Elsa C. from Laguna Beach, CA at San Jose Speaker Meeting in San Jose, CA
I
hadn't
had
the
privilege
of
meeting
our
speaker
until
today,
but
in
these
few
minutes
that
we
have
been
together,
I
have
found
that
she's
a
very
gracious
lady.
We
have
known
her
husband
for
some
time,
and
I
know
most
of
you
have,
and
we
have
loved
him
and
loved
his
talks.
And
I'm
sure
that
we're
gonna
have
just
as
good
a
talk
from
the
other
half
of
that
family.
And
I'd
like,
to
introduce
it's
my
privilege
to
introduce
Elsa.
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
kind
words.
My
name
is
Elsa
and
I
am
a
very
very
grateful,
comfortable,
happy
member
of
Al
Anon.
Hi.
I
before
I
forget
it,
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
asking
me
to
come
up
here
today.
I
love
this
north
mostly
because
I
was
born
in
San
Francisco.
So
my
heart
is
always
up
here
even
though
I
have
lived
down
south
for
many,
many
years.
I
wonder
if
alcoholics,
as
a
rule,
have
any
idea
really
how
the
Al
Anon
member
or
the
nonalcoholic
member
rather
of
the
family
really
feels
Because
communication
seems
to
be
one
of
our
hang
ups.
We
have
a
deadly
time
with
communication.
Somehow
or
other
it
seems
almost
impossible
for
us
to
tell
each
other
how
we
feel
inside.
Now
you
go
into
an
AA
meeting
or
an
AA
gathering
of
any
kind,
and
they're
very
quick
to
tell
each
other
how
they
feel
inside.
And
we
Al
Anon's,
when
we
get
together,
we're
very
quick
to
tell
each
other
how
we
feel
inside.
But
just
let
us
go
home,
and
that's
another
story.
I
see
I
have
company.
I
have
often
wondered
if
many
of
us,
both
AA
and
Al
Anon,
don't
have
a
little
habit
of
taking
off
our
program
when
we
walk
in
our
front
door.
I
said
this
at
a
meeting
down
south
one
time
and
a
gentleman
came
up
to
me
afterwards
and
he
said,
you
made
a
point
there
that
has
never
occurred
to
me
before.
And
he
said,
I
can
see
now
that
when
I
open
my
front
door,
I
take
off
my
program
just
like
I
take
off
my
overcoat.
Because
old
habit
patterns
are
strange
things,
and
it's
been
so
close
to
us.
And
we've,
it's
too
familiar.
And
the
old
habit
patterns
of,
reverting
seem
to
be
there.
I
know
there's
a
psychiatrist
that
said
some
time
ago
that
old
habit
patterns
have
a
way
of
repeating
themselves
with
monotonous
regularity.
And
I
think
this
is
true.
But
this
is
one
of
the
beauties
of
this
program
if
we
will
see
it.
Because
alcoholism
is
a
family
problem.
There's
no
getting
away
from
it,
and
it's
a
family
sickness.
Even
you
can
call
it
a
family
disease.
Because
we
non
alcoholic
members
of
the
family
have
an
obsession
that
is
just
as
strong
as
the
alcoholic's
obsession
for
booze,
and
that's
the
alcoholic.
And
we
can't
get
our
eyes
off
of
him,
and
we
watch
every
move
he
makes,
and
we
make
book
on
him,
and
we
figure
out
what
he's
gonna
say,
and
how
we're
going
to
answer
him
and
or
her.
And,
9
times
out
of
10,
they're
not
thinking
the
things
we
think
they're
thinking
at
all.
But
it's,
it's
a
sickness
with
us
that
takes
us,
many
of
us,
into
institutions.
I
know
many
alanines
that
in
complete
and
utter
frustration
and
emotional
madness
have
gotten
into
a
car
and
driven
all
over
town
wildly
through
stop
signs
and
red
lights
and
haven't
even
known
where
they've
been
or
what
they've
done.
And
many
of
us
die
from
it
too,
believe
me.
I've
been
working
with
a
little
gal
down
home
who
called
me
one
day
in
such
a
state.
She
had
been
advised
by
a
member
of
Al
Anon
to
at
least
give
me
a
call.
And
this
little
gal
with
5
children
and
an
alcoholic
doctor
husband
had
gotten
into
such
a
state
that
she
was
even
afraid
to
cross
the
street.
She
couldn't
even
go
and
shop
for
her
family
and
she
had
5
children.
She
would
go
to
bed
and
pull
the
covers
over
her
head
and
sleep
because
she
thought
she
was
losing
her
mind.
And
she
was
about
to
go
to
a
psychiatrist.
And
I
said
to
her,
my
dear,
why
don't
you
try
Al
Anon
for
a
little
while?
Come
to
us
for
2
or
3
months.
Because
Al
Anon
does
exactly
the
same
thing
that
a
psychiatrist
would
do,
except
that
it's
a
do
it
yourself
program
and
it
won't
cost
you
anything.
And
try
it.
And
if
it
doesn't
work
after
2
or
3
months,
then
God
bless
you,
go
ahead
and
go
to
your
psychiatrist.
Well,
she's
still
coming
to
Al
Anon,
and
the
change
in
her
is
so
dramatic
that
you
wouldn't
believe
it.
She
has
learned
to
stand
on
her
own
2
feet.
She
has
learned
the
basic
tenets
of
both
AA
and
Al
Anon,
and
that
is
a
way
to
live
in
comfort
and
in
peace
and
joy
within
yourself
in
spite
of
what's
going
on
around
you.
Because
this
to
me
is
the
thing
that
we
find
in
this
program
through
the
practice
of
these
beautiful
twelve
steps.
It
has
done
things
for
me
that
I
couldn't
believe
could
have
been
done.
And
I
have
watched
people.
I've
watched
men
and
women
come
into
the
Al
Anon
program
just
2
jumps
ahead
of
a
fit.
Just
miserable,
absolutely
miserable,
and
usually
contemplating
leaving
or
divorce
or
something
of
the
sort,
and
watch
them
over
a
period,
sometimes
short,
sometimes
long,
change
and
come
back
looking
like
the
pretty
person
that
they
were
in
the
beginning,
that
they
had
lost
along
the
way.
And
I
know
this
is
what
has
happened
to
me
because
you
have
given
me
back
something
that
I
lost
during
the
alcoholic
years.
As
your
leader
said,
most
of
you
know
my
good
husband,
and
you
know
what
a
strong
personality
he
is.
He
comes
on
like
a
flash,
you
know.
And
living
with
a
person
of
this
kind,
is
not
always
the
easiest
thing
in
the
world
for
the
partners,
because
it
has
a
tendency
to
squash
you
down
to
where
you're
a
complete
and
utter
nothing.
And
this
is
what
happened
to
me.
I
don't
believe
that
there
is
anything
that
is
quite
so
heart
breaking
that
causes
the
man
of
her
dreams,
big,
handsome,
charming,
smart,
wonderful
guy,
and
falls
deeply
and
hopelessly
in
love,
and
has
every
ideal
under
the
sun
of
what
marriage
is
going
to
be.
Beautiful
lifetime
together,
beautiful
children.
It's
going
to
be
just
a
ball.
It's
going
to
be
lovely.
And
then
to
watch
this
person
that
you
have
married
who
has
every
potential
for
success
and
to
be
a
big
man.
Watch
him
day
by
day,
month
by
month
and
year
by
year,
disintegrating
before
your
very
eyes.
And
you
don't
know,
as
I
did
not
know,
because
you
see
my
husband
has
been
in
AA
for
23
years.
So
this
was
a
long
time
ago,
when
there
was
no
AA,
and
there
definitely
was
no
Al
Anon.
So
I
would
say
this
also
before
I
go
any
further.
You,
Elanon,
don't
know
how
lucky
you
are.
You
just
don't
know
how
lucky
you
are
that
you
have
a
place
to
go.
You
have
people
to
talk
to.
You
have
a
program
to
follow.
You
have
a
way
of
life
that
will
give
you
that
peace
and
serenity.
I
don't
care
whether
you've
got
a
practicing
alcoholic
at
home
or
not,
because
this
is
an
inside
job.
But
as
for
me,
there
was
no
place
for
me
to
go.
I
had
no
one
to
talk
to.
And
I
certainly
did
not
understand,
could
not
understand
what
was
the
matter
with
my
husband.
I
thought
it
was
deliberate
on
his
part.
And
I
kept
thinking,
this
man's
smart.
He
has
brains.
Why
is
he
doing
this
to
himself?
Doesn't
he
see
what's
happening?
That
everything
is
going
down
the
drain.
That
he
eventually
is
going
to
kill
himself.
And
I
couldn't
understand
why,
and
I
fought
it
in
every
way
that
I
knew
how,
but,
of
course,
in
all
the
wrong
ways.
I
was
on
his
back
every
living
minute.
And
how
many
of
you
alcoholics,
I
mean,
Al
Anon's,
have
heard
your
husband
say,
get
off
my
back?
We
have
a
little
pamphlet
down
home
that's
called
the
Do's
and
Don'ts,
And
it's
really
quite
a
thing.
I
didn't
do
any
of
the
do's
and
I
did
all
of
the
don'ts
and
more.
Because
I
poured
the
liquor
down
the
sink,
I
hid
the
car
keys,
I
railed,
and
I
ranted,
and
I
screamed,
and
I
yelled,
and
I
cried,
and
I
gave
him
the
silent
treatment,
and
I
went
around
with
a
sad
expression,
you
know.
And
I
gradually,
by
degrees,
retreated
within
myself
and
dropped
most
of
our
friends
because
I
couldn't
want
to
be
embarrassed
anymore.
And
this
is
something
that
I
have
to
laugh
about
now
because,
really,
why
would
I
be
embarrassed
over
what
my
husband
husband
did?
I
wasn't
doing
it.
He
was
doing
it.
He
was
the
one
that
should
have
been
embarrassed.
And
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
have
great
problems
with,
learning
how
not
to
be
embarrassed
by
what
our
drinking
husbands
or
wives
or
children
do.
Because
I
don't
think
that
people,
are
embarrassed
for
you,
they're
embarrassed
for
Him.
But
it's,
it's
amazing
what
can
happen
when
you
do
learn
something
about
this
program.
I
had
been,
well,
I
was
and
am,
still
am,
an
only
child
raised
by
parents
that
were
extremely
strict
because
they
were
afraid
that
I'd
be
spoiled.
And
I
never
was
allowed
to
make
a
decision.
I
was
always
told
what
to
do,
and
how
to
do
it,
and
what
to
think.
And
if
any
of
you
have
children,
I
hope
to
God
that
you
will
allow
these
young
people
to
make
some
decisions
and
allow
them
to
take
the
result
of
their
behavior.
Because
apparently,
it's
the
only
way
we
learn,
and
it's
the
only
way
we
learn
how
to
stand
on
our
own
2
feet
and
be
a
person,
to
be
an
individual.
The
time
finally
came
with
me
because
my
husband
was
one
who
had
to
go
completely
to
the
bottom
before
he
could
give
up,
to
the
point
of
alcoholic
convulsions
and
d
t's
and
all
the
works
the
works.
And
having
been
a
devout
coward
all
my
life,
and
having
always
thought
I
was
such
a
good
woman,
which
seems
to
be
almost
universal,
you
know,
quite
a
shock
when
you
find
out
you're
not
as
good
as
you
thought
you
were.
But,
I
finally
was
pushed
into
a
corner
that
I
couldn't
get
out
of,
and
I
am
one
who
doesn't
really
do
anything
about
anything
until
I
have
to.
I'm
lazy.
And
I
have
found
that
the
only
growth
that
I
ever
make
is
when
I
am
pushed
into
a
corner
and
I
get
so
uncomfortable
that
I
can't
stand
it,
and
I
have
to
get
busy
and
do
something
about
it.
But
I
can
see
now
that
every
step
in
growth
that
I
have
made
in
all
these
years
around
this
program
has
been
when
I
have
been
pushed
into
a
corner.
So
I
don't
say
that
these
difficult
times
are
bad.
Like
my
husband
I
say
they
are
good
because
they
have
taught
me
lessons
that
I've
and
it
is
through
these
lessons
I
think
that
I
have
finally
come
to
the
point
where
I
can
stand
before
you
and
say
I'm
happy,
I'm
comfortable,
and
I'm
at
peace
with
me.
But
it's
taken
a
long
time
because
I'm
slow.
I'm
one
of
these
slow
learners.
There's
a
gal
in
this
audience
that
I
heard
talk,
a
number
of
years
ago.
I
think
probably
it
would
could
be
probably
10
or
12
years
ago,
And
she's
the
1st
Al
Anon
gal
that
I
have
ever
heard
that
told
my
story.
And
she
said
before
the
meeting
started
that
she
was
going
to
listen
today
to
see
if
she,
felt
the
same
way
about
me.
She's
the
wife
of
of
your
ex
trustee.
But,
I
had
a
rather
strange
childhood.
I
was
a,
a
born
athlete
as
a
young
person.
I
loved
sports.
And
I
loved
to
play
with
the
boys
because
the
boys
played
the
kind
of
games
that
I
enjoyed.
I
was
strong,
husky,
and
used
to
get
teased
a
good
bit
about
it
because
I
was
quite
muscular
and
a
good
bit
larger
than
I
am
now.
And
in
fact
I
think
I
weighed
close
to
a
165.
And
once
in
a
while
they
used
to
call
me
hippo.
I
never
felt
really
comfortable
in
normal
boy
girl
relationships,
But
if
I
could
be
a
companion
and
a
pal
and
play
in
games
of
sport,
then
I
was
comfortable.
Like
so
many
of
the
alcoholic
women,
I
didn't
particularly
like
women.
I
didn't
trust
them.
But
I
thought
they
all
had
their
claws
out,
you
know.
But,
strangely
enough
on
the
other
hand
the
only
talents
that
I
possess
were
in
the
artistic
field,
in
art,
drama,
and
music.
And
this
doesn't
do
for
a
very
well
integrated
personality,
I
don't
believe,
and
I
never
felt
really
very
feminine.
And
I
was
always
disjointed.
I
just
wasn't
comfortable,
I
couldn't
I
couldn't
do
the
things
that
the
other
girls
did,
I
couldn't
flirt,
I
couldn't,
I
had
no
line,
I
would
go
to
a
party
and
sit
in
the
corner
and
be
miserable
and
usually
was
the
wallflower,
you
know,
that,
never
was
asked
to
dance.
Until
I
got
into
a
play
in
high
school.
One
of
my
friends
enveigled
me
into
trying
out
for
this
play.
And
strangely
enough
I
got
the
part
I
tried
out
for
and
stranger
still
it
was
the
part
of
a
young
widow
who
was
a
very
decided
flirt.
How
incongruous
can
you
be,
you
know.
And
I
remember
very
well
my
mother
telling
me
that
she
had
sat
down
in
front
of
the
stage
during
rehearsal
one
day
next
to
the
coach.
And
the
coach
turned
to
her
and
said,
you
know,
that's
one
of
the
most
beautiful
speaking
voices
I
ever
heard,
But
what
in
God's
name
are
we
going
to
do
with
that
body?
Oh,
me.
Those
were
the
days.
And
I
remember
so
well
the
first
evening
dress
I
ever
had
that
was
sleeveless.
And
I
was
putting
on
my
makeup
or
fixing
my
hair
or
something,
and
I
happened
to
glance
down
and
here
was
I
had
muscles
like
a
man,
you
know,
but,
the
day
came
when
that
all
melted
away.
Thank
God.
I
don't
have
that
to
worry
about
today.
But
it,
it
gave
me
a
very
strange
inferiority
complex
that,
I
think
followed
me
all
through
my
life
until
just
a
few
years
ago.
Because
I
never
believed
anyone
when
they
told
me
that
I
had
done
a
good
job.
If
I
was,
at
that
time
had
gotten
grease
paint
in
my
nostrils
and
nothing
would
do,
but
I
would
follow
the
drama.
And,
almost
broke
my
mother's
heart
because
she
thought
I
would
be
a
singer
as
she
was.
But,
the
day
finally
came
when,
I
met
this
young
man
that
I
told
you
about,
and
nothing
would
do
but
I
were
to
get
married.
Along
the
way
we
had
2
sons,
and
as
I
said,
when
we
finally
came
to
the
point
of
no
return,
I
finally
forced
myself
to
start
divorce
proceedings.
And,
fortunately
for
me
and
for
our
family,
it
came
at
the
same
time
that
my
husband's
particular
low
happened,
and
he
came
to
AA.
And
the
relief
was
so
tremendous.
I
just
can't
tell
you
what
the
relief
was.
But
you
know,
even
with
all
this
tremendous
relief
and
the
joy
of
a
quiet
household
and
all
the
rest
that
comes
with
the
joining
of
AA.
Well,
I
can
best
illustrate
it
by
saying
that
one
of
my
friends
said
to
me
one
day,
Elsa,
you
look
just
like
a
contented
cow.
And
that's
more
or
less
the
way
I
was.
I
was
just
like
this,
you
know.
But
I
from
that
time
on
I
became
the
shadow,
the
shadow
of
my
husband.
The
good
little
wife
that
followed
him
around
in
the
background,
you
know,
that
never
opened
her
mouth,
made
the
coffee
and
served
the
cake
and
took
care
of
the
needs
of
the
AA
people
that
were
continually,
it
seemed,
at
our
house.
And
this
went
on
for
years.
6
years
around
AA
before
Al
Anon
came
into
being.
And
then
Lois
came
to
the
coast
and
suggested
the
thing
that
has
become
so
wonderful
and
so
great
that
we
now
have
over
4,000
groups
all
over
the
world.
She
said
that
she
realized,
and
Bill
realized,
that
we
nonalcoholics
needed
a
program
for
ourselves.
Because
in
those
early
days,
and
still
to
some
extent
now,
AA
has
a
tendency
to
shut
us
out.
And,
this
is
not
good
because
this
is
a
family
problem.
A
family
problem.
And
we
need
this
program
as
badly
as
the
alcoholic
needs
it.
Sometimes
I
think
worse
because
it
takes
us
longer
to
get
well,
because
we
don't
recognize
our
own
sickness
for
a
long
time.
And
we
have
to
get
awfully
uncomfortable
before
we'll
do
anything
about
it.
But
then
there
were
3
of
us,
the
group,
which
we
did,
which
met
in
our
home
for
a
good
many
years.
Beverly
Hills'
group
is
still
going,
but
I'm
no
longer
there.
But
I
led
that
group
for
a
long
time
because
I,
had
been
around
the
program
longer
than
anybody
else.
And
I
was
very
quick
with
the
words,
very
quick
with
the
words.
I
had
heard
a
lot
of
talk
and
a
lot
of
I
had
done
a
lot
of
reading
and
knew
the
words
of
the
program
backwards.
And
I
was,
found
that
it
was
pretty
easy
to
see
your
problem
and
also
to
see
your
answer.
But
it
was
very,
very
difficult
to
see
mine.
And
I
know
now,
since
we
have
moved
to
Laguna
Beach,
and
I
had
to
start
all
over
again,
that
I
had
not
once
really
applied
these
12
steps
to
me.
I
didn't
know
who
me
was.
I
had
no
idea
what
I
had
become.
I
had
no
idea
that
I
was
what
a
girl
called
me
not
long
ago
when
I
talked
at
a
joint
luncheon
of
AA
and
Al
Anon
Women
down
south
a
while
back.
And
she
said,
I
met
this
gal
12
years
ago,
and
when
I
met
her
she
was
a
mouse.
And
that's
exactly
what
I
was,
my
husband's
shadow.
I
spouted
his
words,
his
ideas,
his
everything.
And
you
know
it's
a
funny
thing
that
I
didn't
realize
until
just
a
short
time
ago
that
there
had
been
definite
competition
in
our
family
and
I
wasn't
even
aware
of
it
until
my
husband
called
me
to
my
attention.
And
you
know
just
to
show
you
that
I
actually
have
grown
a
little
bit,
I
didn't
get
mad.
I
didn't.
Ordinarily
years
ago
if
he
had
said
to
me,
you
know
honey,
I
think
you
might
look
at
this
a
little
bit.
There
seems
to
be
a
little
competition.
I
would
have
hit
the
ceiling
if
he
had
said
that
to
me
years
ago.
But
now
I
was
able
to
look
at
it
and
honestly
see
that
one
of
the
things
that
was
disturbing
me
was
the
fact
that
I
wanted
to
be
as
good
a
speaker
as
my
husband.
I
wanted
to
be
as
funny
as
he
can
be
at
times
because
he
breaks
the
most
serious
things
in
his
talks
with
funny
isms.
And
I
can't
do
this.
I
just
can't.
And
so
I
had
to
take
another
real
good
look
at
me
and
realize
that
we
are
individuals
and
we
each
have
to
do
it
in
our
own
particular
way.
And
we
have
to
find
our
own
language.
Even
though
Chuck
and
I
talk
a
great
deal
about
the
very
same
things,
we
say
it
differently.
Because
we're,
we're
agreed
on
a
great
many
points.
But,
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
talk
about
is
what
I
have
learned.
Did
you
say
3
o'clock?
Yeah.
I
think
it
better
be
2:30.
Anyway,
I
have
quite
a
few
things
that
I
want
to
talk
about
if
I
can,
because
I
think
they
will
be
helpful.
12
years
ago,
we
sold
our
home
in
Beverly
Hills
and
moved
to
Laguna.
And
some
of
you,
I
know
there
are
a
few
here
that
have
heard
me
tell
this
story
several
times,
but
I
hope
they
will
bear
with
me
because
I
think
what
I'm
trying
to
bring
out
in
this
story
is
so
very,
very
important.
Because
if
there
are
any
of
you
in
this
room
who
are
giving
your
mates
a
bad
time
because
they
spend
so
much
time
in
AA
and
in
AA
work.
Maybe
this
will
help
to
change
your
mind.
It
did
mine.
So
maybe
it
will
help
you.
I
don't
know.
But
we
suddenly
moved
after
living
28
years
in
the
same
house
to
Laguna
Beach.
Now
my
husband's
business
is
in
Los
Angeles
and
he
talks
a
great
deal
as
most
of
you
know,
and
he's
gone
2
and
3
and
sometimes
4
and
5
nights
a
week.
And
when
he
goes,
he
goes
from
his
office
in
town.
He
doesn't
come
home
and
get
me
like
he
used
to
when
we
were
in
Beverly
Hills.
So
here
I
am
stuck
down
in
a
new
community
knowing
very
few
people,
and
I'm
left
alone
2,
3,
4
nights
a
week,
and
you
know
exactly
what
happened
to
me.
I
reverted
almost
completely
to
my
old
stinking
thinking.
I
began
to
feel
very
sorry
for
myself,
and
I
thought,
my
Lord,
he's
been
been
talking
for
15
solid
years
now.
Isn't
it
time
he
slowed
down
and
gave
me
a
little
more
time?
You
know?
After
all,
I'm
not
getting
my
just
due.
I'm
not
getting
my
proper
respect.
He
owes
me
something.
I
have
rights.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
gives
us
more
trouble
than
anything
under
the
sun.
I
have
rights.
I've
come
to
see
that
we
don't
have
any
rights,
if
you
want
to
know
the
truth
of
it.
But
anyway,
I
got
myself
into
a
dither
and
I
began
to
put
a
good
bit
of
pressure
on
Chuck
to
slow
down.
And
the
poor
guy
saw
my
dilemma
and
knew
that
I
was
unhappy,
and
he
tried
his
level
best
to
slow
down
for
about
3
or
4
months.
He
would
only
talk
maybe,
oh,
twice
a
week
at
the
most,
you
know.
Thanksgiving
came
along
and
the
family
were
sitting
all
around
the
Thanksgiving
table
and
he
said,
I've
got
something
to
say.
I've
been
trying
desperately
to
slow
down
and
I'm
getting
so
uncomfortable
I
can't
stand
myself.
Now
he
said,
I
cannot
afford
to
be
this
uncomfortable.
And
how
can
I
say
to
1,
yes,
I'll
talk
for
you,
And
to
the
other
one,
no,
I
won't
talk
for
you?
I've
got
to
go
home
and
be
with
my
wife.
I
said,
I'm
going
to
have
to
go
when
AA
calls.
If
I
get
a
12
step
call
in
the
middle
of
the
night
I'm
going
to
have
to
go.
And
you
will
have
to
adjust
yourself
to
it.
Well,
I
didn't
like
it
very
well
because
I
still
was
pretty
sick
in
the
head,
you
know.
But
suddenly
I
remembered
something
that
had
happened
in
the
very
very
early
years
of
Chuck's
sobriety.
He
had
been
asked
to
talk
on
Christmas,
and
I
hit
the
ceiling,
and
I
said
how
dare
you
make
a
date
on
Christmas.
This
is
a
family
day.
You
don't
have
any
right
to
make
a
date
on
Christmas.
But
if
you
knew
Chuck
you
know
he's
a
pretty
stubborn
man,
and
when
he
makes
a
date
he
keeps
it.
And
so
I
planned
an
early
dinner,
and
the
children
were
there.
And
about
a
half
hour
after
dinner
they
all
took
off.
So
we
were
left
alone
anyway.
You
know
these
young
kids
didn't
want
to
stay
with
us
all
day.
They
had
places
they
wanted
to
go,
and
things
they
wanted
to
do,
friends
they
wanted
to
see.
So
off
they
went.
So
I
very
grudgingly
I
got
dressed
and
went
down
to
Santa
Monica
to
the
meeting.
Well,
there
were
2
very
very
drunk
winos
in
that
meeting
that
night
that
had
just
been
pulled
out
from
under
the
Santa
Monica
Pier.
The
following
Christmas
he
was
asked
to
talk
again,
and
I
went
with
him
a
little
less
grudgingly
this
time.
And
one
of
them
was
leading
the
meeting,
and
the
other
one
led
read
the
steps.
And
for
the
first
time
in
my
life,
I
could
see
what
kind
of
a
program
we
were
in.
We
are
in
a
life
and
death
program.
We
are
in
the
business
of
saving
lives.
And
whatever
we
non
alcoholics
have
to
do
in
the
way
of
giving
freedom
to
our
alcoholic
spouse,
or
son
or
daughter
or
wife,
we
have
to
leave
them
free
to
do
because
they
may
be
saving
a
life.
And
I
think
this
takes
the
necessity
out
of
the
picture
to
feel
sorry
for
oneself.
Because
I
found
that
I
had
to
then
get
busy,
and
make
my
own
life,
and
find
my
own
salvation,
if
you
will.
And
my
youngest
son
gave
me
the
clue.
He
said,
Mom,
why
don't
you
start
another
Al
Anon
Group?
And
this
I
did.
And
this
was
the
beginning
of
the
Laguna
Al
Anon
daytime
group.
And
since
that
group
started,
5
more
have
sprung
up
in
the
Bay
Area
there.
And
it's
a
going
concern,
believe
me.
But
what
it
did
for
me
is
something
that
I
will
be
grateful
for
for
the
rest
of
my
days.
Because
that
group
has
taught
me
about
me.
They
have
taught
me
what
to
do
to
get
myself
out
of
this
thing
that
had
followed
me
for
so
long.
Because
you
see
I
had
learned
in
those
days
of
fooling
with
dramatics
how
to
put
up
a
front.
And
nobody,
but
nobody,
ever
knew
how
I
felt
inside.
And
nobody
ever
knew
how
scared
I
was.
And
how
I
shook
from
the
top
of
my
head
to
the
bottoms
of
my
feet
when
I
had
to
get
up
before
an
audience.
And
so
I
never
never
was
really
me.
And
I
began
to
see
that
one
of
the
things
that
had
given
me
more
trouble
than
any
other
one
thing
was
my
terrible
need
for
approval,
and
my
fear
of
disapproval.
Because
I
was
always
trying
to
do
the
thing
that
would
make
you
approve
of
me
because
I
couldn't
stand
your
disapproval,
and
especially
my
husband.
So
I
never
was
myself.
I
was
always
trying
to
be
like
you,
or
like
you,
or
like
you.
And
it's
an
uncomfortable
spot
to
be
in,
believe
me.
And
so
I
began
to
see
that
in
taking
my
inventory,
that
one
of
the
things
I
needed
to
do
was
to
get
rid
of
this
need.
And
I
did
it
in
a
sort
of
a
strange
way.
I
thought,
well,
I
I
just
I'm
the
only
me
that
I
can
be.
And
like
old
Popeye,
I'll
just
say
to
myself,
well
I
am
what
I
am
and
that's
all
I
am,
and
if
that
isn't
good
enough
that's
all
I've
got,
you
know,
all
I've
got.
Because
I
had
been
so
terribly
nervous
over
the
first
talk
that
I
was
supposed
to
give.
And
my
husband
said,
you
know
what's
the
matter
with
you,
don't
you?
And
I
said,
no,
I
don't.
He
said,
you
want
this.
And
when
I
could
see
it,
then
I
could
get
up
before
you
and
talk
out
of
my
heart,
and
not
be
concerned
with
what
you
thought
about
the
kind
of
a
talk
I
gave.
You
asked
me
to
talk,
so
I
come
up
here
and
talk,
and
if
it's
good,
bad,
or
indifferent,
that's
all
I've
got.
That's
all
I've
got.
But
I'll
do
the
best
I
can
one
day
at
a
time
to
try
to
learn
how
to
live
this
way
of
life.
I
would
like,
strangely
enough,
it
was
only
just
a
few
years
ago
that
I
finally
found
out
the
real
reason
for
this
need
for
approval,
that
is
as
far
as
I
am
concerned.
And
remember
please
that
I
am
not
speaking
for
Al
Anon.
These
are
my
thoughts
and
my
ideas
and
what
I
have
learned
that
fits
me.
I
am
not
speaking
for
Al
Anon
as
such.
Something
that
my
husband
had
taught
me
years
ago
that
I've
talked
about
for
years
years
years.
And
that
is
this
thing
of
doing
what
you
do
for
free
and
for
fun
with
no
strings
on
it.
And
loving
for
free
and
for
fun
with
no
strings
on
it,
and
getting
rid
of
barter,
so
to
speak.
And
all
of
a
sudden,
just,
not
more
than
2
or
3
years
ago,
it
hit
me
like
a
ton
of
bricks,
that
the
reason
that
I
needed
that
approval
so
terribly
was
because
I
wasn't
loving
for
free.
It's
as
simple
as
that.
And
when
you
can
see
it,
it
does
wonderful
things
for
you,
and
I'm
not
always
able
to
hang
on
to
it.
Don't
misunderstand
me.
I
revert
as
often
as
anybody
does,
especially
if
something
happens
very
suddenly
to
me.
But
I'm
learning.
I'm
learning
the
hard
way.
And
you
know
growing
up
is
rather
painful,
rather
painful.
But
this
loving
for
free
is
the
very
thing
that
we
talk
about
in
Al
Anon
so
much,
our
release
with
love.
Release
with
love.
To
me
this
is
the
most
marvelous
thing
in
the
world
when
we
can
get
hold
of
it,
because
it's
a
thing
that
makes
us
free
release
with
love.
In
the
East,
they
call
it
emotional
detachment.
I
don't
like
it.
It's
cold.
And
one
of
the
things,
I
think,
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
have
such
marvelous
AA
and
Al
Anon
in
California
is
because
our
AA
and
Al
Anon
is
so
warm
and
so
friendly
and
so
loving.
The
East
is
very
reserved,
you
know.
I
think
they
do
well
to
learn
a
few
things
from
us.
I
heard
Someone
told
me
the
other
day
that
one
of
the
gals
in
the
New
York
office,
this
is
AA
office,
said
what
in
the
world
do
you
people
have
out
there
in
California?
You
know?
Let
them
come
out
here
and
find
out.
That's
the
thing
that
makes
this
thing
tick,
this
love
and
sharing.
This
love
and
sharing.
But
what
do
I
mean
by
release
with
love?
A
lot
of
people
don't
seem
to
understand.
A
man
said
to
me
one
night
at
a
meeting,
he
said,
It
sounds
like
friendly
divorce.
But
it's
just
the
opposite
from
that.
It's
just
the
opposite
from
that.
Release
with
love.
To
me
it
means
giving
every
person
in
the
world
the
dignity
of
a
human
being.
The
dignity
of
a
human
being.
Because
every
human
being
has
dignity.
Because
we
are
all
God's
children.
Even
the
drunk
that
lies
stretched
out
on
the
floor,
passed
out
cold,
and
looking
like,
you
know
what,
has
dignity.
Because
inside
all
of
that
crest
of
ugliness
is
God's
child.
And
I
think
when
we
can
see
this,
it's
far
easier
to
have
compassion
for
the
alcoholic,
than
it
was
when
we
were
looking
at
them
as
something
ugly
and
obnoxious
as
I
did
when
my
husband
was
drinking.
I
hated
his
insides.
And
I
hoped
many
times
that
he
would
die
in
one
of
these
alcoholic
convulsions.
You
talk
about
insanity.
When
I
look
back
on
the
things
that
I
thought,
and
the
things
that
I
did,
and
the
things
that
I
said,
in
those
drinking
days,
I
certainly
was
not
in
my
right
mind.
Because
you
are
not
sane
when
you
wish
that
someone
would
die.
And
in
the
back
of
my
mind
I
often
tried
to
figure
out
some
way
that
I
could
get
rid
of
him
and
not
get
found
out.
That's
right,
actually.
And
I've
found
a
lot
of
companions
on
that
too.
To
me
I
was
trapped.
It
was
hopeless.
This
guy
was
never
gonna
sober
up,
you
know?
That
strange
things
happen
if
you
just
give
it
time.
Just
give
it
time.
Where
was
I?
Lost
me.
What
was
I
talking
about?
Oh
yes
yes
yes.
To
give
everyone
the
dignity
of
a
human
being,
to
give
them
the
freedom
to
find
their
own
answers
in
their
own
time,
in
their
own
way,
without
interference
from
us,
to
give
them
the
right
to
take
the
result
of
their
behavior,
The
right
to
find
out
from
making
mistakes.
The
right
to
make
mistakes
and
to
be
wrong.
I
think
we
claim
this
for
ourselves.
I
don't
know
why
we
shouldn't
give
it
to
every
human
being.
And
you
know
this
does
something
for
me
at
least
that
nothing
else
could
have
done.
It
takes
judgment
out
of
the
picture.
I
no
longer
can
judge
anybody
because
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
inside
of
that
person.
I
don't
have
any
conception
of
the
hurt
or
the
agony
or
the
anxiety
or
the
self
condemnation
that
goes
on
inside
of
an
alcoholic's
mind.
I've
heard
my
husband
say
many
times
that
one
of
the
things
that
is
most
difficult
for
the
non
alcoholic
to
understand,
when
the
non
alcoholic
says
to
the
alcoholic,
as
we
all
seem
to
do,
if
you
love
me
you
couldn't
possibly
do
this
to
me,
and
tell
them
that
it's
because
you
love
them
that
you
do
it
to
them.
This
is
a
difficult
one
for
the
non
alcoholic
to
understand,
but
I
think
I
understand
it
today,
because
he
could
see
what
he
was
doing
to
his
family.
And
the
only
relief
he
knew
was
to
wash
out
his
mind
with
booze
and
not
have
to
think
anymore.
I
can
see
that
now.
But
it's
pretty
hard
and
it
takes
a
long
time.
But
that
is
something
else
that
we
impatient
people
have
to
learn,
is
that
it
takes
time.
How
long
it
takes
it
takes,
and
what
it
takes
It
takes
both
with
the
alcoholic
and
the
non
alcoholic.
Release
with
love.
It's
just
the
opposite
of
rejection.
Just
the
opposite,
to
hold
close
with
open
hands.
Because
no
one
likes
to
be
possessed,
and
no
one
likes
to
have
you
demand
attention.
It
makes
them
want
to
run.
Does
me,
and
I'm
not
an
alcoholic.
Does
me
wanna
run?
But
it's
a
strange
thing
what
happens
when
we
can
apply
this
release
with
love.
And
then
get
busy
on
ourselves
to
try
to
find
out
what
makes
us
tick.
What
we
need
to
do
to
grow.
Because
I'll
tell
you
that
if
you
have
a
mate
who
comes
into
AA
before
you
go
to
Al
Anon,
watch
your
step
girls,
because
you'll
get
so
far
ahead
of
you,
so
fast
that
you'll
have
a
heck
of
a
time
catching
up.
Believe
me,
because
this
was
my
experience.
That's
the
beauty
of
it
when
the
Al
Anon
goes
to
Al
Anon
be
the
non
alcoholic
goes
to
Al
Anon
before
the
alcoholic
comes
to
AA.
And
she
has
a
little
head
start
on
him
and
it
won't
be
quite
so
hard.
But
when
a
guy
comes
to
to
a
a
ready
and
willing,
they
grow
apace.
And
we
better
get
busy
and
do
something
about
it,
or
something
will
happen
that
we
don't
like
very
well.
And,
that's
something
that
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
too,
The
family
end
of
this
problem.
I've
been
saying
lately
at
any
joint
meeting
that
I
happen
to
talk
at,
something
that
may
cause
some
resentment
amongst
the
alcoholics.
I
hope
not.
But
I'm
gonna
say
it
anyway.
And
this
is
another
place
that
I
have
grown.
You
see,
I
don't
mind
your
disapproval
anymore.
But
I
think
it's
something
that
I
have
watched,
and
there
are
too
many,
too
many
families
breaking
up
after
sobriety,
and
it's
something
that
has
disturbed
me
for
some
time.
I
don't
know
whether
you're
having
that
problem
as
much
up
here
as
we
seem
to
be
having
it
in
the
south.
But
everywhere
I
go
it
seems
to
be
rampant.
We're
missing
the
boat
somewhere.
We're
missing
the
boat.
And
one
of
the
places
that
it
seems
to
me
something
might
be
done,
I
wish
that
AA
would
talk
more
about
taking
this
program
home.
I
think
this
is
so
important,
because
if
we
have
an
unhappy
family,
we
have
an
unhappy
AA
in
Al
Anon,
don't
we?
What
is
the
use
of
this
program
if
it
doesn't
bring
us
closer
together?
Because
then,
when
one
member
is
in
Al
Anon
or
Alatine,
and
one
is
in
AA,
it's
identically
the
same
program,
each
of
us
are
working
the
program
in
our
own
particular
way,
then
perhaps
we
can
have
communication
for
the
first
time
in
our
lives.
Because
at
long
last
we
are
able
to
share
with
each
other
rather
than
to
tell
each
other.
And
the
necessity
to
argue
and
to
convince
the
other
fellow
that
we're
right
and
they're
wrong
goes
out
the
window,
Because
we
give
each
other
the
right
to
our
own
opinion,
and
we
can
discuss
without
arguing.
How
beautiful
it
is
when
you
see
a
family
that
is
going
down
this
pathway
separately
but
together,
like
2
railroad
tracks.
And
my
husband
brought
something
to
mind
the
other
night
when
I
said
that.
He
said,
Do
you
realize
that
when
you
look
at
2
railroad
tracks
that
way
off
in
the
distance
they
come
together?
And
it's
beautiful.
And
the
families
that
I
see
that
are
each
practicing
these
principles
to
the
best
of
their
ability
have
peace
and
joy
in
their
households.
And
the
children
that
are
going
to
Alatine
are
finding
answers
for
themselves.
But
they
find
it
in
their
way.
And
it
isn't
necessarily
our
way.
And
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
have
such
great
difficulty,
I
think,
in
communicating
with
our
young
people,
and
this
is
the
cry
that
is
all
over
the
world,
we
can't
talk
to
each
other.
Parents
can't
talk
to
their
kids.
The
kids
can't
talk
to
the
parents.
The
husband
can't
talk
to
the
wife.
The
wife
can't
talk
to
the
husband.
Nations
can't
talk
to
each
other.
It's
crazy.
And
it's
what's
wrong
with
the
world
today,
I
am
sure.
Because
we
have
to
tell
each
other
all
the
time
from
up
here
where
we
we
sit,
and
we're
not
willing
to
share
one
with
another.
And
I
think,
too,
one
of
the
reasons
why
families
are
breaking
up
sometimes
is
because
we
are
growing,
changing
people.
Those
of
us
that
are
trying
to
live
this
program
one
day
at
a
time.
Each
day
practically
we're
new
people.
New
people.
And
there
has
to
be
a
tremendous
amount
of
readjusting
all
the
time,
almost
daily.
But
the
willingness
and
the
flexibility
to
adjust
is
the
thing
that
we
need
to
learn
how
to
use.
The
willingness
to
be
flexible.
Because
so
many
of
us
non
alcoholics
I
know
are
managers.
We're
the
managing
type
a
lot
of
us,
and
we
want
things
the
way
we
want
them,
and
it's
pretty
hard
to
give
up
the
whip
hand,
you
know.
But,
I
think
in
Al
Anon
we
learn
something
else
that
I
think
is
tremendously
important.
We
learn
the
light
touch.
The
light
touch.
We
non
alcoholics
have
an
awful
tendency
to
be
too
serious.
Much
too
serious.
And
we
go
around
with
long
faces
and
sad
eyes.
And
why
shouldn't
the
guy
get
drunk?
We're
just
adding
to
his
guilt.
You
know?
I
would
think
that
any
man
that
comes
home
at
night,
drunk
or
sober,
and
sees
a
sad
eyed,
serious
woman
sitting
around
the
house,
that
he
want
to
go
out
and
shoot
himself.
I
would.
And
there
are
times
too
when
I
must
admit
I
I
have
seen
a
few
wives
that
I
don't
blame
the
husband
for
getting
drunk.
You
want
to
know
the
truth?
Maybe
I
am
one
of
those,
I
don't
know.
Oh
my,
but
it's
so
wonderful
to
be
able
to
laugh
at
yourself.
So
wonderful,
because
I
took
myself
so
terribly
horribly
seriously.
And
I
took
those
steps
and
I
beat
my
brains
out,
digging
digging
for
defects
of
character,
tearing
myself
apart
and
beating
my
breast.
I'm
not
worthy,
I'm
not
worthy,
I'm
not
worthy.
And
I've
learned
at
long
last,
taking
me
a
long
time
to
learn
this,
and
I'm
trying
to,
my
best
way
I
can,
to
pass
it
on
to
anyone
who
will
listen.
My
feeling
about
this,
and
that
is
you
take
those
first
three
steps,
to
the
best
of
your
ability,
and
you
come
to
the
fourth
the
inventory
step.
And
you
look
at
yourself
as
well
as
you
can
at
the
moment.
And
you
also
try
to
find
some
good
things
about
yourself.
And
then
the
5th
step
says
you
share
it
with
someone
else.
And
when
we
have
done
that,
the
6th
and
the
7th
say,
we
humbly
ask
God
to
remove
these
shortcomings,
and
these
defects
of
character.
Well,
if
we
have
really
taken
those
first
three
steps,
we
have
acquired
a
faith
and
a
trust
in
our
higher
power
that
we
cannot
deny.
If
we
are
going
to
let
God
remove
these
defects
of
character,
why
do
we
have
to
keep
on
for
years
digging
digging
digging
for
defects
of
character
and
beating
our
breasts
and
saying,
I'm
not
worthy,
I'm
not
worthy,
I'm
not
worthy.
Evidently
we
don't
trust
God
to
remove
these
defects
of
character
because
we're
forgetting
that
we
have
to
amend
steps
to
make,
which
my
husband
calls,
and
I
like
it
so
much
that
I'm
going
to
use
it.
It
feels
like
an
inside
shower.
And
then
you
see
we
have
a
10th
step,
which
is
our
daily
inventory.
And
when
we
have
taken
that
5th
step,
we
have
thrown
the
past
away.
And
it
is
no
longer
important.
Today
is
the
thing
that
is
important.
Because
you
see,
if
you
are
looking
at
and
living
in
the
problem
all
the
time,
looking
at
and
living
in
the
problem,
You're
never
really
living
in
the
answer,
are
you?
Never
really
living
in
the
answer.
Today
is
the
thing
that's
important.
What
were
my
motives
today?
How
did
I
handle
myself
today?
Did
I
allow
self
pity
to
creep
in
today?
Was
I
kind
and
considerate
today?
These
are
the
things
that
to
me
are
important.
Did
I
do
as
good
a
job
today
as
I
can
do?
And
then
you
have
the
11th
and
12th,
which
I
am
sure
is
the
thing
that
brings
us
eventually
into
this
beautiful
way
of
life
with
our
meditation
and
prayer,
and
our
sharing,
our
sharing.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
we're
apt
to
forget
is
that
that
12th
step
says,
and
practice
these
principles
in
all
of
our
affairs.
All
of
our
affairs.
And
that
means
at
home,
at
work,
at
play,
in
school,
and
in
AA
and
Al
Anon,
wherever
we
may
happen
to
be.
I
have
one
other
story
that
I
would
like
to
tell
you
because
I
think
there
are
some,
probably
quite
a
few
parents
in
this
room.
And
I
think
this
story
is
important
because
it
brings
out
why
I
am
so
sure
this
program
works,
if
you
will
just
let
it.
Just
let
it.
You
know,
one
of
my
friends
down
in
Laguna
in
fact
I
think
it
came
from
the
gal
that
started
the
Santa
Monica
group,
Which
to
me
is
one
of
the
most
wonderful
little
things
that
I
have
to
keep
reminding
myself
of
all
the
time.
It
goes
like
this:
When
you
can
stand
aside
and
let
God's
will
be
done
you
free
yourself
from
anxiety
and
a
mistaken
sense
of
responsibility.
I
guess
one
of
the
greatest
phrases
I
ever
heard.
And
this
is
what
I
want
to
give
this
little
story
about,
because
it
was
something
I
had
to
learn
to
do.
We
have
2
sons,
as
I
said,
and
the
younger
one
has
been
a
problem
to
us,
because
he
started
retiring
into
himself
as
a
young
lad.
And
he
was
a
loner,
and
he
wouldn't
let
people
in
his
circle,
and
he
began
to
push
us
away.
And
there
came
a
great
division
and
a
great
wall
between
us.
And
we
saw
him
occasionally,
but
he
he
could
care
less
whether
we
were
around
or
not.
And
it
was
just
one
of
those
things
that
seemed
to
happen
every
once
in
a
while
in
families.
And
one
night
I
was
sitting
at
home
alone
down
in
Laguna
when
Chuck
was
out
talking,
and
the
phone
rang
and
it
was
my
son.
And
he
was
so
angry
at
me
that
he
was
just
sputtering
over
the
telephone
because
I
had
given
an
interview
that
the
studio
had
not
ok'd.
And
I
didn't
know
that
the
studio
was
supposed
to
okay
interviews.
And
he
didn't
like
the
interview,
and
he
was
just
furious.
Well
this
anger
served
to
open
the
floodgates
because
you
see
this
is
the
first
time
that
I
have
ever
seen
this
boy
angry.
He
had
lived
behind
a
front
all
of
his
life
too,
and
he
never
showed
anybody
what
he
felt
inside.
Well
as
I
say,
this
opened
the
floodgates
and
out
on
me
came
the
downgondest
bunch
of
stuff
you
ever
heard.
He
didn't
like
me.
He
didn't
like
anything
about
me.
And
he
despised
his
father.
Now
most
of
you
know
his
father
and
you
know
what
a
great
man
he
is,
and
what
a
fine,
dear
person
he
is.
I
have
never
seen
so
much
resentment
come
out
of
a
boy's
mouth
in
my
life
and
it
all
came
out
on
my
head
at
once,
all
alone.
And
it
damn
near
destroyed
me,
because
I
reverted
just
like
that
to
my
old
stinking
thinking,
how
could
you
do
this
to
me?
What
have
I
done
to
deserve
this?
Think
of
all
the
things
I've
done
for
you
all
of
your
life
and
this
is
the
way
you
appreciate
it,
all
of
this
stuff
that
I
used
to
think.
I
didn't
tell
Chuck
anything
about
it
because
I
didn't
want
him
to
be
hurt,
as
I
knew
he
would
be.
He
said
he
thought
his
father
was
a
phony.
And
I
think
those
of
you
that
know
him
know
that
he's
anything
but
a
phony.
But
these
resentments
evidently
had
been
building
since
he
was
a
little
boy
and
no
one
had
known
anything
about
it.
Not
anything.
It
took
me
quite
a
while
to
get
myself
in
control.
And
I
went
down
to
my
Al
Anon
meeting
on
Monday,
I
think
this
was
a
Thursday
or
Friday
that
he
called,
and
I
thought
I
had
it
pretty
well
hidden.
But
the
minute
I
walked
in
the
room
they
knew
they
knew
something
was
wrong
and
they
said
to
me,
Elsa
you're
hurting.
What's
the
matter?
What's
the
matter?
And
I
told
them.
And
they
said,
Why
Elsa?
You
said
those
substance
souls.
You
told
us
this
and
that.
You're
not
practicing
what
you
preach.
Boy,
it
cut
the
ground
right
out
from
under
me
and
I
began
to
see
what
I
was
doing
to
myself
in
self
pity.
And
I
began
to
work
on
it
with
their
help.
And
I
finally
had
to
come
to
the
place
where
I
had
to
take
my
hands
off
of
this
boy's
life
completely.
I
had
to
give
him
the
freedom
to
hate
me
if
he
chose.
This
was
his
privilege
as
an
individual.
But
I
could
not
allow
that
hatred
to
destroy
me
and
I
had
to
find
my
own
peace
and
joy
in
spite
of
how
he
felt.
And
after
a
good
many
months
I
was
able
to
do
this
and
go
on
about
my
business
in
peace,
and
not
think
about
it
very
much
anymore.
And
you
know,
funny
part
of
it
was
instinctively
I
knew
I
had
to
stay
out
of
the
middle
between
this
boy
and
his
father.
That
this
was
their
problem
and
I
had
to
allow
them
the
privilege
to
work
it
out.
And
it
took
3
or
4
years,
believe
it
or
not.
This
is
what
I'm
talking
about
this
timing.
You
can't
put
a
time
limit
on
anything.
Patience.
Patience.
All
of
a
sudden
one
night
about
3
years
later,
Chuck
and
I
were
sitting
in
the
living
room
and
he
turned
to
me
and
he
said,
I've
got
to
make
an
appointment
with
the
boy.
I've
got
to
make
my
amends.
And
this
is
something
I
had
been
hoping
for
and
praying
for
for
years.
But
because
I
did
not
interfere,
it
allowed
it
to
happen.
And
he
called
him,
And
he
had
dinner
with
him
and
he
told
him
how
he
could
see
now
where
he
had
been
wrong.
Because
he
had
never
understood
this
boy.
Because
Chuck
is
an
earth
earthy
guy.
He's
a
businessman.
And
the
more
he
happens
to
be
an
artist,
and
an
actor,
and
a
singer.
And
they
just
didn't
understand
each
other.
So
he
told
him,
he
said,
do
you
remember
when
you
tried
to
explain
modern
art
to
me
and
I
made
fun
of
you
and
said
that
it
was
the
product
of
a
morbid
imagination.
And
Dick
said,
you
bet
I
do.
You
bet
I
do.
And
Chuck
said,
do
you
remember
when
you
brought
your
artist
friend
down
to
the
beach
for
dinner
and
you
were
discussing
some
philosophy
and
I
decided
that
you
didn't
know
a
damn
thing
about
what
you
were
talking
about.
So
I
gave
you
a
lecture
for
2
hours.
And
Dick
says,
You
bet
I
do.
Well
he
said,
Dick,
it's
been
only
recently
that
I
have
realized
that
when
2
people
look
at
the
same
thing
they
don't
necessarily
see
the
same
thing.
He
said,
People
come
down
to
the
house
and
they
look
out
my
window
down
over
Laguna
and
tell
me
what
they
see
and
they
don't
see
what
I
see
at
all.
They
see
something
entirely
different.
And
he
said,
I've
been
working
with
some
young
people
who,
in
AA
who
have
been
having
problems
with
their
parents.
And
I
can
see
their
problem
and
I
can
see
their
answers
so
clearly.
And
it
just
dawned
on
me
the
other
day
that
I
have
exactly
the
same
problem
with
you.
And
he
was
sharing
his
insides
with
the
boy
and
the
wall
came
down
almost
immediately.
And
the
boy
began
to
share
with
him
and
they
sat
there
in
a
restaurant
and
laughed
and
cried
together
and
disturbed
everyone
in
the
place.
And
this
summer
we
began
to
get
letters
from
the
boy
who
was
over
in
London.
Please
come
over.
I'm
dying
to
show
you
London.
And
we
thought
this
was
nice
but
we
didn't
think
we'd
do
anything
about
it.
And
one
day
we
got
a
letter
from
his
agent
over
there
who
was
a
young
man
just
a
few
years
older
than
he
is
saying,
Vic
has
talked
about
you
and
your
husband
so
much
and
is
so
anxious
for
you
to
come
over
that
I
would
like
to
add
my
plea
that
you
come
also.
And
Chuck
says,
go
and
get
packed.
Let's
go.
Let's
go.
And
we
spent
2
beautiful
months.
We
had
9
days
in
his
flat
with
him
alone.
Four
flights
up
and
no
lift.
Beautiful
days.
And
one
afternoon
when
Chuck
had
gone
to
an
AA
meeting
meeting
in
London
Dick
and
I
were
sitting
in
the
living
room
and
I
for
the
first
time
in
a
month
I've
never
been
able
to
talk
to
this
boy.
Never
been
able
to
except
on
the
surface,
you
know.
I
said,
Dick,
you
know
it's
a
funny
thing
but
I've
always
been
scared
to
death
of
you.
And
he
laughed
and
he
said,
That's
funny.
I've
always
been
scared
to
death
of
you.
And
we
sat
there
and
talked
like
2
perfectly
normal,
natural
people
about
the
hang
ups
that
we
had
had.
And
no
longer
are
we
afraid
of
each
other,
of
the
image
that
we
present.
A
gal
in
our
group
with
both
AA
and
Al
Anon
said
one
day
something
that
hit
me
like
a
ton
of
bricks.
She
said,
I
was
in
love
with
my
image
and
I
hated
myself.
And
this
is
exactly
the
way
I
grew
up.
Just
exactly.
So
you
see
the
the
Al
Anon
and
the
AAE
women
aren't
so
different,
really.
Those
of
us
that
marry
alcoholics
anyway.
We
have
the
same
hamming
ups,
the
same
feelings,
the
same
wants,
the
same
desires,
the
same
love,
the
same
necessity
for
approval,
the
whole
bit.
But
here
is
an
answer
that
takes
care
of
the
whole
package
if
we
will
but
do
it.
That's
the
main
thing.
I
have
had
to
act
as
though
these
things
were
true
and
prove
them
in
my
own
life.
And
it
has
given
me
a
freedom
that
I
thank
you
for
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart.
Because
it
is
people
like
you
that
have
given
me
back
my
ability
to
love.
You've
given
me
back
my
children.
You've
given
me
back
my
husband.
And
you've
given
me
back
me.
Thank
you
very
much.