that's
why
I
have
to
be
responsible
in
these
relationships
and
have
some
real
accountability
going
with
my
own
personal
sponsor
so
I
can
be
properly
armed,
you
know,
because
this
disease
does
not
care
about
nothing.
In
fact,
a
lot
of
the
friends
that
I've
seen
walk
out
of
here,
that
was
their
little
national
anthem.
I
don't
care.
You
know?
And
the
next
thing
you
know,
they're
not
anywhere
around
here.
So,
I'll
read
this
one
last
thing,
and
I'll
shut
up.
I
got
1
minute
left.
I
don't
like
referring
to
the
big
book
so
much
in
the
meetings
because
it
offends
people
who
don't
read
it
a
lot.
I
taught
a
public
speaking
class
in,
Warm
Springs
while
I
was
in
the
psych
ward.
And
one
of
the
one
of
the
fundamentals
of,
public
speaking
is
to
remember
who
your
audience
is.
And
just
for
the
record,
to
let
you
know,
I'm
a
terrible
public
speaker
because
I
know
who
my
audience
is,
and
my
job
as
a
speaker
tonight
is
to
stir
you
up
a
little
bit,
make
you
a
little
uncomfortable.
You
know?
Maybe
you'll
think
about
some
stuff.
Maybe
you'll
put
me
on
that
10
step
tonight
that
you
haven't
been
writing.
Let
me
read
this
last
little
thing,
and
then
I'll
sit
down.
And
it's
on
page
15
in
Bill's
story.
Bill
Wilson
is
the
broke
ass
stockbroker
that
founded
the
program,
Him
and
his
butt.
I'm
only
gonna
read
a
little
bit
down
at
the
bottom.
We
commenced
to
make
many
fast
friends,
and
and
a
fellowship
has
grown
up
among
us,
of
which
is
a
wonderful
thing
to
feel
apart.
The
joy
of
living
we
really
have
even
under
pressure
and
difficulty.
I
have
seen
hundreds
of
families
set
their
feet
in
the
path
that
really
goes
somewhere,
have
seen
the
most
impossible
domestic
situations
right.
Feuds
and
bitterness
of
all
sorts
wiped
out.
I've
seen
men
come
out
of
asylums,
rehab
perhaps,
that
resume
a
vital
place
in
the
lives
of
their
families
and
communities.
Business
and
professional
men
have
regained
their
standing.
There
is
scarcely
any
form
of
trouble
and
misery
which
has
not
been
overcome
among
us.
That
is
a
very
powerful
statement.
If
you
are
a
newcomer,
we
know
that
you
think
you
know
what
we
know
about
what
you
think
you
know.
But
we
suggest
that
you
stay
around
here
anyway
and
take
our
steps
and
watch
your
own
friends
grow.
People
around
you
will
change,
and
they
will
do
AA,
man.
And
it'll
make
you
get
off
your
rusty
butt
and
do
it
too.
You
know?
Or
just
keep
doing
what
you're
used
to
doing
and,
don't
take
any
of
this
information
home
with
you
at
all.
Thanks
for
letting
me
share.