Paul F. from Pheonix, AZ leading a Big Book Workshop taking people through the 12 steps as done in the 1940s at Solutions Halfway House in Pheonix, AZ

please help me open
today's session with a moment of silent meditation and please allow me to offer a prayer
after I finish that prayer I'll be concluding it with the serenity prayer at which time feel free to join me
god thank you for allowing us to come together and pray in this way
thank you for providing us a place that we can come together
we would like to thank you god for those beautiful twelve steps
and thank you for allowing each and everyone of us for being sober during this day
we humbly ask for your guidance care wisdom direction love as we walk through the steps today and god please set aside everything that we think we know about ourselves the book sobriety the steps in you guys thank god please help each and every one of us to have an open mind today so that we may have a new experience
discover the truth
god
transmitters today to accept the things I cannot change the courage to change the things I can and with enough difference and I'm Paul Fisher and alcoholic
and I'd like to welcome everyone to the fourth session of the big book workshop
where we are taking the twelve steps as outlined in the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous so that we may experience freedom from our alcoholism
today we're going to be covering steps ten eleven and twelve
let's turn to page fifty nine
step ten continue to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it
okay let's move to a page eighty four where step ten begins we're gonna go to page eighty four paragraph two
this page eighty four paragraph two
where the authors say this thought brings us a step can
which suggests we continued to take personal inventory and continue
the set right any new mistakes as we go along
we vigorously commences way living as we cleaned up the past we have entered the world of the spirit
so if I'm actively making my men's this is what I will experience I will
have entered the world of the spirit
our next function is a growing understanding and effectiveness this is not an overnight matter it should continue for our lifetime continue to watch for selfishness dishonesty resentment and fear we need to crop up we ask god that wants to remove them we discuss them with someone immediately and make amends quickly if we have harmed anyone then we resolutely turn our thoughts to someone we can help Levin tolerance of others are called
what I find beautiful about about this paragraph is that the authors give me specific instructions on how to do a daily tends to
if you look back at the beginning of this paragraph it says we continue take persons or inventory and continued to sit right in the new mistakes as we go along no mention of
at the end of the day when I retire but as I go along in other words
a tense at the something I'm going to practice during the day
can the authors give us specific instructions here
they show us how to how to carry out for spiritual practices
the first one
his watch
if you go down to
good on eight lines in that paragraph it says continue to watch for selfishness dishonesty resentment and fear
here we've been to the mall and people watch go to the parking you people watch you don't interact with those people you simply observe that's what watching means
if you want to have a new experience try practicing watching for a mere thirty days
simply watch you that doesn't mean I analyze what I do I'm just simply observing so I'm watching for for things and then the authors instruct me what to do when this occurs is when these crop up
we ask that's a prayer we ask god it wants to remove them so if they crop up at once I'm going to ask god to remove them
immediately following this as we discuss them with someone immediately make amends weekly view if we have harmed anyone that means only discuss it with somebody that day before I go to bed
it also says and make amends quickly if we have harmed anyone
so you see I have a spot check that image or I can do during the day where I can make amends immediately
then goes on to say then we resolutely turned our thoughts to someone we can help so is not beautiful we have four we have four spiritual practices we can do during the day
watch ask discuss intern
now what we have in the next paragraph or call the tents that promises
now this is providing that I've done everything up to this point
meeting I've had a first step experience
I found a power greater than me I made a decision to give my life to that god I didn't inventory shared with another person took the exact nature of my wrongs to god in six and seven compiled my harmless from my inventory began making maintenance and begin practicing the tense up during the day check out the magnitude of these guarantees as we read on
and we have ceased fighting anything or anyone even alcohol while
would you like to be able to stop fighting anything or anyone is that sound cool or what
four by this time sandy will have returned I am guaranteed to experience what the author's experience that has been my personal experience I've also had the experience of not experiencing these promises when I don't do the work we will seldom be interested liquor if tempted we recoil from it as from high flying we react saline normally wow
reacts mainly normally there so foreign to me
and when we will find that this is happened check this out and we will find it doesn't happen automatically
it doesn't say that I'm making it happen we will see that are new attitude
there's that word again new
new added not attitude but new attitude that means different than it was before
where liquor has been given us without any thought or effort on our part in other words I'm not making it happen on simply doing is I'm just simply doing the footwork
it just comes that is the miracle of it we're not fighting it neither are we avoiding temptation we feel as though we have been placed in a position of neutrality safe and protected
am I in a position of neutrality do I feel safe and protected
we have not even sworn off instead the problem has been removed it does not exist for us
where neither cocky nor are we afraid that as our experience
then they going to tell us that is how we react so long as we keep that spiritual condition
they're giving us a little checklist it has been my experience personally as well as observing people I've worked with through the years in these rooms that there's fundamentally only one reason why I will drink again
that's because I'm not a fits virtual condition if I am in this spiritual condition it is impossible for me to drink my god will not let it happen ask yourself how my gonna love this virtual condition they just got through telling us this is how we react so I have a little checklist let's see if I'm if this proves a condition I go back and start reading the beginning the paragraph have I see finding anything or anyone my get in arguments with people all the time get into debates getting on a crusade gotta convince you this is the way you got to do the program
this is for this time sandy will leverage has any return
are you still interested in liquor in attempted have you been able to recall from is from hot flame are you reacting saying they normally
this is we're not fighting it we feel as though their place and position
of neutrality saving protected now if I am truly spiritually fit and if I am truly in a position of neutrality safe and protected you know what that means
it means you cannot harm me
if I'm in a position to draw he said how are you going to hurt me what you gonna do steal my truck go ahead take it god is good and give me another one
you want my money follow me follow me outside of the meeting you know where it's starting to go out to my truck and pulled out a knife or a gun and see how much your money that's okay here thank you
what is unsafe rejected god's gonna give me more
I can go anywhere I've been to places of people told me not to go
let's take it to the extreme let's say you get really reserve let mean you decide you want to kill me
bring it on
I'm just going to a better place
that's what being said rejected means it means a longer living in fear
that doesn't mean I don't experience fear I'm not driven by fear anymore because I I've become clear as a result of following the recipe in this book that I'm a spiritual being with a human condition
which means I'm going to have human reactions I'm going to experience sadness grief anger disappointment
so on so forth but that's that's that's natural normal for me
next paragraph it's easy lit up on the spiritual program of action rest on our laurels here the authors are emphasizing that this is about action we're headed for trouble if we do for alcohol so awful we're not cured of alcoholism what we really have is a daily reprieve contention on the maintenance of our spiritual condition every day is a day when we must carry the vision of god's will and to all of our activities how can I best serve the I will not mind be done these are thoughts which must go with this constantly we can exercise our will power along this line all we wish it is a proper use the wheel here the authors are are are clearly explaining to me to conform I will with god's is the proper use of the will
check it out we can exercise our will power
along this line all we wish
what line
I will be done online so to conform my will with his it says it is the proper use the will I'm supposed to use my will
provided I am spiritually fit provided that I'm having a spiritual experience provided that I've done the the previous ten steps so I'm supposed to use my will we're not a bunch of common times
we're supposed to use my brain god gave me brains for a reason
okay I stepped him back there on page eighty four in the second paragraph forces that we suggested we continue take personal internet continue to sit writing any new mistakes as we go along
those of you that are willing to practice a daily tensed up
why don't you go ahead and recite that out loud with me
starting with the second line in the second paragraph on page eighty four so paragraph to second line
page eighty four
read
we we continue to take personal inventory and continued to set right any new mistakes as we go along graduations
all right with completed step can
so let's flip back to page fifty nine so we we can read
step eleven
sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with god as we understood him praying only for knowledge of his will for us the power to carry that out okay backyard PGT five paragraph two page eighty five
paragraph two so as much as already been said about receiving strength inspiration and direction from him who has all knowledge of power notice the other does say that he has a lot of knowledge and power it
is this we have all knowledge of power now
if I have a resource available to me that has all knowledge and power what would be the best place to go for directions
that source exactly you know I find really ironic in these rooms and I have had this experience so many times the very thing that has caused me more difficulty in pain and suffering it's been my own head you know what's really interesting about that I get a problem you know the first I go place I go for a solution is my head
now is is that insane or what
the thing that causing more suffering in pain humiliation when I came into these rooms the old ideas beliefs and attitudes and perceptions that simply did not work that is the first place I go for a solution when I have a problem
so if I'm truly self delusional
we read that didn't we
back in the second the third step that we are driven by a hundred forms if you're self delusion self pity self seeking correct so if I'm truly driven by self delusion how my gonna know if I'm self deluded I'm not gonna know
it's like going to a physician asking it what is water
officials say well you know it's it's everywhere
think of all the way to that statement if I'm self delusion how my gonna no one's self deluded I'm not going to know
that's why it's absolutely essential this alcoholic maintains strict disciplines of ten eleven twelve can I rely on my interpretation my perception of my own experience maybe I need other people maybe I need access to a god of my understanding so that I can seek this knowledge and power
okay then the other is going to say if we have it whoa there's that word again if we have carefully doesn't safely follow directions if we have carefully
follow directions
we have begun to since the flow of his spirit into us
what a promise to some extent we have become god conscious we have begun to develop this vital sixth sense but we must go further and that means more action now how many of you have gone to meetings and you hurt somebody speaking they pick the topic I'd like to hear your experience with your sixth sense
it's right there in the book I mean the others are telling us we have begun to develop this vital you know what vital means
east central for a life
so am I going to be able to live answer I'm not talking about not drinking I'm going about living here I'm talking about being free
being free from my own mind my own fears inadequacy self doubt cetera etcetera etcetera
this vital six cents so this expense is absolutely essential for my wife and sobriety
I'm encouraging all of you that are experiencing as well success if you take that back to your meetings and start talking about it start sharing with people your own experience
with your vital six cents
but we must go further and that means more action
my twenty years of sobriety is not going to keep me spiritually fit
now the truth is
I don't want to do these disciplines
I would love to be able to stay at home with my twenty years of sobriety in fluvial what's McAuliffe from channel to channel and drink my sprite in the spiritually yeah I would love to be able to do that but that's not what my experience shows me
am I willing to do the disciplines yes
why do I do them a couple of reasons not because I'm a truth seeker
no truth seekers an Alcoholics Anonymous
where comfort seekers that's why I maintain the disciplines because I enjoy the comfort and peace of mind the serenity
the freedom to reprieve from alcohol
being in a position of neutrality safe and protected that's why do the disciplines on a regular basis not because I want to do them it's because I enjoy feeling comfort and that's what these disciplines do for me let's read on
several levels suggest premeditation we shouldn't be shy on this matter prayer better men than we are using it constantly it works if we have the proper attitude and work at it
that is what is most important about premeditation is I have the proper attitude and I'm willing to work at it it would be easy to be vague about this matter yet we believe we can make some definitely valuable suggestions here is where the author is very clearly describe the evening review and they give us a hand
now remember we are it's the political act
in the book right and this is the very next paragraph when we retire at night
that's a close
yeah
so if I'm going to retire at night
and these are the questions I would ask myself in my evening review
when asking for questions that I ask myself as I go through the day as I go along and step ten we're we resentful selfish dishonest or freight there's a question mark that means it's a stop sign in the stop and answer those questions
do we owe an apology there's another question mark
have we get something to ourselves which should be discussed with another personal lines another question mark
where we kind and loving toward all another question mark
what could we have done better another question mark
were we thinking ourselves most of the time or were we thinking of what we could do for others what we could pack into the stream of life that does not mean do as much as you possibly can and complete as many tasks as possible that has not been my understanding of pack as much as I can as a stream of life what I'm hearing from that is where was a helpful
who did I help
but we must be careful not to drift into worry remorse or morbid reflection here's the warning you know we're not there to beat ourselves up simply do
a constructor review of my day
for that would diminish our usefulness to others so easy I'm not use with other people and you simply sit there beat myself up I'm simply reviewing my day for these questions
okay here the instructions
after I do my review the authors are asking me to do two things in the next sentence after making a review we ask that sounds like a prayer doesn't
we ask god's forgiveness
in other words you know
yeah I was thinking mostly myself today got please forgive me for doing so
no was a kind and loving towards all please forgive me
and then and then there's that word and and which means in addition to that means only do something in addition to prayer
inquire
what corrective measures should be taken
so far medical inquire what corrective measures should be taken that implies I'm going to listen
in other words after I do my evening review I'm going to pray and meditate
we talked about that last week how sensual it is for me to meditate in addition to pray you see if all I'm doing is praying I'm not completing step eleven in its entirety
notice the wording is that the level
sought through dozens they sought through prayer to prove my conscious contact so see if all I'm doing is bringing in meditating am I going to improve my relationship with god
am I going to receive the knowledge of his will the power to carry it out
my experience has been no
if my friends got here calls me up and invites me to his house for a party and I hang up the phone before I receive directions I'm not gonna know which way to go to get there
that's what prayer without meditation is light
I've created a lot of on manageability in my life and sobriety result if not meditating or something but rather prank
I had made decisions based on self which later placed me in a position to be hurt that's how essential it is for me to practice daily meditation so is this beautiful they're giving us a specific outline of how to do evening review and they're giving instructions to pray and meditate when I finish my evening review
next paragraph
they show us how to do morning meditation
they give us a clue when to do it the first two words on awakening
on awakening let us think about the twenty four hours ahead we consider our plans for the day before we begin we say prayers as we ask there's a prayer we ask god to direct our thinking is specially asking that it be divorced from self pity dishonest or self seeking motives under these conditions we can't employ our mental faculties here the authors are implying we are supposed to use our brains
the employer mental faculties with assurance for after Aug god gave us brains to use
our thought life will be placed in a much higher plane when our thinking is clear to run lotus
after step nine you may notice that the authors have made a shift
four thirty nine is about conduct it's about where I was wrong war of because hardware I've been selfish where I've been self seeking where I've been dishonest it's better it's better now the authors have moved into the fox life
after all the sale page twenty three that the main problem the alcoholic centers in his mind rather than his body is that correct
so what what what what needs more attention my mind
is the main problem so here the authors in mischief now they're shifting into let's concentrate on our thought life
our thought life would be placing a much higher plane women are thinking is cleared of wrong modus this helps me to address the self delusion
in thinking about our date we may face indecision we may not be able to determine which course to take here we asked there's another prayer god for inspiration and intuitive fought reposition we relax and take it easy we don't struggle we're often surprised how the right answers come after we have tried this for a while notice that the authors are not instructed me to ask god to keep me sober
if I truly believe if I truly conceded to minor myself that I have no power over alcohol
and there's absolutely nothing I can do to keep me sober and I'm sober
and I've come to believe in the power grid myself and they decision to give my life to that what's keeping me sober
is it me
is it that relationship
is it work maybe it's your income
that has not been my experience so if I've applied those principles if I follow that recipe in this book up to this point
and god is keeping me sober why do I need to go to him asking to keep me sober
consider this one moment my wife is in the kitchen and she's washing dishes and I go and I say Jan would you wash the dishes please
she's likely to frown on me I'm certain she will frown
the
she's gonna give me the look like I'm already doing it why are you asking me to do something I'm already doing
you see I became I fell victim to that for a long time and the time is now in all these rooms yes I ask god keep me sober every day to my knowledge this book doesn't say anything about not drinking one day at a time to say that I am not going to drink one day at a time implies that I still had some reservations that has been my experience with real I I hear that from relapses a lot yeah I'm asking god gives over data time every morning asking give me so
what is are you doing they're instructing me to follow directions a plan of action to direct my thinking
let's go ahead and check that out let's see what the books have say about it
okay
go turn to page thirty three
page thirty three paragraph online nine
H. thirty three paragraph one line nine
if we are planning to stop drinking there must be no reservation of any kind nor any lurking notion that some day we will be immune to alcohol
no reservation
how much of a head here just to illustrate a point
here we go page nine
graph three
age nine eight paragraph three
line six that's line six then let his family or friend ask him if he wants to quit for good
and if he would go to any extreme to Giselle you see what happened to me in that period of time that I was bouncing in and out of these rooms it couldn't stay sober was that I was not willing
to quit for good
I was not willing to go to god and ask him to remove it for good
now to say that I'm willing to give it up for good does not imply that I have power to keep me sober what that does imply is I'm willing to go to any length
distaste over that means I'm going to resort to any spiritual principle I possibly can in order to not drink
because I don't have the power to get me sober
so that means I need to call on the power from the god of my understanding
if you're having resistance to this I simply ask you to consider if you have had that experience
without exception every time I go to a meeting go to around the convention and I hear speak or say something that I have resistance to most of the time it is because I have not experienced it
when I heard people say things like they felt safe and protected
they were position of neutrality did they stop fighting everybody and everything I had resistance to that you know why because I never had the experience
how many people you can tell me about bungee jumping
I have experience with bungee jumping
so what can you tell me about the bungee jumping
nothing
you have nothing to offer me the virgin because you have no experience with it you can share a lot of opinions a lot of ideas a lot of perceptions but do you have any experience with it
I have some personal experience with that I know what it's like
I wouldn't do it again
one that was enough for me but it was a pleasant experience I'm not gonna go into that right now but the point I'm trying to make
you know in early sobriety I felt it necessary to ask god to help me stay sober because I had not had a spiritual awakening yet
I had not dialed into god's power see that's why steps the social that we be taken through the steps as quickly as possible see I am the real are hard to talk about page twenty one given sufficient reason isn't going to keep me sober
I need to get to the power and I need to get to it now
now
it has been my experience you cannot take anybody through the steps to move quickly however you can't take them through to slowly maybe that has something to do with the decreased success rate within the rooms of our meetings
my god how did these guys have a seventy five to ninety three percent success rate most of the Cleveland Akron area what were they doing that we're not doing
give this some serious thought for a moment
medicine has made major advancements since nineteen thirty nine nineteen forty four
there are treatment centers they didn't have treatment centers and they have drying out hospitals with a detox people
psychology has made a lot of advancement since then and yet the success rate is lower today than it was then and they have fewer resources but the resources that were available to the alcoholics in nineteen forty four are the same resources that are available to us today
and it's called the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous
it's called the spiritual principles that are contained within the first Hundred three pages giving me instructions on how to do that the twelve steps
before we get into a
the promises
which is at the top of page eighty seven the promises of up
premeditation
I'll share with you what what I personally do
I don't ask god to keep me sober he's already doing it
keep in mind I have to keep I have to do my part
so basically what I do is this I follow the instructions on this page
the first thing to do is I ask god to direct my thinking especially the the divorce and self pity dishonest or selfie king motors
the S. and other per
ask for inspiration to the thought or decision today
to ask god to help me relax take it easy and not struggle
and that's when I moved into my meditation for listening
and that's when I asked what would you have me be today
today then that the guidance I receive is rather simple I typically receive guidance like enjoy yourself today
be kind and patient with other people
listen
if you will practice this prayer and meditation I can guarantee you your life will change in a relatively short period of time
try not to misunderstand me I'm not saying that sobriety is solely contingent on prayer and meditation I need to practice all the principles not just those but those have been very instrumental in my life
and as I stated last week there's no right way to meditate there's no wrong way what you need to do is find a way that works for you
let's look at the promises this is what used to be the hunter the occasional inspiration
here they are instructing us to be patient gradually
becomes a working part of the mind once again notice the authors are putting emphasis on the fault lies
being still in experience and having just make conscious contact with god it is not possible that we are going to be inspired all times so I'm not as worried all times I tell myself I was not working
remember what we read at the beginning of this it works if we have the proper attitude and work at it
we might pay for this resumption all sorts of absurd actions and ideas nevertheless
here's the thought life again we find that our thinking will as time passes the more and more on the plain of inspiration we come to rely upon it
isn't that beautiful my thinking is going to change they're telling me be patient
I'm not going to be inspired all times
now I'm gonna finish premeditation then we're going to take more action
in the next paragraph
we usually conclude the period of meditation with a prayer so I'm gonna pray meditate pray in the morning
that will be shown all through the day what our next step is to be that we be given whatever we need to take care of such problems we ask here's a prayer we ask is specially for freedom from self will and we're careful to make no request for cells only
we may ask ourselves however if others will be helped
we are careful never to pray if for our own selfish ends many of us have wasted a lot of time doing that and it doesn't work you can easily see why
that's one of things all of us that still up ten eleven they guarantee that I'm going to make mistakes
that's why I need those bookends is not beautiful I got to be too beautiful bookends I have a book in in the morning when we do prayer meditation prayer only do a daily can step through the day as I go along and then not only do evening revealing overdue premeditation of when I finish
this is been my experience I will only experience one of two things within the rooms of a
I'm either getting better or getting worse there is no in between
No one to my knowledge has ever coasted up hill
it's real easy to spot people who are doing these disciplines
they don't take themselves so seriously they seem to enjoy life much more fully they laugh more they make fun of themselves
you know why it's important for us to and to not take ourselves seriously
because we are the joke
we are is we are the joke that's why I can't take myself seriously
another reason is you're not going to
it
during the week I asked you to consider doing the written meditation exercise where you write down the guidance that you receive during meditation and then test it against the four absolutes
I'm asking for any volunteers anybody who would be willing to share the guidance that they received this week I understand that this is a personal matter in two way communication with the god of your understanding I'm hoping those of you that did do it would be willing to come forward and share with us the guidance you receive from god in order to show yourself and other people that guidance does come during medication
do you have any volunteers come on up
my name is Joseph nama alcohol Connecticut
very grateful to be alive today and the most major
and profound contact my higher power this past week I've been a sober member of a a for a little over seven months now my father's coming out to visit may from New York and I am in his mother him and his wife asked me to go up to Las Vegas for the weekend with a bunch of my uncles and so forth and I
well in this meditation this morning it just came to me out of nowhere
that I wasn't ready to go to Arizona I mean I go to Las Vegas and I
so I went right to the for the absolutes then I had to think about my son who has been asking me you know twice a week one of my coming home to see him so I had to say to myself you know if I go to Las Vegas I love to gamble and I love women and I want to spend a lot of money that I don't really have and I'd really like to go see my son so I was my own selfish thing from god and I had to be honest with my father and his girlfriend also that you know maybe it wasn't the right time for me to go there well this choice bring me happiness or will bring others around me happiness and I said yes this is going to bring me happiness and it's going to bring others around me happiness by me not going there and I got a lot of comfort out of this decision and that's the most important thing I think because you know I've I was delusional very those off realize and I'm just really grateful to be here and thank you for listening
that's wonderful anyone else
one of the client doesn't make my name's Monika I'm an alcoholic
but I mean not an investment manager for twenty years managing money that I define myself as a portfolio manager
a good wife
a good mother and an athlete and right now I'm none of those some lost
so when I meditate I I started
swirling around in thinking negative that what happened to me you know what what where am I
I took me a long time I mean it it took the
you know about the fifth or sixth day nine I decided to do a little bit each day
two or three times a day rather than try to meditate you know for thirty minutes because that is consistent with a long time
meditating it finally came to me that maybe
maybe after twenty years of doing what I'm doing
maybe I'm not supposed to do that anymore
maybe there's something more important for me to do
and
and I think it's step twelve I mean I I really I really think it is
now just just searching but I know that I actually look forward to
the two or three times during the day this is a quiet quiet my mind and I really look forward to it and try to get a cranky if I
you know can't
because it's the only time I allow myself to lay down on the bed and don't worry about anything you know don't worry about my daughter don't worry about the money this is another issue
on my I have I mean you have to file bankruptcy the bills I can't seem to sit and do my own bills I mean you know I'm a financial manager twenty years and I'm I'm a financial rep
and then there's the the the meditation helps you listen and an interesting thing because I'm so numbers oriented an interesting thing came to me in one of those times you called
in between the racing times I can't remember what you call it that
an image of a very creative bracelet
that I will
make
for my daughter
and her name is Morgan
and so since we're both Ms the animals are going to be you know connected and you know I've never been crayons I'm not I have a creative bone really my body art I can't do but this will create a sign came to me and I I thought that was interesting because I saw something in me that I
in the last twenty years I didn't think existed actions I'm learning and I'm trying my best to work the steps
so thanks
I like to think those of you willing to share with us the guidance that you receive from god
step twelve
having had a spiritual awakening is also the steps we tried to carry this messes alcoholics and practice these principles and all our fears the first part implies having had a spiritual awakening as the result doesn't say a result this is V. result of these steps
the second part is we try to hear this message to alcoholics
the third part is to practice these principles in all our affairs you see what I've discovered is that the real work is step twelve
you see what it says do as they prepare me to do the real work and that's what we're gonna talk about today there's an end there's a chapter
chapter seven beginning on page eighty nine which is entirely devoted to working with others
numerous times through the years I've heard people say
you know I really wish we had some literature and sponsorship we have a whole chapter on sponsorship it's called working with others what I love about this chapter is that the authors give me specific
clear cut directions what to say what not to say
what to do what not to do when to do it when not to do it
if you haven't read this chapter we strongly encourage you to do so
we're going to cover some of the highlights of this let's start with page eighty nine paragraph one
page eighty nine paragraph one
practical experience shows that nothing will so much insurer immunity from drinking as intensive work with other alcoholics so maybe it's essential that I work with other people
page nineteen paragraph one
page nineteen paragraph one
when you discover a prospect for Alcoholics Anonymous find out all you can about him
in other words let him talk let her talk find out who it is you're dealing with
what this does for me is give me some perspective which direction to take if he does not want to stop drinking don't waste time trying to persuade him it's a waste of time to work with someone who doesn't who's not willing to work with you
because when I do that I'm depriving another alcoholic and I am depriving me
okay paragraph two page nine
if there is any indication anyone to stop having to talk with the person most interested in him usually his wife get an idea of his behavior his problems background the seriousness of his condition and his religious leanings you need this information to put yourself in this place you see how you would like him to approach you if the tables were turned once again we want to get as much information as we can about the person next paragraph six lines now
then let his family or friend asking if he wants to quit for good and if you would go to any extreme to do so how many people here want to quit for good are you willing to go to any extreme to do so
page ninety one paragraph three
age ninety one paragraph three see your man alone if possible at first engage in general conversation after a while during the talk is in phase of drinking tell him about your drinking habits symptoms and experiences to encourage him to speak of himself if he's good for encouraging him to speak that means we're going to listen we're not gonna sit down and preach to the person John this is what you need to do
if he wishes to talk let him do so you with us get a better idea of how you ought to proceed if he is not communicative give him a sketch of your drinking career up to the time you quit
this is very important but say nothing for the moment of how that was accomplished if he is in a serious mood well on the troubles liquor has because you being careful not to moralizing lecture
if this mode is like telling human stories of your escapades get him to tell some of his
when he sees you know all about the drinking game commenced to describe yourself as an alcoholic telling how baffled you were how you finally learned that you were sick give him an account of the struggle you made to stop show him the mental twist which leads to the first drink of a spree we suggest you do this as we have done in the chapter on alcoholism if he is alcoholic he will understand you it once he will match your mental inconsistencies with some of his own
if you're satisfied that he is he is a real alcoholic begin to dwell on the hopeless feature of the melody
show him from your own experience that's what we stick to our own experience
how the queer mental conditions surrounding that first drink prevents normal functioning of the will power don't at this stage referred to this book
unless he has seen it wishes to discuss it and be careful not to brand him as an alcoholic let him draw his own conclusions
so when I work with new guys I go into it not assuming that their alcoholic what I do is I go into it giving them the dignity
a finding the truth about their experience
next paragraph page ninety two which is paragraph to continue to speak of alcoholism is an illness a fatal Melanie talk about the conditions of body and mind which accompany it keep his attention focused mainly on your personal experience
that's why I'm there to share my experience not my opinions not my ideas without what church you should go to who should be married to or not be married to what job you should have that's that's none of my business
base ninety three third line from the top
now notice before you read this at this point basically all we've done is listen I'm swapping experiences with him I'm sharing some of my and my mental inconsistencies the mental obsession some of the things that occurred to me when I was drinking and then they tell us this third line phone top of page ninety three tell me exactly what happened you stress the spiritual feature free agency at this point I'm not gonna mention
if the man the agnostic or atheist make it in fact that he does not have to agree with your conception of god he can choose any conception alliance provided it makes sense to him to see his understanding god doesn't have to make sense to me what's most important is that it makes sense to him
the main thing is eighty one to leave a power greater than himself and that he lived by spiritual principles
okay turn to page ninety five paragraph two page ninety five paragraph to
if he's not interested in your solution if you expect you to act only as a banker for his financial difficulties or a nurse for his freeze you may have to drop him until he changes his mind
I'm not a banker I'm not a hotel on there to share my experience strength and hope with him
phase ninety six paragraph one
page ninety six paragraph one do not be discouraged if your prospect does not respond at once search out another article I can try again
you are sure to find someone desperate enough to accept with eagerness what you offer we find it a waste of time to keep chasing a man who cannot or will not work with you
if you leave such a personal loan he may soon become convinced that he cannot recover by himself to spend too much time on anyone situation is to deny some other alcoholic an opportunity to live and be happy
so like bill Wilson first of all guys he worked with in space over
he was disappointed I went back to his wife Lois and said you know I've been talking to Johnson over stance over she said well you are
for
so you see when I work with others it does not matter whether they stay sober it does not matter if they follow through it does not matter if they call if they don't want if they're not willing to work with me I find another person notice also it doesn't say anywhere in this book to my knowledge that I go to meetings and I kick back and I wait for the newcomer to come to me
where would this program be if they're Wilson Dr Bob did that to this day I don't say you don't know the phone hasn't rang they sought them out have you ever noticed newcomers in meetings raising their hands and St hi my name's John I'm all calling in I need a sponsor I need to work with somebody in what I do when asked for other any other aid announcements or raise my hand in my hand hi I'm Paul now calling and I need to work with money taken through the steps of there's anyone here that need to be taken for this S. policing after the meeting
I have a responsibility to be available to the newcomer that means I'm not gonna wait for them to come to me I'm simply sharing with you what I was taught to do by my first sponsor
so when I'm in a meeting there maybe ten people there that want to hug from that I'm that I'm close to but if they're newcomers there and they stand up
I would ask them do you have a sponsor if they say no I don't ask them if they want one
that's I'm telling that's what my book says I don't know if they were sponsored I signed myself
they say well you've got one now on your sponsor
what if I don't want you to be my sponsor well then go get another one
but the point is I'm taking responsibility for carrying the message of hope to the alcoholic Hey let's go grab some coffee you open to doing that then we sit down and I do is as outlined in this book sit down and get more information from the person find out who it is I'm dealing with see I don't know about the rest of you I want to stay sober I want to be free I cannot be free
by not working with others my twenty years of sobriety will not keep me sober sobriety does not keep me sober
that's that's simply a gift that gift isn't going to keep me sober remember other real alcoholic I can't survive on the food I received yesterday I need a new spiritual food today
I can't rely on what I did yesterday to maintain what I'm experiencing today here's something to consider
what what happened A. eight if everybody in agents of writing the way you're doing it today
what what happened A. A. if everybody in a a was doing sobriety the way you're doing it today
I have a responsibility when I go to meetings today to carry a message of hope what that means is this
I am not there to talk about my problems
that's what sponsors are for that's what coffee before the meeting coffee after the meeting is for stop and think about it you go to a meeting you dont you whine you complain you got some new person in there do you think that person wants to come back
the point I'm trying to make is this those of us that have gone through the steps and have had a spiritual awakening we have a responsibility to Kerry hope to the meetings
so on that nuclear comes in here's how he what he or she wants to return to that meet I'm coming back to this meeting I heard about a whole
phase ninety seven
F. one line to page ninety seven paragraph one line to helping others is the foundation stone of your recovery a kindly act once in awhile isn't enough you have to act the good Samaritan every day if need be it may mean the loss of many nights sleep great interference with your pleasures interruptions to your business
so ask yourself do I have a foundation stone in my working with others my helping other people
page ninety eight paragraph one line eight
age ninety eight paragraph one line eight
some of us have taken very hard knocks to learn this truth job or no job wife and no job we simply do not stop drinking so long as we place dependence upon other people and had a dependence on god my sobriety is not contingent on my sponsor
study tended on him it's important that I have one it's important to maintain contact with them
bring the idea to the consciousness of every man that he can get well regardless of anyone the only condition is that you trust in god and clean house
last line on page ninety nine
last line on page ninety nine remind the prospect that his recovery is not dependent upon people it is dependent upon his relationship with god notice it does not say that it is dependent on god is dependent upon his relationship now
this is work prayer meditation comes back in
if I'm going to have a relationship with someone that is Sims and I wanna spend time with them is that correct
so if I'm going to have a relationship with my friend Michael here that means I need to spend time with it I need to talk to him and I need to listen
a relationship isn't where I'm doing all the talking that's not a relationship
relationship involves talking and listening
paragraph one page one hundred
both you and the new man must walk day by day in the path of spiritual progress if you persist remarkable things will happen if I persist remarkable
when we look back we realized the things which came to us when we put ourselves in god's hands we're better than anything we could have planned follow the dictates of a higher power you will presently live in a new and wonderful world no matter what your present circumstances
H. one O. two page one of two paragraph to
your job now is to be the place where you may be of maximum helpfulness to others so never hesitate to go anywhere if you can be helpful so if I'm doing the work which is working with others I'm carrying the message not the mass not my opinions about my ideas what I've learned as a result of going through these steps on a repeated basis and continue to work with others that want to sponsor someone I have only three responsibilities only three
take them through the twelve steps tell them the truth and love them
to love them simply means let them be right where they are it's important for me to let the guys I sponsored to let them struggle I'm not there to repair their struggles which reminds me of a story of a little boy who goes out to the woods
he sees a butterfly in a cocoon struggling to get out he decides to help the butterfly
so he pulls out his pocket knife any any opens up the concurrence of the butterfly can get all the way out butterfly is able to get all the way out of the cocoon and then he falls to the ground and dies
little boy runs home and asks father uses Daddy Daddy and try to help this butterfly and he died what happened the father says well son you know the butterfly needed to struggle so it could develop the strength so it could fly
I have no desire to get in the middle of someone's experience I take a person through the steps it's not my job to continue to go back and hound them to remind them are you doing those demands
that's not my job
this is what my sponsor did for me he sat me down basically he did what else outlined in this book and you get a good idea of what I would you know what my drinking enforced by using this was like at the time and and he asked me a couple of simple questions
he wanted to go to any length to have spiritual experience
Cydia
he said are you willing to do everything I ask U. do with no debate
who
this is what you're going to consider that
my judgment about your life is infinitely better than yours
after all I didn't I was in and out of a for twelve years
yeah we understand either around his room for a long time
that was the problem had been around
I have not been in it
and you could always you could always spot me in a meeting
you could tell it was a relapse and you could tell that I was operating itself will cause I would say things like yeah I put together X. amounts right
that was a problem I put it together
I said yeah but I've been around these rooms for a long time he's been a winner he said you have absolutely nothing we want
you have absolutely nothing to offer us is what we have to offer us
do you have experience living spiritually alive
well you know I know something about spiritual living you don't and it says it and I said yes the way that you have any experience
no
he's okay what's that would you go to meetings I want you to shut up and don't talk because you have nothing to offer until you go through all twelve sets and you have a spiritual awakening then you will have something to offer he's by the way he's all that drinking you did you know and put those needles in your arms and and carrying those weapons and all that is it if we need any help in that area it will call on you
in the meantime just go to meetings and listen okay it was tough because you know I had some great ideas and you people need to hear about
and I have a lot of ideas but the point is in the twelve years of incident and all the rooms those were going around sharing opinions and experiences I never had he served on about the four step by church yeah that's what I think about the force that I had no experience with this like you come at me trying to tell me about bungee jumping you don't have a clue you have no experience with it
you have makes you have experience in an area if you have experience with making amends I'm going to come to you and ask you if you have experience with repairing relationships with a caring finances etcetera etcetera I'm gonna go you and seek you out
what he did is he took me through the steps really quick lesson six weeks and he cut me loose said okay I want to start working with others my I was I was terrified read only gonna kill someone
no I'm not I had an experience I had a spiritual awakening and I got a lot of flak from people saying you have been sober long enough
where does it say that in our book do we have to be sober one year before we start sponsoring others
bill Wilson was over here Dr Bob wasn't so weird when he's are carrying the message
the only prerequisite is that I have gone through all twelve steps and I've had a spiritual awakening now I have something to offer
now I have the message I've had experience with sharing the maths it was not helpful Schering your experience in the solution this book with another suffering alcoholic you will not want to miss attempt to convey to you the excitement and the joy the jubilation of of of sharing with another alcoholic it's hard to convey if you haven't had the experience only the people who have done it will truly understand what it's like it's an absolute joy to work with other alcoholics now my mind doesn't always say that
I mean I've sponsored guys through the years you know or like emotional vampires the kind of person you put in your car to drive down the street in the street like dinnertime you drive under you know sale god will spend time with him
because I'm gonna go there and I have to listen all this whining and we have to turn around call my sponsor whine about is whining
which is something we all do you know and I'm on the way there and I'm thinking Jeez I want to be with this guy you know he's he's in victim posture is gonna wind
this is yeah I look at my watch again on this eight game number we have to get the score you know I'm gonna miss out on the you know and I get there invariably sometime in the middle of doing this step work something magical happens
and I start to have gratitude and I'm thankful
and spontaneously this prayer goes off in my head that says thank you god
thank you for allowing me to be here
and I walk away and Michael my couples full
in the next week I go through it all over again yeah
but it's from the experience so you see it doesn't matter what my mind tells me it's from the experience of the transformation experience as result to continuing to work with others you see the newcomer is the life blood in the old timers the heart in neither one can survive without the other
I need the newcomer in the newcomer needs the old timers so you see we're in this thing together kind of reminds me of an experience that I had watching the Discovery Channel they had these buffalo these was in Africa these these African buffalo and and they were all this her then was going through the past year and on the perimeter of the pasture with these lines
in the lines are just laying there not not even moving a muscle and also in one of the buffalo left the herd
in immediately the lions pounced on him and killed him
and I looked at that and I thought wow that's just like a
when I stick with the herd I'm okay
but the moment I leave the herd I'm a dead meat
I'd like to welcome all of you
the fourth dimension before we close tonight a couple things that we're going to go over
what you pull out your questionnaire
that we reviewed in our first session
these were questions on the lease and a
that we were being asked to answer true or false before and after step work the purpose of this is to see if there was any change in in what you believe
it's entitled questions of the lease and a
okay sure false
if we are planning to stop drinking all we have to do is not drink one day at a time
shortfalls
falls
on page thirty three says if we are planning to stop drinking there must be no reservation of any kind nor any looking notion that someday we will be immune to alcohol
next one once I take this step I will have a partnership with my higher power
false look what it says on page sixty two sixty three let's take a look
tell me okay sixty two
sixty three that he's a principal and his agent does that sound like a partnership
six if you're telling me that I will have a new employer does that sound like a partnership
if he has all the power is that selling a partnership nope you're seeing that bumper sticker
god is my co pilot
my goodness
that's the danger of god is my co pilot if god my co pilot who's driving the car
who's in charge
me all of the Gallup
okay global or the next one once I fully understand god I will be free from my uncle's
false wonder why this uses in the book
can I fully understand gun
no it's impossible isn't it for me to understand fully understand god is to be god
I still don't understand god
okay the big book is the only book I need to read
we just read that on page eighty seven
with the authors are suggesting that we read outside literature
next one it is not necessary to do step for more than once
through a false reading falls
the seventy one if you have already made a decision that step three and eleven during your grocer handicaps us that for you have made a good beginning doesn't say we've finished
there's no way I'm going to uncover everything I need to uncover the blocks me from god in one the inventory
we can win the confidence of another alcoholic by relating to their experiences
read it again we can win the confidence of another alcoholic by relating to their experiences what do you think your faults
mmhm
or anything or they have to relate to our experience let's see what the book says
page eighteen if you like to note that were that were the answer this is
in the italicised part says but the ex problem drinkers who has found the solution they're talking about what the spiritual solution
who is properly armed with facts about himself
can generally win the entire confidence of another alcoholic in a few hours
so you see I have to have have found a solution and being properly armed with facts about myself
that's what our our purpose in sobriety is to get back into the mainstream of life
true or false
loser
what is our purpose
yeah a real purpose is to fit ourselves to be a maximum service to god the people about us that's on page seventy seven
next one there are many different ways you can work this program
true or false
false really clear on page fifty eight very first thing we hear in hell works in every single meeting rarely have we seen a person fails fall thoroughly followed our half bath doesn't have an answer on it
next one our sobriety is the greatest position
we think
is our sobriety our greatest position
mmhm
measure with work share with you what it says on page one twenty four
the alcoholics passed laws becomes the principal asset
the family infrequently
it is almost the only one
cling to the thought that in god's hands the dark past it's a great position you have
while the key to life and happiness for others so my greatest possession is my past
stop my sobriety
the authors of the big book encourages to drink true or false
we think
page thirty one let's see what the what what the authors say step over to the nearest bar room and try some control drinking this sounds like a great way to me
they're encouraging me to go out and try some control drinking
see they're all others are trying to find out are you really an alcoholic
do you really have no power okay
next one of our main focus needs to be on the alcoholic not on their family
true or false
our main focus needs to be on the alcoholic none of their family
let's see what it says on the big book
on page ninety seven says though an alcoholic does not respond there is no reason why you shouldn't neglect his family you should continue to be friendly to them the family should be offered your way of life
we don't hear enough of this in meetings
I've had many opportunities and sobriety to go out to work with the family
when the alcoholic wasn't willing to seek a solution so we need to be willing to offer that to the family as well
next one it takes a long time to recover from alcoholism
maybe it's true anything
it takes a long time to recover from alcoholism
this
it took a long time ago it'd take Dr Vonda Wilson very long let's see what the book says on page one eighteen
we do not like the thought that the contents of the book or the work of another alcoholic is accomplished in a few weeks
that for which we struggled for years
another quote page one fifty eight
zero says over here
on the third day
the lawyer gave his life to the care and direction of his creator and said he was perfectly willing to do anything necessary
his wife came scarcely daring to be hopeful so she thought she saw something different about her husband already
while he had begun to have a spiritual experience
you in this workshop and have personal experience and that R. four weeks he's gone through all the twelve steps
okay
the next steps are not required they are suggested
that's a tricky one business
so they sit through
well it does say the chapter five that the this is us or suggest correct let's see what it says in another place the book page twenty five
almost none of us like the self searching the level at the leveling of our pride the confession of shortcomings which the process requires for its successful consummation
so if I'm going to succeed
the steps are required for me they're not suggestion reminds me of the story this guy was telling me tell me about a friend of his
who
conducted skydiving
in his anger he had all these parishes hanging on the wall with a big sign on the top of the pointing to the the the record rain saying this court this ranges but suggested when you are up there
now
is our life any less important in the person who skydiving it has a ring to take him it's only suggested that they pull it
right
for this alcoholic the steps are required according to
my own experience and experience of the authors of this book
going to the next one's going to meetings and not drinking is vital to our recovery
we think
she's going to meetings that drinking is vital to our recovery
let's see what it says a Roman numeral seventeen
Roman numeral seventeen
it also indicated that strenuous work one alcoholic with another was vital to permanent recovery
there
that's at the top of Roman numeral seventeen which is X. D. II or the authors state it also indicated that strenuous work one alcoholic with another was vital to permanent recovery
that would be in the fourth edition that will be two later pages
the last one our common suffering is what holds us together
true or false
rethink
let's see what the authors say
this is our common suffering is what holds us together let's see what it says in the book on page seventeen
the feeling of having shared in a common peril is one element of power cement which binds us but that in itself would never have held us together as we are now joined the tremendous fact for everyone of us that we have discovered a common solution
in other words are suffering is not what about binds us together our suffering is what brings us together what holds us together is the solution
every single person in this room with completed the twelve steps regardless of how long you've been sober you are now in a position to take somebody else's steps
if you're anything like me
well my sponsor first took me through the steps he cut me loose
J. okay now go out and find some way to work we need to find somebody to work with I was afraid I was going to kill somebody
but you see I had experience I had gone through the steps I would go to meetings and and I got a lot of flak from people telling me you have been sober long enough where does it say in the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous and I have to be so over X. amount of time in order to carry a message of hope
it doesn't say that in the book
once again if it's none of the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous it is not Alcoholics Anonymous
to tell each and everyone of you that have completed the steps you are the ones
you are the torch bearers of this program
you are the lifeblood the old timers the heart neither one can survive without the other
we're depending on you to carry the message of hope to the new person
to carry the message of hope back to your meetings to get active response from people so I'm encouraging every single person in this room to come back next week for a new cycle the big book workshop you are in a position you are qualified to do so you have a spiritual experience
has a compulsion to drink been removed for you
you're nodding yes that means you are in a position to do so you can't do this wrong there is no sponsor school you know how you learn to be sponsored by being one
there is no sponsors go you don't know well I need to wait times over here really
now what if Dr Bob until Wilson did that one of your bill will secure the message Dr Bob talked about today how long you've been sober
he didn't care he had a message of hope
god made a deal with me he separated me from alcohol
as a result of going through the steps and this was the deal Paul I guarantee you'll never ever have to drink again and you'll never have to live the way you were living before and all I ask is that you carry this message of hope to another alcohol
that's a smoking deal
for an alcoholic like me that's what this is I'm telling you this is the best game in town right here
nobody in this room has to ever drink again you don't ever have to live the way you were living before if you don't want to
I want to thank each and everyone of you and I want to thank you for allowing me to be of service and I'm looking forward to seeing each and everyone of you next Sunday for a new cycle of the big book workshop so you can come here and be a service
to the new person
who wants to be taken through the steps as outlined in this book so they too can have freedom
god bless you thank you very much