The 11th annual Live & Let Live Conference in Kansas City, MO

good morning I am there and I am an alcoholic
that's true those of you that don't know me for those of you that you
records show that I was able to battle with great
but what I'm here for
and I'm here to tell you about myself
the only thing I can do
any sort of reliability
I will start by telling you that I work after sitting there last night working the speaker I figured I'd better or something
it worked
things to do and I
I'm
I guess I'm supposed to do is tell you what what it was like what happened with us right now and there's a lot of information in there and I
you
I come from a lower middle class family
moved away in a hurry
my family background was one out of sort of a moderate amount of the standard abusive behavior
one of my earliest
memories of waking up with my mother standing there waiting to buy
and then after I
how to discover that it was because
post out of the creek
I really
he writes down something
taking offense posted everything so
I learned
that what they told me must have been right and I was given that I was ugly and then I would never amount to anything
over the years found that if you
something about a hundred and eighty seven thousand
don't believe anything right now with absolutely
throughout my entire career of living with my family that was pretty much what things were like
my mother married my stepfather when it was
seven seven before I was
because I was
all of your children do we follow we never get
what I remember just a few years ago telling one of my grade school friends about some of these occurrences in our house
we absolutely didn't believe it at first and I said well why would you not believe
your mother was right
it was the whole thing
Manley has abuse going on everybody's very publicly
private life
those stories where it's not quite so
and it's taken a lot of years
to be able to come to terms with some of that and to realize that a lot of what they told me this wasn't true
as far as my drinking career that was I would never do anything wrong I mean I couldn't because I know every
so I didn't have my
unlike most of the
I went went to a bar that was fairly close to where I live
well they should have put a plan out there for me that was where I mean very first
and I think that would
twenty one thirty three twelve years I
didn't ever wake up in the middle of the night we have a few beers on the back
I used to think that there were reasons for why I drank I drank
you forget
yeah that I would never amount to anything
and I drink so that I wasn't
so that I can pretend that I was a worthwhile person
I used to think that I drank because that was the only way that I knew how to
it was to get drunk and
and so they wouldn't take me to bed
when I finally figured out what we're what I figured out was that I drank
I was addicted to alcohol it was as simple as
I drank because they couldn't agree to
that for me
there's a lot of things that I can tell you about what happened while I was there anything that most of those are pretty irrelevant I was laughing
one of the primary memory
when I was in college I didn't
twenty
I remember walking across campus when there was one dollar and
and I was crying and crying and crying and asking the question why why did I have to be like
but I knew that I would not be able to avoid spending that last
and that's what they were doing
and your name
and that was very typical of me in a very critical of my
whenever I was drinking in fact I was crying so much the government declared
federal wetlands
it was it was getting worse and worse every day every day
I could tell that things are getting worse but I also knew that I couldn't quit
I could tell in different ways like the people that I was hanging around with
I am hung around with a lot of users
they have a couple of drinks and that was there you know nothing more to worry about
and pretty soon they were people who were drunk
and then there were people who work around
and then there were people that I didn't know
in the final round if I was finding new people to people that didn't that I didn't know they didn't know me
and they will put up with me
well
as you can imagine
there came a time when I was with the wrong people at the wrong time
and I ended up getting arrested for the crime of which was real thrilling
and then up in prison
and I did my time there was
very comfortable
grain sort of the way I always knew where my next meal was coming from I always knew I would have and then we can
but at the same time I was scared
and then I started realizing that for me being afraid with the normal state of being I was afraid of everything
being rejected by every human being that ever growing grass
because I was being rejected by myself
I finally had my
believed invalidated in that I was no good one day when I was
really beaten and stabbed and raped by
very large
at the time it was no big deal because they just proved to me that I was
during the day that I got out
when I walked out the door then I got home never drink again I know I know because I can't go
how does that because that's what people expect to hear from me
so for that I couldn't go back
for the first couple hours I didn't
coming home run for me and I will not
I will never get back into it because I'm not going to drink beer I'm gonna drink smart little glass of wine to celebrate my
for the rest of the afternoon
coming home party
somebody rather
another one rather few cases
thank you
and cried and cried and got lots of attention
it was because I was
installment from having been in prison
for me when I was
but it wasn't from being in
it wasn't too long after that that I get my first several
I went into a treatment center for valuation
and this is what I was told
you have a lot of problems the drinking is definitely not one of them
get better than that not on your life
I left the center on the
I was there for
the end of the driveway
on the way home
ground
as you can imagine I did some sort of way the court might
so I would go from one job to another job because they all figured out that I was an alcoholic
I don't know that I was because I was
because I have the flu
thank
or
or to
he goes on and on
he got a job
it was yet another jab
and I told my boss that I was an alcoholic and that he had to make sure that on every day I
because I was going to go that route and he
the previous
you're never late
I work at seven thirty in the morning
eight o'clock at night so I didn't have to worry about being late
it is
one of those well
in a blackout one
I don't remember leaving what I remember is going into town to run some errands it was right before Christmas
the next thing I knew I was getting out of the van it is that I didn't know
how I got here I'm not sure I think I hit
absolutely not okay
only we the people
the recording of a car
but apparently that's when I got back to
I started retracing my steps found out
lesbian friend of mine
borrow my car to take her to the hospital
yeah
I gave her the title sign didn't
I don't need it anymore
give nothing to nobody
that was not something that I'm very comfortable talking about okay I will it was a lot of
I'm one of those people who knew that I was
when I was there I had my first number one everything
okay he was an older man here they
he was also my best friend we also share the same last name
he was everything that I wanted to be
when we were in high school he was voted the best looking going to school
he was great he was waiting for me everything that I wanted to be that I knew I wanted
and I spent years
my
like what
he
we broke up when I was twenty one
and
may twenty first birthday
by the time I was twenty one years in a week
and I drink a little thing
some of the people didn't yet realize how ugly I want
and I was going out of
and the manager the bargain incredibly because I can't
you want
well
I mean I
twenty
really quite
you are looking
all of these are able to grab almost any man I want
I've been doing
the home
five three one
and it became one of those things where I can play well he wanted me
now
and they all wanted me for an hour
but it didn't take long for them to realize
great to be around for more than an hour
it didn't take too long before that one
maybe
for the
working
but then I made
for certain clothes
the way some of these men would take me home in the
and I worked very hard getting only the ones that would be to the point where we got neither has the owners one of the particular part number
allow them one night
change in going from this feeling with nothing
and do anything they wanted
and they
they prove that I deserve
and that I deserve to be treated
I would rather
as I would the right
time in my life I was absolutely right and these men were proving
that I was absolutely no good
really I lied
we don't you know like if you were if I were to rate all man I don't want to go with somebody that was in a
with the fire
and I got to the point where one would do
anyone with
one
well that will never leave my mind was that
I woke up one morning
I didn't know that I
home with me and I rolled over
green man
unbelievably over
and there was not one where his body that wasn't covered
to me he was very very
repulsive and I would never ever day yes
but then after I screamed I realize how bad
and at that point
I want to do is figure out a way
and he was
and wouldn't leave
well it is about a week or two weeks after that that being under the weather
three one Lincoln
a lot of the black out in the middle of the night
because your old one and I was very
that was in the
right
that was low thank
but it apparently wasn't as low as I can go because I didn't
and then I went to another treatment
another one and another one until I had
five different treatment centers
well
it never work
because I and I don't know why it didn't work because I went for almost every reason and everybody
I was not ready to quit
when I finally did
well I guess they're going to
and I discovered that it would work very very well I could do things like go to the meeting in like thirty five dollars for
what I do that every week thank you
three times a week I can go in and act like that
I mean they have a little problem
not when needed
and of course the money to get drunk again
there were
but when I
what happened was I had been going to meetings
claiming
because I was not
hello this
but I did not
I went to the
I told everybody how to stay sober
I mean they were it was great everything I seem to be magical for the
I one woman when they were sitting in a meeting between because
the work is
when you look at a girl
he remembered that
do you remember about five years later that was one of the things
over with hearing
well
I'm glad I was able to help
what time is going
really at this point despising myself because I go out on the court and go back in and collecting
I wasn't drinking
during my we
everything I couldn't face those people I'm
because I had a secret
and they didn't know what was
well I claim that I had one of the world's finest plane and ground
because it works
I knew that because of my mom's saying all the right things nobody would believe
I knew it
what I did was I went to a meeting
because I tried to tell them that I was using
they were
so I went home and on the way home and
that
right one
quickly as I could and I called up this woman that I knew would
all right you bet on your
people in this room
well the two of them came over to my house and we had to discuss
shares of living
here's what they said to me
tell me
no you're not
and they were right
I've never wanted to have a drink
I'm not sure exactly why they were right
and her live in the way I
I did manage
I don't know for sure what was going on with me again I mean I would
a couple years
but I remember the first anniversary of my
this is so easy
and yet I remember walking down the street
here's the
because I wasn't getting
I got a lot of attention when I was growing all negative but I got a lot of it
and that night I went to
right
these people do
I wish that they cared about me even though I was drunk cared about me and I do not
they told me that I was
yeah
but they only have a few of them during the first few years what I learned how to do
I did learn
I didn't learn how to put
I didn't learn how to
keeping secret
but eventually I did start learning those things
because the one thing I learned was that if I
all right
thinking back to all the behaviors that happen
four times I was intrigued
I left it was easier
no I have
I couldn't tell anybody about the abuse
I'm usually happens around people
I knew that they were just so many things I couldn't tell well after the first years
over
calling people little by little what happened to me what I have lived through
the card is the only one that I wasn't the only kid in the world
what the only one who's called Graham would never amount to anything
by the time I would
five years I started thinking maybe
maybe I was starting
well that was
back to school
went to school to learn how to be a computer programmer
but I didn't know that I really thought I want to do that so I went to this school and three quarters of the way through it I discovered now I don't want to do this ever as an application
but I
that's when I graduate
over the next
never use
I was out of that school maybe a month went back to school I went
like all good little
does anybody in her honor
and along the whole route I was good
it was a little hard to conduct this balancing act
do it I'm only here one day gone out milking cows and
I didn't smell too bad on these days and I didn't and that was on the
it went very very well I got out of school and immediately
one of the more
everything was going great
and I decided to move to California
I talked to a friend of mine out there
and
and about
three weeks after I was there
once I got out there I started job hunting but I
I couldn't move very well
because I didn't feel well
LOL
I couldn't live
and then I was having all these other problems
and I was out there about three months when
now I'm going
and all I could think of at the time of
but the doctor told me I would only live about
thank you after you don't know me very well
over about six years and I learned how to be a little bit
right like
I mean
a lot of people don't understand when they called on this but I will tell you the same thing everybody else getting a second best thing to ever happen to me in my life
I love
but not for the reasons you might think I'll tell you I love it
prior to it I had lost my
most of my friends because I drank my way through
yeah
yeah I was very happy
when I get
I have not been evaluated things like which is worth more diamonds
which is worth more than your car
and I started realizing that all the things in the world in the
but my family meant a lot to me and I needed
well my friend man
as much as they have become my family
gotten a lot of
right now we're getting slapped in the face with
in reality being that we are human beings we are mortal we can't do a damn thing about the weekend
something about our present and our future
being in a I had learned all these things like I am
well over alcohol
my life has become unmanageable it was
but then I turn around and re write
came to my aid thank
I am not
I am powerless over the fact that our
why can I give the internal lot of good direction
but I've learned
mmhm the aid program
it works well
I learned without any shadow of a doubt what living life one day at a time
not just doing it learn what it means
I'm down to seventy eight
my friends
and I've got something good from everyone of them
I can't get down long enough to realize how important my life is and how important the lives of many
and the lives of my family
yeah I learned a lot
I learned what it means when we talk about easy does it
there's been a lot of things in my life that I desperately desperately wanted
but I never did because I first of all it wasn't
I never had enough faith in my abilities okay well I can do that
I can do anything I want
for years and years and years
every spring and every call
because I believe
through because of a number of reasons the only
what are they doing about myself a couple of
when I got here the other day
but I because I choose to do
analysts microgram
it was making me happy
if I don't make myself and do it I
for me I can't do anything for anybody else
it is not only more
I learned early because of my life
in my life
incredibly light
even when you know one of those days where
everything in my life was going wrong get my windshield after the next yesterday I got around just down the street not far
thank god I wasn't wearing any jewelry and he didn't
thank you yeah he got what he wanted and I got scared thank you
I didn't but it wouldn't have been any surprise
but
not like these
and even on your days off
I don't
why bother
in December yeah not to be
server to be normal what I mean yeah is that normal is okay
a lot of my friends not accepting normality and that's normal is not mean perfect
normal does not mean I have a **** eating grin on my face twenty four hours a day because I am so happy
I'm not always but I am only normal
I am absolutely always normal
there's been an incredible amount of
in my life
from
these days I am so busy at the time which is wonderful
because I know that I can do the job that I have to do
I know that I have enough intelligence
do the things I need
to make me happy into the body and soul together
I am very very things that I need to be successful
one of the things over something over five thousand
because I couldn't stay sober for five seconds before
with my businesses
I didn't want to spend my time with things that are important to me I have a three and a half year old grandson
here's a little story about him and this is one of the proudest days of my life was on my birthday last year it was two and a half of the time we were in a restaurant and this would stand up and start spending
in this restaurant people are looking at him and he turns around he goes
right
I sat there with tears running down my face and on this whole audience applauding
well that does
and he's not the only one
and I learned a lot of that for you
I learned from this trial
things about me that I
I didn't even know were possible I learned that I can be a big person I can be
I didn't know that even after
here's a severity
and be the adults if I
I learned that I can be positively stubborn
and I am very stubborn hopefully in a positive way
I'm stubborn enough that I'm the last four occasions when they told me I was
probably die within a couple of weeks
you know me better than that
go around
I still
there's there's a lot of things that I've learned to understand absolutely
I work this program I will start over absolutely
I've learned
the expression live and let live has another part
and then you can let
it's very easy for me to somebody else it's very hard for me to let someone else give me on an emotional or personal level and I'm learning that it's okay for me to be a giving person
for me to let someone give
the price
but it didn't
I know
exactly what is meant by easy does it
it myself over doing lots of
there is absolutely no similarity between my life now in my life
thirteen years
I don't feel like the same person
even though I know I have the same body I don't
part of me has changed and it will
the way it is now
grow
but I don't go back to the
I want way back when I said that I would not want to there was one time for two seconds and I wanted to have a drink
I was on my way home from a friend of mine
and I heard all these lies about I heard that he died from cirrhosis of the liver
news
I heard that he had died from a heart attack
I heard several other causes of death after the
never because you see that we are
after all that we don't get that part you know that
well I still do
but
while I was driving down the freeway I want
a lot of ground to make it all go away
and then I learned
wait a minute that's not even an option anymore
I have different options for any kind of feelings emotion problem whatever that I'm going through then one
it doesn't have to be one
whereas before it was the only one
and I think as a result of all that I can honestly say now that I'm
okay
I don't run around grinning all the time but I don't hurt
usually I do occasionally and
and I'm grateful for every one of those feelings
because without some of the sadness without some of the
always enjoy
there are a lot of
I'm not sure most people have seen the movie name at one time or another where she says to her friend
the line
life is a banquet and most poor fools are starving to death
look at it this way I may be getting in the house and this is
and that's that's all I can say about things over
other than to say that if I can do it anybody can do
because I'm just like everybody else I wasn't drunk I stopped drinking
that's really about all I have