The topic of "Love and Service"

I I did attend Dale Carnegie

I did I felt

that will become obvious

and no there there there's some an old Greek philosophy that often

all in the interest of what we call politeness

truth suffers

sure

you want to make the

trade to be popular that's your business of course

yeah

bye Bish ishe I'm going to share the truth yes I see it I would love to be able to show you how it is one time I was smart enough to do that

all I have no longer that's smart

it says that while Tom flannel alcoholic

and

my home group is James genus

the harbor city speakers meeting in downtown Baltimore right near public market we have a but trump's intermediate

this is a full service eighty eight BTC

if you come to our meeting it looks like a U. N. bus broke down in front of the meeting that's why it looks like bill and and always been here I really want to thank the and

and Gina you know for a beautiful way

the person away and the courage with which these ladies presented themselves

it takes courage

we know that

not sure which

thank you

the topic that has been selected for me is love and service

with your permission

I'm a bit critical of our service structures Alcoholics Anonymous but no alcoholic has a right

to criticize AA

I take or any of our

physicians perhaps without

our free solution

without offering a solution I will touch on that very slightly

or you may see it as being heavy

just depends on how much weight you give to it

I am an alcoholic I am sure over through the twelve steps of Alcoholics Anonymous good sponsorship and a god I thought who would absolutely nothing to do with me

that is what I'm showing for through

I've been surrounded

by joyful happy people since I have got here

and I've stayed around those people since I've been with you

I do not hook up with a lot of pictures people who have a lot of petty problems that consume most of their lives there's enough for them to go around to satisfy their own desires they don't get me

you can see the memos meeting he's backed by the door I call them the fire marshal's

that is if the building was to burst into flames they would guide the rest of us to safety and I'm sure that's the reason they're there I used to sit with them back there and criticized the speaker to that shall I know what's going on back there have you been a member with the farm Marshall group

so

well I got a sponsor he said the sick ones first sit up front

I immediately knew he was talking to me

and I was sitting out front Eversheds and I've never been in a fire either

I guess it's okay

now

in the history of mankind it is not unusual

four principles to operate in various societies including Alcoholics Anonymous we're not organization we're fellowship or worse IT organization we are not

often in society

the form will eventually take precedence

over content

that's what happens

all societies have to be

Kalash

the form taking precedence precedence over substance substance

shop the rich

good T. attorney right

that's what this is about

let's make it real clear

Hey has one primary purpose and one primary service

what alcoholic you

talk enjoy another alcoholic may

for one purpose

to lower my sh you're my sense of difference I'm not

to take some steps I don't believe in

to take some steps I don't understand

how can you do these things if you don't believe in them and you don't understand them you must be willing to desperation to follow a person who has already done them

show intellect is not needed in the recovery process

it is needed in the execution process to say why you cannot get sober of course

but it is not needed in the recovery process

show if you're in a match like I was when I got here they said I was in the midst of intellectual seizure

paralyzed by fear of making a mistake and I talked to my sponsor hello did you drink Tom toward the show over years will we

he says it's a little late to worry about a mistake

but he was right

I live in a mistake for twenty seven years old son I'm going to be like the driven snow you know yeah right

so

that's your service we have

now

there are groups and structures which in a a which are designed to support that primary sharp much to show for it

not to be a substitute for it

and that is why I draw the difference

only in service you see him they got a folders of papers about that hell exists what do you service to Washington or some crazy

a whole bunch of papers yeah

sep

April work pay paperwork

the languages it she's people talk

what the hell that crap in

our service is to carry the message to the alcohol

sure there for me when I come well I have got to develop a message

the practitioner the steps to prayer and meditation and there are not allowed to stay in front of a mirror to see what a wonderful job I gotta go get a new guy right away

I see guys are six place cars coming to meetings hi I'm I'm grateful no you wait you're relieved that they obtain stopped you we grateful

no no quick where you're kidding me

if you would you mac man graduate I can work with your great we've got a new man what I call the G. men

that's all this for short of it

let me see what you're doing where's your G. one

you're grateful

having this correctly which

there is a life without bouche and abundant life

which

having that experience and that message what

right

why

what did you want to call back

that's what I'm talking about

that's what these gals are given yes of course but you know M. Dragonetti

I will tell you what we call a track but maybe you eat I'll tell you after the

thank

they aren't perfect I don't if you girls will take driving lessons on how to drive railroad tracks you she added

she will show you how to do it safely

that's our message say

no

is there anything

Jewish instantiate those opinions are giving you opinions

that's all only my opinion

but my opinion is somewhat extra experience I've been with you guys since nineteen eighty

as part of a couple guys you know

so I have some experience with their stage

what's the point top

the point is that what you experience people when people say well the service position it doesn't affect you

but the new person coming through the door

they believe your type of service we have is some committee meeting or district meeting

not I guess region you has better ones in Maryland I assume they do pray you do

I've been to some of the media is in Maryland well they have it our discussion whether or not the next flyer should be open letter size stationary legal size stationary

no I think that's over doing the tests at

sure

I don't call that sure push

I call it big shot is from

let me my way or no way

time consuming

draw it's not a I don't know what it is lets some sociologists figure it out

M. A. X. that's what I know

at eight what alcohol I talk into another outlet for the shoal purpose or recovery

we'll send out a perfect

a perfect fire to a bunch of perfect people

that makes sense not

what the hell is it get off the boat

Craig

but

here's another thing

I want to talk briefly hunt sponsorship

which in my opinion

is the greatest form of service a

British

sponsorship is terrible

well I don't want to tell him not to hurt his feelings

do not treat for your budgeting

what would you

I'll put it up

what you told me the truth

know your toes you step when you're craving I understood what that meant

you are the weaknesses partnership we don't move our people and the steps quickly enough

what up man a woman comes to me

and a blow torches or not but that is not willing to do anything

they get into steps now why because it's easier to move wet concrete don't let us set up

sponsorship week it rose to popularity that's not a spiritual concept

you know

the shipper motions wasn't popular they tried he was up here on the top doing a job on the top deck of the guys that they were making jewelry

yeah we all know what happened to crunch to what happened to

to my having a running battle Mecca he had escaped deputy

just don't worry about popularity

in a

the important

it means a lot of people agree with you that's all that's what popularity means that

that would be it here's a go order but I believe that the earth was flat they all agree right zero but just because a lot of people believe some it doesn't have any idea of anything to do with the quality of the idea

it has to do with the masses of acceptance

let me do it quality got it with the troops in

so

what we suggest a thruster off stronger sponsorship

did you ever in Maryland by because they don't have a workshop I love that word workshop yeah people come there

with thick glasses

Borch

we

he was when you were there to

this is not something to study

hello

your name shopping to study if you want to look down at yourself you know the good people I called up the run co group

royal order of naval contemplate orange

they sit back and

Ronco group

there should change to do our big book repeats over and over the value of action it doesn't say here are the steps we studied

does say here are the steps we are no good here are the steps we agreed with it

we talk

one form

Raymond or disagreement understanding or not understanding we don't

that's what it says

here are the steps we talked that service when you provide that

to your new partial and

what the bush spotrac Cup the please read I know all this crap because I made all the errors

well you should not wait for the fall to do list what it would do is Jack

due to the fog

he didn't buy into

and I did just that I later I didn't want to look

we do more much okay took it like brushing your teeth sure Porsche case good but don't again mark

okay

it's that simple

this is what we do

strong sponsorship god inspired sponsorship

but it's part

James shoemaker gives us directions

for sponsorship

I love St shoemaker I do wish wife hello

he was a classic al James a classy guy but he never outshone Helen when it comes to class I do have a newer secretary to

Helen's father was

senator from New Jersey Smith

J. Alexander's met

she was a thoroughbred

hello shoemaker

the classic at

what do you say share the post

when you see the man with the problem

put his hand in hand in the hand of him who has all the answers

go home do not stick around play got

that's your response

you gradually that your person become god rely

and remind your patients that you have feet of clay as my sponsors done within a hundred times to me

it is I've told men I sponsor nearest one to

three

the four five on here

just one second half points higher

the jelly **** in a group case got throws up met me

go home

I got

is it hello we are approaching service today working now

will it change unless we examine it no it's just my gosh

what do we have to examine why well we had the show call workshops one traditions in Maryland hardly anybody shows up

why is that did you ever ask yourself why

did you ever say well they're not interested traditions well

what do you think the problem is old **** I tell you what I think it

we take these tremendous traditions and we put them in the worst possible fashion possible doll

no one should do three hours of biology

by some upgrade which get they should go crazy crash yeah

to

that much we do this well I say we encourage may

representing

read like shaving

life enriching principles

by all people

this is shopping a study

people take up beautiful rose a decade scalpel and cut off part explain it to you

but looks like a pile of garbage when it not only

mmhm your fault my fault let's put it where it belongs

that's don't do this workshop bush's work shop a little work I was working on myself I was working on my marriage and I got divorced I was working on my job I got fired

I was working on my retirement plan I went broke

I was working on my television I understand you know wound up in a big hospital would know novel my side door

it was no architectural oversight

so forget about working on

god shops the problem

it got shot the problem is not for me to work on they won't stop unless I give it to him

what did you show others years ago you wouldn't talk you were busy you had the big easy's

it will look up you didn't trust me

you can ask for me to remove it but yet fixed it yourself

now that I have endeared myself to you have been participating in service

but I'll offer some solutions

which gives me the license then

to express my opinion if I offer an altered alternative

let's have things like this where traditions are put forth by interesting people

he is a good idea

Hey you got some experience with the traditions you've got some experience with this position

are you happy about it yeah I really like to do dishes the unity means everything to me before I got here you know I wish all crept up Hey wishing good shape I was terrible shape unity is important for me

I'm a terrible shape Asian good check you don't need

I need you

that's your first two Jewish community

it's interesting that's not boring by people who experience it

what we present we projected traditions like some some of my goddaughter travelogue for Christ's sake once you get a native

live there with him

travel

we have to improve our shelves from within and we do this by openly criticising ourselves which I am one of our sales right you're greeted at one of our sales

yeah this is what we have to do

we start with our basic service

where are we float in passing this message on why do so many people come here at least there's no problem at the front door of Alcoholics Anonymous there's a problem in the back door

we know from what I hear

how do you come

but traction

welcome to ABC

I was about four days out and not have some guys celebrate five years sobriety would bring him

well sure sure sure

it's about this is a jerk and I'm really going to change your

really

you know hoping to come in five years will not be a professional pitcher

get off it

that's the problem

no

we started meeting six years ago it shall Palmer New York wildlife market wet wet drunks and and all that bull we got no parking lot not

got no air conditioning yeah

St lawyers for

directions are

thank

I think last night we had a fifty three point one

a lot of retention of a year and a lot of

Virginia shovel Delaware and a couple from New Jersey

why is that I try can

sure he is not exclusive parking lot which is not

this is my experience

we have a fantastic message I'm not only saving a man a woman's right but in creating the quality of living

wow

we don't want to pass this on to other kids my god the charges would give evidence stuff they got actually does get right up that

what do you do you know personage would given the great hospitals I mean you know to get it going there's a lot of good medical pay what they have what was given to us

they give up their diploma surely what

I know four oh one K.

sure the work

what are we doing with it

are you a faithful trustee pretty get

a lot of faithful trustee for the kids

or do you have to be she's

here to help you see I am Tom

I saw you when he came out he didn't give me

don't let the things you have you get in the way we probably got your son of a **** and should top yeah but I've every step you'll be in the chest

Tom I don't think that you're qualified to talk about love let me tell you

what are the greatest expressions of love it's like gratitude you got a G. man

love is similar to that but greater

one of the greatest expressions of love

the wise man said this greater love than this no man or woman has then they laid down their life for their friend

now most of the

shallow type

things that are taught we believe it's taken a bullet for a friend that's a lot of crap that's which taught which garbage

the truth of the matter is dish if you're busy

and a woman calls you for help

and what you're doing is very important to you and your family

you may have to lay down your life can go help her

and you may have to do that more than once a bullet you take once

what love requires laid down your life time and time again

to help someone

if you're able to help

that is the expression of love it's a continuous ongoing thank

that's how I see

the big book touches on

in the

chapter seven the first two sentences chapter seven how many people why we have poor sponsorship just sit in the media how many of us have heard this kind of garbage

who's going to own a total body going to nineteen meetings a day of doing all you know

I'm not sure

not doing little blue doing a shot

well I can do is run sure on candles

practical experience has shown that nothing will show watching short munity from drinking as intense work with others intensive not when I have time

and just because I miss the point days he hit me again I love a a because they make it clear I love clarity

they make you clear this works what other ninety meets a day activities mail

case you missed it

working now we're back to service again eight three working what others

any chance

laid down you're not

that is what loves about love is not a warm cuddly feeling that's a fraction

well

I'll just let that slide

but I think there may be a hardening of the arteries in a wrong place that's not

this is a large corporate program

what is love

love is a conscious extension of oneself

hahaha

you may be getting out of your shop that's exactly what I mean

Kashish

we don't meet that was swept off my feet

well there's a conscious extension one shelf

for the purpose how much got a purpose to

he's got nothing to do with moon June is go no that's hallmark

conscious extension oneself in a proper summer Ritchie one Joan or another spiritual growth

I love that for love

Jever go when you're a kid and talk to parents should say

what's the difference between love between me and my brothers and me and some woman well that's two different kinds of love how about a parent that's another con about between may god watch another kind of love

sure all over the damn place right

love is a conscious extension of oneself for the purpose of rich you one's own or another's spiritual growth it describes a lot between me and my brothers and sisters hit me between me and a woman and me and god I love it because it compresses all of those activities which represent love

various forms of

got a great show five different words for what they got to fine tune down hill

some languages have three or four words from that we just have one that's okay long as we expand on click

all up there something that I love

the best I've ever read

allow me please to read to you

it talks about the compass you mention all those things

H. the wisdom of the ages it's older than a

if I speak in the tongues of mortals of angels but do not have love I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal

and if I have prophetic powers and understand all mysteries and all knowledge and if I have all faith so as to remove mountains

but do not have love I am nothing

if I give away all my possessions if I hand over my body so I may boast but do not have love I gain nothing

love is patient

love this kind

love is not envious or boastful

or arrogant or rude

it does not shish well it's own way

it is not your available or resentful

it does not rejoice at wrongdoing such

but rejoices in the truth

it bears all things

believes all things

hope all things indoors all things

love never ends

but as for prophecies they will come to an end

as for tongues they will cease

as for knowledge you will come to an end

for we know only in part and we prophesy only import

but one the complete comes

the partial will come to an end

when I was a child I spoke like a child I thought like a child I reasoned like a child

but when I became an adult I put an end to childish wish

for now we see in the mirror dimly but then we will see face to face

now I know only in part then I will know fully even as I have been fully known

and now faith hope and love abide

the straight to the greatest of all these is love

that's where the fish

it's exactly that

I can not do these things and avoid service

the service I have described

what alcohol

working with another alcohol

to give the like shaving life enriching shouldered Richie

experience

that is what love his service is about it is not the only thing

that what love and services about

but in my experience it is the first thing or the primal thing

there are many other ways to support this to happen

yeah many which

but this is the thing that must happen

in order for love to occur

the perfect willingness to give everything away

everything

in total trust

that he who loves you ultimately

we'll take care of whatever you have to have not what I have to work but what I have to have

that's a

it's very simple

that's what we're all about here now call holic sonata slough

all rights for others

let people do a lot of things that

well

there's a lot of unreasonable people today they won't do things my way

Hey

yeah

god has many faces

I can look at you

but it just says to great reality within you look at all the faces I'm looking and I see the faces of god god has many faces hello obvious do you want

yeah

look around actually because she cut his many faces many ages many genders

at the pearl beach one time to talk to mother Tricia

hi

there's a house in Baltimore I never told you guys that

I

they got some people who are terminally ill with this HIV business

and a real girl Virginia

she trained nurse will smart chief whoever help those people but she did some guy down there he carry boxes you know

she recognized my talent

and I will go over and do that kind of stuff they're safe so when

Mother Teresa show yours came to Baltimore she had some are nuns were there too she came here for that reason to renew their valves

that's true she was here

so Virginia set top my what should meet three so she newer show she took me up this house when

or not

Carlton Avenue Baltimore

well I've been there many times and

hi after three sure what's the toughest thing you ever had to do she thought

feature where she shared the toughest thing

is to recognize god

in his most disgusting dispatches

what

did that back be off like some I could hit me in the chest to back me back three feet

Nash's Flynn you better watch out for your arrogance

you better start recognizing guided many various forms

that's love

there's not much working with the sickest of the sick and the poor should report now hope to show the hopeless near there

they treated like a princess

that's left

can you do less

are you less talented or you're too busy

which got you so damn busy money property and prestige

you had that before distill all

question

what you think is going to change don't think so

the willingness to let go without knowing the outcome is love

it's going to turn out no you don't

he only got to know him who knows how it's going to turn out

you don't have to memorize a library just get a damn library card you can do that

that's left

looking at the man in a meeting

stand up by himself before you leave I know you've got some friends who were bullshit what they have to meet several I I'm as guilty as you I point no fingers at you point fingers at us

supporting you

what part of the week in this room

about looking for a guy

it looks like he's lost what a woman

whose shape a woman alcoholic the special shame they feel

yeah great here guys know about that

Facebook to talk about this with Josh

with well over her let her know she's not alone

let her know to other women

have done what she had done

and that has never been a barrier between demi god

there are some good you should

that's left

to love has many faces doesn't

sure you

so do you

you're the outward expression of god when I was drinking god talk to me directly

yes

I used to say some funny things

but as I got sober

a shame to use you to talk to me he doesn't talk to me directly anymore

shop I want to hear god I gotta come here you don't

or go get drunk again maybe he'll talk to me show more on

but I don't think I could take another one of them

well one of those delusions

Dr touch as best I could now which is gentle as like could be

I told you I failed to have carnage

but this is what I feel about service I think those who are now insured which should go to committees if you have certain feelings are similar to my feelings speak up

speak up national wire meetings doll

why are they not attended by the people who are working with the new coverage you could use committee meetings

and used you know the guys and girls in your area who are in the trenches with your new coverage you don't see a lot of these committee meetings you see some but not a whole lot

you're too far out of the trenches

you have a big book here today who's got a big book

the support issue

well you're too far out of the trenches

we need a big

we got a very good issue

today's language where where where

let me tell you two thousand years ago

it was dark at night later in the morning I suppose called farmers hot water was what it was then it is now our principles

this book is written on principles right

alcoholism is not changed human nature's not change over the words have changed

but not the intent of the heart

she don't get too far the check other trenches call you cannot hear the heart

but just old **** will not take over everything

there you go

lovely this is written

by various committees and finally approved by the ocean club service on a national level

literature has preserved the integrity of the a a message yes that's true

sweeping changes in society as a whole are reflected in new customs and practices within the fellowship bullshit

what struck

taking advantage of the technical logical advances for example eight members with computers can participate in meetings all right S. like dancing with your sister in

one

Alcoholics across the country or around the world

fundamentally though the difference between electronic meeting and the whole group around the corner is only one of four mac

have you ever heard such bullshit in your life

people

I don't have a damn thing I warned

thank

the

they have been too long out of the trenches

the trenches one alcoholic work would you FOR that's where the trenches Dr

corners kind

back when the fire line

that's where lavish

and where there is love there shellfish

thank you