Scott L. from Nashville, TN speaking in Daytona Beach, FL

Good afternoon. My name is Scott, and I'm an alcoholic. Is this thing working? No. It's gone.
No? Okay. Uh-oh. I can't do that. Pull it up.
Did I do it? K. We do it that time. Okay. Brace yourselves.
Here it comes. I know that your local customer give you sobriety date. Mine's June 28th 1984. Close. And, my home group is the backroom group in Nashville, Tennessee.
And, they're a great bunch of people. I have a very important announcement and that's that we need, to sell some more barbecue tickets if you don't have one. John's got them there in the back. We're gonna take a break here in about an hour, and I'm sure he'd be more than happy to, to acquaint you closely with 1 at that time. I'd like to open the meeting as I usually do by quoting Lois Wilson, cofounder of Al Anon, Bill's wife, who was asked one time what did she do in the moment of silence before the meeting, and she said, I invite God to the meeting.
That was powerful for me. And I started doing that, and meetings got better everywhere. And so what I'm gonna do here in a few minutes is I'm gonna ask for another moment of silence and do something I've already done, and that's invite God to, to join us and fill this room with love and to bless me with an open heart that that he might share through it at the worst case that I might share through it. We talk in our fellowship about the language of the heart and for me, learning to lay down the language of the gutter and to pick up the language of the heart has been part of my recovery. It's incomplete but I can report progress.
And, what I'd like to ask you to do is to invite God to join us and bless you with an open heart that you might hear through it. And later on, when we get to sharing from the microphone that that that you would share through it also. And in case there's someone here who doesn't have a god, borrow mine for this time that we're together. I think you'll like him a lot. Or if you got one that you're afraid of, try and let's see it.
Just do for an experiment and we'll see what happens. So let's take a moment and invite God to join us and fill this room with love and I'll meet you back here. Amen. And thank you. Thank you very much.
Anybody here sober less than 60 days? Come on. Great. Great. We are so glad you're here.
Thanks for coming. I I hope we're gonna have some fun. A lot of what I do in this is, I think it's kinda funny. I hope you do. I wanna tell you that I do not consider myself an expert on the, 4 step.
I am a 4 step junkie, but I am not a 4 step expert. And, I love your your slogan, your theme. It's in the book because that's what we're gonna talk about. It's in the book. I'm gonna talk very briefly about the first and second steps, a little bit more in-depth about the 3rd step and most of my presentation is gonna be on the 4th step.
We will be taking a break to give you an idea. Because the 4th step is, by the way, the easiest I think of all of the steps. It is, maybe the longest. And if you don't think so, stick around and, and we'll talk about it here a little bit later. I I think you're gonna find that it's fun.
I'm gonna start by doing a little bit of, a book study. Do a little bit of reading here so that we can establish, some definitions, I think, before we get started. And I'm gonna start, on page 59 with what my sponsor said was the definition of the program. He said, here are the steps we took which are suggested as a program of recovery. So there was the definition of the program.
I hear the word thrown around a lot And there's the definition for it. And a matter of fact, on page roman numeral, 22, I find a phrase that that even enlightens that a little bit. And it says the 12 steps that summarize the program. So what that means to me is that the 12 steps that we see in the wall in a lot of places or that we see on pages 5960 are a summary. They are the cliff notes if you will.
And I had too much wagered on this to try to slide by on an outline. I needed the full shot. At least my sponsor said I did. And consequently, I went for the whole thing. So what we're gonna talk about is is the the work out of this book.
I'd also like to read what looks to me like the definition of sponsorship on page 96 in the text. This is in the, chapter working with others. And they've been talking for a few pages about a 12 step call where someone's gone out to to, a newcomer who was willing to talk to him. They shared a little bit of their story. They've heard some of his.
They laughed a little. They cried a little. Left in one of the books and said, read this in the meantime and we'll talk again. Am I doing that? Shame on you.
Okay. So for me, here is the definition of sponsorship in, in 2 sentences. The the warm up sentence sentence is suppose you are now making your 2nd visit to a man. So we describe the first one. And then here's the definition I think of someone who's sponsorable.
Says he has read this volume and says he is prepared to go through with the 12 steps of the program of recovery. So that looks to me like the definition of someone who's sponsorable. And then the following sentence to me defines sponsor. It says, having had the experience yourself you can give him much practical advice. What experience?
The experience of working the 12 steps. What advice? Advice on how to work the 12 steps. Now I use the word work the 12 steps, take the 12 steps, do the 12 steps. I use those interchangeably.
I don't care. To me it's an action verb. It it doesn't have to do with what goes on in the mind and I'd like to quote page 20 and then I'm gonna get into the work here. This is from page 20 of the text. If you are an alcoholic who wants to get over it, you may already be asking what do I have to do.
It is the purpose of this book to answer such questions specifically. We shall tell you what we have done. I wanna note what it does not say. It does not say, what do I have to learn? We'll teach you what we know.
It doesn't say, what do I have to believe? We will give you a new religion. It does not say what do I have to understand, we will teach you how to interpret. We'll teach you what it says is what do I have to do, we shall tell you what we have done. I'm going to share with you today what I have done and what apparently some other people who are have some continuous sobriety have done also.
I'd like to note that the first time I saw the 12 steps of the summary form that we're talking about on a wall, they looked to me like they had been written by a hanging judge who was having a rather bad day. They really, the first time you see the steps, for those of you who don't they look like they're designed to punish you, to make you pay the price for being the rotten person you are? I mean, that's what I thought. That's what it looked like. I was wrong about so many things, and that was just one of them.
That the steps were actually designed to help me lay down my burden, and I wouldn't have believed that until I did them. And now I'm certain that that's what it is. I told my sponsor that I didn't want to do the steps and he said, that's okay. And I said, good. And he said, long as you do them.
And I said, Jerry, I don't think we're communicating. And he said, sure we are. That's the definition of willingness. Willingness is when I do what I'm supposed to whether I feel like it or not. See, I didn't know I could do something I didn't feel like because it had been a couple decades since I'd done something I didn't feel like.
So here was a definition I could work with. And I wanted to feel like he looked, and he told me the way he got it was by doing this work. And, he said our program, by which he meant the 12 steps expanded for him, the book, is kinda like going to the dentist. We got a drill before we can fill. We got to reach inside you and dig this poison out before we can start packing you full of good stuff.
Because if we just pack the good stuff on top, what's inside is gonna continue to rot and eventually it's gonna detonate. So we're gonna have to get it out. But staying with the dentist metaphor, he says we got I got good news. The good news is we got Novocaine. We call it sponsorship.
We call it love. We call it home group. We call it meetings. And he was right. And so I allowed him to coach me through the 12 steps and changed my life.
So I needed to change I needed to be changed. I didn't have the power to change me. But what I had the power to do was to change my actions on one day, this one. And that was all. And when I applied that principle to this work, I found it to be fairly easy.
Because you see, people told me all my life that I learned from my that we learned from our mistakes. I never did. I never learned a thing from my mistakes. What I learned from was living with the results of my mistakes. I'm like the dog that wets on the rug.
What has he learned? Nothing. When did he start learning? When his nose got rubbed in it. I'm the same way.
And with steps 4 through 10, what I do is I embrace my results. I insist upon rubbing my own nose in my mistakes. And consequently, I learn not to make the same ones again. Because when I'm about to make the same mistake the second time, I don't remember, hey, that's a mistake. I remember what it was like rubbing my own nose in it last time.
That's what I remember. And and that moves me on, I I like to say and I'm not perfect, but but living what's in this book, today I am still making mistakes, but but I'm making a much finer quality mistake than I ever made before. We have a name for that. Right? We call it progress.
You bet. Sure. And the amends are not nearly significant. I hate amends worse than communism. Don't you?
I mean, gee, I hate doing that. So consequently, I try not to to make the same ones again anyway. I had the privilege a number of years ago of getting together with a number of men, and we went through the big book, not as a book study, but as a big book workshop. We decided we wanted what the first hundred people Bill wrote it. They edited it.
What they had, we wanted. And consequently, as we came through the book, if we came to something they said that they had done or had seen or had observed, then we stopped and did it or saw it or observed it. So we came through the book and we did the book rather than trying to study the book. I I guess you hear what I'm saying. And we call that little outfit the Bill Wilson Literary Society.
And, we had a lot of fun with it. It took us about a year and a half and, we discovered a lot of of what I'm gonna try to show you here today. The, I heard this in a meeting one time and the girl who said it was not trying to get a laugh. I am, I'll admit. But I think it it described for me the first step so beautifully.
She said, I'm having trouble getting a grip on letting go. And I've had that trouble. So I'm gonna start with the first couple of steps. I'm gonna begin on page 59 with, reading of the summary of the first step. It says, we admitted we were powerless of our alcohol that our lives had become unmanageable.
I thought the word therefore appeared in the first step for a couple of years, and it's not there. That hyphen is English punctuation. And if you look it up in a dictionary, it'll tell you that in that a hyphen connects 2 unrelated thoughts. And the reason I was confused was because the fact that I was powerless over alcohol, the fact that my life was a disaster, those two facts were related the the first day I was sober. Today, a little over 15 years sober, the fact that I'm powerless over alcohol and that my life is unmanageable are not related.
They're not related. My my life remains unmanageable. I can't find any place past page 59, and I have read this, that says, having achieved this level, your life is now manageable. Tanks, roll keys are in it. Have a great time.
I can't find it. I do find some places that promise man that promise sanity. So my life, I believe, based on that, continues to be unmanageable by me. That's why I need a God. That's why I need a program.
That's why I need a sponsor. That's why I need a home group. It's because when I'm in the driver's seat, things don't work out. So unmanageability for me remains. It's what I'm gonna talk to you about today is the way I talk to the men I sponsor.
And I hope I don't sound like I think I'm an authority because I don't. All I the only way I know to present this is the way that I presented it to them, so that's why I'm presenting it to you. I'm gonna start on page 60 with the ABCs. A, that we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives. And I asked a new man, is that true?
Is that true of you? Tell me about it. And I asked him to to explain that. And then when he's finished I say, and be that no human power probably no human power relieved your alcoholism. Is that true?
Who tried? You tried, your mother tried, your wife tried, the judge tried, your cellmate tried. Who tried? We talk about that. That God could and would if he were sought.
Interestingly enough, it doesn't say found. Says sought. It is in the action. Item 1, God is not lost. Right?
So he doesn't have to be found. And it is in the seeking. And that's the end of what we read from the chapter how it works in most meetings. Interestingly enough, the next phrase says, being convinced we were at step 3. Being convinced to what?
A, b, and c. That I'm alcoholic and can't manage my own life. No human power can relieve my alcoholism and God can and will if I will merely seek him. And being convinced of that, I am at step 3. What I'm gonna say may go against a lot of what you believe.
That's great. I'd love to talk about it later if if we have a disagreement. It's a chance for me to learn something. But it looks to me like the 3rd step is about 6 or 7 parts and I'm gonna talk about those. And I wanna reemphasize.
When I talk about the step, I don't mean the one on the wall. I mean the one in the book. So being convinced, we were at step 3, which is that we decided to turn our well in life over to God as we understood him. Interestingly enough, the 3rd step is not where we turn our will in life over to the care of God. It's where we decide to.
If I could actually turn my will in life over to the care of God at the 3rd step, looks to me like we'd probably have a 3 step program. And what could be left after that? I can't think of anything. And so the question becomes, how do you do that? Well, it says, we decided to and I'll tell I'll tell my story tomorrow morning and you'll hear just a little bit little bit broader.
But the difference between an intention and a decision, an intention is followed by more intentions. We all know about that. Right? A decision is followed by action. And it looks to me like the prescribed action to accomplish the decision that's called for in the outline of the 3rd step.
That the prescribed action is numbered 4 through 12. And I would point at the first line of the 12 step. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps. Doesn't say a, which I hear read a lot in meetings, it says d. We promised that.
We promised that if you will do these things, not believing that they'll work for you, it'll be just fine. If you'll just do them. See the steps don't know who's working them. They don't care. That you will have this spiritual awakening.
My spirit awakens to the presence of the real me, not the act I've been all my life. And the real God, not the one that was keeping score and that was mad at me. And that's that's that spiritual awakening. So, in the next paragraph, it says the first requirement is that we'd be convinced that any life run on self will can hardly be a success. I asked a man, are you convinced of that?
How did your life work with you running it on your self will? And, we can explore that if we need to. I I think most of you got it. The lady here got it. I'll tell you right now.
It didn't work out that well, did it ma'am? No. Uh-huh. Or we probably wouldn't have met this way, would we? No.
Uh-huh. And then there's something else that for me is very powerful in this next sentence. Says, on that basis, that's the basis of self well running my life. We're almost always in collision. Collision, that's a great word.
Collision with something or somebody even though our motives are good. I hear around the fellowship check your motives. I think the book just told me that even if my motives are good, I'm gonna be in collision with people. Maybe it's the principles that I need to check instead of my motives. Because sometimes when my motives are good, I get into big trouble and I could never could figure that out.
And I think it's because I would violate principles with good motives. If I hang with good principles, I stay in pretty good shape. It's pretty obvious. I'm skipping quite a bit of material, but, in in I love this on page 61. Is he not a victim of the delusion that he can rest satisfaction and happiness out of this world if he only manages well?
I continue on occasion to become a victim of the delusion that if I can manage well, I'll be happy. That if I can get what I want, it'll make me happy. That's a delusion. I got what I wanted lots of times. It never made me happy.
Getting what I wanted gives me a hunger for more, better, and different. Getting what I want only gives me an appetite. That there's never enough. There isn't enough out there. And this God sized hole, God sized and shaped hole in me can only be filled that way, is with God.
So if I wanna be happy, what I have to have is a healthy relationship with God, which for me is kinda what these directions are about. I gotta have a healthy relationship with you. Gotta be a healthy relationship with God. Page 62. Selfishness, self centeredness that we think is the root of our troubles.
That is the absolute best news in the book. Here in the next paragraph, it says it says on the next paragraph, so our troubles we think are basically of our own making. Isn't that fantastic? I mean, because if it really is, the cops in the courts, and the Russians, and the Chinese, and the pro officers, and the PTA, and the ex wife, it really is all of them. I'm beat.
Because there's nothing I can do about them. And I think the best news I got my whole life is that I'm the problem. Because that we can work on. That we can work on. And this is where we do that.
It says above everything, we alcoholics must be rid of this selfishness and we're gonna attack that. And there is often seems no way of entirely getting rid of self without his aid, capital h on his his aid. And further down that paragraph it says, we had to have God's help. So we've discovered so far is one piece of the third step. I've read some other things, but it said the first requirement that we'd be convinced that any life running self will can hardly be a success at the bottom of page 60.
Here's the bottom of page 62. This is the how and why of it. First of all, we had quit playing God. So we have 2 first. Now, I wouldn't change that for anything.
That's our deal. So we had to quit playing God. And, a man whose program I respect dramatically talked to me last summer a little bit about what that meant to him. Here's some of the ways that some of us have played God. One is I try to manage my own life.
A second one is I try to manage all of the lives around me. Another very interesting one that's pretty common is being angry at God when somebody dies, or how they die. Because what I'm doing when I do that is I am actually playing God. I'm deciding who should die and how. And that is clearly not my job.
And another one I think is very very clear, is that I have a resentment. It's only one way to get one. Only one way to get a resentment. I must judge someone, find them guilty, be angry with them and then feel that anger again. That's what a resentment is.
So those are ways that I I play God. So it says said, first of all, we had to quit playing God. So I asked a new guy, are you wanting to quit playing God? Have you done these things? Are you willing to stop?
I'm not asking if you're able. Are you willing? They say, yeah. It didn't work. How about that?
We're asking they're asking me to stop doing something that isn't working. Thank you. It says, next, we decided that hereafter in this drama of life, God was going to be our director. He is the principal. We are his agents.
He is the father. We are his children. So there's the decision that the third step references. Is the decision that, that God's gonna be the director and the principal, and that that I'm the child and I'm the agent. And I ask I ask a new man, I wanna hear your decision.
Tell me. If you need to read that in the 1st person singular read it, but I wanna hear your decision. We're gonna make this decision. I wanna hear it. And I said, you can change it anytime you want to.
Just call me up. We'll sit down and, and you can formally change that decision. But up until then, I will have to assume that that decision stands. My 3rd step decision stands. Some days, I implement it better than better than other days.
But my decision stands. I don't have to take the 3rd step every day, although I use the prayer frequently. But for me, the prayer is all of these parts that we're looking at here. And it says, most good ideas are simple and this concept was the keystone to the new and triumphant arts through which we pass to freedom, and I need to be free. Oh, how desperately I needed to be free.
And then the paragraph at the top of page 63, I'm sure most of you are familiar with are the, 3rd step promises. And I don't believe I'm gonna read those right now. And then it says, we were now at step 3. And and it it gives a prayer and says, God, I offer myself to thee to build with me and do with me as thou wilt. Relieve me of the bondage of self that I may better do thy will.
Take away my difficulties that victory over them may bear witness to those I would help of thy power, thy love and thy way of life. May I do thy will always. There's no amen. And I asked the man to read that silently. Because the next sentence says, we thought well before taking this step.
Making sure we were ready that we could at last abandon ourselves utterly to him. And I recommended that if you have not done this that you think well because I'm gonna tell you something. You do this, your life is gonna change. I promise it. And some of the things that you would dearly love to have and keep are going away.
And some of what you wouldn't like to have is going to show up. Nigga I mean, if you ask me what I want, if I were to really tell you the truth, you know what I want? I wanna take the rest of my life off with pay. Right? I don't want any more lessons.
Right? I don't wanna be changed anymore. I want it all I want you guys to all please shape up and then I'll be just fine. That's what I want. Yeah.
Uh-oh, caught another one. Guilty. And, I think it's important to think well because this is important stuff. This is to me an invitation. In some measure, I believe I'm about to say not fully, but that my God's a gentleman.
Doesn't go where he's not invited. Doesn't stay where he's not made welcome. And this is a formal invitation of God into your life to build with and do with as he will. And sometimes before we can build on a foundation, we've got to tear down a structure that's already not working. And I've seen that a lot.
Don't take this lightly. This is not light duty stuff. Not at all. And when someone says they are ready, we kneel down and I ask them to say the prayer. And I usually cry.
I'm a crier. And, frequently they do. And, it says at the bottom of the next paragraph, this was only a beginning though if honestly and humbly made an effect, sometimes a very great one was felt at once and I have seen that. I've seen I've seen huge experiences happen at the 3rd step prayer. I've seen others where it didn't seem like much happened and, that doesn't matter.
That doesn't matter. What matters is action. So I hear raging around our fellowship the question of, well, when should I take a 4 step? And some people say, don't take a 4 step too soon you may drink. In 15 years, I have not yet seen anyone take a 4 step too soon and drink.
I have seen several barge loads wait too late. I have yet to see anyone take it too soon because the steps are designed to give me relief and the relief begins at the 4th step and that's what we're gonna discover is what kind of relief it it is and how it comes. The book is not please, I hope you think this is funny. I do. The book is not specific about when to take a 4 step.
Some people say take one step. I think that's insane. Some people say don't make any major decisions your 1st year. We have just asked you to decide to turn your will in life over to the care of God. Does that sound like a major decision to anyone here?
Maybe we need to be careful with these little things, little pearls that aren't in the book. I don't know. It's just a thought. So the question I I usually have the my, my victim, my, guy I'm sponsoring. Read.
Yeah. Little truth there. And I say, the book actually makes 2 time references about one to make a to do a 4 step. And then there are 2 different time references. And I figured when it gives that kinda leeway, we could use either of those 2 or anything in between.
Certainly seems fair to me. Doesn't it seem fair to you? I said, well, yeah. That's fair. I said, well, you go ahead and read and I'll interrupt.
And they read next. I said, woah. There's one. So so the first sentence or the first word in the next paragraph says, next we launched out on a course vigorous action. The first step of which is a personal house cleaning which many of us had never attempted.
Now our decision, right, we talked about the decision, was a vital. Vital comes from the the Latin word, meaning life. That means your life is wagered on it. Was a vital and crucial step that could have little permanent effect unless it wants whoops. At once, there's a time reference.
So after you've done your 3rd step prayer, you have leeway. You can start your 4 step either next or at once or anywhere in between if I sponsor you. Okay? It gives leeway, we take it. Is it alright.
Does that seem fair? Mhmm. And I think it's really interesting. It says, though our decision was a violent crucial step, it could have little permanent effect unless at once followed by a strenuous effort to face and to be rid of the things in ourselves which had been blocking us. Interestingly enough, in the 4th step we are going to be rid.
And I would tell you that is my sincere belief that writing it down will not get rid of it. And that the 4th step is not about writing. And I think that's what we're gonna find in here. That there is writing involved, but it has for me and the men that I have had the experience of working with very little therapeutic effect. But interesting that we're going to face and be rid.
That's so important. I'm gonna say it again in the next paragraph. The things in ourselves which have been blocking us, good news again. It's the things in me that are blocking me and that we can work on. Therefore, we started upon a personal inventory.
This was step 4. A business which takes no regular inventory usually goes broke. Taking a commercial inventory is a fact finding and a fact facing process. It is an effort to discover the truth about the stock and trade. One object is to disclose damaged or unsalable goods to get rid, it says again.
To get rid of them promptly and without regret. We did exactly the same thing with our lives. We took stock honestly. First, we searched out the flaws in our makeup which caused our failure. There's the good news one more time.
Boy, that must be important. Don't you think? They sure are hammering on it. Being convinced itself manifested in various ways was what had defeated us. We considered its common manifestations.
That sentence confuses me and I do better if I leave out what's between the commas. Try it once and see how it works for you. Being convinced itself was what had defeated us, we considered its common manifestations. That's what we're trying to say here. So I'm gonna give you a little overview of what the 4 step in this book looks like to me.
Now I had the experience of doing one of the psychobabble 4 steps that the treatment center had about do you look in the toilet before you flush and you still ate your mother, all that stuff, you know. And that was I got something out of that I need to report. It got me to the 5th step where I did get some relief. But I recommend this 4 step. I mean, the actual real life sure enough one of a kind only 4 step on the planet.
The real one here that we're gonna explore. What I've discovered it to be is a series of lists, observations, and prayers That cover 3 separate parts of self, which is what we've been talking about is the flaws in our makeup. And they are resentment, fear, and sexual misconduct. I do not find a sex inventory in here. I find one that inventories only the dark side.
It doesn't say anywhere that I can find where in the sexual arena did you do the things that you thought were right. That direction is not in here. Taking the 4th step out of this book, several of the major things that I did in my life that were the worst things that I did did not appear on my 4th step. And they were not called for. They were called 4 in 5.
In the 5th step they were called for, but there was no place to write a couple of mine in these directions. So So it's gonna be a series of lists, observations and prayers about resentment, fear and sexual misconduct. And it is not making the list that helps me. I make the list so that I can make the observations. That's that's where the therapeutic effect begins.
And the observations show me how to pray. So that's what the 4th step is about. Most of us and certainly me included who read this the first time when we got to the end of the chapter, closed our eyes, we mentally drew a line under it, we thought we added it all up and we thought the sum said, write the story of your life and be sure to include every rotten thing you ever did. Doesn't say that. So what we're going to do is to look for, the last time I counted, I counted 26 specific directions in this book on how to take a 4 step.
My counts a little bit higher now because I found something else. Somebody I didn't find it. Somebody showed me something else the other day. And taken one at a time in order, this is the easiest of all of the steps. And we're gonna find that starting right now.
So the next sentence begins, resentment is the number one offender. It destroys more alcoholics than anything else and from it stem all forms spiritual disease. I wanna try that again. Resentment is the number one offender. It destroys.
Destroys? Holy mackerel destroys More alcoholics than anything else? And from it stem all forms of spiritual disease? This must be bad stuff. We must gonna have to get rid of this stuff.
For we have been not only mentally and physically ill, we have been spiritually sick. When the spiritual malady, which is another word for sickness, is overcome, we straighten out mentally and physically. The word resentment comes from the Latin. The Latin prefix re r e means again like reload. And centile is a verb which means to feel.
So it means literally to feel again. And in English, it means to feel anger again. It's that sickness that that lives inside when I don't let go of something. So now what we're gonna do is to look for directions. It says in dealing with resentments, we set them on paper.
That's a generalization. They're gonna tell us very specifically how to do that. Says we listed people, institutions, or principles with whom we were angry. Calls for a list. Think about the last list you saw.
Chances are it was a grocery list. Chances are it was a series of words and phrases that ran down a page. I do not recall the last list I saw that went across a page. So taking this very literally, which is what I like to do, before we go anywhere else, we need a list. My experience is for those of you who have sponsored and actually helped someone do the work out of this book, if you take them any further than this, they will work across the page.
You can bet your ranch on it. Alright. We're Americans. We work across the page. It's how it is.
So if you want them to work down the page like the book says, then you need to stop right here. And what I suggest now and I again, tongue in cheek, I like to say at this point now, you're probably wondering since we're gonna stop right here what color of paper to write this on with color ink. Was anyone wondering that? No? The book is not specific about that either.
Over here on page 67, it says we placed them before us in black and white. Not specific. Doesn't say black ink, white paper could easily be black paper white ink. And if that's what you need to do, please do. I sponsor a guy who had to do that.
He refused to believe this is gonna work for him. And every time we work together, he said, I don't believe this is gonna work for me. And I said, that's just fine. Let me ask you one question. Do you believe that I believe it'll work for you?
He said, no doubt about it. I said, well, that's good enough. We're gonna do it my way. He said, okay. Can you believe that kind of illogic?
Well, of course, there's a nuke, you know. Anyway, so he went down to the art supply store and he got himself about an inch of black paper and a 3 hole punch and 2 pens that wrote in white ink. And he took it in black and white. Alright. And if you need to do that, please do.
Please do it. For me, the easy way is with a spiral notebook that has white paper in it and a pen that writes black ink. And that's the way I do mine. And I can I've got one at home, an old one at home, why I unintentionally unintentionally picked up a blue writing pen one time. And I wrote less than one letter.
It scared me so bad. Because that's what the book was I mean, because I want what they had. And I don't know and now I don't need to be making judgments as to what's important here and what's not. And what applies to me and what doesn't. My sponsor wanted me to be thorough.
And, so anyway, so what we need here is now we need a list. And I suggest a spiral notebook. And, if you will imagine for a moment that, that I'm hold holding one up here. On on the inside cover of the spiral notebook, you've got a a single page on your right and you've got just a, you know, the inside cover on your left. And I recommend that you write something subtle on that inside page like this is my 4 step.
Please respect it. If I find you with it, I will kill you and hide your body. Something like that. That's what I recommend. And then when you turn the page, those two facing pages you're looking at are 1 page because we're gonna do a 4 column inventory and so it would look like this.
This is the spiral down the middle and you write a one up here. That's gonna be the 1st column. 2, 3, and 4. And you start writing names. Now, the question is how much and how often and all that kind of thing.
I wanna talk a lot about that because I think it's important. There are a 168 hours in a week. If you're working 40 hours a week and it takes you a half hour to drive to work, that's 45 hours including the drive to work. If you sleep 8 hours a night, that's 54. If you go to 7 meetings and you go a little early instead, a little later, if you have a long drive, that's 15 more hours.
If breakfast takes you 15 minutes and lunch takes an hour and dinner takes 45 minutes, that's another 14 hours. If you talk to your sponsor 4 hours a week on the phone, that's reasonable. If it takes you 2 hours to cut the grass. If you have a a little league team and you're fortunate enough to have a family and you have to do some family stuff around the house, like maybe your share of the laundry or do the dishes or maybe take your wife out on a date, that's probably gonna get about another 12. If you help with the grocery shopping and you have to buy some clothes and do some other errands, that's another 2.
If you're doing prayer and meditation and you're serious about it, it's probably costing you about an hour a day. That's 7 more. If you're reading the big book, the 12 and 12 a little bit, the newspaper, maybe you're reading the book for fun. That's probably another 5. If you do a little recreation, maybe swim a little bit, fish, play around to golf, that's another 4.
That's a 164 hours gone out of your 168 hour week. And I don't think these steps are designed to pound me into the pavement. They're not designed to take away from any other section of my life. Now, if you have a different lifestyle, maybe you're working a 40 hour job and you got another 15 hour part timer. Or maybe you're wealthy and you don't work at all.
So I vary these things a little bit. I pray about it and I trust what I get. I trust my God and I've I've learned, the information in the 11th step talks about this intuitively no thing and I just trust it. But typically, I ask a newcomer for 3 30 minute sessions a week. Because if you give yourself the task of completing a 4 step, you must hate yourself until it's done.
This makes it so difficult. You absolutely gotta hate yourself till it's over. If however, I can get a newcomer to agree that I'm an expert on the 4 step which I've already told you I'm not, but compared to him I am. And that he's not. And that if I say 3 30 minute periods a week is enough, it is.
Then he can feel good about himself while he's in the process. In fact, a process. So I think that's important. I have my newcomers phone my answering machine on Sunday afternoons and tell me when they're gonna do their 4 step next week. And Monday Wednesday Friday doesn't get it.
Monday from 6 PM till 6:30, ah, that's an appointment. They're made that way. Now yeah. And so all of a sudden, yeah, the the kids' little league team made the playoffs and you didn't think they had a chance and you can't do your Saturday one, fine. Reschedule it and just do it.
It's like anything else on my schedule. It's important. It is not subject to cancellation. It may have to get moved a little, but it's not subject to cancellation. So you feel good about yourself while you're in the process.
I think that's very important. I asked them to do the sessions like this. The first, lay down a watch. Second 1 is to spend the first 5 minutes in prayer and meditation. I suggest that they pray for clarity and courage because you're probably gonna need them both and whatever else they're comfortable with.
And the next 25 minutes with a black or white pen, writing. And the way that I like to have them do that back in the spiral notebook is to write one name, skip one line. That was not an estimate. 1 is an actual count. Right?
One name, skip one line, write another name, skip another line. When you get to the bottom of the page, you must turn the page because we got columns 34 over here. And they just have you just write them just as fast and as hard as you can. Just just throw them as fast as they'll go. And when they slow down, I recommend they take a look at the bottom of page 65.
It says we went back through our lives. So that suggests that I think about the present. Okay? I'm living in Nashville. I'm working at this place.
I got these people in my life. 3 years ago, I lived in Louisville, Kentucky. And I worked at this place and I lived here and I went to this church. And so you go back through your life and think about it in segments. And what we're looking for is institutions or people, institutions or principles with whom we are angry.
If you've ever been angry at them, even if you're sure you've forgiven them, write them down. The question is, well, what about one I'm unsure of? And the answer is, when in doubt, write it out. Far, far better for us to get further into this process and discover that something you have down there is not a resentment than to leave you with 1 in there that is literally eating your soul. We're gonna later say it's blocking you from the sunlight of the spirit.
On this page, it said it destroys more alcohol. It's nothing else. I don't need anything inside me that'll destroy me. So when in doubt, I suggest that they write it out. And I like to stop right there with them until they have finished the list.
Well, how do you know when the list is finished? My answer to that is when you can sit for 5 full minutes in one of those sessions and not think of another name, call me and we'll look for the 2nd direction. Because you see, this isn't your 4 step. This is your first 4 step or it's your next 4 step. We are not saving a special alcove in Akron at the AA Hall of Fame for your 4 step.
Alright? You are not gonna get the perfect 4 step. I get my hands on the newcomer's 4 step as soon as I can with this pen, and I give him a f minus on that title page because it's an attitude. And the attitude, it's okay not to do it perfect. See, if you gotta do it perfect, you can't do it at all.
That's my situation. So it's okay not to do it perfectly because we're gonna have to do it again. I gotta do it again. I'm late now. I have to keep doing it.
Now I know people who believe you do the first 9 steps once and stay somewhere around 10, 11, 12. Great. That's fine with me. Whatever they wanna do is okay with me. But my own experience is on my 8th, 4th step, I discovered resentments that were 25 years old that I was unable to see until then because I'm the onion being peeled.
So I have to keep going back through the work. What anybody else does is really quite okay with me. The other thing that I like to say in regards to this perfectionism thing is I like to tell tell the newcomer that that my home group does not give a trophy every year for the best 4 step. Right? We don't.
And this is the trophy that we don't give. K? The the this is the trophy that you are not gonna get. K? If you're too far back, you can't read.
It says 4 step trophy, never awarded. Right? So you are not gonna get the 4 step trophy. We're not gonna do this thing perfectly. That that's that's not our goal.
Our goal is to do 3 30 minute periods a week. You know, most of you know how to eat the elephant. You know how to eat the elephant? One bite at a time, baby. One bite at a time.
One of these days, that thing is gone. One of these days, it's gone. It's amazing. So when they call me and they say, okay. I got my list.
They say, now I wanna organize it. I say, no. No. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
We are pressing on. We're not gonna make this thing because you know what's happening? They see 9 coming, and that's scary. That is really scary. My experience has been Linda and I have talked about this quite a bit.
My experience has been that people who have trouble doing steps 4 through 9, their god's too small. If I find somebody locking up his brakes on me anywhere in that process, I wanna sit down and talk about his god because the chances are somebody's got one that's still angry or that has kept score or has already damned them literally. And those are the kinds of things that need to be worked on. Because if I don't have a a large, forgiving, friendly god to walk into what my wife calls the dark cave of steps 4 through 9, I can't go. I just can't go.
So I think it's important to explore that. Because for me, the courage to do that work came from my belief that god was not having a bad day in the middle of a long losing streak when he came up with me or anyone else. I believe that. And, I think many newcomers I know I felt this way when I got here. Believe they've committed the unforgivable sin.
I want you to know that I don't believe that. And if there's someone here, if you're new or if you're not new and you think you have, if you'll come see me after we finish this session, I'll dump my bucket for you. I'll give my you my 4 or 5 worst ones real quick. Chances are good I'm gonna hit yours. Chances are good I'm gonna hit yours.
I've I've had the privilege to listen to about a 100 5th steps. No one's ever impressed me because you see I've heard mine. And everybody's got their own their own we've all done the worst. We have all done the worst. A friend of mine says, god forgives me for everything I ever did and he loved me while I was doing it.
That's powerful. My God got bigger that day and I thank him every time I see him for telling me that because my god has that kind of power to forgive. And I also don't have the power to make a mistake that god can't turn into something magnificent. And I didn't say fix and I didn't mean fix. And, if you hear me tomorrow morning, I'll I'll be talking about the very worst thing I ever did from the podium.
I just started doing it a little while back. Back. And, there's a reason for it and it's because I got forgiven. And I wanna talk about how that happened for me so maybe somebody else can get it. The, the 4th step is actually an inventory of who I'm not.
I'm not looking to see who I am. I'm looking to see who I'm not. Because if that's who I was, it would've worked, and I'd still be out there doing it. But I'm ashamed of it and I'm upset about it. It must be who I'm not.
So what we're going to do in the 4th and the 5th steps is we're going to explore and find out who I'm not. And as I lay that down, who I am will emerge. And the frightening thing was for me was that I didn't know who that was. I had no idea. And I go back to the idea that God wasn't having a bad day and a long losing streak when he came up with me.
And just that peace of faith because I had no idea who I was. I had not the faintest notion who I was. My friend, Don p from Denver says, I'm like a magnet that's been dragged through the junkyard of life. And I've just collected all this junk that's all stuck on me. And as we do this step work, what we do is we very slowly turn the power off from that magnet and these things drop away.
And this beautiful perfect thing that god created me to be will emerge as this other junk falls away. And that's for me in large measure what this 4 step is about. It's the beginning of turning off the power so the junk can fall away. So I get the phone call from my, my protege, I think the book says, and he says, okay. I got my list.
I sat for 5 minutes. I can't think of anybody else. Alright. First thing you're going to do is you're going to start carrying a pencil and a piece of paper with you 20 hours a day from now on because you are going to think of some more. And when you think of them, you write them down.
Next time you get to your 4 step, just add them to the end of the thing. That's that's all there is to it. So now we'll take a look in the book and see if we can discover the next direction. So the last sentence we read was we listed people, institutions, or principles with whom we were angry. Here's the next sentence.
We asked ourselves why we are angry. And so we do that. And I take a look at the example on the facing page on page 65, if anybody has a book. It says, I'm resentful at mister Brown. The cause, his attention to my wife, he told my wife of my mistress, Brown may get my job at the office.
I said, that's great. Count those words. Count them? Yeah. Count them.
Under cause. You count those words next to mister Brown, you're gonna count 19. If you don't count 19, start from the back and work backwards because you're skipping the's and of's. Okay? Nineteen words.
This guy is messing with this old lady, has told her about his mistress and is after his job. Got 19 words. Nineteen words. Nineteen is the limit. It is not optimum.
It is maximum. We are not going to write books and books and books about what this guy did to you. That is not our purpose here. That's one of the reasons that we are working down the page. Now we have a list.
We start with the Or less would be better. And I said, I'll tell you, I'm not hard and fast. Or less would be better. And I said, I'll tell you, I'm not hard and fast on that. If you think you've got someone who's done more than that to you, call me and we'll negotiate whether you can have the 20th word.
I need to I need to tell you that I have yet to give it up. But I'm willing to talk about it because I don't think we need to set any of this in stone. See, this thing doesn't start out. You know, it was a dreary Wednesday afternoon. Okay?
I was fit. We're not gonna write books and books. I had a I had a a girl in another fellowship call me 1 Sunday afternoon just torn out of the frame. I mean, most of the fellowships. And she called me on and she said, I just don't know what to do.
I'm going crazy. I said, what happened? She says, well, boss and I had a fight fight on Friday afternoon. I've been forced stepping about him all weekend. What's she been doing?
Been writing all the stuff that he did. She's just soaking in this anger and it's just making her crazier and crazier. Nineteen words. Nineteen words. That's it.
Stop there. Mind says things like, left me for another guy. Left me for another guy. Left me for another guy. Next, the high school football coach didn't play me as much as I deserved.
They say, screwed me in a business deal. It's brief. Right? We're gonna work down the page again. Down the page.
It's simple. Nineteen words. When they've got that completed and we're still doing 3 30 minute periods a week until further notice. And say and say, we do vary that. I'm willing to negotiate it.
The next sentence says, in in most cases, we found it was our our self esteem, our pocketbooks, our ambitions, our personal relationships, including sex, were hurt or threatened. So we were sore. We were burned up. Now here's the direction. On our grudge list, we set opposite each name our injury.
Was it our self esteem, our security, our ambitions, our personal or sex relations which had been interfered with? That is a multiple choice test. Five possible answers. And just because when you look at 1, just because you say, okay. Yeah.
That's self esteem. You don't skip to the next one. Some of them are gonna get all 5. Some will get 2 or 3, and some you will not be able to figure out. That's why you have a sponsor.
Call your sponsor and ask them why. If this is your first one, I'll give you a clue. It's self esteem. Alright. Trust me.
It is. And then then we complete that. It it doesn't take that long. So that's the 3rd column. Now we're on the other side of the spiral now.
And now to the bottom of the page, this is page 65. It says, we went back through our lives nothing counted but thoroughness and honesty. When we were finished, we considered it carefully. That's a general description. They're gonna tell us very specifically how to consider it.
It says the first thing apparent was that this world and its people were often quite wrong. I asked him to stop right there. Is that apparent? It's a fair question. It said it was apparent to the people who wrote this book.
Is it apparent to you? Well, let's get a yes on that one. Yeah. We're going to refer to that a whole lot later. Much further down the page, I'm going to read some other things first.
To conclude that others were wrong was as far as most of us ever got. That true for you? It was for me. I'm skipping a little bit. It is plain that a life which includes deep resentment leads only to futility and unhappiness.
That was plain to them. Is it plain to you? I asked that for a question. To me, that's a direction and one of the most important ones. I'm a salesman by trade.
And one of the things I learned early was that you establish value before your name price. Because we were coming we are coming to a place where you're gonna ask you for something you are not going to want to do. I promise it. If you have not done this work, you are not gonna like some of what we're coming to. But it'll work for you, and it'll clean you out.
So we're establishing the value. I think it's important. Do you believe is it plain that a life which includes deep leads only to futility and unhappiness? That was my experience with it. To the precise extent that we permit these, do we squander the hours that might have been worthwhile?
Did you ever sit and just hate them? Them? Did you ever cost you any sleep? You should have been working. You could have filed your nails.
There was something you could have done besides sitting there and figuring out how to get sugar into his gas tank. It was something. But the alcoholic whose hope is the maintenance and growth of a spiritual experience, this business of resentment is infinitely grave. I think there's some power in there. Tell me what my hope is.
It says the maintenance and growth of a spiritual experience. That means I've got to maintain what I have. It means I can't lose any. And it also means that that's not enough. Maintenance and growth.
That means my 1998 program probably won't keep me sober in 99. I must continue to grow. That's what they're telling me. It says this business of resentment is infinitely grave. Infinitely grave?
My goodness gracious. There's powerful words. They're talking about destroyed on the page before. It says we found that it is fatal. I wanna tell you my experience with that.
I went to my sponsor a number of years later and I said, what was the difference between me and Bill? And I gave his last name. He said, what do you mean what was the difference? And I said, well, he and I were within a few weeks of the same sobriety date. We went to meetings at the very same place.
I saw him 5, 6 times a week in a meeting. We had the same home group. We both had you for a sponsor. And with a 2 year chip in his pocket, Bill drove home from a meeting 1 night and hit the garage door opener and pulled his car garage and hit the opener again and left it running and died. And he did not drink.
What was the difference? And Jerry said, I could not get him to do a 4 step. I could absolutely not move him off the dime. He would not do a 4 step, and he died of resentment. He was so angry and I thought about it.
And every time I had seen Bill for the last 2 years, he couldn't wait to run up to tell you what some SOB just done to him and it killed him literally dead. I stand by the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous. We have found that it is fatal. I have had that experience. I have seen it kill a man.
It's that critical. It is that serious. It says here, for when harboring such feelings, we shut ourselves off from the sunlight of the spirit. Harboring is kind of an interesting word. It doesn't say having.
I think it's okay if I have resentments as long as I'm not harboring them. And the difference is that when I harbor something, I give it safe harbor. I I I cuddle it. I, I nurture it. I give it a safe place.
So when I'm following these directions to get rid of a resentment see, I don't have the power to get rid of 1. I don't do results. It's not my job. God does results. I do means.
When I'm following these means, I'm perfectly safe with the resentment. I don't know if that makes any sense to you. It does to me. It says the insanity of alcohol returns and we drink again, and with us to drink is to die. Because if I've got something to eat in my soul, I have to do one of 2 things.
I've either got to drink or I've got to get it out of there. And we're coming to the directions on how to get it out of here. It says if we were to live, we had to be free of anger. The grouch and the brainstorm were not for us. Interesting, the word brainstorm.
Many of you have done what we call brainstorming where you sit around in a room and you spit out ideas. It's a whole lot of fun. The concept of brainstorming came out of the Walt Disney Organization at about the time this book was written. That's how they came up with Mickey Mouse cartoons. And if you can find an old dictionary and if you look up brainstorm, what you're going to find that it says oops.
I just don't want to quote it right because I looked one up. Brainstorm, violent transient fit of insanity. We know that as rage. If you think about it, there are 2 kinds of anger. There's the grouch or the slow burn and the brainstorm or the detonation, rage.
If you hold that in your mind and read this again, it makes a whole lot of sense. If we were to live, we had to be free of anger. The grouch and the brainstorm are not for us. I can't afford the price of either kind. It doesn't mean I don't get them.
It means when I get them, I gotta get them out of there as fast as possible. I'm not perfect. We turned back to the list where it held the key to the future. We were now that's a general direction. It's gonna tell us very specifically what to do with it.
It says we were prepared to look at it from an entirely different angle. Different from what? Different from the very first one that we looked at, which is the bottom of page 65. The first thing apparent was that this world and its people were often quite wrong. When I saw that, I assumed that what we're gonna do was look at where I was wrong, and that's not it.
Interestingly enough also, it says we were prepared to look at it from an entirely different angle. It doesn't say how they prepared. So if I'm sponsoring you, I tell you I don't care how you prepare, but I wanna know that you prepared when you get to this direction. You may wanna shake your hands out a little bit. Maybe go wash your face, walk around your chair a couple of times, say I'm preparing.
They didn't tell us how to prepare. They said they prepared. You're preparing. Right? We're gonna take it that literally.
And I am now prepared to look at it from an entirely different angle. Fine. Have a seat, and let's look for the next direction. K? There's no reason this shouldn't be fun.
K? Ask this lady right here. Oh, look at this. Is she having a good time? Does she?
That's my kinda girl. I love that. I married one of those. That's great. It says we began to see that the world and its people really dominated us one at a time.
I don't care if you got 400 resentments on that list. 1 at a time. Let's go back and take a look at how this how this dominated you. Did it dominate your thinking? Did it pull you into depression?
Did it dominate your time and you sat and and plotted their demise and hated them? Did you walk did you do things in your life to stay away from them? Or did you do things so you could be close to them, so you could hate them more? I used to sponsor a guy. We call him Big Ken.
Big Ken's gone to the big meeting, and I'm sure he'd be okay with him if I tell you this. But Big Ken said when he got sober, he hated everybody, and he wished there were more of them. Oh my goodness. Yeah. And so when you've completed that direction, you'll note that I said earlier that that a lot of these directions are not written.
Maybe I didn't say that. But a lot of the 4th step isn't writing. A lot of these observations, a lot of what we just covered isn't writing. It's observing. Let's observe.
Let's take the time and observe. These aren't just words on a page. These are things that they saw. Stop and see them. Because this is the beginning of the forgiveness process.
And I used to say, yeah, I forgive. Oh, boy. If you make a mistake in Bolivia, though, I'll be right there. I'll be all over you. I don't care where you go.
You can run. You cannot hide. I will get you one of these days, but I forgive you. See, I don't have the power to forgive. To me, forgiveness is a gift from god that I give to myself, and I found the directions here on how to do that because I can't afford the price of hating any of his kids because it blocks me from you, it blocks me from him.
And I can't very well practice the presence of God when I'm in a rage. I can't do it. So it says, in that state, the wrongdoing of others, fancied or real, you know, some of these resentments actually just happened inside my head. Had the power to actually kill. We covered that.
How could we escape? We saw that these resentments must be mastered, but how? Do you see that these resentments must be mastered? Tell me about it. Let's take a look at these observations that they make.
We could not wish them away any more than alcohol. This was our course. Maybe the most important direction in the book to me. I've seen more lives change right here, I think, than everywhere else. So we realized that the people who wronged us were perhaps spiritually sick.
My friend Don defines spiritually sick as shut off from God or cut off from God. I don't know which one he says. And the book has already said that these resentments shut me off from the sunlight of the spirit. And I like to tell a new guy as he's sitting there smarting from whatever this is people have done to him, want you to stop for a minute right now and think about the 2 or 3 very worst things you ever did. Think about it.
You had to have been spiritually sick to have done that. You absolutely had to have been spiritually sick to have done that. If you were walking in the presence of the almighty, could you have possibly done that? No way. No chance.
These people too were spiritually sick when they did those things. And that to me is the beginning of the forgiveness and it's huge because I have to have that in place. I I I've absolutely got to. The price is just too high if I don't. And I want them to go back one at a time through that list and grant these people spiritual sickness rather than what I call SOBism.
1 at a time, ask God to help you. Take your time. Go through the list. It's important to see these things. And I usually stop right there, by the way.
I stop at the first direction, I stop at the second one, and then I give the rest of what you just heard as as a block. And then we pick it up again at the top of the next page. Though we did not like their symptoms and the way these disturbed us, they like ourselves are sick too. There's a tough sentence. Let's make that into little pieces to see what it says.
Though we did not like their symptoms. Well, the symptom is what they did to us that left us with a resentment. And the way these disturbed us, my my resentment is is what my disturbance is. They, like ourselves, were sick too. That must be important.
We've said it 2 sentences in a row. I have got to grant these people spiritual sickness. If they were walking in the master's presence, they couldn't have done it. They've got to be spiritually sick. We ask God to help us show them the same tolerance, pity, and patience we would cheerfully grant a sick friend.
We ask God, that sounds like a prayer. I believe it is. And so we have a series of lists and observations. And now here's a prayer. When a person offended, we said to ourselves, which is a silent prayer, this is a sick man, how can I be helpful to him?
God, save me from being angry. Thy will be done. There's another prayer, lists, observations, and prayers. I think we're gonna stop right here. We've got about an hour left.
I would like to ask that we take about a 10 minute break. And those of you who can tough it out, come on back. We will start again. I've got 5:10. We'll start at 5:20 on my watch on the hack.
And, and thanks for listening so far. We'll take a break right here.