The Friday Night Speaker Meeting in Austurbaejarskoli in Reykjavik, Iceland

hi good evening my name is Carl I'm an alcoholic
I would like to thank you for asking me to come here and speak tonight
it makes me I used to do a lot of drugs I'm kinda nervous with people behind me
especially if you don't yeah exactly exactly I've had a great time here in Iceland I've just been here for a couple of days and then
and I've been kind of a dream of mine to be in Iceland I I'm I'm half Icelandic you and I can't speak a word of of the language back to my middle name is unison and the family name from my grandmother my grandmother's family it's always been a dream to be here and I feel I felt right at home after I got off the plane because many people in the United States often tease me for the way I look so it sucked because my hair is so blown out
where did that come from and I hope you're on ice landed in Swedish and so finally I get to come visit and I'm very excited that Alcoholics Anonymous very strong here is very very strong and and I love that idea anyway I yeah I didn't start drinking until I was eleven years old hi res
it's kinda late these days I see people getting sober at twelve sometime
yeah and they have some gnarly story right at twelve years old but I didn't know it at the time but it it after came an Alcoholics Anonymous and and found out what alcoholism was in looking back I can tell you that I believe I was an alcoholic right from the gate once I added alcohol because it because of what happened to me in the first twelve hours of my drinking what happened was my parents were out of town for the weekend I stole a bottle of wine from my father I locked myself in his study and I started to drink and halfway through that first bottle of wine notice I said first bottle of wine I I got this feeling that actually I don't even need to describe the meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous everybody understands that feeling it was just like
I remember taking a big deep breath just
I didn't know that I've been short of breath for the first eleven years of my life
but all of a sudden I
and that's the last thing that I remember that night was that feeling that I got and the next thing that I remember is I came to it with the next day and I was in my bedroom and there was a cute everywhere all over the wall of the floor in the pillowcase in my underwear I mean everywhere and I knew I was gonna have to do it again and I made it into the bathroom and I realize that people all over the bathroom and I slipped on the bathroom floor I hit my head on the toilet bowl going down and as I crawled back up to get my head back in the toilet bowl I felt that wonderful wonderful feeling that I would feel many times later my life and that is how nice and cold that porcelain fields and
and
I love that and I
and I got my head back in the toilet bowl and I started the he even and I made it into the dry heaves stage you know that
right
that part in my mind started talking to me right there on the
in my mind says this is all right we're gonna do this again
so so right there within within twelve hours of taking my first drink everything that makes me alcoholic happen
the first bottle of wine I got an abnormal in the book calls it an allergic reaction alcohol this thing they call the phenomenon of craving kicked in I lost control of the month that I drank the best way I can describe the the phenomenon of craving and in my life is that when I drink alcohol the more I drink the thirsty I guess it's just bizarre right I've got this Cup of coffee here right and by the time I'm done speaking maybe I'll I'll I'll finish that that Cup of coffee
but you know what
if it were a
I'm not going to after drinking this I'm not going to be stopping by fourteen coffee houses on the way back to the hotel I'm not going to it does not set up a phenomenon of trading but if it moves I if I put a drink or two any
it starts making all the decisions for me the best way I can describe what alcohol did in my life also for the feeling that I got from it is that is that alcohol did for me what the phone booth did for Clark can't just bone right totally changed I turn into Superman immediately
but if that if that if the fact that when I drink I lose control if that was the only thing that made me alcoholic well then a couple of presidents ago we had a Ronald Reagan his wife came out and had this big campaign up just say no back in the early eighties if if all the if if the only thing that made me alcoholic was that when I drank I lost control well then when Nancy Reagan said just say NO I would've gone
and I would have gone about my business and had a fantastic one in this
no not for me tonight
but I have this other thing that we even after taking a dear price whether it be in a day a week or a month ago I paid a dear price in my life from my drinking my mind starts painting the fantasy that this time it's gonna be different this time I'm gonna be able to control it if I just do more cocaine while drinking then maybe I mean I'm not lose control all sorts of things will go through my mind
and that's the thing that lead me to the gates and standing and that the thinking that alcoholic thinking and I and I got it right there that that next morning
in fact
when I was younger between four years old and nine years old my family lived on the island of Borneo in Southeast Asia and I had while I was there a contracted the same call tropical weren't right easily cured once it was diagnosed but it took about a week to diagnose what was wrong with me and during that week every time I ate I threw up and just threw up through it and just threw up a lot just constantly throwing up and finally they figured out what was wrong with me they made me drink a little Cup like that of some very chalky type substance I drank it done about it but when I was done throwing up and from the end of the of the topical worms my mind did not kick in and say let's try some tropical once again
I didn't do it but there I am eleven years old I'm thinking just as badly my mindset this is all right we're gonna do this again right
so I have a strange mind and once I started drinking before I started drinking hours this goofy kid short hair playing violin doing really well in school love my family once I started drinking everything changed out when the violin in came the heavy metal guitar want to grow my hair down to my **** school became a very secondary issue and my parents became the enemy immediately black lights went up in my room locks when on my bedroom door posters went out my god became Jimmy Page and Ritchie Blackmore in and my parents were going
and I was back behind that locked door going
that's where I am twelve years old and that's it that's the summer that we change schools in the United States from sixth grade seventh grade we moved into what they call a junior high school and a typical morning in junior high school would be a truck early for school not for study hall anything but to meet my new friends the very edge of the school property and if it every school in the state has at this end of the school property there's always a losers corner where everybody hangs out before school smoking and drinking and all that stuff and we would meet at this little place about four five which would always be every kid would have an assignment one day a week to rate his parents liquor cabinet night before and put in and make a mixture right to the parents don't know how much was was taken and you can imagine about progress at about six or seven of attending that jar around there with whiskey vodka vermouth cream to menthol makes dinner
green things would be floating around in it and we be handing that around
handing out around and of course it was the early seventies or smoking that commercial pot anybody remember that stock for finger lakes ten dollars a bag seeds and stems and the whole bit and we pack all their seeds and stems and leaves into a homemade pipe maybe made it made out of plumbing fittings on the screen or if you're really desperate that morning would be a toilet paper roll with aluminum foil and pin holes in it we get all those seeds and stems and leaves in there hit the lighter the seasons every popping burning holes in our clothes and we look at each other you go to school today like no no we don't
now is it this point that many people that speak in meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous often interrupt themselves and say I don't mean to offend anybody but drugs are part of my story I think it's a bizarre thing for an alcoholic to apologize other alcoholic for doing drugs while drinking
why would I apologize to you for doing drugs this is silly right
in fact the most bizarre example of ever seen of that I was in a speaker meeting one time you years ago much like like this one but a a large large speaker meeting and the speaker was up just giving one of the ugliest heinous blow by blow drunk a logs I've ever heard and I gotta tell you when I'm on a speaker meeting and the drunk a lot gets ugly uglier it gets the more excited I get I think I would like on the edge of my chair then I don't think I would like drooling that night
right
and at one point in this ugly story the speaker said you know I had I had four do you wise that's a drunk driving while drunk and the judge said I got one more do you why I was gonna go to prison for five years and sure enough two weeks later I'm on the freeway I'm in a blackout I hit the family of four they all wound up in the hospital and I wound up in prison in prison I sodomized men I was sodomized him well I don't mean to offend anybody but I did some drugs to
I was the only one that thought that was strange that night everybody at all go ahead and mention that
so
by the time I was fourteen
this set I'm like the neighborhood drunk by the time I'm fourteen and I'm I'm having problems blacking out tonight I'm getting all sorts of trouble and my parents are trying to figure out what to do with me and and I'm smoking a lot of Potton through a series of events I wind up down in the basement this guy's house and he opens up this hermetically sealed bag the most incredible pot I've ever seen in my life you don't need to be in that high times magazine you guys get that thing with this strain really exotic pot in there and I've never seen it but this guy opened up the bag he rolled up the joint it's like an incredible and you can smell it in the room even before he left and he takes that hidden
handed down to me about four foot eleven I don't know what to expect from it so I did take a big hit I've been smoking commercial pot my whole life take the hidden
explodes in my lungs and down on the ground barking like a dog I always call it getting high but I wound up on the ground a lot you know
I
I had a back up to him and he takes another hit in your face
and he asked me a question that changed the course of my life he said
can you tell any of this at school
yes
no no no it's fourteen years old in the neighborhood drunken on the neighborhood drug dealer I forgot to mention but my father was a neighborhood Lutheran minister
I wish he would have thought it was funny he
not my parents good good people good good people and they always tried to help me they saw me deteriorating in front of their eyes I mean within a few years they saw me from when they were describing the bright eyed intelligent young young child in just a few years later I mean my hair's down in front of my eyes and whenever they could see my eyes are bloodshot and you know I I used to have a vocabulary when I was a younger child now fourteen my vocabulary man
while
I called my mother man
but you see they would they would try to help me but they always blame my problems on people places and things everything that we get away from that damn group the kid he's hanging out with that things will get better for him they thought if we can get him out of the public school system to get into private schools then things get better but you see the thing is
I'm an alcoholic my problems are not people places and things my problem is my physical and mental relationship to alcohol that's my problem if you change the people places and things in somebody's life like mine all that happens is that I'm loaded with different people in different places ruining different things that's all that happened right and they tried to do everything they could and when I was about seventeen I barely scraped out of the public school system there in Seattle and they decided that Seattle was my problem if they can get me out of Seattle things get better they sent me a prostate to Washington State University three hundred miles away I spent three years at that university on my parents money and I got about ten credits at any given time my grade point average matched my blood alcohol content about a point two five I did nothing at that school absolutely nothing
when I was hit by the time I was twenty two this little story about to tell you we'll let you know exactly where I stood with my family now at Christmas time my parents wouldn't don't just didn't just send out Christmas cards to their friends and relatives they sent out a big long Christmas letter that said everything the family had been doing that year I don't know where they got that custom but they're within a bunch of people that do that custom they write a big long Christmas letter and I was twenty two years old I got a hold of one of the letters that have been sent out the previous Christmas and as I read it it let me know exactly where I stood with my family
the first paragraph talked about what my parents have been doing that here in the second paragraph talk about what the Morris children had been doing that you're in that paragraph went something like this our oldest daughter Christina just graduated from Cornell University in Ithaca New York with a master's degree in marketing he's now working for a large pharmaceutical company in the Midwest as a marketing director she travel to Europe this summer if you saw this she saw that her hobbies are this this and this and she's in the church choir and she has a very full life is a very happy young woman we're very proud of her our oldest son Eric just graduated from western Washington State University with a degree in advertising he now works for a large advertising firm here in Seattle and he loves to golf and he loves to travel he's about ready to be married to this wonderful woman named Mary Lou who works for this was a while ago mind you he's about ready to be married to this wonderful woman named Mary Lou who works for a very small company here in Seattle named Microsoft
you still there to
and they love the golf together they loved to travel together he's a very happy young man we're very proud of him our youngest son Carl just turned twenty two
I was like
it's about the same time the to
but my my parents came to me it was after one more wrecked car one more time in jail or something and they just said you know what we've had it up to here we've tried to help you again and again and again and all you ever done a spit in our face and so you know if you want to live that way go ahead but not around here please do not come back to this house please stay out of this into the neighborhood just go take that car in the driveway and go now my cars I've had a lot of cars ever since I've been sixteen years old and they would always start out is perfectly good used cars but they would die of alcoholism along the way I don't know your car's did that but minded this will tell you exactly why I drank if I were physically sober on any given morning meaning I just haven't had a drink yet that day and I'm a little restless feeling discontent just generally pissed off right when it I'd always be that when I'm not drinking right now I come out of wherever I happen to be living with me my parents basement or a park depending on what part of my life we're talking about and I walk up to a car that I've owned for awhile and I. T. the dents in the broken window nine god I deserve better than that now we're getting a nice smell the rancid smell of stale alcohol in the carpet
let's see the cigarette hot box burns on the seats and when I turned the key in its only hit nine one or two cylinders and I be looking through a cracked windshield in the rear view mirrors hanging off and I'll be driving down the road and some of the young guy with blades buying a nice BMW off to work and I look at him
just a little edgy here but all I would have to do is go drink for a couple of hours and after I would drink for a couple of hours I'd walk back up to that very same car now is an approach that same car I say to myself
by that sixty two Dodge cornet it's a classic
when I get in it wouldn't smell bad anymore and then the most miraculous thing I'd ever experience prior to coming out the whole economic would happen when I turn the key now after drinking for a couple of hours as far as I was concerned with like but it's like a mechanic had been working on my car well I've been drinking right and this this car to drive you mentoring look the way they think corners at seventy miles an hour I had no I had no idea that the ability for alcohol you're totally changed my perception of my surroundings we're gonna leave me the gates insanity or death or here I gotta tell you
that from the time that I had that reaction at eleven years old to alcohol with it with the what what happened to me when I drank and my thinking
my choices in life we're gonna be jails insanity that or Alcoholics Anonymous I am now thirteen and a half years clean and sober in Alcoholics Anonymous and the choices have not changed the choices are exactly the same my choices in my life are because I'm not a holler jails insanity death or Alcoholics Anonymous choices have not changed my life has changed completely but my choices in life are exactly the same
so I headed south I lived on the streets of of Portland Oregon in Santa Cruz California and Hollywood for about a year and a half the words are demoralizing in fact when I made it to Alcoholics Anonymous a few years later I got to tell you
that I'd never heard those words full incomprehensible demoralization ever used together before before I came down college none but I gotta tell you when I heard it the first time in Alcoholics Anonymous I did not have to nudge the person next to me said what do they mean by that I knew exactly what they meant by that to make a long story short I'm back up in the Seattle area about a year and a half later and in a drug deal goes very very badly it just went really really badly just one of those nights that I just wish we could not have happened it went so badly that I joined the navy is what I did he went that badly on my way into the navy I passed a potential test this should scare the daylights out of what I'm about to tell you but on my way in the navy I pass this potential test that qualified me to become a nuclear engineer
that should scare the daylights out of that then United States Navy we think thinking maybe possibly or anywhere in the neighborhood of of putting meaning anything nuclear
however they maybe take another test when I showed up there for boot camp and I could not pass that test it's called a urinalysis test is what that one is gonna pass that
so about a year and a half later on a lower rank than when I first came in the navy yeah
here's the here's the problem
when I was out there on the ship in the middle of the ocean I would look around and I could not deny the fact that I was in the navy I knew I was in the navy I made a big gray shirt I'm the middle of the Pacific Ocean I would look around and see the other guy's hair cuts I look at their uniforms I looked down my god I got the same uniform on I'm in the navy I can't deny that ship would pull into a port I would leave that ship and take a drink I would totally forget that I was in the navy and I would come back to where I had last seen the ship when the drug was over and sometimes the ship was no longer there and I it's a lonely feeling standing on that here in a foreign country going where's the ****
and then if even a lonelier feeling when you're standing in front of the captain of that ship and all these gold on their shoulders everything they're screaming at you because they had to send another boat to get you and I mean it's just
it's hard to explain I I if I look the best thing I could say if I knew I'd tell you to I
but my whole life my whole life I was baffled by I just want to go out and catch a little bonus right but then these horrific things would happen and I
and you know maybe I'd be behind the the the the the bars in in jail and somebody that loves me whether it be a woman in my life or my mother or my brother or sister come down to get me and they would look anything but you promised you promised
and I would say I would want to say to them
I know it looks bad now
but the other day when I was going to take when I decided to take a drink it seems like a good idea that
I know that it's hard I can't tell you what a good idea now now that I'm behind the eight ball I know that but if it
I couldn't explain it it's alcoholism thank
so this and I've been in the navy about a year and a half hours are you in a lot of trouble and this one morning I was driving my car into the base and and there's a depth perception problem going on there's a there's a guard shack or a marine stands duty if you can import your car to the base of the shown your idea and he checked the sticker on your car your everything's in order to fly you forward there's a depth perception problem going on they were so they said it was on my part and all of a sudden I could see the whites of this marine science and I'm looking down at my speedometer going like thirty five forty miles an hour I'm just drunk as can be I tried to swerve the car hit the median on the right hand side and flip up on its side I am right through the guard shack I can still see that marines on this big dive out of there
I believe that the marine was alright but the the thing that happened to me was that they they threw I was in the hospital for a couple of days
the most significant thing that happened to me there I was in a lot of legal trouble with the navy but that the most significant thing happened is that the navy doctors put me on this stuff called an abuse supposed to make me not drink smoke you know and and the doctors gave me a warning about drinking on top of enemies on that morning and they sent this prescription back to the ship's doctor and every morning I had to go into the to the to the sick bay they call it on the ship and the doctor would put the tip on my tongue every single morning to make me sit there for half an hour if they run into people like us we put it under a ton spit it out and stuff so they made me sit there for half an hour he would put it on my tongue
and when I started to experience there over the next seven to ten days
is the most cunning baffling and powerful side of this disease called alcoholism and that is the mental obsession and the spiritual malady that I had developed over the years that I could not function on this planet without drinking or the knowledge that sooner or later I would get to drink I remember counting those based on that interviews just
been about four days in
I'm on it use
now it's been about six days and
hi my name is
it has been about eight days
six hours
in fifteen minutes
I'm on an abuse
I started to look around that ship
and the other men
they're talking behind my back
all three hundred of them
have you ever felt that way in a
the only difference in the eighth we are talking behind your back
only friendly talking
then they started to think behind my back when people start thinking behind your back you got to be quick to catch on
and after about ten or eleven days of this I just snapped this one day might division officer my superior asked me to do a very legitimate task you said Morris while the passageway that's that's marked the hallway not I could not believe that of all the other men in the division he had asked me to do this lowly tax I forgot now the lowest ranking man in the vision and always in the most trouble and so I let him know how I felt that you obviously don't know who I am
he turned on his heels there in the passageway stared me down and he asked me the most embarrassing question I have ever been asked in my life he turned on his heels anything he stared me down he said
all right who are you
so later that day I just snapped I went AWOL from the ship is absent without leave I took off and I locked myself in a little hotel room in downtown San Diego with a bottle of vodka shot glass and I remember that the navy doctor to give me a warning about drinking on top of any states that son if you drink on top of that if you can get one of two reactions one reaction as you'll get violently ill
the other reaction is you might die I members during the battle of are going to start by thinking
I wonder which reaction I'm gonna get
took one shot and nothing happened authority had lied to me again as far as I was concerned
I waited about two minutes just to make sure and I took another shot
all of a sudden I felt tingling in the face I looked in this crack will mirror that was in the hotel room and I was like bright red blotchy and purple in places
take another shot all of a sudden I could feel my heart going
I looked at my shared I was drenched in sweat then all of a sudden I was like hyperventilating
we're doing all right so all right
I must tell you you're a very sick group if you think this is funny
normal people do not find it funny
about eight about ten years ago I went back to the university to get my degree right and they are just to get rid of one of the credits I I had to take a speech class and in the first couple of days they just wanted to see see about you know just randomly throwing people out to see how they were doing they picked me and they said talk about a bizarre situation in your life
so I started telling the rest of my classmates about drinking on top of interviews
right they were not laughing there were two guys in the corner though going
I've been waiting for them to show up at meetings for awhile
so then I took another shot and I became my late sponsor NEC wonderful wonderful man saved my life and all college and he just passed away last March fourteenth
he called this next thing that happened to me projectile regurgitation straight up and out thank god at the hotel room I was in the toilet was in the same room with the bat
but I found the magic of drinking on top of entities that if you don't die and you hang in there and that's the thing that you got to hang in there and I would keep drinking and I will keep you can keep drinking I keep you can got to hang in there I told her that's the important part
and after about one to two hours enough at the end of your free kick out of my system and I'll quit throwing up and it would just be left with red faced hyperventilating and sweating not a target I'm alright with that
right on top of enemy for seven months I got very very sick I wound up in a hospital many times my second to Mike to look my last drunk I was left for dead in a motel parking lot it was one of those mornings you know I hated those mornings where you do you the last thing he remembers you're out on the street drunk and then the next thing you know there's these bright lights and these doctors with the master room and they they got these tools in their work and you always I would I would come to us
one of those bad night or that or I hated the mornings are coming soon you're in the hospital you got all that charcoal around your face from them pumping your stomach that's another sign another bad night right I hated those ones and that morning they had to do reconstructive surgery on my face they had to reset my jaw it was sent over here that to reset it and wire it shut my head twenty six stitches down my face they did some plastic surgery on it about eight months after that too they did a very very good job but you can still see like parts of it and around my mouth so
my last night of drinking or being lead out of San Diego jail one more time in hand because I hated those mornings also when the handcuffs were extra tight it means you're a real jerk the night before right and they bring you back to the ship by the shore patrol that the military police for bringing me back to the ship and the orders have been processed on me and the office of the deck what is our McKinney said stop I I've been given orders not to accept this loser onto our ship we're tired of him and hit the orders are bad conduct discharge ninety days in the brick and he said or and then he got sort of this disgusted look on his face or according to the uniform code of military justice that military law we have to offer him a treatment first
and I remember him having to discuss it look in my division officer came up and god bless that man he he took me from them and threw me into a car and took me up to the treatment center and I was still in handcuffs to the military police had to go to and they took me into this treatment center they locked the door behind me they took the handcuffs off me and there I was now I didn't even think you know it wasn't one of those days where I thought you know what I mean a lot of trouble maybe I should get sober and go to treatment it was just sort of like an interruption in the middle of a drunk and there I am I
right now I remember the feeling was you know Hey I just got a lot of the enemies out of my system man it's it's now good drinking time is what it is right that was the kind of the feeling and I and I mean this treatment center and everybody that showed up in that same week from various bases from the west side of the United States all came to the front all military personnel the got into trouble in the same week
that showed up there we're all going to go through this forty five day thing together
and on about the third day were in this group therapy session the counselor looking out for us we have not been assigned are small groups yet in our specific counselor but they're all of us all thirty five is when this large room and we're all just kind of sitting there nobody is happy to be there with arms folded looking down on the floor and this one guy his name was taco you're from some other base somewhere he raises hand he said I hear I'm supposed to be rigorously honest if I if I'm supposed to be able to stay here councillor no yes yes yes if your well I I need you guys to know that my real name is not pocket that's just a street name that I've had ever since I've been a young kid and my real name is Randy I want you guys to my new friends to call me Randy if you will and we all kind of look up from the floor for a second ago great nice to meet you Randy and we look back on the floor later that afternoon
the staff parades Randy in front of us and they slap a gold name tag on a Wednesday for his honesty Randy is now whenever staff is not around Randy is in charge of the floor
so we hated him immediately this guy was the one that was going to turn this in for smoking out the bathroom window or or not making our beds right we hated right
on about the seventh day they took us all to our first meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous at least it was my first meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous just earlier in the day they read it they they told us everybody in civilian clothes in the parking lot six PM so we're out there in about five white vans pull up they start calling off names to get into into one van in about maybe eight of us in the van and off we go
and the next thing I know I'm in a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous I've never been to a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous before I didn't know what to expect all I know is that I'm I'm sitting in the back row with all the other sailors are there and and then they start doing the reading and then I I imagine they read chapter three and chapter five and then they started sharing it with the participation and I didn't know there were different types of meetings at their participation meeting there were steps that either book study and speakers because I didn't know that all I know is that about ten to twelve people shared for three to five minutes
and I believe that that night I heard the message of Alcoholics Anonymous the way any newcomer supposed to hear
because I heard these two things I heard a lot of things they said a lot of things but I heard these two things and as they were as they were talking I I got this feeling like oh my god
they know
they know
I don't know what it is that they know that I think I know but they know
and I heard these two things that I think any newcomer supposed to here in the meetings of Alcoholics none of them in the big book when they tell us in in working with others they want to make sure that these two things you come across and that is what happens to us when we do drink and what happens to us when we try not to drink the physical allergy and the mental obsession right and I heard those things said in various ways I'll never forget this one guy who described in the alcoholic mind in that mental obsession he got he got called on he walked out of the way the front he introduced himself he said one sentence and he sat down he said my name's Frank I'm an alcoholic my mind would have killed my body a long time ago except that needed for transportation
like
well
all followed him all the way back to see like you're some sort of deity or something or
the next night we went to another meeting I got very confused at this meeting everybody at this meeting we're talking about something called a drug of choice he was a well my drug of choice it isn't somebody off of it well my drug of choice is now sitting there thinking was I supposed to be choosing out there
do you want me to choose now what what are they talking about
the next morning back to the treatments and I ask the counselor her name was merry whatever they wanted inside and non alcoholic but very devoted to working with alcoholics it's a strange thing right we we all work with each other because we have to save our lives but she was not a holic and she was very devoted to what you maybe like Dr silk with a non alcoholic who loved us for some reason I'll always remember this woman and she
I after merry last night in the meeting they were talking about something called a drug of choice what do they mean by that he said Carl let's play a game and I'm like eight days into this thing I'm still hallucinating right into it still seeing things floating through the air and that she got
let's play a game okay he said it
let's say Carl I walked into this room and I had a trade in on that tray I had a bottle of Jack Daniels and out of cocaine and an ounce of Thai sticks which one would you take it I started to drool immediately that Hong
I said I didn't
he started snapping things settle down my eyes sort of refocus she goes you can only have one which one would you take so I thought for a second I said well I guess I take the ounce of cocaine he said well then maybe cocaine is your drug of choice do you understand now I said no
she said what's the problem I said well merry the only reason I take the I out to cocaine over over the other two is because well I take that off the cocaine I get the hell out of here when I sell a quarter round now I have enough money to buy a quarter pounder tactics and a case of Jack Daniels that's what I would do
yeah whatever was going on
whatever was going on that morning I learned something very valuable that I needed to know about Alcoholics Anonymous that morning and that is what is a sobriety date right now I didn't know that I learned it that day I just know that later on in my life life I look back and go you know what I am very glad I've never been confused on that they're in the United States sometimes it may be here to people think that there's different sobriety dates on on things like I I work with a lot of new people and they don't see a guy that I've seen around for a while in my home group and I go to gym Hey good to see how long you got every once in awhile I hear something like this well my drinking sobriety date is January fourth my pot clean date is may third I blew my methamphetamine speed date last night right juggling three different sobriety date I'm very glad that I learned is one sobriety date now if you're doing that please keep coming back right but I gotta tell you don't get to take the sobriety chips in Alcoholics Anonymous if you're doing a little social heroin in between a a meeting
no no no no
but we do if you do it please keep coming back
the funniest thing I've ever heard about sobriety dates with the same scenario I've seen this guy around my home group for awhile and I chatted with him every once in awhile and I found this one right now okay good to see how long you got now and he said well I had ninety days but I drank last night so now I have eighty nine it
I don't quite know what to say about that were brilliant thank you
I think that sort of falls in the same category as being down to Mexico and looking at the tequila going without affecting my U. S. sobriety date
maybe I have a different year mainland sobriety date than here on I
maybe if I go to Westman island I can get a different variety
anyway after forty five days to let us all out of the treatment center all thirty five you get out in the last couple of a
everyone is out on a Friday on on the Wednesday they gather all thirty five is that
I got the biggest meanest council to come up and he talked he scared us all down and we're all like
and he stared at all of its many spoken he said
you thirty five have been through one of the finest treatment centers in the world for alcoholism and drug addiction in fact this is the treatment center the Betty Ford went through and then she started her treatment centers modeled exactly after the treatment center and we've been here for many many years and are statistics through the years have shown that out of you thirty five only one of you will stay continuously sober from this day forward many of you will die go insane wind up in prison many of you will relax once twice maybe twenty times and then make it back in the long term sobriety but our statistics for the years of phone is that only one of you will stay continuously sober from this day forward
and if you thought it was quite before he said that now you could hear a pin drop in that room rolling
the only thing you could hear with me going Scheck
because I knew of only one of us we're gonna make it it wasn't going to be me
we all knew who is going to be it's going to be Randy over here
by now he's the poster boy of the treatment center
he writing he's writing long papers on acceptance already with all the footnotes and paid for forty four fifty two doctor
I've already read that I just want to throw in this interjection of you guys read paid for doctor alcoholic addict doctor Paul you guys read that on acceptance I don't know if word has come to Iceland yet but he died about a month ago I was at his memorial just about a week and a half ago the wonderful wonderful man uniform read that read that if you want to hear the last alive man whose story was in the big book
anyway
so on this Friday let us all out
in there we're going to
there's about four or five or stand in the front can I go about five minutes longer is that okay
yeah okay because I'm running out of time
about four or five or standing on the front doorstep to the treatment center R. C. bags are feeding their
and this one and we're we're we're nervous I mean I'm looking at the fence and every military base on the other side of the fence there's the sleazy sleazy bars my favorite kind your mama's anchor lounge right the woman woman behind the counter at big arms bigger than my legs with big tattoos on it right now and they just love sailors that have these paychecks and other types of bars where you can smell the bathroom from the sidewalk outside you know but after a few drinks I'm in there I just love
right and I'm looking at the lights you know that the neon lights are and most of our missing and I
and I'm standing on the doorstep of the treatment center looking out dancing home
you're gonna stand there about four or five years and then all of a sudden one that points the other edge of the parking there's a car coming slowly towards it and that one guy points he says is that Randy in that car and we look
maybe he got out earlier than I for turning in that gold name tag
you got close to that another fellow that he's drinking already we look a little bit closer oh my god absolutely he's just finishing off the pine you wrote right bias rolled down the window throws the empty right at our feet crashed we look up he's giving us all the finger and nothing right off
I guess his name with posco again I don't know
next thing I remember is that I showed up in a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous the Friday night gong show meeting the collagen in the north into San Diego and yeah he did you guys ever see the gong show here now than it would to joke with making sense right
but I'm sitting in the back of this meeting and the truth about my life at that point is on forty five days without a drink or a drug I've got a lot of information and I'm in better physical condition than I've been in since I've been a young teenager
but you know what there have been no spiritual awakening spiritual experience or personality change sufficient to bring about recovery from alcoholism I just had information I was feeling better and I have forty five days now if there's ever a turning point in my life it was right there that night in that meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous nine sit in the back all I ever wore whenever I left the base or stop by gas station put on my other uniform I put on the black leather pants black leather jacket black tank top the big black boots I stopped by to get my hair stand straight up and I put on the long dangling earrings and I'd wear sunglasses at night a friend of mine told me at that point I was suffering from what he called I. R. S. problems it's imaginary rockstars what that is
now if I was if I was a highly paid musician or I had a motorcycle maybe makes sense but I'm not good at all and I've seen the back of this meeting and one guy that night he leans over me said Hey
you and this guy was operating his primary purpose that night looking for a new guy and he's always had had never seen it before what do you do it I said and got out of the navy treatment center I don't know what I'm doing his eyes went paying big smile across his face you look like a fisherman's landing the big fish
I didn't know there were guys Navajo it's known as the troll around looking for new guys that don't know what they're doing right now we can fight each other no he's not he's not
right but there is something that this guy was really happy to meet me and I didn't know why I do know now after I found out later this guy
he was a couple of years so we're not all it's not doing the drill how to sponsor working step had commitments but this guy's girlfriend had left him the night before for one of his friends so here's one what to do with his weekend homicide suicide get loaded or grab this newcomer we went to like eighteen meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous meeting after meeting after meeting and this guy was crazy over this woman all weekend right you throw in the patches on his car in between meetings you start driving you start yelling at me you gotta go to meeting you got to read the book damn
I didn't know I didn't know what I was getting a very early introduction to your typical a a relationship break up is what I was getting
but I'm very very glad that this man had taken the steps of Alcoholics Anonymous because he knew what his solution to his pain was out of self out of self out of self he understood that because he'd worked the Stephanopoulos noted that a power greater than yourself and understood he can tap in to the power grid installed by interacting with other alcoholics especially if he's there to be of service to me right I didn't know that he was helping me not because I was alcoholic he was helping me because he was alcohol right and I didn't understand that concept at the time but I'm very very glad that man that night new
and then we went to lots and lots of meetings that weekend I learned something very very valuable about how we go to meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous you guys ever watch American football over here
never mind you guys might but in the end I'm not correlated to a foot American football game and this is how they how they play the game that they they'll make one play but they know how to lock in the make a plan and do one play in the know how to lock in a whisper and make a new plan and then they'll do one play that's exactly what we do here in Alcoholics Anonymous writing going to meetings what you know we we run in here and we had a lot and we go remember bottling mainly different from our fellow right and we go out there for one day and we do a little of this we messed up over here sixty here we run back in here and we had a lot to remember borrowing millions of my fellow yes we didn't break in we try another day and we do this we run back in we had a lot number bombing only different I fell and just before we break some guy in the corner might go Hey wait wait before we break I've been here for six months I'm broken I'm bored what do I do some more time say get a job right there in the trial of this
and I've got to remember that I'm bodily mentally different from my fellows out there but bodily mentally similar to you in here right I've it's just we talk about being badly mentally different from them but we I I have to remember them bodily mentally similar to you it in here and we can have a lot of different backgrounds right we can have different family backgrounds some of it we a lot of us could have different religious backgrounds different different upbringing and different experience and stuff but if you be alcoholic I'm just like you and if I want to survive this disease I have to do what you that are being successful have to do right I've got to remember that if I'm not a holic I gotta do this work I got to do this work in this book are I'm doomed to an alcoholic that right and for six months one year on all economic
I never really did the steps I sat around I go to lots of meetings lots of meetings lots we don't have a copy copy copy like meeting me today then
scared to death you know oh my god I deployed with this girl and then running meetings meetings meetings copy copy copy needed maybe and it but you know what middle of the night I'll be holding my cellphone
what's wrong with me
I'm you know I'm in AA and these people are talking about that they're comfortable in their life and I'm comfortable when I'm with them
but now you know if I'm away from them for like six or seven hours I've got that sick feeling in my gut again
and it's like a big hole in my belly with the wind blowing through it
right and this this other fellow on my ship the one other recovering alcoholic on my ship the ship had to go out to sea for twenty one days
and I was worried about not being able to meetings anytime you need me and ask them to the ship in the bottom of the ship the very first night and he came down to six thirty he had this book in his hand and he threw it down the counters that you've been a lot of meetings
have you read the book I said well is this the yeah there's like how it works we antagonised some doctor with some opinion about something
yeah he the thing is there it's six months of sobriety you could've said Carl your life depends on your answer this question what does it mean to be powerless over alcohol that your life could become unmanageable and I would have started in stem cell I'm powerless over alcohol because I drove my car through that guard check I'm powerless over alcohol because I drank on interviews I'm powerless over alcohol because they destroyed any trust my family ever had and they won't speak to me that's not what makes me powerless over alcohol those are things that just alcoholics and drug addicts do if we hang in there if we keep drinking and using that's just the inevitable stuff that happens the thing that makes me powerless over alcohol is allergy the body obsession of mine I needed to understand that many did I understand it very very well in my life and how that worked in my life I needed understand that act as I go for long here to times of not drinking my alcoholism gets worse until I take the steps of Alcoholics Anonymous and and fun tap into a power greater than myself and understand that I need to fellowship with you people and be of service with you people but the only way I can be of maximum service to other people and alcohol it's not as if I know how to take the steps and help you through the steps even if it's a feeble attempt at trying to help somebody else through the steps I don't believe there's any wrong way to help try to help somebody or through the steps as long as you're doing your best with what the knowledge you have at that point because the the guy that helped me he had fourteen months and he he was barely just finished that fine and he was working step one and two and three with me out there in the middle of the Pacific Ocean right and when the ship pulled back in he had already taken me up to step five and he had to run to his sponsor and working on the next and then come on and help me right he was making a feeble attempt at helping but he saved my life right he took me through the steps of Alcoholics Anonymous I gotta tell you when I personally went through the steps myself the first time I did not get the type of necessary spiritual awakening or or spiritual experience necessary for long term sobriety
sounds strange doesn't
sounds strange I did not get the necessary spiritual awakening at the level of my soul I in my life I needed to have a spiritual waiting at the level of my soul when that happened that happened over a long period of time as I made feeble attempts to try to do for others what had been done for me that's when the healing took place that's when I could look back at my life and make jokes about some of the things I told you tonight I tell you in the first few years of my sobriety there was nothing I could not find one thing funny about that damage I had done to my family the type of trouble I was in and some of those deep dark secrets that I had that I knew that there's been certain nights in my like drinking that had fundamentally changed me as a human being as I stood there and looked at whatever situation it just happens that I will never be the same after participating in that
it's one of those things where if your mother your father your grandmother knew you had been involved in something like that they would just die and you know it right and it's and it we call it a conscience and there have been things that I had been involved in that I knew I would never be able to to outlive or to be healed from and you know what Alcoholics Anonymous here folks there's not one thing in my life that I'm not willing to share one on one with somebody else if if it's if it's necessary to help somebody and that's an amazing thing of about all it's not after two years sobriety I got out of the navy with an honorable discharge there I was twenty seven years old I got sober twenty five twenty seven years old and that's the first time I had ever accomplished anything
I had never accomplished a single thing in my life and it to your sobriety I got an article destroyed out of the navy now one of my amends was that I had to pay my parents back to that bachelor's degree they had paid for they pay for a degree back there and I had just wanted it so now I have had to pay them back or my first monster his sponsor said or you can go get what they paid for so I I was gonna go to school when I got out of the navy into having to make other financial means I had a navy paycheck prominent but I had all that money had to go out to get me even with society because I was in deep deep trouble so I restore driving that little Volkswagen that I got sober with twenty years old had the push start the thing a hole in the floor board cracked windshield fender was hanging off and it had like this right and so there I was two years over everything I owned in that little box right and I'm driving up to Los Angeles to go to school San Diego about a hundred miles out and I'm driving up
and I'm thinking you know what I need to get a life I got to get a life I've heard people in AA talking about getting a life I'm gonna get a life and I go to meetings when I get a chance but I gotta go to life and halfway through the Los Angeles I'm like
right
I I just pull into this noon meeting in this little area of Los Angeles call Covina for a new meeting after that I stopped by my school and I met this man who became my sponsor until he just died last year's name with Eddie Cochran wonderful wonderful many diverse forty seven years of sobriety this man changed the path of my life in Alcoholics Anonymous he just one of the heroes of early Los Angeles Alcoholics Anonymous sobriety a brilliant man here when the very first I tried to explain to him my plant I just don't buy this new meeting but you know what I need to get a life I'm to go to school and work I'll stop by some meetings when I get a chance and he just started to chuckle in his in his very kind way he said school and work those are wonderful things for young men recovery from alcoholism but that's what we do in between meetings
meeting now we try to fit in between getting a lot
he changed my whole perception of what my life was to be like we was giving me one of the biggest spiritual secrets of Alcoholics Anonymous and that is an alcoholic of my type and I assume you're tied
that I need to live in Alcoholics Anonymous and visit the world
so many of my friends over the years have tried to live in the world and visit Alcoholics Anonymous when convenient and they're not here anymore they are either dead insane or in jail or they're desperately trying to get it again
and the one thing that I know about Alcoholics Anonymous the fundamental idea as to why I stay in Alcoholics Anonymous and rivet remain very activist if I were to leave Alcoholics Anonymous and take a drink from that from that very second forward the best thing that could happen to me is I would make it back so why leave in the first place
why don't I just stay in you know what this is where I this is where I experience god I can go out and and do certain things are and and worship god and things like that but you know what I really experience god is in your eyes other alcoholics it's a strange thing I don't know why it is that when I'm interacting with you I experience god at the level of my soul it's just that it's why I don't know why but all I don't need to know why I just need to do it
here's an example of how Alcoholics Anonymous has has really changed my life with my family I'm here with my mother right four years ago my father died and about maybe it was about five months ago I was asked to go to this little town in Arizona to speak at a at a weekend camp out meeting and I called my mother before I went in and she goes oh our old old friends the best man at your father's my wedding lives down near there why don't you stop by and say hi right hadn't seen the guy since I was about that tall but my mother asked me to stop by to say hi so right so I did that and I stop and find out this this man loves to golf I love that all right so we went we went golfing during the day before I was supposed to speak at this camp out meeting
and it is wonderful he's seventy eight years old and he's one of these guys that gawk you just putters along came along and you hit the ball straight exactly down the fairway he'll kill you every time then somebody like I take it a long way right half the time in in the water in the woods you know if you're betting a man like this you'll just kill you he was going shortly down boom very active and ever walking along he's talking to me and he knows everything about my life he's asking me all these pertinent questions he knew what university I got my degree from he knew what companies I work for he knows about these recovery homes and I'm I'm I'm running now he knows about the foundation that I started he knows all about you would ask me all these personal questions about my life in the last thirteen years and about on the fourth hole I turned to him and I say
how do you know about all this stuff in my life I haven't seen you since I've been a young child to go to your father before he died he just talks about talked about you all the time and besides I get the family Christmas letter every year
have a great night I am very very happy to be here in Iceland thank you