River City Roundup in Sacramento, CA

River City Roundup in Sacramento, CA

▶️ Play 🗣️ Judy C. ⏱️ 40m 📅 09 Nov 2002
everybody I'm Judy
it's so nice to see so many faces out there of people that I've known and known for a long time the program
and
it's a real pleasure to be here I'd like to start out by saying that nothing gives me more pleasure than to be an Allen on having the attention of a room full of alcoholic
we need
and that is the subject of my talk tonight by the way but I would like to strap
by by thinking the committee for the privilege of being of service you know it's a miracle to me how I've been I have fourteen years of the program and it's just a miracle to me how year after year after year people do service and people do conferences and they and they do service for conferences even when they don't feel like doing service
and it's just it's a miracle of the program that we can have a river city roundup and that that their service gives me the opportunity to be of service and gives you the opportunity to be of service by showing up
so thank you all
and I'd also like to say
more that way okay
I'd also like to offer it gratitude to my sponsor doesn't happen to be here tonight but who is here in spirit I always like to mention too because I never called
one
even though I don't call her I always know that she's my sponsor and when I get into trouble I always think about her
I always imagine what she's going to
tonight I'm going to talk a little bit about my I'm gonna tell you sort of my one of my
six and seven stories so that's kind of the frame for tonight but but I'll just for those who don't know me and haven't heard my story sixty five times I'll just
right briefly hi I wasn't raised in an alcoholic family neither my mom or my dad
drank except smartly socially whatever but there was alcoholism all around me my uncle died of alcoholism his wife my aunt was just a black belt codependent and she as she died never getting into Allen on recovery which is
which is sad actually and her son has I think thirty three years in the program and he's in my life he's about ten eleven twelve years older than I am but he was my favorite cousin for some reason growing up go figure and and it's a thrill for me to have him back in my life and there were a lot of work you're just one of women
mothers and my friends wrote
and that didn't seem to know they just didn't seem to be much of anything for them to do it
sort of drink and
but but I had no idea that you know I needed a program and I I married an adult child
and we were we were very happily married for about nineteen years and then I came out of denial and some of the woman and let him from New Hampshire to California
and that's how I got in the program so if it wasn't for the alcoholics in my life today I would I would never have found Alan
and
you know I had this huge change in my life you know I live very straight like cancer and we lived in the country we had a dog and
you know we're very active in the Quaker community so we were just surrounded by the loving circle of Quakers and I'm
you know and then I just came home one day and told my husband I love this woman
it was it was kind of a shocker
especially for a greater community that was kind of a shock for them and so I came out here and you know everything was different like overnight I went from from living in this great your community and having all these families and kids to suddenly being enacted universe huge children and you know all these gay people and all these gay trunks and
and we drove across country in the middle of the semester you know we got in on Thursday night and took me to Robbins a lot us for express you know on Thursday night
but that was on that J. street and then I finally went to Friday night meeting so that was my first exposure to
Friday night north hall meeting
well you know and that was that was our smoking meetings and in those days you know and and I just remember walking and going
well if you don't
they're not even listening you know
getting up and walking in and out running around and not paying attention you know how come they're not taking notes
I mean I really didn't get
three months a good friend
the program team we're going after talking and he said to me says well Gee you know have you been
yeah and I said well
no
you know
he said well you're living with an alcoholic
she was
you know I went to this like hysterical laughter he just threw back at
after last
I got the kind that night and I was just furious that dean should suggest that I should go to now I mean just because I happen to be living with an alcoholic
in recovery and I've had in the car on the way home you know just because he thinks he is above the
and I got home and I got this and you know it's really quiet we're just flying down the lights are turned out and all of a sudden this huge saw just as you know out of my mouth and I started crying and she looked
yeah I just realized that I chose you and you're an alcoholic
and it was that awareness that
to an Allen I'm program so I really thank
all the alcoholics in this room after getting me to recovery
specially specially team
you know it's just been one long interesting trip since then
yeah
fourteen years
the story in brief so what I'm gonna talk about tonight you're my character defects which I'm sure those of you that know me well this will come as no surprise
the people I work with no these character defects about me and this is that I am basically
very self seeking and self centered person I used to think that Alan on you know we're really giving
I have moved along in the program I have come to see myself much more
see this character defect in the glowing color give me just a few examples of how the sex because this is not like something it's not like I do something self centered really big once a month
you know it's not like that it's like I'm just basically self centered every minute of every day
and
so this is kind of how it works I'll describe it so the other day at the office
one of my coworkers came in her name and she just she taken this vacation Elaine she was wearing this beautiful sweater
and it was you know sort of grounding to run her reports of
and it was white leather patch working across the front of the super I mean it was stunning and and she sort of worn around in about noon she just she just won't nobody says anything about how beautiful the square is and I said well I didn't know I really noticed how beautiful it looked on you and I was going to say something but then I thought well why don't
and
sounds just like something you would
she
shepherd one of your sisters or somebody was with their
N. or something and this rain waiting around for other people to sort of help her with her fans and after a while she turned in the spring you know you're gonna have to carry your own bag around and start calling you
you know
a few other little examples like that in meetings I don't know if this happens to you guys I have a job
and yet really and
in meetings as a matter of fact I get so impatient and meeting
I like have to say prayers in the middle of a meeting so that I can do to myself
my
you know my basic attitude the meeting is it's all about me and I wish that they would
and get it over with quicker you know doing smarter or whatever you know and I'm just basically impatient because I want things to move along it might be because everyone knows that my speed the only speed that really matters
the
which is which is about me and
I like to have the more like
and I buy a lot of and
I actually have more books than we have room
so I have a tendency to five people to try and I leave them on table because
you know when there's no real case where you can put on the table
but this
leading things around happens to really irritate my car
so we have this
that we play
call me on the table
yeah
how I can leave the book on the table for she asked me to move
and
the other night
my name is
and and
she was we were and we were being actually quite light hearted about it which is progress
you know I haven't actually need but it's a game and be lighthearted
to get into a fight about it yes recovery you know in our relationship
so she was asking me about how long the book on the table and colder
they would be moved the next night
but that Intel I could actually within the next I would engage in and the basic behavior now
when you take the books that are on the table and you
here which is so you
actually
basically
you know this is the base for now but I'm going to leave them tomorrow night but I'm going to do it after I get on the treadmill
and it was like
you know I know you're going
but she actually she started crying
because by admitting her my invasive behavior and by exhibiting myself which is you know I I know this is important you actually
first because that's more important to me you know it just brought up a lot of hopelessness that she happens to have around this behavior
I was just devastated you know that that she felt that I had created
so then I had to go make it and then you know about the game so it just goes to show that even these little games that we play alcoholics in Allentown you know their games but there's
and they're all these feelings underneath
in our hearts
that that causes to grow
that was that was a really and then you know we have to make it a minute I have to really look at the cell center
you know and and how deeply rooted it is in me and what and how I can change
and of course that gets me
two one
step six because really it's not at all about me changing is that really
about
the god of our understanding
changing
so how did this happen to me
hi however made progress
you know I can't really remember I sat down in preparation for this
really remember exactly how it happened
well
mmhm
I doubt
the fact is that if we're lucky enough to have friends
I'll be in a relationship then we know that we're really lucky to have a partner that calls are
and it really is very
I've been through an evolution
response and reaction to her ability
originally
in the first few years of my program you know when she would call my attention to my character defects my immediate response was to say
it's not about my
this is about your I would whenever I would
I would say you know it's really about you
finding fault with my ex it's about you being too critical
and and for years really I was obsessed with the fact that she had a character defect about being really critical
and it was more about her than it was about me
and actually that went on for a long time my feeling you know the way I handled
opportunities for growth and I'm actually if you after after the meeting I'm sure she tell you that it's still going on
I'm making some progress yeah
this phase that I kind of go through around this is what I call the grudging acceptance
things where she brings to my attention like around the books you know the book
and
and I will finally
maybe the next day maybe a half hour later maybe two days later you know you are right I'm sorry
I don't know how it is for other Allen you know saying I'm sorry like really really really hard
and saying yeah you're right
really hard
so I think that's the first phase is kind of where I say like
there is
you know there is again that
you know
it is
you know
see it again and yeah yeah
you know it's it's some it's hard to go through those phases but it's
it really does help because what happens when I finally get to that place where I say oh there it is again when she brings that character defect to my attention again
after time after time it weighs on me and finally I got to this place with the weight of my own self centeredness was just
driving me crazy I I've been in enough rooms Alcoholics Anonymous where I know you you talk about you know we talk about being sick and tired of being sick and tired and that kind of
where I finally done with a lot of the self centered just began to feel like some sort of a jail I couldn't get out of stock
all the time I get
and and I don't actually remember you know I don't remember going
thank god on my knees or balance a guide or anything and saying you know please take this
I don't really remember doing if I must've done something
because something
in my life yeah the only thing I can remember is enough enough slash and then one moment I must
you know I can't take this anymore free me from the bondage of self you know I just I I must have said something because you know grace doesn't come into our lives we
you know that's just the truth and and great that's really what it is
I need in this particular area of my life and
you know it's a word that we talk about you know maybe people think it's a weird word
you know it's kind of religious or something for me grace is the word that I use for when god does something
for me that I can't do for myself
right
and and so great kind of put it in for me and
and that some things are really really shifted in my life and I want to share some of that with you and of course that means I have to talk about
in addition to the book from the cable game there's be going to the ATM
and
and this is because I'm chronically short of cash and I'm always waiting until the last minute and having to go to the ATM and I usually like to do this right when we're getting ready to leave to go someplace else you know so it's an area that we have to add on the front end of where we're going
self centered and you know it I've got to go to the ATM and we just have to somehow it is
do your schedule our schedule whatever so
and now I know you're not gonna be surprised to hear this but she's a little resentful about
going to the ATM
and
yeah
you know I mean I don't want to go to my bank so I don't have to pay the extra
and it's basically because I had this image of myself that you know I am not a person who waste money
yeah this is I mean I'm a person who's broke all I like to go to my bank on your time
really really well no issues
you know we should be going yeah
we were having the ATM game recently then I don't know maybe
one month ago and then in the middle of the ATM conversation
I thought
now I know you all have the
where you know you're on the treadmill and then for some reason
god sends you a new spot you know it's not like you have
and you
so I had a new style and this is what is so important
about this
that means that I have that I'm not the kind of person that pays an extra fifty of somebody else once
and you thought right
what is so important that you
you know that's a really shocking for me because
no prior to that time just about everything that I thought about myself like vitally important
you know it was which is really strange I'm not always a very active person I don't spend a lot of time you know contemplating my own death but they thought
new train of thought was well yeah like you could be dead tomorrow
you know and no one would ever know or care about this image of you that your person that doesn't like the only person
you and you would be
really the whole thing about this image of who I am and
you know in the kind of respect for me and I thought well why
I mean I literally had that thought you know what kind of like well just an image I have of myself and I could be dead tomorrow no one would care anyway about the same anyway they might even
so why don't I hold onto it
that moment in time I
you know
really easy
yeah sure and I said well sure we don't have to go to my
but whatever it was I just gave it up
yeah
gave it
and that is a miracle
really
that new thought what
really
I mean are you see your role
here's another example this is
during
very funny
I decided that I had
and like most
yeah
and you know read about it in that consumers report
talk to my sister in law about the kind that she had about her personal trainer recommended and and then I had I had a little windfall I had a little extra jobs money
I came straight from this job and I went straight
and that I wanted in close you know I was so excited manner money off you know so excited about this treadmill I'm sure you know slapped down the credit card
and
you know I'll take it
right down to will call
and I was by myself that was
tell you something right away
you know eagerly standing at will call and this is this is about the strict about my image of myself
my image of myself
yeah starter
you know I am I am just saying I love to start things and I'm really expecting that you will help me finish them
now if you like
you know I can use
for living with someone else and the African
follow up on things
you for many many years
so I will call you know I'm not going
I
your mother
on the floor
in this thing and it's like six I don't know it sits on a wooden pallet
you know I thought to myself I really don't know the card but I was too embarrassed to tell the guy to turn around and take it back so we'll call you know
so I don't know really in my in my group he said well let's try so by golly you know we we push this jam this thing on the street right in the back and
but anyway so I was me and I was really excited and finally this is the Reno
I'm like so excited
so I get to the house you know and I
have a look at the car and I looked at the front door
and
about midnight so I kind of roll over the bed and I say you know
and that was that until the next morning so as you're planning on spending most of the day relaxing
but I needed her to you know deal with my treadmill
and he says you know cheating
your
and you know she was just having fun you know
she's
she's absolutely right I do have to deal with the stress this is my treadmill this is my deal I was enthusiastic about it and I looked and I said you know I don't think I quite
so
I went
actually you know she said she was she was a little bit helps you said you know you might be able to read
somewhere
actually we did she did help me read it I I did go to rent the dolling and she went with me actually
probably calling home and then I went off and found the neighbor caddy corner to
speaking can help
because we just couldn't
where to start whenever we can
the card
a very long story even longer
they did actually because it never occurred to me that you actually put it together
I'm reading the mill it's great
but
but then they knew that I was that I started this thing and I had to finish it and I did take the dollar back to the right place you know myself and I didn't get
thank you for helping and and that's actually new thinking yes that's great
in my life having having
you know there's some
there's this piece of Alana literature that I hate
which is just
the first time I heard it I just
and
about you know dressing up nice and being nice and has all the
but the one that I really
it goes something like this is just for today
I will do something nice for somebody and not get caught
this was really a new thought for me and a very pleasant for me
I think you know
my idea about doing something nice for people it's kind of like banking
something nice and it's a credit
right
so you build up your
credit
your credit you know anyone in favor
you say well I did this for you
when you use a credit or use credit
what you know to offset
when you you know you you you can like
I don't remember when anyone for you you know so the idea so far in my life you know
something or something is very important to be noticed
you had to be knowledge because you can go in the bank
no
really so
I swear this is great by working my life the other day for no reason whatsoever like about two months ago or so
no happened recently I had another new
this new thought was well
one
oil
every now and then
you know one
it's very confusing for me
because for many years I you know there was no line between codependency and spoiling
there just wasn't a lot so
so I made this decision that I was going to try this I was actually gonna practices
crack just boiling her and and not
that's what I was doing
and that was just very news news buy for me so you know I now I'm telling you know hopefully it walk on the
so here are some of the things that I've been doing you know I've been getting up first in the morning and I've been making her coffee and bring her coffee and
and also while I'm waiting for the
get I actually tried you know changing the dog's water
which is something that she used to do all the time
and then I've been trying
giving your spontaneous massages you know like
and and we weren't getting a response I really try to focus on the fact that I'm doing it the way I think she might like
I would like to do
you know
the other day I actually offered to go home you know I actually go to the grocery store on my way home without her asking
so this is new for me and actually you know it hasn't been that bad it's actually been pretty pretty much fun I really enjoyed it it's been kinda like this little secret that I can with myself
well her without letting her know and you know this I never would have done this without without the program without race never yeah what happened I would never have left commander
and it is very confusing you know Alan on and and I did try that right now and I did try to contemplate what's the difference between between being nice and thoughtful just someone and doing things for them the way I used to do it you know before I was in recovery what's the difference because sometimes it can feel really confused
and I'm
and this is what I want to leave you with
I think the difference is an inherent
you know what's my intention and what I'm doing you know am I
am I doing this thing
being self centered you know is it about my feelings about what I think is right this is about my way you know back to the spot you know it's about giving this massage away
you know
the way the way I know the right way to get a massage so I'm gonna give it to the right way you know as opposed to
can I intuitively figure out what it is that you want need and can I offer that to you you know
it's about it's about me seeing her
and thinking about her
not me seeing me and thinking about me
it's all about intention
and
and
and all this time you know
I thought it was
I thought it was about
actually all this time I thought it was about me defending myself against her
but it is you know it's never been about her it's always only been
about me and about the prison of my own self centeredness
today
with the grace of the god of my understanding
I have I do have these moments right I know it's because in the program of Allen on I have become safe
and I have become secure
with who I am
so you know I have become safe and I have become secure with me
and because of that you know I have now today and because of god's grace I have found it easily to see her to truly see her and just seeing what I can do for her out of life not counting down thing you know getting more credit from the bank
I still I still buy too many books
I don't think that's going to change
and I I still leave them lying around
no I don't think that's going to change either
just for today
just for today
I can put them away
before she asked me to
and that is a new freedom
that is
being free from the prison of self centeredness and that is the promise
of this program
and that's what keeps me coming back to be of service thank you