9th Young People's Roundup in Las Vegas, NV

9th Young People's Roundup in Las Vegas, NV

▶️ Play 🗣️ Jimmy W. ⏱️ 1h 16m 📅 12 Mar 1988
We had a water over that table. Turn that light on. Well you can't see here, you're there all right. It's good too. It's cold out on the golf course day, it's going to be warm next week.
Just wanted to let you know how you and your high fire getting along. Whoever was doing it was mixed up, got him on next week instead of this week. I'd like to thank Larry and Bob and Karen and for inviting me in the committee and Jim for taking care of me there on the golf course, Connie to keep me in order today and keep the other 2 guys from not telling what they were thinking. Jim Williams that I played with said that he wasn't coming tonight after the golf game. I understood that for God's sakes.
I tried to go with him. And Chris, wherever you are that picked me up, Chris has a sign there that has that triangle on it. But I wasn't too sure that it was our I thought it might be some other cult so I didn't know it was mine or not. So I let him walk around for about 30 minutes to make sure it was me. He couldn't find anybody so I thought, well, I'll go with him.
What's that? I'm paranoid. I like it. Don't get me wrong. I don't want to give it up.
I didn't think I was going to play well today and I was right. I just like to be right. That's all. I'm schizophrenic and psychiatrists like it so I'm gonna keep that. I'm manic depressive and I love that.
Lot of people can't do that without anything happening, but we can and I like it. Who in hell wants to feel good all day for God's sake? And night 2, I wouldn't even think about it. How are you gonna ever get any better if you don't feel bad? Bad?
I like to wake up at 3 in the morning, ask God to help me be sure and be when I go back to sleep I'll be dead at 7. And you have to get up and come out of it, Start feeling good again. Well, I'm Jim Williams, now an alcoholic. I'm really, I don't look like an alcoholic. I'm not supposed to be an alcoholic.
My folks did not say look, we're gonna make you an alcoholic. My folks said we're gonna make you a southern southern baptist. Now y'all probably don't know what they are, but they're the real ones, you know. You know, we're the ones that pray for the Catholics. Well we're afraid they're not gonna make it and they drink, you know.
Presbyterian, of course hell they just knew it was gonna happen and Episcopalians they just got tired of being Catholics. Methodists, of course, they just didn't like water. I think I like to be a Lutheran. They believe in doing everything just a little bit. Out in Texas, you got 254 counties and 250 of them are dry which means we don't sell it, we don't believe in it, we don't believe in anything.
Anything feels good, watch it. We would not have believed in having children. We couldn't dance because you get close to women. And if we'd had this envelope deal, we never would have had children the way to do it. We just don't blame in doing it.
And if you do do it, we talk about you. And we'll kick you out if you get bad. They raised me on this baddest bench and had a guy stand up just like me said, if you think it you might as well done it. Hell I knew I must have figured it. Even though I didn't know what it was I know I must be thinking it.
They point your finger at you. We'll sing this last stanza for that one right back there. They point right at you. No. It's not like a.
They said well, so Bob landed this last night. He lives, we'll get him. This bunch, they just hone in on you. They know what the deal is happening. You're gonna start they start to see the gleaming.
Yeah. They know next you're gonna think it, then you're gonna do it. And they they can't stand to see anybody do it. So one day after school, when I got to be about 13 which will happen to you if you do what I was doing one day at a time. I got in this car with this girl and got those funny feelings.
Now I told So I met him before the service, they said what you need to do is get saved. I said what from? Haven't done nothing. And I said I said what? They said when they make the call this morning, come down the aisle.
So when they pointed at me, I came down the aisle and I was scared. My throat hurt and it's kinda like a except don't give out any chips. They hug you and kiss you and tell you how great you are. And you know you're not, but hell I like it. And they put you in the tank and the hand just leaks.
You choke a little, but you come out alright. Went to school the next day and saw that girl. Came right back. I said, well, I guess we'll have to do it again. It didn't take.
They said no, you just don't do it. Well, they didn't know. I didn't know how to don't do anything. I didn't know. I didn't know how to don't do anything.
I didn't know if they just say don't do that. They didn't do it anymore. I said well how do you don't do it? Don't think about it. I said I wonder why I didn't think about that.
I thought well it's 2 o'clock now, dude I'll just go ahead and think about it today, then tomorrow when I get up, hell I won't even think about it anymore. Got up next day and thought about it more than ever thought about it before in the life. I had no idea that I'm the kind of guy when I start not to do something. I'm gonna do it all the time. When I start not to think about it, that's all I'm gonna think about.
I used to try to wake up real quick before I thought about it. Finally got out of high school. Had to go to summer school, get out of high school. I don't think I was telling them I was just busy. You know, we're tied up a lot.
You know, a guy said, I passed you in the car yesterday and you didn't even speak to me. I said, I was having a meeting. He said it wasn't anybody there, but you and I said right. They don't realize that we have group meetings just by ourselves. I heard about this town, it was 30 miles away.
It was wild and wicked. So I've got my buddy and I said, next Saturday we're going to go over at this town and we're going to go and find out what to do in these beer joints. And I'd heard about them and that's why I knew you could do it during the week. So we slipped over there on Saturday afternoon and walked in that beer joint and my lord, there was that deacon with a warm girl in one hand and a cold beer in the other. I said my god let's get out of here, he'll tell Jesus on us We didn't even get to do it.
You know if you get caught before you do it, you ought to forget it. This guy said, well, he can't tell anybody but I knew he had a better shot with Jesus than I did. You know, I thought deacons were just sad. You know, I like the girl he's with on Saturday night a lot better than what he's with on Sunday morning. And I'd see him on Sunday mornings and I just thought deacons were sad.
Now I know he was just tired. I drank 2 beers, didn't taste good, didn't feel good, and I was glad to get out there. Next day, I got up. I want to go to church first time in my life because I thought maybe I have noticed maybe you get old enough. You don't have to go.
There he was. Sad like he always was. Then I had the my first spiritual awakening. Maybe you can do it a little bit and just don't tell anybody. God, I couldn't wait to get to my buddy.
I said next Saturday, we're gonna go back big town, had 2 joints, went to the other joint, didn't see a deacon I knew, didn't see anybody I knew, walked in there and learned how to do everything but commit adultery. I'd have done that but didn't know much about it. And you know how we are. If we drink 1 beer and forget it, think about it all day long. Then if we do, we don't know whether it is or not.
I didn't know I was getting ready to live a life of I don't know. I learned how to drink. Didn't even know I knew how to drink. You just drink one beer right after the other. Good feeling is good, scared, feel it all.
Learned how to dance. Southern Baptist is not allowed to dance. Fell down the dance floor. Broke my nose. Did it 5 times after learning how to do it.
Blacked out just like I supposed to, wake up the next morning, threw up just like I've been doing it for years. This guy called and said, how do you feel? I said, my god. I feel horrible. He said, oh, but you had a great time.
I said, oh, well. Then I knew how to get have a good time. Just go out and get drunk, blackout, wake up, just one throw up, then you know you had a good time. Did not know you drank it any other way. I thought that people who didn't drink like I drank, didn't drink.
I just saw them put I even see them put bourbon in milk. I've never done it. Never I never I don't I don't even recommend it. The milk moved when they put it in. Some of them put fruit in it.
That's where you get to get all the acid from. I didn't make those mistakes. So finally I'm over there 1 afternoon and I'm by myself putting off getting drunk and I walked by this post office and there's sign out there said we need you and I walked in there and they did. This guy said have you ever been to California? I said no.
I've been 30 miles away from home. We're going tomorrow. I said, let me sign that deal. Then I went home to see my folks to tell them about the news and my folks were already saying things like, Jimmy wants to do this. No.
I didn't either. I didn't wanna do it at all. Jimmy doesn't ever do that. Yeah. I did.
Oh, he's done it once. Get ready to do it again. They already knew what I wanted to do and it was never never what I wanted to do. And I was already not fitting in everywhere. I tried to fit in with a group.
I'd go places with the kids just so I could fit in with them and they never liked me enough and I couldn't get it up. I just they just didn't like me enough. I just couldn't fit in. Couldn't get in. I went back the next day to this thing where I'd signed up and already told my folks, my folks are already looking at me funny when I tell them things.
I told them they just look at me a blank wall and I'm going and I went over there and they went. I should have known then they live one day at a time. And when I got down and sat, there's a funny bunch. They got up in the middle of the night, made their bed real quick. Somebody's coming, never did.
Then we'd go eat even if you hadn't been drunk, makes you sick eating that time in the morning, not even daylight yet. Then they always walked in groups scared, I guess. And whoever it was running our outfit decided we ought to go on a surprise anybody to know where we were going so they couldn't tell us and they thought it would be great if we didn't know where we were going. Some kind of game. And we were in the air force, so whoever it was decided we ought to go to China and we went to China by boat.
I think what they did, they flew the navy over and the marines ran the boat. There's a lot of Chinese over there. They have a few trees and a couple of hills and some rice, but they mainly just have Chinese. There's no smog or anything involved and they just like to make Chinese. They're not interested in getting into anything else and they're good at it and they like it and they lose some but they're making submitted and hell it doesn't make it in there.
Well, after you've been over about 3 weeks, you've seen all the Chinese you'll ever need to see. So I told them I was ready to come home and we stayed 2 years and we came back by boat. Then my folks went over I'm going to school and said my god I couldn't get out of school and went to school, failed in high school, had to go summer school. I hate school. Not going to school.
If you don't have that piece of paper, you won't even be able to apply for a job, let alone get one. You will have to have that piece of paper. I proved my folks wrong. I gutted that thing straight through three and a half years and I didn't learn one single thing. I made sure upfront before I took the course that I was gonna pass it and that it wouldn't benefit a human being whatsoever.
You know what I like about you and I? We'll go to any length even if it destroys us just to be right. A lot of people won't do that. A lot of people say, well I could be wrong about that. Not you and I.
The only time we'll ever use that statement is when we're damn sure we're right. Then we might say well I could be wrong about that. Well I got out of school, I was very I didn't mind working part time Then when you get out of school they want you to work full time and on Mondays. Nobody should work on Mondays. That was my flu day on Mondays.
And I was having some minor difficulties with women. If you put 10 pretty girls up there, I'll get the sick one every time. I don't know where I learned how to do that. I see some guys, they just go with any girl. You can't go with it.
Just any girl. You got to make sure you got a pretty girl. It's somebody you can take home and show to your folks and be in love with. You just can't go with any girl for God's sake. 1 girl, 1 week, 1 girl next week.
Nothing wrong with being the way I was is when you walk around with no girl and then love. It's awkward to do it. Take me about 2 months to find that precious sick little thing. Then in about 2 more months, we'd be so much in love, I'd almost have to quit work. Then they just deteriorate from there on out.
When I got into a, I said, this this is the most fantastic place I've ever been. It's the first time I've ever been where they had the sick women group. And I like both kinds. I like the ones that got sick doing it and the ones that got sick watching him do it. I don't know why that god seemed to have assigned us to make sure that all businesses operated according to our will.
But it seemed like it was necessary for me to make sure everybody did right. That's hard doing your work and getting everything straightened out and keeping it going. Some of the places that fired me are still operating doing it wrong. Finally got out of a job and I couldn't get one. And the way I'd look for jobs, I'd get up every morning and I throw up and spray.
Then I go fill out one of those forms that ask you personal questions like, where have you worked the last 10 years? It's not their business. They won't know where you live. How are you gonna remember all those addresses? Then the other blanks, you've got to say, wonder what they'd like for me to say.
You don't know them too well, you know. And then you just fail in the interview and go get drunk and I did that. I saved this one place after about 6 or 7 days. I saved this one place that I knew they had an opening and I knew the guy was there and I knew I'd get the job. And I walked in there and that guy saw me and said, oh my God, you don't want this job.
I said, yeah. I want that job. I got to have a job. I saved this place. I really wanted this job.
You don't want this job. Also knew there's something about me he wanted to tell me, but he didn't know how to do it. And I also knew that he's gonna like it better when I left. So I went out and got drunk, wake up next morning. I said, you know, I've been doing this for about 10 days.
I think I'll just take the day off. So I went out the golf course and ate no egg, no piece of toast, went around the beer joint where my last spiritual adviser worked. And he said, my god, man. You look horrible. I said, yeah.
I think I'm coming down with something. He said, my god. The way you're shaking, drink this beer. I said, oh, my god. I'm Baptist.
We never drink before noon. That's 10:30. It's only 9 o'clock. He said, drink the beer. I drank half that beer and sprayed the golf course with it.
I don't mind spraying if I don't lose my concentration. Start thinking about women or something against your nose and burns. Then you got to drink the rest of day just to kill the pain. And I knew how to meditate before I got here. I never meditate that deeply anymore.
It's just when it's me, God, and the commode. And you say, oh God, and it's stringy and you don't know where the end is and you can't breathe because you get it all back. So you don't know whether you're staying or going. You know, they always notice even in the hot summertime when you meditate like that, it's tiring and you'd lean over there and that bowl was always just as cool. I told this guy, I said, I think I better go home and lie down.
I didn't get to use the vibrators in these motels till 2 years after I was sober because I could just vibrate all by myself. And I left to live with me. I get up I get up in the morning. I was supposed to call all the hospitals. I'd get in the car and I'd go.
I said, God, I hate to hit that old big hospital. Hard time to find a parking place and then you gotta take that kit, go through the lobby and down to the wind down the basement, go see that purchasing agent. You know him. Hell, he's not gonna buy anything anyway. So you don't even need to stop.
Just drive right on by. Wait till 10:30, go to beer joint, had another bad day again today. So I went home and I got in the living room and I decided that what I I do is commit suicide. Then those guys that didn't hire me would worry about it for the rest of their days. I was living in Houston and I said they'll see in the Houston Chronicle, Jim Williams commit suicide.
They'll never get over it. I didn't know how to do it. Now I see it on television all the time now, suicide, call that number. They probably have pamphlets and everything about a group suicide. They lack the courage to commit suicide, come meet with us.
I didn't like guns. This was even before overdose was popular. You know we believed in the old turkey days. It's cold turkey. All three suicides, I was sound in mind and body.
I just failed. That's all. And overdose, of course, you're just gonna remember the pump. I didn't like guns in the morning because I don't like noise in the morning and they splatter all over everything. Razor blades were popular then, but they didn't tell you what to do.
They didn't tell you what kind of blade. Didn't tell you where is your wrist, how how long is your wrist, which wrist, where do you cut your how deep do you cut it? No, no, and I had nobody to call. I knew you couldn't do it in the living room, you get blood all over the carpet and I'm always thinking of others. So I went in the bathroom, got my razor blade.
I had sense enough even though I've never done it before that if you just cut the left wrist, left side died, right side be alive. What if you backed out half dead half life? I knew I need to cut both wrists so I could die and bleed evenly. And I'm just sitting there on the throne listening to the drip and the phone rang and it was the police. And they said, where were you last time?
I said, I was right here. They said, oh, no. You wasn't. I said, how do you know? We is there.
Then I didn't wanna talk to them anymore. I'd already learned don't ever talk to anybody no more about where you've been than you do. I said, well, what do you want me to do? He said, well, you can either come down here. We'll come back out there and get you.
I said, I'll be right there. He said, if I were you, I'll pick up an attorney on the way. And I said, that'll take me an extra 30 minutes, but wait for me. I'm coming. God, I love to live with me.
I can live a week and a half a day. I've had a hell of a day. Been out to golf course, ate breakfast, threw up, had a big meeting and now I came in and committed suicide. Now I've got to call an emergency meeting and it's only 11 o'clock. So I decided I didn't either one of those options that guy gave me.
I thought well what I'll do is Houston hadn't been too good to me, lady, I think I'll just leave town. So I had some little quilts and pillows and dirty clothes and clean clothes. I just threw them all. I had just room for me in the car, had one piece of furniture, an old lamp and a lampshade. I guess I was gonna carry the light if I could find the plug.
Got the card, mailed the key to the folks that owned the place and ended up a 100 and had $36 which was plenty to start a new career before inflation started. Waked up the next barn about a 180 miles away with $7. I said, I wonder how my folks are getting along. It's amazing. Sometimes it's just get a burning desire to hear from your folks.
So I call them collect so they know it was me. My folks says, what are you doing? Where are you? I said, I'm in Brownwood. They said, what are you doing?
I said, I'll just out riding around. They said, why don't you come by and have a cup of coffee? I said, oh, believe it will. I never short changed my folks. They're not gonna get their money back so I always give my very finest story.
In fact, I've got to listen to it and it was so horrible, hell, I cried Willow. I thought, my god. If I had known that, I'd left Houston 3 years earlier. Finally, John says, well, old Jimmy's honest. Let him have a 100.
With a 107, you can almost go into business. I knew I just had to sweat that down out so I sweated out, got up the next morning, turned around and I said, Annalise, there's one little thing I left out last night. While I was going through all that hell in Houston, I was drinking some. But I decided after last night I shall never drink again as long as I live. You'll never have to worry about my being under financed, and you won't have to worry about me anymore.
Well, I got in the car and I know where to go. And I've got a $107 so when I take a little vacation? And I knew a guy that was in the Rio Grande Valley that I'd gotten a job down there, helped him get a job about 5 or 6 years before that. So I thought I'd go down and see him. Just only a little old.
I found out it was a 10 hour drive. You know where it is. You all got some just right down there south, they got a little creek. They changed countries to get down there. Almost the end.
It is the end. If you really want to find your bottom, it's a good place right down there. So I drove right out of Fort Worth, stopped at the first filling station, said how far is the Waco? They said 79 miles. They happen to sell beer.
I said let me have 3. So I end up at the Rio Grande Valley and I moved into this beautiful hotel where I had to park across street and for 3 solid weeks I went down there where he worked every day trying to get a job and every morning I never took my clothes in. I'd come down the elevator, go over and get my shorts, socks, shirt, go up, take a shower, come back, did that for 3 solid weeks. They finally hired me. Now they didn't hire me because they wanted to, they hire you because nobody goes down there applying for jobs.
They just go down there to play at snow dodge. So they hired me and for some reason when I'd go to work at a place if there was a guy in my place early morning, I was an early morning man, well then I'd have to move him over, get him fired and move into his place and I did that there. And I was there just a few months and I could just get drunk and not drunk drunk till I could get up and learn everything about the business. And this manager came over one afternoon when I was just too tired to go get drunk. I was going to rest about 30 minutes and he came over and knocked on the door and said, you've been here almost 8 months.
I think we need to get better acquainted. I said, yeah. You wanna have a beer? I said, oh I guess 1. He was a drunk just like me.
He and I lasted there 8 years and he screwed up, got fired. Then they fired me and the other drunk. I'm still trying to get married and I figured out that what I've been doing all my life is wrong. I've been the kind of guy that just tries to go with 1 woman. Then when they go to pot, there I am in love with no woman.
So what I need is a number 1 and a spare. My days are just like this. I worked Monday through Saturday noon, jumped in the car, ran to the golf course, had a heavy lunch like a 6 pack of the cheese cracker, got drunk, blacked out in bed by 6:30 quarter 7th up with dry mouth and all at a quarter 11:11 o'clock and go down to my joint, finish it, and they'd close at 1 o'clock. Then we drive over to Matamoros and finish the evening. Then some mornings around daylight we'd have at the Texas bar and throw it up or sometimes we just skip it and drink beer and tape it off into Monday and sometimes you made it and sometimes you missed it.
This particular weekend, I decided to trade off with a guy so I'm up and drinking on Friday night after 9 o'clock which is late for me during the week and I'm blacking out. And you know how we are sometimes we're just so honest some people can't handle it. So, evidently, I had never mentioned to her about number 2. So I just mentioned that I thought maybe I'd drop by and see her on the way home, but I wanted to go to bathroom first and she follows me in there. And you should you know how to put in carpets in bathrooms now?
Because people are insisting on having meetings in bathrooms. You should not have meetings in bathroom. You need to meet out where you got couches and carpet beds. Don't meet in the bathroom. It's hard surface places in the bathroom.
She followed me in there to discuss it. Now I don't remember what happened, of course. The next morning, I'm living in an old faded green trailer behind the motel. I had the rock yards a long time before they started putting them in. We just come up there and I'd say, you'll never make it.
I've already learned to wake up in total fright in my own bed and I'm laying there asleep and something goes. Jumped up there, looked down, still have my clothes on. I said, oh my god. I bet I was going somewhere early this morning. Looked down that old white shirt, had blood on it.
Blood makes me sick, you know. And I'm in total fright. I know it's the police. I feel like, oh, got knots on the head. Uh-oh.
Had a car wreck. I wrecked my car. That's police that wrecked my car. They're coming after me right now. You can't get out of those trailers.
There's little windows about like that. They keep beating on the door. So I opened the door and there stands that 240 pound 6 foot 4 baptist preacher saying, come and go along with me. I said, preacher, I'm sorry. I can't make it.
I know I look like I'm ready. I don't know where the meeting is, but I can't make it. I just can't make it. I may look like I'm ready, but I cannot go. He said, get in the car.
My head's killing me and I'm in total fright. And I look at my car and it looks like it's okay. Park funny, but it looks like it's okay. So I get in the car and I said, preacher, I'm gonna have to have a beer. I cannot make it.
I'm not I'm not breathing. I can't I'm not breathing. You know what? Baptist preachers do not give a damn whether you're breathing or not. I said I'm not gonna make it.
Wherever it is, where the meeting is, I am not going to make it. He said there'll be no drinking before the meeting. We drove up in front of her house and I assume it's gonna be there. Heads killing me, got knots on it, low blood still coming. And we walked in and she did look like she might have fallen in a bush or something.
And I said, well, I've got to go to the bathroom and I went in that bath room and looked in that mirror and I'm gonna tell you something she won. I probably will never know what happened, but what I think really happened That I probably lost my equilibrium and fell in that bathtub and she stepped on me. 2 weeks later, we got married. We got married to First Baptist Church so it worked. We got married at 10 o'clock in the morning so there'd be no drinking before the funeral ceremony.
I was up on Friday night again and I told her that it wasn't necessary since she had been married before and I was pure, that it wasn't necessary for us to invite a lot of people but she could have a few close Well, I'm blacking out at 11 o'clock on Friday night, so I get on the phone and call till 3 in the morning. And I get to the church and my beer distributor friend comes out and said, I'm gonna tell you something. You called me at a quarter of 3 this morning. I just want to tell you we didn't come here to see you get married. We came here because we don't believe it and the longest bet in your marriage is 3 weeks, but I showed them.
I hung it in there for 8 years, but my life changed. I had no idea how nice it was to get up and throw up in peace. I was always gonna quit smoking because it made me gag good morning. So I grabbed those cigarettes and grabbed that coffee and go in that bathroom and locked that door and she'd tell me what I was through that door. Then I'd have to get upset, go make the living, get drunk, come on tell her what she was.
We did that one day at a time. Finally, I went back to that preacher and I said, preacher, this thing is not working. He said, you know what's wrong with you? You're missing the beauty of life. I said, yeah.
Did you know the fruit trees were in bloom? I said, no. He said, what you need to do is go home and get your wife and get in the car and drive up the valley, smell the aroma, and look at the blossoms. I said, yeah. So I got in the car.
What I won't do is I said, get the car. She said, what for? I said, we're gonna go look at the blossoms. She said, the blossoms? I said, yeah.
We're missing the whole damn thing. We get in the car and I go by and get a 6 pack, drive up to Valley, see a sign that says 14 miles to Mount of Marsh, turn left, went to Mount of Marsh, switched tequila, blacked out, missed the whole damn thing. Lost that job, couldn't get one, went crazy, tried to find one for about 2 months and a guy who managed a drug company that I've been drunk with many, many times hired me. Took him about 6 weeks to send me to Fort Stockton, Texas. Now that's West, West Texas.
We got a little freeze out there about that high. You can see California on a clear day. 536 people live there and 36 of them were making a living. I joined the 500. I'm supposed to stand in a drugstore and help put a pad on my arm and write stuff like reamycin and you can't even spin it alone keeping those lines.
And I'm moving. I'm just moving. And that pharmacist says, my god, man. You look like you're gonna fly apart. I said, any minute.
He said, well, take some of these. This was for Valium. I understand Valium, both eyes crossed and you walk straight. This was just Librium which is absolutely nothing. It's just little green and little bitty green and black or 2 tone green.
All it is, just nothing in it. I took a couple of them and I waited 15 or 20 seconds and nothing happened. Nothing burned or moved or did anything so I took 3 more and then my knee just went. I said, god, I know how to weave. Now I've got to learn new stents.
I guess it can't do it anymore. It used to tickle me when the guy would say, pharmacy say, I'm low as short 10 milligrams. 25 be okay. I'll be fine. Fine.
Same size. You know, alcoholics don't go over the milligram. We go over the size. Take 10 of one size, take 10 of same side. Finally ended up a guy recommending me for a job back in Houston.
They hadn't seen me in 10, 12 years and I got that job and I got back to Houston and moved into these apartments and old what's her name and I had developed such a nice sweet hate for one another that we were relatively safe because the one that died first won. But we felt like it was better and safer and best for all concerned if we had separate bedroom just in case so we could sleep a little more comfortably. So we set up battle and none of my customers saw me drunk for the 1st 9 months and then the day before Christmas Eve of 1965, I played golf with these customers and their in laws and out laws and went over to their house and blacked out. There's nothing new. I'm a blackout driver.
Never had a wreck blacked out, lots of wrecks drunk, never blacked out. Not a good drunk driver, great blackout driver, and drank the blackout, went home blacked out and I left their house blacked out and went from one side of Houston to the other. It's nothing new for me. I'm a black eyed driver, drilling that way for years and wake up the next morning in total fright just like I was supposed to, looked out to see if my car was back. I didn't quit asking it how it got back.
Walk around with no new dents, no blood and then I'd pick up the phone and call back and say, I sure am sorry about last night. I wasn't sorry about last night. I want them to tell me what I did and they never tell you. And they don't have to make amends so we'll never know. They just say, Jim, it was okay, you just got drunk.
Drunk was getting to be a bad word for me. Things like we can't have him invite him anymore. We can't be around him anymore because I can't stand him when he's drinking. So I was getting the message. I'm not an alcoholic.
I guess, heard on radio. I picked up the phone over what's her name and gone next door that's getting ready to have a Christmas Eve party, and I looked up under alcoholics anonymous and called in a group. Called that girl, I guess she's shack like she's glad I called. I should've known then I had the wrong number. She said somebody will be right out.
Well, I waited an hour. Nobody showed up. It's 10:15, looked at the ice box. Had 3 beers. I said, I'll just call them back.
Tell them I don't need them. About that time this phone rang, guy said, I'll be right there. Before I could tell him I didn't need him, hell, he hung up. I said, well, I'll just get rid of him because it's I've got some beer and it's Christmas Eve. No.
He's talking to those people now. And he came by himself because he and his wife were managing these apartments when I moved in and they used to watch me going back and forth from 711 and saying, if he lives, we'll get him. And I looked out there and he looked like one of those deacons with a book under his arm and sour looking and I said, oh hell, we're gonna read that book and pray. I've not only been baptized, I've been rededicated 10 times. I'll just get rid of him.
He came in, we didn't read the book, we didn't pray. I don't know what he said and I don't know what I said. But that time, I'll watch her name. He came back in. He said, do you wanna go with me?
Well, I didn't, but it's better to stay with her. So I got in the car. We hit that old 610 loop in Houston that I knew then. I'd gone off with a wrong I'd gone off with a perfect stranger. I know better than that.
He's not my kind of guy. I should've taken my car, and I said, well, I'll give him the test. I said, I'll buy a beer. I don't want a beer. I knew it.
Damn it. So I waited about 20 more seconds because I wanna tell you something. I got bad drunk last night, and I wanna tell you something. If I don't have a beer and have one right now, I'll quit breathing. I have got to have it.
I gotta have a beer right now. Besides that, it's 11:20. He said, can you wait till we get to the club? Oh, yeah. I can do that.
I can handle fright if I got a little light. And we drove we drove over kind of a bad neighborhood, drove up from this old rickety looking house. I said, this it? He said, yeah. I thought, well, when I get some money, I'll help these folks.
We walked in there and some of those deacons were sitting over there talking about women in the stock market. We found out later on they didn't know anything about either one And they had no bar back there in the back of the bar. It didn't look a hell lot better than I did. There's a program of attraction. You know?
Walked back up there and that little deacon says, mix him up a little milk and honey. I said, my God. What do you put in it? I never drank anything like that in my life. He said, well, you see, you're nervous.
I said, hell, that's what I've been trying to tell you. And he said, and besides all that, you're used to sugar in your system from know, if you throw up right, you don't have indigestion. Know, if you throw up right, you don't have indigestion. I drank it, drank about half of it and and it curdled and came right back up. He said don't worry about it, we have plenty.
Oh, hell. I wanna put on a show for these guys. And one of the smart ones said, walk all you want to. I didn't wanna walk at all. Now I was walking up down.
He said, you got a new animal in here today watching you laughing, talking. Just watching you walking up down and drinking a sweet, sweet, sick, sick. Oh, almost tasted sick. I hadn't had a piece of chocolate fine 10 years. Finally, about 4 o'clock, guys said, well, I guess we're gonna go home.
I said, yeah. I said, let me out about 2 blocks in the park. But I was going to slip in and get my car because I knew I was going to have to get some bourbon because beer would not cut that sweet taste. He said, don't drink anything. I'm gonna pick you up in an hour and a half.
I said, what for? We're going to a meeting. I said, where? Right back where we came from. I said, my god, we was there all day.
I said, well just let me out. Now I walked and walked and here he comes and back over there we go. It's kind of a funny bunch. I saw 2 or 3 of them kind of laughing and hugging and kissing. The rest of them, they didn't like they didn't look like they're too damn happy to be there either.
Then they got upset with a little prayer. Some girl got up and talked 2 or 3 hours. They said just 30 minutes but I know it's longer than that. And they just laughed. It wasn't a damn thing, funny.
Some guy got up, talked 3 or 4 hours, then they just laughed. I said, I'm gonna tell you something. This is a sick bunch of people. These people are in bad shape. This bunch is.
Then they got up all hell hell hands. Said the Lord's prayer. The Holy Spirit moved in there. Everyone of them started talking same time. Nobody listened.
That thing just exploded. I said I wonder how the hell he did that. I said I'm gonna keep my eyes open more night. They didn't sing any songs, lay any hands. They didn't do anything.
I wanna see what he did. We're standing back there, me and this deacon. Nobody's paying any attention to us. And I'm already catching on. I probably got the wrong guy.
Then I saw the deal. Men and women getting together, holding hands, jumping in those cars, taking off. I said, oh, well. After a year while, get to go to some of these apartments and have a little drink, talk about this damn thing. We went night after night after night after night.
Nobody invited us anywhere. One night it was just raining. It doesn't rain in Houston, it just falls out. And this guy called and said, pick you up in 30 minutes. I said, it's raining.
Did you ever go get a drink when it's raining? I'll be ready. And 1 night or 1 weekend, oh, what's the name? And going back the valley, see if we had any friends left. So I just pulled out all the shades, turned out all the lights, had nothing on but the TV set.
That old phone just ring, ring, ring, let it ring. Next morning, he called and said, where were you last night? I said, I was right here watching television, enjoyed every damn minute of it, and I think I'm gonna do it again tonight. He said, well, you missed it. I said, what did I miss?
He said, I don't know. I I said, wasn't you there? He said, yeah. But I only heard what I was supposed to hear. We'll never know what it was you're supposed to hear.
My god. You gotta go every night. You'll miss it. So I went 3 months, got drunk, 3 months, got drunk, 3 months, got drunk and sobered up all by myself. And then I decided for one of my special meetings that the only thing wrong with me is I'm not an alcoholic.
I have just always been under financed. So what I need to do is just get properly financed, then I could quit her, leave them, and I'll be okay. So I thought do first things first. I've already learned some things. First thing you need to do is go back and officially resign and tell them thank you very much.
So I start back and evidently some night while I was drinking about 2:30 in the morning which I doubt very seriously, they'll tell you anything, you know. They know they're lying. They've been here longer than you and they'll tell you anything I think these big hotshot sponsors will. So he seemed to think that I called him some morning about 2:30, he's probably somebody else. So before I could resign, here he comes after meeting walking up there looking mad like he does half the time.
Said before I could tell him I resign, he said, don't you ever call me again. I said, god, I'm glad you said that. I never called you in the first place. They called you. And I'm gonna tell you something your best friends will not tell you.
Nobody likes you here. We don't get invited anywhere and they don't know me so it's got to be you. And I'm gonna tell you another thing. If I had as bad a personality as you do, I'd go back to drinking. And you'll never have to worry about me ever calling you ever again if you're the last human being on this earth.
You'll never hear from me ever again. And I left and he did the next morning. And I called him the next morning. One day at a time. Right?
I'd heard somewhere that every day was a new day, I doubt it but they said it. And he said, meet me at the club. And I walked in the club, he said, get your coffee and sit down and talk to you like a dog here, you know. So I'm gonna tell you something about alcoholics anonymous, alanine, alatine, alatine, alatine, ala dog. There's absolutely no failure here.
Has not, will not, never will, impossible to, cannot fail. There's just no failure here provided you do exactly what we tell you to do the way we tell you to do it. He said there's only one thing that you're gonna get to do for the rest of your days. You're the only one that's gonna get to do it, but this is the only one thing that you're ever gonna get to do from now on out. You're gonna get to decide every day whether you're gonna go our way of life or your way of life.
If you don't give an alcoholic a decision to make, they'll flounder on the same subject for years. So we're gonna give you a decision to make this morning. Whether you're either gonna go our way of life or go right back out that door. I said, I don't want to do either one. He said, I didn't ask you what you wanted to do.
I asked you what you were going to do. I said, do you mean tell me you don't care what I want to or not? He said, not at all. Group doesn't care? No.
I said, well, you'll make it perfectly clear to group that I don't want to do it, then I'll let it. You say, well first of all, they gotta get some things straight. It's your thinking that's wrong. I said, how much am I thinking wrong? We always start with all of it.
And if there's any good, we'll let you know. I said you put a sign up there on the wall that says think, think, think and he said that's for us. He said, now we're gonna give you some things not to do and some things to do. The things we're gonna give you not to do is gonna change. The things we'll give you to do, you'll just add to.
Then it's gonna happen over here. I said, what's gonna happen over there? We don't know, but it always happens. I said, I'm gonna tell you something. I've been listening to every word you said.
Said. You never listen to me. And I want you to hear me. I do not understand. He said, and that's it.
And don't you ever forget it. He said there's 2 things that you must remember for the rest of your days. No matter what's going on in your life you do not understand, then you'll have understanding. And when you quit trying to understand, then you can enjoy it. And no matter what your situation is, it's never the situation.
It's never them, it's never God, it's you that must become different. You must become different than you have ever been before. I said, how do I do that? He said, oh, you can't. I said, what the hell you tell me for then?
He said, that's what's gonna happen to you. Now I'm gonna give you the kicker. This is the very one thing that got you here but it's also the very one thing that should it not change, will be the one thing that's gonna keep you from getting all the things that God has for his children. As long as you know that you know, you'll never know. But when you begin to do what we tell you not to do and to do and begin to know you don't know, then you'll begin to know.
I said hell you're crazy. He said, I know. He says, now since you don't know how to not do anything, the first thing we're gonna learn how to not do is learn how to not drink and take a pill. You know that card that I gave you? It has my number and 4 other men, no women.
Oh, man. When you get squirrelly, definitely before you take a drink or a pill, you call that number no matter what time of day or night it is. Now if you don't make the phone call, you didn't do it even if you didn't drink. Now that's where we're gonna learn how to not do something. This is what we're going to do every day.
When you get up in the morning, get out on your knees and say these words and these words only. God, take me today. Let thy will only be done in my life. Help me to definitely not take a drink of anything alcoholic or a mind changing drug and let me be what you want me to be today. Amen.
Do not need to tell God what what he has not done nor what he needs to do. God's highly capable of handling that all by himself. And then call me before you go to the bathroom. I said why before I go to bathroom? You may not need to go.
I said, do you mean tell me you don't think I've got to set stuff to know and I need to go to bathroom? He said, we'll find out. They don't give you a lot of credit here, you know. Before I got out on my knees I said God you and I know he don't know. Hell, he's a Presbyterian.
And you know I've been praying to you all my life, but I'll tell you one thing. We're gonna do everything just exactly like he says. So when we get enough of it this time, we can tell him to take this deal and sell it. I got out on my knees and I said that prayer, got up, made sure I need to go to the bathroom, picked up. Oh, he didn't even ask where I need to go.
And I said, go to the bathroom, meet me at the club. I met him at the club. He said, now go to work. I said, I hate my job. He said, what's that got to do with it?
I said, well, I hated it so much yesterday I couldn't go to work. He said, what did you do? Sit in that chair? And I said, yeah, till noon. Then I went to club.
He said, you don't know how to go to work? I said, how? He said, go get in the car. You write that down, you can catch it. He said later on, besides that prayer of the morning, we're just going to start with this one and later on we'll learn how to do it in all areas of our day.
I want you to invite God when you get in the car, invite God in today. I said, how do you do that? He said, you say, God, I invite you into the day. Oh, Put that on the card. If we don't lose the card, we can go home.
Then you come back and you know how they are. You walk in the door of the club and they say out loud so everybody will know you don't know, go get your coffee and sit with us. Don't say anything, just listen to the kings. Then you almost get settled down. They say it's time for you to go home and eat supper and come back to meeting out loud so everybody in the room can hear because they know now that you don't have sense enough to go home and eat supper and come back to the meeting.
Then I came back to the meeting and then after the meeting, he called me over says now I want you to go home and get on your knees to the side of the bed and thank God for the day. I said I do not thank God for the day. It's been a miserable damn day and I hate you and I hate my job and I'm not gonna be a hypocrite. He said, do you feel like when you're talking to God that you don't mean? I said, that's right, I'm not gonna do it, you do it.
He said that has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's only the action you're taking that you don't know you're taking. It's gonna cause the things to happen that you had no idea was gonna happen. And all the things that you think has to happen probably never will need to happen because once you take the action you don't know you're taking and the things that are going to happen that you had no idea was going to happen, what you thought needed to happen will never need to happen. Well, hell, I understood that for God's sake.
I said, do you mean to tell me that God does not care when I pray to him, whether I mean it or not? He said, not at all. You don't care. The group doesn't care. Nobody cares.
Nobody cares. Got my car with a hole, locked the door so what's your name couldn't get in there. Got down on my knees, said okay, by God, God, thank you for a miserable damn day. Amen. Hell, if he don't care and they don't care and God don't care, hell, I don't care.
Did that for about 2 months. Then one morning I didn't do anything any different. Got up on that old 6:10 loop about 9:15 that morning and this god that I have never known is my friend moved into that car with me. And for the first time in my life, I knew I knew something different than I had ever known it before. I knew I knew I would never need to take another drink of anything alcoholic or a mind changing drug unless I myself insisted upon it and I knew I knew it.
God stayed with me all that day. God is gracious. I thought, man, the rest of my life is gonna be just like this. About 3 o'clock that afternoon, I thought, man, I'm gonna get me a tent and some tambourines I'm gonna go save some souls. Oh, lord.
Better look out. Jimmy from Texas is coming. Couldn't wait for him to get back to the club. He's 15 minutes late. He walks through that door and said, get your coffee and sit down.
The baddest is taking over. Now I knew, I thought well I might even let him go help put up the tent. Now I knew that make me the leader. And they don't like it coming back, but he got his coffee anyway, but he didn't like the orders I gave him. And he came over on the other side of the club and then I told him the deal.
And he looked at me and grinned just a little, not a lot, and said, thank God we've got that over with. Now we can get started. I said my that took a year. He said some are sicker than others. I said, what are you gonna do about that what's your name?
He said, I'm not gonna do anything. We're gonna leave our marriage just like it is. I'll send you to a guy who's got his all worked out. God, he sent me to an episcopalian. You know they don't know.
And this guy said, do you remember when you got into alcoholics anonymous and you didn't fit in here and you didn't fit back out there? It was a lonesome period and you thought you were the only one that's going through it? I said, yeah. He said, I'm gonna tell you something. If you're willing to go through those lonesome periods in every area of your life, so I don't know how it's gonna happen, or when it's gonna happen, or how you're gonna get there, but I'll guarantee your relationship with a woman that you've never dreamed of.
I'll guarantee your relationship with your fellow man that you could never have imagined, and I'll give you a bonus on top of that. I'll guarantee your relation with almighty God that you could never thought possible. I said, I don't believe that. He said, isn't that wonderful? I said, what do you mean?
You don't have to. It's only the action you're taking. I said, I've already heard that. He said, are you living with old what's her name? I said, not closely.
She has her room and I have mine. And I said, I've had 2 or 3 girls that I'm sure were right for me, but they won't let me do it. And I'm having brain damage not doing it. Well what are you gonna do? You're not drinking for relief.
Kinda like the guy says, I've just finally decided to quit my life but I'm gonna quit my job to find myself. I said my god. I've never been where I didn't show up. I used to drive blackout, wake up next morning 200 miles away from home, there I was. I didn't even know I'd gone and I made it.
Well now she said, we'll just practice on what's her name. You're never gonna tell her what's wrong with her ever again. I said, who's gonna tell her? He said, I don't know, but you're not. And you're never gonna get Al Anon or anybody else to work her around or children or anybody to work her around to get her to do your way.
I said, never. He said, never. And you're gonna pray for her? And I said, I'm not. You pray for her.
He said, yes, you are. And you're gonna have to say this prayer many times a day during the beginning, maybe 10 or a100. I don't know. Say this prayer all the time. God, that will be done for her as well as for me.
Take our relationship. Let it become what you want it to be, and show me the truth. I said I did not want God's will to be done for her. Will it for me? He said remember what you want has nothing to do with it.
So I started doing that. Wasn't too long that old sex love, lust thing servicing me when I couldn't get rid of it. I told him 4 times a day, God and him, and God would not remove it like he should. So I told the group and the girl in the group said, You're not supposed to tell that to the group. So I went over and told another group.
And she said, you're not supposed to tell that to the group. So they snitched on me. We don't gossip here, you know. We're just concerned. Right now I just wanna tell you, Al Anon.
I said she needs to go to Al Anon. He says my wife is taking care of that. They brought her to you and she found you depressing. And they brought her to you 5 or 6 times and each time she found you more depressing. If there's ever anything that I can do for you, let me know.
And whatever you're doing, keep doing it. I couldn't get rid of my deal so my sponsor said usually when you town. Lock the door. Don't you call me, call anybody else. You town.
Lock the door. Don't you call me, call anybody else. You stay in there. You and God get rid of that deal. One time they want you to call them and the next time they want you to call them at all.
They don't know what the hell they want. So I went in there and locked myself in there and stayed in there all day and prayed and cried and hit the couch. I learned to quit hitting the bar and hurt your hand. And then about 11, 12 o'clock that night, I went sleep and the next day, that baby was not there. First time in my life, I was free of that deal.
And so I just didn't tell him. I went to 4 meetings. I thought, well, I guess I might as well tell them. So I said, after many, I said, well, I guess I might as well tell you. He's always knew it first night.
I said, why don't you tell me? He said, well, you didn't know that you're gonna always be the last to know. I said, why is that? He said, we don't know. So me and O what's her name after we find out the truth.
You know what happens when you have nothing? Just have nothing. You know what nothing is? Nothing. You know how to get sick?
Make something out of nothing. So me and I got a divorce. Then I married again and I married a baptist this time that didn't know anything about alcoholics and that worked and then we grew apart and now I've got a new one. But I don't want you to feel bad towards me because if I had started earlier, this probably would have been my 6th. So just because I'm not as good as some of them here, it's because I started late.
And I really wasn't gonna tell this because I'm afraid to tell it. It's the first time in my life I think I really have gotten gotten to where God's given me the right gal. And I've been afraid to tell it and I thought well I'm far enough away from home, I can tell it. And it's a girl that if I had seen 10 girls there, she would have been the last one I'd have seen. And I did the best I could to hook her up with another man and he was so stupid.
I just had to go take care of it myself. God, I'm glad we're going to have it, aren't you? Wouldn't that have been a shame? As sweet as we are and we'd have missed it. Well, we didn't miss it.
I just hate it that we can't get the bumper stickers out. We found it. Then they ask us, well, it's an alcoholic synonymous, but isn't that wouldn't that have been a shame if you and I had missed it? God, I would have died if you and I had missed it. But what's so great about it and not so great is we found what we were looking for but we didn't know where to find it so when we found it we didn't know we'd found it.
So we can't go brag about it. You know, I thought I was out there trying to be something and make something out of myself and what I was out there doing was preparing myself to be with you. And what you have to do there, you've got to go out there and give it everything you've got to become something so you'll end up being nothing. And once you're being nothing then you can find out what you were looking for, all of that. Any idiot should have known that.
When God says you're only gonna be what I am in you, Then how is he gonna be anything in me if I'm self sufficient and doing fine? So I've got to come and know and live and experience myself being nothing. It's painful and I do not like the system, but we got it. We're in it. And that's the way it got here.
You had no eye. All that time you was out there having car wrecks, putting up with each other, having fights, getting drunk, falling ditches, doing all this kind of stuff. You were only doing one thing. You thought you're having trouble and living and doing all. You weren't doing that.
You were just properly getting yourself prepared to become what almighty God wanted you to be. That's all you accomplished, but that was it. And you didn't know where you were going when you got to a or Al Anon so it's none of your business where you're going after you get here. So quit worrying about it, don't ever worry about it again really. And call me and tell me not to do it too, will you?
But I'm grateful that God Almighty in spite of what I thought and what I still think many, many times, knew what he was doing, knew exactly what he was doing, never made a mistake when he made you and I, made you exactly the way you needed to be and exactly the way you needed for him to be. And remember what's happened in this room and in rooms all over the country and now all over the world. God picks us out and brings us from every walk of life and puts us in here together that we may go back out and meet together and do exactly what he has for us today. And I'm glad I know I know a few things about you and I. I'm glad I know I know that up through this minute you and I are right on time.
We're not late. We're not early. We're exactly where god wants us to be in our lives doing exactly what god wants us to do without a shadow of a doubt. And I know I know the one thing that I never did know that God's children must know or they cannot live here without some kind of crutch or some kind of drake or some kind of thing. The thing that I did not know was that God really was my God and that God really did love me and that God did have me in the palm of his hand all of my life.
You see, I did everything I could to destroy myself and everything around me, and there wasn't any way I could live like I saw other people living. And that's what I had to experience so I could come and be sent to you that I might receive and live in that power with you living in that power that God may transform my life, that I may become a little more of a death within myself and let God become a little more in me just like it's happening to you. When anybody walks through that door, not anybody in this room is not going to say without a shadow of a doubt, we've got your answer. Even though many times I think it's not working for me, when that guy and that gal walks through that door, I know we have their answer. And what's so great about it, we can't explain What have you got?
I have no idea. We just got it. Can you believe that you're going to a program you already know what it is? How does it work? I have no idea, but it works.
Can you believe that you're gonna go out there and sell a program to somebody? We build our own churches. We can't. Why? You can't say, listen.
I want y'all to build a church. I've got a new deal. If you'll get up every morning, offer yourself to God, and call another insane person every day to find out what to do, you'll get well. And God will come in your life and give you everything you've ever wanted. You think that's going to work?
Not going to work. So we're not going to get a church. We're going to have to be just exactly. Can you believe what we are? We're actually living in the thing people strive for all the time and we just fell into it.
We just fell into it. And that almighty God is our God and has been all the time. We were just cut off till the time came for you and I to begin to live in his kingdom. You know how we didn't fit in here? God's people don't fit in the world.
We were never gonna fit. God's people are to live in his kingdom on this earth and be sent out to do his deal and never to fit in with the other people. And see, once we don't have to fit, then we fit. No. It's the whole damn thing's backwards.
But see when it's set up by a God who thinks higher than I do and you do, when he uses no human reasoning, doesn't use psychology, doesn't use anything. When he's our god, he's our only teacher so he's got to be the teacher so you can't learn it, memorize it, or anybody teach it to you. And do you know how we had to be that way? Because we wouldn't listen to anybody. We never listened to a soul.
Nobody could tell us anything because you and I must get it from God himself. And he's our director and he's the guy that guides our life and he's the guy that has given me the system. Thank God I stayed here long enough, especially now with 90 1,000 programs going that, you know, God, you can go codependent. I did that for years till I got rid of her, you know, and and all this other kind of stuff, which is fine. If you gotta go through it, you gotta go through it.
Just hope you don't get your mind too screwed up. Because this is a tough program because it's for God to be the only teacher, God himself. And that's where we live. And you and I are gonna lose some battles after we got here. We won some before we got here, but we lost the game just like we're supposed to.
And now we have won that game and now the only thing is going to happen to us, girls are going to get prettier, the guys are going to get better looking and that's all that's going to we've got to look forward to. Our lives are going to get better. We've got to go through the experience so we can be transformed over and over and over again to where God can give us all the things that he wants us to have and that we can be used by him and 90% of the time we're going to know what he's doing with us. But now you and I right now live in that power that takes care of everybody's life and overcomes all things. That one power that only God's children have and you and I have that.
And it never fails. Thank God I stayed with you long enough to feel that God loving me, me loving him back, but the difference was you. It was you. My life was never going to be any different. I could have gone to 10 different denominations and a 1000 different churches, but my life was never going to be any different until God sent me to be with you and you to be with me.
And it never fails us when we call each other. It never fails us when we meet together. It never fails us when we're out by ourselves. Just like it has been here these last few days and just like it's been in every meeting, just like it is right now. When I can feel your power that God has given you and the power He's given me.
And that one is when I feel you loving me and me loving you. Thank you very much.