Bob S., Jr. from Naconda, TX Alanon speaker at the 2002 Illinois State conference in Chicago, IL
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd
like
to
start
by
thanking
the
committee
that
made
it
possible
for
me
to
be
here
and
to
make
this
thing
run
as
well
as
it
has.
I
know
these
things
don't
just
happen.
A
lot
of
people
did
a
lot
of
hard
work.
How
about
let's
hear
it
for
the
committee.
There's
still
a
few
seats
up
here
in
the
half
measures
row.
If
any
of
you
are
interested.
My
name
is,
Bob
Smith,
and
I'm
an
Al
Anon.
I
got
here
like
most
Al
Anon's.
I
love
an
alcoholic.
My
wife,
Betty,
who
died
4
years
ago,
was,
a
member
of,
AA,
19
years
sober
when
she
died,
And,
I
came
into
the
program,
I
started
this
journey
with
you
in
April
of
79.
Oh,
and
I
gotta
tell
you
this,
I
went
to
Memphis
to
a
meeting,
a
Al
Anon
meeting.
Never
had
been
there
before.
Lady
came
up
and
handed
me
a
newcomers
packet.
Well,
to
show
you
I'm
getting
better,
I
thanked
her.
I
didn't
say
anything,
and
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
I
took
the
newcomers
packet
and
put
it
in
the
back
of
the
room.
I
didn't
feel
obliged
to
tell
her
I'd
been
in
the
program
20
3
years,
so
I'm
getting
better.
I
think
to
be
an
Al
Anon,
there's
4
things
that
I
must
do.
I
must
live
the
steps.
I
must
abide
by
the
traditions.
I
think
I
must
attend
meetings
regularly,
and
I
think
I
need
to
have
a
sponsor,
and
I
do
these
things.
And
one
of
the
parts
of
our
triangle,
both
programs,
is,
service.
And
I'd
like
to
tell
you
that
I
jumped
right
into
service.
It's
not
the
way
it
happened.
My
sponsor
goaded
me
into
it,
but
I've
been
the
GR,
been
the
Doctor.
I
served
3
years
with
the
west
Texas
assembly.
And
several
years
ago,
I
got
a
call
from
our
central
office
asking
me
if
I
would
consider
being
a
candidate
for
trustee
at
large
for
all
of
Al
Anon.
And
I
prayed
about
it,
and
I
seemed
to
have
the
educational
qualifications
for
which
they
search.
I
talked
to
my
group,
and
I
called
them
up
and
said,
yes.
Yes.
Please
put
me
down.
I'd
love
to
be
a
candidate
for
trustee
at
large
for
all
of
Val
and
I.
Guess
what?
I
didn't
get
it.
Well,
of
course,
my
first
thought
was,
if
they
didn't
want
me,
why
did
they
bother
me?
But
what
I
wanna
tell
you
is
my
program
came
to
my
rescue
like
it
always
will
when
I
let
it
and
said,
hey.
Whoever
got
that
position
was
better
qualified,
met
their
needs
better
than
I
would
been
capable
of,
and
maybe
our
heavenly
father
has
something
else
for
me
to
do,
and
I'm
totally
free
of
that.
That's
one
of
the
blessings
that
we
get
in
our
programs,
totally
free
of
that.
Although
I've
only
been
an
Al
Anon
23
years,
I
am
somewhat
of
an
anachronism.
I'm
the
only
person
still
left
that
was
present
when
the
2
fellow
founders
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous
met
for
the
first
time
mother's
day,
Akron,
Ohio,
in
1935.
You
see
my
beloved
sister
Sue
passed
away
February
of
this
year.
And
I'm
the
only
one
left.
It's
kind
of
scary,
you
know,
to
be
the
last
man
standing.
And
then
another
little
thought
has
entered
my
mind.
Nobody
can
say,
now
Bob,
that's
not
the
way
it
happened.
My
dad
had
come
home
on,
mother,
the
day
before
mother's
day
with
a
potted
plant
and
set
it
down.
And
he
was
potted,
went
upstairs
and
passed
out.
Mom
was
a
friend
of
Henrietta
Cyberle,
he
said
Henrietta
called
and
said,
Anne,
there's
a
man
out
here
that
thinks
he
can
help
Bob,
bring
him
right
on
out.
Well,
my
mom
had
explained
that
doctor
Bob
was
in
no
shape
to
talk
to
anybody,
but
she
said,
I'll
get
him
out
there
the
next
day.
So
I
rode
out
with
the
2
of
them.
He
had
a
terrible
hangover.
He
said
one
of
the
worst
he
ever
had
in
his
life.
And
as
we
rode
along,
he
said,
15
minutes
of
this
bird
is
all
I
want.
But
folks,
it
wasn't
15
minutes.
He
and
Bill
went
off
in
the
room
by
themselves,
and
they
talked
many
hours.
And
as
a
result
of
that
meeting
and
at
my
mom's
invitation,
Bill
came
and
he
lived
at
our
house
all
that
summer.
And
this
is
a
time
and
place
that
the
alcoholics
anonymous
program
was
formulated.
We
lived
in
a
one
industry
town,
Akron,
Ohio.
They
made
tires,
Goodyear,
Goodrich,
General
Firestone,
Cyberlink,
Miller
were
all
there.
Well,
when
the
depression
hit,
people
stopped
buying
cars
and
they
didn't
need
tires.
So
there
were
a
tier
after
tier
of
repo
cars
there
in
Akron,
and
there
were
strong
men
on
the
street
corners
selling
apples
for
5¢
apiece
to
try
and
support
their
families.
That's
how
tough
things
were.
But
again,
I
think
maybe
that
was
providence
erased
because
people
had
more
time
for
each
other.
They
were
not
as
hurried
and
harried
as
we
are
today,
and
this
was
absolutely
necessary
to
get
the
feed
in
from
early
AA
members.
They
had
to
have
time
to
visit,
time
to
talk,
time
to
think
about
it.
I
wanna
tell
you
about
my
dad.
You
know,
I
look
at
those
pictures
of
doctor
Bob,
and
he
just
looks
so
grim.
Well,
you'd
have
loved
the
guy.
He
wasn't
that
way
at
all.
But
I
brought
my
bride
to
be
home
for
the
folks
to
look
over
just
before
we
were
married
in
the
early
19
forties.
My
wife
is
tall
and
slender,
and
dad
looked
her
over,
and
he
got
me
aside
and
said,
she's
built
for
speed
and
light
housekeeping.
And
I'd
like
to
share
with
you
his
sex
and
hygiene
lecture
to
me
as
a
teenager.
He
got
me
up
in
the
bathroom
one
day
and
closed
the
door,
and
I
thought,
oh,
I'm
gonna
find
out
all
about
it
now.
He
said
to
me,
flies
spread
disease.
Keep
yours
buttoned.
Now
this
guy
was
a
surgeon,
distinguished
man,
but
he
was
the
best
sport
in
the
world.
He
wanted
to
go
back
to
Vermont
and
up
into
Canada
one
time,
and
he
had
some
sort
of
an
old
car
that
used
a
lot
of
gasoline
and
wasn't
very
reliable.
And
I
had
bought
a
Ford
Roadster
for
less
than
$30,
And
he
said,
do
you
think
that
thing
will
run
to
Vermont
and
then
up
into
Canada?
And
I
said,
yeah.
I
think
it
will,
dad.
It
runs
good.
But
I
said,
the
reason
I
got
it,
it's
so
cheap.
It
doesn't
have
the
top.
I
said,
what
are
we
gonna
do
when
it
rains?
He
said,
we're
going
to
get
wet.
And
anyway,
he
and
another
high
school
buddy
and
I
toured
all
through
New
England
and
Canada,
and
that
old
Ford
Roadster
just
had
a
wonderful
time.
He
was
a
graduate
of
Dartmouth,
one
of
the
Ivy
League
colleges
back
in
the
east,
and,
worked
in
industry
a
couple
of
years,
and
then
prevailed
upon
his
dad
who
was
probate
judge
there
in
St.
Johnsbury,
Vermont,
to
send
him
out
to
Chicago
to
go
to
medical
school.
And
he
busted
out
of
1
medical
school
because
of
his
drinking,
because
it
was
progressive,
like
it
always
is,
but
somehow
managed
to
graduate
and
get
a,
a
coveted
internship
there
at
city
hospital
in
Akron.
It
was
coveted
because
they
had
some
advanced
equipment
and
he
moved
to
Akron
and
married
my
mom
after
a
whirlwind
courtship
of
only
17
years.
Doctor
Bob
thought
things
over
very
carefully.
Some
of
you
may
have
known
Bill.
Bill
was
also
a
tall,
thin
Verma
mater.
They
were
born
within
a
100
miles
of
each
other.
Bill
at
east
Dorset,
my
dad
at
St.
Johnsbury,
total
opposites.
My
dad
was
a
man
of
few
words,
thought
things
over
very
carefully.
Mood
always
went
along
steadily,
very
steady
sort
of
guy.
Bill
was
just
the
opposite.
Bill
was
careless.
Bill
loved
to
talk.
Bill
was
a
visitor.
When
Bill
came
to
visit,
he
was
gonna
stay
a
while
and
talk.
Bill
Smoot
swung.
He
was
either
high
as
a
Georgia
pine
or
low
as
a
snake.
Never
seemed
to
level
out,
but
these
two
guys
never
had
an
argument,
total
opposites.
And
again,
I
think
it
was
providencely
arranged
because,
you
know,
folks,
if
any
2
of
us
are
exactly
alike,
one
of
us
is
unnecessary.
I
remember
in
this
depression,
they
couldn't
raise
$50
between
them,
these
two
guys,
but
they
had
2
things
going
for
them
that
I
could
see.
They
both
had
open
spiritual
minds,
and
they
had
the
desire
to
be
of
service
to
another
human
being.
And
these
are
the
things
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
today.
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
starting
from
nothing,
because
perhaps
there
is
someone
in
this
room
whose
life
is
in
that
shape
right
now.
They
feel
like
there's
just
starting
from
nothing,
starting
over.
And
I
wanna
talk
to
you
about
what
I
consider
to
be
miracles.
The
program,
miracles,
absolute
miracles.
Can
you
imagine
what
it's
like
in
my
eyes,
seeing
it
start
from
2
guys,
couldn't
raise
$50
to
millions
of
people
all
over
the
world?
This
program
has
had
a
lot
of
help
from
a
loving
God,
and
I
think
he
has
allowed
these
miracles,
and
most
of
us
here
are
miracles.
And
I
wanna
talk
to
you
about
recovery.
What
worked?
What
didn't
work?
How
did
they
do
it?
Well,
the
first
guy
that
they
thought
about
and
picked
up
was
a
young
man
by
the
name
of
Eddie
R.
Eddie
had
just
been
thrown
out
of
his
house
for
non
payment
of
rent
with
a
cute
little
blonde
wife
and
2
stair
step
kids.
So
they
moved
the
whole
family
into
our
house.
We
still
had
a
house,
just
barely.
Took
Eddie
upstairs
and
locked
him
in
the
upstairs
where
he'd
be
available
as
they
got
this
knowledge.
Hey,
you
gotta
remember,
there's
nothing
written.
They're
just
trying
to
stay
a
page
ahead
of
Eddie.
But
Eddie
was
an
agile
young
guy,
and
we
had
downspouts.
And
Eddie
would
open
the
2nd
story
window,
slide
down
the
downspouts,
and
escape.
And
they
would
have
to
postpone
Eddie's
recovery
long
enough
to
recapture
him.
Can
you
imagine
a
more
inauspicious
startup,
a
wonderful
program?
Well,
when
Eddie
sobered
up,
he
had
a
few
things
that
hadn't
surfaced,
and
he
began
beating
up
on
this
little
wife
to
whom
he
was
married.
Then
he
began
chasing
my
mom
around
the
house
with
a
butcher
knife.
So
we
held
a
group
conscience
meeting
him,
and
it
was
decided
the
only
thing
for
to
do
with
Eddie
was
for
his
little
wife
to
take
him
back
to
Ann
Arbor,
Michigan
and
recommit
him
in
a
mental
institution.
And
Bill
and
dad
were
crestfallen.
Here's
their
first
attempt
to
sober
another
alcoholic
total
failure.
But
I
wanna
tell
you
folks
something.
At
my
dad's
funeral,
15
years
later,
a
guy
walked
up
to
me
and
he
said,
do
you
know
me?
And
I
looked
over
at
him,
and
I
said,
yeah.
I
know
you.
You're
Eddie.
And
he
said,
that's
right.
And
he
said,
I
want
you
to
know,
I'm
a
member
of
the
Youngstown,
Ohio
AA
group,
and
I've
been
sober
1
year.
So
we
don't
know
the
result
of
these
12
SIP
calls.
Our
part
is
just
take
that
hand
that
reaches
out
for
help.
I
don't
think
we're
responsible
at
all
for
the
result.
Our
part
is
to
go,
make
the
call,
take
care
of
the
person
the
best
we
can
go
with
what
we
got.
You
don't
have
to
be
fully
qualified
to
make
a
12
step
call
or
nobody
to
ever
make
one.
You
go
right?
You
go
with
what
you
have
at
the
time.
We
began
taking
these
alcoholics
into
our
home.
Now
I
was
a
teenager
at
the
time.
My
sister
was
too.
Let
me
ask
you
this.
Were
any
of
you
like
me
raised
in
a
home
of
active
alcoholism?
Would
you
raise
your
hand?
Okay.
Wow.
Let
me
touch
on
that
for
just
a
moment,
if
I
may.
I
think
we
reached
adulthood
with
some
scars.
I
don't
doubt
that.
I
think
we
learned
to
cope
with
our
situation
in
ways.
I
was
a
runner.
I
got
out
of
that
house
and
stayed
out
as
long
as
I
could
because
you
never
knew
what
you're
going
to
find
when
you
got
home.
There
are
other
ways
of
coping.
But
the
thing
that
I
must
guard
against
is
not
to
allow
myself
to
get
into
a
victim
mindset.
You
know,
all
the
screw
ups
I
did,
all
the
things
I
was
supposed
to
do
and
didn't
do,
they're
not
my
fault.
I'm
a
victim.
I'm
a
victim
of
an
alcoholic
home,
and
this
works.
It
works
great,
but
right
up
front,
there's
a
price
to
pay
for
me.
And
that
is
in
order
to
keep
that
thing
going,
I
must
increasingly
resent
either
a
person
or
a
place
or
group
of
things
or
group
of
people
increasingly
resent
that.
And
my
program
has
taught
me
a
long
time
ago.
The
one
thing
that
will
destroy
us
is
resentment.
So
I
don't
look
at
myself
as
a
victim.
I
look
at
myself
as
a
survivor.
And
fortunately,
both
of
our
programs
tell
us
how
to
do
that,
how
to
be
a
survivor.
Well,
we
began
taking
this
wet
alcoholics
into
our
home.
Now,
remember,
Susie
and
I
were
teenagers,
and
you
can
imagine
a
home
full
of
wet
drums.
Oh,
it
was
exciting.
This
was
recovery.
My
dad,
being
the
only
medical
man
associated
with
this
fledgling
movement,
would
take
a
new
guy
upstairs
and
say,
now,
fella,
I'm
gonna
give
you
a
shot
of
whiskey,
but
I
want
you
to
take
this
medicine
first.
And
it
was
peraldehyde.
He
knows
pyraldehyde
is
a
very
pungent
sedative.
So
when
my
sister,
Susie,
and
I
opened
the
front
door
coming
home
from
school,
if
we
smelled
pyraldehyde,
we
knew
we'd
lost
our
bed.
Soon
as
he
went
to
the
couch,
I
went
to
the
attic,
but
we
didn't
mind.
This
was
recovery.
We
get
to
see
him
come
in
with
the
blank
eyes.
You
know,
there's
nothing
there.
Pretty
soon,
a
little
twinkle.
Then
pretty
soon,
you've
got
a
viable
human
being
on
your
hands,
and
it
was
great.
This
was
recovery
so
much
better
than
it
had
been.
Bill
and
dad
developed
a
standard
diet
that
they
took
the
new
alcoholics
through.
They
brought
them
downstairs.
They
had
knocked
him
out
from
24
to
36
hours.
He
gave
him
a
terrific
jolt.
But
when
the
guy
came
to,
they
brought
him
downstairs
and
started
the
food,
you
know,
to
settle
the
nerves
and
get
the
mind
going
again.
This
is
a
diet,
canned
tomatoes,
sauerkraut.
Bill
had
an
ulcer,
and
he
thought
sauerkraut
cured
everything,
and
Karo
syrup.
I
think
you'll
agree
the
early
alcoholics
were
a
hearty
group.
I
wanna
talk
to
you
about
somebody
that
nobody
knows
anything
about,
and
that's
my
mom.
And
I
think
maybe
she
wanted
it
that
way.
Mom
was
a
graduate
of
Wellesley,
one
of
the
fine
women's
colleges
back
in
the
east,
and
she
went
there
on
a
scholarship.
And
her
great
uncle
was
president
of
the
Santa
Fe
railroad.
And
at
that
time,
the
president
of
railroad
had
his
own
private
cars
and
could
tie
onto
trains
wherever
trains
went.
And
they
were
very
opulent
and
he
liked
mom
and
he
would
take
her
with
him
sometimes.
So
she
got
to
see
the
jaunty
opulent
side
of
life.
Mom
was
a
school
teacher.
Mom
had
led
a
very
sheltered
and
protected
life
and
was
very
easily
shocked
until
AA.
But
remember,
this
is
the
lady
that
said,
hey,
she
didn't
say
come
over
and
have
soup
with
us
next
Tuesday,
Bill.
She
said,
Bill,
come
live
with
us.
Isn't
that
a
miracle?
And
another
thing,
remember
Bill
lived
in
New
York
city
and
we
lived
in
Akron,
Ohio.
There's
another
miracle.
Bill
said,
okay.
And
mom
wrote
to
Lois
and
Lois
came
down
and
visited
that
first
summer.
Lois,
our
beloved,
Illinois
co
founder,
Bill's
wife,
and
stayed
as
long
as
she
could,
but
Lois
had
to
get
back
to
New
York
city.
You
gotta
remember
Lois
is
the
only
one
that
had
a
job,
Well,
it
was
the
start
of
a
friendship
that
lasted
until
Lois's
death
in
not
too
distant
past,
but
now,
mom
was
the
one
that
was
making
the
beds,
and
mom
was
the
one
that
was
cooking
the
food,
and
mom
was
the
one
that
was
cleaning
up
the
messes,
and
mom
was
the
one
that
was
on
the
telephone
because
we
began
there
began
to
be
an
interest
in
these
what
these
guys
were
doing.
Mom
was
the
one
that
made
everybody
stay
there
and
have
a
quiet
time
in
the
morning
that
they
might
feel
not
near
to
God.
Mom
was
the
one
in
1936
started
a
movement
for
the
wives
of
alcoholics,
where
she
tried
to
teach
them
in
her
loving
way,
the
tolerance
and
patience
and
love.
So
she
saw
from
the
word
go
that
it
was
a
program
that
affected
the
whole
family.
I
was
the
one
that
endured
the
snubs.
You
know,
Alcoholics
Anonymous
was
not
an
instant
success.
It
was
thought
of
as
a
cult
and
a
bunch
of
nuts.
We
even
got
kicked
out
of
the
Presbyterian
Church
on
account
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
and
I
never
heard
of
anybody
getting
kicked
out
of
the
Presbyterian
Church,
but
we
were.
So
you
see,
it
wasn't
an
easy
thing.
And
mom
never
lost
faith
in
these
2
guys
that
they
couldn't
make
something
of
this.
Mom
took
up
smoking
when
she
was
50.
Maybe
these
guys
had
something
to
do
with
it.
But
anyway,
I
said,
mom,
you're
not
gonna
start
smoking
now,
are
you?
And
she
said,
well,
if
you
wait
till
you're
50,
I
won't
say
anything.
It
was
in
the
depression,
and
a
mom
got
a,
a,
an
economy
kick
on,
and
she
thought
she
would
make
her
own
cigarettes,
quit
buying
the
TaylorMade,
you
know?
So
she
bought
a
Target
machine.
Have
any
of
you
ever
seen
a
Target
machine?
Well,
it's
a
little
device
that
you
laid
the
paper
in
a
trough,
and
you
sprinkle
the
tobacco
on,
and
you
took
a
lever
and
put
it
over
in
back,
and
you
had
a
cigarette.
Well,
my
sister
and
I
thought
this
was
a
little
bit
beneath
our
class,
so
we
volunteered
to
make
her
some
cigarettes.
But
instead
of
using
tobacco,
we
used
shavings
out
of
the
pencil
sharpener.
Well,
when
she
lit
the
first
one,
of
course,
the
fire
didn't
go
out.
After
2
of
these
or
3
of
these,
she
said,
you
know,
these
aren't
nearly
as
good
as
those
lucky
strikes.
Mom
always
sat
at
the
back
of
the
door
of
the
meeting
room.
You
see
the
early
AA
meetings
were
open
meetings.
Greeted
everyone
that
came
in
the
door,
always
wore
the
same
old
black
dress.
And
when
dad
got
back
on
his
feet
financially,
mom
got
3
new
dresses
and
somebody
said,
Anne,
you're
gonna
wear
one
of
your
new
dresses
to
the
meeting
tonight.
And
she
said,
oh
no,
I'm
gonna
wear
the
old
black
dress.
There'll
be
somebody
come
through
that
door
that
can't
afford
a
new
dress.
And
that
was
my
mom.
Mom
died
in
49.
We
attended
the
1st
international
Cleveland
in
1950,
and
that's
where
they
adopted
the
12
traditions.
Now
Bill
had
gone
around
the
country
stomping
for
these
traditions,
and
groups
were
then
like
they
are.
Now
they
said,
Bill,
go
on
back
to
New
York
and
run
that
like
you
want
to.
We'll
run
this
like
we
want
to.
They
weren't
paying
attention
to
it.
So
at
that
first
international,
6
guys
got
up
and
each
of
them
read
2
of
the
traditions
and
they
adopted
them
unanimously.
And
I
say
thank
the
good
Lord
for
that
because
those
are
the
things
that
the
glue
that
holds
us
together,
folks.
Those
12
traditions
are
the
glue
that
holds
us
together.
And
again,
I
think
they
were
a
miracle,
absolutely
inspired.
Because,
now,
think
about
them.
They're
damage
control.
Somehow
they
took
care
of
some
of
the
all
the
things
that
would
have
caused
AA
to
just
blow
apart.
Let
me
give
you
one
of
the
little
miracles.
Money,
We're
self
supporting
through
our
own
contribution
period.
You
know,
in
the
early
days,
the
whiskey
distillers
wanted
to
give
a
big
bucks.
Yeah.
Wanted
to
give
a
big
money
because,
the
alcoholic
laying
out
in
the
gutter
is
not
very
good
press,
but
somehow
they
had
the
courage
to
say
no
because
there
would
have
been
some
strings
attached.
I'm
sure
they
would've
expected
something
in
return.
Isn't
that
a
miracle?
Even
though
they
were
so
broke,
they
learned
they
did
not
accept
that
money.
My
dad
was
terminally
ill,
dying
of
cancer
at
the
time.
And,
his
work
was
pretty
well
over,
you
know,
dad
only
lived
15
years,
but
isn't
that
like
the
time
he
personally
treated
without
charge
medically
and
AA
wise
over
5,000
alcoholics.
He,
he
was
mister
12
step.
He
was
good
at
it.
And
a
new
guy
would
come
in
his
office,
and
he'd
ask
him,
do
you
believe
in
God?
The
guy
said
yes.
Said,
okay,
let's
get
down
on
our
knees.
And
he
got
down
on
his
knees
with
him,
and
that's
the
way
he
did
it.
And
his
success
rate
was
terrific.
He
ran
a
little,
you
know,
they're
running
75%
of
better
success
rate
those
early
days.
But
anyway,
dad
was
very,
very
ill
and
wanted
to
go
back
to
his
beloved
Vermont
one
more
time.
And
so
my
wife
and
I
had
loaded
him
in
the
car,
drove
back
to
Vermont,
to
his
home.
And
I
wouldn't
take
for
the
caring
and
sharing
that
we
did
as
we
rode
along
the
road
together,
sitting
on
the
edge
of
the
bed
at
night
and
in
the
car.
And
we
brought
him
back
to
Akron,
Ohio.
And
I
had
I
had
a
flying
job
out
of
Dallas
at
the
time,
and
I
had
to
get
back
to
work.
I
never
saw
my
dad
alive
again.
You
see,
my
mom
had
died
the
year
before,
and
he
was
very
sick
and
very
lonely.
But
what
a
wonderful
guy
he
was.
What
a
what
a
great
guy
he
was.
Bill
invited,
my
wife
and
I
to
the
2nd
international
in
1951.
That's
the
one
where
the
religious
people
gave
talks.
People
who
were
in
religions
of
different
kind
loved
AA
when
AA
wasn't
cool.
Gave
talks,
doctor
Sam
Schumacher
from
New
York
and
father
Ed
Dowling
from
Saint
Louis.
And
these
talks
are
recorded
word
for
word,
and
they're
beautiful.
They're
in
the
book,
a
comes
of
age,
a
chapter
religion
looks
at
a
a
a,
if
any
of
you
are
interested.
Then
we
did
not
attend
an
international
for
some
time.
AA
was
doing
well.
The
media
got
a
hold
of
it.
It
became
an
absolute
day
lose,
you
know,
the
word
got
out
in
our
area
that
there
was
a
doctor
in
Akron,
Ohio
could
fix
drunks.
And
they
came
in
on
the
bus
and
on
the
train
dropped
off
by
loving
relatives,
Dropped
off
by
relatives
who
weren't
so
loving.
And
again,
our
heavenly
father
provided
the
right
person.
Sister
Ignatia
was
the
admitting
nurse
at
a
hospital
Catholic
hospital
there
in
Akron.
And
she
and
dad
prevailed
upon
the
mother's
superior
to
allow
them
to
establish
an
alcoholic
ward
where
many
people
could
be
admitted
with
a
disease
of
alcoholism,
not
under
some
guys
like
gastroenteritis,
but
of
alcoholism.
It
was
just
a
small
room.
It
had
7
cots
in
it.
It
was
a
flower
room,
you
know,
where
they
trimmed
the
flowers
for
the
patients
and
rearranged
them.
I've
often
thought
what
the
early
alcoholics
thought
when
they
came
to
and
looked
around.
There's
nothing
but
flowers.
Must
have
been
quite
a
joke.
But
anyway,
that
facility
is
still
in
that
hospital,
still
in
operation,
occupies
the
whole
5th
floor
now,
but
it
was
a
beginning.
As
I
said,
my
wife
and
I
didn't
intend
any
attend
any
of
the
more
internationals.
You
see,
we
were
party
animals.
We
loved
to
dance
and
we
loved
to
drink,
and
I
sure
wasn't
telling
anybody
my
father
was
doctor
Bob
Smith.
But
once
in
a
while,
somebody
would
find
out
about
it
and
invite
us
to
come
to
a
meeting,
and
we
would
go
and
enjoy
it.
And
as
we
rode
home,
we'd
say,
oh,
good
for
them.
Yeah.
They
needed
that.
All
the
while
alcoholism
was
working
in
our
home.
Betty
put
her
dad
in
a
drying
out
place
in
Denver
in
1944,
and
he
and
other
guys
started
AA
in,
New
Mexico.
So
if
there
was
ever
2
human
beings
that
should
have
recognized
alcoholism,
it
was
my
wife
and
me,
but
we
didn't.
You
see,
we
were
different.
I
see
some
of
you
thought
you
were
different,
But,
alcoholism,
as
far
as
I've
been
concerned,
was
3
parts,
fun,
fun
and
problems,
problems.
And
we
were
well
into
the
problem
area.
We
didn't
just
jump
right
into
AA.
We
began
doing
little
things
to
adjust
to
see
if
we
couldn't,
do
better.
Let
me
tell
you
a
little
story
about
2
hunters
that
loved
to
hunt
way
up
in
the
wilds
of
Alaska,
and
they
would
have
an
aviation
company
fly
them
in,
land
on
a
lake,
leave
them,
and
pick
them
up
a
week
later.
So
the
plane
came
in,
landed,
and
the
pilot
one
of
the
hunters
said
to
the
pilot,
oh,
we're
so
glad
to
see
you.
We
had
a
wonderful
we
got
3
moose.
The
pilot
said,
3
moose,
you
2
guys
and
me
in
this
airplane?
I
don't
think
so.
1
of
the
others
said,
don't
worry
about
it.
Said,
man
came
in
with
a
plane
exactly
like
yours
last
year,
and
we
had
3
moves.
What
he
did
was
he
taxied
up
the
river
and
got
a
log
or
run
for
takeoff,
and
he
didn't
have
any
trouble
taking
off.
So
pilot
thought,
well,
I'm
new
with
the
company.
I
gotta
try
it.
So
he
did,
and
sure
enough,
the
little
plane
takes
off,
and
they
start
heading
back
towards
civilization.
But
the
engine
is
working
so
hard.
It
begins
to
overheat
and
lose
its
power,
and
way
out
in
the
middle
of
the
wilderness,
it
crashes.
Well,
one
of
the
hunters
drags
his
buddy
out
from
under
the
plane
and
his
buddy
looked
around
and
said,
Oh,
where
in
the
world
are
we?
The
other
said,
you
know,
I
think
we're
within
a
100
yards
of
where
we
crashed
last
year.
And
that
was
us
trying
the
same
thing
over
and
over
and
expecting
a
different
result.
Man.
Well,
when
it
finally
got
bad
enough,
my
wife
went
to
AA.
Young
guy
called
her
up
and
said,
babe,
we're
starting
a
group
here
in
Ocona,
Texas
for
people
have
a
problem
like
you,
will
you
come?
And
she
said,
yes.
And
she
came,
and
she
never
took
another
drink.
Hiding
on
by
her
fingernails.
She
said,
I
wouldn't
recommend.
That's
the
way
to
do
it.
But
she
said,
I'll
tell
you
one
thing.
You
won't
forget
it.
Never
took
another
drink.
Well,
she's
working
her
program
so
well
and
so
hard,
she's
running
off
and
leaving
me.
Yeah.
She's
doing
the
things
that
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
and
left
me
back
in
the
dust.
And
I
thought,
wow.
This
is
really
a
program
of
attraction
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
So
somebody
said,
well,
Bob,
why
don't
you
go
to
Al
Nod?
And
I
thought,
well,
why
not?
I
don't
mind
joining
the
auxiliary.
So
I
got
my
car
and
I
drove
40
miles
to
the
east
of
Gainesville,
Texas
to
my
first
Al
Anon
meeting.
I
walk
in
there
and
I
look
around
and
I'm
the
only
guy,
room
full
of
women.
I'm
the
only
man.
Well,
I
immediately
got
mixed
emotions
about
Al
Anon.
I
like
to
describe
mixed
emotions
this
way.
It's
kinda
like
the
feeling
you
get
when
your
teenage
daughter
comes
in
at
4
in
the
morning
with
a
Gideon
Bible
on
her
arm.
But
I
stayed
and
I
really
laid
a
trip
on
those
gals,
you
know,
told
them
the
rock
that'd
been
holding
the
family
together,
bloody,
but
unbowed.
You
know,
they
listened
very
patiently.
And
I
left
there
knowing
I'd
made
a
wonderful
impression.
These
things
are
revealed
to
us,
you
know,
as
we
can
handle
them.
Few
years
later,
I
talked
to
Anne,
one
of
the
ladies
was
there,
and
she
said,
oh
yeah,
I
remember
that
meeting,
Bob.
After
you
left,
we
held
a
meeting.
And
we
said,
there's
one
that's
not
gonna
make
it.
But
I
blessed
that
bunch
there,
my
home
group,
and
have
been
all
this
time.
Where
did
the
ideas
come
from?
Bill
in
New
York
city
for
6
months.
And
my
folks
in
Akron,
Ohio
had
belonged
to
an
organization
called
the
Oxford
group.
Now
the
Oxford
group
was
started
by
a
Lutheran
minister
from
Pennsylvania.
The
basic
principles
of
it
was
back
to
1st
century
spirituality.
They
had
meetings
they
shared
with
each
other.
They
had,
they
had
a
form
of
a
fist
step.
They
talked
to
each
other.
They
had
the
4
absolutes
that
are
been
incorporated
on
our
program.
Absolute
honesty,
absolute
unselfishness,
absolute
purity
of
thought
and
absolute
love
many,
many
things
that
we
picked
up
and
use
in
our
program
today
comes
from
the
Oxford
group.
We
owe
those
people
a
tremendous
debt
of
gratitude,
but
it
was
inevitable
that
we
part,
You
see
the,
the
Oxford
group
catered
to
the
upper
middle
class
and
the
early
alcoholics
were
not
upper
middle
class.
The
Oxford
group
wanted
publicity
and
the
alcoholics
already
had
all
the
publicity
they
wanted,
and
they
had
a
form
of
a
fist
step.
They
would
take
a
new
guy
upstairs
in
one
of
the
bedrooms
at
t
Henry
Williams'
house
and
bore
in
on
him
till
he
finally
confessed
what
his
problem
was.
And
it
must
have
really
worked
a
more,
I
can
see
in
my
mind's
eye,
the
guy
coming
down
pretty
ashen
faced.
But
anyway,
folks,
this
was
a
form
of
open
confession
and
it
was
not
acceptable
to
people
in
the
Catholic
faith.
Now,
I
don't
know
whether
you
realize
it
or
not,
but
there
are
Catholics
that
drink
too
much.
So
anyway,
it
was
inevitable
that
we
part
and
it
was
a
difficult
parting,
but
something
that
that
absolutely
had
to
be
done.
Also,
some
of
the
ideas
came
from
God's
big
book.
You
know,
God
has
his
only
big
book.
Came
from
the
13th
Corinthians,
the
Sermon
on
the
Mount,
the
book
of
James,
which
is
all
of
you
know
his
faith
without
works
is
dead.
All
these
things
were
used
to
weave
into
a
formula
program
that
we
have
today.
Our
recovery
was
difficult.
We
had
a
lot
of
anger
between
us,
a
lot
more
than
I
really
had
realized,
and
it
was
difficult
working
our
way
through
this
anger.
We
had
to
establish
boundaries
for
each
other.
Sometimes
we
had
to
just
walk
away.
Sometimes
we
used
the
little
slogans
that
we
picked
up
like,
oh,
I
didn't
know
you
thought
that
way
about
it.
Or
this
is
my
favorite
ones.
You
may
be
right.
You
know,
it's
within
the
realm
of
possibility.
But
we
both
worked
our
programs,
and
it
was
such
a
wonderful
blessing
for
this
family.
Thank
God
the
program
was
there
when
we
needed
it,
just
like
it
was
there
when
each
of
you
needed
it.
I
had
to
learn
that
our
relationship
didn't
have
to
be
5050.
Sometimes
it's
9010.
Sometimes
it's
1090,
And
what's
the
difference?
I
had
to
learn
to
peel
away
the
past,
and
the
past
dies
hard.
But
I
had
some
wonderful,
wonderful
blessings
that
occurred
along
the
way.
I
learned
about
a
loving
God.
You
know,
I
was
I
was
raised
in
the
Episcopal
church.
That's
Catholic
light.
And
God
was
used
to
improve
my
conduct.
And
I
didn't
much
like
that
when
I
got
to
be
an
adult.
And
later
on,
I
was
a
bomber
pilot
and
flew
45
missions
out
of
Africa,
an
old
B
24,
a
4
engine
liberator.
And
I
had
a
different
relationship
with
God.
I
had
a
911
relationship.
I
made
deals
with
God.
Do
any
of
y'all
any
of
y'all
ever
make
deals
with
God?
Oh,
God.
I
swear
if
you
get
me
out
of
this
one,
I'll
never
and
that
isn't
a
very
loving
relationship.
But
the
programs
have
taught
me
that
my
God
is
my
heavenly
father,
that
we're
all
God's
kids,
Loves
us
just
like
we
are,
wants
us
to
do
better,
but
loves
us
just
like
we
are.
And
what
a
wonderful
blessing.
I
talked
to
God.
I
thank
him
every
night
and
I
pray
to
him
every
morning.
And
I
tried
to
pray
for
other
people,
not
so
much
for
myself.
I
talked
to
him
during
the
day,
just
like
I
could
talk
to
you.
God,
did
you
see
that
SOB
cut
us
off?
Another
one
of
the
blessings.
I
learned
about
honesty.
I
always
thought
I
was
cash
register
honest.
You
know,
the
lady
gave
me
too
much
change.
I'd
say
here,
honey,
you
gave
me
a
quarter
too
much
and
it
just
made
my
day,
you
know,
here
I
am
totally
honest.
And
also
the
next
step
may
be
what
I
call
resume
honesty.
You
know,
you
tell
the
truth,
but
you
gussy
it
up
a
little
bit
so
you
look
good.
That's
not
program
honesty.
The
program
honesty
is
absolute
honesty.
When
I
can
show
you
me
warts
and
all,
and
you
do
the
same
for
me,
we
can
have
an
instant,
intimate
friendship.
And
I
know
of
no
other
organizations
in
the
world
that
this
works.
And
what
this
does
for
me,
and,
perhaps
for
some
of
you,
it
dispels
loneliness.
I
wanna
talk
to
you
just
briefly
about
what
I
consider
a
few
miracles.
Let
me
run
some
of
them
by
you.
Because
I
think
these
whole
programs
are
miracles,
guided
by
a
loving
heavenly
father.
Money.
You
know,
Bill
and
dad
were
dead
broke
and
they
thought,
oh,
wouldn't
it
be
wonderful
if
we
had
a
bunch
of
dough
for
this
movement?
We've
had,
we
could
establish
treatment
centers.
My
father
could
see
himself.
I'm
sure
in
his
white
coat,
reading
the
patients
and
maybe
Bill
out
on
the
streets,
flagging
them
in,
you
know?
So
they
went
to
New
York
and
met
with
people
with
deep,
deep
pockets,
and
mister
Rockefeller
and
his
group
listened
very
carefully
and
then
said,
no,
money
will
ruin
it.
Now
that's
a
miracle.
Now
just
think
what
might
have
happened
in
your
mind's
eye
if
mister
Rockefeller
and
his
group
had
dumped
a
$1,000,000
on
a
100
broke
alcoholics.
That's
horrible
to
even
think
about,
ain't
it?
Miracle.
Anonymity.
In
the
early
days
of
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
there
were
people
with
huge
egos.
Now
I
know
we
don't
have
that
anymore,
but
you
can't
be
mister
a
a
or
missus
Al
Anon
if
nobody
knows
what
your
name
is.
And
another
thing
that
has
done,
it
doesn't
make
any
difference
if
you've
been
here
40
days
or
40
years.
We're
all
exactly
the
same.
And
isn't
that
the
way
it
should
be?
Miracle.
God,
as
we
understood
him,
that
was
incorporated
in
the
steps
to
quite
a
loud
mouth
agnostic
by
the
name
of
Jimmy
b.
And
Jimmy
said,
this
god
stuff
will
ruin
it.
It'll
run
them
out
faster
than
we
can
drag
them
in.
So
to
quiet
to
be
down,
they
put
God
as
we
understood
him.
What
that
has
done,
folks,
that
has
allowed
these
programs
to
go
completely
through
the
entire
world.
People
who
have
an
entirely
different
concept
of
a
higher
power
than
perhaps
you
and
me.
Just
the
one
thing.
It's
another
little
miracle.
If
you're
new
here
and
your
life
is
right
on
the
bottom,
and
you
think
you're
just
starting
from
nothing,
So
did
these
programs.
So
did
these
programs.
It
started
working
when
they
surrendered.
If
you
think
that
you're
in
bad
need
of
a
miracle,
these
programs
are
absolute
miracles,
and
every
one
of
us
sitting
in
here
is
a
miracle.
So
I
say
to
you,
talk
to
us.
We
wanna
hear
from
you.
You
don't
bother
us.
You
help
us,
believe
it
or
not.
You
strengthen
us.
Doctor
Albert
Schweitzer,
who
was
a
a,
medical
doctor
in
my
era.
Doctor.
Schweitzer
had
been
a
world
class
organist
and
went
and
got
his
MD,
and
then
went
down
into
darkest
Africa
and
started
hospitals
and
did
nothing
but
that
for
the
rest
of
his
life.
And
doctor
Switzer
said,
I
know
not
what
your
destiny
may
be,
but
this
one
thing
I
do
know,
that
those
among
you
who
will
find
true
happiness
are
those
who
have
sought
and
found
how
to
serve.
So
you
see,
that's
where
our
happiness
is.
If
you
will
let
us
serve
you,
you
don't
bother
us.
You
help
us.
And
you
gotta
remember
every
one
of
us
was
brand
new
at
one
time.
Every
one
of
us.
So
we
know
where
you
are.
So
hang
in
there
with
us,
hang
in
there
with
us.
Don't
you
dare
quit
before
your
miracle.
You've
got
your
own
miracle
coming.
Well,
Betty
and
I
were
going
along
great.
We,
got
all
the
kids
through
school.
1
had
a
bachelor's
who
had
master's
degree
and
one
had
his
doctorate.
And
we
were,
they
were
out
on
their
own.
The
dog
had
finally
died
and
we
were
just
going
along
great.
And
I
got
a
phone
call
one
day.
Scott,
my
oldest
son,
Scott
had
a
master's
degree,
criminal
law
from
the
university
of
Texas
and
was
a
member
of
MENSA.
Well,
the
people,
you
know,
with
a
genius
IQ,
no
problems
with
drug
or
booze
was
top
BMW
salesman
in
Dallas,
went
to
work
one
day
and
something
happened
there.
I
guess
it's
corporate
stress,
went
out
and
sat
down
his
car,
took
out
his
gun,
blew
his
brains
out.
Terrible
thing.
Terrible
thing.
You
know,
no
parent
wants
to
outlive
their
children.
But
what
the
point
I
wanna
make
is
when
this
tragedy
occurred,
the
groups
and
the
people
in
it
took
us
in
took
us
in
their
hands
and
propped
us
up
until
we're
able
to
stand
again.
6
months
later,
my
beloved
wife
came
down
with
lung
cancer,
inoperable
cancer,
and
died
shortly
after
that
solved
within
a
2
year
period.
But
again,
the
groups
and
the
people
in
it
took
me
in
their
hands,
held
out
their
cupped
hands
for
me,
propped
me
up,
took
care
of
me
until
I
was
able
to
stand
for
myself
again.
And
I
don't
tell
you
this
for
sympathy,
because
it's
probably
some
of
these
things
are
going
to
happen
to
you
if
they
already
haven't
happened.
This
is
life
on
life's
terms
folks.
So
that's
one
thing
of
another
beautiful
blessing
that
we
have
in
our
program.
Oh,
I
gotta
tell
you
something.
You
know,
my
God
never
closes
one
door,
but
what
he
doesn't
open
another
one.
I've
got
a
fiance.
We're
both
old,
But
I
wanna
tell
you
this.
You
know
how
us
Al
Anon's
can
home
in
on
an
alcoholic?
We
could
spot
1
at
a
100
yards.
Mona,
my
beloved,
is
25
years
sober
in
AA.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
I've
loved
being
with
you.
I
loved
talking
to
you.
I
hope
we'll
visit
some
more.
Thank
you.