Steve B. from Van Nuys, CA at 19th Annual Singles in Sobriety convention, Lake Murray, OK
Welcome.
He's
all
the
way
from
California
to
talk
to.
Everybody.
I'm
Steve
Bordner.
I'm
an
alcoholic
politics
in
AAI.
Don't
know
what
he's
talking
about.
It's
just
one
big
fellowship
here.
Now
that
we've
stopped
drinking,
our
Halos
shine
and
we
never
argue
about
anything
that
maybe
the
punctuation
in
the
big
book
or
gratitude.
That's
a
controversy.
I
mean,
the
great
thing
about
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
you
never
know
when
1
old
timer
and
a
Walker
is
going
to
get
in
a
fistfight
with
another
old
timer
in
the
Walker
at
an
intergroup
meeting.
You
know,
I
love
that.
Remember,
second
edition
is
my
favorite
edition
of
the
big
Book
and
and
the
professor
in
the
paradox.
He
says
that
Alcoholics
Anonymous
was
born
in
a
riot.
And
so
if
you're
expecting
utopia,
this
is
a
very
human
place.
And
I
don't
think
I
could
have
survived
my
sobriety
days,
May
25th,
1979.
And
I,
I
couldn't
have
survived
in
a
place
that
wasn't
very
human,
which
is
the
most
spiritual
of
all
conditions,
I
think.
I
think
on
6263,
that's
what
Bill's
really
telling
me
now.
Bill
says
that
it
compares
us,
says
we're
an
extreme
example
of
selfishness,
self
centeredness,
not
a
unique
one,
not
even
the
most
extreme.
Sometimes
I
want
to
take
my
alcoholism
and
make
it
a
badge.
Now
make
it
different
than
those
normies,
those
normies
who
don't
have
a
program.
You
know
why
normal
people
don't
have
a
program?
They
don't
need
one.
They
don't
need
a
sponsor
to
tell
me
the
kinds
of
things
my
sponsor
tells
me.
You
know,
if
drinking
is
like
hitting
yourself
in
the
head
with
a
hammer,
most
people
who
do
it
would
do
it
once
and
stop.
And
even
if
they
did
it
compulsively,
they
probably
wouldn't
have
to
go
to
meetings
for
the
rest
of
their
life
not
to
hit
themselves
in
the
head
with
a
hammer.
But
we
come
here
every
day
so
we
don't
hit
ourselves
in
the
head
with
a
hammer
and
we
get
more
spiritual
than
the
rest
of
the
people
on
the
planet.
We
say
those
normies,
they
don't
have
a
program.
That's
right.
This
is
who's
there's
their
first
year,
first
year
of
sobriety.
All
right.
I
am
so
sorry
for
you.
God,
you
are
in
Loserville
here.
You
know,
you
really
screwed
up.
You're
an
Alcoholic's
Anonymous,
the
lamest
place
on
the
face
of
the
earth.
You're
sitting
in
chairs
that
the
Baptist
youth
just
got
out
of
on
a
Friday
night.
Listen
to
some
mook
talk
about
God
so
you
don't
die
with
a
big
liver
out
there.
It's
so
sad
what
has
happened
to
us.
Oh,
you're
an
alcoholic?
No,
so
sad.
I'm
going
to
take
you
know,
it's
just
is.
And
you
know
the
worst
thing
about
ending
up
in
AA
is
all
the
stupid
people
in
your
life
were
right?
All
the
stupid
people,
your
high
school
principal,
you
keep
doing
what
you're
doing,
you're
going
to
get
in
trouble.
The
nuns,
you
keep
doing
what
you
did,
you
got
to
get
in
trouble.
Your
pastor,
your
rabbi,
you
keep
doing
what
you
do
and
you
got
to
get
in
trouble.
Here
you
are,
Friday
night.
Could
be
out
in
the
boat,
drinking,
being
somebody.
Nope,
you're
here.
Listen
to
some
idiot
from
California
when
you
could
have
brought
somebody
in
from
Texas
or
Oklahoma
to
do
this.
Talk
just
as
well
talk
about
God.
Are
you
going
to
die
with
a
big
fat
liver
out
there?
It's
really
sad.
Sad.
Yeah.
Newcomers,
you're
in
a
room
full
of
losers.
These
people
can't
split
a
pint
or
they
will
die.
How
sad
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is,
you
know,
we
really
want
to
think
it's
hip,
especially
in
California.
Everybody,
you
know,
because
I
do.
I've
gone
to
meetings
with
like
four
or
five
Academy
Award
winners
in
the
room
and,
you
know,
lots
of
porn
actresses.
And
I
have
one
friend
says
you
can't
have
too
many
porn
actresses
in
a
movie
and
in
a
meeting.
And
it's
always
nice
to
take
a
group
conscience
on
those
meetings.
And
so
it's
a
little
different
out
there.
But
you
know,
in
California,
you
forget.
You
think
AA
was
started
like
in
Big
Sur?
Laguna
Beach
in
a
hot
tub?
No,
Alcoholics
Anonymous
was
started
in
Akron,
OH,
the
lamest
place
on
the
face
of
the
earth,
in
1935
by
by
men
who
were
more
white
than
Wonder
Bread
and
more
conservative
than
Gurbles,
I
tell
you.
I
mean,
Bill
Wilson
used
to
get
drunk
and
write
letters
to
Franklin
Delano
Roosevelt
commenting
him
a
communist
telling
him
he
needed
to
resign.
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
the
Chevrolet
of
spirituality.
You
don't
astral
project,
you
don't
get
to
go
back
to
Rome
and
meet
your
relative.
You
just
get
to
haul
some
stupid
newcomer
to
a
meeting.
It's
about
as
spiritual
as
it
gets
here,
you
know.
And
if
you're
lucky,
if
it's
real
spiritual,
they'll
vomit
in
your
car.
Yeah,
a
friend
of
mine,
I
just
spoke
at
a
conference
in
this
friend
of
ours
said
this
is
great.
It's
the
best
comment
I've
ever
heard
about
alcoholic
Saddam
has
said
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Staying
sober
a
long
time
and
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
like
getting
kicked
to
death
by
rabbits.
Isn't
that
great?
It's
like
that's
it,
that's
it.
And
you
know,
it's
just
the
practice.
There's
no
place
else
to
go.
I
mean,
I,
I'd
go
somewhere
else,
but
I'll
drink
if
I
do.
And
then
whatever
problems
I've
got
today
with
you
people
will
go
away.
See.
Because
that's
really
the
problem
I
have,
is
you.
It
doesn't
surprise
me.
We
need
to
tell
you
not
to
park
and
no
parking.
Doesn't
surprise
me.
My
God,
we
get
on
airplanes
and
they
say
do
not
disconnect
the
smoke
alarm.
Why
would
you
tell
that
to
somebody
who's
on
an
airplane
that
if
it
catches
on
fire,
they're
going
to
die?
They're
honest
to
God.
In
the
Valley,
there's
a
sign
that
says
all
right,
to
make
a
left
turn.
Here's
the
part
If
safe,
why
do
I
have
to
tell
people
that?
Shouldn't
they
be
able
to
figure
that
out
themselves?
People
tick
me
off.
You
irritate
me.
You
irritate
me
when
you're
not
even
doing
it.
There
was
a
guy
on
the
airplane,
just
the
way
he
was
sitting
down
was
irritating
me.
The
way
people
put
their
luggage
in
the
compartment
irritates
me.
I
get
irritated,
see,
because
that's
the
nature
of
places.
People,
places
and
things,
you
know,
You
get
sober,
you
can
move
different
places.
You
can
go
any
place
you
want.
I
can
move
here.
Great
thing
about
being
an
A
A
and
moving
to
Texas
or
Oklahoma
as
you
people
got
to
accept
me
or
die.
I've
been
all
over
Berlin,
Costa
Rica,
I've
been
to
AA
everywhere.
It's
great.
It's
great.
So
places
I
can
change
things.
I
got
a
few
dollars
in
my
pocket
now
that
I'm
not
buying
Boones
Farm
Apple
wine
or
a
little
Ripple
and
so
I
can
get
things.
It's
the
people.
It's
the
people,
not
just
the
all
people.
Irritate
the
snot
out
of
me.
Let's
just
take
one
that
all
irritates
all
of
us,
the
crosswalk
button.
All
right,
You
only
have
to
push
it
once.
Once
you
push
it,
the
circuit
is
set.
It
doesn't
matter
how
much
you
push
it,
that
walk
sign
is
not
coming
any
quicker.
And
yet
you
people
just
to
mess
with
my
day,
stand
on
the
corner
and
continually
do
this
over
and
over
and
over
again.
Now
on
a
good
day,
when
I've
talked
to
my
sponsor,
meditated,
work
the
steps,
and
then
spiritually
fit,
I
can
drive
by
you
and
go.
Have
a
nice
day,
brother.
On
a
day
when
I'm
not
working
a
particularly
good
program,
I
want
to
get
out
of
my
car
and
bitch
slap
you.
You
understand
what
I'm
saying?
Getting
on
airplanes
I
I'm
so
glad
that
you
no
longer
content.
Take
Aunt
Martha
into
the
airport
with
you.
Just
us
people
trying
to
get
on
the
plane
because
that's
bad
enough.
But
here's
what
happens
on
a
plane.
A
guy
gets
on
an
airplane,
his
seat,
his
ticket
says
37A,
so
he
stops
at
the
1st
row.
OK,
I'm
going
to
give
you
that
one.
Maybe
the
plane
starts
with
37A.
All
right,
I'm
giving
you
that
one
because
I'm
a
humanitarian,
but
it
says
one.
Oh,
what
a
surprise.
So
that
would
think
to
say
move
on,
right?
No,
no,
you
go
to
the
next
row
thinking
it
goes
137A.
Here's
Alcoholics
and
parking.
I'm
I'm
in
my
Home
group
right
now.
We
have
my
home
groups.
It
wasn't
a
little
church.
We
moved
it
little
church.
They
have
some
rules
for
us.
These
people
do
not
need
an
Al
Anon
meeting.
These
are
not
control
issues.
They
just
have
a
few
rules
they'd
like
us
to
obey
if
we're
going
to
have
our
meeting
in
their
home
and
they
didn't
ask
for
our
vote.
One
of
those
rules
is
no
pets
in
the
meeting.
I
don't
know.
I
don't
mind.
I
don't
mind
you
bring
your
dog
to
the
meeting.
I
don't
care.
Oh
yeah,
Texas.
We
always
take
our
dogs
to
the
meeting.
Hell,
my
dog
sponsors
me.
Boy,
my
dogs
work
the
steps
37
times.
And
if
of
course
you
don't
meet
her
at
the
conference,
then
oh,
never
mind.
So
anyway,
is
it
true
that
when
you
move
from
Texas
to
Oklahoma
the
IQ
and
both
states
go
up?
I
don't
know.
But
anyway,
newcomers,
that's
called
there
was
too
much
love.
So
I
got
to
push
him
back
and
see
if
I
can
get
him
back.
See,
they
liked
me
too
much.
I
got
to
mess
with
it
now.
So
anyway,
I,
I,
you
know,
sometimes
you
sort
of
have
to
be
that
I'm
not
one
of
those
people
that
will
give
you
my
opinion.
I
really
don't
like
to
give
my
opinions
to
newcomers
too
much
because
they
could
hit
you,
you
know?
I
really
admire
old
timers
of
getting
that
newcomers
faces
because
they
forget
they're
detoxing.
You
know
when
you
detox
you
just
a
little
irritable.
All
my
guys
go,
I'm
having
feelings.
I
haven't
feelings.
I'm
going,
no,
you're
not
having
feelings.
It's
just
detoxing.
Oh
thank
God,
feelings
happen
in
the
second
year
so
sometimes
for
male
Alcoholics
they
never
happen.
Way
too
many
women
laughed
on
that.
OK,
Just
remember,
the
only
thing
in
common
with
the
people
you
date
is
that
you
pick
them.
Out
of
all
the
people
you
could
have
picked,
you
picked
them.
Believe
me,
I
wish
I'd
known
that,
that
having
felony
convictions
would
have
made
you
more
datable
in
a
A
I
wish
I'd
known
that
I'd
have
got
busted
some
more.
You
know,
just
didn't
know.
Who
knew
who
knew
who
knew
that's,
you
know,
I
got
this
one
friend
that
you
like,
almost
shot
his
wife,
you
know,
And
when
you
hear
him
talk,
the
women
have
two
reactions.
Some
of
them
are
going
like
this
and
some
of
them
are
going
why
doesn't
Joe
love
me
that
much?
Show
never
wanted
to
shoot
me.
I
need
a
man
who's
loved
me
enough
to
kill
me.
So
I
I
relationships,
singles
and
surprise,
you
know
what?
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
want
to
make
this
conference
any
bigger,
but
last
night
when
I
was
listening
to
Jennifer,
and
if
you
didn't
hear
last
night,
you
got
to
get
Jennifer's
tape.
It
was
just
a
marvelous,
marvelous
call.
Just
just
terrific.
And
so,
so
much
about
what
it's
like
and,
and,
and,
and
it
was
so
humorous.
And
yet
underneath
it,
there's
all
that
pain.
And
Norma
said
that
Alcoholics
Anonymous
place
where
we,
we,
we
laugh
at
our
misery
and
we
cried
our
joy.
And
it
was
such
a
talk
like
that.
But
I
was
sitting
over
there.
So
we're
down
and
I'm
looking
up.
And
so
the
only
thing
I
could
see
is
I
couldn't
see
on
the
sign.
All
I
could
see
was
this.
I
I
thought
that's
a
great
name
for
a
conference.
Sin
and
sobriety.
Boy,
you'll
pack
this
place
out.
You'd
have
to
get
a
bigger
space.
You
can
get
Texas
Stadium
filling
up
with
that.
Have
a
hell
of
a
lot
of
newcomers
with
that
one.
Sin
and
sobriety.
Yeah,
that's
a
workshop
I
want
to
go
to.
So
I'm
sitting
in
my
sitting
in
my
Home
group.
And
and
Adam
Alabama
was
my
spiritual
grandmother
said,
you
know,
sometimes
you
got
to
suit
up
and
be
the
mommy
and
their
daddy.
And
this
guys
walking
up
the
street
with
a
little
dog
and,
you
know,
the
church
says
you
can't
dogs.
So
I'm
hoping,
I
don't
know
this
guy.
So
I'm
hoping
to
keep
moving
on.
But
now
he's
coming
up
the
door
and
I'm
in
the
door
and
I'm
looking
around
to
see
if,
you
know,
somebody
who's
not
working
a
great
program
will
get
into
his
face
for
me.
And
they're
not
there.
So
I
stand,
I
take
those
deep
breaths.
Could
you
know
when
you
give
out
the
holics,
bad
news,
they
never
take
it
Well,
I
don't
care.
You
can
find
the
biggest
guru
in
your
meeting
and
just
let
him
talk
a
little
bit.
Turn
around,
Go.
Shh.
You
watch
him,
you
watch
him.
That
shush
is
for
other
people.
I'm
the
guru.
I'm
saying
things
that
are
important.
So
I
go,
hey,
good
morning,
good
morning.
How
are
you
doing
that?
Could
you
see
you?
Good
to
see
you.
Good
to
see
you.
Welcome
to
the
group.
You
know,
what
do
we
have
with
the
church?
Bad
church,
mean
church,
Nasty
church.
Not
me,
not
me.
The
church.
Church
not
I.
The
church
says
you
can't
bring
the
dog
into
the
meeting.
And
he
said
the
classic
alcoholic
thing.
It's
just
a
little
dog.
Well,
you
see,
the
church
didn't
say
size
of
dog.
I
know
they're
jerks,
but
they
didn't.
But
that's
like,
you
know,
it's,
that's
just
it.
I,
I
really
have
believed
that
the
rules
apply
to
me
and
and
it's
OK
to
break
them
as
long
as
I'm
willing
to
pay
the
consequence.
I,
I
was
in
traffic
school
there.
I
got
first
ticket
in
a
long
time.
I
started,
I
was
the
only
one
and
as
far
as
I
know
other
Alcoholics
in
there
and
it
was
amazing.
All
these
non
Alcoholics.
Well,
I
was
doing
90,
but
so
is
everybody
else.
And
and
I
wasn't
the
onn
and
I
just
said,
you
know,
I
speed
and
I
spent
a
lot
and
it
was
my
turn
on
the
barrel
that's
here.
You
know,
I
just
didn't
get
resentful
because
I
actually
was
going
that
fast.
And,
you
know,
you
pay
the
ticket,
you
go
to
school
and
you
take
care
of
it.
And
that's
just
a
great
freedom.
They're
not
doing
it
to
me
anymore,
see,
because
I
have
the
type
of
personality
that
will
take
an
impersonal
world
personally.
People
I
don't
even
know
get
up
in
the
morning,
they
go.
Now,
what
should
I
do
today?
Let's
see,
go
to
the
gym,
go
to
work.
And
I
don't
know
Steve
Border,
but
I'm
going
to
cut
him
off
on
the
freeway
just
to
mess
with
him
and
newcomers,
I'm
just
going
to
tell
you
this
is
deep.
I'm
going
to
give
you
the
deep
spiritual
stuff
tonight
too.
I
like
this
this
Baptist
AA
in
here
too
because
everybody's
already
talking
back
to
the
podium.
Amen
Bridge.
Hi.
Okay,
so,
so
I'll
get
slain
in
the
Spirit
tonight
for
the
first
time.
Walking
on
water
and
talking
in
tongues.
That's
just
called
being
drunk.
You
know
we
did.
We
talked
in
tongues
a
lot.
Alcoholics
and
not.
So
if
you're
new,
this
is
like
a
weird
place.
It's
a
strange
place.
It's
full
of
contradictions.
We
call
it
paradox
just
to
make
it
sound
spiritual,
but
it's
really
contradictions.
I
was
thinking
about
a
couple
of
them.
Here's
a
couple
of
contradictions.
One
thing
you'll
hear
is
somebody
say,
let
us
love
you
until
you
can
love
yourself.
And
then
in
the
same
meeting,
you're
going
to
hear
what
we
think
about
you
is
none
of
your
business.
You'd
ask
1
old
timer,
what
do
I
do
with
problems?
And
they
go
hang
on.
Then
you
ask
another
one
to
go
let
go
and,
and
here's
my
favorite,
don't
make
any
decisions
in
the
first
year.
Give
a
sponsor.
Weird
place,
very
strange.
That's
because
the
inmates
run
the
asylum
here.
Just
think
about
it,
if
I
went
back
to
this
mythical
12
step
program,
you
know
about
hitting
your
head
and
myself
with
head
and
the
hammer.
Just
say
how
long
you
been
here?
35
years.
I've
had
to
come
here
35
years
to
keep
myself
from
hitting
myself
in
the
head
with
a
hammer.
One
day
at
a
time.
You're
a
loser.
What
a
loser.
Here
35
years,
right?
And
yet,
if
you're
here
35
years,
we'll
bow
down.
We'll
think
you're
something
special
because
you
haven't
poisoned
yourself
in
35
years.
We
are
easy
to
impress
here.
It
doesn't
take
much
to
impress
us
and
look
at
his
here's
deep
spiritual
truth.
Deep
spiritual
truth.
I
didn't
make
this
up.
Alan
McGinnis
who
died
01020
years
before
I
got
sober.
Wonderful
speaker
got
a
book
called
the
rest
of
your
life
that's
out.
Just
wonderful.
I
think
on
a
par
with
a
tough
Chuck
C
set.
Here's
deep
spiritual
truth.
This
is
the
kind
of
stuff
I
had
to
come
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
to
learn.
I
cannot
learn
this
without
a
sponsor,
a
Home
group
that
steps
in
divine
intervention.
Here
it
is.
You
ready?
Deep
breath.
This
is
deep.
Let
the
tailgater
pass.
That
amazed
me
the
first
time
I
heard
it.
I
know
it
amazes
you.
Let
the
tailgater
pass.
I
had
never
thought
about
that
without
a
sponsor.
Without
a
sponsor,
there's
only
one
of
two
things
to
do
to
a
tailgater.
You
slow
down
South,
their
head
gets
big
and
their
eyes
explode.
Or
you
let
them
pass
you
and
then
you
tailgate
them.
But
to
get
out
of
their
way
and
let
them
go
on,
get
out
of
your
life
too
long
down
the
road
never
would
have
occurred
to
me.
Honey,
this
guy,
our
Home
group
that
says
they
can't
cut
you
off
if
you
let
them
in
now
you
say
that
kind
of
stuff
in
your
Home
group
when
you
go
back,
it's
God.
He's
God.
Oh,
my
God,
yes.
Sponsor
me.
Marry
me.
You're
a
spiritual
giant
because
you're
used
to
dating
people
who
slept
with
your
sister,
spent
all
the
money,
killed
the
Chihuahua,
and
then
left.
Now,
newcomers,
our
job
with
old
timers
is
to
mess
with
you.
That's
really
all
we
have
to
do.
We
can't
do
anything
for
you.
As
somebody
said,
and
I
think
they're
right,
our
job
is
to
mess
with
you
till
you
get
it
because
we
can't
give
it
to
you.
You
have
to
get
it.
That's
usually
between
you
and
God.
We're
just
the
instrument
of
that.
God
knows
I,
the
guy
that
died
in
my
Home
group
a
couple
years
ago,
I
mean,
had
all
the
big
time
sponsors
in
Southern
California
hung
up,
just
died.
And
I'll
probably
talk
about
that
a
little
bit.
But
we
get
we
get
to
mess
with
you.
I
mess
with
newcomers
all
the
time.
I
love
to
mess
with
newcomers.
I
like
to
lie
to
them.
I
will
lie
to
newcomers
if
I
think
it'll
keep
them
sober.
Don't
sure
you'll
get
married.
Oh
yes,
I'm
sure
there's
a
girl
out
there
for
you,
Iago.
I'm
sure
there
is.
The
hump
on
your
back
won't
make
any
difference.
I'm
sure
she'll
be
able
to
look
right
past
that.
And
there
actually
are
several
groups
in
California
that
actually
that's
an
asset
to
have.
But
I'm
not
kidding.
I'm
not
kidding.
No,
but
I'll
go
up
to
newcomer
and
know
what?
I'll
go
up
to
Newcomer.
About
how
long
you
got?
About
35
days.
Great,
great.
45
days.
We
send
you
a
gift
now.
I
think
in
Texas
you
changed
that.
45
days
we
send
you
to
the
gift,
but
that's
all
different
thing.
It's
the
it's
the
gift.
Like
The
Sopranos
here
or
what
is
the
gift?
I'm
in
the
gift,
man.
Yeah,
JoJo
didn't
work
the
steps.
He
sleeps
with
the
fishes.
The
gift,
everybody,
here's
the
gift.
The
gift,
okay,
and
a
movie
about
Satan.
I
don't
know
anyway,
so
they,
you
know,
they
get
like
55
days.
They
come
up
to
me
and
they
go,
hey,
where's
my
gift?
I
go,
how
much
time
you
got?
55
days.
I
saw
oh,
we
move
that
up.
It's
89
days
now
and
I'll
play
this
game
for
about
6
months
and
finally
I
know
what
the
gift
is.
I
know
what
the
gift
is,
Steve.
It's
sobriety,
isn't
it?
That's
right,
that's
the
gift.
Guys
will
call
me
4:00
in
the
morning.
Now
she
broke
their
heart
at
9:00
PM.
They
can't
call
at
9:00
PM
No,
no,
at
9:00
PM.
All
they
need
is
God
them
in
the
big
book.
They'll
be
fine
At
4:00
PM
when
there's
a
little
mass
of
sobriety,
they
call
me.
She
gave
me.
I
go
well
repaid
your
22.
I
don't
know
what's
on
22.
I
read
22
in
years,
have
no
idea
what
it
done
to
my
head.
I
couldn't
tell
you
what
was
on
2210
minutes
later.
Thanks
Steve.
22
saved
my
life.
I've
got
you're
brilliant.
So
I
got
to
read
22,
figure
out
what
I
said
so
I
can
continue
to
look
good.
Now,
newcomers,
what
they
won't
tell
you
is
you're
allowed
to
mess
with
us.
You
can
mess
with
old
timers.
It's
loud.
They
won't
tell
you
this,
but
it's
loud.
And
you
have
to
understand
that
you
have
just
joined
the
most
rigid
organization
on
the
face
of
the
earth,
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
We
don't
like
to
think
that.
We
like
to
think
we're
sort
of
both
Hemian
and
laid
back.
That's
when
we're
drinking.
You
get
sober,
you
get
a
little
rigid
and
opinionated
about
everything.
Now,
see,
this
is
what
I
was
in
a
meeting
called
Ilakanyada
in
California.
And
I
love
this
meeting
because
they're
a
little
older.
It's
a
meaning,
right?
And
still
going.
They'll
call
me
kid.
I
like
that
because
see,
the
problem
was
staying
sober
23
years
is
you
get
23
years
older,
which
never
occurred
to
me.
I
mean,
I
never
wanted
to
be
the
ward
cleaver
of
my
group.
That
was
not
a
goal.
Yeah,
yeah.
I'm
looking
at
the
girl.
I'm
going
to
ask
out
and
she's
going.
You're
so
much
like
my
dad.
So
it
just
because
in
my
head
I'm
not,
you
know,
I'm
still
15
in
my
head,
you
know,
you
start
out
sponsoring
guys,
you're
the
Big
Brother
and
then
you
could
be
like
the
father.
It's
weird.
So
they
still,
they're
older
up
there.
They
call
me
kid
and
I
go
up
there
and
there's,
you
know,
they
give
us
chips.
Now
I
don't
know
if
it's
like
this
in
Texas,
but
in
California
you
do
not
take
a
chip
one
second
before
it's
time
to
take
a
chip,
right.
So
this
woman's
down
there
and
they
said
anybody
want
take
a
30
day
ship?
And
I
just
think
she
was
trying
to
be
nice.
She
was
just
about
45.
She
wasn't,
She
just
said
I
have
28
days,
could
I
take
a
30
day
trip?
Oh
my
God,
you
would
have
thought
she
farted.
Oh
my
God,
Oh
no,
you
can't
take
a
chip
a
second
early.
There
be
boils
and
flags
and
grasshoppers
will
all
die.
This
from
a
group
of
people
that
only
a
couple
of
years
ago
left
their
house
on
Halloween
to
get
a
pack
of
cigarettes
and
woke
up
January
12th
still
in
costume.
You
know
the
little
number
where
you
got
the
nut
on
the
front
and
the
hooker
on
the
back?
That
one,
yeah,
I
love
it,
you
know,
Oh,
my
God.
You
know,
we
weren't
always
on
diamond.
You
can't
take
a
chip
one
second
early.
Whoa,
go.
This
guy
is
to
this
guy
was
telling
me
a
story,
this
true
story,
this
this
clubhouse
was
trying
to
run
the
clubhouse
by
the
traditions.
And
you
guys
know
the
clubhouses
aren't
really
a
a
they're
separate
entities,
but
they
were
trying
to
run
the
clubhouse
by
the
traditions.
And
so
they
were
trying
to
figure
out
whether
it
would
break
the
traditions
to
put
a
soda
machine
in
the
clubhouse.
Now,
any
of
you
who've
ever
been
on
a
committee
know
how
longs
this
is
going
to
take
to
decide
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous.
Congress
and
the
Senate
could
pass
it
first.
Somebody
could
sue
and
the
Supreme
Court
would
rule
on
it
before
we're
going
to
pass
it.
So
they
argue
about
this
contrafrocut,
and
finally
they
take
the
vote.
And
they
vote
that,
you
know,
maybe
it
would
be
OK
to
put
this
soda
machine
in
the
clubhouse.
And
then
this
guy
who's
my
kind
of
alcoholic,
you
know,
just
a
Pebble
in
the
boot
of
AA,
raises
his
hand
and
says,
Mr.
Chairman,
there's
an
issue
we
have
not
addressed.
And
he
goes,
what?
He
goes,
I
like
Pepsi,
said
the
chairman
almost
killed
him
because
he
knew
what
it
meant.
You
know,
17
more
hours
of
arguing.
Pepsi,
Coke,
Akron,
NY,
Bob,
Bill
Clarence.
Oh,
my
God.
So
newcomers,
this
is
what
you
do
next
time
your
home
groups
gonna
have
its
yearly
picnic.
You
go
to
the
meeting
and
as
they're
talking
about
things,
you
raise
your
hand
and
said,
Mr.
Chairman,
I
think
this
year
we
need
to
move
the
picnic
tables
over
there.
The
oldest
of
the
old
timers
will
raise
himself
up
on
his
Walker
to
his
four
foot
two
heights.
Say
we
don't
move
the
tables
at
their
Home
group
here.
Bill
Wilson
had
potato
salad
right
there.
Doctor
Bob.
Brooklyn,
right.
We
all
move
the
table.
Tap
tables
were
there
when
I
got
sober.
Good
enough
for
you,
see,
because
in
23
years,
I'm
not
an
old
timer.
I'm
just
in
the
old
timer
training
program
place
where
you
teach
you
to
say
things
like
didn't
have
12
steps.
When
I
got
sober
I
had
37,
didn't
have
chairs.
We
set
our
rocks,
didn't
have
coffee.
We
drank
fungus.
It
was
a
different
program.
And
I
just
want
to
say
this,
if
you're
new,
welcome
to
Alcoholics.
Now.
This
is
the
greatest
time
in
the
world
to
be
sober.
The
golden
age
of
AA
has
not
passed
because
if
it
has,
we're
all
screwed.
I
certainly
hope
that
the
best
time
of
my
sobriety
isn't
passed
in
798396
'cause
I
got
I,
you
know,
I
hope
we
got
another
23
years
of
this
thing
to
do.
I
hope
the
really
good
times
are
in
front.
And
unfortunately,
if
you
listen
to
people
like
me,
sometimes
you
think
you
got
the
AAA
by
the
time
it
was
a
loser.
And
I
don't
know
about
you,
but
I'm
tired
of
getting
places
that
were
better
before
I
got
there.
You
know,
apparently
this
country
was
greater
before
I
was
born.
And
if
you're
not
careful,
you'll
think
a
A
was
better
before
you
got.
And
here's
the
old
timers.
Here's
how
you
do
it
to
him.
This
conference
is
going
to
happen.
You've
been
the
19,
you've
been
the
16,
you've
been
to
15.
And
somebody
who's
just
come
to
their
first
one,
you're
going
to
get
back
off
the
Hilltop.
You
sit
out
on
the
meeting
that
newcomers
going
to
go.
Wasn't
that
conference
great?
And
you're
going
to
go,
yes,
pretty
good.
But
back
in
96,
96,
we
have
The
Rolling
Stones,
The
Beatles
and
Liberace.
Chuck
C
walked
right
on
water
that
year,
Walked
right
out
here
in
the
lake.
Whole
damn
thing
Alabama
skinny
dip.
It
was
the
best
time.
See,
but
this
is
their
good
old
days.
I
said
old
timer.
The
only
thing
I've
got
to
say
is,
yeah,
it
was
a
great
conference.
It's
terrific.
So
glad
you're
here.
What
was
good
about
it?
You
know,
because
it's
their
first
and
I
don't
want
to
take
it
away
from
them.
This
is
the,
you
know,
it's
amazing
because
when
I
got
into
Alcoholics
Anonymous,
it
was,
what,
45
years
old?
What
an
amazing
thing.
To
join
an
organization
is
only
45.
This
thing's
only
going
to
be
70.
It's
a
baby
and
it's
the
best
times
happened
in
50
or
60
or
80.
We
shame
the
newcomers,
like
somehow
we're
giving
him
something
secondhand.
And
I've
been
around
for
23
years.
I
didn't
get
sober
in
Southern
California.
I
got
sober
in
Colombia,
South
Carolina.
Yeah,
you
know,
I
believe
me.
There
was
no
problem
with
the
13
step
there
because
all
the
women
were
older
than
me
and
married
first.
A
a
dance
I
went
to
was
like
jungle.
Gardenia
was
the
primary
scent.
They
played
Glenn
Miller.
You
know,
I
go
to
dances
today
in
LA
and
there's
girls
30
days
off
Similac.
I
mean,
that's
a
little
difference.
My
sponsor
says
I
can
cross
the
street
next
week
if
I
say
sober.
You
know,
LA
is
a
weird
place
for
meetings,
but
we're
talking
young
so
I
mean
it's
justice.
But
I
walked
in
there
and
they
were
all
retired
Sergeant
majors
because
there's
a
little
place
there
called
Fort
Jackson.
Some
of
you
may
have
done
some
basic
training
there.
So
that
means
all
the
old
timers
are
retired
Sergeant
majors
with
7th
grade
educations.
Weren't
people
this
college
educated
hippie
had
much
in
common
with,
but
they
saved
my
life
and
they
saved
my
life
because
that
was
the
meeting
to
go
to.
There
weren't
a
lot
of
me.
You
know,
the
great
thing
in
LA
is
I
can
go
to
a
meeting
with
people
just
like
me.
You
know,
my
meeting
sort
of
suburban,
a
lot
of
Volvos,
a
lot
of
baby
seats,
a
lot
of
people
work
in
the
studios,
a
lot
of
mommies,
a
lot
of
daddies,
a
lot
of
houses.
That
kind
of
that's
kind
of
me.
I
mean,
there's
a
lot
of
people
just
sort
of
middle
class
meeting.
Well,
artsy
little,
little
to
the
left.
But
you
know,
and
then
I
know
people
you
you
can
find
any
meaning
you
want.
You
want
to
ride
with
bikers.
They're
there.
And
so,
so
the
thing
about
LA
is
I
can
go
to
people
just
like
me.
And,
you
know,
Maurice
Dinner,
who
was
here
in
86
used
to
say
that
she
wasn't
so
happy
about
that
change
in,
in,
in
a,
because
the
place
she
went
to,
everybody
was
there
and
that
she'd
been
raped
by
bikers
And
she
had
to
come
to
alum
to
learn
them,
love
them
in
the
meeting.
And
the
rednecks
that
had
hurt
her,
she
had
to
come
to
love
them
in
the
meeting.
And
the
going
with,
to,
to
meetings
with
people
who
aren't
like
you
was
the
thing.
So
I
don't
know.
I,
I
do
not
believe
that
at
its
base,
what
was
given
to
me
in
form
is
any
different
today
in
2002
than
it
was
in
1979
when
those
people
handed
it
to
me.
Although
the
meetings
in
California
are
very
different
than
the
meetings
I
went
to
in
South
Carolina
and
probably
very
different.
And
that's
the
problem
with
moving.
You
know,
when
I
move,
I
have
to
adjust
to
you.
I
mean,
you
know,
but
we
didn't
talk
about
feelings
in
1979
in
Columbia
South.
Those
guys
had
never
had
any.
Why
should
you?
They
went
through
WW2
without
a
feeling
and
drugs.
You
know,
I
always
joke
when
I
got
sober.
Drugs
were
not
a
controversy
when
I
got
sober.
The
old
timers
in
South
Carolina
did
not
think
you
weren't
sober
if
you
were
on
drugs.
They
thought
you
were
a
communist.
Who'd
you
vote
for?
Just
a
whole
different
thing.
And
then
I
move
out
to
and,
and
white,
white,
white,
white,
white.
I
mean,
again,
it
looks
like
Wonder
Bread
for
the
most
part.
You
know,
I've
been
back
there
and,
and
it's
it's
much
more
diversified
today,
which
I
love
to
see.
But
but
you
know,
I
move
out
to
California
and
I
go
to
a
midnight
meeting
and
I'm
there
with
transsexuals
and
gang
members
from
Thailand
and,
and,
and,
you
know,
girls
off
the
street.
I'm
going.
We
are
not
in
Kansas
anymore,
Toto.
Oh,
this
is
wild,
you
know?
And
they're
younger
and
weird
and
tattooed
in
places
I
don't
even
touch
on
my
own
body.
I
mean,
it
was
real
culture
shock
and,
and
I've
grown
to
love
that
about
Alcoholics
Anonymous
that
a
couple
years
ago
I,
when
I
was
married,
I
married
a
woman
who
was
having
an
affair
when
I
got
married.
I
you
people
laugh
at
odd
things.
So
glad
that
makes
you
happy.
The
newcomers,
if
you,
if
you
ever
aspire
to
this
job
of
speaking,
you
have
to
deal
with
that.
They're
weird,
these
people.
They
laugh
at
the
strangest
things.
You
go,
they'll
come
before
you
talk.
They'll
go
Tell
that
story.
Remember.
Remember
when
they
elected
you
prettiest
on
the
cell
Bach
and
stabbed
you
and
you
were
in
all
that
pain?
Tell
that
story.
I
love
that
story.
OK
so
and
I
thought
that
was
weird
for
her
to
have
an
affair.
When
we
got
married,
she
didn't
understand
the
rules
of
cheating.
You
don't
cheat
at
the
wedding.
You
marry
them
thinking
they're
the
love
of
your
life.
They
turn
into
a
bastard,
then
you
cheat
on
them.
That's
the
way
it
goes.
But
I
gotta
tell
you,
I've
been
depressed,
I've
been
hurt,
I
was
traumatized.
I,
I
say
that
one
of
the
things
that
will
happen
in
sobriety
is
you're
going
to
have
the
bomb
go
off
maybe
many
times
if
you
are
here
getting
sober,
thinking
that
getting
sober
will
now
make
it
all
OK
because
we
tell
you
it
gets
better.
Let
me
explain
what
I
mean
When
I
tell
you
it
gets
better
because
you
have
to
be
careful
with
a
person
like
with
me.
When
you
tell
them
it's
going
to
get
better
because
you
say
it's
going
to
get
better
and
my
head
hears
I'm
going
to
get
everything
I
ever
wanted
if
I
stay
sober,
that
will
be
the
reward.
The
problem
with
that
is
when
it
doesn't
happen,
why
should
I
stay
sober?
Alan
McGinnis
said
that
if
you
stay
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
long
enough,
you're
going
to
get
everything
you
ever
came
to
get
here
or
you're
going
to
find
out
that
you're
never
going
to
get
what
you
came
to
get
here.
And
then
why
are
you
going
to
stay
sober?
See,
and,
and
in
23
years,
there's
been
a
lot
of
letting
go
of
things
I
thought
I
would
get
if
I
stayed
sober,
been
a
lot
of
gifts,
a
lot
of
loss.
That's
what
life's
about.
So
you
tell
me
I'm
it
gets
better
and
that's
what
my
head
hears.
It's
not
what
you're
saying,
it's
what
my
head
hears.
And,
and
this
is,
this
is
what
I
mean
when
I
say
it
gets
better.
Her
name
was
Michelle.
Michelle
has
been
no
God.
You
know
the
dance
is
going
to
be
in
a
little
while.
Just
keep
those
hormones
under
check.
We
all
know
nobody's
going
home
with
anybody
anyway.
It's
Friday
night.
You
don't
go
home
with
them
tonight.
If
you
do,
you're
stuck
with
them
for
the
whole
weekend.
Nobody's
going
to
anybodies
room
to
the
Last
Dance
tomorrow
night.
Just
mellow
out
tonight.
It's
a
little
shopping,
That's
all
we're
doing.
Nobody
want
to
wake
up
with
Mr.
or
Mrs.
Wrong
for
Saturday
and
Sunday,
and
then
they're
stalking
you
on
water
skis.
When
he
said
he
had
a
big
boat,
that's
exactly
what
he
meant.
I
don't
know.
You
know,
it's
just
the
silent
news
runs
across
here.
I'm
sorry,
just
goes
there
and
it
comes
out.
Where
was
I,
Huh.
Michelle,
Thank
you.
Yeah,
it
was
actually
going
to
get.
I
was
actually
going
to
get
a
little
serious.
Michelle
has
been
dead
18
years.
Michelle
was
a
dancer
and
when
she
danced
she
hurt
her
back
and
she
got
a
year
sober
and
they
decided
they
were
going
to
operate
on
her
back
and
they
made
a
mistake
and
they
paralyzed
her.
She's
paralyzed
for
a
year
and
then
she
walked
again
and
they
did
another
operation
and
she
was
paralyzed
for
it
another
six
months.
And
then
in
her
third
year
sobriety,
she
got
lung
cancer
and
she
died.
That
was
it,
folks.
That
was
her
whole
sobriety.
Now,
when
she
was
in
and
when
I
was
there,
when
she
died,
she
did
not.
And
those
of
you
have
been
a
caretaker,
know
that
it's
not
a
Hollywood
ending.
It's
ugly.
It's
scary,
not
necessarily
peaceful.
She
was
scared
to
death
of
dying.
She
panicked
many
times.
She
did
not
see
death
coming
as
a
friend
or
looking
at
going
home.
She
didn't
want
to
go.
She
was
not
a
happy
camper.
And
yet
every
night
she
would
get
in
the
wheelchair
and
while
Cedar
Sinus
Sinai
still
had
a
chemical
dependency
unit,
would
go
down
to
that
chemical
dependency
unit
and
tell
those
people
that
getting
sober
was
worth
it.
That's
what
I
mean
when
they
say
it's
getting.
It
gets
better
because
I
believe
it's
better
to
that
way
then
not
live
that
way.
Although
it
changes
nothing.
Didn't
change
that
she
died,
didn't
change
anything.
Except
for
when
I
go
over
to
Cedar
Sinai,
I
almost
always
tell
that
story.
And
a
couple
of
times
there's
been
somebody
in
the
group
that
was
in
that
CD
ward
when
Michelle
was
there
and
she
is
remembered.
So
that's
what
I
mean
when
I
say
it
gets
better.
Because
I
I'm
selfish
and
self-centered.
I'm
still
selfish
and
self-centered.
I'm
still
a
liar,
a
cheat
and
a
thief.
I
am
not
the
well
speaker
and
I
really,
and
I'm
the
only
male
speaker
this
week
in
which
I
love.
I
think
that's
great.
You
know,
usually
it's
like
3
minute
one
way.
I
love
it
that
it's
all
women,
just
one
I
one
guy.
I
think
that's
terrific.
Whoever
put
that
line
up
together.
Jennifer
certainly
wasn't
the
well
speaker
last
night
and
I
think
she'll
take
that
as
a
compliment.
You
know,
Claire
is
the
Welsh
be
Claire
you
just
that
that's
that's
that's
a
story
that
will
awe
inspire
you
And
and
I
I
don't
know
about
Joanne.
I
met
her
at
dinner
and
I'm
doubtful,
but
I
I'm
doubtful.
I
think
it's
all
going
to
depend
on
how
the
bridge
goes
tomorrow.
If
she
loses,
it
may
give
a
whole
different
meaning
to
spiritual
speaker.
And
for
you
knew,
the
spiritual
meeting
on
Sunday
just
means
that
we
don't
cuss
as
much
as
we
normally
do.
I'm
not.
I'm
not
well,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
well.
If
I
get
well,
what
do
I
need
you
for?
I
get
well.
I'm
out
of
here
and
there's
a
part
of
me
that's
looking
to
get
well
enough
so
I
don't
need
you
anymore
because
it's
a
part
of
me
that
just
wants
to
go.
I've
done
enough.
Now
you
have
to
leave
me
alone.
Now
you
have
to
leave
me
alone.
A
second
later,
I'll
go.
Where
did
you
go?
Because
Alcoholics
is
a
guy
in,
the
professor
in,
Paradox
said.
Are
people
who
when
they're
out
one
in,
when
they're
in,
they
went
out.
See,
and
I'm
selfish
and
I'm
self-centered
and
I
have
a
little
story
about
that.
This
is
a
game
I
play.
You're
welcome
to
play
it.
And
beatings
that
bore
me.
Did
he
say
some
Alcoholics
Anonymous
meetings?
Boring
boys.
Not
grateful,
is
he?
Well,
you
know
what?
I've
been
going
to
23
meetings
for
23
years.
I've
heard
it
all.
You'll
heard
everything
you're
ever
going
to
hear
in
Alcoholics
Anonymous
the
1st
30
days
you're
here.
There
is
no
new
information.
Some
of
us
put
it
in
a
clever
package,
you
know,
and
we
mix
it
up
and
it's
interesting
in
our
stories,
but
there's
no
new
information.
This
is
really
simple.
This
is
not
brain
surgery.
This
is
Alcoholics
Anonymous
by
the
very
title
of
the
organization
Proves
we
are
not
Menza
students.
You're
not
going
to
go
where
you
going
tonight
and
Alcoholics
Anonymous
meeting
Would
you
be
the
CEO
of
my
company?
Probably
not
going
to
happen
for
normal
people.
So
this
is
a
game
I
play.
Just
shows
you
how
self-centered
I
am.
I'm
sitting
in
a
meeting
and
I'm
bored
with
it
because
I'm
bored,
not
because
the
meetings
boring.
Somebody
stand
sober,
including
me,
and
I
stand
boring
meetings
because
I
got
to
get
through
those
to
get
to
the
interesting
ones.
I
have
a
friend
of
mine
that
says
he
only
needs
to
hear
one
thing
in
a
meeting,
he
just
doesn't
know
when
it's
going
to
happen
so
he
never
leaves.
And
you
know,
I
feel
very
spiritually
fit
when
I
walk
out
of
a
boring
meeting.
And
I
stayed
spiritual
giants.
Damn.
I'm
good,
you
know?
And
so.
OK,
so
here's
just
an
example
of
how
after
23
years
self
selfish
and
self-centered,
I
still
am.
Aliens
bust
into
the
room
and
they're
going
to
kill
everybody
on
the
planet,
but
they're
going
to
keep
a
few
of
us
alive
in
like
a
human
zoo
as
an
example
of
the
indigenous
people
that
were
here.
And
they
picked
me
to
be
the
leader
because
I'm
so
special.
Now
that's
incredibly
self-centered.
Why
are
they
going
to
pick
me
out
of
all
of
you?
I'm
not
the
prettiest,
the
smartest,
the
tallest,
but
I'm
so
special.
They're
going
to
pick
me
and
they're
going
to
let
me
take
10
of
you
with
me.
Now
as
soon
as
I
say
I'm
going
to
let
me
take
10
of
you
with
me,
you
stop
thinking
about
what
I'm
saying
and
think,
would
it
be
me?
Let
me
just
tell
you
this,
All
the
men
die.
I
like
Wayne.
He's
dead,
man.
You
know,
I'm
taking
no
competition
to
the
island.
I'm
not
getting
voted
off,
all
right?
Don't
feel
bad.
We're
going
to
starve
to
death
in
about
two
minutes
because
I'm
not
picking
these
women
because
they
know
how
to
build
a
lean
to
or
make
fire.
So
I
may
be
doing
you
a
favor.
I
don't
know.
I
mean,
that's
just
incredibly
selfish
and
self-centered.
And
I
think
the
great
thing
about
Alcoholics
Anonymous
is
it
has
removed
that.
But
I'm
smart,
you
know?
Some
of
people
come
in
and
Alcoholics
Thomas,
and
they
don't
like
it.
How
did
I
end
up
here?
Well,
it's
all
that
drinking
you
were
doing
really.
Not
a
complex
question.
Drink
1/4
day,
you're
probably
going
to
end
up
here.
And
then
they
always
think,
what
do
you
people
want
from
me?
That
72
Hyundai
you're
driving?
That's
what
we
really
got.
We
really
got
our
eye
on
that
puppy,
man.
I'm
ripping
you
off
for
that.
Yeah,
72
Hyundai.
That's
what
I
want,
That
case
of
bad
breath.
Oh
yeah,
I
think
actually
we
will
buy
you
a
bra.
I
don't
know,
but
I
came
to
Alcoholics
Anonymous
and
I
loved
it.
I
loved
it
from
the
minute
I
came
in
here.
It
was
like
you,
The
principle
of
first
step
is
hopelessness.
I
have
to
be
hopeless
in
order
to
get
this
thing
and
the
spiritual
principle
for
me
of
the
second
step
is
hope
and
I
got
that
my
very
first
meeting,
my
first
meeting
was
May
1st.
My
sobriety
dates
May
25th.
There
was
three
weeks
in
there
where
I
was
basically
I
was
going
to
do
the
the
four
day
off,
three
day
on
program.