Gratitude Conference

Gratitude Conference

▶️ Play 🗣️ Duncan A. ⏱️ 45m 📅 02 Jul 1995
hi my name is alcoholic
make a note
we worked on it a little easier for
this week I've been working on this letter
I'm not too concerned with what I have
sometimes when I'm going to wear is more important
the more I worry about that the more guys take care of other things
and whether something like god grant me the letter the things that cannot
and the wellness
and
this morning out of the blue
we all came into my hands
from home and I had enough money to buy that sweater
but I said I don't want to because it's not going to change anything about me
this moment
I decided instead to close my eyes
what
it was a gift from
several years ago he bought a
you couldn't wear it in public
so he knew I could and a large part of my story is is the right thing the people have brought into my life
all the wealth of things in my own mind has created for me
you know I've become open who of the kindness of others
all of that I want so much of my story is quite ordinary
I think one of the things that people the people are saying about me is that I don't
without a certain amount of suffering in your life people aren't wrong
but I refuse to take on anymore in order to drive me out of myself
but I come from a whole family
no as I recognize it yet today
from a five
people were back on
I have a brother and two sisters my father traveled a great deal in in my youth across
finally in Nova Scotia
repressing the marker I don't really know where
then you might know my dad he was the manager
thank you everybody
one of the
one of the threads of my
some of the people with whatever I have to tell people what my father did for a living separated me from them that they would
there are usual car
because most of the other families there there were
background
and only
younger years even at that last year I was adopted or
and I was wrong even though
I'm almost
all that I didn't think I belong because the longer the planet I found it almost impossible to integrate myself with people around me the other
you recall I cried all
the writing on the back how you got along with people to get what you want to
it never worked and nobody can do the reverse me either I would never
you have the
hi Michael with like that my parents loved me the the well maybe they didn't try
give me the opportunity all right
I never felt obligated to tell my parents
let me
on my own dream following
I'm very grateful
I walked through high school
I did a bit of college
at a very young age I knew that I was a little queer boy
one of my earliest memories of a man was found it was going to hold a
four five
and we're at ground and they were guys older guys taking showers
you can go in there and help them more
something about that
bodies in the call I knew I wanted but I didn't know if that is what
when I was old enough to realize that they also realize what are called
very good everybody
one of our
it offers because I didn't know how to deal with the didn't know what to do with it you know
he was getting
some of my good friends and they are called
all in the morning
flooring and it was all as I look back now
I myself wasn't
there was another one of the ways that I would
could never never
although the very early age I started writing and painting and doing everything I
they didn't know how to I couldn't figure out a way of communicating people are wanting to
you can communicate with them and you know what I
what happened you know so I didn't and I'm grateful that I didn't get
you know I did have a
whatever wellness
a lot of it comes back
completely
my only after a bad year college when my my drinking started online there's a blackout thank
even before I started drinking I
Frank you know you
the you don't remember what you did
and when I qualify yeah if I could remember what they did the night before I did not have a good time
thank you
they started out like once a month every month and quickly built up to one week I'm
I could never drink enough but one time I was drinking a lot for a lot of
when I started I I was I went from my personality things are going
and even with my
somebody who was
the look like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde hi I was not a nice person
probably not as bad as I think I watch which is the part I think of our disease many years
that's right the way we work you know that that I know I went to my
the other thing that came into my life very early age with you and I will live my life as a constant
you know the first thing the first thing that goes on in the morning after I got my
for heating
right now
the whole life without it is like a life without this program of recovery and the third or fourth thing
in my life
over the last
seventeen years
three hundred
some of you may know I'm I will work and live theater and the director and
it was about
the music and one of the characters the best about
and in his
Dr okay I don't think it matters what it is
operator the one thing in life
and for many years the one thing at all times
and I think that's why it's so important to me
I'm in my early twenties I got a job with players on the
talking with them for about two years my thinking escalated
latest related by the end of my drinking I was someone who wanted to wake up
I was also someone who is
all the money that would be probably has gotten good reviews
have a very good
recently warning
the poll you know somebody who had all of those things like help me will make me feel whole and complete and happy and I want to
I would often wake up quite disappointed that I was looking back on it now I realize that it was because those things are designed to do what we call their design do you know it's nice to have those things those things
whatever that whole days here those things are designed you know the accurate
they don't have a record of my drinking I was doing anything I could call it except not drink and even those times when I would call for a couple of weeks
thinking it was the next
in
I started making all my dreams one
I would have like a huge gallery and I would depending what if I was having one of the things that we find out what I called wealth grew drivers would be would be more than five
going to the store and I would take it up with all stay the same
is that I would just make me stronger and stronger but I would have something somewhere in my apartment
Robert
you know towards the end of my drinking I drank sitting on the floor because I had a coordination problem
everything I needed with it within my reach my telephone on my stereo you know seven or eight or ten albums I thought I would want to listen to that
everything that I wouldn't have to I I found a bucket that was part of my day when I started vomiting I wouldn't have
well over it would be there I can
I thought I was so lucky
I started having hallucinations language
hallucinations when I was lying in bed I was sitting on the edge of the bed or moving out there
I would have auditory hallucinations are with your music coming through the walls
I would hear people across the street parking about me
I wish your telephone ringing
I was having visual hallucinations
south of the corner of my art I
and I had emotional
waiters or waitresses who was behind bars obviously one
you
yeah a little lot last loss of contact with any kind of reality
they are happening
so
I was in
I didn't connect any of the things in my life any of the problems like problems I was having
they were all people places and things that was that was because I was living in a little
little town in these calls I was so I'm happy to
I had no community I have nobody people at work increasing to work at it
you know all of that it was
I never saw and
the connection between my drinking and my
vomiting
going back
you might as well
during one of my last
the drinking I I had a copy of the body politic started to find out about the gay community
thank
there was a crowd on the back of it with the phone numbers for different organizing and coincidentally one of those organizations a member of the program and
talking to him on the phone and I was breaking up
working out there something in
you realize that I was
we
more information about the program and I look
the government told her I think I
not only to say that I was an alcoholic or could be
home even though I was getting something coming up
it was very odd whatever whatever
around that was when I moved here I got in touch with him he
you know I didn't come here looking for what I have today in the way I have
I certainly didn't come to my first year of recovery looking for recovery I didn't come in looking for recovery I can because this is a place
well look
what else was there for me between the hours of seven AM anyway on a Friday night
before I went too far
you know so I went to meeting
and I went and I went to going to the newcomer
it's simple
after about a year old meetings I like
the jobs that I've had for about
after twenty years that you've operated with the way things were done
it'll be a
you know I got the
today you know and I think that was my first experience around
and my experience as a result
in my experience being that all of those things that I
exactly those things that would do it for me
is that what we do it for me would be to render whatever with
and that's what the answer
and I think would be
so I I haven't heard a page now
senior might be longer I I could lose
but I'm not
yeah
if you call me now and then
I almost implicitly what the will of my higher power
and all of that I have discovered and hearing here sometimes directing my own life sometimes but witnessing and other people
you know god is making race yeah I don't want to go
no I'm not going to have a
you go through what you went through
and I'm not going to be great
all of those things
yeah
the journey of my recovery is
probably more impressed me more than the process of making it you know if there's anything unusual about my about me becoming a problem I don't have any of the classic markers of being an alcoholic
it it's not in my family or my grandparents
you know it was it was it was gonna be dropping that into my life
sometimes the
anything in the way I did during those formative years of my life I might
I don't think I could have emotionally
the call
some of the conflict
going up in a small town all other
going on you know I would
I probably would've but hadn't been drinking I would have
LA rather ironic way alcohol
your life
it was like being in the program maybe five years before I can honestly say that I am an alcoholic
I would
people wouldn't
things that need to be L. I. F. because languages with my
we know how to say the right things at the right time the people at the right distance from me are sometimes in the kind of
I don't know if I'm grateful for that or not the way it was you know about the five year plan yeah
the project lifted recently that I was able to be in other people's lives things that were in my life that I didn't recognize that in there and the Nile and alienate
that I had thought I was able to direct in my life
it wasn't until I get your point that I realized that this program is my
you know for a long time recovery was something that I was doing in my real life
this is what I'll be doing now
tell us your call
this project
you know this is my life and that it is the the not only is the bedrock
things that part of the twelve and twelve
so not only the bottom line but the top line
nothing I do or would want to do is more important in the healing my recovery
and nothing I do or I want to do
right of my recovery
I would much rather
to be at my meeting
the afternoon
in line with anyone
in fact
wartime crimes like that
in a professional way but in a more away who needs
this is what I need where I know many things
fallen into my life that that would never happen or if they did I wouldn't be able to
it's a live walk through
to be aware of and to recognize I live alone
in that one of the things
you can prioritize how many different things but one thing that has a really profound influence on the direction of my recovery is
which gave me the
thank you bye
yeah because I don't I don't buy
they don't let the people I care for the
I'm very wrong
it is very intimate with that awful I don't put up with
and it's going to learning for myself as well as
my expectations of other people that I was able to acquire
right now all of the problems the interaction that I brought with me as a child and then as an adult I was able to do that
the call
great
I learned what I often call the limits of love
are you black almost all part of the solution love conquers everything
when I entered into a relationship with another alcoholic and my love for that person didn't conquer your yell or do anything
I thought there was nothing wrong with me
wrong with him
your change
you lose your will power and
I discovered that all love does your
and you make me comfortable with my
it doesn't do anything for you
I still have my
there's nothing wrong with my ability to lock your car
yeah mother Karen markers
your
at one time I thought it was like
that number
the only person I know who work in other people's lives
it was very tough getting out you're losing a lot of everything
because I so much want to believe that if there's still time when I look at what you know there are times when I would have refused to allow that I may have to return to their brain through that little thing that talking around the corner
the end of the two or three things in my life
thank you mark
the limit of what love can do
I was in the middle of my
very my recovery
several of
credible he says there are my relationship with them are the ones that work are very intense they're emotional they're you know
I do hello
good
well
one of the things about
the most rewarding is that I can see those things that work in my recovery working
is that my recovery is not so it's not so unusual so
but those things that work on the work
if they do work for other people
my relationship with my equally in that he is with me when necessary
and a lot of kind of laughing about our lives and and in the way we
South Park
in our lives the
and it was important for me to have a
the card long enough my dear I don't want to do it
here
right there's a lot of that I think the program is giving you the ability
you know when I
well promises
having a lot of things in my life
terrifies me you know we will including a lot to do with
like all the
here you you do something
why didn't
today I do
to do it I willing to do it
is that I didn't learn I I learned that by making
by phone okay I'll be there at six thirty in our pocket and
the meeting and when we were talking I will
great day it's not that I would get the meeting hi there I was there I couldn't
you can get away with it
and if the doctor
our responsibility
the card is going
during a business meeting
meeting me how to listen to what people have
how not to take things personally
if somebody didn't think we needed at our meeting what
because we need you know and I
get over my
well I learn if I was going to make suggestions of things to do that I've got to be willing to do it
you know I think this would make our meeting so much better than I better stay a member of that group long enough
two months later because nobody's doing it that way and not to take those things
you know it is this is the way life happens you know it
I don't in any way now the way
well it looks pretty hard too hard for me yeah I don't think of anything in my life like
this is the way life in a way
they are
and this is what you know and I do the grace of god very comfortable with the way things are not like them
but I
and in our lives today there's so many things we do not like
one of the things about
name
one of the founders of my recovery
and I'm one of those people who
there her
and
you need when when it first started happening
the buying or not quite that friends of friends of mine and then close there and watching how it with a lot of people's lives that began to get quite angry that nobody
but what I wanted was for me knowing that I want somebody else
I wouldn't have to do anything I wouldn't have to
watch going on
right after yeah within the
here are three or four years
quite often and
what happens with other people while I was on hold for several people
it remembering that
this past week
early because there's a couple of them were very involved in what we have today
you know and that reading the little introduction and you're talking about radical thinking years ago which I was
and
and I don't know anything else that I can
are you worried
one of the organized
he denies that he
the first time I met him look like
the bad drag queen with a really horrible rain
the
get things done and the thing that made me laugh and
he didn't mess around with people who did the first graduates enter the start of the second one half
three years ago
it was it was it was a little heartbreaking
another member who I want to know where
well who is that here call my
you know my my
who is the
it was also one of the first people I met maybe
programs work from my home
and who also is grateful that I never going
he left town before I even started there you go
he was one of the many Catholic coming back because he had a he had a power of liking him and the willingness to be who you are
they gave me I was there when I got to know him towards the end of his life I discovered that I also gave him that we were meeting each other
in the wake up with
you are alive
the willingness
right
I think they were very I don't think I could have experienced the death of your friend without
I would have I would have run
I would bring my
that I I would have known that myself
you know that there are more people
we are ready
you know it's not any easier
I have a greater
not as much anger thing you
we'll have a have a great
and also because I can't do anything
another thing is very close to my recovery is meeting
even after the third time I guess or maybe we can make them a priority I don't know
thank you
well I'm
yeah there might
I don't know where I would be
I go to meetings when I look around I think
look at my watch
you know I I I feel nothing I I'm getting nothing
what I'm getting is my subconscious being willing to be there I'm getting another another affirmation
if you are viewing experience the magic in the program is being where you don't want to be looking
on here and that will keep me well
and when you're doing it without knowing what it
home group
thank you
I've got my downtown group hi one of the
the group has a working group in the east and
well in a group of one of the things that is no longer and there are there are other
well
on my own in the wilderness right now
in a recount they
the things that happen in my life in the last few weeks
sometimes it's easier for me to understand how the program works
hawking about what happened to me and how I
and I don't know what that is I don't know what it covers but I know the program is allowed me to be there
the call was very emotionally
a difficult difficult for the people who are in it not really difficult because of the tax
it's hard enough because one of the
after two weeks of the round the side of the call
and
it took me like two seconds despite what you
would you like to try this you all have any kind of any kind
I knew who exactly the Colin who what I did not do was go to the guy who is leading
and
any number
I did I did that okay if this is your thing then we can go on without
and I let him go without
as in one of the steps you need to run from the situation R. recriminations
because the discover card even in ways that are much
you know and all of the cast none of the
a situation that happened
doing anything that would be all are trying to
would only make things worse they would not make
you know you've been trying to convince them not to do it without it
and I don't know if this is a defect or not but I I didn't have I think I have too much pride
that I don't have to take people to work with me
if they want to that they will get their name because they are not going to do the job I want
you know and so willing eager and cooperative and
good because of that
great thank you everybody
to go through that and I think one of the reasons they were able to do it because I was
and I was willing to look for a loose
going forward in the direction that we all wanted to go forward
the day after he told me he was leaving another member of the cast you know I don't
right
so what I did with tell me the five minutes before curtain
so one product I went like
and I laid out if you think that happened
I don good ratings the second guys now
I'm thinking maybe this is what I
hi
and the
that I
you agreed with what I
would like
you know and and I did it
none of the other cast
because they were the right one it was announced that another we would have to close
and that we would expect consequence but I didn't want you know I did the
I did work with the ethical and
I didn't put a gun
I think we also note
one
that wraps either
I was able to walk through the
I didn't have to
I didn't have any idea
I didn't do any of those things that I might have done that would normally I didn't
have the right
you know I go someplace you have like a
is that what the restaurants around you know the past accomplishment
you know a lot of
get me through the
right but you know
what do you know if I can have a dear friend
I can walk with the same kind of what I call talent
one of the things that also help you with this when I talk about these things back to work I want to talk about having walked
you know it knowing that I will thank
things in my life in a way make golf more compact
for myself and others and I naturally
and that comes from here and only here
the program it has been arrested in my life I came here somebody who needed that didn't even know why you know I sort of walked out of a hole in the in the in the fog
you're looking at all these guys coming back looking like one of those compounds that never really happened
I came here a
with with
all my friends
and we're going to put the car in the parking lot
good riddance thank god nothing
I have experience in being given all of the things in my life that I would get
as an alcoholic
how being at the right party drinking with the right people the right
things we have to
you know that my dear well power would make these things happen my magnificent
you know it is like being here
by being willing to be here I have a
normal life today I think one of the reasons that I walk through what I do is because my life isn't one that
well my life is one thing that many I know the last time I had in my life the more I get
you know being the more things I have in my life more
with all of them and I don't care about
I generally end up with a little
there is
well if I can remember it
on page one hundred the only number I can call
and it goes something to the effect that then as you walk the journey you will be amazed
your life
are quite often enough
he will always be better than nothing
or your I could never afford this kind of a life
I don't think I could have ever hearing
the kind of love that I
and the living sometimes way out Hollis damage
but I do experience
that
people who are having a hard time or having a good time
on cloud nine
coming back
but you've got a thing out here
it gets better if you're not here I don't deny the people outside of the program these laws
but they won't let this program bring to them
and I'm so grateful that I thanks for