Arnor K. from Reykjavik, Iceland saturday night warmup speaker at the CPH12 v8 convention in Copenhagen, Denmark

Hi. I'm Arthur. I'm an alcoholic. It would be a lie to say that I didn't think about what to say. I'm not really used to speaking in in English.

I but I do have a message. I I my experiences, It's not just my experience, it's something that changed my life. And I'm I'm not here today to tell you that my life is great and and blah blah blah just because my life is great. I'm I'm here to tell you that my life is great because I work the steps of what comes in others. I really did.

To give you a little background, when my my great grandfather is is, was a really famous drunk in Iceland. They wrote books about him. How he was he was the kind of guy that that he he went out to buy some milk. And he came to about 3 months later in the Norwegian army, and nobody knew that he even left the country. And because of this and because of this the of his alcoholism, my my father didn't drink.

He he he has never drink drunk one sip. He has never smoked one puff of a cigarette. He has never done nothing because he suspects that he would be the same, and and my great grandfather was a real alcoholic too, and his great grandfather, and my dad is the first guy, the first man and I think a millennial or something that's sober. It's there there's a line there's a line that at least to the 1500, I think, of of drunks in Iceland. And and we we Icelanders, we we we we we are genealogy buffs, king from 700 something, you know, so we know.

There are drunks in in my family all the way back, a few 100 years. And my dad told me, in no uncertain terms when I was a kid, do not drink. It's not good. It's not good for you. It's not good.

And it wasn't just because granddad got really old, my my dad never talked to my granddad got really old, my my dad never talked to my granddad. He didn't go to his funeral. He never forgave him. And and, when I was maybe 8, my mom invited granddad to dinner on Easter Sunday and dad had to work. And I knew why.

I knew because my great granddad was an alcoholic. He was a drunk and he had ruined my dad's life and it was it was no secret. It was just, you know, I knew at 8 so I didn't drink. And, you know, I went to school and I met, you know, just basics kid stuff. And and and then when my my friends started drinking, they they were all saying, hey, man.

Have a drink. Have one. Have one. And I all said, no. No.

I'm I'm not gonna drink. I'm not. My dad told me, and I told him that story, and and they said, oh, yeah. Whatever, man. And and then when I was 16 or 17, I went to a party.

And at one of those parties when where the cops came and and well, at that party, I think the cops, arrested 30 people. It was one of those parties. It's not a not a, like, a regular party. And I was there sober. No.

Because everybody knew I didn't drink, but I got really thirsty and I I went into the bathroom and I got a little bit of water just out of the tap, and it had a funny taste to it. So I went out into the party and asked asked my buddies, do you have something to drink? And they said, here. And I got this glass of clear liquid. And I took a drink.

My first one. It's like somebody said, I was I was like a freeze dried alcoholic. The sun rose. I understood. I had this heat coming up from my stomach up and flushed my face, and down my hands, and up the 7th chakra, and it opened up the connection to God.

And I I went into a trance and I walked home surprised. I was so surprised. My dad was such an asshole, you know. He he's he he had been missing the point. If this was it, then you know, and and drinking for me, what what happened then was, I basically started drinking every weekend.

And I drank every weekend for tell I stop drinking. Because drinking isn't just about relaxing for me. It's not about making friends. It's not about it's it's about it's about it's a it's a it's a spiritual experience in a bottle, you know. The 4th chapter talks about that it says that that we've been worshippers and I was a worshipper, you know.

Drinking for me is a religious ceremony, you know. And and I was like, we have the state liquor store and I would go on on on Fridays and I would on on on Thursdays we would read from the bible with which is basically the the the wine list from the state liquor store. We'd call it the bible and I would I would pick and choose what haven't I tried? What haven't I tried. Okay.

And and then I would go and and buy my regular thing which was half a case of gross. And I love Grolls. Grolls is a great beer it's because in Iceland we have we have we don't get the Danish tubo, we get the we get the Icelandic tubo and it's it's not really that good. So I drank Rose religiously. You know, I I even developed developed a talent for making the sound it does when you open the bottle.

Like this, you know. You know? And and and and and I would I would buy a bottle of Bacardi, and I would go home, and I would I would I would put them in the freezer to, you know, speed the process up. And I would go and take a shower get ready go out the shower I would open up half a liter can of gross, and I would drink it, and I would start the next one, and then I would go into the bath bathroom again, take the rest of the I would look in the mirror and I was okay. I would get dressed, I would go into into the living room and I would open up the Bacardi bottle and it it makes this sound when you open it, it cracks, you know, you know, it it the cap, you you take the cap off and it make this cracking sound, and it was a holy moment.

You know, I'm a worshiper, and I did this religiously for years. And and then, I would I would in in a few few short minutes I would would go back into the bathroom, I would put some gel in my hair and look into the mirror and say, tonight's the night. And And then I would pass out with gel in my hair. You know, sometimes I would go somewhere and and and have a party, but this is not about partying. It's not about making friends.

It's not about it's about being okay, you know. Because what happens when I don't do this is the reason I'm here tonight. Sometimes, you know, I'm I'm a I'm a puker. I puke. I puke a lot.

I've I've puked all over the place. I've puked on every square inch of my body except between my ass cheeks. It's I would I would I would wake up and and and smell the puke and almost and try and try to figure out if it was from last night, from my hair, from the pillow, or, you know, whatever. And, you know, and and I'm I and I pee my pants a lot. You know, it's not you could count the incidents when I didn't pee my pants on the fingers of one hand each year, you know.

I would always pee my pants, always. I don't know, it doesn't make me an alcoholic but what I'm saying is that my my drinking started to have effects, consequences, really nasty consequences from the get go, right from the bat. And it didn't stop me from drinking. You had your consequences and I had mine, you know. And I'm not here because I because I peed my pants, you know.

I've I've peed my pants for years, you know. I know I've, you know, I know everything about, you know, washing clothes and linens and, you know, and everything in a blackout, you know. It's it's a it's a it's a it's a just just a skill that I developed because I had to, you know. Yeah. My sister is here, she she she I once I once got drunk and and and came home and I don't remember doing it, but apparently I drank a bottle of liquor, the really sweet orange stuff puked on the floor and and came to duck with a knitted shawl and and put it in the in the in the washing machine with the past the screws and everything and and and and and boiled it and it came out like a like a handkerchief, you know.

You know, and I woke up and and she was yelling, what the fuck? What the hell is this? And, you know, and nobody ever told me that I had a drinking problem. Ever. Never ever.

You know, because in my family, there there are guys worse than me. You know, they they they're pioneers in in in drug smuggling and and, you know, and just general being beating beating up cops and, you know, And I don't even I don't even even register on the on the alcoholism scale. It's not they're they're just they're just bad. They they do bad stuff, you know. And nobody ever told me to stop drinking or check my drinking.

I I peed on the floor and I I puked and, you know, everywhere, you know. And I never even even got the idea that I should stop. It was always the chicken or the or the the beef or the steak or I was too tired or I, I've been doing a lot of work and blah blah blah blah blah. I never got the idea to stop drinking. Not to stop.

I would take I would try to take pauses and my my my version of controlled drinking or not drinking is, I would I would try and I would not go to the liquor store and I would wait until after 7 o'clock and I would Yeah, I'll just I'm just gonna watch TV and nothing on the TV was any fun, you know. I was just, you know, sat through the channels and nothing nothing caught my eye. And I didn't wanna didn't wanna watch the fucking TV as well as just smoke cigarettes and and and and looked it into the ceiling and you know and and I would just go I'll just go to sleep and I don't go to sleep go into the room to my room and and and undress and lie in bed and I couldn't close my eyes and I don't know why. Sometimes there were voices keeping were keeping me awake, Sometimes they weren't. But what happened every time this never worked by the way, never.

What happened every time is that maybe after hour, 2 hours, 3 hours, would put my clothes on again, and go out to a bar and get drunk. And I would, you know, I'm I'm I'm, you know, this is from the outside, this looks like a pitiful human being. And, you know, I'm I'm pathetic, you know. I'm not a, you know, I know some guys that didn't really cool stuff when they drink. You know, they beat up cops and, you know, and they running from the law and and hiding hiding dope from the SWAT team and and stuff like that, but that's not my story.

I just drink, I pass out, I pee my pants and I never ever stop ever. And nothing ever holds me back. I tried in in January 8. Sorry. Should've put it on silent.

January 8, 1996 is, I don't remember dates, I have no recollection of any date or anything or I have no I remember what happened between 932,000, but I don't know in what order. I don't know when what happened or what happened before the other thing. But I I will never never forget January 8, 1996. I had a nervous breakdown and my mom who is raised by a communist and doesn't really believe in God sent me to a priest. And I sat be before the priest, a middle aged old man who said, asked me what he could do for me and I just sat there and cried.

I just cried and cried and cried and cried and cried. And I said, she lay, she lay, she lay and left. I was done. I was I was done. I had no ideas about anything what I should do or whatever, you know.

I was just done. I was just hollowed out. January 9th is, my when I when I arrived in Denmark and this is really popular. It's like a national sport in Iceland. It's alcoholics that are at the end of at the end of the rope, they they go to Denmark.

And and, know, I I lived on the street. I lived, you know, it's I didn't know where I would stay the next night. Sometimes I was staying with family or families of some families that have given had given up on me. I I stayed in strange places here in Denmark. And most of most of the time I was drunk and my favorite was was beer called krone.

If you remember that it's called star pilsner or was called star pilsner after that and it's a it's not the best beer you can buy but it's No. It's not the worst. It's the the the the Yeah. It works. Yeah.

But the actually worst beer I've ever drank it's German called Hockheimer. And that's Yeah. That's a That was nasty. That that beer is so bad that that that we tried to put in the freezer to freeze it down to to to we we just couldn't drink it. So we had to put in the freezer and open it up with a can opener and eat it with a spoon to, you know, it's it was so bad, you know.

But, you know, kroner was cheap, and I didn't have any money. I I I went on on bee stand for illegally, by the way, and I was going to go to school. There's a school I think it I think I remember correctly called class as a Hannes horse school and I never went. I got a place at a college and I I would I I I came there with my with my with my suitcase which had, it had a blanket it had porno max it had time and Newsweek and some clothes and I got a black and white TV for free from somebody and I would stay there in the room take a shower maybe 10 times a day because there was nothing else to do. And I would drink and think tomorrow I'll go and apply for that school.

And I would wake up and I think I'll gotta get something to eat. And I'll I would eat something, something I usually something I'd steal from the kitchen or or whatever. And I would have one cola before I left, which turned to which turned into another one, which turned into another one, which turned into another one, and I never left. I I I don't I don't drink and go to work. I don't drink and do anything except drink.

I just drink and drink, you know. The first one is followed by the second one which is followed by the next one, by the next one, by the next one, by the next one, by the next one. And, you know, when I came to AA, they they said, you have a physical abnormal physical reaction to alcohol. If you go out, you will drink abnormally. And I would just go, what's your point?

You know. I don't know how to drink any other way. I just drink. One day, one day, I I I I'm I saw that that that that that that that that the star pistol was was getting in my way. I'd take the bus down to the down to the school.

It was a summer day, and it was in June of June or July of 96. And I went where the school is, and I stood outside across the street from the school and I looked in, there was a gate and a driveway in, and I just stood there and and I knew that I would never, you know, I would never be able to cross the street, you know, because I don't have power to do anything, you know. I was I I I I was I was my my my granddads, my other my other, my communist first grandchild, I was I was the star of the show when I was a kid. I was I was gonna be the, you know, the hope for the family or whatever, you know, because it's not a really, you know, we're not upper class, we're not lower class we're just drunks. Drunks and and and lamos you know it's just and I didn't, because I started drinking and I lost the power of choice and drink.

I just lost it. I don't know if that if I ever had it but I didn't have it at that time. I had no power to do anything, anything except drink. And this was in 96. I stood across across the street and then and I turned back, went into the bus again and went into my my room and and drank some more.

I I got deported from Denmark few weeks later because now I was a nuisance and I they found out about illegal bee stand and all that all that stuff Basically because I came whining to the commune contour and they said hey you're a bee stand, you're not supposed to have that And they offered me this great deal. Get out of Denmark and and we'll drop everything, you know. And I went and I drank for 3, 4 more years. And the details of that I would, you know, the details are not important. The details are not because of the reason I'm here, you know.

Once I came out of a blackout with a shotgun in my hand, shooting at buildings, I don't know why. Once I would come out and, you know, I would come out of blackouts, this and that place, you know, and and I've had some horrible experiences. I've done some horrible, crazy, stupid stuff, you know, I'm I'm I'm not even supposed to be here, you know. The reason I'm here is not because I gave up and went to rehab or anything. I didn't know I was not garlic.

Even with all this stuff, I didn't know. I had no conscious idea of alcoholism, none, or even a problem. I knew my life sucked, but that was about it. It was it was only about the only thing I knew. I am here because I was told that.

What what happens is that I've I've I came to the days like January 8th, I have come 5 times. Five times I can remember when I'm just at the end of my rope, when I'm just I I don't know what the next move will be. I don't know. And November 13th was one of those days. November 13, 2000.

That's my sobriety day. That's the first day I didn't take a drink. By November 15th, I had gotten the idea that has always saved me saved me from these these problems. And the idea is sounds like this, oh, now I know what I'll do. I'll just blah blah blah blah blah.

When you drink like I do, you end up in strange places and you end up at the end of your rope. I'm not talking about being hungover, I'm not I'm talking about total devastation. I'm talking about the end of the line, you reach the end of the line. But I also have this idea that I know how to get out of this mess and I would always do something. Move to Denmark, become a Danish teacher, I don't know why, you know.

So one of the one of the ideas. You know, and this day, November 15th, I I was gonna get a job, And I went to see a friend of mine and and and asked her if she could I was going to ask her for a job and she she said this was a conversation. She said, hi. And I said, hi. And she said, do you want coffee?

And I said, yes. And she and the phone rang and she went away and said, I'll only be a minute. I sat down, waited for the coffee, dropped a cup tried poured up a cup of coffee and I started drinking it. And, she came back and and and she took some coffee and some milk, sat down and said, could it be that you're alcoholic? I've never talked to her about my drinking.

I've never she just saw it. It was obvious to her, it was obvious to a lot of people, but not to me, you know, not to me. And I said, I don't know. And what happened was that I went to an open a meeting because I was not sure I was alcoholic. And at the open a meeting, there was a 20 minute speaker and a 40 minute speaker.

And I I remember the 40 minute speaker. It was a long haired, blonde, middle aged woman who had done cocaine, had children, slept with a lot of men, went to the USA, been in prison, and I'm not blonde. I'm not a woman. I'm not middle aged. I'm not I'm not any of this but she is the same as me, you know.

My story is not the story of a guy that went to Denmark and went back and blah blah blah. It's a story of an alcoholic that drinks no matter what. That's my story. And that's probably your story too. No no consequence of alcoholism has ever stopped me.

And I went to this meeting and and on a 2 days later I went to another meeting and that's my home cooked today. And the guys there, they they didn't beat about the bush. They said that they described alcoholism. They they they they talked about the physical craving, the mental obsession, the spiritual malady. They talked about the solution.

They talked about God and they talked about the steps. And I didn't hear any of it. Not not a single word, but I did get the idea that there was something there and that I was welcome and that I should keep coming and after maybe maybe a month, I'd gotten a job, you know, I got a got a great job. And I got the old idea back that I knew how to get out of this one. And I started to reason with the guys and they would say, do you have a sponsor?

And I said, do I need 1? Tell me, show me where it's in the book that I need a sponsor. You know, it's it's nowhere in the book and I knew that and they knew that and I would use logic like this to not do anything because I was afraid. Somebody asked about the sponsorship thing today. I was waiting for the perfect sponsor.

I was waiting for a sponsor that was just like me. What done the horrible, crazy, stupid stuff I did. And I'm not talking about just setting fire to houses and stuff like I'm talking about nasty, disgusting stuff. And I was waiting for somebody to come up to the podium and and talk about nasty, disgusting stuff. And I was waiting for not only for that, I was waiting for somebody who was just like me, who just did something and got all the results.

Because I I didn't want a sponsor, I didn't want help, I didn't want any help. I wanted to work my program. And my program is not a program. It's basically doing as little as possible and you know, and I was just deluded that you see, this doesn't work for an alcoholic. Because if you're something like me, you you you need the magic that alcohol gives you.

You need it. And I cannot underline the effect of alcohol on me. And I'm not just I'm not talking about peeing my pants. I didn't I didn't drink alcohol to pee my pants, you know. I didn't drink alcohol to throw up.

I didn't drink alcohol to, you know, get arrested. I drank because it that did stuff for me that nothing else could you know jerking off and and what's important and and doing all stuff crazy stuff It's good. It's nice but nothing nothing does What alcohol does for me nothing Nothing. And I've tried a lot of stuff and I was deluding myself. I thought that somehow by some strange miracle I could do nothing and just become okay.

I thought that drinking was my problem but drinking isn't my problem. Drinking is my solution. Drinking is my solution to all my the solution to all my problems. I drink until I don't know I I drink to the hearts and lungs working state. I drink so I don't to not to know.

I drink to pass out. I drink so I I I drink to not remember. And for a guy like me you can't do nothing and expect any results. And I learned that if nothing happens, nothing happens. And I will get I would get I would get progressively worse one day at a time because I need I need the thing that alcohol gave me.

I need it. I have this deep spiritual thirst they talked about today. I crave it. I have to have it, and I can't have it by by applying my ideas to my life because my ideas got me drunk and I was waiting for the sponsor that was a total loser. I was waiting for a sponsor that was a total loser that would guide me into doing nothing and get everything.

And I've never seen anybody come up to the podium and say, my life was a total mess and I did nothing and my life is great. I've never seen that happen. It's it may it may be that it may you may be the the exception to the rule. You may be. And if you are, I really truly want to hear about it.

I really do. Because what I do today is not just go to meetings. I I I fought the a I fought a a for 5 months I fought it I went to meet a meeting a day and did nothing until I was again at the end of my rope and I just broke down and I went to the biggest dweeb in AA and asked them to be my sponsor. And he said, okay, call me call me tomorrow and we started working the program of of course anonymous And I started writing inventory, and I came to him after after maybe 4 days of writing inventory, and and and and and told him that I really didn't have any resentments. And and he said, the first the first alcoholic that isn't resentful.

That's the first one, guys. And I would do what I always did. You know, this these 5 months in meetings weren't just me and meetings stuffing it out. I was totally totally totally insane somebody would say something that I didn't like and and my mind would fill up with a fantasy of, you know, taking a crowbar and slamming it into his head. And what's the expression on his face when I swirled it around in his brain?

You know, that that that's my mind. And and if I if it if it if it if it really irritated me, I I would I I I fantasized about somehow without him knowing, forcing him to put his left hand into a meat grinder and rotate with with his other hand and watch him cry not because of the pain because he was saying goodbye to his left arm for the last time. And then I wonder why I couldn't sleep at night. I was just totally totally insane. And this is not because I'm insane, this is because I have resentments or had resentments.

I was really really really really sick, and I did really really really sick stuff because I was really really spiritually sick. I didn't have a solution in my life and this and and my life wasn't like this when I was drinking. This happened during 5 months of sobriety. I just got totally totally insane. And no small wonder that I that I finally gave up and and and and asked the biggest weeb in AA to help me.

And we started working the steps and and I I wrote a resentment inventory and I started taking taking commitments and no. I can describe to you some amazing stuff that happened. I can I can really describe it to you? But the sad thing is that you would probably not relate. There's no there are no words.

You know, you can't relate to being a sick as I am unless you have been a sick as I am, you just can't. So I can tell you about the the horrors, I can tell you about how after 2 years of sobriety, I I I I saw a table saw and and every day during my meditation, I would I would meditate on sawing off my left arm with with a table saw. The blood flying everywhere in my meditation working the 12 steps of alcoholics anonymous. Helping alcoholics. This has all been removed.

It's all been removed. Somebody was talking today about, you know, just driving and then and then and then spontaneously becoming depressed I want you to, you know, enter lives or whatever. And now, I it's not proper for me to tell you the chain of thoughts that would lead to lead to the would end with the idea that yeah I'll just go and kill myself now. But there's only there's only one thought that would start it all. I start with one thought and then, oh, you're such a fucking loser.

You're such a disgusting person. You're such a you're such a sorry human being. And it would go on and on and on and on for a few minutes and then it would it would end with yeah. You should just go kill yourself now. And I can tell you that working the steps that and other people talk about inventory better than I do.

But I can tell you that I had to inventory a lot. A lot. I had to do a lot of inventory and a lot of immense to clean out. And and I have experiences now with guys I'm working with, guys with few months sober, guys with decades sober of applying this stuff and feeling. It's it's not something you see, you can see it in their eyes before they realize it, but you can feel it when you when you when you when you when you take the spiritual knife and you cut them from here to here and all the all the bad stuff flows out and you you can feel it flowing out of the room out into the room.

You can feel the person changing in front of you. You know, AA can be anything you like it to be. It can be a coffee shop. It can be a get together of friends. It it can it can be a it can be a it can be a place where you learn new spiritual tricks.

It can be a place to to to go if you really want to control your life, really. I've had some experiences with that. Turning steps the steps into God. Worshipping the steps instead of worshiping God. Instead of trying to keep my keep and grow and and and improve my conscious contact with god, I would turn the steps into our god and I would just use use them like a keyboard.

Press the button when I saw it, you know, oh, I feel like a 4 step and I press the 4 step and I would write inventory And then, we'd do a 5th step. You know, it's it's you you you you can do this. You can do anything you want in AA. You can come here for the coffee. You can come here for the girls or the men or whatever, you know, But you can also come here for healing.

Real healing. And it it doesn't really just come by getting a sponsor. I know a lot of guys that got that got a sponsor and and a great and some great sponsors. And they they work the the they work the steps and got a home group and blah blah blah, but they really really really never committed themselves to AA. They never went all the way.

They didn't want AA to be anything except what their minds idea of AA was. They didn't want there was once a princess. A small, really small princess and she lived into in this castle with a 1,000 rooms And when when she got older her father the king said to her you can go into every cat every room in the castle except this one. Except this one. You cannot go into that room ever.

And the little princess never went into the room and she lived happily ever after. You see? If you don't take the step, if if if you don't do it, then the adventure is is not for you. No. The end of the adventure will be coming to meetings and listening to people like me, who have had their lives changed.

That will be the end of the adventure. Great. Then, I'm a great guy, and tomorrow I'll go back to Iceland, and you'll never see me again. But this is only the beginning of the adventure. It really is.

And and for me it happened by committing myself to AA. I said to myself, I'm going to do AA because my life depends on it. And this this here can't be the end of the line. It just can't. There is more.

And I have 1 more at every every step of the way, every step of the way. And I've got free of stuff that you wouldn't even believe. And you wouldn't even believe. This is this is this is this is life changing stuff we're dealing with here. We're we're dealing with life and death.

Most of us die if we don't do it. Most of us die, and I and I know I can't scare you with death. And I know I'm not here to scare you with death. I'm I'm here to pull you with a vision because my life is not the same and it's not because of something that happened 5 years ago, 4 years ago, or something. It's something that happened this week.

You know? I got free of stuff this week I I never thought I would even have to get free of. Small stuff. You know? I have luxury problems.

With luxury problems real luxury problems my my biggest my biggest concern during the last year is getting making myself more accessible. Making myself more reachable by everyone in AA. Everyone who who who who could use my help. You know, not just to the people that I approve of beforehand. Just anybody who reaches out and then and and wants help.

Because, you know, it's not because my understanding of the steps is so great and blah blah blah blah blah. You know, do you have the preamble here? No. Then it's not even inside the book. No.

The a preamble says that There you go. Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength, and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism. I'm gonna read what I thought it said. Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength, and hope with each other that they may solve their common problems and help others recover from alcoholism It's not the same. We're not here to help others recover from alcoholism.

I can't really help real alcoholics. I can inspire them, but I can't really help them. Only God can help them. I can be a I can be a channel. I can be a catalyst for God, but I can't really help them.

I help them to recover from alcoholism. I help them so that I recover from alcoholism. Not so they recover from alcoholism, The the the difference is 2. I help others too recover from alcoholism. And and and I don't know if you know it, but that's your job too.

That's your job too. If you're not working with others, you're missing a lot Just this week. I've I've I've witnessed 2 miracles Just in the last week, 2 miracles. A sponsor of mine who who raped his best friend made some made amends today, called me on the phone. And, you know, that's that's courage.

That's courage. And it's hard stuff we do. We do hard stuff. We're not here because we just were ashamed or whatever. We're here because we can't help ourselves.

And I can't really help you. Not really, not truly, but God can through me. I applied the the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous in my life and and and my life changed. When when I was when my sponsor was taking me through the steps, he had me read the book to him out loud. It's not the way to do it, it's a way to do it.

And I read, practical experience shows that nothing will so much ensure immunity from drinking as intensive work with other alcoholics. It works when other activities fail. And he would say, wait a minute. What was that? And I said, well well well, yeah.

It was practical experience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That what what did it say?

Practical experience. Practical experience. My experience, my friend Carrie's experience, shows that nothing will so much ensure immunity from drinking as intensive work with other alcoholics. It works when other activities fail. There's a sentence missing here.

This is our 12th suggestion, carrying this message to other alcoholics. You can help when other else can, no one else can. You, not me, you. You can secure their confidence when others fail. Remember they are very ill.

The kick you will get is tremendous, and it really is. I have not only just cleaned up my life. I'm but by the way, today, I'm current. I'm current with everybody. I don't know of any unfinished demands.

I have some payments to make at the back, but I'm current with everybody. Everybody. I've not only changed my life, I've changed I've I've affected the life of countless of others, truly. And it's it's not because I'm great, because it it's because I made a decision to make this my lab way of life to help others get nothing in return I wanted to take part in the miracle. I really did.

And what I got was a miracle. I'm done. Thank you.