Steps 10, 11 and 12 at the Carry This Message group

I'd like to introduce our guest speaker that we've had for the past month in August and it's Dennis's last week here with us and he will be doing steps ten eleven and twelve new dentists are real
I write my name is Dennis Robbins and I'm an alcoholic
and
we want to thank they do group family Mike and Kathy and
thank you for having me to pass on
mark this is Brisbane a joyous thing for me I I really have a lot of fun doing this
I get a chance to hear myself
and when I hit him myself I learn I remember
and I know when I have to do on a daily basis I want to thank
J. eserver Annika for riding with me up here and almost scared a man to death
I have a I have a I have a very big too many shortcoming I drive fast
and a lot of people are very scared when he right with me but I always tell them you have the freedom that wrecking my car you know I mean
you know so thanks a lot come with me and and and be in there with me all the time and of course my
my good friend time is coming up on this twelve year
I have to say much about town the county just does it
and that's what it's all about you know my spicy stories tell me it's not so much what a person says
the measure of a person's by what he does
but he does not close enough to miss you know
that's your joy was infectious
your job is very infectious and
I just love listening to you because
I carried that same joy today and I
has had a pretty much since I got here my sponsor told me that I was home
that would have to suffer anymore and I have
they're tossed if you put these two aspects in your life who come home the person he has a lot to me
you know
is just you know I think about my sponsor he's coming up in October these are two sun era zona
but what he actually did was he never really
demanded and do anything
he showed me what he did
and I think I want to be so much like
then I just followed
and I did exactly what he did
and I look back over it now these past years and I'm just so grateful so grateful that
god put that man in my life because he
add me to this book
and what he did was he lead me to service
and of course that's in the twelve step
but I'm going to talk about the ten step today you know not I just like to review the steps you know when I when I come up here you know and
you know the first step we're powerless and when I had to do was I had to find that power to help me out
I learned about my disease in the doctor's opinion the first two chapters of the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous I was able to identify
I must policy stories tell me read this book
a study this book and identify which you read at
all they did was talk about me I knew I was in the right place
I can't believe that poverty myself restore missing after being here at the time
getting a whole new on understanding about a guy that I've never done that that I've never really ever known I learned about a minute week gnostics
the guy that I learned about in church this is the guy that I believe today
just not that way because for
anything or any person or any deity whatever you might say to take me out of the living hell and I was in
and to love me that's the only way I can say it had to look at me
because I was in a live in hell that I will never ever one ever go back to it
it's right here
I can pull that it anytime I so desire
and hope god never lets me forget that hell and I was the one who back answers when I come to places like this around people like you
drunks trying to stay sober dated time that's one of the
and by making that decision to turn over my life moved here god
did that to really an action steps to four forty seven
now the love I don't know anybody knows by John John about love them when they talk about the first three steps being
taking care to spiritual man steps for five six and seventeen care to mine
steps eight ninety get a physical relationships
and then they talk about after that you might run into another dimension
you know and to be honest with you some days I feel like a minute to mention today
it is seven days when Dennis gets back in there
and I feel like I have ninety days you know
but you know I'm I'm with the ASEAN months about my program you know you know I
I'm very very honest and I don't have no lock on anything
I do it a day at a time so there's only way I can I can I can live this program
Bustos also taught me is taken in corporate the steps in your life
some people say work the steps I don't get into what people say they must process get the steps in a corporate them into your life that could become a party you
can you be on the line and down like a system he never lied to me
is that what we look at ourselves in either find out those
those
those parts of my nature that needed to
ascertain to gift of god of my understanding I think that does it
the three basic instincts life security sex and social
in a four step I was able to write write it down make a list of all my resume as he is in my sex sexual behavior
I was able to take a look and see how selfish self centered herself whose daughter had been all my life not just when I picked up a drink
all my life I was able to look back and really categorize all of my life story
and our service right from the get go
and the staff five you know we
Militar sells the guy another human human being and a human being as my sponsor
because he was so category shared his life with me
you know it I shared mine with him
I was able to tell knows things about me I never knew I S. I was a self seeking and I was I never realized how self absorbed that was in those things that I would never tell anybody online because they
some may point out to me the big movies if you skip this vital step you might have overcome your problem with drinking
and that got me motivated right right away I don't want to go back to that hell and I came from so
when you show me something I'm in you convince me I'm going you know and one of things that I can really
I'm so grateful to days
when I got here I was in so much pain
that all I want to do is get better and it was always what's next
when amounts that the let's say the printer whenever I want to I started to speak that's the way it was to me you know it didn't take a long time for me to get involved in the steps and it didn't take a long time for me to complete the steps
instead of six no we've been entirely ready to have god move these defects of character
an assembly S. into membership comes in basically this does the effect they will be there cause me to pick up a drink right away I want to take away those little subtle defects I still have the jealousy and the list of things to linger around me but it's a day at a time I'm not as bad as I was when I
and that's how I measure the progress not perfection
no in an inmate I made a list of all those persons at Honda my sexual behavior mine and and my resentments and I got that off my four step list and
I was able to make direct amends to everybody in in my life
I didn't have to go look if anybody everybody just seem to appear to write
that I presented me the opportunity to make demands just as when it was supposed to be made
I made a mess of my ex wife after I was in the program a little over two years I made a mess of those people are my job those voices why made miserable
policy has also been moved over two years and a collection on
some amends with my family made almost immediately after I got to the men step I went right to my parents right to my wife and right to my child
and carried out that that function and it told me right after that that these things these great promises will come true in my life I like to say that some of the problems come into long long before I got step nine a lot of the committee to elect forget stepped in on our step ten in
this entry continued take personal inventory
and we were wrong promptly admitted him down
to me must try to tell me that this is a vigilance this is a step that I have that is a step which enables me to always take a look at me I still have people talk about taken a ten step at night
well I have to take one all day long
I have to always because you look at myself and be look at myself about selfishness myself seven this things that crop up my life and to be commercially aware of it and have to put my finger on if I can't have to write it down and take a look at it
and it probably made it when I'm wrong otherwise it takes a very very bad told me I feel the pain almost immediately if I want to stop in something I know I did something wrong and I just want to stay around in the mud I can do it man to pain is not good
and sometimes when I want the pain to go away right away it doesn't even when I do follow the directions and I you know it made it to myself to my sponsor to another person my network and I asked god to remove it sometimes he doesn't do right away lets me sit in for awhile because I have the tools today in which to do it
have the tools in which to do that today and that
you know its it's something I have to do all day long I have to watch for those times when self kicks in because with me come back then you know what I mean and at least today my god I have an awareness
you know I have an awareness of it that's the most beautiful thing about planning where and when this is not the one I was acting I guess existed you know I was so sick and you think there was anything wrong with me
I realize that they will be talking about golf clubs to start doing the steps Iraq thought I was fine I just thought I drink too much you know I mean I thought booze is killing me but I mean it is that the matter was I don't think there was anything wrong with me you know mentally that couldn't be erased by the the shock treatments
or padded cell somewhere enemy noticed time away and just just give me a few jokes and I guess I'll be alright you know I mean
I found that happens it gives that little boy
and those who will say
because I always want what I want when I want only
I mean that's not social VAB nothingness you know and it says in the book you know it says that you know they
a lot of people just think promises on eighty three eighty four but a lot of problems has raised up to
Clapton's ready
Levin tells you of others codes
his winning graces we have ceased writing anything or anyone even alcohol
on most days with me
if I'm honest or most days before I came out of organisms and sees quite many behalf with everybody every day all day my mind was constantly in chaos I mean I was just anxiety it was just a constant burden of just to live
line before I came across my arms I probably was in the early stages of being a pathological liar
that's one who not only believes ally but believes that you believed a lot
you know so you know if nothing else I've made tremendous progress up into this point you know because now I don't I don't relish lies to to much and I don't I don't like the line only people allowed me
you know so it says here that
it we will someone be interesting record if tempted we recall from it as from my heart for me
this incredible
you know it says here the sanity returns
it is not something you know from being totally insane exhibiting insane behavior just about all my life
to now have the some reason the sanity meaning that can distinguish a lot
when it tells me the first thing is all right it's a lot
okay how finalize with me is the lack of me I'm going to go to me today my mind line
there is a minimum aspen still refers Gaddy said
often did you drink I said every days when you go to meetings every day
I'm broken I have broken my terms the last almost eighteen years a data
you know I just did what he sees that do that that's what I do and I don't know for some reason number make a lot of meetings I have it I guess your motion behave because of something I don't know I just I love coming to me I love listening to people of the missing people and you know says
it is is we we accidentally and normally
wow
well that's that's that's some promise me you know I mean you know I mean based on my life as I knew before I got here my goodness gracious
you will find that this is happen automatically
nothing I did
all I did was follow some simple directions they were laid out to me in this book
I'm always going to say in response always answer the questions for me he would never let me blame anybody
never let me blame anybody you know is it a problems in you until you find it you're going to have to surface
yes we must not to talk me out level for
because today I can't blame anybody I'd like to
he
you know
you notify the really gets me is is this part raises the problem has been removed
problem has been removed
gone
you know I don't I don't go to the store
although no boss
I live in a box
you could mail me the letters in the body that was a drive by the fact that it got mailed
I saw that's Pablo was in some of the boys
you know I don't I don't like bars I don't go around people that drink if I happen to be at a at a function
and people are drinking it doesn't bother me
if I feel uncomfortable Ali
but it doesn't bother me
I know the truth about alcohol firmly I know the truth about alcohol I can't drink it it's just that simple
and the truth about it
we need a cop you know we afraid that is our experience that is how we were actually keep it spiritual condition
and now you know scratching dition
I was out in them
I was at Minnesota at the convention
in time I from North Carolina was talking
the German this man I get a chance to see him every year as I go down to North Carolina convention reckons convention
and he was speaking at the young peoples
meeting up in Minnesota and
when would that may was speaking to young people slow but you know yeah it was a great message he always does
but he says something that really stuck with me he says we can't rest on our laurels
in the book he says alcohol is subtle from
he says I have to do today what I did yes
you know
I thank god for now only time I put my spots was that way
and I get a chance to go to prison every Tuesday night the last seventeen years but I guess it was forty nine years and I called him out of
he doesn't rest on his laurels the isotope bill ma'am thank god I mean we've been doing this for forty four points over forty five years prison with we will take a break no breaks in the
you know and thank god that I've been around people like
so I don't I don't rationalize what trick my mind into believing that I can take a break
you know and
you know he went on to mention how people hate going out you know people twenty five and thirty years ago they got drunk because they rested on their
they thought they were okay you see I need to hear that
I need to hit at every day I need to hit on a continual basis and I need to be around people who are constantly doing service
so now we have to get the thought that we need to do this
I don't get to do it and I can I can let them do it now I can sit back and watch
I think you know for me been in Fitchburg to condition means to me is giving of myself to never suffer the whole
that's what that's what it is you know I don't I've never seen
you know I I've I've I've maybe had have experienced some sort of feeling on occasion but I think the the the best
thing I can ever seeing guys look another alcoholic
you know we watch the day party eyes turn it sparkles you see the program working with people to be around and see people with they came in the program I can
almost twelve years ago
and they look at it and today my god my god I notice works no question in my mind that maybe I will see to me when I see the somebody else
yes the status because his birth condition is and what it says we just have a daily pre based on a major loss per to condition that's only ten place with the use that word maintenance
in a previous cities made the steps do not meet the steps of maybes of steps where I need to discontinue to grow
I need to continue to grow and assess every day
for the rest of my life
every day I never have it made here
you know there times when I'm I think I'm all right
you know I get those feelings you know so I mean I'm all right
but a lot
that's a lot you know I know I still have to do it have to do on a daily basis to keep what I have
and
you know it's it's every day when we must carry this vision of god's will and activities how can I best serve the
that I will not mind be done
**** my will never work
never exactly yeah
we're not close enough to get me a lot of trouble to
not a trouble how to tell my will yeah so
any time I will my life over the over to the guide is not condemn the stamina because now I'm so much better for much better for it
majority said about receiving strand is bring direction from him we has all knowledge and power if we have carefully follows directions we have begun to sense of love the spirit interest to some some extent we have become got conscious
wow
when asked as best as the
you know when I'm not always thinking about me but the case is when a lot of cases when I start thinking about somebody else
that's not me
that's the something else do it for me because all my life I was self absorbed with me
what for me why not mine
if I gave you some of those the consistent military
I always had this thing where I had to notify me
go with the bar made of necessarily
nobody only because I had to get my drinks when I ran out of money
so I scheme manipulated
anything to get what I want I would going to blossom time act like I was one of the major
you're right there with I have no money for you but if you spend you see otherwise I get angry see so many pages were not always
you know
for the other it was always to look for something when I give it to them
it happened today that most of the time
see I'm a keep it real you know I'm not no sane opinion and hope I never become one because I don't have one leave here
you know he says when we get to step eleven
we sought to premeditation to approve accounts contact with god as we understood him
Pringles analogy will force the power to carry that out
I learned to pray in an Alcoholics Anonymous
be honest with you guys when I was drinking all my prayers were help me god
get me out of this mess guy and I promise it won't happen again
it turns out to be laying in my bed
and today at today's call alcoholic paralysis
where only thing I could move with my eyeballs
I'd be laid in bed the only thing I've moved in my book in front of me
then after a period of time the feeling will come back in my body
yeah get up in the fall on my knees right well god thank you so much and can I go get a drink
go right get a drink
you know
always in trouble on my knees to my guts out and dirty bathroom bar bathroom floors noticing crap all over
you know that's it I mean doing it online
this is I get above my knees I walk outside the tele by ten to give me a beer
the whole lot magic at the OB and lime wedges beverages I didn't know it was alcohol you know alcohol to me was get drunk
you know heavy duty stuff you know I mean I told over to Vancouver run just get knocked down to get a job so my prayers makes it mainly consisted were when I was drinking was
get me out of this and I promise
I will do it again
the south was absorbed not only in
maybe the south was absorbed even in the press as I see it today
I was only pray and just put it is that right the
I thought I was praying to get out of it permanently but I was just give me that is right now because I really want to drink
you know that's what I really want to do that
so the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous you know it says
sought to premeditation to improve Akash connected with that which means to me that by this time I should have some kind of a constant contact with god
some you know some sort of awareness that I'm not running the show
somewhere along in the in the previous page some some spirit wear something other than me is doing something
that I'm not sure
and I found out that there would be times when I when I say oh this is not me
you know and I had to improve on and never were proven
by following some simple directions that I laid out here is double that
you know I would be honest with you I was out in no
I was out in Utah how's that in our northern Arizona I got asked about this big around the
and
I want to go up to
and that canyon the Shea
Bryce canyon
which is only about maybe fifty miles fifty five sixty miles from where we were
and my sponsors in the backseat with with
this guy's why he was the best delegate Bob
and when we were driving up there I had a clear blue sky he said upon awakening
I ask god to direct my thinking especially the divorce of self pity the sinuses of seeking moments
and I looked at
it invests in the big book he says he and I see it every morning
passable copy them you know I
I was
you know at that time I guess about seventeen years and I said you know I never said
I never is right here simple directions
I never have who better can direct my thinking
thank god not me
I need to turn over to somebody you know so since we went to that and since I've been back home I practice that on a daily basis I mean is when my first conscious thought of being away
right away ask god to direct my thinking
you know what I really feel if I practiced this
if I continue to do it
if I'm conscious of the fact that I'm asked to do it
then it will be done for me
and eventually does crazy thoughts in the same plaza where they are when you first wake up
slowly drift away
you know in in this thing is just full of career you know he talked about
those things about looking at myself doing today
examine myself at night with me I exam myself throughout the day if I'm uncomfortable I'm talking to somebody right away this is the way it is I I can't I can't see it would be too long some talk to somebody right away and then
I like the I like the southern you know talks about
the thing about our day we may face indecision may have been able to determine which course to be taken here we has got his Gration intuitive thought or decision
we relax and take it easy no struggle
what surprised all right answers come right after we tried for a while
amazing
amazing I wish I could practice it every day
sometimes when I get angry I I don't I don't relax
I don't think about that into it right away I cause damage then I have to go back and make amends for the damage jackals
simple simple instructions that I believe the president is every day I guess they become part of this I don't have to worry about those all of a sudden periodic angle moments or things not going my way my react
and we usually includes a meditation of the credit that we can show all throughout the day went on next it will be it will be given whatever we need to take care of such problems we especially freedom from self world
we may ask ourselves a valves will be helped the careful never to pray for hours operation
many of those ways of time a lot of time doing that it doesn't work then you can easily see why
self will can't remove self will
I have to make my god make my will conform with god's will I can't investment bility otherwise absent back witnessing it and then this is a problem
you know meditation I guess prayer is is petitioning guided meditation is listening
I'm not too good to sit still and just listen
I can go to sleep
it also so that for Houston meditation thing this doesn't work too well with me
but then I heard Joe and Charlie say something that really identify with and I I need to do more
is meditating for making me listening to you
you know listening to you not listening to what I want to say in response to you but listening to you fully
you know just trying to block out everything in my mind the country no would you say
and you know I'm brexit more more every day you know I remember when I was in there said Brad I could wait for the person showed up so I can tell him he was wrong
you know usually read this page in a big book or you should do this and you should do that self righteous behavior but basically meditation for me is listening to you
listen to people in the room this is a message from everybody okay here day two days ninety days or years ten years twenty years is a message from everybody in fact I learned to just listen without thinking about what I'm the same response
yeah it's kind of difficult for self centered person because right away I always I I I can anticipate which you could say to me already so I already got a response ready for you immediately and I I need to I need to work it I need to sit and listen to all the way through I used to have guys ask permission to leave wait a minute what do you just wait till I finish
and I said I already know what you're gonna say and then playing
say
analytical
you know what I can to get to the chase
sometimes I have to let somebody talk the way I
and then listen and then then respond but not to just stand there and say okay okay you don't interrupt the rise that we kind of
you know and it's not right you know it's a meditation for me is sitting still when I when I get occasion system I also have the standard a woman a woman in them
in New York when I was running a meeting of the system he said you know
if you currently going
this is the room
they say with me but I said why can't you just sit down in the which is
I said wow you know the training
my whole thing here well the thing is
I want to go to
I wanna watch McCullough Waxman come the big car waxes free gas everywhere I go back to my car three times a day you know I that does it's an addiction with me I'd be too which
but you're going to going to is going to a store he's the one that you just sit and be rich you
that's a good suggestion attract
and you know the times when I can just sit at home on my couch my family is gone
and you know I feel comfortable
so when I do this before
I don't know how
I was listening to this
in a way satellite times just to sit down and just don't do nothing
you know now I got to watch that too because I could go the other way
I'm an alcoholic yeah I can get that that don't do nothing to get stuck with a caption that moved
but I need to be alone with me so I need to be alone with god
I need to be with me and not not to deprive myself and and as we go through the day we pause when estate adopt we ask the right door action
because you remind ourselves we are no longer running the show on the saying to ourselves many times each day that will be done
with any much less dangerous Satan and glory of self pity approves decisions come much more efficient
we do not terraces for wind that burning up energy food here as we did when we were trying to arrange act assert ourselves
his plan like it works it really does
I mean the first people who framed is booked for its one hundred the bill was in the works they lived this
they said there are explicit instructions see
if you follow these instructions
it works it really does
you know so I try now on a daily basis to follow the prescription especially upon wakening has got to directly thank
I when I can win a match dated I try to just take a step back and take a look at the situation and see where I've gone straight
I do that on a daily basis why I love this program it's one day at a time some days I'm great at it
some days when I'm not too good at it
that allows them to pick up their drink I can always improve
and this is progress not perfection and this is progress every day for the rest of my life until they put the casket over me so I'm never ever going to get it right now I love the way bill and and and I thought the box in the in the frames frames whenever long get it perfect I used to think I was now
I think what I could get this thing down Pat
and all that stuff is gone I'm in this
the laws that the prison when they and and are
the only defeat may rest in peace he tell me say he must be insane
is also will miss thirty years exactly stuff every day
I thank you for telling me
thank you very much let me know that it may be some days when we do struggle with so they never have it made you know and then we get the check we get to step two out
after having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps
we try to carry this message to allow alcoholics and to practice principles in all our affairs
I guess this is the
this is the only chapter where I can really close the book on that I can really talk about my experience with
so about four months in Alcoholics Anonymous
in my sponsor
the study came around institutions with detox is sobering up stations in jails
now it for months
I wasn't really cable Karen any kind of message
what I did was I sat with him
and I watch what he did
and he says when you have finished when you when you finish with all the steps
he says maybe you can start doing this kind of work
at eight months
he invited me out to reconcile
if you say what I want to do is I want you to dress up
I said what dress up to go to jail he said that's what I said
it was on a Sunday morning
now I don't know of anybody you know anybody has a prison record and your record I'm not going to take you into it but ragas down
is an island with the main largest jail population probably in the end state probably large jail complex in the United States not prison jail complex
and before you go over the bridge one PM there is a
a security blue
where
they check your ID they look at you in the make sure you are right check the paperwork
they want to go over the bridge onto the Allen is receptions and
and at that reception center they check your ID
the check your paperwork
and then you go and you wait on a bus to take you out to the facility
so we got out to the facility which is the man's house of detention
we got there they check your paperwork
they check your ID and everything again I said I said damn Sonny you do this every Sunday and he said yes
any kind of had a smile on his face that he will be doing it too
you know what what what what but at at at the time I was unsuspecting no because that that's the kind of spicy ones you know and he said
you're going to be speaking at a meeting
and before we went into the meeting he asked one a correction officer if we can going to tear
and I looked and it was tears and people in tears when I'm blessed kidneys liver floors floors floors
look right cages
and we got to the meeting there was one alcoholic one inmate
a correction officer and my sponsor
it was the best meeting ever had in my life
because when I left that institution
it was a sunny day
I got outside institutions
and I ask god I said if you allow me to breeze that dated time
how do this kind of work I'll be committed to this
every day the rest of my life
and I have a feeling that commitment to this day and I'll tell you why I say that
is because the way it is hit me that I should be in there
there's only by god's grace
and I'm not in that jail or in prisons like it
and
we left there and we would do an edge comments disability which is a work release for people coming out of Dannemora
Sing Sing Greenhaven Attica this is a work release program we did that on Thursday
and after about a year old pretty close to year
my sponsored me says well I have another commitment that night
but I would like you to take it from me
well that became my commitment
so if your spots to take you somewhere N. Khanna drops you off
that means you got it
that's just that simple you know and
you know when I talk to when it is mainly on the twelfth in in in this book and in in in the in the accident and work with others to talk about maybe twelve step work
and I have a twelve step experience
I sponsor the guy who is coming up on I guess about he's about six to seven days shy of a year
and his wife called me about one thirty in the morning
he said
Greg is run around run around in the yard he's going crazy I got in my car
one over there
and take them up it was the man he said I've been using
I can increase
because he almost he was coming up short of the year
and I said okay we'll continue to detain
to come to
queens General Hospital in queens they wouldn't take a
I took at the Elmhurst they may have any room
I said No Way will take it'll take you a bell for you they take everybody Bellevue if they don't take a value out there to get the episode of station on Lafayette house street is a suburb of station and will get you there whereas will drive in
west Brooklyn Bridge we in lower Manhattan
the Javan up past ability says
stop the car
so I said why
he said my girlfriend is there any now mind you his wife called me
they tell me what he was doing but he wants to go see his girlfriend I said no you're going to detox on the ticket to detox and then once you're there then you can do it if you want to and he started to decide the almost rest farmers
and then I tell myself get out the car
into which you have to do
because it tells me this book if they don't want to waste my time with
you know and then when I got home about three o'clock
I had to go to work the next day
I wasn't even tired
I was intact
what's the impact
but I was angry so I call my sponsor and I said you know this knucklehead was about five six days short of a year
and he went out drinking got drunk
yeah my son said did you drink now he's a woman you did a great job
using three digits you see what I have to remember it and was very very paramount is I don't get nobody so
only a message care net messages if you follow the instructions in this book you'll find a power rating you sufficient to keep you sober for that day
and your life will change because I can tell you because mine is change
but I can't get nobody cell
I can only take you I can only keep I can tell you what I did that's open at but that was me that was me and my sponsor straighten it out real quick you're not here to get nobody sold it as god's work
you just here to carry messages if they fail that's not your fault if you don't fail
and help me out a lot
and that's been my twelve step experience mother experience as far as service workers concern was he's been just incredibly active
I was very very fortunate because I didn't have a wife that complained after my wife came back in my life he did not complain about my activity in Alcoholics Anonymous when I would tell I'm going to a prison with Sonny to speak one going with him somewhere we doing this she would just say go
go have fun
because you know to rent was mortgages getting paid the lights were getting turned out food was now on the table you know so whatever you gotta do it manages hello
you know I'll see you when you come back and and the good thing about that is regulating come back I wish they gone into everything ran out then I come back like a dog like a dog was killed between his legs I'm sorry
I did that for many many years you know but now I'm beginning to begin the level
about legacy seventy Agosto so about a year and two months my spots brought me down Avenue
and I have no the maximum security prison for sex offenses
and
he said I'm going down I go down there every Tuesday once a month
how would you go down and speak
and when I got down here
it was a group
and shades on date you've been averaging yeah that that change that on both sides in those twelve steps and twelve traditions
they had a secretary
the adage they had a coffee maker
it was a functional group and that group just celebrated its twentieth anniversary
and when I got down here
I tell my story
and one of the correctional officers in the access on the seventy seventh do solar cell and solar cells so I said yes he said when you qualify to be in here
I assume my god I didn't notice
I didn't know what
and you know if I really talk about my drinking yeah
gotta get honest I wasn't real nice when I drink
especially when accommodated due to drinking with the drugs I was finally
and my my my my treatment of women were was not really too nice at times
and if they had
done what they were supposed to maybe I could have been arrested for sexual assault
have to be very honest about qualified to be in
Mr grace of god
what he did was he said how would you I asked bill make documents but don't and I said I cannot become a volunteer said yes
and I've been there since the data
no now
not only was I doing that I got involved when I moved down to Jersey Monmouth County jail I got involved at the
general services level the World services in the group block at at the area level
and at the district level
and today I'm just a working vineyard
so I am just working at the
yes my guy wants me to do he just wants me to carry messages of love and hope in the in the in institutions
I can take a little bit about commitment don Matteo but these guys have
that I've come to love who please put my life my sponsors mother died
about nine years ago
Liam was like ten years ago now
and we were at the weekend weight was on a Tuesday
and his brothers with Aaron
it was early in the afternoon is about four thirty
at about five o'clock he said let's go
I said let's go with
he said mom I can help my mother anymore
but I can go help soften up the whole
and we went down after the late night
and to this day that touches me because that's commitment
he said maybe I can help a suffering you know I can't help but now my brother zero they'll watch
they'll greet people as they come in but I I gotta go I gotta go to prison
that's why I thank my god every day because he put people in my life
show me what this is about
at Avondale you know build build build down I say last name because he sees a serviceman bill the bill Duncan he's sober for nine years he suffers from a variety of physical ailments
he's legally blind
how how many operations he said the cancer Parkinson's and everything else but every Tuesday the
every Tuesday
you know what I told him one day I said you know
you wiped out every reason I can ever happen that doing this stuff you just wipe it out
you just you just blew it just blew because I can I have no excuse
you just wiped out every few seconds after not going just totally wiped out
and he goes with me off on the first and third Fridays a month amount Kennedy I'm going away tomorrow so James Ortega within a minute we have to we'll make
and when he gets there when he starts talking
he gets a quiet evening
as a powerful message
this is what he's been doing all this like sea goddess put people like this in my life I mean I can't I can't kick myself into believing that I'll need to do this kind of work and
two things I don't do
I don't talk down to no alcoholic
tells me that you were going up this
I don't criticize him
you know I was I was I had a confrontation with a guy that I sponsored today not to mess with me man you very very if you if you suffer from conference you know you you very I came to get away with it confrontational
I said I didn't tell you what to do I tell you what I did
US we have talked to I don't tell you what to do I tell you what I did
yeah I share my experience my strengthen my hope with you hoping that maybe it will help you but I'm not gonna tell you what to do
you know I don't I don't I don't I don't know I don't sponsor the bite bite bite by spending money on
I don't do that
I'm very very proud of the town within probably uses my sink back anyway
I don't I don't chase you down I don't check it tends to make sure you had me do that
it is not functioning due to me I believe we become
what we were brought up in a as I believe I have become so like what my sponsor you know I'm I'm not a hammer although there are people who are handicapped spots may and I think they're great
because some people need
so we would need a two by four said he
I'm just not the one to do it I just don't believe you know I'm not sure that I try to dated not to be self righteous I tried my best not to criticize anybody on their program I just basically tell you what my
you know I smile often
if people used to think I was crazy
well I got news form I'm not crazy most times I'm very happy I'm very rare especially now that I'm retired
so if I if I can give any you hope
just work diligently work high standards program
then when you reach fifty eight years old or whatever age you want to fifty five like Tom is gonna stay retired one forty five see I wish I would like him back here
well I'm fifty eight years old now so my time came when it was supposed
and I look back on it now very same job is about farming now pay me page hold autochthonous nothing ninety
absolutely not
I just did the footwork that's all I did and the outcome was always in god's hands and I'm able to look back now and see that when my sponsors said
to me when he first met me you haven't made
I'm able to see today he was absolutely right
I have it made think about it you know I have to do I heard the lady said oh I have to look at my feet
all I have to do is just remember
remember where I am remember where I was
I've never had it this good my Tieline
in my character and services been my saving grace
when times when I need to get out of myself
for some reason that works now I would get back into myself when I left the institution I think it was something that was really troubling me was really on top of me I couldn't get out of it if they would it would be really while I was in is in in a situation where I get out come back
but then all of a sudden one day is gone
I know I had nothing to do with
because of anything we do would have been gone a long time ago
you know so I just I just stay here data time and
you know again I wanna thank you Mike and thank you Kathy and thank the group
families been a great time what three weeks fully Sylvia for grateful which to me and
I just love coming up here in the north unfortunately this could have been a question the answer that I like to hear from you you know to me that I could help by listening to others you know I identify and I believe it into a dedication is the healing
you know when it says when she was reading a part in about only an alcoholic and helping out because of an issue
okay with these we have to know the they all got a company a
because
you know we know because we've lived
you know guy can have all the book knowledge in the world that he that he wants to get involved with them as well would have lived you know I know what you're talking about
you know if you're self centered and self absorbed like me and you just don't know exactly I know you because that's me you know you know the grace of god to put his old again
put this all together and so we can we can help each other
you know stay away for the first three one day at a time and
I just saw a
I just love alcohol tonight I can't say any more than matches local excellence and
I just got a whole guy continues to use me as an instrument of this piece of
to scare the message to the still suffering alcoholic especially in institutions
one of the reason that I love institutions
I made a commitment
I got a hotel god bless you
thank you Dan and like different run up to and Dennis would you mind coming back up here
we have a little something for you
yes
my name is Ron I'm an alcoholic
when we have to Kerry's message group like to thank you for coming up here sure
I always look forward to hearing yours to share just wanted to go to remove
you touched me tomorrow right
I can give you this card gift and once again
really
thank you