Blackstone Retreat in Blackstone, VA

Blackstone Retreat in Blackstone, VA

▶️ Play 🗣️ Don M. ⏱️ 1h 16m 📅 02 Jul 1999
give us a great big Blackstone welcome for don M.
from Whitney Texas
reshaped it always always good to be asking anywhere and and good to be
good good to be sober my name is don Maloney I am an alcoholic
read through the grace of god people like you have not had a drink now says July first of nineteen seventy five and for that I'm grateful I really am and my whole group is the lake Whitney group it is the A. capital the world were humility is our primary purpose and and I need to let you know that because my sponsor Bob white who's passed on since nineteen eighty four said that if you ever have a chance to get past somewhere to go talking you're in front of a group of people in Alcoholics Anonymous you must always wear a coat and tie
you will because you said you have to clean up and looked like you're so over and saying even though you may not be he said number one and number two you must always tell them that you're from the a cap of the world and if you don't you will be struck drunk within twenty four hours
so I'm here to report it that is my home group and if your heart you don't think you have the best home group then by golly do something about it say right in there hang in there with him and changes were you do feel that way because I think that's where Alcoholics Anonymous happens for people like those that are asked to come back to a place like Blackstone is just more than my mind will allow to me even to conceive because they used to always say things to me like out instead of come on in you know and if you drank a lot got Drake and probably there's maybe where you came from two bit I want to first of all thank the committee and the trustees for having the courage not to wisdom but having the courage of asking me back again after after six or seven years or however long it's been you got to hear precious today and she did a wonderful job I'd like to give her a hand she loves
she said don't embarrass me Alan iser said that a lot though I know you know
when I read the back of your program a lot of what it says on the back your program about this being a spiritual weekend and this being a spiritual life free trade and and said that is the nature of what we're doing Hey I'm here to tell you that I believe Alcoholics Anonymous in the recovery program is spiritual period though and thank god and we do give credit to thanking god for that particular privilege but it's good to be at a retreat or at a conference were we our primary focus is on the spiritual side of the Alcoholics Anonymous in the outgoing on fellowship side of the program and and a it's an honor for me to be asked that as I was in the room earlier after dinner this evening and I was trying to think
well how do I get real spiritual you know real quick no because it won't be long I'm all have to be afraid for the people and every one of the rooms and I don't know about in the rooms over here but in the rooms they basically put in there a thing called the Bible you know and and I opened it up maybe just flopped open you know and when it flopped open it flopped open to proverbs and it describes alcohol is not listen real careful and maybe you can relate to this if you want to know I think is maybe one of the best definitions of alcoholism and I've ever heard yeah I know and I learned it tonight you know in that room here at Blackstone this comes from proverbs verse twenty three and chapter or verse eighteen and it says
show me someone who drinks too much you has to try out for a few drinks and I will show you someone miserable and sorry for himself always causing trouble and always complain
his eyes were bloodshot and he has bruises that could have been avoided
got a few of you didn't don't let wind tempt you even though it is rich red and it sparkles in the Cup and it goes down smoothly the next morning you will feel as if you have been bitten by a poisonous snake
weird science will appear before your eyes and then you will not be able to think or speak clearly
you will feel as if you were out on the ocean C. six winging it high on the rigging of a tossing ship
can have you at one
I said I must I must have been hit you will say my must have been beaten up but I don't remember it said why can't I wake up and then it says in ends I need another drink
it's in the book it's in that book
so I thought that was sort of a funny thing to me about pick up and read and just sore having hit me there but but I think that probably describes alcoholism you know and I have alcohol is and by the way I don't have alcohol wasn't I need to let you know that I am an alcoholic and will always be an alcoholic in the in the isn't part of the disease for me is the high and the self in the me and that's the self centeredness of of our particular illness and I think that's what we constantly have to stay and watch over
is the self centeredness that always can appear
my sponsor told me that my mind was like a bad neighborhood I should never go up there alone yeah
he said you better if you can't get a hold of me before you go up there you say the least ask god to come to the meeting yeah so and that's true because left to my own devices and left to my own way of thinking I can convince myself of anything you know and using that committee in my head will meet and most of them are up there in fact I happen to believe we have one of the only illnesses are the only disease that the disease is always telling you that you don't have the disease yeah so so it's always up there to get you and if you leave yourself alone too long without sponsorship without meetings without stamps and without god in your life the disease will say you don't have the disease and I think that's why the alcoholic goes back to drinking it really is not a big secret I've watched it now for twenty three years and and what happens is we get away from each other is what we do we call that missing meetings yeah
and it without fail when somebody comes back to Alcoholics Anonymous I will say to them did you quit going to meetings and they usually go yes yeah no and none of them have said oh man this last time it was great I had three weeks of Florida in late on the beach of all the girls if they don't come back with those stories they can always come back saying it absolutely was worse than it was the last time and they've quit going to meetings Sir must be a key somewhere and I was attending meetings on a regular basis and I think a sober member Alcoholics Anonymous is somebody that attends our home group on a regular basis and if I'm in the lake Whitney area on Mondays Thursdays and Saturday nights on or I'm supposed to be at eight o'clock and that's in a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous my sponsor told me said real drunks get sober at eight so you'll be there hill
no I'm not sure whether there's a six o'clock meeting and there's a noon Maney said real gross gets overnight you know
what I found out is this when he went to meet each of his check all may make sure our stay in Seoul
and thank god for those old timers it is such a pleasure to be here and to be in the presence of so much sobriety you know and to feel like a new pup you know because it is really true I mean to see these guys standing up with thirty five years and thirty eight years in thirty three years and forty years and I think this German set down on forty eight or fifty you know and I just think that's wonderful I have the privilege of still being a junior person in my home group you know we had a and an average median our ranks somewhere in middle sobriety you know and that's pretty neat because there's a lot of groups if you got over ten years you got a lot of sobriety and you're the use you the senior person in the group
so I'm grateful to have always had and will continue to always have the old timers around me and that's neat and it's been real special this weekend to be in the presence of doctor Marley and his beautiful red rose either I want to thank you for the hospitality that you presented is with it's always a pleasure I call how the gentleman's gentleman of alcoholics in general and I think he has because one of the things that how passed on to me early in sobriety and somewhere along the line our paths crossed on West Texas early in the sobriety and and he sort of adopted me and and what I learned is that we have to have those people the gold before or as that we can still hold on to hold on to and continue to live in their legacy and then turn probably have somebody they're holding on to it I think that's where Alcoholics Anonymous is for me and he has given me that attitude of gratitude that I love so dearly and I and I learned that from how long long time ago and when all else fails sit down and figure out what you're grateful for and I'll tell people our work with it'll say well what are you grateful for what's your attitude of gratitude that say well I don't have any great gratitude today and I said well are you in jail no we're right it down I'm not in jail you know I said it will start with a negative gratitude list called what are you grateful for I'm not in jail you know I'm not locked up I'm not right this minute you know and and you go through that listen for you knowing you can add to that a gratitude list to start getting some other things that you're grateful for
because again left to our own device to lift your own thinking I believe that that we will totally be immersed in our illness one more time and that is alcohol is in the active disease of alcoholism and the way we keep interested is back continued to help each other
I also want to thank Joe Joe carried is over Petersburg the other day and and and though I don't know where we're going Joe said there's a church over there in Petersburg take some folks over would you like to read over you and Karen I should yeah I like to do that and I wanna thank you Joe because that was the spiritual trip for me it really was it was in the trip and he said well we're going to go look at some stained glass now so we're going to cause some stained glass you know and I don't know if you've been fears road but if you haven't I recommend you do that because we went to this church and we saw the stained glass and we saw a gentleman named Tiffany who you've heard of probably before and what Mr Tiffany did under contract because he he contracted for the Confederate states to put together a memorial and stained glass and and what he did is that he created the apostles and staying glass and and I've been studying the apostle lately and it was just to me was magnificent and when I left out of there I felt that there was a little difference in me somehow or another my consciousness had shifted one more time in because what I saw is the similarity and the girl that I've had in the last six to nine months of my life has been to look for the similarities in each other rather than the differences in each other not only an Alcoholics Anonymous but in all areas of my life
and I'm here to tell you when my consciousness shifted to look for the same this is instead of the differences the world became alive one more time and what I saw in the stained glass over there as I saw Alcoholics Anonymous you know if you take that beautiful portrait of Palmer portrait of Peter whatever apostle was depicted over there and you took all those little pieces of stained glass and laid him out apart from each other they would appear to be just a bunch of broken rubble
and that's sort of like we are in Alcoholics Anonymous left to our own in prior to us getting in the Alcoholics Anonymous we're just a bunch of assorted glass that appear to be broken rubble in somehow or another because of god working in our labs and sponsorship and the steps we come in here and you all sort of glued together yeah or god loses the gather or those old timers it stood up longer than you were able to stood up glue you together enough to create this beautiful masterpiece of this beautiful mosaic
call a same last please and that's what I saw when I went to Petersburg and that left an impact on me and I and I challenge you to go over there and look at that some day and maybe have that same enlightenment that came to me
the other thing that impacted me over there was that we got to stand on the grave site of thirty thousand Confederate soldiers that were buried in that cemetery
and it was awesome to be able to stand there on top of that many people that have gone because of a commitment because of a commitment they have made they were willing to die over whatever that commitment was whatever their belief system but the awesomeness of that and somebody said it may be it was Joe or maybe was the curator of the tech is on the tour but said that
fifty years they bury those people in a mass grave in you know for all of us you know we would have been dead for me I would have been dead for sure if I to continue to drink but they break those people in a mass grave and then fifty years later they dug them up again to find the lapel pins they were worried so they could put him in the proper states and now you can walk around the cemetery and see Texas and see North Carolina NC Tennessee and it just created a feeling for me that that I can't tell you what it meant to me so I want to thank you Joe for that trip you know I had no idea that was going to be a spiritual trip for me and and it end up being that way for me course I want to thank Dave in Juliet I mean we've had fun with them you know and we they met is at the airport and we stop tourists replace deed on the way up you know
the
finally ended up with one and Julie I had it right all right away we split a beer together you know action actually was a repair but wish I said event Goldring's repair frosted mug she can't be all bad yeah and we had fun get to know Julie and that's been a real pleasant part of our journey this trip are they tell me they're not supposed to share with you my experience my strength and my hope
I don't try to do that in a sort of brief way in and maybe cover some ground at night so maybe that you can identify with something that I might say if you're new here I ask that you stay here you got nowhere else to go I've tried it you know I can just tell you that when you're here you might as well stay here you don't get here by actually model just hang in there with his don't be like me for the first couple years in Alcoholics Anonymous I would bounce in and out Alcoholics Anonymous and not getting any sobriety I used to get what I call ninety days I was a ninety day wonder every ninety days I'd wonder what I was doing today you know and
and and I would take a drink you know now I didn't get a chip on it inside a birthday card and I didn't get a sponsor I didn't work the steps and I sure didn't do what you people do it because that was not abnormal behavior for me because I never did do it the way it was supposed to be done so for me to come in today and do it your way right off was nothing that I could do but I'm telling you if your news here you never have to go back out there again and if whatever you have lost to get here and that could be a wife a job of family your health and that story goes on and on from this point on from this point on tonight you're no longer operate now to ignorance there's another way to live and everything can be added to you from this point on instead of taken away from you and if you got here like I got here seem like everything was taken away from me everything was gone it just you know this was usually not our first stop on Black Hawk Elise who was in for made in Alcoholics Anonymous so stay here with his
I remember a bassoon Alcoholics Anonymous and this man met me at the door he said kid and I was a kid then you know and he said I didn't like you call me kid you know and he said clearly said you'd better stay here with this
I'm not sure why he said well you look like a pretty smart young man I said I am
he said your best thinking got you here tonight did it
he said you better stay here with us and I said the famous words alcoholic always says why why
any says I'm gonna tell you why he said this is where the magic is then he turned around walked all and I'll never forget that man my life because he's right what we have here in Alcoholics Anonymous is magic it just happens and we have can't be understood and it can't be figured out and you will never be able to analyze this in detail it down to where you can grasp it and thank god my sponsor said if I ever understood alcohol is my would probably try to franchise it or sell it you know and and he's right he's right so people like me could be dangerous you know and so what we do is this is a disease is what it is and I happen to believe it's an illness but the reality is is that we will never fully understand how Alcoholics Anonymous works because it is a spiritual programs and for us to understand how it works we would have to have the same understanding that god has in in that big book it says deep down every man woman and child there is the deep reality of god and I believe that for us I really do
and if you don't have a gun in your understanding I will be glad to lend you mine
I have a strong faith in my god today and I lend them out a lot yeah and so if you need one I'll let you have mine for awhile don't hurt him please I need him on occasions you know but I will tell you that that is the system that I think hoses together as far as Alcoholics Anonymous is concerned
I've been a similar program for about two years before before I finally heard an old timers say
Calgary he said I think I've got your problem figured out now should you do we had on that was sort of amazing that somebody could figure out my problem you know and I thought well I sure don't know what it what is my problem he said I don't think he said I don't believe you're having a problem with drinking well that was strange you know and I caught me off guard I said what do you think he said well he said we lost you for a couple years now and he says we think that you've got good and drunk down as well as anybody we've ever seen
we are absolutely without a doubt did you can I think you know and get drunk and get in trouble and do what this other book said let that forces think jump rope burn brightly you know
he said I don't know what your problem is what is my problem
he said you're having trouble with sobriety
you said you're having trouble with sobriety
slash huh
he said I'll bet you can't stand behind so I bet you hate those sober periods in between drugs and you know he was right for the first time that man read my mail he was right I hated to be sober I couldn't stay in B. and so you know broke is what I like best you know because that was the problem I didn't have to feel and I didn't have to worry about and if you don't I thought I'd write you right so you could get to that place it only last briefly trying to chase it but that was what I drink for I drink to get away I drank to leave drink too not things can I drink so I didn't have to be sober
and didn't know what it was called and they'll listen this call alcohol ism non alcohol was from and when that that became clear to me I'll walk to a sort of mystified and he said when you come to this meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous and sit in the chair he said why don't you spend your time trying to identify with these people instead of the state of trying to not identify with these people
and I said oh
he said the and so I went to meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous then to be able to listen and if you said I've been in prison for towns and I hadn't been to prison four times I no longer have to log that in my computer bag that says I'm not like them I'm not like them I'm not like them I'm not like them because we will develop a terminal uniqueness otherwise they will absolutely kill is without a doubt you know it is called the disease of alcoholism so if you're new here or if you're only here and I and I happen to believe that we need to twelve step the old timer as well as the new person an Alcoholics Anonymous because you're fortunate to have this much sobriety be able to stand up at this retreat I'm here to tell you that because the old timer needs to feel a part of two you know and we've been there done that and they've been there done that more and I am so if you're new you should hang on to that old timer because that's where your legacy is going to come from
so I just first of all got a sort of an inkling of maybe this thing wasn't such a bad deal may be Alcoholics Anonymous might work for me if I give it a chance to work for me yeah
I did my first drink when I was fourteen years of age I did took an earlier somebody would have asked me no nobody had asked me to take a break prior to fourteen in the in these eighteen year old boys
I said you got a money on yeah yeah they say can you get twenty Bucks to get arrested you mentioned the ship will pick you up on Friday bringing your twenty dollars us there are you know they come back pick mail is what we all do she will drive around drag cars and pick up some women us okay you know I've been waiting for that for a long time at least two years you know
and they showed up in my hand but twenty dollars not ready and we went out in the gas you give me a twenty dollars make him twenty dollars and we pulled up this liquor store in some little round one inner bark some blues and came out and gave a Jersey took a bottom and each one of us have panel whiskey and it was Kroll whiskey in America that black nasty looking curl on that model I see somebody on your own
you can always tell the are going to go down undergo what's old crow you know
in a symbolic around in the car and they gave me one they gave me a bottle of coke and that was back when Koepka shot me a drink yeah no I didn't put it up your nose you know and and and I sit there with my coke in my own
and they sort of looked at me you know and they continue just look at me and they said you know what to do don't you
in this a lot I've done this I've done this many times matter of fact you know you see because you always have to you can't ever let them know that you don't know you know and that's the trouble most alcoholics have is we carry that through our adulthood we always Fakin it yeah no I mean we're professional interviews we get any job we don't know how to do it alone but we can get him no
I had a baby a sponsor but I live in a warm hand he was a telephone manning when I'm down to jobs tile setter us you can't do that has not been arsenal your fears he said I needed a job he said they needed tile setters so about a week later he felt banister Ron you got to go telling people you can't set time so he went into the boss he says I need a day almost over member of Alcoholics Anonymous last post to be honest all my affairs and I can't set town boss looked and **** we know
now if your call we can you know before they know you'll quit just before they call you in to get rid of you
they've been firing my life but I've quit a hundred and four job
just before the ax comes falling down so the boys pick me up and we went out that night and they said you know if you hold your nose and break it down real fast and chase you with a coke it won't burn
I know that you know and they waited so I held my nose and I choked down part of that old crow whiskey and god it was awful this taste of ever had my mouth not spit in this field and you know it it was bad you know I I thought I don't know if this is worth it or not yeah no I mean you hear some speakers talk about whole we just set off bells and they warmed up and they could be a man amongst men and they were eight foot tall man I thought was terrible it was you know and then I will tell you that I drink at pine whiskey in twenty eight minutes I don't recommend that for your first drink by the way
I was pretty sick puppy within a short amount of time you know and then I learned if they tried to sober me up and they said you got a more money in between me throwing up and I said sure and they should give me five hours we'll get you some coffee
and they went and bought me flowers were the black coffee and I will tell you in nineteen fifty six or whatever was that buys a whole lot of coffee you know
and they would pour Cup downpour cook from elitist head at the oval on
they finally took me home stood me between the screen door in the door and lane man and rang the bell and left
the my mother did come the door I fell right in the living room floor and my mother said
you know mothers like it they'll love alcoholic Bowers till we die they really just do
you just know when our wars are going home to mama you know they're on their way home to mom to get rated you know as far as
there may be a girls gone Danny I don't know
but she said I was yelling food boards and on the way down
the Monday incident so please drop
in the home and down the hall and threw me on the bed to read to Sharm we cling me up took twenty dollars out of my Wallace's son I don't mind you coming home grown but it's gonna cost you twenty Bucks of democratically via
there you go I've learned during my command you know
three weeks later
when I was finally on grounded
also in mobile is again they said Hey where are you man US open hang out another into town
chasing girls
how would you like to go with it again Freddie you got twenty dollars US said yeah I said but I got a problem an issue what's an asset I think I'm allergic to that old crow whiskey initiative you ever tried haven hill not should know all this **** it's smooth
so I went out with him again I made a conscious decision that night I had a moment of clarity number one I will never break old crow whiskey is longer
number two I will never drink coffee no because if coffee made USA because it did me you would never drink coffee and to this day I've never drank old crow whiskey and I drank stuff you can't even drink later on you know and I have never drank coffee ever since and because it left in my mind that that imprint is to god coffee will make you sick you know I have no clue how your consumers much coffees you do you just haven't had my experience I mean that's all there is to
well I like to tell you that was the only time I ever got real drunk and I just got lonely came day but that wouldn't be true
and so I went about my wife of improving my story long before even no one needed a story you know and and that's where alcohol is my having to believe it's a progressive illness you know and I drank my way up the ladder of success for a long period of years you know we have a tendency to do that when they still say he's a bright young brilliant young man and he he's one of the best man we've got our our sales team at and god were proud of him and and then they would start saying things but he drinks a little too much or he gets drunk at the wrong time or would you believe how much you drank the other night why does he get drunk like he does you know in that story and is this story gets worse your income starts getting less you know they start to have a relationship out there because after a while you can drink your way up the ladder only so long and you start falling down the other side yeah and it became a roller coaster for me was a series of ups and downs careers wise it kept getting lower and lower on the curve as my alcoholism could get more dominant in my life you know
to the eventual point where I just decided that all I really want to do is during
that's really what my goal was my goal was to hang in there and stay dry yeah and I could care less
couple things happened to me during my active alcoholism and I'm here to tell you that if you're alcoholic and you leave this room to go take a drink it'll be worse than the severance and absolutely worse than it's ever been in your life you know because it is a progressive disease consult my hand when the masses you mean I could go to a
zero then you go back and bring stuff will happen to you you can't believe what happened I mean I started going to jail on a regular basis you know on that one is thing on my list I started carrying guns hello I was paranoid carrying guns I'm fine I went to an old friend of mine I got in a fight with no more one time at the Country Club head do some with his wife I never could get all the details down and and
and I beat him up in the parking lot because he was trying to beat me up and I and I and I thought well you know but I really was losing because I was bloody too and we sort of kept score on who was the bloodiest knew that the most broken bones you know S. or how they are going thinks they win you know
Hey I support medium open gas don't worry about it said he'll kill you city killed worn Henderson really should not too long ago about four five years ago went penitentiary for three years it was self defense but they still sent away for three years you should help him shoot you want in days that's what he does shoot people
what is frightening for an alcoholic
I mean that guy's gonna shoot me you know so when you get that new information in your head that you're drinkin and you start getting paranoid he starts leaving out bad trees that aren't there and doing that sort of stuff so I decide I need me a pistol so I called a friend of mine who is a Dallas policeman asset I need me a gun he said what Forrest I said kill somebody he sure would be going there for us because you go kill me he's a
he said I'll get you a personal question okay
we drank on ninety hammy my pistol not sure what is it he said it's a three eighty automatic with a hair trigger on initiatives got nine clips the nine clip chamber in it he says he said in a flat kill us or our rights yeah
soon I could round you know and and I put the clip over my visor and I put the gun between the seats and I'll grab a bagel pink blanket it was about eight foot long on the front hood you know who it is step way out there and look like a paint running down the road
just remember that buzzer Graham that clip thrown that done and get it ready to go in and I practice getting the sun behind we sort of blinding him you know and I mean
you go to practice the whole deal you know how we all
god told me says he said Maloney said is about four or five months later they added the club drunken Gandhi samadhi at awards back in town I said
he said
Sydney asked about U. S. our whole mark
some ran down the road one day and I thought I think on a bold for the good number to get me some votes for that gun I mean I've been practicing all this time but I'm bullish
so I wouldn't give his store up in Tyler Texas and I walked in there and I said I need votes from a gun in the gas what kind of gun you got masters look very good you know
he said now it's important we know what kind of gun it is to put both Watson I said oh I said I'll be right back I went out to my pet mobile and got my gun in there and handed it over to god this morning good I should fill it up
he's just me all kinds of questions
he sure will kind of show do you won't I said I don't want to fit the bill
he said well we've got let headed your only the hollow point jails and we got you know and he started going through the whole litany on different shell I don't know nothing about guns hello never had a gun Amala
I said I want the most expensive but what you got
he surely will use it for us if I stood eight people up in a row and shot the first guy want aids that rob did
he said and then he started getting excited
he's got some stainless steel jacketed hollow
just came in here I don't have a clue as to why we got him he said I got a whole box of
please I said how much are they said a dollar fifty a ball what I said I'll take the whole box
and I had silver bullets no man about us and now I got a gun boats and I'm all morning
well I'm right down the road one night you know and I got to thinking again you know and then the thought called
I hate this clip in broad pretty good it was time I myself had it down pretty good but I got to think anyone thought was one of the five fired his gun in the work order for the for her ill on at least practice you know a little bit make sure they're able to shoot no Giambrone down at when I'm grown that big Lincoln in
**** a gun put that clip in there
held it here and rhyme with my left hand here and
and I find it a win
it is the winner
for the show to them
is
you can get hurt this does
and I will tell you when you shoot a gun off inside a car
it makes no
no
I took the clip but god put it back over the visor in a sweat but from my left side to put it back between the bucket seats and as I went across you all forgot to tell me that when you put a bullet in an automatic there's always one in the chamber and generate anymore moments you know it is not too good because my left leg my finger hit the here triggering that went all
he shot a hole right through Malaysia
I went to the top of the lake bottom all they went through the seat of the car went through the floorboard of the car
I think it may have killed some although one channel
through the window
me
however with the owners go no news no not
it's going to slowly poured on
if you was married to her you to kill yourself to
and those kids from that job you know and I thought I don't really want them to think this is suicide not threatened suicide several times I mean I wouldn't serious charges do not get attention and I thought were my going to
and I thought I better do some quick come down at the
so I thought well I'll leave a note telling me as an accident
well I didn't have a pen and paper with me in
so I thought well honestly even blood and I have plenty of that phone so I did my finger in the hole and I was right on the window
this is not a suicide
and I just fell dead you know and
a past good idea went into shock and I woke up and I still you know head blood everywhere I mean you know and I went on home and threw myself on the hood of the car and yelled I've been shot
zero
never had an army never hit a ball just went right through that link you know
wow when I traded Carl fatal car dealership Maloney
he said I'm a link in your vote for me I said waiter tan Johnny he said if I ever did I ever ask you when you come in your name benders rolled bumped up I said no said iris yet time you come in you had back tail light shot out of it now has a virus can a question about your cars when you trade him and I said no he said I got to ask you how do you go to blow a hole in the CD your call
I said I don't know John
can't Taylor by you run around shoot yourself you do that at the Baptist church they look weird at you
one other story for us over a
I've been out Alcoholics Anonymous my father who's passed on now passed on eighty six used to drink with me
and we did wrong once a week about how he could stand you know but but we drink about once a week and and I was in the apparel business at the time that the pearl Martin Dallas and I was high rolling as usual and that
we left tomorrow and then we went over to one of the better places to drink it was called the Blue Note lamb sure you can tell by the name that it was elegant you don't land
we're we're near drinking elegant brings we were drinking fish bowls of beer and shots of whiskey submerged in the fish bowl in the column depth charges you go in the object is to mix at whiskey with that beer without that shot glass hit you in the nose you know
a good you know we're taking those bears I was pretty well wasted my bad said come on we got the lead we got to go home he said I've been here too long he said we are mothers don't be worried about us not Jim between wives you know an issue we got to go home I said all right I said I don't I can't leave now set up the phone in love with this girl
he said just look at her and he looked at the girl out been sore Dancin with mission with you know it she was laying up on the bar and she had her head down on the ball
it was back when all you women wore wigs in her wake was land along Saturday
he said looking at her she lost her
and I just didn't seem to look that man here
he should get in a car let's go
so we live in our memories when I'm drinking I'm not eaten down my drinking you know and all of a sudden the hunger's was flown home you know and other cross street near the church's chicken I don't know if you all have church's chicken over this part of the world I went over us and then I got to him he said on BT said son you're too drunk to drive home we said I'll follow you home my car
makes perfect sense somebody's too drunk to drive let another drunk following home
you're probably doing it
if you're drunk we better watch him
I'm going to check in place not that I'll be right back and I stumble up to the chicken place and they got one a little winded deals you know you walk up to the on off they still got a rare but I walked up to that window place in our grab a hold of the wind had little counter stuck out like his podium and I grabbed a hold of the wind and that was the first mistake I made you never grab the standard stationary object when you've been drinking his
because when I grab that went to that whole churches was moved
and my job was to hold it down yeah
and this lady open the window open she said in those words that they say when they look at you when you're drunk you know and their families have done in your wives and she said what do you want
I said I want to check it
she said how much chicken do you want I should how much chicken a you got
how may we were into the chicken war
and I was going to win I knew I was going you know
I said I got more I want more chicken and you got she said bit shoot us at all war she said you want courthouse on a warrant article
the data is give me a bunch of potatoes gravy I S. I even bought papers not only want to go John I got these big bucket of chicken and I got all these fictions and I'm getting to the karma dancing get a call get a call you know he's mad and angry I get in and course once you get the Kerr you got to set it up on me you're going to have a picnic you gotta get ready you know some way in all the chicken out and biscuits and you know and I got drinks mixed and you know when I'm ready I could live my car for two weeks based on my food supply in that car
he said we got to go I said all right so we got in the car and he followed me for a while and I was ran down the road chicken and stuff and drinking whiskey and you know a man live don't get any better you know
I had a big yellow link and then traded at I think with the bow off you know
and I saw this big rack up there and I thought my god it looks like eight or ten traffic that our tractor trailer trucks at all collided together and all and tail lights was on there and I thought oh my god they've had a wreck and I'm more have slowed down and the cops are going to say something to me and I'm all have to talk about the lineages of a family and they're going to get into that argument going back and forth and they're going to send me to jail again and and I just see the whole thing and I was just scared because I thought my god I'm drunk I'm going to jail one more time you know and as I approach that Rick little closure I have some relief and I found that it would wreck after all was the Dallas north tollway and those were the lights on the toll gates you know were you with her
and I was really relieved I po right upper to both my dad is right behind me in the car and then I figured I got another problem I got a new dilemma hi my go get twenty cents out of my pocket for not getting chicken all over my part
hello and I thought well if I just ruined jurors read or write a check in the store even
some region in a big got the wings and stuff I don't like it I'm throwing it
and my dance band me home
my goodness
three two three dollars with chicken I went right on through there now lights in their chicken ate out Matt basket
he pulled off with the first accident didn't call me for two weeks
hi Sir comedian come out go to Daddy should you
I finally used up that relationship with my mother and father and for alcoholic says uses the last relationship that we use up if you still have one around the
because they're the use of the last people that we love you when you can't love yourself and that your parents and I finally use it up in my bed was a drinking man and he drank with me but one day I came up to the house and I was sober that day and I said to him I said that I said how's it going he said son I need to talk to you and I should file which they talk about
and you said your mother and I have had some talks and we've decided you can't come over here anymore and I said you may when I'm drinking he said no I mean anymore
and I said you may when I'm drinking you should know never again
he said we love you he said that you are now **** up our relationship he said your mother and I spend more time arguing about you and discussing about you to the point where our relationship in working anymore and we're not going to lose our relationship is as a result of you trying to lose your life during
and he says I love you he said but we don't want to see you again
and I'm okay that went right to muscle that went right to my soul and I said this is the voice inside me outside was silent but the voice inside were screaming how could you do this to me don't you know that you're the last thing on earth that I've got left because I lost my wife and my kids and my friends and my banks and all that stuff was gone you know and they were the only ones left and I said how could you do that to me and I used to go over and drink whiskey I get me a bottle out to go over and sit in our driveway and I drink it violent crime
and just cry and I see my mother go to the wind and pick out of my dad would shut the window and let would let her go outside
and then once a week on Wednesday hours live in lake house at Cedar Creek lake that my mother would come overall wins season my dad letter come over any drop off for one hour and she'd come in there and clean up vomit and clean up the mess and tried to get me to eat some food and do the things to keep her only keeper keeper son alive I shared another two children but our short of the favor we are holding so the favorite we really are
and I will tell you that that killed my soul I think that was probably the turning point for me where I have family woke up and I've been in and out it for a couple years
Bouncin is bouncing out all of a sudden I had nowhere else to go
but the Alcoholics Anonymous because I knew without a shadow down to my life was over as I knew it in life did not work on my terms and it made me was the first real honest time that I knew
and I picked up the phone and I called you people in alcoholics and
Kalgan name Roisin acid Royce
I can't stand it any longer a cell wall coming
he said we've been waiting on you we've been praying for you she would love that he said I'll come out there and get you and I said no I can you know I couldn't even walk get over it that's how we are I know I'll be
so I got up my shave not shard best I could not put on my clothes and I got as far seven Porsche Texas and I had to go use the restroom and there was a liquor store that I went to and I wanted to use the restroom and I came out there was a bottle of Jack Daniels green label there was a coke Cola and there was two cups I assume two packs of cigarettes into slim Jim
and I never asked for me see that was my standard order in the in the guide liquor store says start early they are we
he he knew what my order was I couldn't embarrass him say you know I don't think I have that today I'm going to
hello so I got in the car and he was watching me and I know he was watching me with those eyes those eyes of people look at it and say indeed sad that that man is killing himself wondering at a time
why does he do that why does he
and I makes me a great toasted ham and I break all the way to Dallas and it's not always about eighty miles from where I would live in it took me about six hours to get
and I came to I came out of that black out and I was in a bar over on Greenville Avenue and I was broken I found two new found friends and we were all drinking whiskey and shots and and I was knocking you people and I was cussing Alcoholics Anonymous and I was telling them how it would work no one they sent to them ever trying it if they wanted to and I have went to the phone to call roars out of some reason not called Lori said let him know that what I thought about a and he said
and I said I'm at the cave on Greenville Avenue in this is what I want tell you any hung up the phone
and he came to the door of the bar and set down on the barstool next to me and and we talk
you never talked about Alcoholics Anonymous he never talked about you people he never talked about sobriety and then he said don I need to go and I need to let you know two things for Ali he said what's that I see where you're going he said I'm going to a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous he said because if I don't go to meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous I will forget that I'm a member of Alcoholics Anonymous and for me to forget means I would drink again for me to drink again means that I probably will die
or go insane or be locked up permanently
he said I need to tell you two things one I love no man has ever told me that no one you know
and I wouldn't let him and I said what he said I love
and he said number two you do not have to live where you live
there's a better way
and you turn around like you hit the door and when he hit the door us of course god take me with you man I can't stand it any longer come on
so I got outside I said I'll follow you my car he said no you won't
easy to get in my car I suggest a man and I went over my car reach under my seat pulled out my bottle whiskey
and I took my bottle of whiskey with a soft on that model all the way to Alcoholics Anonymous and I walked into the pristine club in Dallas Texas where I've been in and out of for a couple years
and again I may have made to Dorney said son
he said we sure are glad you're here he said but you can't bring that Joe again
he said this is for people that don't want to drink alcohol and if you want to drink will respect your rights to do that we watched you for a Lotta years we know you can do that but you can't bring volunteer
he said but we understand we look
so I went down to the restroom to think on it and I got in the last start Christian club and I'm sucking on a bottle and now I have nothing left in my life is worth living I don't have any family that talk to me I don't have any friends amount of money I'm broke I don't go to jail like me barely you know and and I mean I'm flat busted out got nothing worse lives and I'm sitting in that mode trying to decide if you people have what I want or do I want what I already
I mean that is so insane and that's why this illness is conning and baffling because it will whip you down to the next level then you never know you're there and you always say if I ever get to you know do something when you get to there you're down here and for you know what if you don't die you will hit bottom and then look up to us one more time and say I need help
now here's a guy that's got nothin yeah
and I took that bottle and hit it
beyond the commode
and I said I guess I will try one more me
and I walked in that meeting about colic synonymous and that was on June the thirtieth of nineteen seventy five and I haven't had a drink alcohol should
as a result to you people
so Alcoholics Anonymous worked for people like me and I know it will work for people like you
now let me tell you about sobriety best saying it's ever happened to me the best thing to ever happen to you we have a way of life here that is so miraculous and so on the label you won't know until you get it
and when it gets good it'll be so good that you'll have to give it up
my sponsor used to say to me son he said what alcoholics have trouble doing his experience in the good in our lives because we get six or seven good days are always the same old stuff nothing ever happened
and we just saw you for the good in our lives Bob are used to say he said you've got to give up the good in order to experience the better
and he said if you will give up the good as you see it in your life
you'll always experience the better
in one day you give up the good
whether it be good job good wives good whatever the case may be as good as you think it can't get it because we don't know how good he can get it when we give it up all of a sudden it just gets better
and then after four five days it would be a better you know what happens it's good
because they're so marriages gets good again hello and then you got to give it up again to get the better
and he said what we have here is a process
I think Chuck Caesar is on cover discovering discarded it happens on a regular basis and I will tell you I know less about Alcoholics Anonymous and how it works today than I did five six years ago when I was here and I did in my first five years
and I think the longer hang out here the more I know that this is definitely a guard program not a don program and it works because I let it work today and I experience of the action of Alcoholics Anonymous in the faith that I have an Alcoholics Anonymous without having to try to run the D.
without trying to run the
my fourth year of sobriety
I was a legend in my own mind by now Hey you know I was running out of college and I was going to re write been going to get it all for them out during the day served on halfway house boards on hospital boards in your open there you know use them summer trade for six years we're doing everything you know of course I'm not paying attention my merry and I'm not paying attention my business and I'm not doing the things I'm supposed to be doing that and I in the crash and burn you know I went broke and I went bankrupt I got divorced my dad was dying of cancer and all that seem to happen one day by the way that they had before I leave him when I took my first year chip in Alcoholics Anonymous
he came to my birthday celebration song we get my first year chip and he never drank again after that day
and every year when he was alive he would come to my birthdays and I would give him my old ship
and so when I had two years he would have the year we kept passing that **** down and that's the miracle of you people because he saw you people through me he never could see me through me he only saw me through you and that's the way Alcoholics Anonymous work
that's the way Alcoholics Anonymous for sure why it had not worked on my terms in that fourth or fifth year one more time I was Mister Horton I was all important I've become really ill self centeredness is the nature of my own it says so throughout the book this is we think that our trouble center in our minds
we think there are problems of our own making lots of places throughout the big book it talks about our primary illness in our primary illness is self centered
to the point where we can't stand life based on life's terms and without me and you together we go back to drinking alcohol or doing drugs or whatever you do to escape from the reality of your reality
that's why we need each other that's why we will always need each other because of ourselves we can do nothing self knowledge of sales is nothing talks about in the Big
I crashed and burned went broke went bankrupt in
was sentenced to lake Whitney Texas you know from Dallas and I was a high roller from Dallas and I was sent the liquid detection they turned me over to a guy named Bob white and Bob put my life together
we studied a book called big book of Alcoholics
and he gave me an assignment in the morning I had to report back at five o'clock and tell him what I did for the day and I couldn't date for one year and I couldn't speak in AAA said to give my name's Friday for one year
I'm a one time I snuck off to Waco thirty miles away and talk to the new meeting he heard about it before the day was a winner five o'clock and he said I said I do day Garcia went
it did do is it would you give what you told me do that he said I hear you've been talking
they know their stuff I don't know how they know their stuff with them sponsored always know that stuff fatty later on they know their stuff because they did most of their
and you can set your watch the progression of alcoholism even in recovery you can do that you can just absolutely do in recovery
well I had to learn about my illness and I had to learn about B. as self centered and I knew nothing about relationships I've been married twice and divorced twice and had girlfriends in between and I didn't know how to have relationships I took hostages in relationships rather than trying to have relationships and I had reaction ships they react I react we knew how to do all that deal and then came along precious you know she told you how we met she told you how we got together and what we did when we were together
you know and that's been the best thing that's ever happened to me but I've had to learn how to have a relationship with another human being and a mop sponsor Bob white said Gabor we might as well start at home where your merry I remember I walked in there was about a year married a little less than a year and it weren't working I mean it just would not work
I mean things were not working well at all and I went into Bob's office now said Bob I beta mistake
I picked the wrong girl again she doesn't mind she doesn't do what she's posted it
he said Sunday said this is your third marriage I said I understand he said how'd you like to not have a fourth or fifth March last year well I'd really like to not have to get married all the time and he said well let's work on this one he said are you willing to go to any lengths and I said I am he said all right he said you will do anything I tell you do that's right he said I want you to start making the bed together every morning
I said what I thought the crazy manning her downward
hi mom he wants me to make a
honor may be as well he said I want to go home make the bad weather should Marcelino but make it better be good for thirty some years she said the same to work for us he said you will eventually have to agree on how to make that bad nor to get out of the house yeah
zero
so I went home and she was in that position
what did he say because she knew I was going down to see you I said he said we had to make the bed she said he did not
I pick up the phone icon must Bob Taylor which is it he said sure girl I said that you don't need to make the bed she said really yeah so we start making the band together two weeks in the making the bailout sada Punisher one day I was mad
she said we still got to make the bad assets I'm not making the bed today
she see what Bob said you had to I'm not doing it today I'm just not doing I'm late
and she said as I hit the door you'll have the worst day of your life
it is an absolutely was the most miserable day Aram
and I don't have a clue making the bed makes your life better but I'll tell you I don't go anywhere make a debate you go over to my room night and bids are made
you can't believe the couples we work with they said I don't think it's working out Warner divorced I'm getting ready to leave we say we're going to go about making the video well
the other day care and I have learned and I think we learned this we just sort of picked up on from each other but we just come out of one of those debates you know we don't argue and fight anymore we just debate on occasions you know and we're debating just before we went to the club that night because you know you gotta look good when you go to club they say Hey this is all we're good for you news about killer in the car you know
the old days
this way she said it she said if they only knew who you really were
I wanna say yeah me too
we walked in here for some reason we don't mean it was a speakers made and we were stand there we were not sitting together that night you know when you're debating you don't sit at the same table
and when the meeting was are we all close in a normal usual manner when you close the usual manner that you did when it came to the partition please forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us I looked up and saw her and she looked up and saw me and we forget each other
and we forgave
and I will tell you every time that we're in a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous or in a big group in an open meeting somewhere and we say the lord's prayer at the in the meeting we always look at each other and catch each other's eyes
because that sort of gives me a ten step automatically just in case I might have been one of those bad boys
and you cannot believe the number of couples we have now make in Bearsden forgiven each other in a meeting
and that's the way Alcoholics Anonymous works you see the little things that make Alcoholics Anonymous work it's never the big big big things that we always look for is just the little things like having problems make a bit old okay yeah and they give you the goofy is answers in here to the complicated problems because it says in the big book most good ideas are simple this is our sample kit of spiritual tools and it goes on to talk about the simplicity within the program of Alcoholics
it is so simple that we almost missed the program on the case
I love that lady today I love her with the passion in fact today I think we love each other more we've ever loved each other I'm not here to tell you that because we're here to tell you this just waiting
and we love who we are and who we are becoming
and I think B. Khamenei is the key word for us because that's where we're at we're going through some new ships again
two years ago I entered in the hospital had throat surgery and they cut my throat they've been trying to do it for years but yeah no I had to pay the guy to do it they win to remove a tumor and I had all you people praying for me all over the world they were praying for me to do a prayer vigils and the whole deal in my church group in my a a fellowship and everybody else and they couldn't find the general like a winner for now far as the doctor said I can't find a job and I was my I'm a hero maybe it works maybe the poor work all the good work you should yeah so I cut my throat I survive that deal and you know the for awhile the nobody's going to talk with you know which is the only thing I know how to do
later on next year we're rolling along pretty good everything is doing fine you never know and I've never been sick a day in my life you know up to that point I never been a hospital ship there's boredom I was just didn't have time to do it
I took time out last year they have little open heart surgery
in fact it was a year ago this week I had open heart surgery I'm not here to tell you that because everybody's got a story bigger better your Lotto candies all of it to myself
I'm sure give me before so I had
no survey no big deal but I will tell you for me what it did for me is it was my grand opening
it was my grand opening it opened me up to a new consciousness saloon level because they lost me during not the operation they lost before the operation lost me in the hall and wheelchair I just drop dead you know who what happened they had to get me restarted again and I experience for me I experienced the thing called I don't care what it is that you think could you covered at this point when you get ready to go to the other side you have taken nothing with you but your soul
there is no U. haul behind a hearse yeah
for whatever you may hold on to your
because of whatever it is that you think you got
yeah and I will tell you that because the major share for me and and it's made a major shift in my life spiritually
we've gone back to the original faith that we came out of it and were involved in that church now and I like it in and I go there to identify a not too distant
and I go to meetings to become part of you instead of to be leading you and this is what I do now now calling synonymous in the mission as a result of my grand opening is to become a part of instead of apart from because you see alcohol ism whether it be self centeredness or active drinking always makes you a part from apart from rather than a part of
doctor says I'd run eight ten years five behave myself and do what I'm supposed to do and and I try to do that I try to eat right I walk every day and I do the things that I'm supposed to do because I like to hang out with you people as long as I can I really would you're my family and that's what I want to do
how does your early on that I came here and the guy told me about the magic of Alcoholics Anonymous and when I close what I would like you to do is to be sure that when you're here and if you would like to hang in there with his please stay here you got nowhere else to go stay here until the magic is able to happen to you magic is something that happens for you and me and we can't see it or understand it we don't know how it happens like the magician we never quite understand how it does the trick but if you'll show up and be available the magic will happen for you
magic happen for me on the way down here I stopped in Nashville Tennessee and so my mother and saw my sister or me my daughter who's twenty five years old and she's out there sampling the active side of the marketing program of Alcoholics Anonymous yeah she's doing advanced marketing and drinking and chasing cowboys right music can do an ordeal and we love each other and were tied to each other is a soul and I said I'm saving you a cherry when you're ready baby and she said I know your dad when I'm ready I will call you you know but I ain't ready said I understand that she said the way so she came down to see my mother who's eighty seven eighty eight years old
and she said could we go up to Papa's gracious own up to the graveyard tonight message saw her and I went up to my phone where my father is buried in Hillsboro Tennessee
we stood at the graven and I pulled my car up there my rent car and put the lights on that tombstone and there was my name and it was a funny feeling I had because all of a sudden I had a sense of the next generation to lay down
yeah and that's a funny feeling is what it is and my life became very important she said that she says can I sing a song that I just wrote for you impossible sure can baby and she sang a song called because you Love Me and we stood out there in that Christmas night with that moon Shannon and her saying into the top of her voices song and I cried like a baby and she cried like a baby and we held each other and I said honey I really do love you she said I love you
that's because of you people because that's the same daughter who my wife was pregnant with who I tried to talk and to have an aborted in my wife said the conviction to say no I'm not doing that it's against my belief system to do that and that's the daughter that I was not ready to have because I want to get me out of that marriage that's the daughter that pulled me up on the way over
it's always a result of you people
god will do for us what we can do for ourselves
there's little man and
he was walking along the beach in
very old man
in the tide was coming in as the tide comes in it brings stuff with it and it was bringing in sand dollars
and he would reach down in the ocean and pick up a sand dollar an examiner to
throw it back out in the ocean
and he would watch it for awhile and then he would go over further and he reached down to pick up another sand dollar look at it
we'll see throw back out of the ocean and there was this guy who been observing this little man doing this for
probably close to an hour he finally walked over that little man in the said Surrey said I've been watching what you're doing and I've been observing it in the city is
I see what you're doing but I don't understand it he said there are thousands of sand dollars laying here on the beach she said how how do you as one person expect to make a difference
the race down he picked up another sand dollar and he said it'll make a difference to this one anyway so
and I'm here to tell you that tonight as a result the Blackstone you have made a difference to this one and I hope I've touched you thank you