Clancy I. at Bristol Reunion February 21st 2002

Clancy I. at Bristol Reunion February 21st 2002

▶️ Play 🗣️ Clancy I. ⏱️ 1h 6m 📅 01 Jan 1970
My name is Clancy Ellis Lynn. I'm an alcoholic
and I'm very glad to be back in the
the heart of Bristol, glad to have a had another exciting time coming here. Not on the airplane, just Sally driving me from the airport.
But I it's very good to be here. See some old friends, meet some new friends. Kind of kind of cold here for people from California, but there's a young man here from Iceland. Where are you, kid?
He came here to thaw out.
I
enjoyed your talk, Adam,
and I hope you won't feel offended if I tell you something, but you're kind of new and I'm not. I'm very old.
People like you really shouldn't drink
if you can't handle it like a man for good. You know?
Every year on Friday night they asked me to talk about something that I never know is going to be which I'm talking about. The last year I talked about a little bit of the history in the traditions. Year before that I talked on singleness of purpose
and I guess I have to tell my story tomorrow night. So I got to think of something to talk about. I think there's something to talk about. It might help somebody new here. Tonight. I want to talk a little bit about a little puzzle with an, a, a, you know, it's a funny thing. Alcoholics Anonymous is certainly the most effective treatment for alcoholism in the history of mankind. And the 6000 recorded years of alcohol usage or something.
And in the United States, for example, where it's the most
his outlook, it's a hot pair today if there ever is one. And there's more sobriety in the United States than anywhere else in the world on a continuing basis.
And that's why it's kind of a puzzlement where you stop and think that it's estimated by one of our national societies dealing this professionally. That's still in America. About between 90 and 95% of Alcoholics die drunk. I'm sure the percentages as high or higher in Great Britain. I'm sure it's higher in other countries where Alcoholics Anonymous has not made an image. And you wonder why that should be because there's a there's an answer and it seems to work. It seems to have an effectiveness and
it's just so many people come to AAA do not stay. So many people don't know about A and don't come because they have preconceived ideas. Some people come to A don't last very long. You know when you look at the meetings where every week there are new people and 52 weeks a year, 10 years, you think you'd have enough to fill Wembley Stadium. But the meetings grow little by little, not exponentially at all.
And it's really an odd situation. And you look back and think, well, maybe we're not sincere. We were, as we're in the old days,
we're thinking about our we have a new book now, and we have the old book with the stories that are some of these stories have changed, sometimes with our approval and sometimes not. But some, you look at the old book, it's kind of an interesting thing. It's hard to realize this. A number of people whose stories of the old book died drunk,
Many of them got drunk again. Now why would that? Because these were good A members, good guys.
The is just
Why would these? Why do these things happen? Why do people drink?
And I think it gets back to something that has happened to all of us when we come here. They mentioned the topic of my talk to. I had a disease of perception, but certainly alcoholism is a disease of perception.
And
as Adam was saying tonight, we perceive life as a hopeless situation. We come to a hopefully over a period of time through taking steps
at depth. Hopefully our perception changes, but then unless something continues, our perception begins to diminish again. In the program I noticed Sally has put that thing about the invisible boat that does Kemper talk. I gave the International Convention in 1985 in Montreal
and you just left one little thing out of that. You know, the point I was trying to make, which is the point, is that
the point is the difference between good treatment centers and bad treatment centers are that bad treatment centers, when they release you, they leave you feeling that you're OK now and you don't have to do anything more. And the good treatment centers say we're leaving you off here, but look for those two guys, the invisible boat and roll like hell. And that's the purpose of a continuing effort.
And I,
I would say offhand, to the best of my knowledge, just as a little terrible, but I think the first three steps have kept more people out of a A than anything in history next to booze. And not because they're bad, because they're eventually with a change of perception, they become a trampoline that keeps you in A. And I'm going to just talk you a few minutes tonight about the steps. I know we all heard about the steps of the board or the steps, but I just want to talk about my perception.
The the first step that,
you know, people come here and have a terrible time because you have to start off by meeting, you're an alcoholic and therefore your life is unmanageable and you're a loser and a failure. Dude, it's really a terrible thing. And you have to go to turn your, your, you have to admit you're crazy and your God's going to make it better. And if if God doesn't like you, you got no chance,
then you're going to turn your life over to God. Try that some morning when you can't figure it here. God,
you sleep in the streets. That's what happens when you do that.
And it really took me a long time. I think, I think one of the great I slipped in and out of a A for almost 10 years. I went from being a high bottom drunk kind of to being a media bottom drunk. And the last day I drank, two big guys threw me out of a Skid Row mission in Los Angeles and said stay out of here, you damn bum. And I try to explain to him I'm not a bum. Three years ago, I was on the faculty of the University of Texas,
adds that I helped write the Elsie Delmaras for the boarding company we're running that very weekend. In Life and Time and The New Yorker setting post, I'd had my picture in the New York Times for one of my achievements.
How many people you have had their picture? The New York Times. But it's hard to explain these things in midair.
But I knew all about AI, knew almost a month as much about a A then as I do now.
Isn't that odd? But I knew what I could talk about, the steps. I've provided a lot of meetings over the years in and out. And after all, they didn't make any difference. And this time I was raining and cold and I walked a long way to an 80 club where I could get out of the rain for a while. And I was in strange city where I didn't know anybody. One guy and he got I got so much familiar with him anymore
and I fell into a terrible trap of this hideous club in there, a bunch of fanatics and all those just crazy. And I just lurked in there because it kept raining and I somehow stayed sober a couple of weeks
actually. I wanted to stay sober, but I had no place to go. It's still raining.
And then they started the same old pattern, you know, get a sponsor. You've been summer two weeks now. Get a sponsor. And I had no front teeth.
Let me tell you, if you're new tonight about sponsors. They all pretend to be so nice. Oh yes, we care. We love you. But they always want to stick their nose in your business. That's what they want to do.
And this guy, I used to see him come in and out of the club and he was an actor and he every time I saw him in the movie, he was playing some role where he's giving people money or taking care of him or helping him. That's my new sponsor.
I'll get some money from this idiot. I get some teeth, I get some clothes. My eyes are clear. I'll go back to New York, maybe get a job at an advertising agency again. I guess the money, I'll come back out here someday and I'll burn this club down.
So I have to be my sponsor and he I said we'll give you my sponsor, Bob,
try to get my newcomer looking to share. I want you to do what I say. Oh sure, Bob,
I've often said he should have won the Academy Award for every loving role he ever played in any movie because he was a right wing fascist AA pig. Just a terrible man. Do this, do that.
But over a period of time he he grabbed me down a little bit. I'll talk a little bit why maybe tomorrow night. But one of the things I did
about 3 months sober, I was, I'd have a couple of jobs. He, he wasn't very sympathetic. I mean, the first week I became so I think, you know, Bob, I'm an intelligent man and I'm a sensitive man. I'm living in an abandoned car in the a club parking lot. I'm cold and hungry. I'm an intelligent, sensitive man. Bob. I can't live like this. What can I do? He said get a job.
I said get a job for Christ sake, look how terrible I look. I should get a terrible job.
Yeah, I I followed that advice to the hilt for a long time. But anyway,
I had a couple jobs and I was a smart aleck newcomer. I know nothing worse today than a smart Alec newcomer. A God's a loser and failing and knows more than anybody. And that's no idea. I've often thought I've worked with a lot of people over the years. People send people me to me. I just makes me crazy sometimes.
Couple times
the doorbell rings at 2:00 in the morning over the past few years and I go to the door. There's some grass. They said you'd help me
and I said who? There's a car speeding away across the park.
Did you get a license number? Anything
but I don't know what I'd do if me and my early sobriety came in to talk to me. I would not put up with that kind of crap from that guy.
I'm glad I found somebody better than me and he
I'd had a job, but I was feeling I'd make a little progress over three months. I say I'd lost a job. I'd been living in somebody's sofa and they moved or I had to go leave. And I was back in that abandoned car briefly. And I got a chance because I was out of work to go back to the noon meetings in the club. I was like the noon meetings because all the philosophers are there. None, nobody with jobs or that real stuff. You just go to noon and philosophize. And
I had a good feel. I was trying to be honest that day. You know,
I really envy you people because I am not really an alcoholic. I've a lot of problems. I've grave emotional problems and I my drinking pattern is pretty bad, but I am not an alcoholic, so I can't take the first step. I envy you people who can take the first step because for years I've been going to a meetings on New York and Chicago and Los Angeles to get the heat off. And I heard people talk about the steps have done for them because they're Alcoholics. But my problem is not really alcohol,
and so I can't be an alcoholic. And I know these steps work for Alcoholics, but they don't work for people like me. I don't know what's I guess I don't do. I don't know which ones
try to be honest. One of the few times I've ever honest in a meeting and about 10 seconds after the meeting, some boom,
called it, my sponsor said. Here's what he said. No, Bob.
So the next two weeks, Bob and another guy named John Sullivan gave me a seminar on the first step, which I'll try to condense into two or three minutes. But it really was something. It went like something like this. Wow,
you're not an alcoholic. You said that and told me that before. Is that why you can't take the first step? I'm trying to be honest, Tell you the truth,
I I can't admit I'm an alcoholic. Really, I'm not, he says. Why are the first step does it say you're an alcoholic?
Well, it doesn't actually say so, Bob,
but we know what they mean. Don't care. So he says. Why don't you ever try reading the black parts on those pages?
Just want to say we admitted we were powerless over alcohol. Do you think you're powerless over alcohol? Not really.
He's what do you think powerless means? He said. Why do you hear these speakers? You know, they get drunk and they rape nuns and they go to prisons. They go to Hong Kong and go do crazy. I'm just a good guy. They've been screwed around a lot. Bob. He's, I don't think that's what it means at all, kid. It means some of this. It means that there's a small percentage of people in every generation who seem to get an unnatural reaction to alcohol.
What do you think of unnatural reaction to alcohol is kid? I guess they drink stay drunk all the time, right Until I let us in at all. Just the opposite,
alcohol does something special forum that it doesn't do for most people. It makes things better
after two or three or four drinks. It seems to change their perception of reality. Most people after two or three, four drinks get a little dizzy, want to go home. But these people now are suddenly living in a Technicolor world.
That's the unnatural reaction. Nothing bad will happen to you unless it's doing something for you. I'll tell you that.
I said yes, I, I guess that's happened to me, Bob, But but I drank two or three or four drinks. I didn't always go out and do crazy things. He says. It doesn't mean that you may drink two or three or four drinks and go and go to bed. You may two or three or four drinks go to Mexico.
You may fall in love with an 89 year old woman on a Walker. You know
something's going to happen, that's all,
he says. The trouble is for people like this, every time they drink, it's a game of Russian roulette and they don't even aren't aware of it. And when you're young, you sometimes get away with it.
You know what? After about 3:00 this morning, boys got loaded. I got home in time, take a shower, got to work.
All right click. I met this woman at bar last night. She turned me every way but this. I'll tell you, I was lucky to get out for clutch
quick. Oh, we went to that bar last night. What a terrible bar. That wasn't enough fighting. The guy got drunk. It was just terrible.
But as you get older, somebody puts more and more shells in that baby and they wind up like you, kid. Boom Jesus.
Boom Jesus,
boom Jesus. There's a click in here somewhere.
She's
all you gotta admit that you can't tell what's going to happen. You start to drink. Is that true? That is true, Bob. But you see, that isn't the point. That isn't why my life is screwed up. I drink because my life is painful. My life doesn't get painful because I drink, although it does that too. But I have deep problems that I can't take it. If I don't break, I get suicidal. My life is not caused by, probably not caused by drinking,
he said. Now you told me that you were an award-winning writer. That's right, Bob, I was.
He's wanted to read what that says.
We were admitted. We were powerless over alcohol. Dash. In the English language, dash means end of thought, beginning of new thought.
Now we have a new thought. You have to admit your life's unmanageable. You think your life's unmanageable?
Not really,
he says. You're living in an abandoned car for Christ's sake.
Is that some sort of a clue or something?
He said. But that isn't what it means. I'm just kidding. You're kidding, he said. I'll tell you what, not Malibu. The richest man in America, one of the three richest men in the world, perhaps sits an AE meetings three and four nights a week, every week. And he can afford to buy chains of treatment centers and he can buy doctors and psychologists and psychiatrists and every therapy in the world and existing meetings. And he says he's content. Why do you think that would be?
It beats me,
you know, tell you something. Everybody's,
everybody's born. Every human being, rational human beings born eventually go along. You have problems, you have upsets, you have conflicts, a lot of conflicts you have to work through and pain and problems, and then you'll workout and you have to go through them painfully. Now just think, some people can take a few drinks and bury those problems
and bury those conflicts. Sometimes they come back and sometimes they don't. Is it great?
And it's great you come. You come to depend upon alcohol as a conflict resolver for an unfriendly world. But eventually alcohol gets to be a problem. Do I have to stop drinking? Then you stop drinking and you realize that these things are surfacing now. Now all the old pains are back and all the things they should have done and didn't do, and all the things they did do and shouldn't have done, and all the problems and come back eventually get so bad you have to have a few drinks to get some relief.
But you can't keep drinking. So you got to get sober, but then you can't stay sober. Let's start drinking.
But then you can't keep drinking. Sugar starts up. He says that's the problem. Cute, He says. The only thing right you I've heard you say about this. You said your problem isn't alcohol. And you're absolutely right. If your problem were alcohol, you wouldn't have to be here.
He said the problem is something called alcoholism. I said, isn't that the same thing as alcohol? He said no it isn't, it's a lot different and alcohol problem is overcome by getting sober and cleaning up your act and straightening up
in this thing called alcoholism. However, you'll discover sooner or later, as you've already discovered, that getting sober and straightening up and cleaning up your act has no significant long-term effect on your life other than to gradually make it so painful you can't stand it,
he said. You know the kid. There's a name for people like you,
he said. You're an alcoholic
and I said we'll all be goddamned cause for 10 years I'd been drinking and I drinking myself and lost everything I had because I could not fit a a definition of what I thought Alcoholics. Where would people tell me in meetings and never once think what it means?
That had the probably the greatest single effect in my life I've ever had. That was in the winter of 195859,
and since I guess what I did, I learned a lot more about a sense that reading chapter 3 and so on, But I without being aware of it, I conceded to my innermost self that I was an alcoholic that day. So what? What difference does that make? Here's the difference. I never could have done that. I never would have done it, couldn't have. And since that day, I have never had a severe desire to drink.
Now I didn't. I'm not saying things got really wonderful
because in those days several times I desire to commit suicide, almost committed suicide once and ran away and quit jobs and lived in. But the reason I did not drink is because I knew if I drank
had one beer, I just knew this as an alcoholic. Sooner or later, if I got away with it, I'd drink more. Everybody thinks if I can get away. One of the sad things sometimes in age, seeing how somebody have an easy slip because they still think they can handle it.
But I,
it enabled me that ever have to desire, strong desire to drink. And that has been one of the great things in my life. I, I, I started to say, if I had one drink sooner or later, tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, I'll find myself standing out in the street corner getting one more time and there won't be anybody in the world who cares what happens to me. That's the sad part. It doesn't lose your family. You get new families, you get new homes, get new jobs,
But when you've lost the world around you and your perception is gone, it's deadly.
I've always thought the greatest wish somehow
I could have had to explain to me clearly when I was new in 1949 would save me a lot of problems. But maybe it wouldn't have. Unlit this candle tonight, I'll tell you that.
I don't,
but I think that's what the first step is. It's hard to understand that everybody thinks you've got to sit. Your problem is alcohol. Your problem is not alcohol.
Then you get to that second step, but it's just a little bit spooky because now we got to
got to return to a higher power and I had to tell my sponsor the bad news. You know, I was raised in the Norwegian Lutheran Church, Bob, and they don't screw around there. You make two or three mistakes and you're screwed. And I, I, I was gone at 12.
I, you know, I remember I told him I was here. I've broken all 10 commandments. Not intentionally said that, but I broke them all. There's not much chance of me returning to God once in a sober few years that I realized that God, I haven't broken all 10 commandments. I've never coveted my neighbor's manservant.
Of course, in Los Angeles we all say, yeah, you know, who knows? But
I told my sponsor, I said I can't return to God, Tell my second step. He says, why does it say you have to return to God? It says higher power doesn't say God. Oh, do that fool the people. Oh, that isn't God. That's a higher power. He says that it doesn't say return to anything. Nothing and a A ever says return to anything because we're coming out of sick perceptions and bad
concepts, he says. You got to try to come to believe something. That's what they ask you to do. You try to come to believe that a power greater than yourself.
Can't you believe in God said no, I can't Bob, because God exists, I am damned, I cannot believe it, he said. Can't you believe in? AAI said no. He doesn't seem to work for me,
he said. You think I'm doing better than you are?
Yeah, he says. Congratulations, I'm your new higher power
and I could accept that he couldn't send me to hell, although it came close. But
people in the club, you say there's that crazy guy thinks his sponsors God.
I knew he wasn't God.
I'll tell you one thing though. If you're kind of new and you're having trouble with God or a a, I would much rather see you believe in your sponsor that you believe in than to pretend to believe in a God you don't believe in. Because you can fool them at 8:00 at night, but you can't fool that dark at 2:00 in the morning. You better have something there that you believe in. But anyway, he said
how how could I come to believe that? And Robert pretend we, we work that out because you don't understand how it's going to happen. You don't have to see why it's going to happen. All I can do is try to
accept the concept here. There's some power will restore you to sanity. And I was always was a little nervous about that word sanity because Once Upon a time I was committed to the Texas State insane asylum as a schizophrenic with paranoid tendencies because that stayed sober so long and tried to kill myself, which is another story. But,
and I've always been a little sensitive when people call me crazy because I'm secretly crazy,
but it works out. That is what it means at all. I don't care how I work that out. I had to come to believe that a power greater than myself will restore me to sanity. Now the definition is what is sanity? Well, you read 10 books of mental health and you read 10 depredition, 10 different renditions of sanity. But oddly enough, the definitions of psychosis insanity are pretty stable.
And what psychosis is, that's mental illness not caused by brain damage. And this is highly oversimplified, of course, But when the brain, under sufficient conflict that it cannot cope with, sometimes in desperation to maintain its integrity, will alter perception of an outside object to make it look different, to resolve that conflict, Sometimes it's just a little thing, sometimes it's all around. By that time you're in a hospital somewhere. But you read about these people who seem to be living normal lives. All of a sudden something happens that triggers that little area and they kill
neighbors. So they do some crazy thing or act differently.
Psychosis is a
is a male.
It's a miss.
It's seeing reality. Wrong is what it is. Now they say that alcohol, you know, alcoholism is the second greatest cause of insanity, but not that kind of insanity. Alcoholic insanity is something entirely different. Alcoholic insanity is a physical condition. Almost everywhere in this room has been drunk, sometimes a few times. I know how it is. Sometimes you wake up in the morning at that fire burning and need something to put it out
wet cold. And the reason is because alcohol may be the only substance I know of that takes that scripture body of moisture. It dries out your body little as it dries,
dries up the cells in your body. Many of them die. And when you add fluid to your body, the cells revive. There's only two organs where cells die and don't revive. That's your brain and your liver. And that's why you get liver problems that stick out together, malnutrition and brain problems. I have millions and millions of brain cells. You can kill a lot of go for a long time, but eventually you kill enough of them
and you get a dried out brain
or at least a portion of it's funny in a, we call it a wet brain, but I'm sure most of you have never seen a real wet brain or very few. I see them all the time and they're terrible. They're not acting crazy in meetings and talking silly. There are people sitting on a bed and people come and change their diapers three times a day and feed them and put them to bed and get them up and change their diapers and feed them. They can never get better. They sit like that sometimes for 40 years. Their body's healthy, just their brain is gone.
Families come out once a while, see if Dad knows him. You know the hell they are. So they cry and go home with them. That's alcoholic insanity. Neurosis is when your brain can't stand the pressure and alters your perceptual reality. Now here's the funny little thing. Alcoholics almost never, almost never become psychotic. You'd think they'd be the number one, would you? But they don't. You know why not?
Because when it gets bad enough long enough,
they will drink alcohol and change their perception of reality. They can induce, in a sense, temporary psychosis.
They can literally change their relationship. And I'm sure every drunk in this room knows has done it sometimes and many, many times. Some doctors feel that sometimes Alcoholics get to a point where they must drink to preserve their sanity.
And so when I have to come to believe I didn't know what sanity was, the only but I thought sanity was I had a bed next to mine in a Texas nut house who guys laughing all the time. I thought he was saying I don't know today Fred, I'm fine
and suddenly realized he's never going to get out of there and he stops laughing. That is not sanity. That's goofiness.
Somehow I have to come to believe that there's a power here. What can it be? I don't know what you'd be my sponsor
doorknob, something but I don't understand yet will enable me to live in the world without having to induce temporary psychosis to stand. It will allow me to live in reality without getting ever get so bad I have to drink to standard. And I can accept that premise of the second step because it made sense. It seemed to be logical. Came to believe that a power grid of myself would restore me to sanity. And for me, sanity is sustained reality.
But then they want you to turn your life in care of the gods. Understandable.
You're not getting around that one. I had to put that one aside for a while and I went long. I stayed sober for a while. Linda there was about six months over. I had a little bad luck. I got fired as a dishwasher.
It wasn't my fault. It seemed to me that the busboys were bringing in more dishes than the waitresses were taken out,
and I thought they were getting dishes in other restaurants to humiliate me.
So I didn't do a lot of I wasn't feeling well anyway. I got fired tonight. That day I decided to kill myself. If I can't hold a job at six months, I'm gone. I'll never see my children again. I'll never see anything in the world. What's the sense? What's the sense of living? Now? Let's go back and live that damn abandoned car. You said we'll have rent money. What am I going to do? So I decided to. Well, I just seen at the Aid Club on the Late Show television. We used to watch that
a movie called A Star Is Born. At the end of that, this drunken guy walks into the ocean.
Nobody feels sorry later. As for me, it doesn't hurt and I'll give it a shot.
I don't know exactly know how to get to the ocean where I was, but I walked back to La Cienega over Wilshire, walked West and walked and walked and walked and walked and I couldn't find the ocean. I finally stopped and guesses. Where's the ocean, pal?
So you're just western Beverly Hills. You have to walk past the veterans hospital in another 5 miles. Not that we'll screw that. Yeah, I don't mind dying. I'm going to walk myself to you,
but I felt so bad. I called up my sponsor. And I hate to call him because I'd have to tell him I got fired as a dishwasher. And he, he, he was always disappointed I lost a job. Very loudly disappointed. I called my head,
why don't you work it? I said, look, Bob, let me explain something to you. You know, you know, I've lost my family and I've lost my career. I understand that, Mom. I don't need anything. But there's something I don't think you understand, Bob, when you're not around a in the club and other places, people treat me differently.
They they don't call on me much. It means they call me once and ever call on me again. They old timers warned their newcomers to stay away from me. People laugh at me and take jokes about me. You know about I just
in my judgment, Bob, A can't make, I doesn't work. What am I going to do?
Why don't you write your damn inventory? And he just told me that a week before and I explained to him, I've taken my inventory with psychiatrists, train people. Why would I take with an out of work actor? What's he going to do? Say caught? Let's do that again. You know, it's nonsense.
I didn't want to hurt his feelings. I said, Bob
in my judge, I know you mean well, but in my judgment, going over all the pain and agony I've known can't make me feel better in my country. I need something more and he kindly
counsel me in your judgment. Who cares about your judgment? You're back living in an abandoned car for Christ's sake. If I wanted your judgement, I put my head in the back window and ask you for it,
he said. You're a loser. You're a loser.
He really got me. So cross. I came out of that phone booth just about it turned right. I'd have been in that ocean in three steps. I'd have been gone, but I turned left. What? Back to the a club in Wilshire. Solomon here is on paper on the right line in the jury. They gave me a pad of paper and I wrote God. I wrote stuff I never told. A soul would never tell a psychiatrist that stuff.
Somebody asked me what time to tell your psychiatrist these things,
and we're paying that kind of money. You can't risk rejection. That's why you don't tell a psychiatrist. I'd want some little wussy to say to me you did what, Sir? Get out of my office,
but first wash off that chair.
And I wrote, I just wrote, I put down stuff. Just
I vomited on the page
in words. I got done and I felt better. And I guess that proved to him it didn't work. That cheered me up a little and I shoved around the scene of that car and I went about my business, felt a little better. And a couple days later he came by the club. Well, get your inventory. We'll take your inventory.
I don't think I'm really ready for that step yet. I I got to kind of work myself into it and get a, he said shut up and get it in the car. So we get in the car. He drove me from Santa Monica to Oxnard, 40 miles
and give me a flashlight and I read this hideous thing.
I thought, God, he's going to make me get out from walk 40 miles back from Oxnard.
I probably got all done. I just, it was worse than I remembered and that's all. Are you done now?
And you know where he is? That's the best thing you've done since you got sober, kid. And I said thought it was.
I've taken that trip over 200 times since then, only I'm on the driver's side. There's some other puke over there, their little flashlight, so I was the same.
Let me let me explain this part before I read it.
But it's far as I'm concerned, inventories could inventories are all the same. They all have the same elements, a lot of deep seated
guilt and resentment
and fear and spiritual loneliness and it really is amazing. In one week a few years ago, I heard the daughter, one of the most famous men in the 20th century of your inventory. A week later, a guy who was born under a bridge in Juarez, Mexico, never even knew his father was. And the renovator's were just about the same. I mean, their specifics were different. She lived in a penthouse and he just out of the Washington State Penitentiary, but the same. It's just amazing.
I have. I've come to look back and I've worked with a lot of people over the years
and I think the inventory, as we almost know, is a very, very valuable step.
I've come to look back and I've worked with a lot of people over the years and I think the inventory, as we almost know, is a very, very valuable step. But I think that
I have will come to believe that the hardest part about inventory is sitting down and putting the pencil on the paper and deciding what is appropriate to put down. Some people put down 150 pages of biography, some people put down half a page. It's just
and many years ago I did something. I'm not suggesting anyone here do it for the people I sponsored to get them going on this. Now we have a thing in the book that talks about resentments and how it which is very good. But I think that at that stage and the Oxford Movement where Bill was the time, that seemed to be the answer. But
and the people I've known need something else. And I I've had seven questions I give people to to write an inventory with. And the first one is in looking back over your life, what memories are still painful, are still guilty, are still dirty?
2IN what way today do you consider yourself inadequate as a person? Three, who do you resent and why? Be a specific and nasty as necessary.
For what do you conceive to be your defects of character as you see them today?
Five, What is the nature of the ongoing problems you have with people close to you having human relations? What seems to always happen? We have these things that blow up. Six In what way do you see that a A can be? How do you believe that a A can help you in any of these problems? And so in what way do you think A can start to begin to change things? And I just put those two on the ending of a little positive spin on the end.
But a lot of people pick the inventory that way. I'm not. I think any way you take an inventory is fine, but I think for most people
it's and as a set of specific questions seem to help but they can answer it better.
But it's really good, very simple, 4th and 5th step.
And the fifth step, should you know, in many parts of the world, and I don't know why it is some parts, the United States,
you take your inventory, you take your 4th, you take your 5th step, you go find a clergyman and take with a minister or a priest. There are some priests who specialize in some clergymen. But Minneapolis have gathered to specializes listening to four steps. And in our part of the country, which is Los Angeles, that's entirely different. There you always take your inventory with your sponsor because you're asking him to guide your life and then you want to know about you. Isn't that just silly, is it? Well, what if he's a blabbermouth and tells Problem tells these things.
It isn't that interesting.
You know, I,
I mentioned this last year, but in Pasadena, I'll tell you a guy that should be worried. I watched my daughter put on the aisle and marry a guy I sponsored. I was in favor of, but I didn't ask me. But
if you all know the absolute definition of mixed emotions, it's washing your darling daughter. Marry someone whose 5th step you've heard.
You can't really say anything, but you can give little warnings. Let me know if he ever brings a sheep home, honey,
I
but that is a great you know, you stop thinking about it. Psychoanalysis, psychiatric health usually would take you up to Step 5. If if they're doing steps, then after that it's kind of a lot of conversation. But the great thing about a is that's what a begins to kick in. Now you, you stay so sober a while
to be taking the first three steps are staying sober. Well, the reason I mentioned that inventory is because I look back, the day I took that inventory is the day I took the third step because I believe the third step means what it says. You, you, you're not making it. You have problem drinking problem sober. There's a power here that will help change it. Now you got to do what they say. That's just that simple. You got to follow what they say.
You got to surrender your judgment.
That's the hardest surrender in the world. I know for people like me, I'll surrender my money or my clothes, but not my judgment because I know more about me than anybody else does. And I have to come to believe that isn't necessarily true.
So you take a 4th through 5th step and I think that's where the you really turn your will in your life over the care of God. If you continue to do it, then there's a 6th step. I guess sometimes question, how do you really do the 6th step? I've been working on it for weeks and I don't understand that the 6th step is really quite simple. Became willing.
We're entirely Ridge at subset. We're entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character. All that means I don't know anybody who doesn't want to stop hurting. That's all you're saying to have God removed. Become willing to have God remove these defects of character
and So what? What are the defects of courage? The defects church are the things you found out in your 4th and 5th step. And I know that I tell people as I did, my sponsor told me, you go home and kneel down tonight and you pray to God to be help. You become willing to get rid of the things that are in a pattern eating you up because that's what you find out. I think in the 4th, 5th step, your life's a series of patterns doing the same things, screwing up, not allowing yourself to succeed, eventually screwing up always hidden problems of human beings
To become willing to have God remove these defects of characters is an easy step and the 7th step follows it. There's a 7th step further pro in the book to help you along, but it really all means a simple, very simple
humbly asked him to remove our shortcomings. You know, that's The funny thing about people who like to make a a complex you go to meetings sometimes I've heard when I was new debates and meetings, what the difference between shortcomings and defects of character. And of course Bill wrote later that he just want to be redundant in two consecutive senses. They mean exactly the same. But I'm going to ask God to remove these defects of character. I don't know how he's going to do it. I don't see how he can do it. And I you're not going to sip in your knees and wait for a lightning bolt to come down the window and
you're not, but you have to become willing to do that. Then the 8th step made a list of all persons who had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.
And again, as as Adam said, pass in passing. It's a matter of putting down a list of people you have harmed even though they have harmed you worse than you have harmed them. That's not the point. You put down a list of persons you had harmed and how they harmed you,
and I've gone over that with a lot of people. Then you make amends,
and that's a tough step because sometimes the steps, the men's you need to make the most are the ones that are the most difficult. I was thinking about that. Adam was talking tonight. I hated my father because he left my mother and I fell to the late 1930s and married somebody else eventually. And my mother and I, she married someone. I didn't like it. I didn't like my wife, my mother-in-law, my stepmother and I grew up and I I
had such a great love for my father and I was a kid.
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and I hadn't talked to him 10 years when I took that inventory
and he said the same thing to me. I responsible for the same school he said you're number one in, but you're never one to madness to make it to your father.
I'm going to make a man to him. He screwed up my life. That may be kid, but you were a bad son. That's all I care about. I want you to write him a letter of amends.
Uh-huh. Then he said something that I've said to everybody since that too, and you better say it.
I want to see it before you send it.
I wrote a letter for men's season. No, no, not an indictment. A lot of amends. I had to write that three or four times. The old fool finally accepted it and I felt ashamed to even send it to him so that he and my stepmother would laugh
because it might got a letter back to my dad or nose. I'm glad to hear you're doing all right son. I haven't learned it for so long. I hope you're all right and I have the best you all right and your new wife and your new child and all that crap. Screw you. And he said now it's birthday coming up. He asked me his birthday was in March 20th. Sent his birth
and Christmas and cards and I just did this and my dad would send me little letters and tell me what's going on. I didn't have to tell him. I didn't even read them. Just I don't care what's going on. I'm doing this on among other men's I was making when I was about five years sober. I'd been working hard. I finally had some front teeth
as advertising director for Medical Corporation.
I smiled a lot
in case of your buddies new here in this lost teeth, let me give you some hope. Once you once you become spiritually pure, they grow back.
You don't know. What do you know, dummy?
But my mother and father both lived in a town called Eau Claire, WI. My mother lived one part of town, my dad lived another part of town. And I was going up to Minneapolis to give a talk at this medical corporate convention. And he said, I want you to. I'm going to see my mother. And he said, I want you to,
he says, for you. So I want you still, woman, see your father too. I don't want to go see my father. My stepmother will be there. Now. Punch her in the nose. He said no, you make arrangements to see her. So I don't know if I remember that date, winter time, I left my mother's house. I just hated to go over there. Just that tall overpowering guy and his damn vicious wife.
I rang the doorbell and the door answered. Here's a short little Gray haired guy. He shrunk them out and I dad, I've just come say hello. He said come on, I don't want to come. He said no, I understand. I know your feelings,
Val. My wife, I sent her downtown. Do some shopping. Come on, let me step a cup of coffee, OK? Edwin sat down. All the nice things my mother didn't have. It's very nice, Dad. I didn't say anything like that was just another indictment. Hope you're doing well, Dad. Nice to see you. I left
and
about six months later I was coming across doing something up in the Midwest. I went to see my mother again. I went saw him again. I did the same thing, and that was the end of it. I've made all the amends I can make now. To hell with him
last five years over my wife and my children in Dallas heard the crinkle of green and wallet in my wallet leaped out of their post office box rocked by side. So all of a sudden I'd gone from being a five year sober new guy doing well a swinging bachelor at La. Now my family was back, which was great because I love my children. And but it did cut into my accident, which I've been, you know, several years. I've been able to say, you know,
I've lost my family and I'm alone now
over at 922 Gardner St.
and people would say, oh, it must be sad for you without your family. Yes, it is. But
I'm soldiering on.
Now they're back and all of a sudden, God,
four kids, three dogs, 2 cats, a wife I can't get. I didn't get in the bathroom for three days at one time, I don't think, just noise and cats going and dogs and children and that go to aid desperately try to find help when it's a while. You're happy at last, aren't you?
About a month or two months after I got a call from my father. He says son Val, his young wife, died suddenly yesterday, last night, a heart attack. And I don't really. I would really appreciate if you come up here and spend a few days with me, get through this funeral. I've often thought, you know,
I very likely I might have said, Gee, dad, I'm sorry you're lonely. That's the way mother and I were too for a lot of years. Goodbye. But right then as he was talking, a dog chased a cat through my legs and the cat went up there
curtain and my kids were yammering and yelling. I just, I'll be right up Dad.
I went to Eau Claire, WI. I went through the I wasn't warming, but it didn't have the funeral. Before I catch the plane the next morning, I said, I thought I'm just going to once and for all give this to me. I said, Dad,
why did you? Why did you desert mother and I? He said, desert mother in you. What a strange question. Don't you think I loved you? I don't know, Dad, he said, don't you remember the 1930s? I was a school teacher making $80.00 a month and I worked every night so you could have a bicycle, worked in different jobs. I tried to give you everything I could. We didn't have much, but I gave you and your mother and your mother and I grew apart. She gets we decided to separate. This kind of painful for me, but we decided to separate. I thought you knew that
and I then I met this woman and she seemed to be kindly and we married
and I always tried to be loving towards you. And then you went off early in the war, ran away from home and got Miss Service, went off to the South Pacific and came back. By that time you were drinking a lot of bit, not a lot, but more than you should have, I think. And you went to college. I'm so proud of what you did in college and you won some awards for the college. You won a national championship and kept married to this lovely girl. And you went out in the world and I try to help you and help. And you always treated me coldly. You didn't want me to see your your children.
It broke my heart a lot of times. I said, can I come over? And no, we're busy now. Because I just didn't listen. And he gave me an entirely different perception of the same series of facts. I couldn't believe it.
It's like that movie Rashomon where they have six different people seeing a robbery and all look different.
And I, I left there that day and I, I no longer hated my father until that. And I began to understand it. And after the next few years, I think he got, I got closer than most fathers and sons ever get because I really try to be good. And but he got old and he came out and lived with us in California for a while. Then he wanted like an old elephant come back to burial ground. He wanted to go back to Wisconsin, die with the Norwegians. And he went back there and he's used dying. I was holding his hand and he smiled and I smiled.
I visited his grave, remember so often now. But the point I'm trying to make is this.
If I had followed what I knew to be right
tonight, if you come up to me and ask me about my father, I'd say my father. To hell with my father.
He abused our family. He's dead now. I hope he's in hell. I hope they're poking him with sharp knives. I just wish that son of a bitch is not a pain,
but as a result of doing things I didn't want to do and making amends that crap. He asked me about my father. Did I say my father and I really unfortunately were
pulled apart for a lot of years but thank God we got close and he's dead now. I hope he's in Valhalla, the Norwegian heaven. I was having a good time. I hope he's saving a seat right next to him and I get there. We'll drink some non alcoholic something
Meade, but nothing had changed. Nothing had changed in the history of the world except my perception change, which is the purpose of Alcoholics Anonymous, to change your perception of things. And it's it's so hard to realize that because the perception you're coming out of indicates that's the wrong action. That's why it's so essential, I think, that you have to have some place to turn it over to.
And people all say, well, the nine first nine steps are pretty much clearing up and then you get into is also in most of, you know, some of you new people may not. In the ninth step is where the 12 promises appear. He says if you are thorough about this stage of development, if you are thorough about your amends, the promises start to happen. That's one of the great reasons I thought that book was inspired, because Bill Wilson wrote a series of promises that hadn't happened to him yet.
Like one of these dime store get welled where they write all kinds of promises they never work out.
But these do come true. Old timers to tell you that. But since we're human beings, they don't stay true because we screw up. Remember when my parents were right
first came out, I called it my sponsor. Hi Bob. I got
a lot of things financially. I don't know if I can handle it. They said financial insecurity will leave me. I I'm financially insecure Bob.
Now that is what it says at all. Just fear of financial insecurity. Olympia shape up
well.
He died soon thereafter.
I got another sponsor. He was more loving.
But the the 10th step is, you know, I think it means what it says. I think the 10th step means what it says. It means we continue to dig Gale inventory doesn't mean that I sit right. I don't understand. I'm not against it, but I do not understand people who write continue to write because that's such self obsessive thing for people like me. I'm backing myself. The whole purpose of a is to get out of self and to continue to write. How am I feeling today? I better find out.
We do a lot of that in Lai Guess,
but the purpose is to examine my life. As one of our philosophers say, the unexamined life is not worth living. But not to be focused on me because I got to get off of me. I've never had any. I never needed any help in looking at me. I'm using help to get off me
and when I'm wrong, promptly admit it. And when you're new, that's difficult,
but when you're an old timer, that's difficult.
You'd think that you would just automatically do it, and sometimes you do, but sometimes you don't. I
because it's a very difficult proposition. I mean because I at the moment I say or do something usually I think I'm right. I think about I'm not, but it's and I got an image to maintain a person who's not doing childish. So what I'm doing is not childish. I can't you know, it really is. It's a simple thing to examine, continue to examine myself and do it to my wrong promptly admitted. Once you say I'm sorry, there's not much going to be said. You can talk all afternoon and make excuses when you say I'm sorry. So
sometimes you have to say you're sorry,
but you have to draw a fine line. At least I do. I'm not sorry for the position I took, I'm just sorry the way I said it.
I'm not sorry for saying a A really does work, but I'm sorry for saying what the Hell's wrong with you.
So I have to, Sam, I'm sorry I flew off the handle when I talked to you. I mean, there's all sorts of little dumb little things you have to do to get right with yourself. The 11th step is all seemed very interesting to me to stop through prayer and meditation to improve my conscious contact with God's understanding. And somewhere along the line, I had to remember somewhere
in my first or second year, I suddenly after listening to people,
hi, my, my sponsor, I came to believe in a a, to work for people. And eventually I came to believe in God. And later on I was trying to explain to people I had such an antipathy towards that whole concept. How could I believe in God? And the belief I came to believe in
is, it was a very rudimentary one, but because of my own phoniness, I had to, you know, kind of phoniest. I had to believe in something that made sense. I just couldn't believe in some, you know, they talk about God's grace keeps us sober. Well, how about all the people that aren't sober first? God's grace for them
is God. Does he go through a means that you can stay sober? You 2 will slip, you can't stay. You know, if that's true, I can't stay here. I'm not going to make them cut, you know.
And I heard these old guys like Chuck Chamberlain, who became my second sponsor, another great a speakers talk about the love of God, that God loves you, though I don't love me. But I finally came to understand they're trying to say that God loves everybody and he loves them all the same. Not one more than the other. He loves them all the same, but someone don't do very well. And the concept I could pick up from that because at that time I was working in television. I was just over that medical corporation,
but God
I had to take. I had an image of God,
God's grace, whatever it is, as a kind of a television, big televisions station, and he's sending out a picture, a picture of Peace of Mind or grace or whatever you want to call it. And he said that to everybody the same. Just like when they have the World Cup all over the world, people look at the television set. World Cup doesn't know who's got the sets on, but they're sending a picture out there. And some of the steps are old and some of them don't work very well and some of them don't even get turned on because I know there's pictures can't fly through
year,
but the pictures out there
and now in my home, I'm a great. I used to be a sports writer. I still am a great fan of sports and I have a great football fan. In the fall we have a lot of football games. I have two sets, one next to each other in my dance,
you know, really great.
That had a lot of grandchildren. They're a mixed blessing at best.
I know of a great grandson that makes me feel so old I can barely walk. But
used to be I'd be watching a game and I'd go to John or something. And these kids, John and Joe,
you think it's fun to change all the dials on it, these old TV sets. And I'd come back, there'd be
blue people, and
it didn't take me long to understand. If I turn the knobs right, the picture gets clear again, and I don't know what a vertical hole does. I have no idea what those electrons are doing in there, doing something terrible, I suppose. I don't care what they're doing. I just turned that vertical hold and the picture stopped
and the horizontal hole gets him straight and the tent gets him from blue to white again or yellow or whatever might be and I don't really care. I get out of here, you kids
and I had to come to believe in a sense
that's what God's grace was coming down as. Now I don't have a TV set with knobs that say vertical hold and horizontal hold and try to find something else. I had to complete it. You're not a vertical hole, but there's a prayer. There's a prayer knob. I don't know that my prayers ever got got answered. I've never known any prayer I ever said out of the room. I said I've never had any evidence. But when I turn that knob, the picture gets a little clearer.
When I try to be of help to somebody, even I think when it's dumb, that picture gets a lot of clear. When I sit in meetings, the picture gets a little clearer.
When I try to alter my behavior, the picture gets a little clearer.
And sometimes they get very clear pictures. It just doesn't just shivered on my spine. And if you don't like God's grace, you'd call it Peace of Mind or serenity, whatever you want. Unfortunately, as a human being, my pickup truck, my TV set seems to be in the back of a pickup truck. Every time I just get a picture, it goes. And my life is just a series of oh Jesus, I sure know what the picture of her stay here. Yes, I'll come over.
Well, I could accept that concept and I could pray earnestly to that God. And over the years I've become a little more deeper personal God, I suppose, like the 11th of South of prayer and meditation improve my conscious contact with God and I come to believe. I pray to God earnestly every day. Now have her
40 some years, but I know this that I have to seek to prove that concept of my will. But the most telling part of that step to me and it has been one of the few steps I've ever tried to do perfectly, praying only for knowledge of his will for me and the strength to carry it out because I have you know that dickering with God. If you do this, Get Me Out of this, I'll do this. And
I am such a innately I'm a hustler or bad guy or something, I suppose. And for the first time I prayed. Honestly, I've never tried to pray for anything. I've been trying to pray for a job, a car, a woman, a nothing. I pray for knowledge of God's will for me and the strength to carry it out.
And I guess I must have got some of that strength. My life has improved, but I got to be very careful. That is such AI hear people say I'm going to really pray. I get that job. I think if God, you know, it may not be what's right for you, pal. Maybe you'll get it. Maybe you'll be sorry. So I I have come to believe that praying for a knowledge of God's will for me is enough for hustlers like me. If I do anything more than that, I'm crossing the line.
So I get that last step having having had a spiritual experience.
It's, you know, that's the interesting thing. Most of us know Bill Wilson had the spiritual experience,
and three years later he wrote the big book and he presented it and got printed. And there's only one word been changed in the 12 steps from the first printing to now
in the 1939 that Big Red Book, it said having had a spiritual experience as the result of these steps.
And the people came to said, Gee Bill, that's not right. You're the only one had a spiritual experience and you never result of these steps. You had it before you were drunk in Towns Hospital.
How do you figure that out? Doctor Young said. We have to have a spiritual experience.
I've never had any spiritual experience. You're the only one is. I mean, we're all going to get drunk. Where the hell does me? And they pondered that for a while because firstly, the book didn't sell very fast and then out of time to ponder it.
And I think that they finally came upon, I believe, for the people I know that were around at that time and shortly thereafter, they finally came to the conclusion by looking around people. Maybe Doctor Young was right. Maybe you need a spiritual experience, but not you couldn't get one the way Bill got because they were so rare. Doctor Young had never seen one. He only read about it.
The miracle of Alcoholics Anonymous is that in some way that nobody can explain, really, it's still a mystery
that the 12 steps
Adam bring about an incremental spiritual experience.
Not the way Bill Wilson got his whoa, but the way we get ours.
Make amends to that bitch. Are you crazy?
And little by little slowly altered the perception of reality.
And so the next printing of the book, they change it to having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps has been that way ever since. That's what really makes a such remarkable thing. Now they want to go back in that book all the time, say, well, he stole this part from here. And some of that's from the Oxford moon. Who cares? The way it's laid out now is the first thing that's ever worked for Alcoholics in the history of mankind. Who cares? It works fine for me,
but having had a spiritual experience is really steps. We try to practice these principles in all our fairs and people think what does that mean? I mean, if honest and pure, you have to absolute honesty, absolute purity, absolute unselfishness, you know, old 4 concept. And I don't think it means that. I think that one of the reasons that I think Bill Wilson avoided those type of things in the 12 Steps and in our book is because he realized people like us are kind of
perfectionist.
I want things to be right and if they're not screwed, I don't want. You know, Yale University had a big study of Alcoholics in the 1950s. They really did a massive study, the only one they had Alcoholics of all sorts of backgrounds and histories and then they compared them against non Alcoholics. They even got down to things like giving the known Alcoholics A2 drinks and the no non alcoholic 2 drinks and try to measure their reactions.
Wouldn't be fun to be part of that test, you know?
That's all for today. No, it isn't Goddess
but of all the people they examined they had a big report this off but
it has been reset that the only two they had couldn't find any background they had two things they found neither one they could understand 1 the Alcoholics all marked in the top 10 percentile in sociological, sociological or psychological profiling of perfectionism and secondly, the Alcoholics seem to have.