The topic of Primary Purpose at the 12-step Happening in Reykjavik, Iceland

give a warm hand for Chris Raymer

well now good morning

wish I was in the sound it is nice is you know this I slammed the dialect you know this is

this is great stuff

so many women on a catch on to this you know in America you know little funk well never mind we'll talk about that later

it's great to be here guys I'm I'm actually not as old as I appear this morning I I got I walked off a curb last night going to dinner and and like a busted my **** in them so I I got a busted foot this morning so

it's case giving at work against me all day long because I can't run any of you anymore you know some

he did that the slowest guy that wants to beat me over the head today's gonna be able to do it thanks some of you after our talks are gonna want to do that so I am

at you know the I can speak for myself in the other speakers again speak this morning and my brother Myers and that my good friend Peter from New York and I get a chance to visit with you some more tonight at that at nine o'clock if I'm still alive after this morning and that will

we're not representing Alcoholics Anonymous and I need to tell you that you know I work for a treatment center in the states I'm certainly not representing that hospital I'm we're we're we're three guys a recovered from alcoholism and drug addiction and we came up here to to to share a little bit with the end some of you cats in this room I it's like it's like preaching to the choir so many of you all are have been to the working you can you understand basically what we're gonna be repeating what you already know and so we're gonna talk to you about this tell you guys anything we say is going to piss you off and I am not a not a lot of yeah and it just it's nothing personal you don't even have a great

it but some of you have a chance you want to make it very personal you know will cause my sponsor said this for my sponsors at that you know I just need to tell you I you know I don't give a good you know what what your sponsor said I

I think sometimes we get a little a little out there if it works for you keep doing it you know it's I I have a friend of mine in in Kerrville it says that in in at the hospital she says you know if it's working chiefs to keep doing it you know if if if if you're staying so we're doing a completely different way that's cool and if your interpretation the big because different than ours Bhatia drop but you know there's a lot of people have a lot of people out there dying Keenum inspect stuff right there

I brought a couple of things up here and I'm gonna talk for about thirty minutes in about that I think it's pretty near and dear to me and it's

at the our primary purpose I think one of the one of the problems you know Alcoholics Anonymous I need to tell you save my life I'm I'm here today because because I walked into a room full of a bunch of drunks finally in nineteen eighty seven after a suicide attempt in in that in up in Lewisville Texas and I and I

you know there's a bunch of people that I don't know if they Love Me so much or they were just try to listen my bullshit you know what they what they that they finally they you know took cut to the chase and told me what what we know is the truth today which is the sense that Hey save my life but but I A. nearly killed me before it saved my life because I'm going to a bunch of meetings you know we talk we laugh about it around here and around the stage in the dark tunnel meetings when you go in and you know he's not telling what you're going to hear in these meetings and and a lot of people think that that's perfectly acceptable and I'm here to tell you it's not acceptable and and and I think if the the sooner all of us get on the same page the better it's going to be for a lot of us hurting people out there that need this solution there is a way we can recover folks that means the obsession to use is going to be lifted from us treatments are crap tells us that we're always going to be recovering and I'm gonna tell you if you're in addition yourself as a recovering alcoholic you might want to finish the steps you know it's just a thought

and then you can join the rest of us you know in recovery because it's a pretty cool place to be it's in the other and the fellowship for seven years guys and nobody will tell me that you can wake up in the morning and not think about alcohol or drugs you you you don't you don't wake up and think about it all day long you don't miss it you don't need it it's just that the obsession to use is lifted from yet I'm doctor I'm sure the guys and girls in this room right here that they're still

god dang I wish I had a joint this morning you know if she's out I wish I had a stiff one before I went you know and it's like it's like that's not that's not recovered and if you're still there you're going to benefit from this week and you're gonna have a hope with this and and maybe we can motivate you to do some things on your own behalf to get connected to god the spiritual experience Israel we're gonna talk about that this morning so I just want want want to tell you what one of the things that we've done in our fellowships

I was talking to a up a gentleman that has actually been spoken here before from the states and he was implying that are some of our statistic that we talk about our incorrect he's one of these old timers it believes that everything is perfectly okay and I a and if everything's good now as it ever has been any I mean any moron can we can just look around a little bit and say I mean you guys around this fellowship longer than six months have watched hundreds of people come to the fellowship turn right around and go right back out again and they didn't do that in the early days of Alcoholics Anonymous in nineteen thirty nine with our big book was published this is not a confuse the hell out of Syria this is a big book

maybe not by Texas standards or but this is this is a hundred and sixty four pages and this is what I'm gonna be carrying but

when this thing was published in nineteen thirty nine we had a success rate around this country Iran and United States around the Midwest we had almost a hundred percent success rate and early days thirty nine forty forty one statistics in any archive you look at at even the support of the second edition will verify these these ads the stats sixty five to seventy percent of the people coming into our fellowship we're getting sober and staying sober for a year follow us that's a that's a pretty good statistics right now in the United States

we got the statistics out of Dallas and this is from the Dallas intergroup young young the one in our group is some don't have one here that thing they sell a little chips little tokens we've been monitoring the statistics for since ninety three was the first first time I looked at the stats and they've stayed the same resolve all this time to two thousand three these are two thousand two figures in a group in Dallas sold twenty four and this is not scientific I mean just ballpark it but they sell twenty four thousand four hundred and eighty desire chips you know what you're with me twenty four thousand four hundred ninety desired ship you out a little bit of plastic tokens that we give you cats out I picked up a million of them you know

these to make necklaces out of my was just

we still see a convert just people cared around like what do you think it's a badge of honor that had to be to be such a slipper you know I don't

in a moment okay now let me look at look at the other one months one month six thousand one hundred and twenty three

you know little red token they states over thirty days folks we sell six thousand one hundred and twenty three of those little babies as twenty five percent drop straight down let me just cut to the chase one year tokens one thousand six hundred and twenty five

at six percent in Dallas Texas

that guy's best case scenario anybody come up with a New York is about twenty percent success rate may today worldwide

D. percent people coming through the door now what how do we take a perfectly good program and in sixty seven years drop it to the toilet

I can't tell you how we did it we had a lot of well meaning people try to improve this program that was already working perfectly well a lot of people put their own spin on it you know and I I I it drives me crazy Mar sent me this article years ago

in that I've kept it ever hear of moderation management they they was I don't know if it ever caught on here they didn't have never actually caught on anywhere but there

I got it because they killed a lot of people you know I got I got a lot of press out there you know it's vision for hard drinkers of moderation let's let's let's forget to stay in sober forever let's just learn to moderate which are like a hell of a fine idea to me you know I mean okay okay if I can't bring six core today I'll drink one court how's that you know but see if I could pull that off as an alcoholic if I can guarantee that all I could do it was gonna break was one and pulled it off every time and I'm not even in an alcoholic and that's what here's what here's what this moderation manager the came up with this book called the miracle method this is good

I don't remember it yeah Mars is grown and over here you can remember it this is it is it is the line that leads into it if this is a book review guys you can see it up here is a book review this is the alcoholic anonymous tenant that recovery takes for ever didn't make sense to these these specialists in brief therapy from Milwaukee

I can going to read it will take your time what I wanted you to see this since Alcoholics Anonymous is believe it recovery takes for ever

now where did they get that

they didn't get it from this book

so where did they get it

they got it sitting in meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous listen to people like us talk about **** we didn't know anything about recovery does not take forever

guys recovery does not take for ever recovery takes just as long as it takes you to pull your head out of your **** and finish the steps that's how long it takes I mean this is real simple stuff this is not rocket science but I'm so we're we're responsible everybody wants to take shots at Alcoholics Anonymous and we're a punch line halfway around the world we're a punch like the damn party jokes you know alcoholism and we've done it to our own selves by allowing this misinformation to to be to be talked about it with this here's the reason with we don't have the traditions in here on the wall but most of you guys you got a little book you can read him in the back of your books the I'm sure you've got the traditions tradition five S. as each group has but one primary purpose to carry its message to the still suffering alcoholic big long form says the same thing they didn't add anything to it we have one primary purpose

yes did I misread that let me see

no guys we have one primary purpose and see this is I will talk to live about this drawing up here because we're gonna keep referring to this day throughout the morning at least I will laugh I am

the the the but

this is speaking in tongues already in the in the Icelandic tons here this is

here here

what is what is tradition three state traditions three says the only requirement for a membership is a desire to stop drinking how do you guys ever in an a a meeting started talking about drugs and some old timers stop yeah you guys they don't do that nice and let me tell you don't do it in the United States will stop in a heartbeat you'll follow us because we've got a primary we got a singleness of purpose thing it says that we're here to talk about alcohol you with this they don't have any problem in the world you get a drug addict out of an a a meeting if they break the tradition

you're following that's the third tradition now let's go to the fifth tradition to down and it says we got one primary purpose so you come in here want to talk about your stupid freakin divorce one more time you want a quiet a little while peace and moan about that I'm having such a tough

I've twisted my ankle last night

is it I guess that everyone our talking about this busted up bank of mine you know anywhere you know what we gonna do you know I'm not in the list of the little sympathy I'm a certainly feel better having shared my pathetic life with you

anyone else been there is the morning cleaning up the mess that I've just made you know there's some poor alcoholic in the back is not going to hear the message of hope because we didn't talk about our primary purpose and I'm gonna tell you the seven guys out nothing drives me more correct I think if we had success rates back we had even is as high as thirty years ago if we had success rates that were back there I'd say we've done such a great job with alcoholic the alcoholic problem let's take on it marital problems let's take on your stupid legal problems let's take on any problem that we can possibly help you with let's do that but guys are history is fraught with people in the past and try to do that we got our information a decision years ago from the Washingtonians I don't have the statistical stuff up here for a bit at one particular time at the height of the Washingtonian movement there was over a hundred and fifty thousand drunks sober worldwide in this movement it was tremendous there's a lot of people get more well and what of the Washingtonians day they screwed it up I try to get into everything else under the sun except

try to help Bronx you with this you think the Oxford movement that picked up those tenants on the Washingtonians will learn the lesson but they didn't we had we had close to half a million at one time Alcoholics over the Oxford movement people temperance movement signing pledges stains overtaken but taking names well the Oxford movement day they decided to go south with it too now let's take on the politicians and let's take on everything other problem in the world and all of a sudden what happened the whole thing fell apart you'll have a tough time finding doctor movement anywhere anymore so bill Wilson and Dr Bob when they got together they said listen let's don't Laos this up let's don't try to fix the world we got a tough a tough battle with the most deadly disease on earth let's just try alcoholism I mean let's do one thing well

that's why they put it in the traditions folks and I tell you this is a fellowship of taking these traditions and and and and basically thrown up in the air and that's why our success rates suck

we'll talk about it Sunday night when I get a chance to share with you again folks I'm gonna take this so much documented evidence about what happened in the past and what's happening today in our fellowship we got to take it back one of the things that we're not doing it we're gonna talk about it I get harder later on this morning we're not qualified the drunk we're not qualified the alcoholic an attic and making sure they understand that they're in the right room we're not helping him we don't have time to help them because we're too busy taking care of your problems how many of you in this room of ever walking they will see how many honest people we've got in this room how many of you in this room have ever gone into a meeting and talked about you're screwed up day

good welcome welcome by god

raise your hand Peter

adding on to it because that's what we all do it and we've all done it and I'm just nothing I'm gonna say for the party is going to stop but it may slow some of it down just a bit we've got this idea that it's perfectly okay for me to go into a meeting and share anything I want and that is exactly opposite of what the to tradition says

I want you to stick with me for for for fifteen minutes and I'm I'm not talking about this this right here on the school board right here and we'll give these guys a chance to visit about this just a little bit you see this guy is a little stick figure guy this is issue man I want to introduce you all heard me talk about it on tapes

I got a little pens up here they look like the little pants right here in this it's got a little little stick figure guy got a little issue man on here and this is issue Matt listen lady don't feel slighted I got an issue woman coming out to a I

also if you can draw a little movies on these if you want to

if you manage the at the top of this thing we got body mind and spirit that's the the the three parts of the of the of the program and three parts of the city we had a three part disease in a three part solution that's what the that's what these this the circle and triangle is about you got it you got three sites this triangle in the recovery is on the bottom of the unity in the service as long as we stay in those three parts it treats these three parts of the disease and that's what our book tells us about and that's our primary purpose to explain to the newcomer what that's about Peter did a great job last night discussing this business of Boston all three parts I'm going to stay sober and I don't give a rat's **** what happens out there I'm going to stay sober because I have some real power in my life and we we don't have time to talk to the newcomer about this because we're too busy trying to page B. junior therapists in our meetings and I have to tell you guys just did the the craps got to stop I think there please great I would just prefer to go to a professional to get my back is this the most unbelievable thing to walk into an a a meeting and this is a room full of guys sit around talking about relationships but

when Y. and I helped when I want to go to the sickest place on earth

because I've had because I had a thousand relationships I think I'm qualified to talk about what is what's wrong with Chris why do you have so many relationships because I'm not good at it you know if we were laughing last night if I'm with you but all week listen listen I was looking at some new girls last night already have our children named

this is nuts I had a date

I'm gonna go home and get Patty I do bad I have a girlfriend in Texas right now is you from New York but that's where I met Peter and I and I'm gonna teach this kid I wanted this picture on learning ice landing you know this let

I don't know what you'll save the sound good anyway

you see the little ex's outside issue man down here and these are your issues and that's why they're so guys called issue man everyone of us in this place we come in this hospital come into hospital to come into these places are rooms were full of issues right all god's kids got troubles you'll notice the old song and that's that's exactly what this is about I spent years I'll talk about it more tonight but I spent years believing that my problems out there somehow affected my drinking and drug there's a bunch of you in this room is still believe they do and you're destined to fail you're destined to drink again if you don't get this one piece clear my drinking is about a thing called a spiritual experience and a physical allergy look at the topics this physical piece my body when I when I drink alcohol my body lights up like a sponge and it says I want more go with this the phenomena of craving kicks in and I can't guarantee how much I'm going to break that's the problem without a doctor's opinion talks about it that's the problem with alcoholic thanks the problem is not that you drank a couple of beers the problem is that you try to break every freakin beer in Icelandic

is that right the problem is not that you did little he didn't smoke a little pot you try to smoke a bail that she

and that's that's all we got to get done what happened you started using this stuff and you started say there's something physically different in your body that makes you separate from other people other people can have a couple of drinks how come you you can't see because you're wired differently so the physical pieces one piece and then we couple it with this thing called a mental obsession that tells you that you don't have a choice it is time to go drink it it it makes it virtually impossible to remember the consequences of week or month how do you guys ever get arrested

hello just fortunate I've unlocked all you gotta do is go get arrested I don't have anything else to do sorry not let's go get arrested

I can take a dog from a from a thousand podiums of never seen that many hands go up that's

the figure that it's good to see it

I certainly feel at home now I guarantee

I could have you got arrested and then and then a week later you got arrested again are you rather drinking again I mean it was the same hands up it's like what what are you knew he did you can't learn from your mistakes that's the problem with alcoholism and drug addiction we don't learn from my mistakes normal drinkers guide is about fifteen percent of us are wired like this in this world it seems a much higher and I'm Iceland I'm sure but the truth is if you did the math on it it's about fifteen percent of this island is wired genetically like us and the rest of these knuckleheads they can take it or leave it alone they get a drink they drink it they get sick Jeez I didn't like that and guess what they don't ever do it again

how many of us how do you guys ever drank into you got sick

this is good it is right at cemex Guyver should you read with it I know it

R. as in good style I don't we get you drank that's it and then you walk right back into the pub watch your mouth and say you got most of in the chicken I ate SO there

and it

I have another one

you know you're not even thinking of the consequences you know it's just like we're not wired like normal people doesn't mean we're bad I just I get so sick and tired of treatment centers all want of it we have an addictive personality no no we don't

I want to say this this morning right now I'm gonna hit hard tonight there's no such thing as an addictive personality there's some people in this room and have some character depicted by god you need to take the god I guarantee that but there's that alcoholism is a disease and you either got it or you don't have it you can't money this down was a because I'm an alcoholic most would be to talk couldn't work and set everything up

that's not true that given sufficient reason you can stop those other things if you can't stop you're one of us and most of you in this room and tried to stop a gazillion times and you weren't able to that's because you got a disease the big you're gonna tonight I guarantee it we're going to hit it hard but this is the information right here physical allergy body mind and spirit and if you got that folks ain't nothing about your issues going to change how many you guys drank when everything was going great in your life

how many we direct everything's going shitty in your life

how how do we get a lot of money

just leave them out how me and no money

great job seems interesting to some you're not raising Hannah so so we'll find out because maybe you're not even alcoholic or not see if your if your circumstances dictate whether you're not you're going to drink or not you're not one of us

I'll tell you that right now from the podium how many you enjoyed when you had a great relationship you lives with somebody left

how many when you set up with that insight and sister

yeah yes some beast yeah I wouldn't

we do that in Texas we check out the check the women if they got most of their teeth you're on to something you know is it is good to see it

and it's tough it's tough but you see I spent years I'll talk about it again tonight we I spent years bouncing around trying to get well by looking at my external circumstances Chris you drink too much because you because your work Chris you drink too much because the women you're dating Chris you drink too much because of it you do too much because mommy and Daddy you drink too much because you guys don't take something folks that's horse ****

and you got to get straight with it if you're blaming somebody else out there no I'm not I don't I just put it this way just point blank to you guys I can't say that that's not true for some of you maybe you're drinking because the bad thing that happened he was a kid if that's the case do some good therapy and get out of this room

we go away

why because you have no sense of reference to the rest of us which is exactly what Peter was saying because you're gonna sit in this meeting and try to explain to somebody that if they just get a better relationship they would stay sober and that could kill somebody

because that's what we did we just change from relationship to relationship relationship from place to place to place Jeez I mean that's a tough thing to do in Iceland Gigi I'm there's only so many places you can change to

it's certainly your tail

good I'm back where I started from regulate what the hell I I'm still drinking

and that's a little exercise with the little buttons are about guys will issue man some of you guys in this room need to analyze yourself and see what see what you're doing here if I'm going into a meeting and I'm talking about one of these issues one of my top why am I talking about it because it's got nothing to do with my drinking why am I talking about it so I could have temporary relief from that issue well we're not what we're doing is taking up valuable recovery time when we should be talking about the steps we should be talking about god

we should be talking about some hope for the newcomer

and if any of you are going to meetings today and you will later this afternoon with that little one I guess I've been he said I couldn't talk about this but I really need a place to share

the the go ahead and do it we don't delude yourself to think that you're part of the fellowship because you're not you're not a part of the program you're not working the steps you're not adhering to the traditions basically you're long gone after doing it the way you want to get it done and that's what's killing alcoholics in this fellowship we need to cut to the chase and talk about what's important our primary purpose that's it look at that you weren't sure

zero

when everybody will look

thank Chris for great talking not good to see you guys and thank you for this wonderful reception this weekend and I wish everyone could be up to Spalding from minute look at this crowd you guys are indescribably wonderful off a lot of enthusiasm an awful lot of young faces man back home in New York when I see a crowd this young they usually start to check on like what you can offer me today and

so this is pretty good to see I just wanted to add a couple of things on what Chris said in

truer words were never spoken about a primary purpose I'm sure this from my own experience I would I got sober June twenty third nineteen eighty eight and for six months I was hanging on for dear life going to meetings and not drinking all I could think about was drinking not going to meetings and you know people were telling me just hang in there you know don't take the plug out of a job when you feel like drinking goal for a long walk

go to the gym work out the frustration you have you know I had to log these all the sexual issues we were told we just don't think about woman right now like I'm not

you know what happened to me June twenty I. December twenty second nineteen eighty eight I was going to drink and I realize now on the other side that was really divine intervention of pulled me away from that drink because on my own I was going to go drink a books is whether a person could quit upon on spiritual basis not depends upon whether lost the power to choose I lost the power of choice a long time ago and I was going and I was driving to Minneapolis in his broken down car they call them rent rent the wrecks and him driving down this Avenue and I'm looking for the first corner where guys and maybe doing some things on the first bar I can get into because I'm gonna go get fired up and I know what I'm going and I don't know where I had this feeling of

maybe I should try this this guy to talk about god and I made a press

and I had been praying all along but there was no real was just doing it because I was told to do it

and I made a sincere plea to god once again I found myself at this gentleman's house in Minnesota and I shared with this guide choices these are my dramas a life and I want to go drinking Christmas just a couple of days away my life is falling apart I mean awful synonymous what's this about and he asked me a couple of questions in a book talks about perhaps we disturb them on the question of alcoholism I was disturbed many many times and uncle toms and currently still on

when I start to run the show

but this guy asked me where are you what got in the twelve steps and I thought and I says well when do you start the steps he says when you stop throwing up your late

I need to start me on the question of alcoholism and as much as you got me angry as much as much anger as I felt at that particular moment I knew he spoke truce

because he was living example of what this what was going on in his life with this book see the greatest convince her for me was not what you said by watching you live with my own eyes how I so you live and he was a gentleman like many others in Minnesota who coming to meeting Sharon about a solution that they talked about any problems I talked about the solution to the problem show me who's a schmuck sit in the back would say I want to not knowing how to get out

they were just on loan about a tough day they had they were sharing solutions solutions solutions and then I would see them in a diner I would see them down at the park I would see them socializing they would invite me into their homes and I would see how they were living

and that convinced me more than any words with books talks about having a message of dept in weight when I saw how you acted and you live with this when you took this into your home the occupation of faith the word you gave me had ducked in weight now

is not only you on what the facts with your man with a real solution

your drink alike may

but I saw how you live

I let me show my associate is to they do back home we have people coming in with other addictions now I can say this from my own experience I try to share this solution is best Carlisle's me to have no problem saying what I'm about to say

what we do is we we lovingly bring people into Alcoholics Anonymous all walks of life and we don't lovingly guide them to the places they need to pay for example I'm an alcoholic I'm real alcoholic I did some other substances when a crack head comes in to a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous my job is not to say stick around to you identify wanted to speak is just what it going to happen I'm going to kill him by saying that to him what I do is lovingly guide into a cocaine anonymous meeting when he's around people of his tight

your book talks about the real log welcome our type I'm not attracted of that type I have no idea what it's like to be people it's to be like that have that sort of addiction that that whole thing so I lovingly guide them or take them to see a meeting

and then they get hooked up or are you looking to come to alcoholics anonymous and look to get some attention maybe they can find a golf and go about their merry way and take up ten minutes of the meeting talking about smoking crack while another drunk is dying in the corner of not identifying it's a great story a great fine a few years back and all time comes into his first a a meeting

Anna speaking gets up there with seven years and he's running his stuff

and he's talking about drugs at the say a meeting and the old timer leaves the meeting the stand in a parking lot against his karma guy come up to me says what's wrong he says I don't know what else to do he someone drunk I don't belong in a as homecoming so I never did drugs

as for me I caught me right here because that's an awfully powerful statement

some other experiences I had was people would talk about make ninety meetings in ninety days and I'm still looking I've searched his big book to find ninety meetings in ninety days Chris talked about the early is in the system the statistics of how successful we wore

they're not so good right now back then they couldn't make ninety meetings in ninety days

she didn't say you do a step a year

that's another one quarter so the great one duty a walls one two three one two three and you're out the door

what changed what changed how come every treatment center has their own twelve step manual and we do that instead of the book that gives us a short clear cut a a solution to find god to get right with god

I was in awe corks anonymous in and out for years

I tried therapy I tried psychiatrist I've gone to religious people I still kept getting drunk and then I would come here and they would say put the plug in the jug just keep coming back what people would good hearts but never giving me a solution and I remember one time feeling like what do I do because Alcoholics Anonymous doesn't work for me now where do I go

what do I do not I'm not hearing what what I was to hear in nineteen eighty eight when I was moved to Minnesota and people were told told me I was suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experience would conquer that I tried every other thing

and they told me the solution was in the first portion is book fifteen chapter two announced a drastic shift says this book will enable you to find a power

which will solve your problem you follow the directions you suit up and show up circumstances bring us to a place of willingness to do anything any lines

and we better have an alcohol we better have a sponsor who is a real alcohol look if I'm a real alcoholic and then we follow directions in this book in this book will take me to a power which will solve my problem all I have to do is follow directions and my willing or not that's a yes or no answer

and I better be so I I've got a really be praying for sponsor who's a real drunk I can't stress that enough and I'll close with this if you hearing you knew when you're looking for that sponsor you don't know who to ask my experience because it's happened to me a few times is go to god first

even if you don't believe father put a teacher in my life

and he will help provide you with someone who has a real answer was armed with the facts

this is life and that's sometimes ring here a little bit of a little bit of time we forget about the devastation that this illness causes

the life unreal alcoholic lives and the people with damage on the way in here I need to have someone who's passing this message on so you know you can go to a meeting now and you gonna piss people off we're gonna be in the minority but guess what the my job the majority's getting drunk

the majorities don't you can go to means in coming out and coming in and out here talk about everything else but the solution the minority in Alcoholics Anonymous is in this book and they recovered as I am this morning thanks

we got a few minutes and then you can questions on this primary purpose business any any questions from the data we can answer those in what will go take a smoke

and everybody got it I got a great not a great

I'm AT one thing we'll let you out real quick because I sometimes I get misunderstood we had this podium pretty hearty guys about this thing about primary purpose in about this one and you don't all of the issues that are in my life today I need to talk about and Peter alluded to it I need to make sure that all you guys understand if you got something going on your life is driving you nuts I'm not saying don't talk about it talk about it come early

stay late you know like the old adage you know I was gonna wear my Danny sure not forgot it left in the state go to Denny's they have been in Iceland what's that what's the equivalent she no one of your old drunk you know have a place to

go find someplace to talk go good to drink a coffee and sit and visit and talk to the guy I meet people in the fellowship for good there to help you it's a fellowship part of this thing is is if you're there for but just for a stink in our during the day guys can we just stay focused on god and the steps we just stay focused on the solution to the to the problem that's that's all we're trying to say everybody's got problems and that's what we are we need to talk about that just not here let's go smoke